Ok, I'd argue that DC didn't try to to forget about Hal being Parallax. If anything, they bring it up as a part of Hal's past as an important character flaw.
adam favuzzi What they DO want you to forget is that, at the time, there was no Parallax entity. At the time it was written and for years to come, Hal went mad on his own, no ancient fear bug god involved.
The weaknesses made more sense, in context, back in the day. These were the days of nearly omnipotent heroes. Seriously, I think the number one thing that DC wants people to forget about Green Lantern is that his ring was good for a lot more than just flying through space and making green constructs. It could do anything, literally anything. You want to read minds, phase through walls? No problem. You want to shrink a villain to microscopic size and store him in your ring? No problem. You want to program the ring to revive you and the rest of the Justice League anytime you get defeated? No problem. With an omnipotent hero (and all the DC heroes were crazy powerful like this), you have to have weaknesses. Superman had magic, three kinds of kryptonite, gravity, red sun radiation, etc. Wonder Woman had "men chaining her bracelets together" along with weird effects if she removed her bracelets. So, Hal Jordan had to have a weakness, and yellow was it. It made it so that normal people could defeat a god. These days, instead, we have much wimpier heroes, which I think is not an improvement. And with Alan's weakness, it was weirdly developed. Originally, his ring only affected metal (when it wasn't doing, say, absolutely anything Alan wanted it to). So, he was vulnerable to wood only because it was not metal. He was equally vulnerable to, say, plastic and rock. It was only as time went on, with him constantly being clobbered by wooden objects, that it was decided that he had a weakness to wood. Something else that I think DC wants people to forget about a Green Lantern-related character is the fact that Hal's girlfriend Carol (Star Sapphire) killed John Stewart's wife, Katma Tui. But because that would contradict DC's desire to have Carol be a superhero now, everybody just ignores that Star Sapphire is an evil evil villain who killed Katma Tui and once was a member of the Triumvirate of Evil (Her, Guy, and Hector Hammond) who tried to kill Hal, leaving him powerless in the vacuum of space. But then, DC is turning all their evil villainesses into heroes, and i"m not sure why. It seems that they think that nobody with boobs could possibly *really* be evil. ("Poison Ivy to the rescue!")
Well said. And i must say you are right about the villaness part. I can only think of a few examples of completely evil villianesses. (Jean loring, golden glider, and cheetah as far as i know)
Naw they started redeeming villainesses not because they're villainesses, but because the ones they did redeem where already really popular and had fan bases totally okay with them becoming woobies. I mean Harley is fun and just misunderstood, meanwhile Ivy and her are fun together and it sticks a bone in the Joker's craw leading to obvious story hooks. Most of them go along those sorts of lines and its not that dissimilar from the Griffith did nothing wrong, meme folks. Because its taking a villain that is obviously a villain and redeeming them because they're fun, interesting, or attractive to the audience. And I can say that, while utterly loving Batman: White Knight where we did the same thing with the Joker himself. XD
Oh, here's another thing they want you to forget: While they want you to remember that Hal's ring could not affect the color yellow (due to a "necessary impurity" in the ring), what they don't want you to remember is that Hal did not curl up and die everytime someone dressed in yellow showed up. Hal had had so much practice dealing with this weakness that he could always find a way around it. For example, when fighting The Shark (who had an "invisible yellow aura" around himself) in a warehouse whose walls were turned yellow by the Shark, it seemed like Hal wouldn't be able to do anything, right? Nope, he used his ring to create a refrigeration unit that froze the water vapor in the air into a solid block of ice that he could use to hit the Shark. One of the great things about heroes having a weakness like this is that it was always an opportunity for the hero to show off their incredible intelligence (which never happens anymore because if any of the Justice Leaguers (other than Batman) were smart, Batman would have no purpose). One can also contrast Hal's incredible intelligence and resourcefulness with Kyle's. When Kyle was suddenly given Hal's old ring to use and had to face the imminent threat of a yellow school bus... Kyle had no idea what the **** to do.
Sebastien-Loik Ntsangou-Kanda one was cosmic oddessy. The other was intentional in war of the green lanterns (xanshi in cosmic oddessy, mogo in the other)
For what it's worth, Arisia was retconned to be significantly older than Hal: a year on her planet is like five on earth, so she was actually an adult by earth standards. Not a great retcon but I'll take it. Poor Hal, writers tried so hard to inject drama into his life by turning him into scum: he dated a teenager, he was a mooch, he dated Guy's fiancee, he was an insurance adjuster.
*No mention of that time when Arisia used her ring to become visually older in order to date Hal* I'm not gonna lie I wish I could've had that power when I was a teenage girl lol
That last one's actually kind of commonplace, creators backing off an idea because of fan suggestions. That's why a lot of times when fans suggest something for a video game, game devs will back off and not use the idea simply because they don't want to get sued.
It was also that time that they reimagined Alan Scott as homosexual after the Flashpoint reboot, only to kill his fiancé after only 3 pages of presenting him. Good job, DC. You managed to be inclusive and offensive at the same time.
See I was giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming that the 'offensive' part was killing off his fiancé, doing a different riff on the Women in Refrigerators Trope. Instead, you're worse than I thought. Thanks for reaffirming my distrust of Commenters.
Killing your fiancé is the offensive part. Apart that death of a loved one as part of the history of origin is already a repetitive cliche, what is the point of changing the character's sexuality if they are not going to do anything new with this? Alan Scott's son, Obsidian, came out of the closet years before the New 52s and in fact that ported something to him and his relationship with his father. On top of that, New 52 Earth 2 is just a bad comic that has nothing to do with the JSA or the pre-Earth Crisis 2.
So 10 things dc ACTUALLY WANTS TO FORGET ABOUT GL: 10. Lord Malovio: a villian during the action comics weekly, he was an half alien lord who forced hal to take his ring because...reasons. This character was abandoned after 1 story arc and mentioned once. 9. Mosaic: ostensibly a deconstuction of john and the exploitation of modern culture through a philosophical lens. It quickly fell into a quagmire of pretentiousness, quotes, and pop culture references until suddenly john became a guardian. It was never brought up again. 8. Jack t chance. Full of 90s angst jack chance (get it) was a mistake. Hailing from a planet of outlaws jack chances character was interesting to say the least. After emerald twilight he showed up twice before parallax (kyle) killed him off. This character was so 90s that his oath included yowza and "kick butts" in it. 7. Hobo bill. Bill baguette was a gl villian in the 60s. His gimmic was to steal or use hals power ring for personal gain. He appeared three times eaxh time wrestling with hal for the ring and just vanished after the gl/ga days. 6. Gl movie/game. Not much to say. Both were terrible. Both were cash grabs and both were forgotten. 5. Millennium. A book series that spunoff of green lantern involving tom (pieface). The point of the book was a grouo of metahumans propogating their genome to forcfully evolve humanity to the next level of conscious. It introduced legendary villian snowflame (guy whos superpower is powered by cocaine. Yes really) after a brief stint they just kinda hung around for a bit before being wiped out in the early 90s (gl:third law) 4. Sinestro's sister. In 1972 readers were introduced to sinestro's sister. Turns out shes a mage who can teleport harpies out of a magic ruby that contains medusa. She was quickly forgotten. 3. His racism agaist Eskimos, and sexism in the silver age. The pieface one has been crowed to death, but did you know that hal once told carol to "get back in the kitchen, where your sex belongs." 2. Star sapphire's child. In the 90s star sapphire and predator were personalities in carrol (except predator was a demon as well?) However somehow. Just somehow. The two of them did the dirty and got star sapphire pregnant and she shares a body with carol and yet carol doesn't have the same pregnancy. After the issue it was never brought up again. 1. Arrisa. Back in the 80s hal and carol broke up (mainly because she was star sapphire at the time but whatever) so the writers took arisa: a thirteen year old alien girl and forcefully age her to "maturity" so that hal could boink her. It was creepy weird and the writers multiple attempts to justify it did not help affairs. Honorable mentions: warrior (guy gardner's 90s identity), Darkstars, women in fridges, fort knox (goldfaces car), eve dormus, charlie Vickers (the second lantern of earth after hal), grayven (darkseid's son), and hal jordan the letter. (i would have added a few more but i ran out of time.
A lot of these are important parts of Hal's character development and huge talking points that DC tends to celebrate. This was less 10 things DC wants you to forget" and more "10 interesting facts".
Hal Jordan/Parallax was defeated by Kyle Rayner on Oa. Green Arrows arrow only incapacitated Jordan after his power was significantly decreased by fighting the Justice League and the Spectre.
Remerdy T green lanter 215-224 and action comic weekly 1988-1989. Hal dated arisa, an alien who was thirteen. With a body and mind to match. They tried to justify it first by saying that their planet rotates slower then by aging her artificially
The one thing writers conveniently forget, is GL's feats and power levels. On one hand, moves planets, takes out superman and cosmic level beings. Blasts a hole in amazo. Drains power from amazo, darkseid and thanos. And other times, his constructs shatter like sugar glass, and his ring might as well be a garden hose. No consistency.
Guy Gardners my Favorite really. how about a top 10 Interesting GreenLantern Concepts? like the lantern Entities. the emotional spectrum. how we have almost 6 humans wearing green lantern rings & such
Him dating Arisia isn't on this? I didn't have a problem with it (since she was of age and an alien) but many were really creeped out by her young appearance.
10 Things Marvel Wants you to forget about Dr. Doom 10 Things DC Wants you to forget about Deathstroke 10 Things DC Wants you to forget about Green Arrow 10 Things Marvel Wants you to forget about Thor 10 Things Marvel Wants you to forget about The Hulk 10 Things DC Wants you to forget about Scarecrow
David Eduardo Gonzalez Doctor doom. 10. We was once fused with doomsday. Called dr. Doomsday 9. He was beaten by a pack of squirrels. 8. He was defeated by a bunch of teachers armed with rubberband balls. 7. His favorite soup is lima bean chowder. And Scarlett witch berated him once for eating it. 6. Doctor doom once dated storm. Or a doombot at least. 5. Doom was once taken out by a cupcake in a fight. 4. He once tried dressing up as santa Claus. 3. Every movie with him in it. 2. He kidnapped william Shakespeare in marvel 1602. 1. He nearly lost to dazzler. The disco gal. Yes really.
Man when ya'll get stuff wrong it is weirdly big things, almost as if whatculture isn't really into comics as much as they cover them due to trending "nerd culture"... either way; Guy Gardner is "nobodies favorite" ?!?! Like what? He isn't my favorite but I am still VERY aware of the hardcore GG lovers. Know who does know also, all the DC fans. Comichistorian / ComicsExplained are where it's at!
The thing DC hasn't locked in on is GL's power level. Back in the day, he easily beat Bizarro and superman-level Kryptonians and villains. He's moved planets, time travelled etc. Post Marz, Kyle and Hal get waxed by mid-level characters. Then, inexplicably he suddenly has the power to drill a hole in a beyond-Superman level cosmic character.
Why isn’t the opposite of the Green Lanterns RED? Red is literally the opposite of green! I know it’s the Lanterns of rage or whatever, but it just makes more sense, unless I’m missing something.
Hal Paralax was literally just in Convergence its really not something they want you to forget. it may not have happened in the current time line but its definitely one of the 52 earths
"Guy is no one's favorite." Wrong: he's my favorite comic book character ever. I have what little Guy Gardner merch has been made available (including Comicon exclusive stuff) to prove it. An the entire run of his solo book (which transitioned into Warrior) as individual issues. EDIT: Here's one that takes some digging: Hal Jordan is the reason Guy is the way he is. And indirectly got Jon Stewart's wife killed. When Guy was first introduced, he was pretty much a saint. He was a former prison social worker who the closest you got to him having issues with anger at all was him leaving the job out of fear that being around so many angry prisoners might have a negative effect on his psyche (reasonable to assume: he has degrees is sociology and psychology and was badly abused growing up). He then became a gym teacher for special needs children. Even without a ring, or knowledge he could have been the Green Lantern had Hal not been closer to the dying Abin Sur at the time, Guy saved a busload of children and ended up badly messing up his leg, leaving him with a limp for a long time. Cut to a bit the future. Guy is aware that he was one of the two choices of Earth's Green Lantern, and is pretty chummy with Hal. Hal's also told him if anything happens to him or he steps down, Guy will become the next Green Lantern. Hal gets into a fight with Sinestro where he ends up running his mouth, mentioning it doesn't matter if Sinestro kills him because there's another on Earth primed to take his place, and it doesn't take Sinestro long to figure out it's Guy.... who he throws into the Phantom Zone. When Guy finally made it out, he was in a coma for years and brain damaged. During this time where his good friend was in the hospital, clinging to life, Hal.... proceeded to date his fiancée and almost married her. In fact, their wedding was mutually aborted by the news that Guy woke up, although Kali declared she couldn't choose between them and eventually vanished from continuity. As a result of the brain damage, Guy suffered from impulse control issues, including an inability to keep his temper in check or his mouth shut. The thing is unlike other DC characters, who act like assholes and are unrepentant, Guy's usually shown to be honestly trying to improve himself and overcome his condition (to varying degrees of success, and what he considers success). As for Jon Stewart, during one of the many times Carol Ferris was possessed by Star Sapphire, rather than getting into an outright battle with Hal they had a more philosophical disagreement: Star Sapphire claimed that love could motivate every single other emotion. Hal was dubious and argued this wasn't true. To make her point, she decided she had to kill a Lantern's true love to show Hal that it could lead into rage. She couldn't kill Hal's love, since that was her host, so she went for Jon Stewart's wife, the badass Lantern in her own right Katma Tui. The point was made and in a moment of fridgeception: a woman was killed to cause emotional trauma to a man to cause emotional trauma to ANOTHER man. (Katma Tui actually died twice. The second has yet to be undone as of where I last read. In fact, the current Rebirth run even has Hal meet Katma in the Lantern afterlife and she asks him to let Jon know she's proud of him and happy.)
I don't really understand the problem with the "women in the refrigerator" trope. How many men have died and been tortured in comics? Billions, trillions?
I really don't like the idea that women have to be protected at all times in all media. Look, sometimes shit happens. If only men are allowed to be harmed or put in jeopardy without feminists going nuts, it's pretty unrealistic.
It's not just the issue of women being murdered, tortured, etc. The issue is instead about the fact that often women only exist in stories to be killed in order to give the *male* character motivation. Women are killed off just so that the important character (the man, of course) will feel mad/bad/sad/angry, so that the main character (the man) will have his character arc move forward. It is far far rarer for the opposite to happen. And with an historically limited reprsentation of women in comics, this is particularly noticeable.
Imagine if the purpose of many male characters was just to go through some horrible ordeal or get killed off so that the female character would have motivation to finish their goal.
Comics are infamous for using Women as Plot Devices. They didn't always make them Characters. Sometimes it happened from the start with them- like Rayner's Girlfriend- while others had it done to them since nobody in charge apparently cared about said character- like Batgirl in The Killing Joke. It's a thing that happened (and still does), so don't pretend that it is fake or part of some conspiracy. It's not.
I personally liked the 2011 Green Lantern Film, I understand why people didn't like it, but I think it is better than some movies that was made recently, I don't care to mention which ones, but I do see it better than some movies that didn't come out too long ago, not that I'm insinuating that it is a great movie mind you, I'm clearly acknowledging it had issues, but I think it isn't as bad as people make it out to be, because there were Comic-based movies that were more terrible. To be fair I'd give the movie a 5-6/10 at most, nothing more, nothing less. Of course I'm generalizing it, I don't mean the entirety of the film is superior than those specific movies I'm thinking of, I'm mostly referring to the plot, and the ideas that were in it.
HA-did not expect WonderLantern to be at the top of the list but...it DEFINITELY deserves to be there. ONE WONDERS-why they didn't just...NOT post that fan-letter?
I'm not sure where the legal jeopardy comes in, since DC owns the rights to the characters. My writing in with a story idea doesn't constitute a contract, does it?
I guess that means you guys liked the Blackest Night and Brightest Day story arcs then? Those are the ones where the Emotional Spectrum was established (Red Lanterns = Rage, Orange Lantern = Avarice, Blue Lanterns = Hope, etc.), and with each comic in the arc sold came with a different colored novelty ring.
What about the time GL created a "chiller-diller menace" to get out of answering Carol Ferris's proposal, then got knocked out by a toy airplane, turning said menace loose on the city?
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Personally I liked Hal as the Spectre. According to that version of things, the Spectre is not the wrath of God -- who doesn't even NEED wrath, when you think about it -- but rather a manifestation of the wrath of Mankind Left on its own, it will rampage and destroy. But bind it to a particular human soul -- say, one with indomitable will that has experienced rage and has chosen a better path -- and you have a human soul that can tame the Spectre, and by taming the Spectre, help improve the nature of mankind. Hal / Spectre was as powerful as any Spectre, but was also given to merciful application of justice. One of the very best depictions of Hal, I thought, even if it didn't have much to do with Hal The Texas Ranger-esque Hero. He was a terrific uncle to his niece Helen too.
Guy is no ones favorite Lantern? He has a very loyal, very passionate fan base. I'd also disagree with DC wanting people to forget Hal was parallax and killing the Corps. It was brought up regularly up until quite recently.
When the weakness to yellow was started almost every hero had a weakness. The golden age Green Lanterns vulnerability to wood has to do with his ring being magical, as in knock on wood.
If DC actually made a good lantern movie it would honestly be their best character, it would be like marvels iron man. If you’ve ever read green lantern’s darkest night etc those are literally some of the best comic storylines I’ve ever read. If DC were able to put that to film, in a good way, it would honest be one of superhero movie’s best films. I really recommend you read the darkest night and brightest day, they’re one of the most amazing comic stories I’ve ever read.
the fact that dc pussed out and had geoff johns retcon Parallax be a fucking space worm instead of just having Hal loose his mind over Coast city being destroyed and kicking every lanterns ass.
when people say what doesn't batman become a green lantern it's pretty simple Bruce more than qualifys to become a lantern but he just would not get along with any of the lantern crops
magical dufas hurblablurb By "ass kicked", do you mean nearly killed by having his throat blocked? Bats had to cut a hole in his neck so he could breathe.
In Final Night Hal Jordan is the only hero that can stop the a Sun Eater from well...eating the sun. Superman is powerless so Parallax Hal sacrifices himself to stop the world from ending (he wasn't killed by Oliver Queens arrow) Strange he had to be the Specter after DYING TO SAVE ALL OF EARTH AND OUR SOLAR SYSTEM.
I have a feeling DC would like everyone to forget the power ring lobotomy from Peter David's run in Action Comics Weekly, which is sad because that was my favorite part of Peter David's run of Green Lantern stories. DC has since amended the criterion for becoming a Green Lantern to the ability to overcome great fear, but the criterion used to be the complete lack of fear, which, as David adroitly noted, is impossible. So in Peter David's retconning of Green Lantern's origin, Abin Sur's ring removed fear from Hal Jordan's brain. Also, Lord Malvolio, an oversized villain whose costume was similar to the Golden Age Green Lantern's. That was the best of the Christopher Priest/Mark Bright GL stories, and I was really disappointed when that story wasn't continued the Green Lantern Special that supposed to tie up the storylines from Action Comics Weekly. Gail Simone can pound sand as far as I'm concerned.
Despite it's flaws, I enjoyed the Green Lantern film... It is also of note that DC had ticked a lot of it's fans off by announcing the "New52" around the same time as the Green Lantern movie was being released...
What about when underage Arisia used her power ring to grow her body into adulthood so she and Green Lantern could hook up? That was creepy even to me back when I was younger.
Hey, having a weakness to wood isn't that bad. It's what made Solomon Grundy a threat since he was part plant matter.
Ok, I'd argue that DC didn't try to to forget about Hal being Parallax. If anything, they bring it up as a part of Hal's past as an important character flaw.
adam favuzzi
True
and also eventually introduced the lantern entities
adam favuzzi What they DO want you to forget is that, at the time, there was no Parallax entity. At the time it was written and for years to come, Hal went mad on his own, no ancient fear bug god involved.
TheBlues32 Well, it's a good thing that was retconed, right?
adam favuzzi And DC wants you to forget otherwise. Hence it belongs on this list.
The weaknesses made more sense, in context, back in the day. These were the days of nearly omnipotent heroes. Seriously, I think the number one thing that DC wants people to forget about Green Lantern is that his ring was good for a lot more than just flying through space and making green constructs. It could do anything, literally anything. You want to read minds, phase through walls? No problem. You want to shrink a villain to microscopic size and store him in your ring? No problem. You want to program the ring to revive you and the rest of the Justice League anytime you get defeated? No problem.
With an omnipotent hero (and all the DC heroes were crazy powerful like this), you have to have weaknesses. Superman had magic, three kinds of kryptonite, gravity, red sun radiation, etc. Wonder Woman had "men chaining her bracelets together" along with weird effects if she removed her bracelets. So, Hal Jordan had to have a weakness, and yellow was it. It made it so that normal people could defeat a god. These days, instead, we have much wimpier heroes, which I think is not an improvement.
And with Alan's weakness, it was weirdly developed. Originally, his ring only affected metal (when it wasn't doing, say, absolutely anything Alan wanted it to). So, he was vulnerable to wood only because it was not metal. He was equally vulnerable to, say, plastic and rock. It was only as time went on, with him constantly being clobbered by wooden objects, that it was decided that he had a weakness to wood.
Something else that I think DC wants people to forget about a Green Lantern-related character is the fact that Hal's girlfriend Carol (Star Sapphire) killed John Stewart's wife, Katma Tui. But because that would contradict DC's desire to have Carol be a superhero now, everybody just ignores that Star Sapphire is an evil evil villain who killed Katma Tui and once was a member of the Triumvirate of Evil (Her, Guy, and Hector Hammond) who tried to kill Hal, leaving him powerless in the vacuum of space. But then, DC is turning all their evil villainesses into heroes, and i"m not sure why. It seems that they think that nobody with boobs could possibly *really* be evil. ("Poison Ivy to the rescue!")
Sean MacDonald Hm. Good point.
Well said. And i must say you are right about the villaness part. I can only think of a few examples of completely evil villianesses. (Jean loring, golden glider, and cheetah as far as i know)
Sean MacDonald thank you someone who reads Green lantern comics tell him off
I'd forgotten about Star Sapphire murdering Katma Tui.
Naw they started redeeming villainesses not because they're villainesses, but because the ones they did redeem where already really popular and had fan bases totally okay with them becoming woobies.
I mean Harley is fun and just misunderstood, meanwhile Ivy and her are fun together and it sticks a bone in the Joker's craw leading to obvious story hooks. Most of them go along those sorts of lines and its not that dissimilar from the Griffith did nothing wrong, meme folks. Because its taking a villain that is obviously a villain and redeeming them because they're fun, interesting, or attractive to the audience. And I can say that, while utterly loving Batman: White Knight where we did the same thing with the Joker himself. XD
Oh, here's another thing they want you to forget:
While they want you to remember that Hal's ring could not affect the color yellow (due to a "necessary impurity" in the ring), what they don't want you to remember is that Hal did not curl up and die everytime someone dressed in yellow showed up. Hal had had so much practice dealing with this weakness that he could always find a way around it. For example, when fighting The Shark (who had an "invisible yellow aura" around himself) in a warehouse whose walls were turned yellow by the Shark, it seemed like Hal wouldn't be able to do anything, right? Nope, he used his ring to create a refrigeration unit that froze the water vapor in the air into a solid block of ice that he could use to hit the Shark. One of the great things about heroes having a weakness like this is that it was always an opportunity for the hero to show off their incredible intelligence (which never happens anymore because if any of the Justice Leaguers (other than Batman) were smart, Batman would have no purpose).
One can also contrast Hal's incredible intelligence and resourcefulness with Kyle's. When Kyle was suddenly given Hal's old ring to use and had to face the imminent threat of a yellow school bus... Kyle had no idea what the **** to do.
Sean MacDonald I'm sorry, WHAT? An "invisible yellow field"? "Invisible...yellow..." WHAT?
John Stewart accidentally blowing up two planets.
Amanze I remember that; Cosmic Odyssey, right?
Sebastien-Loik Ntsangou-Kanda one was cosmic oddessy. The other was intentional in war of the green lanterns (xanshi in cosmic oddessy, mogo in the other)
Reading Cosmic Odyssey, I always felt that was something more in line with Guy Gardner's character.
Oops.
"In Brightest Day in Blackest Night, No evil shall Escape my sight, let those who worship evils might, beware of my power Green Lantern's light."
The green lanterns oath is not that hard to memorize.
I've memorized the Green, Yellow, Blue, Red, Pink (Star Sapphire), and Orange Lantern oaths.
I did not have to much problem with that one the problem is trying to memorize some of the others
Yeah I got the green and red down.
How about as a challenge memorize the special oath from Green lantern's annual #3 by Allen Moore.
@@Ragamuffin-Guesses-cgc-grades I got green red, black and kinda yellow but I have not even heard of this special version so ya got me there 😅
The green luntun turns up in the Lego batman games. It's kinda funny.
I was so confused why daffy duck was in that game as a lantern. I thought kit was just a weird random idea tt games came up with
Lun tun?
@@liamwilliams1794 same, but then i googled it and it turned out to be a legit thing
How could you forget to include Arisia Rrab, GL's underage girlfriend who was explicitly a sister-figure to him?
For what it's worth, Arisia was retconned to be significantly older than Hal: a year on her planet is like five on earth, so she was actually an adult by earth standards. Not a great retcon but I'll take it. Poor Hal, writers tried so hard to inject drama into his life by turning him into scum: he dated a teenager, he was a mooch, he dated Guy's fiancee, he was an insurance adjuster.
*No mention of that time when Arisia used her ring to become visually older in order to date Hal*
I'm not gonna lie I wish I could've had that power when I was a teenage girl lol
That last one's actually kind of commonplace, creators backing off an idea because of fan suggestions. That's why a lot of times when fans suggest something for a video game, game devs will back off and not use the idea simply because they don't want to get sued.
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The Parallax event was cool. The turn to evil was a good way to turn him evil.
Hal Jordan is my favorite superhero of all time
"Things DC Wants You To Forget About Green Lantern"
Everything before Geoff Johns took over.
Everything after he left.
the current stories are good... some of them...
No, Krona and Hector Hammond definitely predate Johns, and Green Lantern/Green Arrow is from the Denny O'Neil era.
It was also that time that they reimagined Alan Scott as homosexual after the Flashpoint reboot, only to kill his fiancé after only 3 pages of presenting him.
Good job, DC. You managed to be inclusive and offensive at the same time.
how is that offensive, are gay people immortal?
See I was giving you the benefit of the doubt and assuming that the 'offensive' part was killing off his fiancé, doing a different riff on the Women in Refrigerators Trope.
Instead, you're worse than I thought. Thanks for reaffirming my distrust of Commenters.
Killing your fiancé is the offensive part. Apart that death of a loved one as part of the history of origin is already a repetitive cliche, what is the point of changing the character's sexuality if they are not going to do anything new with this?
Alan Scott's son, Obsidian, came out of the closet years before the New 52s and in fact that ported something to him and his relationship with his father.
On top of that, New 52 Earth 2 is just a bad comic that has nothing to do with the JSA or the pre-Earth Crisis 2.
Sam's death was part of his character. The proposal ring Alan got turned into the magic ring he got his powers from.
So 10 things dc ACTUALLY WANTS TO FORGET ABOUT GL:
10. Lord Malovio: a villian during the action comics weekly, he was an half alien lord who forced hal to take his ring because...reasons. This character was abandoned after 1 story arc and mentioned once.
9. Mosaic: ostensibly a deconstuction of john and the exploitation of modern culture through a philosophical lens. It quickly fell into a quagmire of pretentiousness, quotes, and pop culture references until suddenly john became a guardian. It was never brought up again.
8. Jack t chance. Full of 90s angst jack chance (get it) was a mistake. Hailing from a planet of outlaws jack chances character was interesting to say the least. After emerald twilight he showed up twice before parallax (kyle) killed him off. This character was so 90s that his oath included yowza and "kick butts" in it.
7. Hobo bill. Bill baguette was a gl villian in the 60s. His gimmic was to steal or use hals power ring for personal gain. He appeared three times eaxh time wrestling with hal for the ring and just vanished after the gl/ga days.
6. Gl movie/game. Not much to say. Both were terrible. Both were cash grabs and both were forgotten.
5. Millennium. A book series that spunoff of green lantern involving tom (pieface). The point of the book was a grouo of metahumans propogating their genome to forcfully evolve humanity to the next level of conscious. It introduced legendary villian snowflame (guy whos superpower is powered by cocaine. Yes really) after a brief stint they just kinda hung around for a bit before being wiped out in the early 90s (gl:third law)
4. Sinestro's sister. In 1972 readers were introduced to sinestro's sister. Turns out shes a mage who can teleport harpies out of a magic ruby that contains medusa. She was quickly forgotten.
3. His racism agaist Eskimos, and sexism in the silver age. The pieface one has been crowed to death, but did you know that hal once told carol to "get back in the kitchen, where your sex belongs."
2. Star sapphire's child. In the 90s star sapphire and predator were personalities in carrol (except predator was a demon as well?) However somehow. Just somehow. The two of them did the dirty and got star sapphire pregnant and she shares a body with carol and yet carol doesn't have the same pregnancy. After the issue it was never brought up again.
1. Arrisa. Back in the 80s hal and carol broke up (mainly because she was star sapphire at the time but whatever) so the writers took arisa: a thirteen year old alien girl and forcefully age her to "maturity" so that hal could boink her. It was creepy weird and the writers multiple attempts to justify it did not help affairs.
Honorable mentions: warrior (guy gardner's 90s identity), Darkstars, women in fridges, fort knox (goldfaces car), eve dormus, charlie Vickers (the second lantern of earth after hal), grayven (darkseid's son), and hal jordan the letter. (i would have added a few more but i ran out of time.
austin channel way to out list what culture lol. Your's is way better than theirs.
austin channel Hey...Snowflame was an awesome villain who was taken from us all too soon. Cocaine was his god and it gave him POWER.
TheBlues32 ah yes. Tis a shame that his appearance was but once. Although i do enjoy the linkara skits with him as well.
Well done sir. Totally agree. I've read GL since 85, and the Mosaic was such a weird, convoluted story.
@Cipher Pol 9 huh that i did not know. But it makes sense as to why that was the prevailing theory at the time.
A lot of these are important parts of Hal's character development and huge talking points that DC tends to celebrate. This was less 10 things DC wants you to forget" and more "10 interesting facts".
Omg I subscribed last night and wake up to find a video you posted 5 min. Ago!
Hal Jordan/Parallax was defeated by Kyle Rayner on Oa. Green Arrows arrow only incapacitated Jordan after his power was significantly decreased by fighting the Justice League and the Spectre.
GL's GF in the fridge was a shocking moment and a motivator for Kyle. It wasn't a debacle.
"Green Lantern was in Justice League but it wasn't the familiar ones we know":.
actually, its the one who was the reason for the wood weakness
TheDCLogical :. Yeah i remember to during the big fight towards the beginning
So. No mention of the time hal dated a thirteen year old girl.. K then
austin channel When was this?
Remerdy T green lanter 215-224 and action comic weekly 1988-1989. Hal dated arisa, an alien who was thirteen. With a body and mind to match. They tried to justify it first by saying that their planet rotates slower then by aging her artificially
that shit is so forgotten by DC that even the channel forgot to mention it, lol.
ngl arisa is pretty hot
@@ricimer8517 that is justifiable tho? Its a freaking aliean
I don't think DC wants us to forget all of these things
Guy Gardner is no ones favourite? Just speak for yourself WhatCulture, just speak for yourself...
Agreed! Guy started out bad but got redeemed big time and became a much more interesting character.
you either hate guy or worship him. there's no in between
The hatred for the film is ridiculous all because GL’s costume was lit.
The CGI on him was TERRIBLE.
People like John Stewart the best
Dc don't want want us to forget about Hal killing all the Green Lantern Corps...in every comics since rebirth it's constantly reminding us about this
The one thing writers conveniently forget, is GL's feats and power levels. On one hand, moves planets, takes out superman and cosmic level beings. Blasts a hole in amazo. Drains power from amazo, darkseid and thanos. And other times, his constructs shatter like sugar glass, and his ring might as well be a garden hose. No consistency.
Because exploiting the weaknesses of your enemies is totally encouraging violence against women and sexist . Ffs
Fridge story is actually good though
Guy Gardners my Favorite really. how about a top 10 Interesting GreenLantern Concepts? like the lantern Entities. the emotional spectrum. how we have almost 6 humans wearing green lantern rings & such
Right on for the Guy love. He's not just my favorite Lantern, he's my favorite comic character, period.
My favorite green lantern too, also my favorite red lantern.
Guy is a lose cannon. How he even got a ring is a mystery. I suspect a glitch in the selection process.
Him dating Arisia isn't on this? I didn't have a problem with it (since she was of age and an alien) but many were really creeped out by her young appearance.
DC stole a perfectly good Hal Jordan in Chris Pine for Wonder Woman
Guy Gardner (as Hal Punches Batman in the Face): YES YES HOW DOES IT FEEL!!!!
10 Things Marvel Wants you to forget about Dr. Doom
10 Things DC Wants you to forget about Deathstroke
10 Things DC Wants you to forget about Green Arrow
10 Things Marvel Wants you to forget about Thor
10 Things Marvel Wants you to forget about The Hulk
10 Things DC Wants you to forget about Scarecrow
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Doctor doom.
10. We was once fused with doomsday. Called dr. Doomsday
9. He was beaten by a pack of squirrels.
8. He was defeated by a bunch of teachers armed with rubberband balls.
7. His favorite soup is lima bean chowder. And Scarlett witch berated him once for eating it.
6. Doctor doom once dated storm. Or a doombot at least.
5. Doom was once taken out by a cupcake in a fight.
4. He once tried dressing up as santa Claus.
3. Every movie with him in it.
2. He kidnapped william Shakespeare in marvel 1602.
1. He nearly lost to dazzler. The disco gal. Yes really.
austin channel Well all that was embarrasing for poor Doom.
10 reasons Marvel wants us to forget about DC.
Ten things dc wants you to forget about scarecrow, all ten would probably just be that scarebeast mess.
Man when ya'll get stuff wrong it is weirdly big things, almost as if whatculture isn't really into comics as much as they cover them due to trending "nerd culture"... either way; Guy Gardner is "nobodies favorite" ?!?! Like what? He isn't my favorite but I am still VERY aware of the hardcore GG lovers.
Know who does know also, all the DC fans.
Comichistorian / ComicsExplained are where it's at!
Interesting list! I heard of most of those things except the planned GL/WW romance. I’m actually glad that was quashed.
The thing DC hasn't locked in on is GL's power level. Back in the day, he easily beat Bizarro and superman-level Kryptonians and villains. He's moved planets, time travelled etc. Post Marz, Kyle and Hal get waxed by mid-level characters. Then, inexplicably he suddenly has the power to drill a hole in a beyond-Superman level cosmic character.
Hey, Guy Gardner is MY favorite lantern. I especially loved him during that time he was a red.
My number one thing I wish to forget about Green Lantern, the entire Ron Marz run.
so Homer simpson can beat Green Lantern?
not anymore now that parallax is not in the central power battery
Or anybody in The Simpson universe, shoot even Ralph Wiggum.
D'oh!
@@ShinbrigTV he eats yellow crayons
SigmaDraconis87 no
So...there weak vs yellow and wood?
“So i can defeat both of them with a #2 pencil”?
Nobody beats Parallax Sinestro. ⚡️⚡️
Dennis Cleary what about Parallax Superman?
Oisin Lynch That’s a good one, but I would still have to go with Sinestro because he understands fear and the power it holds.
White Lantern Kyle
Dennis Cleary Parallax Hal almost erased the universe in Zero Hour
Darkstar Darin Very true, it could go either way but my money would be on Kyle as well 👍👍
Why isn’t the opposite of the Green Lanterns RED? Red is literally the opposite of green! I know it’s the Lanterns of rage or whatever, but it just makes more sense, unless I’m missing something.
Duck Dodgers was one of if not the funniest cartoon of its time
Let's be honest the green lantern movie should have been number one on the list
eric keiser Agreed
I think they knew it was the obvious choice so they hot it out of the way first. It's kinda kicking a dead horse at this ppint
Warner has no respect for DC or Looney Toons.
I think they're partial to Marvel (EVEN BEFORE Disney)
Hal Paralax was literally just in Convergence its really not something they want you to forget. it may not have happened in the current time line but its definitely one of the 52 earths
"Guy is no one's favorite." Wrong: he's my favorite comic book character ever. I have what little Guy Gardner merch has been made available (including Comicon exclusive stuff) to prove it. An the entire run of his solo book (which transitioned into Warrior) as individual issues.
EDIT: Here's one that takes some digging: Hal Jordan is the reason Guy is the way he is. And indirectly got Jon Stewart's wife killed. When Guy was first introduced, he was pretty much a saint. He was a former prison social worker who the closest you got to him having issues with anger at all was him leaving the job out of fear that being around so many angry prisoners might have a negative effect on his psyche (reasonable to assume: he has degrees is sociology and psychology and was badly abused growing up). He then became a gym teacher for special needs children. Even without a ring, or knowledge he could have been the Green Lantern had Hal not been closer to the dying Abin Sur at the time, Guy saved a busload of children and ended up badly messing up his leg, leaving him with a limp for a long time.
Cut to a bit the future. Guy is aware that he was one of the two choices of Earth's Green Lantern, and is pretty chummy with Hal. Hal's also told him if anything happens to him or he steps down, Guy will become the next Green Lantern. Hal gets into a fight with Sinestro where he ends up running his mouth, mentioning it doesn't matter if Sinestro kills him because there's another on Earth primed to take his place, and it doesn't take Sinestro long to figure out it's Guy.... who he throws into the Phantom Zone. When Guy finally made it out, he was in a coma for years and brain damaged. During this time where his good friend was in the hospital, clinging to life, Hal.... proceeded to date his fiancée and almost married her. In fact, their wedding was mutually aborted by the news that Guy woke up, although Kali declared she couldn't choose between them and eventually vanished from continuity. As a result of the brain damage, Guy suffered from impulse control issues, including an inability to keep his temper in check or his mouth shut. The thing is unlike other DC characters, who act like assholes and are unrepentant, Guy's usually shown to be honestly trying to improve himself and overcome his condition (to varying degrees of success, and what he considers success).
As for Jon Stewart, during one of the many times Carol Ferris was possessed by Star Sapphire, rather than getting into an outright battle with Hal they had a more philosophical disagreement: Star Sapphire claimed that love could motivate every single other emotion. Hal was dubious and argued this wasn't true. To make her point, she decided she had to kill a Lantern's true love to show Hal that it could lead into rage. She couldn't kill Hal's love, since that was her host, so she went for Jon Stewart's wife, the badass Lantern in her own right Katma Tui. The point was made and in a moment of fridgeception: a woman was killed to cause emotional trauma to a man to cause emotional trauma to ANOTHER man. (Katma Tui actually died twice. The second has yet to be undone as of where I last read. In fact, the current Rebirth run even has Hal meet Katma in the Lantern afterlife and she asks him to let Jon know she's proud of him and happy.)
Green Lantern 48-50 odd is one of my faves, yes it’s a dark turn but love it
I tried to forget some in these list but thanks for reminding.
Guy Gardner will always be my favorite. I don't know what it is, but dickheads with a heart of gold never lose their luster with me. LOL.
I don't really understand the problem with the "women in the refrigerator" trope. How many men have died and been tortured in comics? Billions, trillions?
It's just another facet of militant feminism on the rampage again!
I really don't like the idea that women have to be protected at all times in all media. Look, sometimes shit happens. If only men are allowed to be harmed or put in jeopardy without feminists going nuts, it's pretty unrealistic.
It's not just the issue of women being murdered, tortured, etc. The issue is instead about the fact that often women only exist in stories to be killed in order to give the *male* character motivation. Women are killed off just so that the important character (the man, of course) will feel mad/bad/sad/angry, so that the main character (the man) will have his character arc move forward. It is far far rarer for the opposite to happen. And with an historically limited reprsentation of women in comics, this is particularly noticeable.
Imagine if the purpose of many male characters was just to go through some horrible ordeal or get killed off so that the female character would have motivation to finish their goal.
Comics are infamous for using Women as Plot Devices. They didn't always make them Characters.
Sometimes it happened from the start with them- like Rayner's Girlfriend- while others had it done to them since nobody in charge apparently cared about said character- like Batgirl in The Killing Joke.
It's a thing that happened (and still does), so don't pretend that it is fake or part of some conspiracy. It's not.
I want to see more of the red lanterns
can whoever edits these please fix the sound levels so I don't go deaf from the introtune just to hear the person talking oktybye
What's done is done, and cannot be undone.
I personally liked the 2011 Green Lantern Film, I understand why people didn't like it, but I think it is better than some movies that was made recently, I don't care to mention which ones, but I do see it better than some movies that didn't come out too long ago, not that I'm insinuating that it is a great movie mind you, I'm clearly acknowledging it had issues, but I think it isn't as bad as people make it out to be, because there were Comic-based movies that were more terrible. To be fair I'd give the movie a 5-6/10 at most, nothing more, nothing less. Of course I'm generalizing it, I don't mean the entirety of the film is superior than those specific movies I'm thinking of, I'm mostly referring to the plot, and the ideas that were in it.
HA-did not expect WonderLantern to be at the top of the list but...it DEFINITELY deserves to be there. ONE WONDERS-why they didn't just...NOT post that fan-letter?
I'm not sure where the legal jeopardy comes in, since DC owns the rights to the characters. My writing in with a story idea doesn't constitute a contract, does it?
IT does not, bringing into the utter confusement.
I absolutely knew that the movie was gonna be here somewhere
I guess that means you guys liked the Blackest Night and Brightest Day story arcs then? Those are the ones where the Emotional Spectrum was established (Red Lanterns = Rage, Orange Lantern = Avarice, Blue Lanterns = Hope, etc.), and with each comic in the arc sold came with a different colored novelty ring.
DISnut I liked the Blackest Night. Not so much Brightest Day.
Idk about you but my favorite Green Lantern is Kyle Rayner
What about the time GL created a "chiller-diller menace" to get out of answering Carol Ferris's proposal, then got knocked out by a toy airplane, turning said menace loose on the city?
LOL. The Sonic Screwdriver (From Doctor Who)'s weakness is wood. It literally can't work with wood!
You forgot about the time Batman and Superman just took off his ring.
if just once WhatCulture could put out a video where the intor/outro was the same volume as the video i'd be so happy! i get deafened, then have to turn it up for the video and then deafened again if i forget to stop it before the end
that Version of Batman from ASBAR is actually Crazy Steve.
Personally I liked Hal as the Spectre. According to that version of things, the Spectre is not the wrath of God -- who doesn't even NEED wrath, when you think about it -- but rather a manifestation of the wrath of Mankind Left on its own, it will rampage and destroy. But bind it to a particular human soul -- say, one with indomitable will that has experienced rage and has chosen a better path -- and you have a human soul that can tame the Spectre, and by taming the Spectre, help improve the nature of mankind. Hal / Spectre was as powerful as any Spectre, but was also given to merciful application of justice. One of the very best depictions of Hal, I thought, even if it didn't have much to do with Hal The Texas Ranger-esque Hero. He was a terrific uncle to his niece Helen too.
11. The fact that they cancelled his Show (and Beware the Batman), but kept Teen Titans Go around.
Guy is no ones favorite Lantern? He has a very loyal, very passionate fan base. I'd also disagree with DC wanting people to forget Hal was parallax and killing the Corps. It was brought up regularly up until quite recently.
GL/WW romance sorta did happen, by way of legacy characters Donna Troy & Kyle Rayner.
When the weakness to yellow was started almost every hero had a weakness. The golden age Green Lanterns vulnerability to wood has to do with his ring being magical, as in knock on wood.
If DC actually made a good lantern movie it would honestly be their best character, it would be like marvels iron man. If you’ve ever read green lantern’s darkest night etc those are literally some of the best comic storylines I’ve ever read. If DC were able to put that to film, in a good way, it would honest be one of superhero movie’s best films. I really recommend you read the darkest night and brightest day, they’re one of the most amazing comic stories I’ve ever read.
You forgot to mention jessica cruz and simon when talking about earth green lanterns
the fact that dc pussed out and had geoff johns retcon Parallax be a fucking space worm instead of just having Hal loose his mind over Coast city being destroyed and kicking every lanterns ass.
DC NEEDS to make the a good lantern movie, setup a trilogy and by the end he will become the one and only white lantern
...and Simon Baz & Jessica Cruz, the current Green Lanterns serving with the Justice League.
when people say what doesn't batman become a green lantern
it's pretty simple Bruce more than qualifys to become a lantern but he just would not get along with any of the lantern crops
I miss Queen Tyr'ahnee.
Again guys , where is ben? What did i missed?
Scott Ferrell thx for the answer. Sorry to hear that.
No, DC comics. We will never forget the Woman in Fridge incident. You brought that &^%# on yourself!
GL sidekick was called Pieface.
hoosierwood Now THERE is something DC wants us to forget.
what about the time he got his ass kicked by robin?
magical dufas hurblablurb By "ass kicked", do you mean nearly killed by having his throat blocked? Bats had to cut a hole in his neck so he could breathe.
Never forget the Green Loontern! Never forget Duck Dodgers! Never forget the Green Lantern oath!
Ive always like Hal Jordan and Guy Gardner
Where is Ben? #BringBackBEN
OMG! the GL movie wasn't that bad, did it need work yes of course it did, but it wasn't as bad as the Last Airbeander
True, but that's not setting the bar all that high :P
Hated it!
I just took the girlfriend in the fridge at face value. Major Force was totally evil, and that was a result.
In Final Night Hal Jordan is the only hero that can stop the a Sun Eater from well...eating the sun. Superman is powerless so Parallax Hal sacrifices himself to stop the world from ending (he wasn't killed by Oliver Queens arrow) Strange he had to be the Specter after DYING TO SAVE ALL OF EARTH AND OUR SOLAR SYSTEM.
Honestly, I liked the Green Lantern film
I’m also not remotely critical of anything, you should try it
I have a feeling DC would like everyone to forget the power ring lobotomy from Peter David's run in Action Comics Weekly, which is sad because that was my favorite part of Peter David's run of Green Lantern stories. DC has since amended the criterion for becoming a Green Lantern to the ability to overcome great fear, but the criterion used to be the complete lack of fear, which, as David adroitly noted, is impossible. So in Peter David's retconning of Green Lantern's origin, Abin Sur's ring removed fear from Hal Jordan's brain.
Also, Lord Malvolio, an oversized villain whose costume was similar to the Golden Age Green Lantern's. That was the best of the Christopher Priest/Mark Bright GL stories, and I was really disappointed when that story wasn't continued the Green Lantern Special that supposed to tie up the storylines from Action Comics Weekly.
Gail Simone can pound sand as far as I'm concerned.
What was the name of Hal's first sidekick again? Oh yeah, "Pieface." Because he was an Eskimo, get it?
Much like Batman. Hal Jordan had a contingency plan to defeat the Justice League if the went rogue. Source: "Last Will and Testament of Hal Jordan"
Guy Gardner is my favourite Lantern
Say what you will , 2011 green lantern wasn’t that bad , enjoyed it as a kid and enjoy it now
So once again what culture do a list yet don’t read or know the topic, good job
Despite it's flaws, I enjoyed the Green Lantern film... It is also of note that DC had ticked a lot of it's fans off by announcing the "New52" around the same time as the Green Lantern movie was being released...
4:07 TVTropes calls it "Stuffed In The Fridge"
What about when underage Arisia used her power ring to grow her body into adulthood so she and Green Lantern could hook up? That was creepy even to me back when I was younger.
Cute ending. Don't leave us.