Then let him go and didn't tell a single soul who he was even when they outright asked her or that he'd just helped them make the rings. The whole plot makes no bloody sense.
She was so hell bent on finding him that she admittedly jumped to her own demise. She knew she would die by jumping off that stupid boat yet did it anyway. And the writers want us to applaud her strong moral character. 🤦🏼♀️
It's so retarded it's painful. Like, even if it was magic on Sauron's part to divine where she'd be, why tf go to all that trouble to arrange it then? Also... who tf jumps off a boat in the middle of the ocean and swims to shore? Do the writers not understand that there are ocean currents you can't outswim?
that only counts if those kindergartners have a disliking for the Mona Lisa and desperately want to "improve it" I feel like Toddlers would be less damaging.
Nah, kindergartens wouldn't fully understand what they're doing. They're just having fun painting not yo create art but to see pretty colors. These were ADULTS who damn knew the context of what they were doing and everything they were saying.
I watched the first episode and I was so confused. Why were Vulcans in Middle Earth? Is this a LOTR/Star Trek crossover? Why are there 1960s era hippies in this show? What is this screwed up mess?
I love how they go against "Toxic Masculinity" all the time. Letting "Toxic Femininity" not only go unchecked, but basically rule everything these days.
No such thing as toxic masculinity or femininity. Just people being cnuts. Calling people toxic is something 11 year olds on xbox did. Its pathetic that people do it now as adults IRL.
i argue the existence of toxic "masculinity" when women can behave exactly the same, and they are in the wokeverse, so wouldn't that just make it a universal concept of just being a toxic "personality?"
It’s because most of you “men”, by most of my research, are cucks. 85% at least. You allow women to do this and do nothing about it but excuse for them.
There is a saying that the first generation builds, the second generation preserves and the third generation spoils something. Might put these two men and Simon T next to it as an example.
I mean he does have a valid point that a film or TV adaptation doesn't need to 100% follow the book or the novel. Even in iconic literature such Frankenstein or Narnia there are major differences in narrative or detail between the books and the movies yet the movies are still great. You don't have to be a slave to canon. But ROP suffers from stiff acting, bad writing and screenplay which makes the viewing experience worse.
@@isaacm2374 But Jackson's movies left out a lot of stuff from the books. Jackson also had to add things like the dead army in Return of the King to move along the film. So no Simon does not have a valid point he's all about the money, he doesn't care about the Legacy of Tolkien.
@@UnkSpec immediately thought of that too. The son actually saw what Tolkien did, the struggle, the love, the care, and, finally, the glory. He saw what his father strived for, and what his father achieved out of it. So he had great respect for the world. Simon, on the other hand, only lived through the good parts, with an elder grandfather that probably only worried about spoiling him, as every grandfather is fond to do. Simon didn't appreciate the world, because he only experienced the glory. And now just as his great grandfather once spoiled him, Simon spoils the world for all fans. thanks, simon, i hate it
The Witcher deserves to fail also for sure. Why can't anyone just write a good TV show. I guess the powers that be at the golden globes are toxic, misogynistic and racist. Surely its not down to the terrible writing and production.
It's fun when directors talk about actors as "tough". Like fighting air or a stunt double makes you "tough". Jackie-Chan is "tough". Fighting air that's supposed to be a troll doesn't make one "tough".
It's actually horrifying that they had all the elements for a great show set up. Massive budget, lore expert, good head, and they got rid of all of it to make... this. Absolutely abysmal.
@@GeraltofRivia22 I don't know anything about Terminal list, but if you think Jack Reacher isn't full of woke pc garbage you didn't watch it very closely. Within the first 5-10 minutes of episode 1 there were at least 4 in your face instances of modernist propaganda.
Communists can bring down anything with their equality-agenda. Preventing people that are strong from acting strong is for them far more more important than overall success of a society. Instead of letting anyone do its best they feed people that are "discriminated" with effortless ressources. When you feed people with effortless success enough they turn into spoiled assholes, that cant do anything but demand everything.
Effort? What effort? This was actually an attempt to destroy culture . Been going on for about 6-10 years now. Think about your other favorite franchises. Is it making sense yet?
@@chongli3007 Yeah man, it's like this in every entertainment sector now. Video games haven't been good in years except the few sprinkles of good games here and there. Spread too far and too thin for anybody to be content. I been waiting for the woke ages to end already, how much money can these companies lose before they get their balls back?
@@naps7039 what if money isn't an issue for these companies and they are taking it from corrupted platforms or your money. Too big to fail as they say.
Nope, no 'effort' goes into shit like this. Only money. That's how privileged the elites think they are, and they're so damn arrogant to think we'll finally cave into their constantly hammering woke politics over our heads. We won't cave. We'll just tune out and drop out as we watch and play better things made before the dark times of the woke.
"I feel it in the water...I feel it in the Earth. Much that once was, is lost...For none now live, who remember it..." -I still get chills, even typing it out.
I can tell that the series is shit, by looking at the people who made it. They are all worse than any real fan, even without a degree. The main problem is the company, that shits money by underpaying theire employees though.
Amazon's one billion dollar TV show got bumped off the streaming top ten by reruns of the Gilmore Girls, a show that ended fifteen years ago. You can't make excuses for that.
My wife asked why I was laughing so hard. I said a character in the story spent a thousand years looking for someone then finally decided to check a map.
I can't get over how amateur the writing is. She even said "I must be blind." I'm surprised she didn't go with "it was here, staring me in the face the whole time." So ridiculous.
They were not standing on Tolkien's shoulder but pissing on his grave. Everyone involved in the show, mainly the tops ie. the execs, writers, producers, director deserves every hate, dislike, criticism, etc. coming to them. I doubt any of them even read the books.
kind a hard though when they could only use the appendixes, can thank the current Tolkien owners for not letting them us more, thought they couldve acted mroe better to the criticism
It says something that every time they write a "strong" female character she's always narcissistic and gets everyone around her killed, like a villain but without the competence.
For a thousand years, Galadriel has been on a bloodthirsty revenge tour to find the guy who killed her brother. Her HUSBAND is apparently dead too but that's not a big deal to her. Screw him.
It was probably a dig at his father, Christopher, who kicked him out of the Estate (they eventually reconciled) supposedly for initially shilling for the Jackson films to try and make money despite Christopher telling the members of the Estate that he didn't want them involved with the then upcoming films. Simon thought they should try and make money off them somehow no matter the quality of the films. Christopher denied that this was the reason for their estrangement, though he was against adaptations and thought they could never be faithful and thought Jackson was making basic action films (J. R. R. was forced to sell the rights in the 60s due to financial trouble and there were some horrendous adaptation attempts before Jackson came along). Simon admitted later that there were "other reasons" besides his shilling that caused the estrangement but they eventually reconciled and he, unfortunately, became the head of the Estate.
@@Fardawg He should've never been allowed to become the head of the Estate, the first thing that he's done after the death of his father is to give the rights to Amazon to destroy and distort his grandfather and father's life works for nothing but money. He's responsible for this abomination of a show.
Simon all those fans refusing to watch RoP is doing your estate a favor by trying to preserve your grandfather's work/IP. It could go the way of Star Wars... a half-dead franchise.
Sometimes when I hear actors speaking about the amazingness of their roles in these sh*t projects, whether film or tv, I often wonder, 'do you ACTUALLY believe what you're saying, or can you feel your soul dying since this is a contractual obligation??'
@Gen TH-cam naw, they’re just employees that are legally bound to promote and sell and make money for overlords like every one else. But their job is fantasy and wonder and everyone love them for it.
Part dumb and crazy, part contractual obligation and part defense mechanism! If you want to have an ounce of self-respect and sanity you really can't perceive the show you made as what it truly is.
They do it because of money. Making bad publicity for the own movie is like losing your contracts. Nobody will hire you when you could talking shit about their Projects. So they will lie to everyone just getting more jobs. Like in our life when we have job interviews and just talk about all the good lied stuff they wanna hear about us.
@@victoriajohnson4420 But the make-up and costuming department forgot to take care of her hair. That hair which is supposed to have captured some of the light of the Trees, so that even a single strand was worth more than any amount of gold and jewels. Nope. Not much shine in evidence.
@@pohjanakka4992 But that's canon, and we can't be following some old white dude's ideas. Besides, the real Galadriel was well over six feet tall, most say 6'4", while Guyladriel is tiny, and a great example of the Napoleon Complex.
That is really the perfect quote to describe this creative bankruptcy, and in fact the whole woke nightmare we're all now living. They just twist and corrupt everything that was once good, in their self-righteous crusade for a "better world" (mOrE iNcLuSiViTy aNd DiVeRsiTy).
@@alexmottley8890 @alexmottley8890 from what I understand is that evil cannot create something that deeply touches the heart and soul and make people transcend ... It has no light or truth so its just a reflection of the most base things that exist in the world and in humans ... Tolkien was spiritual and connected to God, that's his inspiration... If his books had that much success and the movie after that its because it's truthful ... Souls recognize truth or real beauty when they see it🕊️
It’s really scary how few people have so much power over IP’s, and can do so much harm to IP’s. It’s such a disservice. Theirs so many artists out there who can tell great stories, direct great cinema, and stay true to the source.
And make it one of the most watched and replayed series in history! They've not only made their money back, but have committed to 4 more seasons! And I for one am VERY happy they did.
Too faithful to anything is never, in itself, a fault. There's no such thing as too faithful to your wife, or too faithful to God, or your friends, or what you believe in. What an insane thing for that man to say.
When talking about an adaptation of a work, I think there's some truth in the idea that one can be too faithful to the original. Books and films are very different media and we consume them in very different ways so things that work in a book can be difficult if not impossible to translate into film and still be interesting and entertaining. Stuff like the level of detail and complexity of ideas - with a book you can stop to think about it for as long as you want and you can go back and re-read a section if you need a reminder or clarification, but it doesn't work in a film. Internal monologs are another thing that works well in print and is used a lot by some authors, but they're hard to translate into something that works on screen and even then it only works well in small amounts.
I've literally never heard of anyone complaining about a source of media being "to faithful" it's always the other way around. Man seems like a brainlet.
Peter Jackson's adaptation may not be perfect, but by god, his passion for the lore and the story is undeniable. He didn't push any agenda or message, he just told the story. It is a far stretch to call this series an "adapatation" as very little from the book has truly been adapted. Oh, and I think Simon needs to do a DNA test - how is he a TOLKIEN?!
Never in the field of human culture was so much, loved by so many, destroyed by so few with so little talent. If human culture were to last another thousand years, people would still say, this was their shitest hour.
It's a very simple show, meant for very simple people. It wasn't made for people that read the books. But remember guys, in a few years this will all be forgotten, but the books will still be there, forever.
I'm not sure to whom they were catering tbh. I can't speak for those who have not read the books. I don't really know how they see or feel about it. But it seems to me the series is very bad regardless of the Lore. Especially the writing, for both plot and characters' depiction. Take Halbrand, for example. Those of us that know the Lore, already know that "Annatar" in the books is Sauron, because it isn't a mystery for the reader. The Elves don't know that, but the readers do, because both the F.A and S.A, and the appendices in the LOTR, are written in some sort of a historical chronicle of the world of Middle-earth and its peoples. If they followed Tolkien, it would've been much more satisfying for both audiences (book readers and non), because it would've still been a surprise for the casual viewers. They would've been watching the whole thing from the POV of the Elves, so to speak, and the book readers would've been happy to see them following the Lore. But by twisting Sauron's story and trying hard to conceal his identity even from the book readers, they made a big mess out of it. That whole story didn't make any sense and it affected the Elves story, their nature, character and motivations in a very negative way, especially Galadriel. To make a comparison with GOT, it's like twisting Ned's death, the Red Wedding, or Joffrey's death, just so they could "surprise" the book readers too. That's not how a good story work. Say you want to adapt Iliad or Aeneid, or Shakespeare. Are you going to change the most important characters and events just because people are familiar with those stories? That's the worse approach a writer could take when making an adaptation.
Also remember, that Rings of Power is the fantasy standard being set for Gen Z. We know it's shit because we have the benefit of context. We watched LotR in the theaters and many of us have also read the books. This generation doesn't have that knowledge and understanding to fall back on. To many of them, Rings of Power IS Tolkien's Lord of the Rings. And that's the real crime that's been comitted by these cultural vandals.
I disagree. Even if you've never heard of LotR and you're watching the show with a clean slate, there are problems with the storytelling, costumes, special effects, etc. These things are unacceptable in any show worth watching.
It would have been great to see Galadriel use her powerful magic in the series since she was a mage and all...not a sword wielding armor wearing warrior.
@@janpolednik5012 To be fair, she is quite capable of both spell casting and sword play as all elves are. This show seemed to forget that and how badass Jackson made it look when both swordplay and spell casting are combined into one scene/fight (Galadriel being a boss in The Hobbit, Gandalf channeling the secret fire into his sword etc etc).
@@ashes2diamond Yes, The Hobbit did it right I liked that Elrond basically used a katana. Elves and slightly curved blades/katanas are a match. I dunno, this show is just oen big letdown. I was so thrilled to learn how exactly were the rings made, what kind of magic was used etc...but none of that was being shown. Just some random hobo/gondor ("numenor") crap. I hate
So she was chasing Sauron for more than 1,000 years, but then it became so urgent even though Sauron was nowhere near, that she had to kill some of her elven crew because of her panic.
Her soldiers, who loyally followed her for a thousand years, are in Valinor, their last memory of Middle Earth being their commander abandoning them in favor of drowning in the ocean. Even the Valar can't heal all wounds.
Thank the maker for people like Gary and Critical Drinker for these videos. They are far more entertaining than the actual show/movies that are rife with identity politics.
@@theupperechelon7634 because it’s easier to hijack established popular (very popular actually) IP and gender/race flip it than it is to create new IP.
I must have watched 5+ hours of quality content critiquing each hour long episode that I'll never, ever watch. And that's why streaming is in big trouble.
That Tolkien's grandson, Simon, criticizes Peter Jackson for putting too much of his grandfather's books into The Lord of the Rings movies tells you all you really need to know. "Hey, let's make a show based on the world my grandfather created, but let's change everything and only use the names of the people and places, mmm-kay?"
That shit made me feel old testament disgust. Makes me wish God would break His pinky promise not to flood us again and just wash away everything and everyone
How dumb is this.... huMANkind > MANkind > MAN > woMAN(womb-man). The words woman and man are both derivatives of human. A swordsMAN is the same thing as a swordswoman or swordshuman. If anything, men are being ripped of by not having their own prefix. Fking dumbasses get upset about words they don't understand.
reminds me of League of legends. the damage dealers aka adc/ad carry/attack damage carry (opposite of magic damage) were all or mostly ranged damage dealers, so marksman so someone comes and says, hey why 'marksman', why no 'markswoman' ? shit you not, it's not a joke. they started calling them 'marksperson'. and LOL is even famous for half of their champions being female, well, overly sexualized, but still, I think it's still something, it's not an adaptation of anything, it's an original game, and Arcane was based on that, and doing well.
It's completely in line with what access media and the PR campaign has been about on this show. Like the superfans saying "I love the movies BUT..." or more recently articles saying that the trilogy has been far from perfect (the ones granting it a five star review back when nothing was about wokeness). They must first destroy the past to bring in their new cult. Just like they do IRL with western history, telling us how bad Colombus was just so they can bring in their agenda.
I honestly can't imagine normies do it, the only people i can imagine could've like this garbage are the people that doesn't seek engagement nor immerse themselves in the history and watch it in the background while doing something else or just watching it for the pretty lights without even trying to understand whats going on, but even then RoP is too slow and boring for that so i don't get what kind of people could enjoy it
why is that bad? a capitalist pig like bezos lost a good amount of money. that should be celebrated. like the twitter fiasco and tesla stocks dropping faster than sandy hook kids.
I just finished watching Return of the King and finished the entire set again this season , still a masterpiece, what Amazon has done is nothing less than vandalism!!!
It's really impressive how they managed to make every aspect of this series look second-rate: acting, costumes, makeup, 'script', sets, stunts, editing, and effects. I do quite like that green dress Mary Sueladriel is wearing though.
I'm so glad that Christopher never had to see this butchery of his father's work. He held the breach against defiling of the lore like a King. Right down to whose voices could be used for audiobooks.
I laughed so hard at the "Numenoreans" depicted in the show. In a real Numenor, exactly zero would be black, oriental, polynesian, persian, indian, hispanic, or anything else except an idealized _northwestern european_ ethnicity. And the Numenoreans were very protective of their literally blessed bloodline. And, as for size and strength, think someone built like Chris Evans as Captain America as an AVERAGE Numenorean warrior. And a Chris Hemsworth would not be rare. They were powerful, large men. Not like those skinny, small idiots in the show (and their fake Tar-Miriel).
I had to laugh how woke minorities and non-whites are pretending to be numbernorns and how real fans like us are being ignorned by the woke globalists running the show
That's very ironic to see when the Numenorians could have been the posterboys of imperialism and hubris in an "enlightened" TV series interpretation. The fall of Numenor could have both tragic and well deserved and stayed true to the books.
Guyladriel displayed no elvish wisdom, womanly grace, or magic power in this entire series. She was literally an idiot that ran around swinging a sword and didn’t know where the Fortress of Angbad was (despite it being very well-known). I’m still not even sure what was so enlightening about the sign she revealed in the fortress. All the elves knew Sauron had escaped and was still lurking around, they just weren’t sure what his capabilities were or who he was trying to influence. I think the worst thing the writers did was screw up the storyline so bad there is no way to work in the deceit of Anatar, the forging of the other rings, the destruction of Numenor, the building of Gondor, the fall of Eregion, etc. I still can’t believe they did this to Tolkien.
Yeah, same for me: I must confess that at times I feel an obscure desire... That these folks should shit some more stuff: not that I will ever even remotely consider watching it (God forbid), but having Gary creating more of this wonderful content, oh, please, yes!!
My first introduction to Fantasy was The Lord of rings movies I was blown away. I immediately got the BIG RED all in one Lord of the Rings book and I was hooked for life on Tolkien & Fantasy. The way with series played out was heartbreaking 💔 I did not watch 1 second of it & I never will ! Let's just hope sometime in the Future when WOKE is DEAD ☠️ someone with a love for the Magic of Tolkien will have the ability to inspire the next generation of Tolkien Nuts . Amazon has let down an entire generation 😢
I own and cherish my "big red" LoTR book. I don't actually read it because I don't want to harm it. It's an irreplaceable heirloom to me. I swear it feels a bit like the actual Red Book of Westmarch to me.
hopefully they would be able to make a better tolkien series, but consiering the Tolkien house prolly wouldnt let it happen, i wouldnt hold my breath, think taht was prolly a reason ring of power suffered because of the family holding out.
Two things I think add to this: Christopher Tolkien basically disinherited his son Simon during the making of the Jackson films, kicking him out of the Estate, though in later years they reconciled and Simon obviously became the head of the Estate. According to Simon himself this was over Simon initially shilling for the Jackson films despite orders from Christopher that he didn't want any Estate members involved directly in the films. Christopher didn't want LOTR adapted (he thought it was impossible to adapt faithfully) and thought Jackson was turning them into basic action films (there is also the fact that his father was basically forced to sell the rights in the 60s due to financial problems and there was likely resentment in the way attempted adaptations were handled after that). Simon thought the family should try and make money off the Jackson films by attaching themselves to the films in some way and he disobeyed his father's orders. Christopher himself denied that this was the reason for the estrangement and Simon later admitted that there were other unstated reasons on top of the Jackson stuff. I believe, with not much hard evidence, that Simon allowed Amazon to make a mess of ROP for the "consultant" title he had and possibly more money. All that ties into the second thing: In that Shippey article he gave what I thought was very positive news at the time. He essentially said that the production was supposed to use what Tolkien wrote on the Second Age as canon material for their show, enforced through the Estate (with Simon being the head of that, remember) but were allowed to fill in the blanks to get from point to point along the timeline as long as the "facts" remained intact. He also mentioned that in the production teaser that had just come out that a name was missing. I believe he said the guy that was missing was a writer or director for the whole project and that something must have changed. I don't know if that was one of the names Gary mentioned or not. But given what we got with the actual show, what he said about having to stick to Tolkien as canon clearly changed and that missing name was likely a casualty of the change. Unbeknownst to him, Shippey would be another casualty. As I said, I think Simon changed the initial stipulation to be faithful to Tolkien and likely got something in return. Shippey messed things up for the production by repeating the initial plan which was now out, and Simon got what I believe was the sole "consultant" credit on the show.
Met Gary at LA Comic Con a few weeks back, thank you for taking a moment out of your busy day to talk to me and shake my hand. Just wanted to say again that I love your videos, particularly the thumbnails and LOTR stuff. Keep up the good work buddy, cheers!
The thing that blows me away the most was when he said he had no idea how they were going to write into this already-written story how the rings were supposed to be "magic" so he just hoped that the audience would just assume they were so. They literally named the entire show after these rings, and they had literally NO PLAN on how they were going to incorporate them. I just. It's... WHATTTT?????
the worst of it all is that it shows how little they know of the actual lore they are working with. In The Silmarillion (which clearly they didn't bother to read), Tolkien actually tells why and how the rings were powerful. If they just followed it, they didn't needed to bother lmao it's a given
Thats a bingo. What gets me is: how do these people have jobs? They couldn't run a lemonade stand if you squeezed the lemonade for them. They'd be sitting around all day trying to figure out how to put the lemon juice back into the lemons so they could make the lemonade.
@@segueoyuri i really hope so, theres this extremely small minority which might likes these woke disasters, but the majority of the people hate it (as the profits also show)
Since Halbrand's actor had no idea that his character was Sauron at first I feel like even the writers did not know until writing the scripts and finally just threw a dart at a random character and it just happened to land on him.
Nah the writers knew lol, I don't know how he couldn't know though, it's so obvious, the show really smacks you over the head with all the clues, it's not subtle at all. So either he's saying that just to try to pretend that the writing isn't awful and obvious, to cover for the show, or he's really not a very intelligent person.
LOTR trilogy was hated when that was released as well by the same type of book nerds with RoP. PJ was hated for changes he made. I'm wondering now after Hobbit's view of change if RoP will have the same in the future. I guess we will find out how they will deal with this critique for the future, though I guess its still out their hands when can't use the rights Simon isn't giving them.
@@nijjijjion204 Tbh, I liked some of the changes from the book in the movies. Aragorn in the books was already accepting his role. In the movies, he grew more into it, which made it awesome. While we didn't get Dunedin along with Elladan and Elrohir, we instead got to know more about the Rohirrium, which made the loss of Theoden all the greater (and man, Bernard Hill did an amazing job with that character). Also with the Hobbit, they have the most lore-accurate wargs. Instead of the prehistoric creatures seen in the LotR or the cartoony rat/chihuahua/hedgehog THING in RoP. There's a fan edit somewhere online (can't link it because TH-cam sucks like that) where they made the three Hobbit movies more like the book and it turned out great. I recommend looking for it.
@@nijjijjion204 I was there, the PJ films were widely well received, there will always be some people complaining but they were a tiny, tiny minority. Don't forget those films grossed a trillion dollars at the box office, with a budget that was 1/3 of what they spent on the first season of this show. Everybody went to see them, the audience score for these films in RT is over 90%, compared to 38% right now for the Rings of Power. They are light years apart in terms of how well received they were by Tolkien fans...or anything else for that matter.
hi nerdrotic, I am from Saudi Arabia, and I like the videos that you provide, and I hope that you will continue to provide this wonderful content, because there were many male and female characters that I loved, but they were destroyed
It seems to be the mission of hollywood, amazon, netflix and the rest of the entertainment industry to destroy masculine characters, honorable and decent and even normal characters in literature, fiction and also history.
Simon: “Sauron should be like Walter White.” These genius show runners: “ok, you heard the man! Sauron is going to grow and sell Longbottom Leaf in season 2!”
The streaming format, used sensibly, could have enabled an episodic approach well-suited to telling stories from the Silmarillion in a way that feature cinema could not. Instead there is this.
Ah yes I'm sure you know, my fellow devout racists, that disliking this show in any form and for any reason is actually the full and entire entry ceremony of the KKK. Bigotry awaits you!
I feel like complaining that the LOTR movies are too faithful to the books is like complaining to the chef that your meal was too good and that next time he should see about including some hair and undercooked poultry in it.
"You can't buy your way into the Tolkien fandom" That's exactly how Tolkien fans are.We care about quality,not the money..I hate the Billion dollar RoP but love the 20k budget "Born of Hope" fan made film about the birth of Aragorn.
This is like those soccer clips where it looks hard to miss a completely open goal from a few yards out but they still manage to sky it. Truly head-shaking how they managed to fail against overwhelming odds of success.
The have become the very personification of greed. I mean, how much money do you want and need? They have plenty. The books have been published non stop for years now, not to mention all the rights from the movies, games and merchandise. Geezers!
@@saelind73 To be fair, the son, Christopher, cared very much about his father's works. It's only now that we're down to the grandchild that we have greed problems.
@@solan7978 It is like that old saying, it takes one generation to build something great, the next one can maintain it, but the third one will squander it.
@@solan7978 Exactly. I have nothing but the utmost respect for what Christopher has done. He dedicated his whole life to preserve his father's work and legacy, and he did that magnificently. What I'm saying is more does the Tolkien Estate wants now? The hard work has been done by Tolkien and his son, Christopher, and the Estate has accumulated plenty of money in the process. The only job they have is to preserve their legacy and don't cause any damage. That's it.
they thought it was hard to make 3 rings seem magical, yet Peter Jackson made the one ring feel magical from the literal first minute with music and visuals. They really should have given this show to Peter Jackson. And i really don't get why these companies keep shooting themselves in the foot.
That statement stood out for me as well. Hollywood's stock in trade is making the ordinary seem magical. They once made us believe a pair of red shoes could teleport you from Oz to Kansas. They sold people on the notion that Lucky Charms cereal is "magically delicious" for Pete's sake. The entertainment field now seems full of people who are seriously lacking in the basic skills of their own business.
@@stinkleaf ''The great reset'' xD My god the stupidity of people. It's not a worldwide mega ultra secret scheme that you somehow discovered thanks to some TH-cam videos and a few blogs written by undereducated swines. It's just greed, plain and basic fucking greed. It's way easier to use a trashy plot and to put money into CGI than to create a cohesive and well-thought piece of art. The shareholders expect money all the time, that puts pressure onto the employees to put out something fast. That's what you get. Now go finish highschool at least, and then maybe a bachelor degree in philosophy could help (don't skip the courses on logic).
After a thousand years of being stalked across Middle Earth by a crazy elven lady called Guyladriel. Sauron decides to put a RING on her finger and make an honest villain out of her! - Almost literally the Amazon script for Rings Of Power. Am I wrong?🤔😵💫😭
You know, I'm really tempted to make the obligatory "still a better love story than Twilight" joke, but at this point? I'm not even sure it'd be valid. RoP be so bad it breaks even memes.
Was he not loved as a child? Why did he sell out his father's work? Did he not grow out of the rebellious phase of supporting the ideology that is diametrically opposite to his father's?
@@jonathangable127 the problem is he tried to be a writer then discovered his writing just wasn't popular and well yeah you can see where things went from there.
Can I just say this : in the first second after you've stabbed a troll, EVEN if you have a doctorate in Troll Physiology, and EVEN if you have X ray vision to see where your sword went, it is NOT safe to assume he's instantly disabled, and so it's NOT the time to turn your back to him and perform a vainglorious pointless spinning trick with your sword.
@@KSmithwick1989 I think it depends on the overall tone of the franchise. It would have looked great in Charlies Angels or any superhero flick, but in the Lord of the Rings is just cringe.
The worst part was her twisting her bastard/greatsword inside the the leathery and thick body of a troll. IT'S a sword, not a drill and that troll is not a blob of slime!
I just convinced my girlfrined, who never watched/read anyithing about lotr, to watch the original trilogy and she really enjoyed it, we watched the full 10+hrs in the matter of days. Now we are watching The hobbit and she starts to point out how the mood is not the same and it's way less immersive, but we are slowly getting through it. I don't have the strenght to also show her the series :(
Time is the one true test of quality. In ten years, people will still be talking about the Jackson films and this show will just be a curious piece of history that's barely remembered.
'At the end of the day these are three rings, and there's nothing you can do to make them magic.' Meanwhile, Tetsuro Araki is making writing names on a notebook, and eating potato chips look like some of the most epic things you can do as a human being. Sounds a lot like cope from being unqualified.
It's the story of a female elf, female human, blind black female human, builder female, female hobbit, fat female hobbit, brown female dwarf, female woke wizards, and the only black elf other than the evil dark uruk trying to make gender neutral jewelry. I think there were male and non woke storylines in the show but I can't remember because I fell asleep.
They stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as they could, and before they even knew what they had, they patented it, and packaged it, and slapped it on a plastic lunchbox, and now they wanna sell it.
Truly, RoP is an historic event. A balance-shifting one. I have the advantage of not being a LotR fan (I do like it very much and I see all its merits, don't get me wrong), so I'm being optimistic about this: it's a good thing, a great thing even, that RoP is so objectively bad, because it makes a very clear line between those who will just eat whatever garbage is offered, and those who have self-respect and respect for the IP's and its authors. There's just no way to defend RoP. In a few years everyone who defended it will pretend they hated it as much as we do. And all fandoms will have gained a sense of their importance; of the authority (and the duty) they have. So, thanks RoP, thank you for being so histerically, bafflingly abysmal. edit: fans of LotR (true fans), I am sorry RoP happened. I can imagine how frustrating its existence is. But consider it a sacrifice required in order to save the very art of storytelling. We the casual, but still actual fans of LotR, thank you. Stand proud against the abomination.
It wasn’t a sacrifice. RoP is so disconnected from what it tried to rip off that it barely did anything except, once again, humiliated morons who thought they could make this Star Wars.
I like your optimism, but I gotta say: this is not the first terrible adaptation of Tolkien's work... and it may not even be the worst. Seriously. There's some garbage-tier stuff out there. It's terrible, sure. But I think if the past teaches us anything, it's both that Tolkien's legacy will be almost completely unaffected by this and that fandom and Hollywood will learn almost nothing from this. Things just keep rolling on. Props to Tolkien for being so bulletproof, though! It's no wonder that everyone wants to be him.
The first time I uttered the words, "I wish my beloved legendarium had a worthy series of the 1-3 age" was almost 20 years ago... I waited nearly 20 years for this disaster. 😆 🤣 😂
Funnily enough, I'm not particularly put out by its existence; but that requires some elaboration. For starters it is not Tolkien or even Tolkien inspired so I just chucked it in the bin. Once Star Wars happened I knew they would eventually come for Tolkien, and seek to either corrupt or destroy it because so many of them actively hate what it stands for, and I couldn't be more proud that the people soundly rejected Rings of Prime. I do believe it marks the turning of the tide. What is far more irksome are the sycophants amongst the Tolkien fandom who are serving the role of Grima Wormtongue. It is one thing to enjoy something that you know is objectively bad; it is another to point out the positives or the potential in something that you dislike and is otherwise poorly made; and it is quite another to claim that you are a diehard fan of something and just mindlessly consume whatever shit has a legally sanctioned label slapped on it that says this thing is the thing you love and the actual contents be damned. And then go on to attack those who dare to point out those things you think are chocolates are, in fact, shit. But worst of all are those who should know better, but for whatever reason have decided to make themselves the enemy of their fellow fans because, again, they dared say 'no, we do not accept this, we have standards'. Long story short, there is a reason Dante assigned the lowest circle of Hell to traitors.
@@NathanCassidy721 A thousand times this. Rings of Power makes the Star Wars Sequels look good. Unlike those it doesn't hurt or impact Tolkiens work in the slightest. If it had been at least mediocre enough for normies to watch, THEN the damage would have been much better.
At some point they realized how expensive the show was going to be and sent an intern to the local grocery store with $5 and vague instructions and he came back with the elven rings of plastic
Oh, we have our 3 most important rings ever here, how we gonna design them? like somebody made his first ever steps with gold wire! also make them as unpractical as possible please! and add uncut gems to complete the look of backyard hobby goldsmithing!
Too faithful to the book. Needed more character. One glance by Aragorn spoke of the whole history and nobility of Gondor. A tear from Sam told of the burden of the fight against evil, of loyalty and love and loss. No need to say "There is a tempest in me!"
I like the way Nerdrotic treats this and other disaster shows like he was dealing with a cocky student who thought he was great and then gets brought up before the teacher to show him the enormity of the errors in his work.
Tom cruise jumps across 400ft gaps hangs on the sides of planes while taking off, and jumps motorcycles off of cliffs then pulls his shoot, Meanwhile she is fighting an imaginary troll and she should be praised for that? 🤣🤣🤣
"You know why ship floats and stone can't?" it would be at least comedically brilliant if he proceeded to explain Galadri-lad the principals of buoyancy 'Sheldon' style :D
Beacuse density of a ship is made of wood and thus the density of water outweighs the density of wood. In turn the water pushes the ship upwards trough Arkimedes principal. Why stone in turn doesn't float is beacuse the density of a stone outweighs the density of water. Therefore it sinks. Or you could say the wood looks at the sky. And break every physical principal known about Arkimedes principal. "Reflect the world we live in" well atleast get the psyhics done right then?
I still can't get over how they missed the actual elvish style (horribly written) allegories: "A ship made from wood carries the spirit of the trees, and harness the light, wind, and support all that crawl across her roots. A stone, cut from the body of the earth, provides the foundations for all living things. Water flows over such a solid base, making cradles of life in lakes, rivers, oceans." Then lead that into Elves being light and air like boats, and Dwarves the foundations of mountains. Then you're set up for an overarching metaphor in Elrond's story arch.
Well, it was on this hallowed day that I learned that the reason why a ship floats and a stone sinks is that the ship is looking up. What a pinnacle of writing that was.
The writing is second only to the line Shakespeare wrote, if I'm not mistaken, in Much A'doo About Nothing: "Perchance it be yellow, let it mellow; be it brown flush it down."
The shame is that since elves live 1000s of years they easily could have had the elven characters be the immortal through line through different periods.
Amazon should just go full send and have Kathyleen Kenedy make season 2 of "Rings of Wokeness" while wearing a shirt that says "I spit on your grave" with Tolkien's headstone on it.
Awesome take. Between you, Disparu, and George the Giant Slayer, I never have to watch another second of RoP crap on Amazon. You gentlemen will cover it all honestly. Thanks and happy holidays :)
I would absolutely love it the Peter Jackson Lord of The Rings trilogy (EXTENDED VERSIONS) were re-released in theaters. I would absolutely go see them all.
The problem of "creative" people and studio execs thinking they know better and "deserve" to be able to capitalize on the creations of others is the tale as old as time. Nothing like trying to create a movie/show for a fictional property, get everything that the fans of that property like about it completely wrong, and then trying to act like it is the fanbase that is the problem when they don't like it.
Too faithful to the work of one of the most legendary fantasy authors of all time is bad?
For real, that quote is absurd in any franchise/saga
Alas but remember, these people are idiots.
@@justmeok2 GARY IS SEXIST
He's got a chip on his shoulders the size of London.
He's just a jealous, resentful country music fan, minus the -ry music fan part.
She's just so good at searching for Sauron that after a thousand years she finally finds him randomly in the middle of the ocean.
Then let him go and didn't tell a single soul who he was even when they outright asked her or that he'd just helped them make the rings. The whole plot makes no bloody sense.
She was so hell bent on finding him that she admittedly jumped to her own demise.
She knew she would die by jumping off that stupid boat yet did it anyway.
And the writers want us to applaud her strong moral character. 🤦🏼♀️
A super-power indeeed
It's so retarded it's painful.
Like, even if it was magic on Sauron's part to divine where she'd be, why tf go to all that trouble to arrange it then?
Also... who tf jumps off a boat in the middle of the ocean and swims to shore?
Do the writers not understand that there are ocean currents you can't outswim?
Brute force searching 🤣🤣🤣
This entire show is the equivalent of letting kindergarteners fingerpaint all over the Mona Lisa
The perfect way to put it
that only counts if those kindergartners have a disliking for the Mona Lisa and desperately want to "improve it"
I feel like Toddlers would be less damaging.
Nah, kindergartens wouldn't fully understand what they're doing. They're just having fun painting not yo create art but to see pretty colors.
These were ADULTS who damn knew the context of what they were doing and everything they were saying.
...or EnvironMentalists.
- while the terrible recorder music plays in background-
After the first episode of Rings of Power, I understand why Saron wanted to destroy everything.
They put us on Sauron's side 😅
@@CamaradeJuk Villains in stories are always better written, yet all the protagonists in ROP seem like antagonists, they definitely antagonised me.
Same goes for Thanos and the Marvel Universe.
I watched the first episode and I was so confused. Why were Vulcans in Middle Earth? Is this a LOTR/Star Trek crossover? Why are there 1960s era hippies in this show? What is this screwed up mess?
@@CamaradeJuk Sauron had a point.
I love how they go against "Toxic Masculinity" all the time.
Letting "Toxic Femininity" not only go unchecked, but basically rule everything these days.
So many men sit with their legs close together so they don't get called out for manspreading by toxic feminists
woman can't be toxic did you not know that? its a new law introduced like 2 years ago
No such thing as toxic masculinity or femininity.
Just people being cnuts.
Calling people toxic is something 11 year olds on xbox did. Its pathetic that people do it now as adults IRL.
i argue the existence of toxic "masculinity" when women can behave exactly the same, and they are in the wokeverse, so wouldn't that just make it a universal concept of just being a toxic "personality?"
It’s because most of you “men”, by most of my research, are cucks. 85% at least. You allow women to do this and do nothing about it but excuse for them.
Simon Tolkien really emphasises that talent isn't hereditary.
There is a saying that the first generation builds, the second generation preserves and the third generation spoils something.
Might put these two men and Simon T next to it as an example.
I mean he does have a valid point that a film or TV adaptation doesn't need to 100% follow the book or the novel. Even in iconic literature such Frankenstein or Narnia there are major differences in narrative or detail between the books and the movies yet the movies are still great. You don't have to be a slave to canon. But ROP suffers from stiff acting, bad writing and screenplay which makes the viewing experience worse.
Haha
@@isaacm2374 But Jackson's movies left out a lot of stuff from the books. Jackson also had to add things like the dead army in Return of the King to move along the film. So no Simon does not have a valid point he's all about the money, he doesn't care about the Legacy of Tolkien.
@@UnkSpec immediately thought of that too. The son actually saw what Tolkien did, the struggle, the love, the care, and, finally, the glory. He saw what his father strived for, and what his father achieved out of it. So he had great respect for the world. Simon, on the other hand, only lived through the good parts, with an elder grandfather that probably only worried about spoiling him, as every grandfather is fond to do. Simon didn't appreciate the world, because he only experienced the glory. And now just as his great grandfather once spoiled him, Simon spoils the world for all fans.
thanks, simon, i hate it
No show deserves to fail more.
Agreed, but Willow sure the hell is giving it all they got to dethrone ROP
@Carl Gunderson - Agreed. She-Hulk definitely has more than enough material to make a compelling argument.
The witcher: hold my beer
The Witcher deserves to fail also for sure. Why can't anyone just write a good TV show.
I guess the powers that be at the golden globes are toxic, misogynistic and racist. Surely its not down to the terrible writing and production.
@@Carl_Gunderson She Hulk at the very least is about a d list superhero. Rings of Power deals with the most epic of fantasy writing in history.
It's fun when directors talk about actors as "tough". Like fighting air or a stunt double makes you "tough". Jackie-Chan is "tough". Fighting air that's supposed to be a troll doesn't make one "tough".
Jackie Chan is a LEGEND. And tough doesn't even cover it with him. Let's all go back and watch more Jackie Chan!
I know I can't stand it. "She's just so tough she swung around that foam sword & dove on the floor cushions like 5 times"
Jackie chan does his own stunts that what I call tough and about most of his own stunts almost killed him.
It's actually horrifying that they had all the elements for a great show set up. Massive budget, lore expert, good head, and they got rid of all of it to make... this. Absolutely abysmal.
It was impossible for it to be any good coming from Amazon. It was doomed from the start.
@@FinrodFelagund5 If that is the case, there is no hope for Warhammer or God of War either.
@@FinrodFelagund5 well, there's the Terminal List and Jack Reacher.
@@GeraltofRivia22 I don't know anything about Terminal list, but if you think Jack Reacher isn't full of woke pc garbage you didn't watch it very closely. Within the first 5-10 minutes of episode 1 there were at least 4 in your face instances of modernist propaganda.
Communists can bring down anything with their equality-agenda. Preventing people that are strong from acting strong is for them far more more important than overall success of a society. Instead of letting anyone do its best they feed people that are "discriminated" with effortless ressources. When you feed people with effortless success enough they turn into spoiled assholes, that cant do anything but demand everything.
"Rings of Power announces an all-female slate of directors for season two."
They really can't help themselves, can they?
Public: "yeah, but, will season two be good?"
Amazon: "I don't understand the question."
I can't wait, the reviews will be hilarious, we will be laughing about this for a a decade while re-reading Tolkien.
Hahaha
Surprised they didn't do this at the get go. Guess they waited for the disaster of the first before they did it just to find stooges.
They must students of the Kathleen Kennedy School of Misandry
It's actually impressive how much effort went into making this the worst possible experience created in media.
Effort? What effort? This was actually an attempt to destroy culture . Been going on for about 6-10 years now. Think about your other favorite franchises. Is it making sense yet?
It's only an experience if you force yourself to sit through it. I wouldn't unless I was paid more than $35 per hour.
@@chongli3007 Yeah man, it's like this in every entertainment sector now. Video games haven't been good in years except the few sprinkles of good games here and there. Spread too far and too thin for anybody to be content. I been waiting for the woke ages to end already, how much money can these companies lose before they get their balls back?
@@naps7039 what if money isn't an issue for these companies and they are taking it from corrupted platforms or your money. Too big to fail as they say.
Nope, no 'effort' goes into shit like this. Only money. That's how privileged the elites think they are, and they're so damn arrogant to think we'll finally cave into their constantly hammering woke politics over our heads.
We won't cave. We'll just tune out and drop out as we watch and play better things made before the dark times of the woke.
Cate Blanchetts intro in the Fellowship is somehow more comprehensive in its 5 minutes than the whole series.
I remember watching FotR as a kid all the way back in 2001 when the movie first came to theaters. I STILL get goosebumps hearing her narration.
The intro is better then the whole amazon series, i still get chills hearing Cate Blanchett voice
"I feel it in the water...I feel it in the Earth. Much that once was, is lost...For none now live, who remember it..." -I still get chills, even typing it out.
@@WickedWoden Same
I can tell that the series is shit, by looking at the people who made it. They are all worse than any real fan, even without a degree. The main problem is the company, that shits money by underpaying theire employees though.
The only reason the writers and producers of this show went "back to the book" was to see what NOT to include in it.
Books? Do they mean the books that they don’t have the rights to?
these 'writers' went back to Tolkien, read one page, and realized they don't like literature at all: it's so boring and it gives you a headache
Looking for loopholes much like Bible readers like me tend to do. I couldn't even imagine this crowd redoing The Greatest Story Ever Told.
@@ocboy5163 a talented writter can still make a good story even if limited with what they have access to.
Stop making excuses for them.
@@ocboy5163 they er.... did have access to the books, its called the Silmarillion.
Amazon's one billion dollar TV show got bumped off the streaming top ten by reruns of the Gilmore Girls, a show that ended fifteen years ago.
You can't make excuses for that.
Looking forward to a billion dollar Gilmore girls reboot.
I think you mean on Prime, but great point.
That really is a good example of what wrong isn't it.
That show is terrible as well.
@@nicoleackerman205 It had better acting, tho.
My wife asked why I was laughing so hard. I said a character in the story spent a thousand years looking for someone then finally decided to check a map.
Lmao 🤣🤣🤣 yesssss me too. I actually spent A LOT of the time laughing at the absurdity of everything in this show.
I can't get over how amateur the writing is. She even said "I must be blind." I'm surprised she didn't go with "it was here, staring me in the face the whole time." So ridiculous.
Apparently no ones read a map before. At least the elves didn't.
But only after she randomly happened to bump into him in the middle of an ocean. And failed to recognize him.
At least they didn’t have her use google. Wouldn’t put it past these writers
They were not standing on Tolkien's shoulder but pissing on his grave. Everyone involved in the show, mainly the tops ie. the execs, writers, producers, director deserves every hate, dislike, criticism, etc. coming to them. I doubt any of them even read the books.
And I hope that Jeff Bezos' son (whom HE says is a huge fan of LoTR) tells Jeff every day that he allowed this treasure to be shat upon.
kind a hard though when they could only use the appendixes, can thank the current Tolkien owners for not letting them us more, thought they couldve acted mroe better to the criticism
It says something that every time they write a "strong" female character she's always narcissistic and gets everyone around her killed, like a villain but without the competence.
For a thousand years, Galadriel has been on a bloodthirsty revenge tour to find the guy who killed her brother. Her HUSBAND is apparently dead too but that's not a big deal to her. Screw him.
They forget that a character should be well rounded and believable, male or female, no one likes a mary-sue
It's cuz we have self-insert narcissists in control that seem to not care about anything but their ego and Wokeness-appeal.
In Poland some people are calling this Galadriel: Ciri Skywalker.
Jackson was too faithful for Simon Tolkien?
What the hell is wrong with Simon?
He's a bitter little man who can't accept he'll never be the master writer his grandfather was.
$imon ha$ hi$ reward.
It was probably a dig at his father, Christopher, who kicked him out of the Estate (they eventually reconciled) supposedly for initially shilling for the Jackson films to try and make money despite Christopher telling the members of the Estate that he didn't want them involved with the then upcoming films. Simon thought they should try and make money off them somehow no matter the quality of the films. Christopher denied that this was the reason for their estrangement, though he was against adaptations and thought they could never be faithful and thought Jackson was making basic action films (J. R. R. was forced to sell the rights in the 60s due to financial trouble and there were some horrendous adaptation attempts before Jackson came along). Simon admitted later that there were "other reasons" besides his shilling that caused the estrangement but they eventually reconciled and he, unfortunately, became the head of the Estate.
@@Fardawg He should've never been allowed to become the head of the Estate, the first thing that he's done after the death of his father is to give the rights to Amazon to destroy and distort his grandfather and father's life works for nothing but money. He's responsible for this abomination of a show.
Simon all those fans refusing to watch RoP is doing your estate a favor by trying to preserve your grandfather's work/IP. It could go the way of Star Wars... a half-dead franchise.
Your tireless battle against this monstrous abomination of a series is honorable. Watching your videos is like a catharsis. Thanks
Sometimes when I hear actors speaking about the amazingness of their roles in these sh*t projects, whether film or tv, I often wonder, 'do you ACTUALLY believe what you're saying, or can you feel your soul dying since this is a contractual obligation??'
@Gen TH-cam naw, they’re just employees that are legally bound to promote and sell and make money for overlords like every one else. But their job is fantasy and wonder and everyone love them for it.
Part dumb and crazy, part contractual obligation and part defense mechanism! If you want to have an ounce of self-respect and sanity you really can't perceive the show you made as what it truly is.
Delusion rums rampant
We can see their souls dying by watching their eyes and countenances, but they aren’t aware of it, I guess.
They do it because of money. Making bad publicity for the own movie is like losing your contracts. Nobody will hire you when you could talking shit about their Projects. So they will lie to everyone just getting more jobs. Like in our life when we have job interviews and just talk about all the good lied stuff they wanna hear about us.
1000 years of searching just to find everything she needed in months. Then to fail epically the moment she does.
A Tragedy of Unique proportions
To be fair, the first 999 years were spent getting her make-up and costuming ready.
@@victoriajohnson4420 But the make-up and costuming department forgot to take care of her hair. That hair which is supposed to have captured some of the light of the Trees, so that even a single strand was worth more than any amount of gold and jewels. Nope. Not much shine in evidence.
@@pohjanakka4992 But that's canon, and we can't be following some old white dude's ideas. Besides, the real Galadriel was well over six feet tall, most say 6'4", while Guyladriel is tiny, and a great example of the Napoleon Complex.
We won't "consume" their drivel, and they despise us. I'm cool with that arrangement
I find TH-cam more entertaining than modern TV anyway
“Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.”
That is really the perfect quote to describe this creative bankruptcy, and in fact the whole woke nightmare we're all now living. They just twist and corrupt everything that was once good, in their self-righteous crusade for a "better world" (mOrE iNcLuSiViTy aNd DiVeRsiTy).
Good thing we're finally taking a stand. Also, good can heal as seen with HotD.
Lets see if Cavill sets them straight with 40K. I don't see wokeness surviving grimdark.
@@armr6937 Horus Trans fighting against patriarchy shown by The Emperor himself
@@alexmottley8890 @alexmottley8890 from what I understand is that evil cannot create something that deeply touches the heart and soul and make people transcend ... It has no light or truth so its just a reflection of the most base things that exist in the world and in humans ... Tolkien was spiritual and connected to God, that's his inspiration... If his books had that much success and the movie after that its because it's truthful ... Souls recognize truth or real beauty when they see it🕊️
It’s really scary how few people have so much power over IP’s, and can do so much harm to IP’s. It’s such a disservice. Theirs so many artists out there who can tell great stories, direct great cinema, and stay true to the source.
Alternative title “How to blow one billion dollars on a universally loved franchise.”
This sentence should not be said, yet here we are!
The mistake they made was to let Postman Pat be one of the ''writers''.
And make it one of the most watched and replayed series in history!
They've not only made their money back, but have committed to 4 more seasons!
And I for one am VERY happy they did.
Or how to launder a billion dollars.....
A billion dollars. Can’t believe it, . A billion dollar “Tolkien” series. It should be a dream come true.
Too faithful to anything is never, in itself, a fault. There's no such thing as too faithful to your wife, or too faithful to God, or your friends, or what you believe in. What an insane thing for that man to say.
He probably hasn't read the Fall of Numenor. It is the Faithful who are saved at the end.
When talking about an adaptation of a work, I think there's some truth in the idea that one can be too faithful to the original. Books and films are very different media and we consume them in very different ways so things that work in a book can be difficult if not impossible to translate into film and still be interesting and entertaining. Stuff like the level of detail and complexity of ideas - with a book you can stop to think about it for as long as you want and you can go back and re-read a section if you need a reminder or clarification, but it doesn't work in a film. Internal monologs are another thing that works well in print and is used a lot by some authors, but they're hard to translate into something that works on screen and even then it only works well in small amounts.
I've literally never heard of anyone complaining about a source of media being "to faithful" it's always the other way around. Man seems like a brainlet.
… let alone being too faithful to your own creation.
I think this is the generation of Tolkiens that skipped having a brain.
This show keeps entertaining me and I haven't watched a single episode
same hhhhhh
Spot on!!! I watched the episodes and then was sooo happy when Gary put out a video on RoP to finally get some entertainment out of this pile of ***.
I wish I could say the same -- someone invent a machine that will erase it from my memory 😵
Lol UNDERRATED
Same here. Why would I bother watching shit? No thanks.
Peter Jackson's adaptation may not be perfect, but by god, his passion for the lore and the story is undeniable. He didn't push any agenda or message, he just told the story. It is a far stretch to call this series an "adapatation" as very little from the book has truly been adapted. Oh, and I think Simon needs to do a DNA test - how is he a TOLKIEN?!
Never in the field of human culture was so much, loved by so many, destroyed by so few with so little talent. If human culture were to last another thousand years, people would still say, this was their shitest hour.
This prize definitely goes to the "great Leap forward". Literally thousands of years of history destroyed.
Well said.
Tis civilisation probably won't last for 1000 years, I'm giving it 10-70 years..
Don't jinx it. It could always get worse
“Cast it into the fire…destroy it,” is the perfect ending to these videos. As usual, spot on analysis!
It's a very simple show, meant for very simple people. It wasn't made for people that read the books. But remember guys, in a few years this will all be forgotten, but the books will still be there, forever.
I'm not sure to whom they were catering tbh. I can't speak for those who have not read the books. I don't really know how they see or feel about it. But it seems to me the series is very bad regardless of the Lore. Especially the writing, for both plot and characters' depiction.
Take Halbrand, for example. Those of us that know the Lore, already know that "Annatar" in the books is Sauron, because it isn't a mystery for the reader. The Elves don't know that, but the readers do, because both the F.A and S.A, and the appendices in the LOTR, are written in some sort of a historical chronicle of the world of Middle-earth and its peoples. If they followed Tolkien, it would've been much more satisfying for both audiences (book readers and non), because it would've still been a surprise for the casual viewers. They would've been watching the whole thing from the POV of the Elves, so to speak, and the book readers would've been happy to see them following the Lore. But by twisting Sauron's story and trying hard to conceal his identity even from the book readers, they made a big mess out of it. That whole story didn't make any sense and it affected the Elves story, their nature, character and motivations in a very negative way, especially Galadriel.
To make a comparison with GOT, it's like twisting Ned's death, the Red Wedding, or Joffrey's death, just so they could "surprise" the book readers too. That's not how a good story work. Say you want to adapt Iliad or Aeneid, or Shakespeare. Are you going to change the most important characters and events just because people are familiar with those stories? That's the worse approach a writer could take when making an adaptation.
Physical books yes. Hold on to them. Digital destruction of the past is the future.
Wokeness will eventually crash and burn but we're still stuck in a painful period of attempted legacy destruction of the classics.
Also remember, that Rings of Power is the fantasy standard being set for Gen Z. We know it's shit because we have the benefit of context. We watched LotR in the theaters and many of us have also read the books. This generation doesn't have that knowledge and understanding to fall back on. To many of them, Rings of Power IS Tolkien's Lord of the Rings. And that's the real crime that's been comitted by these cultural vandals.
I disagree. Even if you've never heard of LotR and you're watching the show with a clean slate, there are problems with the storytelling, costumes, special effects, etc. These things are unacceptable in any show worth watching.
It would have been great to see Galadriel use her powerful magic in the series since she was a mage and all...not a sword wielding armor wearing warrior.
Thats one of my most WTF things about the show. Galadriel is a spellcaster and they changed her to warrior? WTF
@@janpolednik5012 I wish she would spellcast this show out of existence.
@@janpolednik5012 To be fair, she is quite capable of both spell casting and sword play as all elves are. This show seemed to forget that and how badass Jackson made it look when both swordplay and spell casting are combined into one scene/fight (Galadriel being a boss in The Hobbit, Gandalf channeling the secret fire into his sword etc etc).
@@ashes2diamond Yes, The Hobbit did it right I liked that Elrond basically used a katana. Elves and slightly curved blades/katanas are a match. I dunno, this show is just oen big letdown. I was so thrilled to learn how exactly were the rings made, what kind of magic was used etc...but none of that was being shown. Just some random hobo/gondor ("numenor") crap. I hate
but didnt Tolkien not car much for magic use? abd kept it a a bare minimum?
So she was chasing Sauron for more than 1,000 years, but then it became so urgent even though Sauron was nowhere near, that she had to kill some of her elven crew because of her panic.
Her soldiers, who loyally followed her for a thousand years, are in Valinor, their last memory of Middle Earth being their commander abandoning them in favor of drowning in the ocean. Even the Valar can't heal all wounds.
After a thousand years of her pursuit, Sauron decided to go put a RING on his crazy stalker Guyladriel. - Amazon script for Rings Of Power!😉
Give her a break man, she was forgetting that she was an elf
@@PaulusAlone very clever haha
@@yakobdou - Much appreciated! 😄
Thank the maker for people like Gary and Critical Drinker for these videos. They are far more entertaining than the actual show/movies that are rife with identity politics.
There are plenty of good female lead fantasy books, some even written by women. Why aren't Hollywood adapting those instead of changing male content?
@@theupperechelon7634 because it’s easier to hijack established popular (very popular actually) IP and gender/race flip it than it is to create new IP.
I must have watched 5+ hours of quality content critiquing each hour long episode that I'll never, ever watch. And that's why streaming is in big trouble.
I was happy to let them watch this trash so I didn't have to. Their content has given me hours of entertainment. Thanks guys!
yeah ty for the first 50 rings of power reviews the following 50 got redundant
That Tolkien's grandson, Simon, criticizes Peter Jackson for putting too much of his grandfather's books into The Lord of the Rings movies tells you all you really need to know. "Hey, let's make a show based on the world my grandfather created, but let's change everything and only use the names of the people and places, mmm-kay?"
Yeah Simon is just a dumbass. I bet his grandfather would've scolded him for his stupidity and call him "FOOL OF A TOOK"
tolkien did the same with the european original
"Very capable swordsperson"
I literally died.
That shit made me feel old testament disgust. Makes me wish God would break His pinky promise not to flood us again and just wash away everything and everyone
May your soul find peace...
@@fiddlesticks7245 With everything going to woke-shit, I would prefer a faster world extinction event, such as a meteor
How dumb is this.... huMANkind > MANkind > MAN > woMAN(womb-man). The words woman and man are both derivatives of human. A swordsMAN is the same thing as a swordswoman or swordshuman. If anything, men are being ripped of by not having their own prefix.
Fking dumbasses get upset about words they don't understand.
reminds me of League of legends. the damage dealers aka adc/ad carry/attack damage carry (opposite of magic damage) were all or mostly ranged damage dealers, so marksman
so someone comes and says, hey why 'marksman', why no 'markswoman' ?
shit you not, it's not a joke. they started calling them 'marksperson'.
and LOL is even famous for half of their champions being female, well, overly sexualized, but still, I think it's still something, it's not an adaptation of anything, it's an original game, and Arcane was based on that, and doing well.
One of the most successful film franchises ever, Simon Tolkien wants to explain to us how it was a failure. Just wow.
It's completely in line with what access media and the PR campaign has been about on this show. Like the superfans saying "I love the movies BUT..." or more recently articles saying that the trilogy has been far from perfect (the ones granting it a five star review back when nothing was about wokeness).
They must first destroy the past to bring in their new cult. Just like they do IRL with western history, telling us how bad Colombus was just so they can bring in their agenda.
I think he has some grand daddy issues
@@kaseigunsou SPOT ON mate.
Just the idea that people even enjoyed watching The Rings of Power is a fantasy.
I wish
sadly, I know some that did. They have no stakes in it; they just have that low of a standard.
I honestly can't imagine normies do it, the only people i can imagine could've like this garbage are the people that doesn't seek engagement nor immerse themselves in the history and watch it in the background while doing something else or just watching it for the pretty lights without even trying to understand whats going on, but even then RoP is too slow and boring for that so i don't get what kind of people could enjoy it
I didn't see the show , what's it about ?
Surely no actual Tolkien fans, lol.
Wow, they really put some quality craftsmanship into those rings, looks like something you get inside a kinder-surprise egg
The worst part is they paid these people a small fortune to be this bad.
Salt in the wounds
A rather large fortune, actually.
why is that bad?
a capitalist pig like bezos lost a good amount of money. that should be celebrated. like the twitter fiasco and tesla stocks dropping faster than sandy hook kids.
@@glasletter3111 Large Fortune to us yes, he's saying to them it's small
That is how it goes!
I just finished watching Return of the King and finished the entire set again this season , still a masterpiece, what Amazon has done is nothing less than vandalism!!!
Vandalism is an understatement, I think "Sacrilege" will be a good fit
It's really impressive how they managed to make every aspect of this series look second-rate: acting, costumes, makeup, 'script', sets, stunts, editing, and effects.
I do quite like that green dress Mary Sueladriel is wearing though.
The score was overall good. And that dress is lovely, yes.
I'm going to borrow that "Mary Sueladriel" comment.
Quality must be recognized when seen.
Yep, that dress is gorgeous!
Shallow people making shallow "art".
everyone is diversity hires.
I'm so glad that Christopher never had to see this butchery of his father's work. He held the breach against defiling of the lore like a King. Right down to whose voices could be used for audiobooks.
I laughed so hard at the "Numenoreans" depicted in the show.
In a real Numenor, exactly zero would be black, oriental, polynesian, persian, indian, hispanic, or anything else except an idealized _northwestern european_ ethnicity. And the Numenoreans were very protective of their literally blessed bloodline.
And, as for size and strength, think someone built like Chris Evans as Captain America as an AVERAGE Numenorean warrior. And a Chris Hemsworth would not be rare. They were powerful, large men. Not like those skinny, small idiots in the show (and their fake Tar-Miriel).
Too short. For average size try the actor who played the Mountain. Elendil was 8ft tall.
@@agonsfitness7308 Yes, but he was considered huge even by Numenorean standards. The royals/nobility were near demigods.
For the pro woke 2+2=5
I had to laugh how woke minorities and non-whites are pretending to be numbernorns and how real fans like us are being ignorned by the woke globalists running the show
That's very ironic to see when the Numenorians could have been the posterboys of imperialism and hubris in an "enlightened" TV series interpretation. The fall of Numenor could have both tragic and well deserved and stayed true to the books.
Guyladriel displayed no elvish wisdom, womanly grace, or magic power in this entire series. She was literally an idiot that ran around swinging a sword and didn’t know where the Fortress of Angbad was (despite it being very well-known). I’m still not even sure what was so enlightening about the sign she revealed in the fortress. All the elves knew Sauron had escaped and was still lurking around, they just weren’t sure what his capabilities were or who he was trying to influence. I think the worst thing the writers did was screw up the storyline so bad there is no way to work in the deceit of Anatar, the forging of the other rings, the destruction of Numenor, the building of Gondor, the fall of Eregion, etc. I still can’t believe they did this to Tolkien.
Never watched even 1 minute of that Amazon garbage series!! However, I never miss a Nerdrotic video!!!
Yeah, same for me: I must confess that at times I feel an obscure desire... That these folks should shit some more stuff: not that I will ever even remotely consider watching it (God forbid), but having Gary creating more of this wonderful content, oh, please, yes!!
It was just boring, everything else aside. I forced myself through half of them and gave up. Don't even bother.
To those who didn't watch ROP, I admire you.
You have an iron will.
Unfortunately I did watch S1 but have zero interest in the making of or S2.
Yeah, Gary gets the Madness/Eye Cancer.... I sometimes feel sorry for Him, but He seems to like it...🤷
Same 😂
My first introduction to Fantasy was The Lord of rings movies I was blown away. I immediately got the BIG RED all in one Lord of the Rings book and I was hooked for life on Tolkien & Fantasy. The way with series played out was heartbreaking 💔 I did not watch 1 second of it & I never will ! Let's just hope sometime in the Future when WOKE is DEAD ☠️ someone with a love for the Magic of Tolkien will have the ability to inspire the next generation of Tolkien Nuts . Amazon has let down an entire generation 😢
I own and cherish my "big red" LoTR book. I don't actually read it because I don't want to harm it. It's an irreplaceable heirloom to me. I swear it feels a bit like the actual Red Book of Westmarch to me.
hopefully they would be able to make a better tolkien series, but consiering the Tolkien house prolly wouldnt let it happen, i wouldnt hold my breath, think taht was prolly a reason ring of power suffered because of the family holding out.
Two things I think add to this: Christopher Tolkien basically disinherited his son Simon during the making of the Jackson films, kicking him out of the Estate, though in later years they reconciled and Simon obviously became the head of the Estate. According to Simon himself this was over Simon initially shilling for the Jackson films despite orders from Christopher that he didn't want any Estate members involved directly in the films. Christopher didn't want LOTR adapted (he thought it was impossible to adapt faithfully) and thought Jackson was turning them into basic action films (there is also the fact that his father was basically forced to sell the rights in the 60s due to financial problems and there was likely resentment in the way attempted adaptations were handled after that). Simon thought the family should try and make money off the Jackson films by attaching themselves to the films in some way and he disobeyed his father's orders. Christopher himself denied that this was the reason for the estrangement and Simon later admitted that there were other unstated reasons on top of the Jackson stuff. I believe, with not much hard evidence, that Simon allowed Amazon to make a mess of ROP for the "consultant" title he had and possibly more money.
All that ties into the second thing: In that Shippey article he gave what I thought was very positive news at the time. He essentially said that the production was supposed to use what Tolkien wrote on the Second Age as canon material for their show, enforced through the Estate (with Simon being the head of that, remember) but were allowed to fill in the blanks to get from point to point along the timeline as long as the "facts" remained intact. He also mentioned that in the production teaser that had just come out that a name was missing. I believe he said the guy that was missing was a writer or director for the whole project and that something must have changed. I don't know if that was one of the names Gary mentioned or not. But given what we got with the actual show, what he said about having to stick to Tolkien as canon clearly changed and that missing name was likely a casualty of the change. Unbeknownst to him, Shippey would be another casualty. As I said, I think Simon changed the initial stipulation to be faithful to Tolkien and likely got something in return. Shippey messed things up for the production by repeating the initial plan which was now out, and Simon got what I believe was the sole "consultant" credit on the show.
Met Gary at LA Comic Con a few weeks back, thank you for taking a moment out of your busy day to talk to me and shake my hand. Just wanted to say again that I love your videos, particularly the thumbnails and LOTR stuff. Keep up the good work buddy, cheers!
The sentence "You can't buy your way into the Tolkien fandom" made me happier than it should have. :)
How just about everyone survived a 2000 degree volcanic lahar traveling a couple 100 mph is beyond my imaginations capabilities.
The thing that blows me away the most was when he said he had no idea how they were going to write into this already-written story how the rings were supposed to be "magic" so he just hoped that the audience would just assume they were so. They literally named the entire show after these rings, and they had literally NO PLAN on how they were going to incorporate them. I just. It's... WHATTTT?????
This.
I came here to write this.
Talk about creatively bankrupt cronies
the worst of it all is that it shows how little they know of the actual lore they are working with. In The Silmarillion (which clearly they didn't bother to read), Tolkien actually tells why and how the rings were powerful.
If they just followed it, they didn't needed to bother lmao it's a given
Thats a bingo. What gets me is: how do these people have jobs? They couldn't run a lemonade stand if you squeezed the lemonade for them. They'd be sitting around all day trying to figure out how to put the lemon juice back into the lemons so they could make the lemonade.
@@thesafetydept diversity politics, pal. Gladly this shit will be over soon because of profits (lack thereof).
@@segueoyuri i really hope so, theres this extremely small minority which might likes these woke disasters, but the majority of the people hate it (as the profits also show)
"one of the biggest reveals of the show was a font change"
perfectly put
Since Halbrand's actor had no idea that his character was Sauron at first I feel like even the writers did not know until writing the scripts and finally just threw a dart at a random character and it just happened to land on him.
That makes a TERRIFYING amount of sense.
Nah the writers knew lol, I don't know how he couldn't know though, it's so obvious, the show really smacks you over the head with all the clues, it's not subtle at all. So either he's saying that just to try to pretend that the writing isn't awful and obvious, to cover for the show, or he's really not a very intelligent person.
and then they show him standing in front of Mordor with a Max Payne smile lol
In the name of diversity and inclusivity i demand Amazon to reboot the serie and create a new one just for Tolkien fans.
The Hobbit looks like a masterpiece now.
LOTR trilogy was hated when that was released as well by the same type of book nerds with RoP. PJ was hated for changes he made. I'm wondering now after Hobbit's view of change if RoP will have the same in the future.
I guess we will find out how they will deal with this critique for the future, though I guess its still out their hands when can't use the rights Simon isn't giving them.
@@nijjijjion204 Tbh, I liked some of the changes from the book in the movies. Aragorn in the books was already accepting his role. In the movies, he grew more into it, which made it awesome. While we didn't get Dunedin along with Elladan and Elrohir, we instead got to know more about the Rohirrium, which made the loss of Theoden all the greater (and man, Bernard Hill did an amazing job with that character).
Also with the Hobbit, they have the most lore-accurate wargs. Instead of the prehistoric creatures seen in the LotR or the cartoony rat/chihuahua/hedgehog THING in RoP. There's a fan edit somewhere online (can't link it because TH-cam sucks like that) where they made the three Hobbit movies more like the book and it turned out great. I recommend looking for it.
Loved the Hobbit, um but not the cartoon “time bandits” dwarves
@@nijjijjion204 "
LOTR trilogy was hated when that was released"
LMFAO, OP is an intellectual dwarf among midgets. LMFAO!
@@nijjijjion204 I was there, the PJ films were widely well received, there will always be some people complaining but they were a tiny, tiny minority. Don't forget those films grossed a trillion dollars at the box office, with a budget that was 1/3 of what they spent on the first season of this show. Everybody went to see them, the audience score for these films in RT is over 90%, compared to 38% right now for the Rings of Power.
They are light years apart in terms of how well received they were by Tolkien fans...or anything else for that matter.
hi nerdrotic, I am from Saudi Arabia, and I like the videos that you provide, and I hope that you will continue to provide this wonderful content, because there were many male and female characters that I loved, but they were destroyed
It seems to be the mission of hollywood, amazon, netflix and the rest of the entertainment industry to destroy masculine characters, honorable and decent and even normal characters in literature, fiction and also history.
Simon: “Sauron should be like Walter White.”
These genius show runners: “ok, you heard the man! Sauron is going to grow and sell Longbottom Leaf in season 2!”
lol that made me laugh quite a bit.
Those show runners are soyboys to the tenth power
I'm working on that strain...
Simon: “Sauron should be like Walter White.”
Normal people: "wtf? No you idiots, what's wrong with you?"
Better call shelob
The streaming format, used sensibly, could have enabled an episodic approach well-suited to telling stories from the Silmarillion in a way that feature cinema could not.
Instead there is this.
"LOTR: Ratioed Into Oblivion" is actually a perfect name for this series.
Don’t insult Oblivion like that! It’s a great game.
Also, the movie Oblivion with Tom Cruise is super underrated, check it out!
@@majorgear1021 agreed (coincidentally both same genre tho...)
@@anthonyrobertson4272 Great soundtrack from M83 too. And I kinda want Tom cruise's sky penthouse and bubble jet/chopper from it.
I can't think of two words that describe the (real) character of Galadriel less than "scrappy" and "reckless"
@@Yarblocosifilitico He said the REAL character, not Guyladriel.
@@mavisbeacon6770 true, my bad!
How about "thotting" around with sauron instead of looking for her husband
One thing i know. Skyler White from BrBa has a new contender.
Haven't seen Rings of Power and never will for the simple reason that I actually love LOTR
I made it in about 10 minutes before I gave up in disgust. I’m a Tolkien purist so yeah, it was impossible. 🤢
I'll never click on that garbage
@@katherineroland6008 we Tolkien purists and bigots can't handle all the sheer WOKE
Ah yes I'm sure you know, my fellow devout racists, that disliking this show in any form and for any reason is actually the full and entire entry ceremony of the KKK. Bigotry awaits you!
even though Lord of the rings wasnt fully accurate to the book? and took certain liberties?
Most unforgettable scene for me is the “you have not seen what I have seen” scene 😂
I have re watched the season 3 times and I dont remember this at all almost. Most of the time I was more fixated on the dwarves.
@@natedgr8furious140 So you've seen the scene 3 times because you had not seen what others had seen?
I feel like complaining that the LOTR movies are too faithful to the books is like complaining to the chef that your meal was too good and that next time he should see about including some hair and undercooked poultry in it.
and maybe a steaming pile of shit in the middle just to be sure it will be horrible.
@@michaell8000😂😂😂
After 1,000 years she finally looked at a map. Omg, that was good. Lol
She had it upside down most of the time
@@sillypuppy5940 LOL
@@sillypuppy5940 bruh this series is a joke
"You can't buy your way into the Tolkien fandom"
That's exactly how Tolkien fans are.We care about quality,not the money..I hate the Billion dollar RoP but love the 20k budget "Born of Hope" fan made film about the birth of Aragorn.
This is like those soccer clips where it looks hard to miss a completely open goal from a few yards out but they still manage to sky it. Truly head-shaking how they managed to fail against overwhelming odds of success.
To take that allegory even further, they completely missed but bought out all the journalists to make them convince the world they didn't.
The Tolkien Estate is becoming the root of all (Tolkien) evil things, like the King's Men in Numenor being completely lost to the Valar.
The have become the very personification of greed. I mean, how much money do you want and need? They have plenty. The books have been published non stop for years now, not to mention all the rights from the movies, games and merchandise. Geezers!
@@saelind73 To be fair, the son, Christopher, cared very much about his father's works. It's only now that we're down to the grandchild that we have greed problems.
@@solan7978 It is like that old saying, it takes one generation to build something great, the next one can maintain it, but the third one will squander it.
@@Grubnar I have heard that 70% of great familial wealth earned is lost by the third generation, so that saying sounds pretty spot-on to me.
@@solan7978 Exactly. I have nothing but the utmost respect for what Christopher has done. He dedicated his whole life to preserve his father's work and legacy, and he did that magnificently. What I'm saying is more does the Tolkien Estate wants now? The hard work has been done by Tolkien and his son, Christopher, and the Estate has accumulated plenty of money in the process. The only job they have is to preserve their legacy and don't cause any damage. That's it.
they thought it was hard to make 3 rings seem magical, yet Peter Jackson made the one ring feel magical from the literal first minute with music and visuals. They really should have given this show to Peter Jackson. And i really don't get why these companies keep shooting themselves in the foot.
The reason is the agenda. The great reset.
The answer to your last question is diversity and inclusion!
That statement stood out for me as well. Hollywood's stock in trade is making the ordinary seem magical. They once made us believe a pair of red shoes could teleport you from Oz to Kansas. They sold people on the notion that Lucky Charms cereal is "magically delicious" for Pete's sake. The entertainment field now seems full of people who are seriously lacking in the basic skills of their own business.
Because the left marches on and is successful in converting the stupid.
@@stinkleaf ''The great reset'' xD My god the stupidity of people. It's not a worldwide mega ultra secret scheme that you somehow discovered thanks to some TH-cam videos and a few blogs written by undereducated swines. It's just greed, plain and basic fucking greed. It's way easier to use a trashy plot and to put money into CGI than to create a cohesive and well-thought piece of art. The shareholders expect money all the time, that puts pressure onto the employees to put out something fast. That's what you get. Now go finish highschool at least, and then maybe a bachelor degree in philosophy could help (don't skip the courses on logic).
"there's nothing you can do to make three rings look magic"
Peter Jackson with one ring: hold my beer 😂😂
After a thousand years of being stalked across Middle Earth by a crazy elven lady called Guyladriel. Sauron decides to put a RING on her finger and make an honest villain out of her!
- Almost literally the Amazon script for Rings Of Power.
Am I wrong?🤔😵💫😭
You know, I'm really tempted to make the obligatory "still a better love story than Twilight" joke, but at this point? I'm not even sure it'd be valid.
RoP be so bad it breaks even memes.
@@ahriman935 - I second that emotion! 😊
@n n - I second second that emotion!🥹
Simon Tolkien is "a lesser son of greater sires" Rings of Power getting snubbed from Globes made me ecstatic.
Yeah. Eff that spoiled brat.
Was he not loved as a child? Why did he sell out his father's work? Did he not grow out of the rebellious phase of supporting the ideology that is diametrically opposite to his father's?
@@jonathangable127 the problem is he tried to be a writer then discovered his writing just wasn't popular and well yeah you can see where things went from there.
@@jonathangable127 Grandfather's work* Christopher was JRR Tolkien's son and Simon is Christopher's son.
@@rigrmortis3393 To live in the shadow of a great writer like Tolkien should have put him off the career
Can I just say this : in the first second after you've stabbed a troll, EVEN if you have a doctorate in Troll Physiology, and EVEN if you have X ray vision to see where your sword went, it is NOT safe to assume he's instantly disabled, and so it's NOT the time to turn your back to him and perform a vainglorious pointless spinning trick with your sword.
It's called creative license, in a fictional setting. It's meant to entertain, virtually no one cares about those extra details. 😆
@@DavidByrden1 Indeed, that was cringe AF.
@@KSmithwick1989 I think it depends on the overall tone of the franchise.
It would have looked great in Charlies Angels or any superhero flick, but in the Lord of the Rings is just cringe.
@David Byrden Nobody being the general audience. Most people don't really watch films to analyze them. But to be social with friends and family.
The worst part was her twisting her bastard/greatsword inside the the leathery and thick body of a troll. IT'S a sword, not a drill and that troll is not a blob of slime!
I just convinced my girlfrined, who never watched/read anyithing about lotr, to watch the original trilogy and she really enjoyed it, we watched the full 10+hrs in the matter of days. Now we are watching The hobbit and she starts to point out how the mood is not the same and it's way less immersive, but we are slowly getting through it.
I don't have the strenght to also show her the series :(
Do It
Do it, so you can show her the disappointment this show is
Don't please. Let her enjoy her life , the trauma for the sake of enlightenment is not worth it.
Hide ya kids, hide ya wife, and hide ya husband cuz they ruining every story out here.
But they'll never take our FREEDOM!!! ⚔
They climbin' in yo windows snatchin yo IPs up, tryna gRape'm so yall need to...
It's an older meme.. but it checks out.
Thank you, Gary, for putting these HACKS on notice. Love your videos!! God bless you and your family with excellence and Merry Christmas!!!
Hacks is the perfect choice of word to describe the lot of them
“Creatively Bankrupt Locust” more truer words about Bad Rebut have never been uttered 😂
15:40 excuse me??? Jackson put too much? Up yours dude. Jackson nailed that shit. That’s how you do lotr properly
Time is the one true test of quality. In ten years, people will still be talking about the Jackson films and this show will just be a curious piece of history that's barely remembered.
'At the end of the day these are three rings, and there's nothing you can do to make them magic.'
Meanwhile, Tetsuro Araki is making writing names on a notebook, and eating potato chips look like some of the most epic things you can do as a human being.
Sounds a lot like cope from being unqualified.
It's the story of a female elf, female human, blind black female human, builder female, female hobbit, fat female hobbit, brown female dwarf, female woke wizards, and the only black elf other than the evil dark uruk trying to make gender neutral jewelry.
I think there were male and non woke storylines in the show but I can't remember because I fell asleep.
They stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as they could, and before they even knew what they had, they patented it, and packaged it, and slapped it on a plastic lunchbox, and now they wanna sell it.
easy there Dr. Malcom. lol
@@e.rutledge801 it’s a reference to something else i forget what exactly
@@declanruane5588 that is literally almost word for word what Dr. Malcom from Jurassic Park says.
Its funny that Tolkien made middle Earth On a 0 pound budget and now Amazone makes a shit version of it for a couple of bilion dollars
Truly, RoP is an historic event. A balance-shifting one.
I have the advantage of not being a LotR fan (I do like it very much and I see all its merits, don't get me wrong), so I'm being optimistic about this: it's a good thing, a great thing even, that RoP is so objectively bad, because it makes a very clear line between those who will just eat whatever garbage is offered, and those who have self-respect and respect for the IP's and its authors.
There's just no way to defend RoP. In a few years everyone who defended it will pretend they hated it as much as we do. And all fandoms will have gained a sense of their importance; of the authority (and the duty) they have. So, thanks RoP, thank you for being so histerically, bafflingly abysmal.
edit: fans of LotR (true fans), I am sorry RoP happened. I can imagine how frustrating its existence is. But consider it a sacrifice required in order to save the very art of storytelling. We the casual, but still actual fans of LotR, thank you. Stand proud against the abomination.
It wasn’t a sacrifice.
RoP is so disconnected from what it tried to rip off that it barely did anything except, once again, humiliated morons who thought they could make this Star Wars.
I like your optimism, but I gotta say: this is not the first terrible adaptation of Tolkien's work... and it may not even be the worst. Seriously. There's some garbage-tier stuff out there. It's terrible, sure. But I think if the past teaches us anything, it's both that Tolkien's legacy will be almost completely unaffected by this and that fandom and Hollywood will learn almost nothing from this. Things just keep rolling on. Props to Tolkien for being so bulletproof, though! It's no wonder that everyone wants to be him.
The first time I uttered the words, "I wish my beloved legendarium had a worthy series of the 1-3 age" was almost 20 years ago...
I waited nearly 20 years for this disaster.
😆 🤣 😂
Funnily enough, I'm not particularly put out by its existence; but that requires some elaboration. For starters it is not Tolkien or even Tolkien inspired so I just chucked it in the bin. Once Star Wars happened I knew they would eventually come for Tolkien, and seek to either corrupt or destroy it because so many of them actively hate what it stands for, and I couldn't be more proud that the people soundly rejected Rings of Prime. I do believe it marks the turning of the tide.
What is far more irksome are the sycophants amongst the Tolkien fandom who are serving the role of Grima Wormtongue. It is one thing to enjoy something that you know is objectively bad; it is another to point out the positives or the potential in something that you dislike and is otherwise poorly made; and it is quite another to claim that you are a diehard fan of something and just mindlessly consume whatever shit has a legally sanctioned label slapped on it that says this thing is the thing you love and the actual contents be damned. And then go on to attack those who dare to point out those things you think are chocolates are, in fact, shit.
But worst of all are those who should know better, but for whatever reason have decided to make themselves the enemy of their fellow fans because, again, they dared say 'no, we do not accept this, we have standards'.
Long story short, there is a reason Dante assigned the lowest circle of Hell to traitors.
@@NathanCassidy721 A thousand times this. Rings of Power makes the Star Wars Sequels look good. Unlike those it doesn't hurt or impact Tolkiens work in the slightest. If it had been at least mediocre enough for normies to watch, THEN the damage would have been much better.
I laughed when they revealed the three elven rings-I swear my kids got the same ones from a gum ball machine.
I thought the same thing exactly brought my childhood memories. Just not the ones I was hoping for.
At some point they realized how expensive the show was going to be and sent an intern to the local grocery store with $5 and vague instructions and he came back with the elven rings of plastic
@@Theproclaimed they dont come off as the most self aware people 😆
Oh, we have our 3 most important rings ever here, how we gonna design them? like somebody made his first ever steps with gold wire! also make them as unpractical as possible please! and add uncut gems to complete the look of backyard hobby goldsmithing!
They had enough money to lose a billion dollars and can't afford good props for the #1 plot macguffin 😂😂
Good to see that no money can buy the loyalty of the fandom
That guy~ would say that the fans are too faithful...
Money can't corrupt true love.
Too faithful to the book. Needed more character.
One glance by Aragorn spoke of the whole history and nobility of Gondor. A tear from Sam told of the burden of the fight against evil, of loyalty and love and loss.
No need to say "There is a tempest in me!"
It's really difficult to put into words the contempt I have for these rings of power people.
Lol 🤣
I like the way Nerdrotic treats this and other disaster shows like he was dealing with a cocky student who thought he was great and then gets brought up before the teacher to show him the enormity of the errors in his work.
Simon Tolkien: “I want Sauron to be more like Walter White”
J.R.R Tolkien: Let me at em!!!
Christopher: Calm down father!
Now I want to see Sauron and Saruman get an old RV to go cook meth to sell to the Hobbits. They could call it Breaking Bag End.
Tom cruise jumps across 400ft gaps hangs on the sides of planes while taking off, and jumps motorcycles off of cliffs then pulls his shoot,
Meanwhile she is fighting an imaginary troll and she should be praised for that? 🤣🤣🤣
"You know why ship floats and stone can't?" it would be at least comedically brilliant if he proceeded to explain Galadri-lad the principals of buoyancy 'Sheldon' style :D
or with a rubber ducky in a bucket Saul goodman Style.
Beacuse density of a ship is made of wood and thus the density of water outweighs the density of wood. In turn the water pushes the ship upwards trough Arkimedes principal.
Why stone in turn doesn't float is beacuse the density of a stone outweighs the density of water. Therefore it sinks.
Or you could say the wood looks at the sky. And break every physical principal known about Arkimedes principal.
"Reflect the world we live in" well atleast get the psyhics done right then?
I still can't get over how they missed the actual elvish style (horribly written) allegories: "A ship made from wood carries the spirit of the trees, and harness the light, wind, and support all that crawl across her roots. A stone, cut from the body of the earth, provides the foundations for all living things. Water flows over such a solid base, making cradles of life in lakes, rivers, oceans." Then lead that into Elves being light and air like boats, and Dwarves the foundations of mountains. Then you're set up for an overarching metaphor in Elrond's story arch.
@@Undomaranel It's poetic. Those people are not poetic. They literally can't understand "elvish style" as it's not in their mental capacity to do so.
Well, it was on this hallowed day that I learned that the reason why a ship floats and a stone sinks is that the ship is looking up. What a pinnacle of writing that was.
moronic.
It's like something a 4th grader doing his first creative writing essay.
The writing is second only to the line Shakespeare wrote, if I'm not mistaken, in Much A'doo About Nothing: "Perchance it be yellow, let it mellow; be it brown flush it down."
@@ScottyKirk1 A 4th grader?! What are they teaching at your schools? A 6-year old could do better than that.
@@Kiljaedenas I was giving them the benefit of the doubt, but you're probably right.
The shame is that since elves live 1000s of years they easily could have had the elven characters be the immortal through line through different periods.
Amazon should just go full send and have Kathyleen Kenedy make season 2 of "Rings of Wokeness" while wearing a shirt that says "I spit on your grave" with Tolkien's headstone on it.
Why not "The Rings are female"? ;-)
Awesome take. Between you, Disparu, and George the Giant Slayer, I never have to watch another second of RoP crap on Amazon. You gentlemen will cover it all honestly. Thanks and happy holidays :)
those 3 are really the best man
Hahaha yes man! Watch all three also
Disparu has horrifc orc teeth though, makes watching him very difficult.
The worst part is we won't get any more epic R.O.P videos from Gary for awhile. Good thing everything he does is legit. Thanks bud!
Yeah. That's the only reason I wish Season 2 would come out, like, right now.
I would absolutely love it the Peter Jackson Lord of The Rings trilogy (EXTENDED VERSIONS) were re-released in theaters. I would absolutely go see them all.
Omg an IMAX release 🤩🤩🤩
They did about 1,5 years ago. I watched the extended remastered trilogy in theatres in 2021
every so often some theaters do showings
The problem of "creative" people and studio execs thinking they know better and "deserve" to be able to capitalize on the creations of others is the tale as old as time. Nothing like trying to create a movie/show for a fictional property, get everything that the fans of that property like about it completely wrong, and then trying to act like it is the fanbase that is the problem when they don't like it.
Damn, I must be getting old. It used to be that fighting imaginary monsters was called make believe, not stunt work.