1991, seems like only a few years ago but it's really thirty. Time is a funny thing as one gets older. As unpopular as a lot of imported cars were back then, it was a much better class of racing than the "Supercars" of today will ever be.
That’s it. Had Australians at the time had a different mindset, Holden and ford’s future may have been very different. Banning the skylines in a way gave no incentive for the cars to get better. Holden and ford barely changed technology wise from 1990-2017. Besides the introduction of the Barra, which unfortunately was never raced.
Flew to Bathurst the following year and saw Jim Richards win in Godzilla. I was supporting Brocky and was stunned when he broke his tail shaft on the start line using that Indycar v8 engine.Great weekend mostly spent up the top of the mountain and partying on in town all Friday and Saturday night. Highly recommended bucket list experience
HRT were using a twin exit exhaust and an enclosed airbox where as the Perkins built Mobil cars used single exit straight through HM Muffler and also ran a more open induction setup with no box. At the time the rules allowed for more intake and exhaust freedoms so they likely ran different header setups as well.
@@TouringCarsofAus probably why LPs cars were quicker he exploited regulation loopholes better than anyone who ran a Holden.. his use of the endless brake pads - literally - in 95 proves it, as well as the slide throttle setup in the Holden v8 in his 93 bathurst winner.. then they sooked and made him run 18deg chev & butterfly the following year
Garry Wilkinson had never heard the word 'detonate' used in the context of car engines until Dick Johnson used it a few minutes before. And there's no such thing as a perfect lap. Not even on an oval. These old bits of footage are rare insofar as they contain an audio record of Neil Crompton getting through 10 seconds of commentary without mentioning a dozen sponsors.
Larry’s lap was beautiful. Smooth lines, perfect gear changes, great to watch. That gtr though, finally made the field look as silly as it had promised to do for so long.
@@colinstewart1432racing has never been fair. Gotta remember at the time ford was developing a twin turbo i6 awd falcon that could’ve rivaled the gtr. But they canned it and the Japanese just took off while Australian cars got stuck in the golden ages of the 70’/80’s. Took until the 2000’s for Aussie cars to even catch up ti the gtr’s. End of the day. U gotta have standout cars for the sport to progress. Look at Supercars now. It’s boring as batshit now that all the cars are identical.
@nicholasgunson2945 Aussie Car's NEVER caught up to the GTR as it kept developing up to even now with the Nismo R35...Sad fact is if Holden and Ford had of developed better Car's then Falcon and Commodore perhaps they would be still around...think about it...both Car's were the exact SAME Platform since their release...a big 4 door RWD Family Sedan...something that consumers and the market no longer wanted...I actually said to my mates in the mid 90s that if Holden/Commodore doesn't change and progress they'll end up broke and was laughed at...Realistically it was their own arrogant fault...sadly
I brought one not long ago and yes they are astonising, especially when the turbos kick in, and the sound they make is just beautiful. Still a very good looking car too.
Peter brock eff me what a mad man, whipping that holden tank of a horse. Most aggressive and spectacular qualy lap on the mountain you will ever see.. RIP
Its amazing to think that Skaife hit 293 km/h on Conrod in the GT-R in 1991 which is about 15 km/h quicker than the current GT3 cars that run in the Bathurst 12 hour.....yet the GT-R was some 10 seconds a lap slower than they are today. Tyres, suspension and of course aerodynamic downforce (Group A cars had little to no downforce really) is the big reason for the improvement in lap times. The GT3 cars are just so much quicker across the mountain which is where they make up their time. And back in 1991 we all thought a 2:12.63 lap was an awesome time.
Indeed. I was at the 12 Hour earlier this year, to see the GT3 cars coming across McPhillamy and down through the esses was just breathtaking. Until I got used to it I swore every car was going to crash when they first started going really fast. Most of the GT3 cars were running 2:02s and 2:03s pretty consistently when the conditions were right. Amazing to watch.
GT3 cars are detuned for parity - some of the race cars have less power than the street cars. Most sit around the 500hp mark where if they were allowed 700hp plus is achievable- easily.
Fantastic video when you think the super cars, which are purpose built race cars 22 years after this are only 7 seconds faster. Just shows you how good these group A cars are. They would have been a lot faster if they had still been racing them. And maybe if we didn't have Hockey we would still have a car industry.
Well back in 2000 I bought a gtr and I still have it to this day.... I retired it from daily use back in 2009 with a new gtr and swapped that one for another new one in 2012 and near new one again in 2020. My favourite car out of alll four gtrs I have had is the old 1993 r32 I bought in 2000 what a car!
Brocky was wringing the old Commodore's neck! One of his most aggressive runs for pole. In the career highlights list of Bathurst wins there are only 8 accredited to Peter when there should have been of course 9. 1983 is missing.
The VN was not homologated to race : 302 built -500 required to race . Probably explains why most Sierras were slower than they were 5 Bathursts before -handicapped out of it with weight and narrower tyres
Skafe kept claiming to have been going as fast as he could despite having some errors. There was no need to do this unless it was likely to be in question by other. He was a second quicker than his teammate and three seconds quicker than the competition. Clearly both gtrs were holding back. Cars driven hard will have close and constant times. The gtrs were all over the place. But of course go to fast and you risk protest from other teams which was already starting to happen.
It would have been terrific if the drivers had swapped cars to see the times brocky & dick could have squeezed out of the GTR’s & alternatively to see what skaife & co. could have achieved driving a Sierra or commodore .
Damn those GTR’s were insane. Shame they were scrapped. Sure the GTR was ahead of its time. But the holdens were way behind too. From 1970-1999 there was barely any changes really. The biggest change came with the LS1. Then Holden continued to not modernise their cars for another 18 years. Always will be a Holden man. But as a company. They were always ran horribly.
They where thinking about it but the roof was too low and if AWD was added to it, the cars would be too good unless they added AWD to the commies and stangs wouldn't really make an interesting season though.. Maybe with GEN 3 we might get Bmws back or even alpha romeo.
+Neil Petersen Its not about the speed, touring car racing was all about in your face raw engine power and car handling like at 8:30 holy fuck, thats all holden n/a v8 sounds off its tree, it would be scarier to drive than a v8 supercar for sure so much untamed torque and sfa driving aids
You can't educate dickheads jack. That Vn was built to rev it's arse of 8500 rpm plus down conrod Carrillo rods and the best internals of any v8 out there. The supercars are boring plastic piles of shit with a circus that follow them round. drivers like van gisburgen trying to drift cars for an audience of toss bags who wouldn't know a diff from a door handle ice baths personal trainers speech coaches, it's become a fukin joke
You are correct , no parity whatsoever ! fun to watch but an absolute nightmare if you happen to be a driver in a V8 commodore rear wheel drive or a 2 litre single turbo rear drive Sierra , chasing a twin turbo 6 cylinder 4wd Nissan which were so fast & easy to drive I think big bird could have driven them .
8:30 is why aussie touring car racing was/ is still the best, gtr's were faster due to twin turbo and awd, make the commodore awd all that torque at all 4s beast mode
+Craig Rowe yet Larry Perkins' attitude when he had the fastest car was that everyone else just needed to work harder. Never one to practice what he preaches.
He is of course correct, the R32 was never a saloon car for the masses, which is what touring cars are all about. It's easy to be Godzilla when you're playing with a rigged deck.
The GTRs clearly had an unfair advantage. The holdens didn't stand a chance against these Goliaths. That's why Parity was important further down the line.
The difference is that Nissan produced a performance car for Group A racing while the Commodore was a family car suitably adapted for racing. Put simply Nissan made a better car.
Yeah, the GTR was never built to battle with commodore. Its a damn porsche battler... It was very unfair for the commos and anyone else brave enough to race against it. Even though they ended up adding so much weight in ballast to slow it down, it was just no use. It was too damn perfect for racing.
To be fair, the Sierras were made with group A in mind too and they still didn’t have a chance. I heard that Skaife/Richards’ GTR was quietly asked not to compete in the Nissan factory event because they were worried it would beat even the Calsonic GTR, making that Skyline possibly the fastest car in all of Group A touring.
AKA Zeus you’re correct. Fred Gibson was offered by Nissan Japan to compete at the Fuji endurance race that year, on the proviso he shared his technical data and car setup with Nismo. As Fred’s team in aus did all their own development work in house without any help from the factory, he politely refused to share info. In return the invite was cancelled. Fred Gibson takes no shit 😂
Larry Perkins MOST Embarrassing Comment in Australian Motorsport History...Quote: " On paper the Nissan's are Quicker...they're a Racing Car not a Touring Car"...ummmm. No Larry...not just on paper...on the TRACK!...All said while sitting in a RACE CAR !!! If it wasn't such an Embarrassing Ludicrous Comment and an insult to his Team that built his RACE CAR it would be funny
Moving the 'Goal Posts' is never equal. Racing a six cylinder turbocharged four wheel drive is a totally different ball game. The fact is that the Fords and the Holdens were nobbled by our corrupt press that stopped the production of high performance Australian cars. Today, a normally aspirated V8 is quicker than a Turbocharged engine (in the USA) because of CCs and development. Our corrupt media destroyed our manufacturing base. All my motor vehicles were Australian build except for a Datsun 1600 Sports. My 1968 Morris Cooper S was Australian built. Our leftist, Communist, treacherous media has an agenda to destroy our Australian way of life and bring in a Communistic Society just as the ones that have already failed in Russia, (the USSR - Soviet Union) Venezuela etc. We fools have given China all our manufacturing and now China is laughing at us. Wake up Australia. LEST WE FORGET.
@@brucelamberton8819 both sides are the same .. same club .. same end goal ... the destruction of this country.. unions are run by corrupt backstabbers and have a lot to answer for this mess, but it is not only them that are to blame
I could and have watched that PB05 lap a million times,Man that guy is and will always be KING OF THE MOUNTAIN, goose bumps every time I watch it
Could only imagine if someone handed him the keys to a Godzilla that year!
I just watched qualifying for a race that happened 26 years ago, and I probably won't watch Bathurst this year......
Same here, it's just not exciting anymore. I loved the 90's motorsport.
Same, 5 years later 😂
Enjoy them before everything becomes an EV. You will regret trying to live in the golden age of late 80s and 90s
He mucked up twice but you could tell he was just full sendin it. Fly high brocky🕊
Oh how I wish this was still the format today.
Don't we all ! 😔
1991, seems like only a few years ago but it's really thirty. Time is a funny thing as one gets older. As unpopular as a lot of imported cars were back then, it was a much better class of racing than the "Supercars" of today will ever be.
That’s it. Had Australians at the time had a different mindset, Holden and ford’s future may have been very different. Banning the skylines in a way gave no incentive for the cars to get better. Holden and ford barely changed technology wise from 1990-2017. Besides the introduction of the Barra, which unfortunately was never raced.
@@nicholasgunson2945YOU....have nailed it!!!
I love Seton's Sierra, in the PJ blue colours it really suits it.
Back when cigarette brand sponsorship was allowed. Lasted only a handful of years after that and cigarette sponsorship was banned.
Flew to Bathurst the following year and saw Jim Richards win in Godzilla. I was supporting Brocky and was stunned when he broke his tail shaft on the start line using that Indycar v8 engine.Great weekend mostly spent up the top of the mountain and partying on in town all Friday and Saturday night. Highly recommended bucket list experience
indycar V8 engine hey LOLOL
The HRT cars sound so much flatter than the Perkins ones. Larry's engines scream!
Perkins used genie extractors so they're louder
HRT were using a twin exit exhaust and an enclosed airbox where as the Perkins built Mobil cars used single exit straight through HM Muffler and also ran a more open induction setup with no box. At the time the rules allowed for more intake and exhaust freedoms so they likely ran different header setups as well.
@@TouringCarsofAus Great info! cheers
@@TouringCarsofAus probably why LPs cars were quicker he exploited regulation loopholes better than anyone who ran a Holden.. his use of the endless brake pads - literally - in 95 proves it, as well as the slide throttle setup in the Holden v8 in his 93 bathurst winner.. then they sooked and made him run 18deg chev & butterfly the following year
Larry’s factory “Special” engine blocks
GT-R vs Cosworth, them were the days.............
I remember people complaining in 1991 about GT-Rs and Sierras and yearning for Toranas & Falcons.
@@NxDoyle fuckwlts
@@NxDoyle same people still Winge not putting it down but those cars are slow I’ve seen plenty of classic racing not my thing
@@felixthecat1672 real people.... not dickheads like now
Garry Wilkinson had never heard the word 'detonate' used in the context of car engines until Dick Johnson used it a few minutes before.
And there's no such thing as a perfect lap. Not even on an oval.
These old bits of footage are rare insofar as they contain an audio record of Neil Crompton getting through 10 seconds of commentary without mentioning a dozen sponsors.
This comment is underrated.
Larry’s lap was beautiful. Smooth lines, perfect gear changes, great to watch. That gtr though, finally made the field look as silly as it had promised to do for so long.
Surgical he was.
LP is an absolute master on this track. It seems bizarre that the gtr was allowed to take part here now.
@@colinstewart1432racing has never been fair. Gotta remember at the time ford was developing a twin turbo i6 awd falcon that could’ve rivaled the gtr. But they canned it and the Japanese just took off while Australian cars got stuck in the golden ages of the 70’/80’s. Took until the 2000’s for Aussie cars to even catch up ti the gtr’s.
End of the day. U gotta have standout cars for the sport to progress. Look at Supercars now. It’s boring as batshit now that all the cars are identical.
@@nicholasgunson2945 Agreed. It is crap nowadays. Thankfully we've got some great vintage stuff to watch on YT👍
@nicholasgunson2945 Aussie Car's NEVER caught up to the GTR as it kept developing up to even now with the Nismo R35...Sad fact is if Holden and Ford had of developed better Car's then Falcon and Commodore perhaps they would be still around...think about it...both Car's were the exact SAME Platform since their release...a big 4 door RWD Family Sedan...something that consumers and the market no longer wanted...I actually said to my mates in the mid 90s that if Holden/Commodore doesn't change and progress they'll end up broke and was laughed at...Realistically it was their own arrogant fault...sadly
The good days, rest in peace brocky 🙏🏻
Saw him in the pits in 92...nice bloke gave me a wave
Awesome upload! Thank mate
Jesus Brocky was caning that VN and it was 4 seconds slower than the Nissan, what a car that GTR was and still is to this day
I brought one not long ago and yes they are astonising, especially when the turbos kick in, and the sound they make is just beautiful. Still a very good looking car too.
Gr8mate13 a great driver in a comparative hunk of junk. Looked like he was driving a wreck. Shame
Youre rick kellys barrel cleanc r rite yeh
@über alles rennen Awwww...diddums...did your bogan V8 get beaten by a better car...no wonder Holden went broke
Just Aname calm down 😂, y u so salty? Chill
Peter brock eff me what a mad man, whipping that holden tank of a horse. Most aggressive and spectacular qualy lap on the mountain you will ever see.. RIP
thx heeps for this upload
loved the Turbolent era lol
Its amazing to think that Skaife hit 293 km/h on Conrod in the GT-R in 1991 which is about 15 km/h quicker than the current GT3 cars that run in the Bathurst 12 hour.....yet the GT-R was some 10 seconds a lap slower than they are today. Tyres, suspension and of course aerodynamic downforce (Group A cars had little to no downforce really) is the big reason for the improvement in lap times. The GT3 cars are just so much quicker across the mountain which is where they make up their time. And back in 1991 we all thought a 2:12.63 lap was an awesome time.
Indeed. I was at the 12 Hour earlier this year, to see the GT3 cars coming across McPhillamy and down through the esses was just breathtaking. Until I got used to it I swore every car was going to crash when they first started going really fast. Most of the GT3 cars were running 2:02s and 2:03s pretty consistently when the conditions were right. Amazing to watch.
GT3 cars are detuned for parity - some of the race cars have less power than the street cars. Most sit around the 500hp mark where if they were allowed 700hp plus is achievable- easily.
Onlu just this year a skyline did 327 down Conrod. Shows how far ahead their technology really was. Only restricted by the rules.
It would’ve been interesting to see what Brock could’ve done if he’d been in a GTR
Fabulous Times
14:49 “OOOHHH!”
Back in a Holden and gee he’s really on the limit
The shot of brocky onboard is the meaning of commitment and motorsport, according to the dictionary
Haha Percy love it gives hope for us old fellas!
He finished second.... not bad...... too bad for the cheating Riceline
Great times all 'round.
Fantastic video when you think the super cars, which are purpose built race cars 22 years after this are only 7 seconds faster. Just shows you how good these group A cars are. They would have been a lot faster if they had still been racing them. And maybe if we didn't have Hockey we would still have a car industry.
That holden v8 sounds so sweet at 15;22 love it....
God i miss those days
great days
Well back in 2000 I bought a gtr and I still have it to this day.... I retired it from daily use back in 2009 with a new gtr and swapped that one for another new one in 2012 and near new one again in 2020. My favourite car out of alll four gtrs I have had is the old 1993 r32 I bought in 2000 what a car!
Brocky was wringing the old Commodore's neck! One of his most aggressive runs for pole.
In the career highlights list of Bathurst wins there are only 8 accredited to Peter when there should have been of course 9. 1983 is missing.
The VN was not homologated to race : 302 built -500 required to race . Probably explains why most Sierras were slower than they were 5 Bathursts before -handicapped out of it with weight and narrower tyres
Skafe kept claiming to have been going as fast as he could despite having some errors. There was no need to do this unless it was likely to be in question by other. He was a second quicker than his teammate and three seconds quicker than the competition. Clearly both gtrs were holding back. Cars driven hard will have close and constant times. The gtrs were all over the place. But of course go to fast and you risk protest from other teams which was already starting to happen.
I wish they'd had a little more in car with Brocky, he was being brutal with that screaming Iron Lion 304, I miss his driving.
🙏🙏🙏
It would have been terrific if the drivers had swapped cars to see the times brocky & dick could have squeezed out of the GTR’s & alternatively to see what skaife & co. could have achieved driving a Sierra or commodore .
apesar do tempo' eu dou o maior ponto!
2:12:63 for a 1991 vehicle.
You can be full blooded for a V8 supercar. However would any V8 supercar beat their pace 30 years later?
14:47 😳😳😳😳
Brocky seemed like a really likeable guy RIP peter perfect
Very true. One of my regrets is that I never got to meet him.
Australia has the best racing.
Had some of the best.
Very boring now.
It's shite now, I'm going to be watching TCR not Supercars
Damn those GTR’s were insane. Shame they were scrapped. Sure the GTR was ahead of its time. But the holdens were way behind too. From 1970-1999 there was barely any changes really. The biggest change came with the LS1. Then Holden continued to not modernise their cars for another 18 years. Always will be a Holden man. But as a company. They were always ran horribly.
Was the HRT car using a Hollinger? 6 speed.
Yes - from memory all the cars were using Holinger 6 speed - cheaper and more reliable than the getrag 5 speed.
Wish they still have the GT-R race there today with 4WD of course.
They where thinking about it but the roof was too low and if AWD was added to it, the cars would be too good unless they added AWD to the commies and stangs wouldn't really make an interesting season though..
Maybe with GEN 3 we might get Bmws back or even alpha romeo.
300ks in a sierra
Love the djr Red rockets
When Dick blames a transmission to computer problems on his vehicle 🤣
As bullshit goes, that was textbook.
13:42
When the magic begins
Sierra and gtr were both 600hp?
Is David Parsons in the hall of fame?
24:33 GO! GT-RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
31:38 35:31
jesus christ that gt r is dsmn fast
Where did they cheat in 1991? 1992 yes they did because they hoodwinked CAMS over the pop-off valves, but they were clean in 1991.
they didnt, but race officials noticed "boost vs no boost"
Matthew Delia huh? what are you trying to say child
Cars doing 2.12s vs 2.16 217 is for bop 🤣 how was this even allowed
Ooft. That's the comment. Ooft.
Its funny to watch this. So slow compared to 2015
+Neil Petersen Its not about the speed, touring car racing was all about in your face raw engine power and car handling like at 8:30 holy fuck, thats all holden n/a v8 sounds off its tree, it would be scarier to drive than a v8 supercar for sure so much untamed torque and sfa driving aids
These cars are only about 6-7 seconds off current v8 supercars.
You can't educate dickheads jack. That Vn was built to rev it's arse of 8500 rpm plus down conrod Carrillo rods and the best internals of any v8 out there. The supercars are boring plastic piles of shit with a circus that follow them round. drivers like van gisburgen trying to drift cars for an audience of toss bags who wouldn't know a diff from a door handle ice baths personal trainers speech coaches, it's become a fukin joke
But way more entertaining.
GTR stomping on fools
it got stomped in 1990. like a fool
How perfect is Larry Perkins
Can't believe that Dick Johnson had glasses on
From about the late 1980's Dick Johnson often wore sunglasses while driving.
Indeed. Badass look, but im afraid its forbidend today.
Slug holding his Apple IPaperPad
Why's he called slug btw ? Assume your speaking to an alien 👽
@@colinstewart1432 Don't know why he's called slug....you'd have to ask Peter Brock
No parity back in those days 😂
Plenty of parity 18 months earlier when 90% of the field was made up of Sierras, would still be racing them now if it wasn’t for the Nissan 🤣
You are correct , no parity whatsoever ! fun to watch but an absolute nightmare if you happen to be a driver in a V8 commodore rear wheel drive or a 2 litre single turbo rear drive Sierra , chasing a twin turbo 6 cylinder 4wd Nissan which were so fast & easy to drive I think big bird could have driven them .
Mr. Burns, what are you yawning at?
Six dislikes wtf?
Some people have no taste clearly 😕
8:30 is why aussie touring car racing was/ is still the best, gtr's were faster due to twin turbo and awd, make the commodore awd all that torque at all 4s beast mode
no
Yes
Imagine the extra weight
Um...NO...Holden tried it and guess what....FAILED
@@justaname1862 explain how they failed
lol half face helemt and no blalacliva
O Larry your funny, the Nissan's are a racing car not a touring car..
If you cant beat em just ban then hu.
+Craig Rowe yet Larry Perkins' attitude when he had the fastest car was that everyone else just needed to work harder. Never one to practice what he preaches.
He is of course correct, the R32 was never a saloon car for the masses, which is what touring cars are all about. It's easy to be Godzilla when you're playing with a rigged deck.
The turbo cars should have had the boost limited to the same level as the production car they were based on, that would have sorted them out.
The GTRs clearly had an unfair advantage. The holdens didn't stand a chance against these Goliaths.
That's why Parity was important further down the line.
The difference is that Nissan produced a performance car for Group A racing while the Commodore was a family car suitably adapted for racing. Put simply Nissan made a better car.
Yeah, the GTR was never built to battle with commodore. Its a damn porsche battler... It was very unfair for the commos and anyone else brave enough to race against it. Even though they ended up adding so much weight in ballast to slow it down, it was just no use. It was too damn perfect for racing.
To be fair, the Sierras were made with group A in mind too and they still didn’t have a chance. I heard that Skaife/Richards’ GTR was quietly asked not to compete in the Nissan factory event because they were worried it would beat even the Calsonic GTR, making that Skyline possibly the fastest car in all of Group A touring.
AKA Zeus you’re correct. Fred Gibson was offered by Nissan Japan to compete at the Fuji endurance race that year, on the proviso he shared his technical data and car setup with Nismo. As Fred’s team in aus did all their own development work in house without any help from the factory, he politely refused to share info. In return the invite was cancelled. Fred Gibson takes no shit 😂
Why do you say that the GT-R had an unfair advantage over the Commodore? Was the advantage over the other vehicles fair?
Larry Perkins MOST Embarrassing Comment in Australian Motorsport History...Quote: " On paper the Nissan's are Quicker...they're a Racing Car not a Touring Car"...ummmm. No Larry...not just on paper...on the TRACK!...All said while sitting in a RACE CAR !!! If it wasn't such an Embarrassing Ludicrous Comment and an insult to his Team that built his RACE CAR it would be funny
Jjoo
Bunch of goons here, who watched it live? Me as a 10 year old.
Nobody cares
You must if you commented
John Bowe was a MUCH better driver than Dick Johnson.
Moving the 'Goal Posts' is never equal. Racing a six cylinder turbocharged four wheel drive is a totally different ball game. The fact is that the Fords and the Holdens were nobbled by our corrupt press that stopped the production of high performance Australian cars. Today, a normally aspirated V8 is quicker than a Turbocharged engine (in the USA) because of CCs and development. Our corrupt media destroyed our manufacturing base. All my motor vehicles were Australian build except for a Datsun 1600 Sports. My 1968 Morris Cooper S was Australian built. Our leftist, Communist, treacherous media has an agenda to destroy our Australian way of life and bring in a Communistic Society just as the ones that have already failed in Russia, (the USSR - Soviet Union) Venezuela etc. We fools have given China all our manufacturing and now China is laughing at us. Wake up Australia. LEST WE FORGET.
yawn
Yep it's a joke what this country has become .. we are at a turning point or a point of no return...
The fastest cars are turbo
No it was the LNP who destroyed the Australian motoring industry, but as long as they dismantled the unions that's all that mattered.
@@brucelamberton8819 both sides are the same .. same club .. same end goal ... the destruction of this country.. unions are run by corrupt backstabbers and have a lot to answer for this mess, but it is not only them that are to blame
Peter Brock, what a fucking legend. King of the Mountain