Amazon EXPOSED! LOTR: The Rings of Power is FAKE Tolkien | The Fandom is Undefeated
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- Amazon's the Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power San Diego Comic-Con trailer was another scripted DISASTER for the triliion dollar company. With the release of yet another teaser trailer, we still know little of the story and lot about diversity and Inclusion. We also recieved confirmation that all the worst concerns of fandom were true. This is subverted FAKE Tolkien.
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"We made a promise to ourselves at the beginning of the process that we weren't going to put any of our own politics, our own messages or our own themes into these movies. ... In a way, we were trying to make these films for him [Tolkien], not for ourselves." - Peter Jackson
“It felt only natural to us that an adaptation of Tolkien’s work would reflect what the world actually looks like.” - Amazon Executive Producer Lindsey Weber
Tells you all you need to know.
Cause thats what fantasy is about. Making it reall so fantasy is just a reallity... ffs Lindsay what's wrong with you?
Death to the slaves of the golden throne! The lord of the rings was Tolkiens life work, We cannot allow it to be tainted by such blatant heresy!
@@sanescobar2369 they have been raised in a world without consequences. thats why they can tell the difference between facts and fiction.
to them, global warming is an issue, that can be solved via twitter and facebook
Lindsay Weber is the Kathleen Kennedy of Amazon
But the world doesn't even look like that only in the sick, depraved minds and imaginations of these bioleninist heathens
The fear in the show runners eyes that they know they’ve messed up big time and ruined their careers is glorious.
Walking dead, all of them :)
It may indeed be a grrrrrrreat adaptation... It just won't be a faithful adaptation.
Peter Jackson nailed it when he put Tolkien's name at the front of opening credits, and he put his name at the end credits. And every time I see his directors credit at the end, I just think... It's right were it deserves to be after realizing Tolkien's world. And he (Jackson) earned it.
I think they look pretty smug. They're proud of themselves
They morbed
Even worse when they admitted the show is NOT" canonical".
"Tolkien never specifically said Galadriel and Muriel don't scissor" I almost spit out my coffee
Well, aren't you lucky? I on the other hand have tea sprayed all over my monitor.
@@YiotisTheGnome you are still quite lucky. My hand went numb and my green tea came crashing down, that was my favorite cup
If it's any consolation to you, your comment has just reminded me of the tea I poured half an hour ago. I won't drink oil instead of tea thanks to your sacrifice :D
i spat out my coffee just thinking about it later...
Well, he never specifically said that Sauron wasn't trying to conquer Middle Earth because he thought everyone should wear more pink tutus either.
When Galadriel said “it’s morbbin time” just before she beat Thanos, my whole family cried. I especially liked when the orc was transitioning into an elf and was fighting for trans orcs rights against the bigots of middle earth
Right on but I know it can be hard to keep straight(ew) but you meant trans-elves.
Um did you just assume her gender!?!?? Galadriel clearly identifies as a demi girl ace non binary!!!!!! DONT ERASE LGBTQAINLINDALË+ ELFS!!!! Full stop.
Aren't orcs deformed elves? So shouldn't it be transitioned back to an elf? :p
@@RolandL1 lol XD
@@RolandL1 i see why they are the evil ones then
As a female fan of Tolkien, I find it SUPER patronising when the actors get up there and talk about, "the females have their own agency and don't do as the men command." as if it's a gift they're giving to us. Clearly they ignorantly forgot about nearly all of the female characters in Tolkien's works who already embody these traits. Lùthien, Èowyn, Galadriel (NOT this version) and so many more. Even fricken Ungoliant!
And not only that, as a female myself I absolutely despise that in order to make a "powerful woman" they have to deprive the character of her femininity and make her appear and act in a more masculine way. It's like they're telling us that in order to be strong a woman must "become man", what a joke.
Luthien stood her ground against Sauron himself.... While he's In the form of the fiercest werewolf in history, mind you.
*_Then, she strolls right into Morgoth's stronghold and uses her (feminine) allure and power to put Morgoth himself to sleep. Overpowering his attempts to resist_*
*For all those "actually, it was Morgoth" comments: yes, it was. AFTER Sauron. So, BOTH Dark Lords. Making it/my point all the more impressive. She looked into the eyes of both And lived to tell the tale. And she didn't have to do the fighting herself, either. Yet stands as a remarkably courageous character. One of the most, in fact. Few deeds can even compare*
Amazon: scrap that boring, sexist nonsense give her a sword and an intolerably smug attitude then have her leading weakling cowardly men in battles! Girl power!
We already have one of our new female characters of color who is going to utterly brutalize Sauron with her bare hands until he begs for mercy....as a basic human female, no less. And anyone who doesn't adore that is simply intimidated by strong women as we all know and we'll all say in unison.
Yes it must be bloody annoying for you... It pisses me off.
I'm not even sure why they think we want or need an equal number of female characters anyway. The few that are there shine more because the pool isn't diluted.
They do it every time.
They ignore the past so they can act like they're doing some sort of 'first', it reeks of activist desperation.
The part where Elrond´s black daughter introduced herself with her preferred pronouns and reminded us that we must fight the Numenorian Nationalists still brings tears to my eyes, so faithful to Tolkien lore.
I want to minecraft myself after having read that.
I realise you're joking but you're not far off, after all, Tar-Miriel is a descendant of Elros.
I know. It was so brave, so stunning. And the moment Drogon finally flies in and burns all the Harfoot Orks, amazing. I can't even can't even ...
It's just.....amazing. This will really be one of the shows ever made!
First of all how can you be sure of Elrond's pronouns??
At first I was disappointed, now I'm simply disgusted at the disrespect of the lore,specially after the comic-con interviews.
I'm disturb there's an abundance of clapping seals in that panel and no one like that red shirt guy on Diablo Immorral panel.
@@NormanReaddis 🙏
same here. They know exactly what they are doing, and trying to play the victim by blaming fans for being hateful and prejudgemental. This is really disgusting.
Couldn't have described it better. I was disappointed and mildly annoyed, now I'm absolutely disgusted.
I'm neither disappointed nor annoyed anymore. I literally do not recognise this as anything to do with Tolkien, it has gone so far beyond the realms of what we would have allowed to still have it distinguised in any such light. It is some sad agenda driven pretend game of thrones tripe
That moment when Galadriel said "Orcs are as unique as breakfast tacos" shook me to my core. Give these people an Oscar already, best adaptation of GRRM's Taxi Driver hands down
it wasnt the taxi driver, it only looks that way, because he is holding the spear like a hoplite. i understand the confusion, its hard to keep track of all the finer details
"Tolkien never denied the existence of laser blasters. It is OBVIOUS that Earendil's flying ship had laser blaster which killed Ancalagon."
"Earendil's flying ship" clearly implies that he pilots the Death Star.
Don't forget that he farted rainbows. Tolkien never denied that either 😂
I would love to see Ancalagon in a proper adaptation...
Balerion from ASOIAF could eat Drogon in one bite. And Ancalagon could eat Balerion in one bite. The most epic dragon , monstrous in size and destructive power.
We are not allowed such epic stories anymore.
@@Tauramehtar Ancalagon would be extremely Hard to adapt to film, even Tolkien didn't use him that much.
"cap marvel" did the most work. By luring the great dragon to Earend proclamin
Cm- Iam taking the party to you
Earendil - u sob!
Watching the cast sit on the stage sniffing their own farts was almost as cringe as the superfans video.
I cannot watch them. All I want is them on a gallow.
Hearing seals clap is disturbing as well. I hope there's a red shirt guy in there like in that Diablo Immortal panel.
It really really really really was.
At least the superfans vid had someone peeing on the wall in a corner to add just that extra bit of prestige.
I kept expecting "Le chic Afrique" to break out into, "I'm Every Woman". 💃
Hearing the showrunners and actors talk about the show filled me with dangerous levels of cringe. This is gonna be the most expensive political ad/bad fanfiction in all human history!
The money sunk into Star Trek and Star Wars fanfic by corporations might just be comparable.
coming from a brownie xd
In order for it to be 'fanfiction', the people who write it have to be 'fans'.
The showrunners have spoken at length about how they need to 'fix' Tolkien in order for it to live up to their standards.
You'll read actual fanfiction that treats the source material with more respect than this. It's shameful.
See, what Amazon has done here, is they've made a Billion dollar fanfic that wouldn't be highly regarded even on Tumblr, where such things belong.
I cannot wait to see the aftermath. I am gonna be rock hard all of September.
I'm guessing their ESG score increase will be worth the dumpster fire to them. They are checking every box with this one.
Being an actual huge middle earth/ lotr/ hobbit/ Tolkien fan. I am so fucking happy to see the fanbase of all walks of life come together to hold the line against the nonsense that Amazon seems to be putting out with this show. Why the hell does Elrond have to look so douchey, also glad I'm not the only one that sees Don Lemon when I see that "elf". There's more but I'd be here all day. Great video, Peace.
Yes that’s a good point. As much as people are focusing on the whole black elf thing (which is nonsense and has no basis in Tolkien’s work), all of the elf casting is awful. How do you read about these graceful, eternally youthful beings and then cast these people? They look like they should be working at a bank or be part of a local city counsel or something, not an ethereal race possessing otherworldly skill and beauty.
I laughed so hard when you pointed out all the female dwarfs from the Hobbit movies while that chick sat there looking smug about "being the first female dwarf we've seen on screen". Just goes to show neither the reporter, the actress or the production has even watched the Hobbit movies.
It's, at most, 2 days character research to watch all the films if reading is too much to do. How little did she research her character in the genre, original works and existing award winning adaptations?
The Hobbit films were so shit on. Even the "fans" are still critical of them today. Don't act like they're paragons of cinema. If asked, virtually every Tolkein fan whose watched both trilogies would tell you LotR is superior in almost every way. Now, having said that, she IS the first female dwarf in a lead, speaking role. The dwarven women in the Hobbit films were literally in the opening scenes when Smaug attacks Erebor, and that's it. You gonna blame Jackson for not including more dwarf women? For not giving a dwarf woman a speaking role. He created a female Elf, he could've created a female dwarf! We should all be so angry at Jackson for not being more inclusive and sensitive to dwarven female's roles in the Hobbit books.
@@baconghoti Because her character doesn't exist in the books? There are virtually no female dwarves, specifically named or referred to, in Tolkein's writings save Dis, mother of Kili and Fili. She is not playing Dis, so I ask in all seriousness, how the fuck is she supposed to do research on a character that doesn't exist?
Everything in the series is for selection:
strong and independent women (who are just strong, but no one shows even the minimum path of their strength formation) moreover, they lack female strength, it is hypertrophied male - testesterone!
Gay and lesbian couples whose history is more important to Amazon than the history and events in the world (although fans came for stories from the world) black hobbits, black elves who are NOT canon, no matter what anyone says, according to the law of the Middle-earth world, white elves are their physiology, they cannot be black, even considering that it is fantasy...Do you hear?
Follow the thoughts: "even considering that this is a fantasy, elves can only be white." Speaking of whites, I don't mean skin color, but European or Slavic appearance.
An elf, according to the laws of Tolkien's world, cannot look like a popuas sponge from the desert. I hope the blacks are not offended? It's just that half of you are against it too. But Amazon apparently lacks imagination and does not need a Middle-earth story.
They once again decided to shove COMPULSIVELY cram a story about oppressed minorities, which are trumpeted everywhere and when the viewer, tired of such an obsessive agenda, wants to relax and immerse himself in an interesting story about beautiful and proud elves, fighting and seasoned dwarves, bloodthirsty orcs, noble knights, vile robbers, as well as powerful magicians with their intrigues...what does the viewer see?
Again, the summons, which he did not ask for, she is already everywhere, completely ugly and not wise in the eyes of elves, intimidated, not fighting dwarves and hobbits that are not distinguishable from them at all (just nothing at all!) and the story is not about a world that is different from ours about the projection of events from ours. How convenient it is for Amazon to offend everyone with racists and haters, even if the criticism adequately says that people were waiting for the wrong thing and this is not the canon according to the laws of Middle-earth
@@grayden4138 So??? She said it, and the reporter said, "You are the first female dwarf we've seen on screen". And that's simply not true no matter how bad the Hobbit films might be.
Cool, so we can drop all the "Tolkien" and "LOTR" phrasing from this unrelated project called Rings of Power that just happens to have characters and places with the same name as stuff from Tolkien's work. Right?
It's well-funded fan-fiction. (with a monopoly protected by law)
No, Money
Right 🥱
*I Can't Believe It's Not Tolkien*
@@Yusuke_Denton *hate fiction
Can't wait for a male Charlie's Angels reboot because seeing fictional characters in my own gender is so empowering! I would collapse otherwise ! OMG!
I'm looking forward to seeing the first white male play Malcolm X. I hope I see it in my lifetime
@@mkhachfe I’m still holding on to the possibility of a white man being recast as black Panther! It must happen! It would be so great! We’ve never had an African king played by a white man before!
I cant wait for the gender swapped Wizard of Oz remake myself... also Toto should be a cat
Three hot imbeciles walking around in speedos, oh yeah... 👌
@@mkhachfe that would be cultural appropriation. Because us libs are totally 100% focussed on logical consistency ;)
This show is going to make me completely forgive all the fluff and fumbling Jackson did with the Hobbit and that’s not something I thought I would ever say
Yes exactly- I've already forgiven him for The Hobbit.
the star wars sequels did the same to the prequels. jar jar isnt so bad, when you have seen something worse.
That was also mostly the stuiods pressuring him to drag it out into 3 movies. Even with all the stress and weight of expectations he still tried to his best to give something halfway decent.
And some of the blame also falls on Guillermo del Toro
This is going to be a dumpster fire. My entertainment for this show will be watching you and other content creators destroy every episode. You all will be far more entertaining than this show appears to be.
And the good news is I won't have to watch any of it and still get to enjoy Nerdrotic videos.
@@SJO2112 indeed, it will be fun
Right? I'm going to need a lot more popcorn. 🍿
At least its a win win now. Either we get a good show or a good set of Nerdrotic and FNT videos about it.
I feel sorry for Nerdrotic as He will be forced to watch the episodes to be able to criticize the series, to explain no all non watchers that is as shifty as it seems .
“Whatever actual criticism audiences may have about Amazon’s fanfiction not looking or feeling like a part of the Lord of the Rings world from the movies should now be eased with the Comic-Con trailer”
That’s an awful lot of words to just say that you’re not really a fan of Tolkien 😆
To me it reads like "THIS is what you should think. NOW! GULP IT DOWN"!
That's an awful lot of words to say you never learned to read.
@@spock_elvis Thanks for telling me you’re not actually a fan without telling me you’re not really a fan 🤣
Even the trailer admitted that it’s “based” on Tolkien’s works, ie, it’s fanfiction
@@yvonnesolomon3357 Thanks for telling me that you actually never learned to read without telling me you really never learned to read.
I don't even know where to start here... do you know that every movie that claims to be based on a book is based on a book? AHA! HAVE AT YOU! I CLEVERLY DEFEATED YOUR ARGUMENT! JUST TRY TO PROVE ME WRONG!
tell me without telling so you never read any Tolkien's works.
Five things we learned:
1) It will be LOTR's The Last Jedi;
2) Will not respect the Lore;
3) It doesn't have a Sauron as a (pseudo) Promethean figure doing religious engineering and technocratic theocracy in the south and east of Middle-earth, but an Eminem;
4) It lacks true diversity, as Tolkien already stated that he was inspired by Ethiopia + Saracens for Harad and Asia (China, Japan) for Rhûn and eastern Middle-earth. And they don't explore or expand the map of Middle-earth. They prefer a black dwarf, a black elf and a black hobbit;
5) It will be based on our divisive modern politics and the detestable nihilistic world of our times. Instead of showing Galadriel as a "philosopher queen", they go down the feminist path of "a strong woman needs to wear armor and beat a man"
Actually the Easterlings are Persian
The last one really annoys me because Tolkien was openly against basing his story on the politics and real world situations of the time.
@@kellerblair2952 well the term easterlings often covers quite a few kingdoms in the east so you get a partical credit for that answer
About 1): The Last Jedi is a great movie, The Rings of Power is going to suck. Big difference.
@@juusovuolle8251 they wear billowing robes, with bronzed lamellar armour, famed for their axes and chariots 🤣🤣 how much more Persian do you need them to be?
We're doing exactly what Tolkien taught us: standing up against darkness and corruption and fighting for what's good in this world. Amazon's treachery will not prevail.
It’s wild that so many people today just flat out lie straight to your face and then get mad when you call them out on it.
Professional victims take their jobs incredibly serious.
I don't know if a more irritable behavior exists but hey they're plowing straight under every time they open their sh*t-for-mouths, borderline psychos
They're ideological agents.
Everything in the series is for selection:
strong and independent women (who are just strong, but no one shows even the minimum path of their strength formation) moreover, they lack female strength, it is hypertrophied male - testesterone!
Gay and lesbian couples whose history is more important to Amazon than the history and events in the world (although fans came for stories from the world) black hobbits, black elves who are NOT canon, no matter what anyone says, according to the law of the Middle-earth world, white elves are their physiology, they cannot be black, even considering that it is fantasy...Do you hear?
Follow the thoughts: "even considering that this is a fantasy, elves can only be white." Speaking of whites, I don't mean skin color, but European or Slavic appearance.
An elf, according to the laws of Tolkien's world, cannot look like a popuas sponge from the desert. I hope the blacks are not offended? It's just that half of you are against it too. But Amazon apparently lacks imagination and does not need a Middle-earth story.
They once again decided to shove COMPULSIVELY cram a story about oppressed minorities, which are trumpeted everywhere and when the viewer, tired of such an obsessive agenda, wants to relax and immerse himself in an interesting story about beautiful and proud elves, fighting and seasoned dwarves, bloodthirsty orcs, noble knights, vile robbers, as well as powerful magicians with their intrigues...what does the viewer see?
Again, the summons, which he did not ask for, she is already everywhere, completely ugly and not wise in the eyes of elves, intimidated, not fighting dwarves and hobbits that are not distinguishable from them at all (just nothing at all!) and the story is not about a world that is different from ours about the projection of events from ours. How convenient it is for Amazon to offend everyone with racists and haters, even if the criticism adequately says that people were waiting for the wrong thing and this is not the canon according to the laws of Middle-earth
@@skynet9455 well said. Agreed totally. And I hate these amazon assholes so much for doing this - and their efforts to backpedal and retract their own statements is fucking hilarious how desperate they are getting, even when WE ALL KNOW none of our criticism will actually change ANYTHING because the people who made this are scumbags who HATE JRR Tolkien, HATE his world, and HATE his fans, and want to make this "The last Jedi: Lord of the Rings edition" to attack us on the Tolkien front like they have done on the Star Wars and Star Trek(and many, many more formerly good franchises) fronts.
Anyone reading this: if you aren't ALREADY boycotting amazon and woke hollyweird, START NOW. Any sort of support for these fucking ASSHOLES will just encourage them to make more of this vile, evil intentioned vandalism of what we love. And make no mistake; they KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING and its FULLY intentional. Sjw communist scumbags are full of so much spite and bitterness and are brainwashed into directing the frustration of their pathetic lives at "The White Man" "The Patriarchy"(Whatever that means) and so on. And we are categorized as "racists" and "xenophobic bigots" and all the other "Ist-O-Phobe" stupid ass commie "insults" because we oppose what they are doing, not because any of us actually are those things. The REAL "racists"(I HATE using that word even for our enemies; it was invented by motherfucking LEON TROTSKY go look it up) are the ASSHOLES in HOLLYWEIRD and at Amazon and similar places, who try to disguise their Anti-White Race hatred using various pseudonyms like "Critical race theory" and "Feminism" and "black lives matter" and so on. In fact Ive never seen people full of such VILE racial based HATRED as the SJW commie SCUM are.
That's why my friend and I joke around telling each other, "My perception is your reality".
Instead of being furious of how bad this show is going to be, all we can really do is laugh; the fandom was right all along and we're still undefeated! HAIL!
Unfortunately a lot of those laughing will watch anyway. The only victory is no views not bad reviews
You people are not undefeated you are still getting trashed like this show lol
That's partially false, we can also cancel our prime subscriptions the month that this s*** show airs to send a message.
@@GuitarTunings33 they already have your money...
@@eyezj7412 .... Ok... What does that mean? So... May as well give them more? I care about Tolkien. And I don't want to see satanist idiots use him for divisive propaganda. They'll fake good reviews and views. Good luck.
"What I love about the writers on this show, that they have given every woman, every female character, such agency. We don't serve the men around us. We have a story line in our own right" It's almost like they think this is happening for the first time- have they not met any of Tolkien's women characters. Eowyn for example.
This is what always happens with woke products: Whenever they introduce something, they say it's always the first time ever. Even though it never is. Presumably, they want to get credit for being brave and original and score woke points, so they just pretend that all the other previous instances never happened.
agency is not given, its achieved by the individual. If its given to you, its not yours. Ironic...
@@stunningbrave5819 hilarious because in the minds of most of these people they would assume you need permission
Its amazing how many firsts a single thing can have. They could make another black female dwarf, and call it a first.
Eowyn literally serves her kind but okay fake fan lolol
One thing that has fascinated me, in all the Rings of Power trailers I've watched, is the lack of Dwarvish or Elvish dialogue lines. Not once they used any of the languages Tolkien created for his world. One would think they'd use them even as a smokescreen to divert attention, or as minor endearment. 🤷🏻♂️
that would require them to put time and effort into learning these languages and then teaching the actors how to pronounce it correctly. they are not competent enough to do so. plus it would alienate the normies that this show is trying to appeal to. since game of thrones fantasy tv series and movies arent made for fantasy fans, theyre made for the lowest common denominator of society, which doesnt like reading subtitles for made up languages.
What also fascinates me is the fact there is a black elf with buzzed hair and like 4 black dwarves and Hobbits as well as a persian/indian elf. Tf? Tolkien literally said that hobbiton is based off of Britain. Since when did sub saharan Africans come from Britain?
@@GoodFellasPizza08 bro thats wacist
@@TheSuperappelflap that's not racist. Tolkien based the entire thing around the European mythology. And like the mythology are the people also based of Europeans. And how do Europeans look? Right. White as snow! So should every creature in middle earth look like a European. With the exception of haradrim. Easterlings. Or the wildlings. Who are brown skinned. Yellow skinned. Or orange/red skinned. So. If you want to use a black person in the show. Make him a haradrim. Not a nuemorian. Dwarf. Or elve.
@@xaga8794 bro that was a joke lol
“YOU! SHALL NOT! PASS!” - Every LOTR fan to Amazon
GO BACK TO THE SHADOW!
“You… have elected the way of…. PAIN”
- Saruman.
RIP Christopher Lee
The way is shut. It was made by those who are fans, and the fans keep it. The way is shut.
@@MJ-92 💯
This time I'll be rooting for the Balrog, sorry
It's very telling that they chose not Tolkien's birthday, or any other day, but his DEATH'S ANNIVERSARY for the premiere of this... thing. Plus with a billion dollars spent and best ever showrunners hired for this job (xD) this smells like a giant money laundering scheme.
They could've easily waited 3 weeks for Hobbit Day, 22nd of September.
@@GeraltofRivia22 12th of "September " by shire reckoning.
It's his death anniversary... holy #&^#... I just looked it up. This is saying everything.
They've made sure we shall hear their message loud and clear: we're dead dinosaurs of the past, we have to get along with them or die out. And we've been told many lies about middle earth. Those clowns are pathetic
That’s actually very disturbing, on an esoteric level. Definitely not coincidence, Tolkien said evil cannot create, only corrupt
The scene where Frodo tells Hermione she has to sort out her priorities was amazing.
Everything in the series is for selection:
strong and independent women (who are just strong, but no one shows even the minimum path of their strength formation) moreover, they lack female strength, it is hypertrophied male - testesterone!
Gay and lesbian couples whose history is more important to Amazon than the history and events in the world (although fans came for stories from the world) black hobbits, black elves who are NOT canon, no matter what anyone says, according to the law of the Middle-earth world, white elves are their physiology, they cannot be black, even considering that it is fantasy...Do you hear?
Follow the thoughts: "even considering that this is a fantasy, elves can only be white." Speaking of whites, I don't mean skin color, but European or Slavic appearance.
An elf, according to the laws of Tolkien's world, cannot look like a popuas sponge from the desert. I hope the blacks are not offended? It's just that half of you are against it too. But Amazon apparently lacks imagination and does not need a Middle-earth story.
They once again decided to shove COMPULSIVELY cram a story about oppressed minorities, which are trumpeted everywhere and when the viewer, tired of such an obsessive agenda, wants to relax and immerse himself in an interesting story about beautiful and proud elves, fighting and seasoned dwarves, bloodthirsty orcs, noble knights, vile robbers, as well as powerful magicians with their intrigues...what does the viewer see?
Again, the summons, which he did not ask for, she is already everywhere, completely ugly and not wise in the eyes of elves, intimidated, not fighting dwarves and hobbits that are not distinguishable from them at all (just nothing at all!) and the story is not about a world that is different from ours about the projection of events from ours. How convenient it is for Amazon to offend everyone with racists and haters, even if the criticism adequately says that people were waiting for the wrong thing and this is not the canon according to the laws of Middle-earth
The one where Wesley Crusher and Darth Vader pushed Frodo off the Astronomy Tower at Camp Halfblood was even better.
@@JamesMC04 Narnia is finally free
@@skynet9455 huh?!
@@JamesMC04 I'll have whatever you're having
This series will be a magnificent demonstration of the Kruger Dunning effect, to wit of the laughable outcome of tittering mediocrities playing dress ups with a story so far above them, beyond them, and more subtle, intricate and profound than them, that they simply cannot begin to glimpse it. They will be clapping each other on the back and giving each other high-fives while everyone has their heads in their hands.
So we are gonna be reenacting the facepalm meme clip while the critical drinker aggressively chugs two bottles of cleaning detergent in order to soothe his poor mind?
Sounds pretty fucking great, I cant wait to hate watch it for free on a pirate site
*Kruger-Dunning effect
Dunning-Kruger effect*
The fact that Leite's "chosen field was structure engineering" instead of *structural engineering* speaks volumes about his vacuity.
Apparently, language isn't his first language...
Probably he is brazilian.
I just looked at a picture of the guys. Long luscious hair, dead eyes--he's got maximum "prison boyfriend" energy radiating from him.
There are jobs for structural engineers if you are any good, but he's writing, so what does that tell you.
Is that supposed to be civil engineering?
It's the smugness that angers me most about these adult pretenders. They really think they're changing the world.
history will be laughing at them until the end of time
They are changing the world as much as their genders🙄
For some reason they can't read the room. I mean the vast majority of people stands against them, and they don't seem to question their policy even once. I hope we will all still be positively surprised and all our criticism will be disproved, but it's not likely.
IKR. She’s a woman, she’s black and she’s fat. Really ground breaking (😂) and unique !!!
They don't make me angry. They make me sad. They're like defective children so excited about smearing feces on the walls and expecting you to be just as excited as they are. I hope some day they learn to actually be rational adult humans.
WOW, I didn't know Tolkein implied LGBTQAEIOU12345+ representation, female empowerment, inclusion and diversity in his tales. How could I have been such a toxic male?
I liked the part when the 'diverse' armies of Mordor were repulsed by King Aragorn
for me the most disturbing themes in all of the infos and photos and trailers I've seen so far were two things :
1. flattening of Tolkien's charachters to the level of marysuish fanfics or average RPG heroes.
2. changing character's age, gender, skin color and hair color - for NO apparent reason. And I know that Jackson also changed hair colors of few charachters - Boromir, Faramir, Legolas, and Frodo and I also dont understand the reasons for this change. Even though in Frodo's case this could be about him being differentiated a bit from other hobbits by dark hair.
@@3rdtimesthecharm376 By any chance, was Aragorn a gay, transsexual feminist black woman with a disability that hates KKKonservatives and Donald Trump?
In the leadup to this, seminars were given by the Tolkien society with titles like 'A Brief Introduction to Transgender Realities in LOTR' and 'Dwarf-Women and the Feminine Lack.' No, I am not kidding.
@@lupeguadaloupe7686 IRK :D A literary society who cannot divide between interpretation of a source and putting in the source the things which were never in there at the start. :D I've watched some videos about it - my fav is from Just Some Guy.
One good thing, I was defending the lore in an argument when it dawned on me "How can you defend something you've never read?" I knew the deep lore from LotR TH-cam videos but I've never read any of Tolkien personally. I hate being a hypocrite so I picked up the Hobbit, the Trilogy and the Silmarilion.
Now that I’ve seen some of these adult pretenders and their interviews I somehow find myself even more disgusted. If you somehow found Tolkien “inaccessible” prior to race swapping a dwarf, why the hell were you even interested in it in the first place?! It’s like me saying Family Matters was “inaccessible”, yet it was somehow my favorite show as a kid. Good grief.
Family Matters was awesome
Agreed. And they blatantly lie about her being the “first female dwarf” on screen in a Tolkien work.
Not only that, but the cash-grab Hobbit movies at least had the decency to give the dwarf women beards! I didn’t even realize it because I only saw them once and they looked similar to the men. Imagine that!
@@tutuadefolalu3661 while I can sortt of agree that their was female dwarves in the background of other movies. Agency does mean hey now they speak and now they're real people in that world. Because if you followed the same logic you could day all the riders of Rohan, those wer3 since it was just women with man make up
It’a because they don’t like lotr, they just like the amount of fans it has so they want to shove themselves in and get the praise from fans, that’s why they lie so much and lash out with horrible insults against the fans when they reject them
@@sidauthur7836 Bad take. Having a named female dwarf character with lines and scenes doesn't mean she is the "first" because the others still exist. Their lack of lines doesn't erase their presence nor their existence. Those background characters also have agency. Just because the only thing you see them do is move around in the background doesn't mean the character has no agency, they are simply just not the focal point of the story.
And lastly the riders of Rohan being women DOESN'T COUNT because those are ACTORS. These actors are playing male CHARACTERS (Please remember to distinguish between character and actor), and also what do the riders of Rohan have to do with there literally being female dwarves on screen in the past and this dwarf queen character definitely NOT being the first?
-Misunderstanding of what it means for a character to have "agency"
-trouble separating characters from actors in presented argument
-False equivalence in comparing female dwarves with riders of Rohan
Sorry but your argument simply does not hold water.
Glad I found this channel recently. Great content!
Welcome to the front line, fresh meat!
Same here. It’s good
@@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115
Look like meats back on the menu, boys!
@@chasehedges6775 *proceeds to eat the rookie... Whatever it means.
welcome to the fellowship!!
The moment I heard "Playing the first female dwarf depicted on screen" I wanted to smack Seven Colbert and then the woman who supposedly "played" the first female dwarf on screen because I AM one of the people who watched Willow, a story about an ACTUAL dwarf and his ACTUAL dwarf family playing a fictional dwarf and his fictional family in a movie and I LOVED it. That woman is as tall as the rest of the cast and she is PRETENDING to play a dwarf in a movie and she is apparently so "brave" and an "inspiration" for doing so.
I literally wanted to throw up when I heard that.
Also what about that movie with Chris Hemsworth(forgot the name of the movie) he played a huntsman or something and im pretty sure there were like 2 female dwarfs on that movie xd
First ever, never before seen, a wild and ludicrous notion now realised in perfectly diverse and equitable casting.
Do not believe your lying eyes and behold the TRUE first female dwarf depicted on screen!
once again they show that they have no idea who the fanbase they are talking to is. We are avid fantasy fans, and we know when they are lying!
I second that sentiment. I am willing to bet not one of these people is a real artist or writer. To be given the world is not enough. You have got to make it yourself.
Imagine having the perfect books from which you can write a perfect story, nearly impossible to screw up, you have all odds in your favor but you rather do your own thing and butcher the story, then you fail so bad that you have to create an excuse for your stupidity and failure so you blame the disaster of your series on a homophobic audience that doesn’t exist.
And they KEEP DOING THIS too. Its not just one thing; they continually do this to franchises WE LIKE; franchises that their political OPPOSITION likes. Its SO OBVIOUSLY a calculated move by the communist left that owns hollyweird its not even funny. And its so transparent anyone could see through it, that is, if they aren't blue pilled cuck sjws that cant see ANYTHING besides "the Message" and how much they hate and want to murder White People(even if they themselves and their family is White; they hate themselves as well).
Well at least Amazon didn't officially come out and say that any previous works based on Tolkien would no longer be canon so they could create their own new and exciting stories like Kennedy did with all Star Wars novels, comics, and other lore. /sarcasm
@@marc-andrerenaud1394 ohh, so you too have heard about Darth Kathleen. These are dark times my friend….
Haha, you wrote everything right, just change "homophobic" to "rac * st" 😅
what they did to Galadriel is so disgusting and just makes her into another generic "strong female" character. she pretty much has no differentiation from the male cast now.+
Yep. She’s my, and many others, favourite character of all Tolkien’s writings and they are destroying her.
She def. Stood apart before, even as superior to most men with the power and compassion evenly distributed, and her ability to build and instant bridge between a dwarf and and elf of bloodlines they despised one another.
It’s a risky move. But most people coming to this are going to see it as the prequels to the LOTRs. So Galadriel’s leadership and the respect that everyone shows her in the PJ movies has to be explained.
To geeks, knowing that she is High Elf/Noldor/ Calaquendi royalty is enough. We know her history. But the TV series doesn’t have the time or space to get into that. So making her a warrior-queen on par with Gil-galad is easy ti understand…and has some basis in the Silmarillion. Galadriel came the ME from Valinor because she wanted a realm of her own and wanted to wield power.
It’s why Frodo offering her the One Ring was such a trial for her. She had ambition and will enough to be tempted by it, and wield it. “All shall love me, and despair….”
He willingness to turn away from that power and keep her vow to return to Valinor was the culmination of the growth as a character. That she had learned from the mistakes of her kin. She accepted that she’d be corrupted by it.
@@MrBarnettcm
I dont think anyone Matches Here magical Power except the istari and sauron.
@@vinz4066 I’d put Elrond on her level and maybe even thrandruil. She seems just more willing to work with others outside her elfin society. The others stay an run rivindale and the woodlands of Mirkwood, which they have responsibility for.
This show is such an obvious subversion of the source material, and the degree to which they're desperately trying to deny that, in the most sterilized, feminist, woke, corporate way possible.
We've already seen it a million times before. This will undoubtedly be more of the same.
And those of us who don't like it will inevitably be labeled as racists, sexists, transphobes, homophobes, etc, etc.
It's so tired and played out at this point.
This silly game these types of people play has become obnoxiously o b v i o u s at this point, and yet they continue.
Anyone who thinks this isn't Amazon financializing one more 'product' (as they see it) missed the point.
Who gives a fuck about labels? Let them label away! Just laugh and go about your day. All you gotta do
It has already peeked though, and this era is in it's dying moments. The tide has turned
It's obvious why they do it. They know they need the LOTR name to sell things, they know their ideas cannot stand on their own. But the second they say "this isn't Tolkien" then people realize and won't watch it at all because the illusion is then broken.
Key words: Using demographics as GIMMICKS!!! Ignore just using the word "tokenism," the traits they are being inclusive with are being used as gimmicks, meaning they never mattered in the first place. What's more eye opening than admitting they are gimmicks?
I'll be boycotting. I've been a fan of Professor Tolkien for nearly 55 years and find this production unacceptable.
I'm 22 now, and I've been a Tolien fan since I was 7 years old, reading the books at the age of nine for the first time and been reading them almost every year, and I feel so sad for people like you who have been fans for half a century. You really didn't deserve this, I'm sorry we live in this stupid time, where Tolkien's works are being butchered by younger generations.
@@realworldforum It's being implied that Mr. Tolkien must have been a racist, because everybody was a racist back then, and therefore his writings needed to be "fixed" by some "Enlightened" person. Tolkien was an honorable man, and people that are disparaging him and his work deserve all the contempt that can be heaped on them. Rewriting and over-writing his work is insulting.
@@grokeffer6226 it's beyond insulting now, it's a tragedy to the Tolkien fanbase. They can't call him a racist for writing a story based on English and Germanic folklore, but they still do that, it's just the way it is with these people.
Has there ever been an acceptable film production of Tolkien?
@@briangrover873 The LOTR trilogy was acceptable enough, with minor changes. The Hobbit was less acceptable, but at least it didn't introduce anything crazy. This show though, we'll see how it goes, but just the trailer doesn't oredict anything promising
Good-Goddam-Grief! I just hope all self-respecting fans of Tolkien's works boycott this execrable abomination. Can hardly wait for the day Amazon gives up on it. Those mudane empty suits would have done far better to get the rights to use modules from the Middle-earth Role Playing game system!
Her repeating "First female dwarf ever depicted on screen" reminded me of the The Last Jedi interview with the Captain Phasma lady who kept saying "We judge her for her actions and Character"
Not even true lol..Hobbit had them..Willow had REAL dwarves
Thankfully we have 3 epic movies and can ignore this rubbish.
The Peter Jackson films are awesome.
The Hobbit films are… decent/Ok
This…. Looks like manure.
And the ironic thing is it's not like they needed to pick up the books to get a strong representation of Tolkien's lore. THAT'S how great those movies were.
@@hammerheadms exactly. Jackson nailed it IMO, and his movies look, feel, and breathe Middle Earth. Everything about them has that distinct Tolkien atmoshpere. I read the books before I ever watched the Jackson movies, so I had the perspective of already knowing the story and what things were supposed to be like when I watched the movies and I can tell you straight up, they did the best possible job that anyone could've done translating Tolkien from book to film. Some people had issues with the Jackson trilogy back when it came out, and even Gary said he thought it was gonna be garbage, but there's no possibly way Jackson could've gotten every detail or everything that people wanted in 3 movies. He did the best that anyone could've done and because of that we not only have one of the best films/trilogies of all time, but we also have a distinct reference for what Tolkien on screen should look like, and Amazon it's botching it even with the holy grail of examples.
Yep. No one can take those away from us. I even like the Hobbit trilogy, obviously it's not anywhere near as good as the LOTR trilogy, because even Peter Jackson can't top Peter Jackson, but i still enjoy watching them, especially in a 6 movie marathon like the 3 Hobbits and then the 3 LOTR movies. They are still very entertaining to me, despite the occasional cringe, and they are gonna be considered legendary films after this Amazon show comes out because it's gonna make them look like masterpieces compared to it.
@@chasehedges6775 spot on
I liked when Morgoth said "It's Morging time" before he stole the silmarils.
Trully an epic moment.
This one is the best so far ngl
The only saving grace of this travesty was that they couldn’t touch anything substantial First Age and that’s saying alot
@Skynet1 That guitar solo tho!
"Noooo they take lefty!"
I am a woman, and I am annoyed!!! I am annoyed of being represented by characters who, in order to show "power" they have to act like men! I want to see a character who represents real women everywhere, who showcase the real feminine strength and wisdom women actually bring to the world...and not the destructive "power" a sword has in the hand of a woman. That is not women empowerment, that is blurring the lines between men and women differences which is BS, it's exactly the opposite of embracing differences, it is the denial of women having any power if they act like women and not like men...You can tell that men wrote or were involved in the script because obviously, they can't understand what being a strong woman actually means and they just think that it means to be a MAN... they can just fo with their insulting series....
Honestly women have been so brain-washed by the atheist culture that they now think a strong woman is doing the things a man does. It's pathetic and only going to get worse as they have no foundation - no tradition to root themselves in. Mindless, atheist consumers.
Sigourney Weaver in Aliens franchise did a pretty awesome job I felt.
Tolkien was a man, but he understood the role and power of women. It's not because the script writers are men that the women are so portrayed, but it is because they are brainwashed feminists.
There are just as many terrible female writers who do this shit. I think the best way I've heard it describes is "Woke writers turn women into the worst version of men, and men into the worst version of women".
If you want to watch a TV show that doesn't do that shit, but instead respects it's characters and tells an actually gripping story that goes places you don't expect, watch The Expanse.
It is by far the best sci-fi TV show to come out in recent years and by the time I was up to the 3rd season I legit couldn't stop watching it (it's got 5 seasons with a 6th in the works).
In terms of games, might I recommend Shadow Tactics, Blades of the Shogun. Every character in that game, both the men and the women, do things in their own special way and they all have strengths and weaknesses so they work together, and one character in particular is interesting because she does things that she can only do precisely because she is a woman.
She also happens to greatly respect the man she is romantically involved with, something he more than earned.
Then there's also anime and manga. There exists thousands of fantastic female characters in these mediums but the two that seem the most popular in the west right now are My Hero Academia (an anime who's fans have described as "every girl is best girl") and Kimetsu no Yaiba, an indescribably beautiful anime that features both manly men and feminine women (and is written by a woman who respects both).
the best part about this is that galadriel in the books was such a representation of female strength, with her beauty and magical powers and wisdom. she was one of the most powerful beings in middle earth and valinor combined. but this wasnt enough for the woke crowd, they need her to be a bad boss bitch with armor and a sword, even though she could level entire cities with her mind.
also there were female writers involved in this project. they didnt do a good job. probably spend too much time on twitter and not enough outside talking to normal people.
The only good thing to come out of ScreenRant has been Pitch Meetings, and thankfully Ryan has his own channel now.
He's also leaning to the left though
@@GigglingStoners He's also astute enough to call movies out on bad story telling, character arcs, plot holes, plot devices, plot armor, plot contrivances etc etc, and that's the problem people are telling you that wokeness is destroying the film industry when it's simply piss poor writing.
@@hanskneesun123 Bad writing still gets greenlit if its woke enough though. Disney Star wars and the whole Mcu since the snap are proof. Also 99% of netflix
@@betelgeux6010 Disney Star Wars didn't have a coherent story for the entire trilogy, they scrapped the road map that George Lucas had prepared and let JJ and Rian Johnson have a dick waving contest without a care for the audience.
@@GigglingStoners i've watched him call out this nonsense time and time again for corporate pandering. if he leans left it's not noticeable.
Yeah, this Marcelo guy is a Bobby Fischer like genius. His writing skill is just icing on the cake. They pander to the LGBTQ+ community… Why not pander to the Tolkien faithful instead?
Because they thought that we will watch it just because of the name no matter how shit it is.
This is true, I would say that the % of the population of the earth that are Tolkien fans is larger than the % that is part of the rainbow mafia.
I'm glad you mentioned Bobby, SW fans have the same arguments to make.
Did you watch the Hobbit films?
Because giving fans what they want is counter to the woke agenda.
I've said this before. This young man writing this article is of the age of folks I've taught in secondary school. His unsupported, circular, and logically flawed writing is the sour fruit that grows from the seeds of poor writing instruction and experience.
And the showrunners? They are either truly as ignorant of the lore as they look, or purposely ignoring/distorting it which makes them evil charlatans. A sit down with Nerdrotic as the interviewer would be like a cage match between John Cena and a drunk college kid, with Nerdrotic as Cena.They are the posterchildren for privilege.
This series will burn like Precious dropped into the fires of Mordor.
"His unsupported, circular, and logically flawed writing is the sour fruit that grows from the seeds of poor writing instruction and experience." these kids are plucked right off the street with no real experience, and they're chosen based on skin color. surprise surprise, when what they create is about as useful as an unloaded gun.
@@Astares9 at least you can use an uploaded gun as a club if you have to.
Gandalf is woke now too? Ur profile pic is throwing a mofo off here
My favorite part was when Galadriel puts on Nenya and fights Sauron with the One Ring in a battle where they form giant energy Kaiju forms that shoot beams of light and darkness respectively at each other, and Galadriel easily wins, welcoming in a new era where Orcs can once again be free to live in the inner city portion of Lothlorien to bring their own colorful culture and soulful cooking to the restaurants there. It was what Tolkien's great grand-niece would have wanted if she existed and Amazon could have found her to record her endorsement.
Lol. That's prob not even that far off from what they're actually doing.
What do these columnists, writers, and producers hope to accomplish, by calling fans idiotic OR ignorant? Do they believe this will cause people to want to watch "The Rings of Power?" Why is it so important to place inorganic diversity into something that clearly goes against what Tolkien actually wrote? I miss the days when "creators" loved their work. The days when the most important thing was to put out the best show possible. Something to be proud of. Hollywood is sacrificing art for agenda...Alas.
They can't respond to the criticisms, so they're establishing the Narrative that Tolkien's knowledgeable fans are racist, sexist crybabys. By continually lying that these stories are based on Tolkien, they hope to imprint on the low-information viewers (not dumb, mind, just not paying attention to this like we are) that criticism of the series is not accurate.
Because it is about “The Message” and not Tolkien’s work. No different than activist teachers peddling a woke agenda to young impressionable minds.
"I hate the Rings of Power I think it's horrible and ruins the stor- oh wait, some random journalist is calling me an ignorant racist? I must watch the show now!"
@@BillPeschel They are fighting a losing battle. This is something they were not prepared for. Taking a beloved author's work for the sake of a political agenda is a low blow to Tolkien, and the fans. They banked on the name to bring in a built-in audience. A major backfire is afoot!
@@matthewmekonis1790 Too true! The only people who would not be aware; are innocent children (with the teachers). And normies (towards The Rings Of Power)
Watching them scramble around for answers on that panel was both hilarious and infuriating. I'm a little shocked they had the balls to go up there in front of fans and tell bold-faced lies when they didn't have little gift baskets to hide behind. I guess a celebrity is as good as jangling keys.
"Implied" "We had scholars"
The contempt and disrespect they have for Tolkien's work is disgusting.
It's insulting how stupid they think we are.
Just shut up and pay for prime :)
Agreed. We need to boycott these assholes so hard Amazon - and other commie sjw companies - NEVER try this shit again ESPECIALLY WITH TOLKIENS WORKS.
Everything in the series is for selection:
strong and independent women (who are just strong, but no one shows even the minimum path of their strength formation) moreover, they lack female strength, it is hypertrophied male - testesterone!
Gay and lesbian couples whose history is more important to Amazon than the history and events in the world (although fans came for stories from the world) black hobbits, black elves who are NOT canon, no matter what anyone says, according to the law of the Middle-earth world, white elves are their physiology, they cannot be black, even considering that it is fantasy...Do you hear?
Follow the thoughts: "even considering that this is a fantasy, elves can only be white." Speaking of whites, I don't mean skin color, but European or Slavic appearance.
An elf, according to the laws of Tolkien's world, cannot look like a popuas sponge from the desert. I hope the blacks are not offended? It's just that half of you are against it too. But Amazon apparently lacks imagination and does not need a Middle-earth story.
They once again decided to shove COMPULSIVELY cram a story about oppressed minorities, which are trumpeted everywhere and when the viewer, tired of such an obsessive agenda, wants to relax and immerse himself in an interesting story about beautiful and proud elves, fighting and seasoned dwarves, bloodthirsty orcs, noble knights, vile robbers, as well as powerful magicians with their intrigues...what does the viewer see?
Again, the summons, which he did not ask for, she is already everywhere, completely ugly and not wise in the eyes of elves, intimidated, not fighting dwarves and hobbits that are not distinguishable from them at all (just nothing at all!) and the story is not about a world that is different from ours about the projection of events from ours. How convenient it is for Amazon to offend everyone with racists and haters, even if the criticism adequately says that people were waiting for the wrong thing and this is not the canon according to the laws of Middle-earth
Just looking at that idiot “writer” socks and shoes choice says it all. What a Woke Joke… F Off Amazon…
a bunch of jesters telling made up stories.
We should boycott Amazon. Not only Amazon Prime, but Amazon itself. It would also help the local economy and smaller internet platforms and shops.
I'm already doing this; and I agree EVERYONE should boycott Amazon over this; I've also been boycotting not only ALL of Disney and CBS but ALL of Hollyweird itself since 2017 since I saw THE LAST JEDI in theaters and walked away in a rage, the first and only time thats ever happened IMMEDIATELY after I saw a movie. Normally it takes me a few days to analyze something and decide if it was good or bad but with Last Jedi I knew RIGHT AWAY just how much they HATE US THE FANS and HATE THE SOURCE MATERIAL.
Without respect WE REJECT. And this goes triply so for anything related to Tolkien, which is my favorite series of all time, even more than Star Wars AND Star Trek combined. I wont even PIRATE this shit; i wont watch it AT ALL I wont allow these monsters that HATE MY RACE and HATE ME PERSONALLY to tarnish Tolkien in any way for me, I wont allow them to insult Tolkien or insult us the fans of Tolkien in ANY WAY. I learned my lesson with SJW commie "films"/propaganda with The Last Jedi, with all of Disney Soy Wars, with STD, and so many others. I will NEVER watch this shit again not even if i was paid to do so. It CAUSES brain damage.
I already don't buy from Amazon if the product I want can be obtained elsewhere. In some cases, I just don't buy what I want at all and my wallet thanks me for it.
The diversity quotas, political narratives, phony female empowerment by turning them into men, and other political ideology, such as the reference to elves and nationalism. Call it wokeism, call it modern Democrat party thinking, whatever. All of this crap really dates the material. One of the many things that I love about Peter Jackson's LOTR trilogy is that it's timeless. When you go back and watch it, you can't tell when it was made. You can't date it. He stuck to the lore as best as he could, and that's all you need. He made it clear right from the get go that he was a caretaker of Tolkien's work and that they needed to be as faithful as they could to that world. The Hobbit trilogy is good, but not nearly as masterful as the LOTR trilogy. That's one of the major problems with the Rings of Power series coming up - it's dated since it has so many ideological narratives inserted into it. The people who are creating it don't view themselves as caretakers. They view themselves as virtuous change agents who can do whatever they want with the material. They're arrogant and ignorant.
I completely agree, uncle.
Screen Rant is the most shill of all the shill sites.
There is not a piece of crappy media that they WONT desperately leg hump with endless articles telling you why (insert show) being so completely unpopular with fans is a GOOD thing.
I'm so glad Pitch Meetings got off that platform and got its own channel 🙏
I cannot wait for Gary and the others on TH-cam to monetize the HELL out of this garbage. And with this recession a huge thank you to Amazon, you are keeping the people I love to watch on TH-cam in business.
Gary's eyes turned into dollar signs and shot across the room when Marvel Phase 5 was announced. Between this and that, I'm happy for them and their job security.
These fetchers can eat crow. My hide is still chapped from 'Wheel of Time.' I wish every financial misfortune upon these hacks. At no time did they come close to answering the questions. I believe I speak for everyone at Comic-Con when I say that we are all in fact, dumber, for having listened to them. I award them no points, and may God have mercy on their souls.
"Tolkien never specifically said that Galadriel and Muriel never scissored" 😂😂😂😂😂 It killed me
Everything in the series is for selection:
strong and independent women (who are just strong, but no one shows even the minimum path of their strength formation) moreover, they lack female strength, it is hypertrophied male - testesterone!
Gay and lesbian couples whose history is more important to Amazon than the history and events in the world (although fans came for stories from the world) black hobbits, black elves who are NOT canon, no matter what anyone says, according to the law of the Middle-earth world, white elves are their physiology, they cannot be black, even considering that it is fantasy...Do you hear?
Follow the thoughts: "even considering that this is a fantasy, elves can only be white." Speaking of whites, I don't mean skin color, but European or Slavic appearance.
An elf, according to the laws of Tolkien's world, cannot look like a popuas sponge from the desert. I hope the blacks are not offended? It's just that half of you are against it too. But Amazon apparently lacks imagination and does not need a Middle-earth story.
They once again decided to shove COMPULSIVELY cram a story about oppressed minorities, which are trumpeted everywhere and when the viewer, tired of such an obsessive agenda, wants to relax and immerse himself in an interesting story about beautiful and proud elves, fighting and seasoned dwarves, bloodthirsty orcs, noble knights, vile robbers, as well as powerful magicians with their intrigues...what does the viewer see?
Again, the summons, which he did not ask for, she is already everywhere, completely ugly and not wise in the eyes of elves, intimidated, not fighting dwarves and hobbits that are not distinguishable from them at all (just nothing at all!) and the story is not about a world that is different from ours about the projection of events from ours. How convenient it is for Amazon to offend everyone with racists and haters, even if the criticism adequately says that people were waiting for the wrong thing and this is not the canon according to the laws of Middle-earth
😂👏🏽
Let's make fan art of that a part of this show
Another example of modern entertainment:
1. Hit lightening in a bottle: The start of fans only grows from here; through word of mouth, social media, etc.
2. Figure out what made fans happy
3. Make a glorious string of hits
4. Make sudden unwanted changes for the sake of changing them
5. Company wonders why fans (that got them to where they are), are then upset for changing things that didn't need changing
6. The new people they tried to appeal to see the amount of anger and uproar from existing fans
7. Now that has company lost out on its fanbase, potential new fans, and confidence from investors.
8. The company then usually tries to make some half-baked attempt at rekindling what they once had, but longtime fans are tired of the bs, and they've moved on.
Yeah that was really low to pimp Mr. Shipley to give themselves credibility. Leaving out the part where they treated the guy like crap and fired him when he pointed out they were trashing the lore. Man, that's some nerve. 🤬
Absolutely! I agree completely.
that's exactly what he was paid for. even if he didn't realize at the moment. only for his name to be used at their discretion
There are no black dwarves or elvis in Tolkiens the Lord of the Rings, I agree but they're also weren't a such thing as white Egyptians or a white Cleopatra in the Pharaoh times
"What I love about the writers is that they have given *every woman* on the show such agency. We don't serve the men around us. We have a storyline in our own right."
Somewhere, Young Rippa just fell asleep in his chair.
Making all the women strong and independent isn't revolutionary -- it happens in everything that's produced these days; it's mandated by woke Hollywood. And it isn't good storytelling ...
Women should be written to be interesting characters, and that means some of them *should* be flawed and some of them *should* be subservient to men, or anything else the script requires.
The point of entertainment is to entertain, not preach feminism or anything else ad nauseam.
The thing about any strong characters is that they have to be strong in the face of some kind of hardship. Sarah Connor in T2 is still one of my favorite action characters. Much because she's had time to prepare and she's still having to fight while scared and underpowered. Same with Ripley in Alien. Most anyone would be scared beyond any rational action in their situation. But male action heroes would have been portrayed much more one dimensional which is pretty boring. Them being women allows the filmmakers to have them show more emotion, and in turn making the whole thing more relatable and realistic. The problem I have with modern female action heroes is that making them overpowered and one dimensional makes them as boring as male action heroes. Possibly more so because the suspension of disbelief is harder to maintain.
We need more realistic male heroes, not more unrealistic female ones.
@@ViktorSarge i can tell when a woman is written well when i start actually giving a care about the stuff they're trying to survive through. people should pay attention to their baseline attention more, if you find yourself not giving a shit about a character it's probably not your fault it's most likely how they're written.
@@ViktorSarge Extremely well said. That's very much why I am fascinated by the version of Sarah Connor in TSCC. She's fearful, but full of rage. She wants to love and be loved but hates it for making her weak. She's a sympathetic character only because she's FAR from bulletproof, and is in agony when her son suffers. She also knows what her fear is doing to him, but without that fear the possibility of his death only increases. Watching this fierce, conflicted woman who has no way out is riveting.
@@ViktorSarge There's a reason why the main character in most horror movies is a Woman.
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I wish star wars fans will take a stand for their franchise like lord of the rings fans do.
we try, but the normies are vast and numerous
@@mediocrestreams3284 yeah star wars has always been the layman's Dune
Lucas sold out and we got JJ as a result. But at the core you have to blame George Lucas - he knew what a studio would do to his franchise. He self financed Empire Strikes Back for that reason. So he took his four billion bucks and washed his hands of Star Wars.
We do. And they just call anyone who questions anything they do "ToXiC fAnBoY" whilst ironically toxically screaming and insulting anyone who dares say " the pacing in Obi Wan was really bad"
"Understanding [Melkor] turned to subtlety in perverting to his own will all that he would use, until he became a liar without shame." - J.R.R. Tolkien
Gee, doesn't that sound familiar? The name-drop of Tom Shippey got my blood boiling more than anything. Disgusting.
I never thought I'd see Colbert sink to an even lower level... He was the biggest Tolkien fan and hear he is keeping his mouth shut for a pocket full of cash... Disgraceful
What truly annoys me is with the vast scope of Tolkien's world they COULD have included representation and anything else society now expects WITHOUT ruining what already existed. They could have had Easterlins or the Haradrin for Asian and Black representation as one just example. How about an Easterlin who had worked with the blue wizards and stayed good coming to help the peoples of middle Earth battle Sauron? That sounds epic and would even give a nod to the fact we know nothing about the blue wizards.
But no.
Let's just fuck up Tolkien's work...
That idea sounds terrible tho imo, just making it about a random Easterling to have a black protagonist is so stupid
@@RideForRuin I'd still prefer it this. Especially since they wouldn't have to insult us by pretending to be fans of Tolkien.
@@RideForRuinIt doesn't sound terrible at all. And the Easterlings were not black but asian , get your lore straight. "Easterlings" , get it? The point is it would have been within frameworks set up by Tolkein. Remember that when you start throwing around words like "stupid". Amazon's efforts represent the worst kind of fanfiction , but that's because of its blatant disrespect for the intent of the author.
@@RideForRuin Thats literally what they did with the black elf and dwarf. At least the Easterling would have a compelling story to tell. What do the former two offer? A love story? Who cares?
They could also Cast a drag Queen for female dwarfs. But No beardless dwarfs it is.
The part where Galadriel accepts Saurons offer the rule the Galaxy as father and son was what got me.
Omg I am so glad the LOTR was made back in time when it was ok to make adaptation of beloved book without injecting it with the woke message.
"Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made."
- Professor Tolkien
One of the best ways to determine if a "journalist" has a liberal education is to see that in their writing they do not feel the need to defend their thesis or demonstrate why their point-of-view is correct, they feel it is sufficient to simply tell you what a thing means. He doesn't need to tell you WHY the criticism is wrong, he can just tell you that it's wrong. This comes from years of sitting in classes where they were not taught HOW to think, but instead taught WHAT to think.
aww, look at them using diversity and LGBTQ representation as a shield to protect themselves from criticism. So original. So cute.
The narrative that Rings of Power includes the first female Dwarf ever seen on screen is the same line that was used for Black Panther. It was claimed that movie was the first superhero movie lead by a Black protagonist - just conveniently ignoring that the 1998 Blade movie starring Wesley Snipes that kickstarted the modern comic book movie trend was ever made, as well as ignoring its two sequels and Spawn - which was patently untrue but used to try to paint a pretty by the numbers superhero tale as some grand, epochal 'cultural moment' and so sell more tickets. Amazon is cribbing from Disney/Marvel and trying to pull the same trick here, for the same cynical and self serving reasons. Hollywood in general is more than happy to lie about and misrepresent the past, even the recent past well within living memory, if they think that by doing so they can turn a quick buck.
"Burnham is the important black Captain!"
"Madge Sinclair, Commander the USS _Saratoga_ also Burnham isn't the 'Captain'. She's the XO until she screws up and gets put in prison for trying to start a war. Also first *main* character black person, was Sisko. Yes he wasn't a *captain* at the start, but he was the CO of DS9."
"W-well you just hate black people Trek always woke! REEEE"
I love how at the con someone actually asked the showrunners why there were hobbits in the second age and their answer blatantly showed that they had no clue what they were talking about in regards to the works by Tolkien. Because yeah there are no hobbits in the second age. What's also funny is that Colbert (who headed the Q&A at the Con) is a MASSIVE Tolkien fan and knows it intimately. And you know he's groaning inside when he hears this crap but isn't brave enough to speak out. But then again, he does have to keep his job but I'd respect him a WHOLE lot more if he honestly voiced his opinion. Heck he even calls out the original actors for their lack of knowledge about LOTR! Oh well.
I like Harfoots because I damn well feel like Harfoots should be there so that I can avoid the fact Celeborn isn’t there even though the appendix explicitly says Celeborn and Galadriel were together from beginning . Ugh I’m so done with this show !
Colbert isn't groaning inside. He's one of those fake fans and I'm sure he's just rejoicing inside. The guy has made a living off of being a lying hypocrite his whole life.
Colbert is about as woke as they come. He wholeheartedly supports what they're doing.
@@GeraltofRivia22 I don't know man, parts of that interview he looked either concerned or uncomfortable with their answers
@@BigBelugaArez probably cause he knew they'd get torn apart.
I just literally sat here speechless trying to think of how hardcore I could describe being incensed by the sheer stupidity and narcissism of the developers of this travesty... Poor Tolkien is probably rolling in his grave.
It's really funny how even the most hardcore lore Tolkien fans (myself included) still had a great time with playing Shadow of Mordor and Shadow of War, even when the Lore was a little derailed with some of the stuff the games showed, but even then the game developers still had great respect for the source material and didn't try to destroy Tolkiens work.
Was thinking the same. Hell I'd love if that was the version of Celebrimbor depicted on screen. Just as ruthless as his Grandfather Faenor
The first one, yes. The second one was absolutely bullshit. Female Asian wring wraiths, sexy woman Shelob, black gondorians, Talion becoming a wring wraith. At the very least, those games didn't pretend to be some great work that Tolkien never wrote like this show.
The game devs love Tolkien and his work, and they wanted to make something inspired from the story they love, while still keeping their respect. We all share the same sentiment, of wanting to become a part of the story, or wanting to tell our own story in this world. Imo this is something beautiful and shows how much u know and love this work of art, and wanting to share ur love to others. This show however, was definitely not that, they wanted to change the story, not from a place of endearment, but because they think they can do better. They wanted to insert their own touch and change the lore, not to show their own vision and respect, but to push a political and personal agenda. They wanted to create an intellectual property for everyone, not to share the love with the fans, but to shove their opinions down our throats and wont take no for an answer
Or The Lord of the Rings LCG. It’s fun.
@@GeraltofRivia22 *There was an "Asian" Ringwraith: Khamul from Harad who was given one of the Nine Rings; you also had Haradrim wards stay in Gondor, too, heck even the bloodlines of Elros (Elrond's brother) who mate with the women of Harad to create a line of Earendil as like Gondor and Arnor, which meant certain brown/black humans had the blood of Earendil ~*
After watching the latest trailer I thought “If I didn’t know it was Tolkien heresy it might have been interesting.” Watching the crew talk about it disabused me if that notion. I go to fantasy to see different worlds and inhabitants - not to see todays world with a different backdrop.
Do black people make you uncomfortable?
@@reek4062 LMAO what an ignorant response
@@reek4062 Imagine seeing a Sleeping Beauty adaptation with only black dwarves. Is it an adaptation? Probably. Is it doable? Yes, not that you'll be smote from the heavens if you pitch that. Is it respectful? Absolutely not, because it overrides the theme of the original story with a modernized agenda that simply DOES NOT HAVE ANY MEANING in the context. It's like shoving down this relentless (and good) message in all BUT the right places, therefore twisting it and fueling unnecessary drama. But hey, drama means engagement and that means money for those f*ckheads that got this idea in the first place. Hope nobody watches it
@@reek4062 no, but seeing white Wakandans would.
@@jaqenhghar2970 lol, wut?
They are so full of it…the elves are specifically written as unchanging race, that’s their sorrow and burden, the world goes by and they are the same. They didn’t go trough fashion and cultural changes. Jeez did these people even read the books???
They made Lotr, a run of the mill holywood fantasy thing with woke stuff. I going back to forget that this is a thing. I wish they didn't butcher characters, just do your own thing.
To quote J.R.R Tolkien: "Evil cannot create anything new, They can only corrupt & ruin what good forces have invented or made."😔
This is what Amazon is doing
That's not a quote; it's a paraphrase.
At least Amazon got their impression of Morgoth right.
@@WeAreHere-42 “Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin good forces have invented or made” ... did Tolkien leave out "what?" Is that why you are upset?
I think they're making something irrelevant
lmao so many of you clowns saw this quote once and regurgitate it as often as you can for some semblance of attention
It's great to see that you hit 500k ... I am with you since you had around 60k and i can remember when your subscriber count didn't move for weeks. A great milestone achievement for you. Congratulations.
I loved the part of the trailer where Galadriel lowers herself into the lava at mount doom while Elrond cried as she gave him a thumbs up before she was melted.
Tolkien would be proud. It gave me chills.
Yeah that part gave me seizure and made me start crying butterfly tears. The memberberries almost killed me I was so HYPED.
I also like the part where Warrior Galadrial says "You're terminated fucker" and presses the button that kills Sauron with an industrial scrap metal compacting machine. I clapped JUST LIKE A SEAL! JUST LIKE THEY TAUGHT ME TO AND PAID ME TO! Oops I mean "just as I seriously thought; they definitely didnt pay me off to "approve" of their stupid woke crap".
Or when Galadriel said to the dragon "Get away from her you BlTCH!"
And her "I'll be back" catchphase was so inspiring
Are you already pre-Morbing Rings of Power you savage?
Don't forget when elrond said "asta la vista bitch"
I agree with a lot of the criticisms and the forced moralistic messages for the most part, but the fact this guy keeps bringing up "warrior Galadriel" as an example is a bit dishonest or ignorant to me. There are huge periods of the first and 2nd age where we don't see what Galadriel is doing and it's explained that she has a desire to explore and see all of Middle Earth ... also, in letter 348 Tolkien writes that Galadriel means "Maiden crowned with gleaming hair" in Sindarian, and that it was her secondary name. In her youth, she was of amazon disposition, and bound up her hair as a crown when taking part in athletic feats." ... also when she was born she was named Artanis (noble woman) but as she grew to heights the same as men her mother called her Nerwen or "man maiden" ... so the idea that she could have been a warrior that riveled men in the 2nd age is not far fetched even a little bit
"She's the first female dwarf ever depicted from this world."
Ah, the narcissism and need to be "special" continues. This keeps happening over and over and over again with these people. It's honestly like they can't be bothered to look back for more than a couple years in time. Maybe they're just humanoid goldfish, and have no long-term memory. And hell, the actress playing 'Disa' has already come out claiming that the Amazon series will be "viewed for generations to come" as an example of Tolkien to show people. Sorry dear, but this show will be flushed down the memory hole within a couple years of it ending. Tolkien's works will be remembered and loved for generations to come. This show? Not so much. But then again, she also claimed that this show will be her kids first ever experience with Tolkien. Because she apparently didn't want them to watch the movies or read the books, since they didn't have black people in them. So she might be a LITTLE bit racist.
Just imagine that the otehr way around. Thats the left double standart at its finest. Its a shame, that Tolkien is handled by those despicable people.
Greetings form Germany.
They can't look back more than a few years. The past is dead.
_"viewed for generations to come"_
If we say it enough times, it will come true....
>_
There was a shot of a female dwarf in the Hobbit but yeah conveniently forget that.
Exactly.
"Don't watch Black Panther. It doesn't focus on white people."
Can you imagine the shitstorm that would ensue from that statement? How do these infantile, conceited people function?
If you wanted to make your own thing, you could just make your own thing.
This is a strangely deviant concept for corporations who prefer to blow money buying existing works that they don't intend to actually make.
Everything in the series is for selection:
strong and independent women (who are just strong, but no one shows even the minimum path of their strength formation) moreover, they lack female strength, it is hypertrophied male - testesterone!
Gay and lesbian couples whose history is more important to Amazon than the history and events in the world (although fans came for stories from the world) black hobbits, black elves who are NOT canon, no matter what anyone says, according to the law of the Middle-earth world, white elves are their physiology, they cannot be black, even considering that it is fantasy...Do you hear?
Follow the thoughts: "even considering that this is a fantasy, elves can only be white." Speaking of whites, I don't mean skin color, but European or Slavic appearance.
An elf, according to the laws of Tolkien's world, cannot look like a popuas sponge from the desert. I hope the blacks are not offended? It's just that half of you are against it too. But Amazon apparently lacks imagination and does not need a Middle-earth story.
They once again decided to shove COMPULSIVELY cram a story about oppressed minorities, which are trumpeted everywhere and when the viewer, tired of such an obsessive agenda, wants to relax and immerse himself in an interesting story about beautiful and proud elves, fighting and seasoned dwarves, bloodthirsty orcs, noble knights, vile robbers, as well as powerful magicians with their intrigues...what does the viewer see?
Again, the summons, which he did not ask for, she is already everywhere, completely ugly and not wise in the eyes of elves, intimidated, not fighting dwarves and hobbits that are not distinguishable from them at all (just nothing at all!) and the story is not about a world that is different from ours about the projection of events from ours. How convenient it is for Amazon to offend everyone with racists and haters, even if the criticism adequately says that people were waiting for the wrong thing and this is not the canon according to the laws of Middle-earth
12:42 This is understandable actually.
Remember when Gimli said people often mistakenly identify female dwarfs as male dwarfs because of their beards?
Yea Amazon just see those female dwarfs in the Hobbits as male. Gimli was right all along
Is that line in the books, though? I might be wrong, but as far as I remember, he only said that in the movie.
errr idk, I don't have the books to check, but he did shown the Hobbits movie as proof that there were female dwarfs in LOTR adaptation already. So using that line by Gimli from another movie should be just fine.
Ha ha ha
Gimli that mad bastard broke the 4th wall and gave us a hot take on amazons faults
His SJW impression is as annoying as Colbert's Trump impression
… there’s just a fundamental problem before we ever get to the casting or art direction, which is the matter of Tolkien’s dialogue, which is really not easy to duplicate.
I feel like non-fans can’t see this, and think it’s no big deal that the Silmarillion has maybe a total of 3 pages of spoken lines iirc. No way is an industry writer gonna capture the gentle cadences of speech in LOTR or the Hobbit…
The dialogue is going to be tricky. Amazon doesn't have the rights to the Silmarillion, so it can't use any of its dialogue.
@@reek4062 who ever has that IP, I pray they never sell it -- at least not until the Age of Woke has passed.
you mean like any of the scenes with Eru creating the world or like how if yo uwere 15 years old and reading you had to take breaks bc you were like wtf is this at first?
@@jonathanferguson7791 Eru didn't create Arda, the world. Eru created Ea, the cosmos. The Ainur created Arda through their collective interpretation of the Music despite Melkor's dissonance.
@@reek4062 Amazon worked directly with the Tolkein Estate to get permission to use certain aspects of the Silmarillion. The showrunners have admitted as much. Clearly First Age stuff from what we've seen but that could all be prologue to catch viewers up, or shown throughout the season as flashbacks of Galadriel. My guess is there will be some dialogue as well. The Oath of Feanor and his sons would be very cool to hear spoken and not just shown.
Everyone who is disgusted by Amazon and their bastardization of a masterpiece, don't simply boycott the show. Do more. Fight back by politely telling your consumer friends and family to miss the show. Explain, rationally, that by watching it, you're contributing to the problem. Amazon needs terrible, abysmal, ratings to feel the sting of their hubris. Try to get your peers to join you in making that sting unavoidable.
Sadly, 2 friends of mine are going to give it A chance..... poor b@stards.
Way ahead of you
@@Hivedragon damn
@@joehanz9217 I know and they even know about the backlash from the fans and what the crew said, seeing I shared that topic also with them. i just hope they stop watching before even finishing the first episode.
@@Hivedragon i don't even think to watch this goddamn show, it's not worth...
Come September 2nd on its release, my husband and children will be watching the Peter Jackson trilogy in honor of Tolkien, and not going anywhere near Amazon's abomination
This whole take is trash…. I’m out. ✌🏾
Tolkien wrote an insanely popular book that spawned an entire industry. Peter Jackson made an insanely popular trilogy of movies that received 17 oscars.
But these people are like: ''nah, that's not what people like. We're gonna make it better."
There is something that bothered me during the footage of the actor interviews. There was a statement made about the Amazon series giving women their own "agency" and not being subservient. Tolkien wrote strong women characters, the women Valar, Melian, Luthien, Galadriel, Eowyn, etc. Hell, Lobelia took shit from no one, not even Saruman's thugs!
But you see it only matters when THEY do it , because they see themselves as revolutionaries on the right side of history. In their view Tolkein didn't really mean it when he wrote strong female characters. Thanks for the reminder about Lobelia , she really was kinda cool.
One of the most powerful scene in LOTR is Eowyn's "I am no man" as she kills the leader of the supposedly invincible Witch King.
Too bad all the people who worked on this show are woke political activists who couldn´t care less about the source materal.
@@ronDCM now that's true feminism right there, not this wokey wakey femanazi shit seen here.
Everything in the series is for selection:
strong and independent women (who are just strong, but no one shows even the minimum path of their strength formation) moreover, they lack female strength, it is hypertrophied male - testesterone!
Gay and lesbian couples whose history is more important to Amazon than the history and events in the world (although fans came for stories from the world) black hobbits, black elves who are NOT canon, no matter what anyone says, according to the law of the Middle-earth world, white elves are their physiology, they cannot be black, even considering that it is fantasy...Do you hear?
Follow the thoughts: "even considering that this is a fantasy, elves can only be white." Speaking of whites, I don't mean skin color, but European or Slavic appearance.
An elf, according to the laws of Tolkien's world, cannot look like a popuas sponge from the desert. I hope the blacks are not offended? It's just that half of you are against it too. But Amazon apparently lacks imagination and does not need a Middle-earth story.
They once again decided to shove COMPULSIVELY cram a story about oppressed minorities, which are trumpeted everywhere and when the viewer, tired of such an obsessive agenda, wants to relax and immerse himself in an interesting story about beautiful and proud elves, fighting and seasoned dwarves, bloodthirsty orcs, noble knights, vile robbers, as well as powerful magicians with their intrigues...what does the viewer see?
Again, the summons, which he did not ask for, she is already everywhere, completely ugly and not wise in the eyes of elves, intimidated, not fighting dwarves and hobbits that are not distinguishable from them at all (just nothing at all!) and the story is not about a world that is different from ours about the projection of events from ours. How convenient it is for Amazon to offend everyone with racists and haters, even if the criticism adequately says that people were waiting for the wrong thing and this is not the canon according to the laws of Middle-earth
Subbed for solidarity. You have a lot of the same takes on things as me. Sometimes, I think there's an intent to make sane people feel lonely, the gaslighting is nearly unbearable. Knowing folks like you and your other fans are out there makes me feel a little less alone for noticing these patterns. I'm sick of being painted as a bad person or a bigot for noticing patterns and questioning them.
Hang in there and don't let the woke people get you down. The community of sane people is much bigger and stronger, they're just not as outspoken. There are many people like you who do not agree with the woke, superficial nonsense
You are not alone!! There are more of us than them, more who honor the creative geniuses of the past without feeling the need to “edit” their work.
Don't believe what the internet tells you. Those in charge of what you hear on it are a small vocal minority - very vocal, but very small.
The wokefying of everything beloved is simply a product of our generation. A small group of the worst of the worst took advantage of the times we live in (woke White house, woke Congress, woke Social media) to try to rewrite all of our beloved franchises in their image. This will become their undoing, however, because they did it too fast and too aggressively, hence they alienated pretty much everyone out there, despite having the support of major media conglomerates like Disney.
Most people blame Amazon for enabling them. But Amazon played the safe card - unlike Disney, which threw themselves into the woke propaganda wave like a headless chicken, Amazon gives free reign to whoever has an original idea with potential. The Grand Tour, The Boys, Invincible, Vox Machina and a number of other non-woke series are extremely successful (hell, The Boys even mocks the hell out of wokeists), so whether The Rings Of Power will succeed or not, they do not care - if it is successful, they will churn more out of it, if it flops (which it will), they may make 1-2 seasons and will eventually pull the plug.
What will happen, is that the Prime account holders will simply not watch it, but would go watch The Boys, or Invincible, instead. And these morons will understand the hard way that these tech giants care only about the money and nothing else.
@@stefantsarev4442
Did seeing a black dwarf in the trailer hurt your delicate sensibilities?
I’ll come back to this and laugh when the rings of power becomes the biggest show on tv
@@swamidan277 a voice of reason. I was beginning to feel lonely.
I genuinely am so excited for this to release.
It's watching the pop culture narrative burn.
It's gonne be like the best metaphorical bonfire ever.
The entitlement to change legendary lore and stories is becoming unbearable. (Loads the special edition lotr trilogy and opens book collection to find true comfort)
Somehow this will hang on for several seasons just like every other terrible show being put out these days. And the longer they run, the more idiots convince themselves that it's not bad, it's the "new normal."
it would be an exercise in futility to keep this show running. i think they'll put out the first season, since it's already been filmed, and try to cover up its massive failure with excuses and blame shifting.
Tolkien loathed modernity and as far as I can tell, didn't particularly care for cinema. He would be utterly incredulous if he were forced to sit through this.
Fruity Voice!
Fruity Voice!!
Just can't get enough of that
FRUITY VOICE FRUITY VOICE!!!
"You have been told many lies about Middle Earth." This show is one of them. Since lying is wrong,I don't expect Amazon to know that,it won't hurt to avoid it then.
Since that could've been Annatar... that's a cool and fitting line...
@@darksider4736 Yes it could have been. I didn't think about that but it is super fitting. Almost like the show runners are using the character as a mouthpiece for themselves.
@@kellinwinslow1988 lol so much hate
@@darksider4736 Sadly this is what these people working in Hollywood inspire now. They have no real talent or ability and only see these works as a way to spread whatever message,or agendas,they are currently obsessed with. That mostly had to do with communism agendas,this the breaking down of norms and culture. If it doesn't annoy you that's a pity.
"Gandalf i am your father" Said Sauron. "Those are not the rings, that are you looking for"
These showrunners can't seriously expect us to believe they love Tolkien.
They expect normies to believe them.
@@GigglingStoners I don’t then even the normies believe them
@@ComradeCommissarYuri I guess we'll see when it starts to air
Meh i waited couple years for some 21 century piece of shit ....... Fuck that. PARODY OF LOTR~~~
It's deeply upsetting. They've gone on record by saying they're modernizing Middle-Earth and they're plotting the "erasure of Tolkien" with this series. Absolute trash. No true Tolkien fan would actually pay to watch Rings of Wokeness
Everything in the series is for selection:
strong and independent women (who are just strong, but no one shows even the minimum path of their strength formation) moreover, they lack female strength, it is hypertrophied male - testesterone!
Gay and lesbian couples whose history is more important to Amazon than the history and events in the world (although fans came for stories from the world) black hobbits, black elves who are NOT canon, no matter what anyone says, according to the law of the Middle-earth world, white elves are their physiology, they cannot be black, even considering that it is fantasy...Do you hear?
Follow the thoughts: "even considering that this is a fantasy, elves can only be white." Speaking of whites, I don't mean skin color, but European or Slavic appearance.
An elf, according to the laws of Tolkien's world, cannot look like a popuas sponge from the desert. I hope the blacks are not offended? It's just that half of you are against it too. But Amazon apparently lacks imagination and does not need a Middle-earth story.
They once again decided to shove COMPULSIVELY cram a story about oppressed minorities, which are trumpeted everywhere and when the viewer, tired of such an obsessive agenda, wants to relax and immerse himself in an interesting story about beautiful and proud elves, fighting and seasoned dwarves, bloodthirsty orcs, noble knights, vile robbers, as well as powerful magicians with their intrigues...what does the viewer see?
Again, the summons, which he did not ask for, she is already everywhere, completely ugly and not wise in the eyes of elves, intimidated, not fighting dwarves and hobbits that are not distinguishable from them at all (just nothing at all!) and the story is not about a world that is different from ours about the projection of events from ours. How convenient it is for Amazon to offend everyone with racists and haters, even if the criticism adequately says that people were waiting for the wrong thing and this is not the canon according to the laws of Middle-earth
That's why it is such a GLORIOUS self-own. They can't walk it back because it's PRINTED "truth" (theirs). The more we show people THEIR own words, the less people seem to believe what we say, because they REFUSE to see what the "creatives" themselves SAID. It's not just "selective amnesia", it's deliberate ignorance. :/
Yeah poor Tolkien must be rolling in his grave. It's as if Morgoth himself is twisting and corrupting his legacy in the most perverted of ways.
Tolkien knew it would happen.
One day the armies of the Valar will arrive, morgoth defeated, the silmarils recovered and shattered so their light can be used to revive the two trees.
Until then, the earth is doomed to shadow.
Rings of wokeness sounds so much better than Fake of the rings, thanks!