100% agree. Sadly most church meetings seem a waste of time. I'm hearing: ongoing reformation, discipleship & accountability - one with another. And Tom what a blessing that you speak of NOT tearing down people and systems but rather being the bearers of something better, based on unfolding (revealed, discovered, sought for) scriptural truths. OK got it, not condemning, but to edify! I'll go on to Tom's # 6.
Tom, God is using you in HIS TIME! What a blessing covid was to bring such clarity to us now and you are part of this. It is like HE is bringing us together in A FRESH and RIGHT way….. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
One of the reasons why the current churches have gone wrong is mixing the activities of the old testament with those of the new testament hence they come up with a blend of activities.
Some people need the prayers/friendsjip of Christians - it brings them strength and courage. But not churches are alike nor do all churches teach Biblical truth. Certainly, there are legitimate complaints about some church services. I have left churches when they became nightclubs.By that I mean; when I was in my early twenty’s I was born again and the first thing I said was Hallelujah, I don’t have to go to night clubs anymore!!! I always hated them - they are places of desperation and sin ;where men are trying to pick up women. So, fast track , to today, I walk into a non-denominational church that has come into town and what do I see : there are strobe lights, there is rock music with people up shaking their booty, there are smoke pots, Dim lights, silly, non-reverential songs. my family and myself wanted no part of this confused church. It was like going back to my pre-born again Friday nights, which I hated back then. WHY, would anyone think this is pleasing to God? This is sooo many of today’s churches, saying they are CHRISTIAN but in reality, are only quasi-Christian in my opinion.
It's challenging to show people that Jesus's way is better when what we offer them is no different from what they can find in the world. What happens in the assembly should appeal to the inner man, not our fleshly senses.
I see a like for the video, maybe that one is yours. Thank you. I am persuaded that Tom's research and conclusions are exactly correct. In fact, I had reached some of the same conclusions years ago and I was gratified that his extensive research validated my own conclusions. Let's pray his research is widely disseminated.
I am with you- I have felt for years the church building scenario doesn’t fit. For one thing it is a burden to people financially to have to pay a mortgage for a building that is rarely used.
Yes ... and finally fighting over the property ... filing court cases against each other ... it's all happening in India .... for the last 15 years the Church gathers in our home ...
Hey, brother Lawrence. Thank you for your fantastic interview with Tom. A have a question: did you find his dissertation online for free or did you have to pay for it? If it is free, where can I find it?
I wasn't able to find it online. I contacted Tom through his website asking for a copy and he sent it to me. If you contact him I bet he'll send you a copy. www.tomwadsworth.com/contact
Actually (6:02) the purpose is to give people "head knowledge" so they can overcome objections when out trying to persuade people to become Christians ... or at least church members. Much of my church experience was academic pursuit, and I knew a lot about the Bible. I could play Bible trivia games and prevail. But there was little character development.
Jesus gave to the Apostles the Authority to preach & teach the truth. Does Authority, therefore, matter to be able to preach & teach the truth, and to ensure that it continues that the preaching and teaching is done correctly should not that Authority be passed on by those who had/have the Authority to preach and teach the truth or can anyone preach & teach, whatever they like without that Authority??? Would anyone allow someone to teach their children if that person has no authority to teach children??? Why is this so difficult to understand.
Salvation is not a one time prayer. It is Salvationship Baptism is not a ritual, it is a covenant. Holy Spirit is a revelationship, He reveals Jesus (truth) to us. We are not going to the Heaven our Father resides in. We will meet Jesus in the air and come back to earth. It's all about being in salvationship with Jesus led by Holy Spirit everyday. We should never be born again out of fear. We should be born again out of love and appreciation for Jesus.
100% agree. Sadly most church meetings seem a waste of time. I'm hearing: ongoing reformation, discipleship & accountability - one with another. And Tom what a blessing that you speak of NOT tearing down people and systems but rather being the bearers of something better, based on unfolding (revealed, discovered, sought for) scriptural truths. OK got it, not condemning, but to edify! I'll go on to Tom's # 6.
Tom, God is using you in HIS TIME! What a blessing covid was to bring such clarity to us now and you are part of this. It is like HE is bringing us together in A FRESH and RIGHT way….. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
One of the reasons why the current churches have gone wrong is mixing the activities of the old testament with those of the new testament hence they come up with a blend of activities.
Some people need the prayers/friendsjip of Christians - it brings them strength and courage. But not churches are alike nor do all churches teach Biblical truth. Certainly, there are legitimate complaints about some church services. I have left churches when they became nightclubs.By that I mean; when I was in my early twenty’s I was born again and the first thing I said was Hallelujah, I don’t have to go to night clubs anymore!!! I always hated them - they are places of desperation and sin ;where men are trying to pick up women. So, fast track , to today, I walk into a non-denominational church that has come into town and what do I see : there are strobe lights, there is rock music with people up shaking their booty, there are smoke pots,
Dim lights, silly, non-reverential songs. my family and myself wanted no part of this confused church. It was like going back to my pre-born again Friday nights, which I hated back then. WHY, would anyone think this is pleasing to God? This is sooo many of today’s churches, saying they are CHRISTIAN but in reality, are only quasi-Christian in my opinion.
It's challenging to show people that Jesus's way is better when what we offer them is no different from what they can find in the world. What happens in the assembly should appeal to the inner man, not our fleshly senses.
The religious system has deceptively redefined almost every important biblical word in the bible. Thank you for your work.
I clicked the thumbs up button and it still remained at zero. Just FYI. I don’t go to a church because it troubles my soul. I’m with Tom 100%.
I see a like for the video, maybe that one is yours. Thank you.
I am persuaded that Tom's research and conclusions are exactly correct. In fact, I had reached some of the same conclusions years ago and I was gratified that his extensive research validated my own conclusions. Let's pray his research is widely disseminated.
I am with you- I have felt for years the church building scenario doesn’t fit. For one thing it is a burden to people financially to have to pay a mortgage for a building that is rarely used.
Yes ... and finally fighting over the property ... filing court cases against each other ... it's all happening in India .... for the last 15 years the Church gathers in our home ...
Hey, brother Lawrence. Thank you for your fantastic interview with Tom. A have a question: did you find his dissertation online for free or did you have to pay for it? If it is free, where can I find it?
I wasn't able to find it online. I contacted Tom through his website asking for a copy and he sent it to me. If you contact him I bet he'll send you a copy.
www.tomwadsworth.com/contact
Actually (6:02) the purpose is to give people "head knowledge" so they can overcome objections when out trying to persuade people to become Christians ... or at least church members. Much of my church experience was academic pursuit, and I knew a lot about the Bible. I could play Bible trivia games and prevail. But there was little character development.
Jesus gave to the Apostles the Authority to preach & teach the truth. Does Authority, therefore, matter to be able to preach & teach the truth, and to ensure that it continues that the preaching and teaching is done correctly should not that Authority be passed on by those who had/have the Authority to preach and teach the truth or can anyone preach & teach, whatever they like without that Authority??? Would anyone allow someone to teach their children if that person has no authority to teach children??? Why is this so difficult to understand.
Salvation is not a one time prayer. It is Salvationship
Baptism is not a ritual, it is a covenant.
Holy Spirit is a revelationship, He reveals Jesus (truth) to us.
We are not going to the Heaven our Father resides in. We will meet Jesus in the air and come back to earth.
It's all about being in salvationship with Jesus led by Holy Spirit everyday.
We should never be born again out of fear. We should be born again out of love and appreciation for Jesus.