Well mine arrived today... It's crazy good!! I'm no tube fender amp purist. I do have a Blues Junior, and a Mesa Lonestar which I love. But this is something else... I got the fender clean I never knew I wanted! Warning ⚠️ it's potentially VERY LOUD, use caution, you could destroy your hearing forever.
I really wanted the next Tone Master to be the Bassman (cue story about childhood dream amp that slipped through my fingers) but actually now I want/need this!
Nice video. Great playing. The reality is these days that digital amps and modelers have come a long way. I love tube amps. And don't love them at the same time. Tubes can sound good at one point but with environment changes not sound as good the next. They burn out, they make for a heavy amp, etc. Going the digital route cuts that stuff out in part.
Best sounding digital guitar product so far for me. Exactly what I was complaining about digital product is not there. There are no 99999999 amp/pedal/effects models and what not. What there is, is sound from proper 4x10 with proper speakers, easy to use and instantly great sound. No stupid 6 months of learning your modeler.
Reality is it takes less than a week to figure out a modeler. Then you're left with a superior product. If you buy this amp you'll either be buying or chugging around $1000's worth of pedals. Digital amp's with no effects are pretty much pointless these days.
@@ashcosmo3854 yes, I see. You like modelers. Thats good for you. So far I have little luck with them. Was not happy with Axe FX and also was not happy with Helix. Tone jurney continues.
Awesome intro always enjoy watch Pete play. Fender makes excellent amps and guitars I think Fender should try and put an attenuated control into their new tube amps as well that would sell like crazy especially for people like me that live in a apartment/flat. I have a Boss Katana Artist MKii and love it I’m thinking about doing a wet/dry setup and was looking at one of these to add to my set up. Hope you guys are doing well, Cheers from New Mexico, USA.
Fender produced a beautiful modeler with its Mustang V2 amplis and pedalboard (first and last ones not so good, in my opinion). Not highly versatile in editing but well sounding! They are showing good efforts to get out from the crisis.
$1250 for a chinese solid state amp with a fender logo. A few years ago, I bought a 62 Concert amp for $1200 on craig's list. Better off buying a Quilter amp head, made in the USA.
I would love to go with Tone Masters...but I'm just too concerned with the longevity of the digital stuff...and will it still be repairable in ten years?
The good thing about fender releasing those amps model by model is that it gives time for the engineers to fine tune the algorithms for each model. IMO the secret of those amps is not dedicated processing power, but rather dedicated human power in modeling one by one
Pete's intro jam has to be my second favorite of all the videos I've watched; right behind the bit he played on the Joe Bonamassa Black Beauty video. Pete, please man - put out a blues masterclass.
Laurens Hammond invented spring reverb instead of using an echo room for his Hammond Organ invention. Probably as important as Leo Fender or Les Paul in the history of popular music of the 20th century but often overlooked.
I wish the Db meter wasn't blocked when showing the attenuation. That would have been helpful to know. I'm curious if it does 70db and sounds well or what the threshold is.
@@Ottophil stop shouting then :-) I use a helix at home fro practice and have my monitors set to 70db and it's nice to not push my hearing. I have some ringing from being young and loud, I don't need to make it worse practicing.
Good question - I usually play in the 70 - 75 dB range which is comfortable for me, especially as I don’t have a dedicated playing room and need to be considerate of the family. That Pedal Show routinely go over 100 dB...!!
One of the best sounding videos I've heard on the channel. And definitely the best sounding video with the TMSR on the Internet period. It is great to hear this amp in the hands of folks that know how to dial in a Super Reverb to sound great. Thanks a bunch for doing this and for putting it through the paces with all the guitars so that we can hear how well it responds with each. Awesome stuff. It seems like the amp inspired and brought out higher levels of playing from both of them than I have seen before. That's a testament to how good the amp is.
@@andertons When you do the comparison, consider playing through the same cab - I want to know how much of any difference is the amp itself, and how much is the neodymium speaker. A tonemaster with some standard speakers (adds 20-30 lbs), or a valve amp with the neodymium speakers (subtracts 20-30 lbs) might be the best all around.
Nice demo. Sure would've been nice to actually see the DB meter, given the attenuator is such a big selling point. Not sure who's idea it was to park a bass guitar headstock right in front of the meter readout.
I’ve owned a Tone Master Deluxe Reverb since they first came out in September 2019 (I pre-ordered mine). Also, about mid 2021, I purchased a Tone Master Twin Reverb. I’ve been playing these amps constantly, using my Fender Baja 50’s Telecaster, and my gorgeous new Fender Vintera ‘70’s Telecaster. I can tell you, these amps are the real deal. The sound comes about 95% close to their tube counterparts. By the way, I also own two Fender Tube reissue amps: a ‘65 Twin Reverb and a ‘63 Vibroverb. I trust my ears, and these Tone Masters are something you need to play for yourself. You won’t regret it. You will be pleasantly surprised. Particularly if you’re into clean tones. I wish they would make a Silverface Tone Master now.
Great review guys, first watched this a year ago, and it inspired me to take a dip into the digital world. having used tube amps for more years than i care to remember. i've owned my TMSR for a year now, and have to say I love it. I've always liked the sound of a 4X10 cab and also own a hotrod deville 4X10 which i also love but weighs a ton and is insanely loud. this is where the tone masters come into there own, so light to carry and the ability to get great sound at lower volumes. I gig with mine regularly and most of the time I keep it on the 5 Watt setting, that is more than enough volume for small to medium sized venues and gets start of breakup at about 5-6 on volume dial. Another great feature is the DI out, this sound great when recorded direct, would'nt bother with a mic ever again, the cabinet sim is superb. Before I got the TMSR I was using my Deluxe reverb for gigs, Really nice amps if you are into fender amp sound, and have to admit, i was a little unsure about using the tone master at first, but now i'm used to it, would not go back. Cant recommend this enough.
Bought one about a year ago to add to my Blonde TMDR . Love it!!!! Played tube amps for 30 years and still have a few, but the light weight and great sound at a low volumes as well make this a keeper for me!!!
Every amp sounds different depending on who is playing. These sales videos would have you believe is money is all you need for a great sound. most experienced players know that this is not true. The real test is how does it perform with a full band setup. A very well structured presentation never the less.
You could play both into this amp, you don't need looper. One could play into the channel one rhythm and other could play lead with reverb on second channel.
I bought one a couple of weeks ago. Blown away with it. Love the tone. Can't beat having 4 speakers pushing air. The "attenuator" makes home practice possible without annoying the neighbours and finally..... it weighs less than a small 1x12" valve combo. What's not to like?
Congrats man. I just ordered the Super tonight, after watching almost all the videos of TM Deluxe, Twin and Super. I hope I made the right decision, can't wait to get it! I have Les Paul customs and have been gigging with a Roland cube, I need a proper amp to make them really shine.
I just bought a used TMSR in mint condition. It’s pretty quiet until I get the volume up to around 8 then the noise level goes up quite a bit. Anyone else have this experience? It has great tone!
Ididnt find a vintage one in 5 years, so i gave a try to the tonemaster super reverb, and its very surprinsgly good in the room... it beats my blues deluxe esayly and even my real deluxe reverb in term if 3d projection etc
Iv got my super reverb tonemaster a years ago... since then i got rid of my tube tonemaster. Now we record without nouse...hiss tube breaking mud session etc... No reason to buy reissues tube are over
Fender just really followed the Roland Blues Cube line idea. The difference of course is these look authentic and Fender did a nicer job! A little overpriced though imo considering the costly components (tubes and transformers) aren't required
@@imCurveee I understand that too. Seems like they're trying to recoup all that R&D immediately though, hinting that they might not be making these for very long? Stretch it out a bit and bring the cost down several hundred. Make the money back over 5 years instead of the first year of sales.
One great sounding amp - helped of course by the quality of playing (I reckon this video has the best intro jam/solo ever). I'd buy one but I just know I'd make it sound sh*t.
FENDER! Please make Tone Master Head versions! Of the Deluxe or Twin. Or both. PLEASE! Would be amazing. Two of those through two 4x12 cabs would sound MASSIVE! :D :D And not be as heavy as two plexis.
The hype is real. I just brought mine home today, and my jaw dropped multiple times trying different guitars into it. This is not your old solid state modeling amp....this is on another level. My Princeton sits right next to it and I went back and forth multiple time trying to find a telltale sign of modeling.... so far I can't. It not only sounds great it FEELS right. Never had a non tube amp respond like this. This amp is absolutely brilliant.
@Nik Verschuren it doesn't, not at all. This is not what modeling amps have been in the past. You have to try it. It took me a while to plug into one for that same reason, but when I finally did it proved me wrong. I would bet hard money that 99% of people hearing this amp would not be able to tell. The remaining 1% would be Joe Bonomasa, Eric johnson, etc.....
I am a bit of a tube snob. However, that's the best sounding amp I ever heard ! 😁🥰😁 Wow ! Two questions. Does it have a FX loop and where did you get that beautiful Heritage Guitar ?
Awesome video that intro wow wow wow epic blus playing, anyone have an idea what the db was pulling at the start n at Andertons what antenuation mode did you guys have it in at that point ^_^ bit of a gutter the DB meter was covered on the attenuation bit for home use out of the 3 Tonemaster amps which does everyone think has the edge without getting next door banging on the walls lol I usually play my THR at about 70-75db
The processing power they put in those tone master amps is super impressive. Was thinking about a twin but wow the super reverb sounds incredibly good and....I absolutely LOVE 10" speakers. There is a warmth to them that a 12" just can't give you.
I have two Fender tube amps that have 4x10 Jenson Speakers, 45 watt 59' Bassman 410 LTD. (R.I.) and a nice 65 watt Hot Rod DeVille 410. No way does this modern transistor Tone Master Super Reverb sound better. I admit SS amps can at times sound as good as tube amps, because my old (single voiced )Fender Frontman 212R 100 watt SS amp (which is the older version of the Fender Champion 100 212 which had different amp voicings) which sounds excellent! Still SS is always missing the tube's natural distortion so they shall never sound exactly alike. With that thought I would still spend the extra 1/4 higher price for a tube amp over any SS amp that emulates the same name sake tube amp. -Peter age 71
I’ve just bought a Tonemaster Twin. It’s really quite amazing. The secret is the Class D power amp. I’d quite like to see more footage of this with pedals. Because the TM Twin takes pedals far better than the Deluxe IMHO
Hi I tried the Deluxe in a shop. But I took a chance and bought the blond TM Twin. I think the combination of a more pronounced midrange and the creamback speakers makes it a really good pedal platform amp. I use a Marshall in a box type drive and a tubescreamer and it handles them beautifully.
Some great playing and sounds. Hats off to Fender for the whole Tone Master range, which, if I ever gigged as a guitarist again, I'd definately invest in - I'm on bass duties at the moment with a Fender Rumble 200 and couldn't be happier. Have to disagree with The Captain's comment about plugins not being inspiring though. Now that I have sufficient experience with my DAW, the right interface and the right VST amps, I'm coming up with new guitar based material like never before. Sure, the presence four 10" speakers provide is a plus, but personally, in the confines of my home studio, I'm getting results which keep me well entertained and blow away other players.
Fender is making great strides with Digital Amps, even though my wee Fender LT 25 is not on the same level, I am still surprise the quality of the tones, if Fender put the effort in these practice amps, and I can only imagine how good these higher ones sound, Captain would it be safe to say this is the future of guitar amps, I would love to see a Amp like this in a smaller version affordable version,
Here a few years later giggling at these two realizing the amazement of how wattage affects volume; decibels are a logarithmic scale. A change in 10dB is precieved as "twice as loud". A factor of 10 applied to wattage equates to around 10 dB. So 0.5 to 5 watts doubles the volume, and 5 to 45 watts would approximately do the same.
@@GeoffSweet I guess not. I do appreciate Pete more than Chapman. Everything was metal and shred. That's great but I didn't get a good idea of what was being demoed.
I would like to have seen the dB meter in the right background, but the neck and tuning head of the bass guitar in the stand was blocking it. I do watch that meter during your vids. Thx! Have watched this vid multiple times as I zero in on an amp purchase decision vs. the Fender Twin.
BLOODY ELL ! BLIMEY ! last Andertons vid Lee said "No matter what digital doesn't do what tubes do ." Just sayin. Back in the day unless this amp was already in the club OR YOU HAD ROADIES , NOBODY was haulin a Super around. They were everywhere for sale .
I probably can t justify it but whether I sit in front of my transistor /digital fender or my super twin reverb with 15" es driven by 6L6es and a spring reverb , it makes a difference in my "experience". Hugly subjective and biased opinion here. Which doesn't mean I would pass on a chance to turn knobs on that one.
Interesting to watch Rhett Shull's comparison between this and the real thing. Obviously there are caveats when doing comparisons, which Rhett points out, but spoiler alert : the real thing killed the modelled amp. Wasn't even close.
Rhett is awesome, we love him. But we are going to get brand new versions of both amp and do that comparison. Anything vintage and played for years and years will sound better 99% of the time. :-). So new vs new is where we will take it next.
@@andertons Good plan! Yes, there were major caveats with his video so new versus new would be a great comparison. I hope Fender were watching though, as it would be great if the amps offered the option to select from a few different model captures - including that beauty that Rhett was playing! I'm pretty sure that it's possible to get incredibly close to the real thing these days. It's great that we live in a time, where we have this good digital option though as gigging with valve amps is a heavy lift and expensive to maintain! Look forward to hearing the comparison!
COME ON, Vox and Marshall!! Do the same thing with an AC30 and a Plexi!!! And Fender, we need a Princeton version as well as a tweed deluxe or bassman.
hey there guys.. how to you connect a looper without an effects loop? I'm seriously looking at one of these but want to plug in my pedal board and my looper.. what's the best way to do it? Thanks Rick
You need to convince me that my Fender CyberTwin SE can't keep up with these new Fender Tone Master amp releases. I say it can. It would be a really great comparison but I don't think you'll take it on. Are you chicken?
Little more bass and treble = more traditional fender sound? Hahahaha. Anyone with an old super reverb knows the bass gets turned way down.... cause the 4x10 makes a lot of bass.
I bought one ...its predominantly a bedroom guitar players dream. It doesn't cut it on the stage .. sound's mega different in every venue. Fades out on high notes on solos. Its not what you want or think .. don't waste time and money... dreadful thing... Mesa boogie make a few valve 4x10 combos...they are the best deal
I had a '63 SR I bought new in '63 when I was in HS (yeah, I'm old). I dragged that boat anchor through all of college, med school, and beyond but foolishly sold it in the mid 80s thinking I'd like a channel switching amp with a lead channel. Live and learn. What I'm hearing from Pete's playing makes me drool for one of these, though it's probably no longer appropriate for my current needs (being met w/ modelers/cab). But still.... this is so compelling!!!
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The intro tone is one of the best sounds that ever came out of an Andertons video. That is not an easy task.
Yea, no kidding.
Ofc you have all the tones in your mind to compare xD
And it’s highly probable your listening to this on your cell phone.
best guitar sound all over the internet, no question.
One of the best I've heard here, it's amazing really. Now can it push air?
Pete’s absolutely right! The Super Reverb is one of the best amps of all time. Great playing as always, Pete!
Its funny, that Super is just Princeton with big output stage. And it behaves completly different.
Sounds great Pete ..you have a great feel..could listen to you for hours
Simply one of the best amp demos on this channel. I wouldn’t expect this from a digital amp.
In 50 years Fender will develop a tube amp that can nail the exact sound of one of their digital tonemaster.
yeeesss, but its an mobilephone app then and can also emulate a tube marshall amp from the 60s
in 50 years they may have bought Marshall, and can do a Tone Master Plexi
It might show up in the kemper or mustang 40 lol
😆👍
Lol
That intro is absolutely the best one I've ever seen in an Anderton's video. Well done!
Well mine arrived today... It's crazy good!! I'm no tube fender amp purist. I do have a Blues Junior, and a Mesa Lonestar which I love. But this is something else... I got the fender clean I never knew I wanted!
Warning ⚠️ it's potentially VERY LOUD, use caution, you could destroy your hearing forever.
The attenuator does wonder
I really wanted the next Tone Master to be the Bassman (cue story about childhood dream amp that slipped through my fingers) but actually now I want/need this!
Nice video. Great playing. The reality is these days that digital amps and modelers have come a long way. I love tube amps. And don't love them at the same time. Tubes can sound good at one point but with environment changes not sound as good the next. They burn out, they make for a heavy amp, etc. Going the digital route cuts that stuff out in part.
Best sounding digital guitar product so far for me. Exactly what I was complaining about digital product is not there. There are no 99999999 amp/pedal/effects models and what not.
What there is, is sound from proper 4x10 with proper speakers, easy to use and instantly great sound.
No stupid 6 months of learning your modeler.
Reality is it takes less than a week to figure out a modeler. Then you're left with a superior product. If you buy this amp you'll either be buying or chugging around $1000's worth of pedals. Digital amp's with no effects are pretty much pointless these days.
@@ashcosmo3854 I dont label products as digital or analog. I label them good sounding and bad sounding. This one is damn good sounding ;).
@@stanislavmigra As are modellers lol
@@ashcosmo3854 yes, I see. You like modelers. Thats good for you. So far I have little luck with them. Was not happy with Axe FX and also was not happy with Helix.
Tone jurney continues.
Best sounding Tone Master yet in my humble opinion.
Holy hell, Petey's playing was inspired in this vid. That's what great gear does to you.
Awesome intro always enjoy watch Pete play. Fender makes excellent amps and guitars I think Fender should try and put an attenuated control into their new tube amps as well that would sell like crazy especially for people like me that live in a apartment/flat. I have a Boss Katana Artist MKii and love it I’m thinking about doing a wet/dry setup and was looking at one of these to add to my set up. Hope you guys are doing well, Cheers from New Mexico, USA.
Cap’n killing it during the outro 🤘🏻🦔
You Guys always Bring Cool Videos and The Jam Sessions Rock 👍👍🎶🎶🎸
Fender produced a beautiful modeler with its Mustang V2 amplis and pedalboard (first and last ones not so good, in my opinion). Not highly versatile in editing but well sounding! They are showing good efforts to get out from the crisis.
intro Jam........ Brilliant,, had to listen twice.. Amp. Amazing.. Messed me up, worse than a Lassie movie..
Pete's face at the very end - need a gif of that.
Great tones!
Blackest Day! Nice
$1250 for a chinese solid state amp with a fender logo. A few years ago, I bought a 62 Concert amp for $1200 on craig's list.
Better off buying a Quilter amp head, made in the USA.
I would love to go with Tone Masters...but I'm just too concerned with the longevity of the digital stuff...and will it still be repairable in ten years?
The good thing about fender releasing those amps model by model is that it gives time for the engineers to fine tune the algorithms for each model. IMO the secret of those amps is not dedicated processing power, but rather dedicated human power in modeling one by one
Fender is smashing it now, has adapted so well in so many areas
Pete's intro jam has to be my second favorite of all the videos I've watched; right behind the bit he played on the Joe Bonamassa Black Beauty video. Pete, please man - put out a blues masterclass.
Laurens Hammond invented spring reverb instead of using an echo room for his Hammond Organ invention. Probably as important as Leo Fender or Les Paul in the history of popular music of the 20th century but often overlooked.
I wish the Db meter wasn't blocked when showing the attenuation. That would have been helpful to know. I'm curious if it does 70db and sounds well or what the threshold is.
It was showing 90+ for some of the time.
I talk above 70db dude
@@Ottophil stop shouting then :-) I use a helix at home fro practice and have my monitors set to 70db and it's nice to not push my hearing. I have some ringing from being young and loud, I don't need to make it worse practicing.
Good question - I usually play in the 70 - 75 dB range which is comfortable for me, especially as I don’t have a dedicated playing room and need to be considerate of the family. That Pedal Show routinely go over 100 dB...!!
Me too, I play around 70 db, any louder and my neighbours complain.
How did fender pull this off? It's a digital amp with a soul.
One of the best sounding videos I've heard on the channel. And definitely the best sounding video with the TMSR on the Internet period. It is great to hear this amp in the hands of folks that know how to dial in a Super Reverb to sound great. Thanks a bunch for doing this and for putting it through the paces with all the guitars so that we can hear how well it responds with each. Awesome stuff. It seems like the amp inspired and brought out higher levels of playing from both of them than I have seen before. That's a testament to how good the amp is.
Facts
Any chance of a shootout between the tone masters and their tube counterparts? 😎
We wanted to but getting the tube ones is tough - I think our next delivery is about 6 months away!
@@andertons well.. it’s great that you’re thinking about it!!
@@andertons borrow them!
@@andertons When you do the comparison, consider playing through the same cab - I want to know how much of any difference is the amp itself, and how much is the neodymium speaker. A tonemaster with some standard speakers (adds 20-30 lbs), or a valve amp with the neodymium speakers (subtracts 20-30 lbs) might be the best all around.
@@Timthecommenter this has exactly the same speakers as the tube version.
The moment I hear fender made a bassman tonemaster will be the moment I buy one!🙌
It’s not far away i bet, likewise me too👍🏻
Yeah, and if they put the 59 in the name too, that'll be great!
Also hoping for this to be in the works
They just did!
@@thealissabilal well hot dang that is good news🙌
Nice demo. Sure would've been nice to actually see the DB meter, given the attenuator is such a big selling point. Not sure who's idea it was to park a bass guitar headstock right in front of the meter readout.
I’ve owned a Tone Master Deluxe Reverb since they first came out in September 2019 (I pre-ordered mine). Also, about mid 2021, I purchased a Tone Master Twin Reverb. I’ve been playing these amps constantly, using my Fender Baja 50’s Telecaster, and my gorgeous new Fender Vintera ‘70’s Telecaster. I can tell you, these amps are the real deal. The sound comes about 95% close to their tube counterparts. By the way, I also own two Fender Tube reissue amps: a ‘65 Twin Reverb and a ‘63 Vibroverb. I trust my ears, and these Tone Masters are something you need to play for yourself. You won’t regret it. You will be pleasantly surprised. Particularly if you’re into clean tones. I wish they would make a Silverface Tone Master now.
“I still play through my old super reverb, which is just the best amp that’s ever been” - Marcus King
You guys added a SPL meter but you keep covering it up! /sighs
Great review guys, first watched this a year ago, and it inspired me to take a dip into the digital world. having used tube amps for more years than i care to remember. i've owned my TMSR for a year now, and have to say I love it. I've always liked the sound of a 4X10 cab and also own a hotrod deville 4X10 which i also love but weighs a ton and is insanely loud. this is where the tone masters come into there own, so light to carry and the ability to get great sound at lower volumes. I gig with mine regularly and most of the time I keep it on the 5 Watt setting, that is more than enough volume for small to medium sized venues and gets start of breakup at about 5-6 on volume dial. Another great feature is the DI out, this sound great when recorded direct, would'nt bother with a mic ever again, the cabinet sim is superb. Before I got the TMSR I was using my Deluxe reverb for gigs, Really nice amps if you are into fender amp sound, and have to admit, i was a little unsure about using the tone master at first, but now i'm used to it, would not go back. Cant recommend this enough.
Bought one about a year ago to add to my Blonde TMDR . Love it!!!! Played tube amps for 30 years and still have a few, but the light weight and great sound at a low volumes as well make this a keeper for me!!!
@@jameshawkins7027How does the TMDR compare to the TMSR? I’m torn between the teo but can’t find a SR to try anywhere.
People need to stop comparing tone and decide if they like the tone of something for what it is, on their own. Like big boys and girls.
I love it when Pete gets hold of gear that he really likes. His already great playing becomes even better.
Pro tip! An XLR to 3.5 female cable and you can drive a set of headphones and it will sound great!
Every amp sounds different depending on who is playing. These sales videos would have you believe is money is all you need for a great sound. most experienced players know that this is not true. The real test is how does it perform with a full band setup.
A very well structured presentation never the less.
You could play both into this amp, you don't need looper. One could play into the channel one rhythm and other could play lead with reverb on second channel.
I’d love to buy a pint for whoever left the bass obscuring the db metre & drink it meself. 😟
You could do an entire series called "Noodling with Pete" where he does this for hours.... and I would watch all of them.
Yes please!!!
Have a look at their 'top shelf guitars' playlist, a lot of them are exactly that!
I made a CD for my car with hours of Rabea's jams and noodling. Pete's stuff is next on the list.
Waiting on this very amp,now .. send me one of those pink shirts!
Tone Master Tweed Deluxe is the one I'm waiting for.
I'd be all over the Bassman tonemaster....
ooooof i really hope that’s the next tonemaster release
I bought one a couple of weeks ago. Blown away with it. Love the tone. Can't beat having 4 speakers pushing air. The "attenuator" makes home practice possible without annoying the neighbours and finally..... it weighs less than a small 1x12" valve combo. What's not to like?
Congrats man. I just ordered the Super tonight, after watching almost all the videos of TM Deluxe, Twin and Super. I hope I made the right decision, can't wait to get it! I have Les Paul customs and have been gigging with a Roland cube, I need a proper amp to make them really shine.
@@rm-pc3544 Still loving mine.
I'll be doing the same shortly!
I just bought a used TMSR in mint condition. It’s pretty quiet until I get the volume up to around 8 then the noise level goes up quite a bit. Anyone else have this experience? It has great tone!
Made in China?
FFS Fender, do a freaking TWEED already!
Ididnt find a vintage one in 5 years, so i gave a try to the tonemaster super reverb, and its very surprinsgly good in the room... it beats my blues deluxe esayly and even my real deluxe reverb in term if 3d projection etc
Creamy Warm Sparkling Fender Goodness Via P-90 Pups Love Love Love it.
Iv got my super reverb tonemaster a years ago... since then i got rid of my tube tonemaster.
Now we record without nouse...hiss tube breaking mud session etc...
No reason to buy reissues tube are over
Fender just really followed the Roland Blues Cube line idea. The difference of course is these look authentic and Fender did a nicer job!
A little overpriced though imo considering the costly components (tubes and transformers) aren't required
They do feel slightly overpriced but you're paying for the Fender name and the R&D that went into these amps, which I understand.
@@imCurveee I understand that too. Seems like they're trying to recoup all that R&D immediately though, hinting that they might not be making these for very long? Stretch it out a bit and bring the cost down several hundred. Make the money back over 5 years instead of the first year of sales.
One great sounding amp - helped of course by the quality of playing (I reckon this video has the best intro jam/solo ever).
I'd buy one but I just know I'd make it sound sh*t.
My favorite playing from Pete ever! Great tone, amp and all that, but that intro playing was really great!
FENDER! Please make Tone Master Head versions! Of the Deluxe or Twin. Or both. PLEASE! Would be amazing. Two of those through two 4x12 cabs would sound MASSIVE! :D :D And not be as heavy as two plexis.
Yes!! Great idea!
15:04 - if Rob were here and it was 2012, someone would have totally busted in and chopped them in half…
The hype is real. I just brought mine home today, and my jaw dropped multiple times trying different guitars into it. This is not your old solid state modeling amp....this is on another level. My Princeton sits right next to it and I went back and forth multiple time trying to find a telltale sign of modeling.... so far I can't. It not only sounds great it FEELS right. Never had a non tube amp respond like this. This amp is absolutely brilliant.
But i cant shake the feeling off of me that it still sound digital 😑
@Nik Verschuren it doesn't, not at all. This is not what modeling amps have been in the past. You have to try it. It took me a while to plug into one for that same reason, but when I finally did it proved me wrong. I would bet hard money that 99% of people hearing this amp would not be able to tell. The remaining 1% would be Joe Bonomasa, Eric johnson, etc.....
@@gkott78 Thanks for the reply, now need to make the choiche between the deluxe,twin & super. Makes it even more difficult.
I am a bit of a tube snob. However, that's the best sounding amp I ever heard ! 😁🥰😁 Wow ! Two questions. Does it have a FX loop and where did you get that beautiful Heritage Guitar ?
Awesome video that intro wow wow wow epic blus playing, anyone have an idea what the db was pulling at the start n at Andertons what antenuation mode did you guys have it in at that point ^_^ bit of a gutter the DB meter was covered on the attenuation bit for home use out of the 3 Tonemaster amps which does everyone think has the edge without getting next door banging on the walls lol I usually play my THR at about 70-75db
Pete just sold every Fender TM Super Reverb on the planet... and a ton of Heritage H-530 guitars.
The processing power they put in those tone master amps is super impressive. Was thinking about a twin but wow the super reverb sounds incredibly good and....I absolutely LOVE 10" speakers. There is a warmth to them that a 12" just can't give you.
Thats the opposite of my experience
@@shckltnebay You have to have more than one 10" speaker. By themselves they aren't that great.
@@craigsurface9147 Right
Makes me wanna sell my Nextone for this....
As the captain mentioned ... that intro solo was mindblowing sweet ... so tastful playing here ... fluid gold ... btw the amp is amazing too.
The physics is for every doubling of watts you get about 3db of volume increase. That’s why the 1w to 5w is quite dramatic
I've heard Pete play through so many different pieces of gear, but seriously the inrto piece is something special
I have two Fender tube amps that have 4x10 Jenson Speakers, 45 watt 59' Bassman 410 LTD. (R.I.) and a nice 65 watt Hot Rod DeVille 410. No way does this modern transistor Tone Master Super Reverb sound better. I admit SS amps can at times sound as good as tube amps, because my old (single voiced )Fender Frontman 212R 100 watt SS amp (which is the older version of the Fender Champion 100 212 which had different amp voicings) which sounds excellent! Still SS is always missing the tube's natural distortion so they shall never sound exactly alike. With that thought I would still spend the extra 1/4 higher price for a tube amp over any SS amp that emulates the same name sake tube amp. -Peter age 71
Well it sounds good recorded but so does my £200 Blackstar..... how does it sound in the room to human ears is the question.
It's sounds awesome!!!!!!! It will peal your wig back man!
Would this be a good amp for jazz fusion type stuff? Does it take pedals good?
Yes and most definitely
SHOCKING intro jam. Just amazing Pete.
I have this amp and its the best amp that I have ever owned.
Likewise
That's definitely not enough of that
I’ve just bought a Tonemaster Twin. It’s really quite amazing. The secret is the Class D power amp. I’d quite like to see more footage of this with pedals. Because the TM Twin takes pedals far better than the Deluxe IMHO
Did you buy the classic or the blonde model? How does it work better with pedals? Thinking of crossing the line.
Hi
I tried the Deluxe in a shop. But I took a chance and bought the blond TM Twin. I think the combination of a more pronounced midrange and the creamback speakers makes it a really good pedal platform amp. I use a Marshall in a box type drive and a tubescreamer and it handles them beautifully.
Some great playing and sounds. Hats off to Fender for the whole Tone Master range, which, if I ever gigged as a guitarist again, I'd definately invest in - I'm on bass duties at the moment with a Fender Rumble 200 and couldn't be happier. Have to disagree with The Captain's comment about plugins not being inspiring though. Now that I have sufficient experience with my DAW, the right interface and the right VST amps, I'm coming up with new guitar based material like never before. Sure, the presence four 10" speakers provide is a plus, but personally, in the confines of my home studio, I'm getting results which keep me well entertained and blow away other players.
Fender is making great strides with Digital Amps, even though my wee Fender LT 25 is not on the same level, I am still surprise the quality of the tones, if Fender put the effort in these practice amps, and I can only imagine how good these higher ones sound, Captain would it be safe to say this is the future of guitar amps, I would love to see a Amp like this in a smaller version affordable version,
Here a few years later giggling at these two realizing the amazement of how wattage affects volume; decibels are a logarithmic scale. A change in 10dB is precieved as "twice as loud". A factor of 10 applied to wattage equates to around 10 dB.
So 0.5 to 5 watts doubles the volume, and 5 to 45 watts would approximately do the same.
"Exchanging" Chappers...for Pete....was THE best decision you guys could have made...
chappers blindfold tests were great
What happened to him that he isn't on there anymore? I remember watching when it was originally on his channel.
@@paulmoore7964 meh....Pete's are better as he is much more well-rounded player.
@@elmariachi451 it's like re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic....does it really matter?
@@GeoffSweet I guess not. I do appreciate Pete more than Chapman. Everything was metal and shred. That's great but I didn't get a good idea of what was being demoed.
Only way to play a fender amp is 6-6-6-5 reverb 4 lol
Yo man that intro was quite moving.
Why would someone choose a Super reverb over a Twin Reverb?
This one has better speakers
I'm praying that one day, they make one that's modeled after the Super Sonic and has an FX loop. But as always, great demo!
Maybe you can take a look at the super champ x2 👍
Tonemaster Deluxe Reverb 23 lbs
Twin Reverb 33 lbs
Super Reverb 35 lbs
‘59 Bassman 40 lbs
Lee's face during that intro was beautiful, he was feeling it and loving every note, as were we!
I would like to have seen the dB meter in the right background, but the neck and tuning head of the bass guitar in the stand was blocking it. I do watch that meter during your vids. Thx!
Have watched this vid multiple times as I zero in on an amp purchase decision vs. the Fender Twin.
BLOODY ELL ! BLIMEY ! last Andertons vid Lee said "No matter what digital doesn't do what tubes do ." Just sayin. Back in the day unless this amp was already in the club OR YOU HAD ROADIES , NOBODY was haulin a Super around. They were everywhere for sale .
I probably can t justify it but whether I sit in front of my transistor /digital fender or my super twin reverb with 15" es driven by 6L6es and a spring reverb , it makes a difference in my "experience". Hugly subjective and biased opinion here.
Which doesn't mean I would pass on a chance to turn knobs on that one.
Interesting to watch Rhett Shull's comparison between this and the real thing. Obviously there are caveats when doing comparisons, which Rhett points out, but spoiler alert : the real thing killed the modelled amp. Wasn't even close.
Rhett is awesome, we love him. But we are going to get brand new versions of both amp and do that comparison. Anything vintage and played for years and years will sound better 99% of the time. :-). So new vs new is where we will take it next.
@@andertons Good plan! Yes, there were major caveats with his video so new versus new would be a great comparison. I hope Fender were watching though, as it would be great if the amps offered the option to select from a few different model captures - including that beauty that Rhett was playing! I'm pretty sure that it's possible to get incredibly close to the real thing these days. It's great that we live in a time, where we have this good digital option though as gigging with valve amps is a heavy lift and expensive to maintain! Look forward to hearing the comparison!
He didn't EQ properly
COME ON, Vox and Marshall!! Do the same thing with an AC30 and a Plexi!!! And Fender, we need a Princeton version as well as a tweed deluxe or bassman.
Does it overdrive at all when pushing the volume of the amp up as the valve version would?
Nice video gentlemen and good review. I still feel Fender has better amps than this experiment...
Damn. I think that Vintera Road Worn '60s Strat looks fantastic in that colour. 😳 Mine's in LPB, but that looks way better.
hey there guys.. how to you connect a looper without an effects loop? I'm seriously looking at one of these but want to plug in my pedal board and my looper.. what's the best way to do it? Thanks
Rick
If pete was starting out in the 60s he would have bean as big as clapton 🤟
You need to convince me that my Fender CyberTwin SE can't keep up with these new Fender Tone Master amp releases. I say it can. It would be a really great comparison but I don't think you'll take it on. Are you chicken?
Cyber twin was cool amp and yes it can compete.
I know it's not "vintage" but I'd kill for a loop on this line. It's not like 1965 amps had power scaling and xlr IR outs...
A perfect amp by the look and sound of it ❤
Little more bass and treble = more traditional fender sound? Hahahaha.
Anyone with an old super reverb knows the bass gets turned way down.... cause the 4x10 makes a lot of bass.
I bought one ...its predominantly a bedroom guitar players dream.
It doesn't cut it on the stage .. sound's mega different in every venue. Fades out on high notes on solos. Its not what you want or think .. don't waste time and money... dreadful thing... Mesa boogie make a few valve 4x10 combos...they are the best deal
Crap! That really soundz great.
Have to point out that fender did do the "everything" digital amp in the mustang series.
I had a '63 SR I bought new in '63 when I was in HS (yeah, I'm old). I dragged that boat anchor through all of college, med school, and beyond but foolishly sold it in the mid 80s thinking I'd like a channel switching amp with a lead channel. Live and learn. What I'm hearing from Pete's playing makes me drool for one of these, though it's probably no longer appropriate for my current needs (being met w/ modelers/cab). But still.... this is so compelling!!!
Did he say there's "Lollar" P-90's on that Heritage ? They sound fantastic.