I don’t feel the presence of wove paper is convincing proof of forgery. Certainly some wove paper was being produced in 1800, and might have been used for novelty’s sake or a cost cutting measure. The only way to know for sure is to examine the one known original, wherever that might be. This is a very fascinating subject-all your postings are very interesting!
Remember the famous scene in the Ninth Gate where Corso asks the Ceniza Bros. if the Ninth Gate that they sold Telfer (and Telfer sold Balkan right before he hung himself) could be a fake, and they tell Corso he speaks of forgeries too lightly because it is very difficult to do. btw, Adam, on an unrelated, yet trivial, note...when did the 's' begin to be written like we know today?. That is, when did it change from looking like an 'f' as we see in older texts from before the early 1800s. I noticed Webster still used the f-looking 's' in his 1806 Dictionary but had the normal 's' of today when he printed his 1828 Dictionary, so it must have been somewhere between 1806 and 1828. What caused the change?. Any particular person or paper that started the trend we know today?
Yes the great thing about antique books and collecting is it a sport for everyone. You can pick up interesting books at flea markets, online or even from dealers for a song. Check out my cheapest rare book videos if you like as well
@@RareBookBuyer I tried to look in that it's a 1913 corrected to June 17 1918 small arms Firing manual bantas special edition and every where I look I can't find anything on it
I think you meant to say "laid" paper has the chain lines, "wove" has no chain lines. "Rag" (cotton or linen) is not the distinction between the two. Early wove paper was made with "rag" too (and still is for archival art paper). Wood pulp (very acidic) wasn't used until the last quarter of the 19th century.
Yes that is what I meant - laid with chain lines vs. wove without chain lines. Excuse the error as I just just talk without reading cues so I can make slips . What is clear in my head is not always perfectly explained. Thanks for clarifying
@@RareBookBuyer The topic of fakes is fascinating, and your video instantly reminded me of Hebborn talking about rummaging through antiquarian book stores looking for books with blank pages of genuine period paper to make his fake old master drawings more convincing.
So facinating and engaging to watch. Found you from Pawn Stars and enjoy your personal posts here.
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Thank you Adam, much appreciated as always.
Thank you for taking the time to upload. I always look forward to your scintillating deep dives into the world of rare books.
Scintillating. Hmm.. I’m ending every catalog entry with that word now
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I love your channel, Adam! I hope you would upload more. :)
I’ll try and really appreciate the feedback
I find it amazing how certain forgeries become a rare and unique item in its own way (for different reasons of course!) Great video, so informative!
Thank you so much … always enjoy listening to and watching your interesting rare book research videos.
Thank you Betty as always !
I don’t feel the presence of wove paper is convincing proof of forgery. Certainly some wove paper was being produced in 1800, and might have been used for novelty’s sake or a cost cutting measure. The only way to know for sure is to examine the one known original, wherever that might be. This is a very fascinating subject-all your postings are very interesting!
I am not sure proof, but something that raises suspicions combined with other forensic like analysis perhaps. Thanks for watching!
Remember the famous scene in the Ninth Gate where Corso asks the Ceniza Bros. if the Ninth Gate that they sold Telfer (and Telfer sold Balkan right before he hung himself) could be a fake, and they tell Corso he speaks of forgeries too lightly because it is very difficult to do.
btw, Adam, on an unrelated, yet trivial, note...when did the 's' begin to be written like we know today?. That is, when did it change from looking like an 'f' as we see in older texts from before the early 1800s. I noticed Webster still used the f-looking 's' in his 1806 Dictionary but had the normal 's' of today when he printed his 1828 Dictionary, so it must have been somewhere between 1806 and 1828. What caused the change?. Any particular person or paper that started the trend we know today?
What would you estimate to be the cheapest price for a decently rare or antique book?
Yes the great thing about antique books and collecting is it a sport for everyone. You can pick up interesting books at flea markets, online or even from dealers for a song. Check out my cheapest rare book videos if you like as well
@@RareBookBuyer Alright, thanks for the reply!
@@RareBookBuyer What’s the video called?
Hey I have a question I have a wwi small arms manual from 1918 how should I check that?
Vialibri.net is an excellent site for pricing
@@RareBookBuyer I tried to look in that it's a 1913 corrected to June 17 1918 small arms Firing manual bantas special edition and every where I look I can't find anything on it
I think you meant to say "laid" paper has the chain lines, "wove" has no chain lines. "Rag" (cotton or linen) is not the distinction between the two. Early wove paper was made with "rag" too (and still is for archival art paper). Wood pulp (very acidic) wasn't used until the last quarter of the 19th century.
Yes that is what I meant - laid with chain lines vs. wove without chain lines. Excuse the error as I just just talk without reading cues so I can make slips . What is clear in my head is not always perfectly explained. Thanks for clarifying
@@RareBookBuyer The topic of fakes is fascinating, and your video instantly reminded me of Hebborn talking about rummaging through antiquarian book stores looking for books with blank pages of genuine period paper to make his fake old master drawings more convincing.
Yes his books are my favorite! Great reads
Interesting video! Thank you
Thanks Isaiah as always for your support and watching. Appreciated from a fellow bookseller with a keen eye
I listened to this on my commute to work. Now all I want to do is look up fake books all day!
I hope listening did not make the commute even more dreadful ;). But seriously, thank you.