His strategy on joint protecting training to stay fit in old age resonates very much with me. And I appreciate his sceptic, analytical approach to health beliefs.
Thankyou thankyou thankyou It was beautiful to get peter know a bit more and obviously I expanded my goals on health and fitness Thankyou thankyou thankyou
Tim is a great connector of people. How many other people could/would dare to take the piss out of something Peter Attia said? What a great skill to develop.
This made me laugh so much....worth listening...Beautiful conversation between 2 great men. I learned a lot ... I found out new things... I solidified some already know stuff however not fully understood... Keep talking guys and keep sharing! Best of health to you and your families ❤
The only function of anger is to harm. And the greatest harm is to those that create and maintain it. It is the greatest enemy, except for the ignorance, that it is our enemy. Contemplating the faults of anger is the beginning of opposing it. Meditation on the faults is stronger.
I love it. Competition is the driving force for just about everything I do. The egg boxing is a hilarious way to compete. Egg boxing from a teen to adulthood might be a little obsessive to some degree; nevertheless it just may be a mechanism for a type of therapy that translates to other activities for performance. Is the archery sights or no sights? Recurve or compound bow? I found it most challenging hunting deer with a no sight with a recurve bow. It takes more strength to hold a bow strength steady, especially if your draw length is long and you are drawing a 50# recurve. In my day there was two options: single pulley and four pulley. I'm not sure what advances there are in more modern bows. And trigger pull is a consistent mechanism for rifle or archery for accuracy. I learned to master the trigger surprise training in the Marine Corp. I have an analogy for anger that relates to time to think. I played football at every level accept the NFL level, though I competed against many NFL caliber talent. What I noticed, as I progressed through each level of competition, the speed of the game increased to what seemed to be exponential. What is interesting the games slowed very quickly in a matter of days, not weeks. The lower levels appeared to be remarkably slow after this experience. Of course there's a component of talent that gave me the ability to respond using my God given speed and mass to quickly compensate; however even the lesser talent could see the game slow, but they were unable to respond as fast as the gifted. I'm thinking the same could be true if we had purposeful training to respond to the speed of uncontrolled events through focused repetition. Repetition king in sporting events.
MCT coffee in morning won't activate MTOR? found out that they both have protein, surely this will break the fast minutely, so to truly fast, just water?
Love the format, laughed a lot, a lot of useful and useless shit. I learned a a little about myself in that I follow Peter and was not clear on his relationship with his chickens and was previously on the side of bobcat, now I understand a little more about both of us
Regarding the use of (2) Slow-Mag in the morning/evening, and (2) Mag L-Threonate (Magtein or Jarrow's Magmind) at night.. Peter tweeted that even though it's not readily absorbed, he uses Mag-Ox for bowel function? Regarding a visual on some of the exercises, he demonstrates a little bit here: instagram.com/zerofasting/tv/B1h0DRqg-d0/
1. One interesting thing I noted. I normally sleep very well and rarely not get a great night of 8-9 hours of sleep. But if I take Zinc before bed, I have insomnia and poor sleep. Weird right? 2. I'm not convinced about different forms of Mg. I mean, why is the standard advice to take Mg Threonate at night? I'm trying to be super sharp in the AM when I study different languages and do my day job at the hospital. So I tend to take Mg Threonate in the AM on weekends, and a cheaper Mg in the evening.
Loved the format, especially for a repeat appearance/someone so close to your brand. It was almost unnerving to hear someone repeat nearly the identical neuroticisms surrounding dish duties and rooting for inanimate objects.
Just an idea, Muslims fast 12 hours daily for a month of Ramadan which just started yesterday 4-2-22. Dr. Attia can study them to reveal more clues on fasting and health results.
I have respect for these guys but when I researched the possible side effects of metformin ! I would not take the chance I would be look for natural alternatives...
Love peter... but, impossible to see him as a doctor. ...how do you even get a hold of him...you can't, regular people, I'm fit, but, there is no way I could get an apt with him.. Would love to get a program from him, on all aspects of my health. Again, what is it? 5 years to seechim, x if at all... a little help here....
Three day fasts work well for me followed by five+ days of OMAD carnivore. Much easier than a seven day fast and my ketones stay above 3.0 for the full time after 72 hours. I do this once every month. I fast with lots of MCT C8, Sport salts & exogenous BHBs. They minimize the hunger spikes.
Some great information in between unnecessary chats for a podcast. Still got so much out of it because I just have to listen to what Dt Attia has to say 👍🏽
Ok...we play “egg wars” every Easter with hard boiled eggs.... we do crate the eggs and the winner gets a huge prize👍 never played it with fresh eggs... interesting!
"egg boxing" is a traditional persian/armenian game played during easter it goes back decades. If there is a tournament, there should at least be one of us there to whoop that ass in a game of dzu
You should look into virtue philosophy. The human person can be improved at a deep core level through the continual cultivation of virtue. Aristotle had a lot to say about this. Catholic medieval thinkers developed this understanding from the ancient Greeks and this development continues today. It has many seriously positive ramifications.
Fasting, especially combined with athletic training, is the optimal way to eat and live. Anyone who denies that or is so bothered by that is just scared to fast, or works in the food industry.
So many societal norms that support eating all the time that many people would feel, very unconsciously, that they're breaking the rules. And, the consumption (eg breakfast cereal & other foods, snack foods for daytime & night --taste really good, feel good and are actually addictive). We know that to break that routine & pattern, it's a mental & physical thang... then people's experience allows them to form new 'rules' and beliefs. Fingers' crossed that more people get there sooner vs later!!
This guy fasts wayy too much considering that 3+ day fasts have been shown as unbeneficial for longevity as they cause too much stress and our ancestors likely did not actually fast for these extended periods. Robb Wolf has talked about this. Weird move by Dr. Attia - his routine 7 day fasts cant be good.
I can't speak on when exactly a fast reaches diminishing returns, but I would have no trouble believing that it's likely our ancestors fasted for much longer than 3 days at a time.
I would say you need at least 36 hours to clear garbage out of the bowel. 7 days means you clear all in 48 hours, then fast for 5 days. If he is healthy or take supplements that is fine.
Robb Wolf is also selling food products and another diet plan. Fasting advice is bad for business. 48 hour fasts are nothing, if you’re too scared or too skinny to do them, then you should do them. As long as you replenish your electrolytes with sodium, and monitor how you feel, fasting is the best way to live.
All, see my comment pls. Am desperately trying to get to the bottom of this. Have done plenty more research upon request, but am, for the first time, looking to people in comments for direction or primers
Appreciate your revealing your weaknesses and humanity. It is possibly the most valuable piece I take from this podcast.
His strategy on joint protecting training to stay fit in old age resonates very much with me. And I appreciate his sceptic, analytical approach to health beliefs.
same.
Like racing Motocross, "To finish first, you first must finish"
Thankyou thankyou thankyou
It was beautiful to get peter know a bit more and obviously I expanded my goals on health and fitness
Thankyou thankyou thankyou
Starts 6:25
MVP
the goddamn preface
You the best bro
I love you
Great episode, great format :) I've heard Peter on podcasts a couple times before but none of them cilcked the way this did.
Tim is a great connector of people. How many other people could/would dare to take the piss out of something Peter Attia said? What a great skill to develop.
Tim. Such a fantastic podcast. Thanks from Vienna
This made me laugh so much....worth listening...Beautiful conversation between 2 great men.
I learned a lot ...
I found out new things...
I solidified some already know stuff however not fully understood...
Keep talking guys and keep sharing! Best of health to you and your families ❤
Love it. Please do the follow up and tell us the next 20 things you do!
The spoons game man... This guy is so freaking nuts. Love it
Very much liked the format. Generally, love it when you talk about daily-life stuff with your guests.
Petter Attia became my favourite human being.
Peter had me at "phenotypic response."
The only function of anger is to harm. And the greatest harm is to those that create and maintain it. It is the greatest enemy, except for the ignorance, that it is our enemy. Contemplating the faults of anger is the beginning of opposing it. Meditation on the faults is stronger.
Really enjoyed this podcast with MD!
Loved this interview and enjoyed it thoroughly!
I love it. Competition is the driving force for just about everything I do. The egg boxing is a hilarious way to compete. Egg boxing from a teen to adulthood might be a little obsessive to some degree; nevertheless it just may be a mechanism for a type of therapy that translates to other activities for performance.
Is the archery sights or no sights? Recurve or compound bow? I found it most challenging hunting deer with a no sight with a recurve bow. It takes more strength to hold a bow strength steady, especially if your draw length is long and you are drawing a 50# recurve. In my day there was two options: single pulley and four pulley. I'm not sure what advances there are in more modern bows. And trigger pull is a consistent mechanism for rifle or archery for accuracy. I learned to master the trigger surprise training in the Marine Corp.
I have an analogy for anger that relates to time to think. I played football at every level accept the NFL level, though I competed against many NFL caliber talent. What I noticed, as I progressed through each level of competition, the speed of the game increased to what seemed to be exponential. What is interesting the games slowed very quickly in a matter of days, not weeks. The lower levels appeared to be remarkably slow after this experience. Of course there's a component of talent that gave me the ability to respond using my God given speed and mass to quickly compensate; however even the lesser talent could see the game slow, but they were unable to respond as fast as the gifted. I'm thinking the same could be true if we had purposeful training to respond to the speed of uncontrolled events through focused repetition. Repetition king in sporting events.
A study of monks who fast hard and seasonally would be interesting.
They do IF daily, don't eat until 11am in SE Asia.
@@6789uiop in Thailand, most monks eat twice a day, after 7am, and before 12noon
Really great episode :)
why dont you marry it then
1st. This is going to be a great one!!!
MCT coffee in morning won't activate MTOR? found out that they both have protein, surely this will break the fast minutely, so to truly fast, just water?
Maybe instead of breaking down energy stored in the body, which is the goal of fasting, instead it uses caffeine, consequently ignoring fat.
Love the format, laughed a lot, a lot of useful and useless shit. I learned a a little about myself in that I follow Peter and was not clear on his relationship with his chickens and was previously on the side of bobcat, now I understand a little more about both of us
57:00 anger issues: was it the magnesium that reduced the anger? It did for me.
what about the work of Valter Longo on fasting etc.??? I thought he figured out, how often to fast throughout a year...
Regarding the use of (2) Slow-Mag in the morning/evening, and (2) Mag L-Threonate (Magtein or Jarrow's Magmind) at night.. Peter tweeted that even though it's not readily absorbed, he uses Mag-Ox for bowel function?
Regarding a visual on some of the exercises, he demonstrates a little bit here:
instagram.com/zerofasting/tv/B1h0DRqg-d0/
1. One interesting thing I noted. I normally sleep very well and rarely not get a great night of 8-9 hours of sleep. But if I take Zinc before bed, I have insomnia and poor sleep. Weird right?
2. I'm not convinced about different forms of Mg. I mean, why is the standard advice to take Mg Threonate at night? I'm trying to be super sharp in the AM when I study different languages and do my day job at the hospital. So I tend to take Mg Threonate in the AM on weekends, and a cheaper Mg in the evening.
Loved the format, especially for a repeat appearance/someone so close to your brand. It was almost unnerving to hear someone repeat nearly the identical neuroticisms surrounding dish duties and rooting for inanimate objects.
For me, there is a Peter Attia before this interview, and another Peter Attia after this interview…
Just an idea, Muslims fast 12 hours daily for a month of Ramadan which just started yesterday 4-2-22. Dr. Attia can study them to reveal more clues on fasting and health results.
Dr. Peter Attia looks like Mo Salah without hair and beard.
Because his parents are from Egypt. Same Gene Pool (Geographically)
We used to play this game during Eastern Day, and the winner would take each other's broken egg home. Gambling version of your game.
Can we get some video?
Really great interview. Enjoyed his honest discussion of anger issues. Relatable.
I have respect for these guys but when I researched the possible side effects of metformin ! I would not take the chance I would be look for natural alternatives...
Love peter... but, impossible to see him as a doctor. ...how do you even get a hold of him...you can't, regular people, I'm fit, but, there is no way I could get an apt with him.. Would love to get a program from him, on all aspects of my health. Again, what is it? 5 years to seechim, x if at all... a little help here....
Did you figure this out?
@@rachaellewis666 no
@@douglasdorman9322 Am replying thumbs down in empathy for frustration. If you've figured something else out, I'd be curious...
@@rachaellewis666 thankyou,
Three day fasts work well for me followed by five+ days of OMAD carnivore. Much easier than a seven day fast and my ketones stay above 3.0 for the full time after 72 hours. I do this once every month. I fast with lots of MCT C8, Sport salts & exogenous BHBs. They minimize the hunger spikes.
What's a "sports salt"? You mean KetoCaNa? That's just as an exogenous ketone.
I hate the way Tim exaggerates his every inhalation. Example: 2:34:19
Some great information in between unnecessary chats for a podcast. Still got so much out of it because I just have to listen to what Dt Attia has to say 👍🏽
53:15 slomag
This is better than XM
Jump to min 6 if you don’t want to hear the long winded ad.
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This dude mad....
but he found logic
Ok...we play “egg wars” every Easter with hard boiled eggs.... we do crate the eggs and the winner gets a huge prize👍 never played it with fresh eggs... interesting!
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"egg boxing" is a traditional persian/armenian game played during easter it goes back decades. If there is a tournament, there should at least be one of us there to whoop that ass in a game of dzu
In Albania and Kosovo we used to play it too, and in some places, it is still probably played.
You should look into virtue philosophy. The human person can be improved at a deep core level through the continual cultivation of virtue. Aristotle had a lot to say about this. Catholic medieval thinkers developed this understanding from the ancient Greeks and this development continues today. It has many seriously positive ramifications.
Currently reading Either/Or "A fragment of Life" Søren Kierkegaard, You get the best of both worlds in this book.
1:28:16
Egg boxing, forks and knives...this guy is great. High quality tastes tho, like Rogan
ARCHERY...ZZZZZZZZ ILL SKIP THE MELATONIN TONIGHT AND JUST LISTEN TO THIS
Fasting, especially combined with athletic training, is the optimal way to eat and live. Anyone who denies that or is so bothered by that is just scared to fast, or works in the food industry.
Or the pharmaceutical industry.
Or is so thin that they're always in starvation mode and don't want to add more starvation mode to their life.
So many societal norms that support eating all the time that many people would feel, very unconsciously, that they're breaking the rules. And, the consumption (eg breakfast cereal & other foods, snack foods for daytime & night --taste really good, feel good and are actually addictive). We know that to break that routine & pattern, it's a mental & physical thang... then people's experience allows them to form new 'rules' and beliefs. Fingers' crossed that more people get there sooner vs later!!
Umm sugar free ginger beer, lime and vodka... Solves ur not mixing sugar and alcohol at the same time
Fuckin ell, didn't get to listen bcoz of all the advertisement s
Glad you like your Pelaton bike. Just don't give it to your wife for Christmas, ;)
If I listen any longer then the few minutes I have. I want money for my time. F+×king Counsel session.
God fasting was my last go-to to maybe combat male pattern baldness, guess I'm just screwed lol
timestamps if u want a like
Sorry about your daughter's chickens!
Mop
This guy fasts wayy too much considering that 3+ day fasts have been shown as unbeneficial for longevity as they cause too much stress and our ancestors likely did not actually fast for these extended periods. Robb Wolf has talked about this. Weird move by Dr. Attia - his routine 7 day fasts cant be good.
He is literally saying there is zero research on what is optimal fasting scheduling and length...
I can't speak on when exactly a fast reaches diminishing returns, but I would have no trouble believing that it's likely our ancestors fasted for much longer than 3 days at a time.
I would say you need at least 36 hours to clear garbage out of the bowel. 7 days means you clear all in 48 hours, then fast for 5 days. If he is healthy or take supplements that is fine.
Robb Wolf is also selling food products and another diet plan. Fasting advice is bad for business. 48 hour fasts are nothing, if you’re too scared or too skinny to do them, then you should do them. As long as you replenish your electrolytes with sodium, and monitor how you feel, fasting is the best way to live.
All, see my comment pls. Am desperately trying to get to the bottom of this. Have done plenty more research upon request, but am, for the first time, looking to people in comments for direction or primers
Kind of a weirdo but knowledgeable.
Truly boring (meaning 2.4 hours and hardly anything to learn)
Did you listen to all of it? I don't have 1.6 hours (1.5X) to kill.
You clearly must be being sarcastic ;)
Truth
Goblet squats and scapular retraction bro. Oh yes and don’t eat food and shit
What are bore. Tim you talk way to much.
unbearable laughter.....
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