Not related to the video, but my country Nepal, will soon allow people to get themselves international visa/mastercards credit or debit cards which will allow all Nepalese people to shop online especially Aliexpress. With the advent of this and free shipping due to nepal being right next to china, we actually have a decent option now. Heck,might even build myself a server soon in the future , if I need to using old xeons ;)
Good old Windows Vista. I also like the sidebar gadgets. My main gaming PC however has an MSI x99 motherboard with an i7-6800k. It also supports SLI, but I just have a single GTX 1080 GPU in it.
I used DifferentSLI to get two 9800 GTX+ cards working on a P45 motherboard with a Xeon E5440. It worked without much trouble. I didn't really need the dual cards, but hey, it's really cool.
Make sure to get sdi rus origin because the other side can give malware from what I've heard.... The site where you click "application only" to download is the original and okay one
@@rayproductionsbackupchanne3862 I had a look & think I got the Malware one, I was just playin on my parts test bench to check it out so no harm done, Thanks for the tip I'll take another look as it should make it easier getting Retro PCs up & running properly again, I love fixing old stuff 🥰
What i found dissapointing in SLI, CrossFire since very beginning (this includes Voodoo2) was that no one designed it to add performance to existing system regardless of what you had before, but rather give an option to purchase more than just one card. But it had to be same card otherwise you could get in trouble. So you had to make a choice before you purchase anything and you had to sell old hardware. In reality if this even allowed to mix different type of cards and different families we would get problems and decrease of performance. So this concept was dead on arrival.
Thanks phil! You always do your best to get the best content. Your sli videos are very interesting and have a lot of important stuff that you dont usually get told.
i remember there being an SLI mode option in the nvidia control panel 3d app settings, one was for each graphics card to do one frame each, after the other card has done one, and the other option was for the 2 cards to do half the screen each, one top one bottom, maybe that would work better for the flickering, changing that option?
I have that exact x58 board and I like it, it runs a x5670 really well. What I don't like about it is the color scheme, and the bottom two mounting holes isn't a standard atx fit for my tower. I ended up putting plastic clips in the holes for stand offs designed for this purpose. Huananzhi does have online driver support in case anyone interested in this brand. For the x58, they offer windows 7 and windows 10 drivers... 64 bit only. Be aware, if you download the drivers, extract and rename the folders, for some reason drivers will not install because the folders are named in chinese writing. Took me a few times to figure that one out, as windows doesn't tell you exactly why it won't install the drivers. Once renamed, drivers will install with no issues.
@@philscomputerlab yes a couple ways of getting drivers. I tried 10 on this board for testing, didn't even need manually installed drivers, but for 7 I did. Probably use 10 on it though, better support for upgrades, plan on getting a new GPU for it soon.
Love these gtx 285 sli videos I would have loved to have owned 1 285 back in the day, let alone 2 of them. I had a lower level 260 back in 2009 and can't find it now, don't know what I did with it. Probably the only thing better then 2 x 285s would be 2x 295s which I think we're a dual gpu in themselves. I remember they disappeared off the market and the 285 was the best you could get after the 295s sold out. I remember thinking why nvidia stopped selling the 295 seemed like a bad idea. Mind you I didn't realize they were a dual gpu card.
This is very reminiscent of mismatched Voodoo 2 in SLI, that of course being the original SLI. Sometimes worked without a hitch, other times was a bast**d .
Like always,Educational.I tried locally to get an x58 board but they are non existent.Only x58 boards we have are server boards. Happy Holidays Phil,hope you and your family have a bless xmas + new years.
What I would really appreciate is when these reviews go much deeper in depth e.g what chipset is it using 5500/5520? What AMI bios core, it's 8 Ikr. Etc.. Also will the modified bios take NVMe/M2 PCI-e cards will it show up in the boot order list etc etc.
Hi - Another great video, maybe some one has a donner card and try the 3 way sli you mentioned in the prior video What would be the FPS difference between say normal / SLI / and say a GTX1050 ?? Would people achieve similar results or is the SLI more for people who just want a system running SLI because that was the way to go back in the day Mind you at the time i jumped to Voodoo1 when it came out and then when voodoo 2 came out i changed the entire system to have 2 x voodoo2 Regards George
Nvme works great on my X79 board. I found a modded bios that allows me to boot off one as well (apparently most bioses are easy to mod yourself). You only need a PCIE to M.2 adaptor. I love modding stuff to do things it shouldn't be able to do!. Also have a modded USB controller on the same board to run my Reverb G2.
I does seem to me that crossfire is just a whole lot less trouble. I do have a large stash of Radeons so I may be a little bias. A pair of 5970s (triple if you're brave and have a small power station on hand) still work exceedingly well.
@@philscomputerlab 4870s were my go to for a very long period, really taken out by DirectX moving on rather than any performance issues if you were running 2 or more.
Be aware that some software (including games) does not like test mode at all. Mainly games with DRM or Anticheat measures. BattlEye is famous for blocking it. Of course on older platforms that does not matter but especially LGA2011 is still pretty modern (still good enough for even the most demanding modern games).
Entertaining video. And just as you say usefully only if you got some old hardware you want to play with and make a sli gaming pc with some chinise motherboards . I have a x99 board and it looks like you plex hd board..same layout and parts. Only it works on 2011 v3 and v4 cpu,s mine has a E5 2620 v3 in it with turbo boost unlocked with bios mod . I always wondert if sli would actually work on those chinise boards .
i've seen an lga 2011-3 dual socket mainboard with the x99 chipset and ddr 4? not sure if you have the parts to check it out but it might be worth a look. only dual channel by the looks of it, Definitely a Chinese recreation with modern features.
I'd _highly_ recommend using the latest versions of these programs... I was actually able to get the SLI option to show up with a 285 and 750 Ti with version 1.7.1 of DifferentSLIAuto on Windows 10...
@@philscomputerlab Yea a guy named JamesZzzz on techpowerup took it over. He also made a fork on Github github/system1357/DifferentSLIAuto According to his Github 1.2 supports the final GPU drivers for the GTX 285 (342 and it supports up to 347). So I'm not sure how 1.3 or 1.4 worked for you? Not sure how you'd go about installing 382.33 which is what 1.7.1 supports though without a newer GPU installed.
@@FatheredPuma81 I had good success with the X58 board, on X79 I couldn't get the latest GTX 285 drivers to work, no matter what I tried. Thanks for the link, I will check out what's on there. You're the first person mentioning specific driver versions and tools to use, so thank you!
I've been looking for a bios mod for that x58 mobo to enable base clock overclocking (as I use it for a plex/game server) and can't find one anywhere. Any ideas?
Closest thing I have ever seen to what you are talking about is something like this. And even then this is old S939 type stuff. www.newegg.com/asrock-939dual-vsta/p/N82E16813157097?Item=N82E16813157097
X58 was always less locked down in terms allowing licensing, and unorthodox hacks, and overclocking as opposed to X79, case in point: EVGA made a dual socket, overclocking motherboard, but when launch day came for dual CPUs from intel's x79 platform consumers and EVGA found out all of intel CPUs were locked except the consumer facing X & K models :(
Hello, I have one of these Chinese x79 motherboards and I'm having to reset my bios everytime I boot the system to make my wifi adapter work. I cant find anything about this online. I was thinking of flashing the bios but I don't want to mess up their hacked bios they put on these boards. I contacted the seller about this and they don't understand my situation because of the language difference lol so I came here and was hoping you can help me figure this out. Thanks! Merry Xmas 🎄
I have noticed lately while searching for vintage PC parts, that they have gotten much more scarce and expensive than couple of years ago. Although I saw a sealed Intel i740 card was sold for $80 recently. On the other side, I doubt their price would appreciate beyond our generation.
@@p_mouse8676 A sealed Voodoo 5 used to be found around $500, now you it's a used/boxed for the same price Though there are still new CRTs available, but the cost to ship them outside the US is very high
on the x79 systems you said tried multiple sli bridges did you try a single ribbon cable bridge on the sli finger closest to the display outputs, i had the exact same flashing problem when using any other bridge than a single ribbon on my pair of gtx280 and from what i read back in the day the bridges are more motherboard specific than card specific and that the 2nd sli finger only gets used in 3 or 4 way setups
@@philscomputerlab your right. Im pretty sure some of the 900 series cards are cheaper. Idk whats up with the market. 760s are going for double what they did a while back.
I did it once with two 7950 GTs. I bought the second one used for cheap. At the time, it worked well and it got me by. Recently, I did have two Radeon HDs in Crossfire in my XP machine. Results were...meh. High frame rates in some games, issues in others. I did switch them out for a Radeon HD 8760 (rebranded 7770) for $25. 100+ FPS on the most demanding XP games, only one 6-pin PCI-E power plug. All my 1600x1200 or my 1920x1200 monitors are 60Hz so the 8760 with DVI, HDMI and DP is about all I need.
on the x79 system. Did you check that both of the cards had the same numbers of pcie - 8x and 8x or 16x and 16?. The motherboard may only have x16 x8 x8.
@@philscomputerlab Hey I know why HyperSLI crashed on your X79 board under 7, it's due to the SHA2 update, 7 64 ran fine with SLI until I installed KB3033929, then I got the same error you did.
I have a PlexHD motherboard as well, and it's perfect for almost any task! There's one small caveat however - M.2. works like crap. I had so much trouble getting it to work with no avail. Any Chinese LGA2011 have broken m.2, which is a shame. M.2. only works once, then the bios doesn't see it and only getting it out, booting without it and installing it back resolves the problem. Had to install the m.2. in my main pc, while taking the sata SSD from it for the PlexHD. Had to reinstall the system and all that crap... But this is just a useful comment, for you to know)
@@philscomputerlab yeah, i know i can do it, I don't need to, though) I had replaced the m2 for a sata ssd, and the m2 happily works in my gigabyte motherboard. Thanks!
Was the Gigabyte board you ordered from China cheaper than what you had locally or on Ebay? Asking this because people are asking way too much for those boards.
eBay Australia you have the potential on scoring a good deal. But as for Buy now, the prices are actually very similar. GA-X58A-UD3R is AUD 120 / USD 86 and I'm seeing maybe slightly higher prices locally at aound AUD 140.
Hell yeah man I love your videos so much that I actually build a PC from aliexpress it's so cool. Also does fast shipping from aliexpress work for you for me not so much.
I live in a remote location, so packages take like 2 weeks to arrive to Sydney, then another week to go to Perth and then another week to get to my home. But with COVID it is now taking more 5-6 weeks.
Are all Chinese x58/x79 boards basically the same? Or is there variation between then? Maybe there one that a able to overclock. Or different features.
Looks like that X79 mboard takes a xeon 2600 cpu (and those cpu support vt-d). Does the motherboard support vt-d in that bios? Just wondering if those Chinese Motherboards would work with xen-project as per its webpage's wiki list. Would also be handy for sr-iov and vmdq for cisco emulation with KVM (as in ACPI tables capable of changing for IOMMU in the uefi). For example, on any such mboards (especially those green and black ones), have you ever tried plugging a nice server NIC in to see if it locks on boot or works? Example NIC would be dell i350t4.
@@philscomputerlab You'd want to test for virtualisation technolgies (VT-d) to see if your domestic motherboard _(as long as it has a supported CPU e.g. some xeons or intels like i5 2600 or fx-series AMD such as fx4300 or 6300 or fx8320/fx8350 or higher)_ has those virtualisation technologues. The reason I ask is because those chinese mboards look like potential "fresh meat" _(because the existing tested mboards are not manufactured anymore, such as the Gigabyte 990FXA-UD5 and gamers and HTPC nerds keeping buying them all first because they have more money than CompSci guys)._ Cue small violin. You can test for *VT-d* in MSWindows when you check for "SLAT" _(because it is also used by remoteFX as a hypervisor technology)._ HTPC guys who rip MKV files to play over a nice NIC (like a Dell i350t4) sometimes use this test for hypervisor technologies supported by both the CPU and Mboard (just like us guys wwho are into Cisco emulation, and XenProject). Then they can use server NIC cards without their MBoard locking up and crashing. So too do those guys who are into using Microsoft RemoteFX. *Here is how to test (depending on your OS of choice).* 1: Either... So if you use MSServer2012, you can do it this way. This is the easiet (In My Opinion) way to test if you have the desired virtualisation technologies. social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/16652.remotefx-vgpu-setup-and-configuration-guide-for-windows-server-2012.aspx#SLAT_CPU_Support 2: Or... The Linux way to check for VT-d is here. (Quote) _"If VT-d is enabled, Linux will configure DMA Remapping at boot time. The easiest way to find this is to look in dmesg for DMAR entries. If you don't see errors, then VT-d is enabled."_ stackoverflow.com/questions/51261999/check-if-vt-d-iommu-has-been-enabled-in-the-bios-uefi 3: Or... The MSWindows10 way (or one of the ways) to check (DMAR) is here: docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/test/hlk/testref/3b880cc8-516d-4ab4-9d7f-88b558bf4420 As you can see, the xenproject list of supported hardware _(where people have already done those tests on other MBoards)_ is largely made of MBoards that are no longer manufactured, hence my interest in seeing if those Chinese MBoards (which are still made/sold) do the job. wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/VTd_HowTo If you wish to see a youtube video of a rig being built so as to use such technologies, this youtuber has good videos _(but do not feel you have to sit through it all, as it is over an hour long)._ It just might help clarify to you what such a rig looks like. Cheers! Donkey-Learning-IT duration 16minutes th-cam.com/video/_awYpOsaND4/w-d-xo.html DonkeyLearning-IT- duraton 56minutes th-cam.com/video/hPIHZPNlfuU/w-d-xo.html
@@philscomputerlab Well, I appreciate you taking to the time to read it. :) I understand the time constraints. I think, TBH, what will logically happen is that (as with many computer enthusiasts) you'll look into building a Media HTPC and a NAS one day. At that point, you'll notice that the dell i350t4 (or i350t2) is the most famously sought-after ethernet card, and then you'll probably have one of those "Ahh moments" and look back at my comment because, by then on some forums, some media-PC enthusiast would have explained how to install it (better then I have) by then. Just FYI, your supermicro-Mboards are very likely to support those features. And yes, (in case you are wondering, supermicro also make their own ethernet cards based on that intel i350 chipset). Maybe grab yourself a bargain while you can source them (seeing as you have the Mboard). It is inevitable that one day though, you'll end up with a dell-i350t4 (and you'll love that expansion card). Have fun!
The real "SLI hack" was the socket 775 Asus P5N32-E SLI [Plus] -Deluxe- ;) It was basically a budget Intel board with part of an AMD chipset in order to get a full-featured SLI board when Intel was making things difficult for nVidia. Perfect for Core2 Quad Q6600 G0-stepping! The main issue was drivers. They only ever offered beta drivers for Windows Vista.
@@philscomputerlab That's just it: Most databases completely misreported it as a standard 680i, but it totally isn't! If anything, it's a Frankenstein between nVidia's Intel 650i northridge and AMD 590 SLI MCP southbridge. Check out the old Bit-Tech review if the Asus P5N32-E SLI Plus for a better picture. :) I realize that I called it "Deluxe" instead of "Plus"
Does the 2.5gb evga gtx 570 support sli? If so, I’ll see if I can find a 2nd one and do 2 570s in sli haha 😅 Only asking because idk what to do with it...it’s too old to be useful/relevant in the presence of the rx 580 I’m currently using. I just recently sold my old mobo w/ an i7-2600k which would’ve been perfect, but I’ve got a Lenovo tower laying around with an a10-6700u (2 modules / 4 threads), I wonder what kind of performance it would gain if I were to install the gtx 570. With that combo I can’t expect 1080p / 60 FPS, but it HAS to be better than the integrated Radeon graphics. Anyway, that was a bit of a ramble, I just happen to have older hardware just laying around & these videos inspire me to wanna put it to use lol
@@philscomputerlab Thank you for the response! After taking a closer look, the 570 I have uses 2 6-pin connectors. I don't remember them needing that much power! Chunking it into a prebuilt is no longer an option (the psu only has 1 6-pin availiable), uhhhhh, so I guess it's time to get one of the 2011 boards you've featured on your channel. After seeing the price-to-performance of the older xeons, I'm incredibly motivated to piece together a similar build. Anyway, I only recently became a fan but I love this channel for taking the time to show what other options there are for building a gaming pc. So thank you again for the content :)
Thumbs up..... Q: what would you do? I've got a Sabertooth X79, i7-3930 and 12 GBs of non-ecc 1600 ram. More non-ecc ram? Or go Xeon with ecc ram? cost is about the same..... Thanks.
But isn't the FX6300 much newer? Like, 2012 vs 2009 for the x58 CPUs? Sure, it was a crap architecture, but 3 years is significant in the computer industry. Maybe that's why it wasn't quite as slow as you were expecting it to be when compared to the x58 platform. :)
Hello dear friend can you help me please I bought a computer with Windows 10 Home with a single language by mistake and want to ask two questions 1 My previous computer is dead The system that was installed in it had Windows 10 Pro valid Can I transfer the product key Its for the new computer and it will be Windows 10 Pro Multi Language? 2 in case not what my option is to solve the problem [Even if necessary I will buy an upgrade to Windows 10 Pro but will it solve the problem?] Thanks and sorry for your hassle
not sure about your cards and stuff but my sli setup that iam working on with xp and hardware sli and found that 32 bit xp doesnt work witrh sli, needs to be 64 bit.
@@philscomputerlab i have an p5n-e sli mobo and 2x 560ti 1gig vram in both. 4 gigs ram. it isnt working yet because sata ports are under the second card so its a work in progress :) but as for drivers, iam using oem drivers. nvidia say that 1 card works fine with 32bit but sli only in 64bit xp with their drivers. was thinking if its the same with hacked or software sli stuf?
i ran into alot of issues with SLI and idk what was wrong?! i had a Rampage ii extreme x58 board with 32gb ram in triple channel witha X5690 oc to 4.5ghz and wanted to run GTX 770 SLI but it kept showing 16x for GPU 1 and 1x for GPu 2 and kept showing system needed to reboot. i went into bios and changed the lanes from 16x and 1x to 8x 8x on both slots and nothing changed idk what the issue was that
Hmm, maybe disabling some onboard resources? Often slots have shared lanes, so if you use a sound card or another card, it can slow down the graphics card.
@@philscomputerlab the only deviced i had in slots was a PCI wifi card but i later took it out when i tried putting gpu in in slot 2 and gpu 2 in slot 3. All slots were full 16x so triple sli would work but even when u put 2x gtx 770in sli and a GTX 970 in the last slot it still kept making then the issue that 1 of the cards it damaged and only gets 1x link but when i tried the cards individualy they all worked. Tried crossfire for the first time and that was a let down. Launched CSGO which does use multi gpu and with RX 570 4gb i got 300+fps and with 2x in crossfire i got 220+. Wanted to see if sli causes that issue but well couldnt try it. Even tho csgo likes sli better then crossfire
I'm curious why you start your videos with the tear down of your project? I don't think I've seen other TH-camrs do it so you do have a unique style. Funny that it takes a month for you and me to get parts from China. China is north of you. For me in New York state, I'm on the other side of the world.
Yea it's because I live in Western Australia, and in a rural location. So the packages arrive on the East, then get shipped for like a week to the West and then another week to where I live LOL Otherwise it would be just 2 weeks if I lived in Sydney or Melbourne.
Crossfire doesn't requière a licence so if you have two pcie slot you can do it (at least a 4x slot i believe). Sli requiered an nf200 chip in the old days and two chip for 3 way sli, that's why you needed to have a sli certified board, now it's just software limited.
@@philscomputerlab thank you for your content! Just purchased one online several minutes ago :) by the way, how do you find its drivers if they don't include them? The seller said I can just use this without needing to install anything.
@@itpugil Windows 7 should have most drivers integrated, Windows 10 absolutely. For drivers you can use the Snappy Driver Installer project, I like using that, it finds all the drivers.
@@philscomputerlab oh right, I forgot you used that in the video! Color me dumb. Thanks man, will try it out when the board comes, paired it with an E5 2690 v1. :)
@@philscomputerlab hello just want to update you since I received the x79 turbo board yesterday and the 2690v1 is still on its way. Were you able to test and confirm that you have a gigabit lan port? Mine shows that name in LAN settings however the link speed only shows fast ethernet.
Triple channel is a specific type of ram configuration on certain platforms. Beyond that is quad channel as is on found x99 boards Most normal boards are just dual channel. So new 11th gen Intel and Ryzen 5000 series are on dual channel motherboards. So even if you have 4 sticks, it runs in dual change To my knowledge quad channel is the highest
@@patrickprafke4894 that's 8 sticks in quad channel ram, so yeah. I meant quad channel is found on x79 + x99. It's only single, dual, triple, and quad channel ram to my knowledge. And dual is the one mostly used. Anything higher is used in higher end platforms
@@philscomputerlab I think my subconscious was hiding from me the actual age of Vista, in an attempt to protect me from realising how much time has passed since I was in my mid 20s LOL.
Yes there are. You can use it just fine, if you install Windows on another drive. Use a PCIe M.2 card. There is also software methods to make this bootable.
@@philscomputerlab thanks for the info Phil! I really enjoy your videos about the Chinese motherboards and would love to see more, especially ones regarding modding the BIOS to add features or fix issues.
@@philscomputerlab cheers mate, truly awesome to hear from you, totally stoked really:) looking forward to the Friday video. from my collection, multi-GPU systems- XP Pro x64 edn, Q9650 @ 3.6GHz, CFX HD4870 2G, 8GB DDR3, X48T-DQ6 XP Pro 32bit, Phenom II X4 940 black, SLI GTS 250 1G, 2.8GB DDR2, M4N82 Deluxe missing sound cards i must admit , not optical drives though! i have a sad ton of other systems too ;o.
Does anybody know if these Chinese mainboards support i3/5/7’s or do they only work with Xeons? Not too familiar with Intel boards/chipsets from this era. I have a big hole in my Intel knowledge from Core 2 Duo to 9th gen ;)
@@philscomputerlab My main PC is X99. An i7 5820K and GTX1080 now. But I did run my EVGA GTX 480 set I have saved to see if they worked well. They did and have been on the shelf for a year now. They have been paired with an i7 2600K before. The last time I had them in service was when DX 12 was enabled in the drivers for the GTX 4 series a while back.
Can you make a video playing cyberpunk. I never saw you playing and commenting on a video game, and i think that cyberpunk is the Game to do it :) Peace!
Would newer NV cards work better on those "X79" chipsets? You could actually look at chipset die directly to learn what model is in that "X79" board (probably C612). I guess GTX 400/500 series would perform better, but on the other side... both of those GPUs would shine in old DX9/DX10 games, so why botter... if you don't like tinkering around.
It was a cat and mouse game between drivers and patches. I haven't looked at more modern stuff, as here IMO it's better to have a faster single card. SLI for me is more appealing with the old stuff, being retro and experiencing what was out of reach back in the day.
@@philscomputerlab Yeah, since English is my 3rd language I put it in bad words. Thinkering? Good. Actual good value for old games? Better buy $50 GTX 470. Ablity to say "I had SLI setup in my lifetime". Priceless. Hotel? Trivago.
For real. You need an epilepsy warning for your video. I’m not, but I’m sensitive. Causes vertigo and headache for me. Thankfully doesn’t last long. For others though, might cause issue.
Just so you know, and I hope you don't find it weird, but I literally just squeed like a schoolgirl on seeing the title and thumbnail. And I don't even fricking know exactly why...
Despite the "Failure" there was a lot to learn from this. Still made for fantastic content so thank you for that
I'm gonna call those cards the Techno-Zelda Twins.
Phil ALWAYS delivering the best bang for our bucks. Simply awesome. Couldn't thank you more, Phil. My wallet salutes ya
Not related to the video, but my country Nepal, will soon allow people to get themselves international visa/mastercards credit or debit cards which will allow all Nepalese people to shop online especially Aliexpress. With the advent of this and free shipping due to nepal being right next to china, we actually have a decent option now. Heck,might even build myself a server soon in the future , if I need to using old xeons ;)
Good old Windows Vista. I also like the sidebar gadgets. My main gaming PC however has an MSI x99 motherboard with an i7-6800k. It also supports SLI, but I just have a single GTX 1080 GPU in it.
I used DifferentSLI to get two 9800 GTX+ cards working on a P45 motherboard with a Xeon E5440. It worked without much trouble. I didn't really need the dual cards, but hey, it's really cool.
Bruh, Snappy Driver is real useful man, thanks for bringing that into my attention
Good video too man, keep up the good work
Make sure to get sdi rus origin because the other side can give malware from what I've heard.... The site where you click "application only" to download is the original and okay one
Got to agree Snappy is v useful and saves a lot of time.
@@rayproductionsbackupchanne3862 I had a look & think I got the Malware one, I was just playin on my parts test bench to check it out so no harm done,
Thanks for the tip I'll take another look as it should make it easier getting Retro PCs up & running properly again, I love fixing old stuff 🥰
I've an EVGA nForce 790I SLI FTW motherboard and used it to build a NVIDIA Geforce 7800 GTX 2-way SLI system a few weeks ago.
What i found dissapointing in SLI, CrossFire since very beginning (this includes Voodoo2) was that no one designed it to add performance to existing system regardless of what you had before, but rather give an option to purchase more than just one card. But it had to be same card otherwise you could get in trouble. So you had to make a choice before you purchase anything and you had to sell old hardware. In reality if this even allowed to mix different type of cards and different families we would get problems and decrease of performance. So this concept was dead on arrival.
Will you take a look at the new Orpheus I ISA sound card at some point? I'm interested in your verdict.
Thanks phil! You always do your best to get the best content.
Your sli videos are very interesting and have a lot of important stuff that you dont usually get told.
i remember there being an SLI mode option in the nvidia control panel 3d app settings, one was for each graphics card to do one frame each, after the other card has done one, and the other option was for the 2 cards to do half the screen each, one top one bottom, maybe that would work better for the flickering, changing that option?
Thanks Phil! Great video, if I ever get my second 285 working I will try it too.
I have that exact x58 board and I like it, it runs a x5670 really well. What I don't like about it is the color scheme, and the bottom two mounting holes isn't a standard atx fit for my tower. I ended up putting plastic clips in the holes for stand offs designed for this purpose. Huananzhi does have online driver support in case anyone interested in this brand. For the x58, they offer windows 7 and windows 10 drivers... 64 bit only. Be aware, if you download the drivers, extract and rename the folders, for some reason drivers will not install because the folders are named in chinese writing. Took me a few times to figure that one out, as windows doesn't tell you exactly why it won't install the drivers. Once renamed, drivers will install with no issues.
For Windows 10, Windows update found all the drivers. For 7 I used Snappy Driver Installer Origin :)
@@philscomputerlab yes a couple ways of getting drivers. I tried 10 on this board for testing, didn't even need manually installed drivers, but for 7 I did. Probably use 10 on it though, better support for upgrades, plan on getting a new GPU for it soon.
Thanks Phil. Interesting vlog.
Some of those drivers will definitely come in hand.
Cheers, Mon from Brisbane
Love these gtx 285 sli videos I would have loved to have owned 1 285 back in the day, let alone 2 of them. I had a lower level 260 back in 2009 and can't find it now, don't know what I did with it. Probably the only thing better then 2 x 285s would be 2x 295s which I think we're a dual gpu in themselves. I remember they disappeared off the market and the 285 was the best you could get after the 295s sold out. I remember thinking why nvidia stopped selling the 295 seemed like a bad idea. Mind you I didn't realize they were a dual gpu card.
This is very reminiscent of mismatched Voodoo 2 in SLI, that of course being the original SLI. Sometimes worked without a hitch, other times was a bast**d .
Terrific video! Loving this content Phil 🥰💓🥳. I would love to see even newer cards like the Nvidia 690, 590 dual chip GPUs In this setup.
Phil can you do a GTX 650 TI Boost 2GB SLI? would love to see that ☺️
Still hoping for some Sleep mode/Power state fix for these boards. :)
I guess the HUANANZHI board have better compatibility after all, because x79 is also a old platform anyways.
Like always,Educational.I tried locally to get an x58 board but they are non existent.Only x58 boards we have are server boards.
Happy Holidays Phil,hope you and your family have a bless xmas + new years.
I will have better boards soon :) eBay Australia has healthy range of items, but also on AliExpress.
Success! That means it can play Crysis!
Hehe, yes :) But, Crysis is all about a fast CPU with high single thread performance and high clock speed.
@@philscomputerlab SHHHH! I'm not done beating this 13 year old dead horse of a joke. :P
Great stuff Phil! EPIC!!
well done Austrian guy in Australia
What I would really appreciate is when these reviews go much deeper in depth e.g what chipset is it using 5500/5520? What AMI bios core, it's 8 Ikr. Etc.. Also will the modified bios take NVMe/M2 PCI-e cards will it show up in the boot order list etc etc.
Hi - Another great video, maybe some one has a donner card and try the 3 way sli you mentioned in the prior video
What would be the FPS difference between say normal / SLI / and say a GTX1050 ??
Would people achieve similar results or is the SLI more for people who just want a system running SLI because that was the way to go back in the day
Mind you at the time i jumped to Voodoo1 when it came out and then when voodoo 2 came out i changed the entire system to have 2 x voodoo2
Regards
George
Nvme works great on my X79 board. I found a modded bios that allows me to boot off one as well (apparently most bioses are easy to mod yourself). You only need a PCIE to M.2 adaptor. I love modding stuff to do things it shouldn't be able to do!. Also have a modded USB controller on the same board to run my Reverb G2.
I didn't need a modified BIOS to boot from M.2 on this X79 board. Maybe it already had the mod applied at the factory?
Another awesome video Phil! Now try SLI on LGA775.
I'll probably buy an x79 mobo thanks to you, I'm not really interested (nor have the money lol) in SLI, so this video isn't a dealbreaker for me
I does seem to me that crossfire is just a whole lot less trouble. I do have a large stash of Radeons so I may be a little bias. A pair of 5970s (triple if you're brave and have a small power station on hand) still work exceedingly well.
Yea we should look at CrossFire as well :)
@@philscomputerlab 4870s were my go to for a very long period, really taken out by DirectX moving on rather than any performance issues if you were running 2 or more.
Be aware that some software (including games) does not like test mode at all.
Mainly games with DRM or Anticheat measures. BattlEye is famous for blocking it.
Of course on older platforms that does not matter but especially LGA2011 is still pretty modern (still good enough for even the most demanding modern games).
The compatibility issues with the "X79" board might be because it's not using an actual X79 chipset
I have the same motherboard (X79 turbo) I need help getting two gtx 970s working
Would have been nice to see some actual game benchmarks with SLi vs no SLi..
Entertaining video. And just as you say usefully only if you got some old hardware you want to play with and make a sli gaming pc with some chinise motherboards . I have a x99 board and it looks like you plex hd board..same layout and parts. Only it works on 2011 v3 and v4 cpu,s mine has a E5 2620 v3 in it with turbo boost unlocked with bios mod . I always wondert if sli would actually work on those chinise boards .
I've got one of these x79 with a 1620v2 cpu, I have a gtx 690 lying around. I wonder how this would fair on Windows 10
i've seen an lga 2011-3 dual socket mainboard with the x99 chipset and ddr 4? not sure if you have the parts to check it out but it might be worth a look. only dual channel by the looks of it, Definitely a Chinese recreation with modern features.
Hey Phil, have you thought about reviewing a dual x79 machine? As far as I know they use an Intel C602 chipset
I'd _highly_ recommend using the latest versions of these programs... I was actually able to get the SLI option to show up with a 285 and 750 Ti with version 1.7.1 of DifferentSLIAuto on Windows 10...
The github site only goes to 1.4. Did someone else take over the project?
@@philscomputerlab Yea a guy named JamesZzzz on techpowerup took it over. He also made a fork on Github github/system1357/DifferentSLIAuto
According to his Github 1.2 supports the final GPU drivers for the GTX 285 (342 and it supports up to 347). So I'm not sure how 1.3 or 1.4 worked for you?
Not sure how you'd go about installing 382.33 which is what 1.7.1 supports though without a newer GPU installed.
@@FatheredPuma81 I had good success with the X58 board, on X79 I couldn't get the latest GTX 285 drivers to work, no matter what I tried. Thanks for the link, I will check out what's on there. You're the first person mentioning specific driver versions and tools to use, so thank you!
Great video Phil!
I've been looking for a bios mod for that x58 mobo to enable base clock overclocking (as I use it for a plex/game server) and can't find one anywhere. Any ideas?
I wish the Chinese would somehow integrate AGP in the X79 and the x58 for us retro gamers. That would holy grail for us.
Closest thing I have ever seen to what you are talking about is something like this. And even then this is old S939 type stuff. www.newegg.com/asrock-939dual-vsta/p/N82E16813157097?Item=N82E16813157097
You should try XP on ryzen
Excellent, Thank you very much Phil! Hopefully I can figure out getting this to work on P45, in theory it should be okay but still. :)
Yea I think you will have good success with that one!
Can I do this in Windows 10? with a dual xeon x79 motherboard? Thanks
X58 was always less locked down in terms allowing licensing, and unorthodox hacks, and overclocking as opposed to X79, case in point: EVGA made a dual socket, overclocking motherboard, but when launch day came for dual CPUs from intel's x79 platform consumers and EVGA found out all of intel CPUs were locked except the consumer facing X & K models :(
3:20 Windows XP is looking kinda weird today.
That's Vista actually :)
@@philscomputerlab ;)
I'm pretty sure that it's possible to make XP look like that with an unofficial theme
But can it run cyberpunk 2077 ultra setting?
Hello, I have one of these Chinese x79 motherboards and I'm having to reset my bios everytime I boot the system to make my wifi adapter work. I cant find anything about this online. I was thinking of flashing the bios but I don't want to mess up their hacked bios they put on these boards. I contacted the seller about this and they don't understand my situation because of the language difference lol so I came here and was hoping you can help me figure this out. Thanks! Merry Xmas 🎄
I have noticed lately while searching for vintage PC parts, that they have gotten much more scarce and expensive than couple of years ago.
Although I saw a sealed Intel i740 card was sold for $80 recently.
On the other side, I doubt their price would appreciate beyond our generation.
There is always a period that is dirt cheap :) But yea, the older stuff is much harder to find these days.
Yes insane. Barely 5 years ago you couldn't even give them away for free. I would be basically millionaire by now. I had so much stuff.
@@p_mouse8676
A sealed Voodoo 5 used to be found around $500, now you it's a used/boxed for the same price
Though there are still new CRTs available, but the cost to ship them outside the US is very high
I'm doing something similar, crossfire graphic card on x79
on the x79 systems you said tried multiple sli bridges did you try a single ribbon cable bridge on the sli finger closest to the display outputs, i had the exact same flashing problem when using any other bridge than a single ribbon on my pair of gtx280 and from what i read back in the day the bridges are more motherboard specific than card specific and that the 2nd sli finger only gets used in 3 or 4 way setups
Yea I used the connectors closest to the rear bracket. I have one hard bridge, and 3 ribbon ones.
Id love to see more modern cards. Say 700 series cards like dual 770s or something. Dual 780s would be awesome.
They are still relevant and prices not good enough yet to check them out :)
@@philscomputerlab your right. Im pretty sure some of the 900 series cards are cheaper. Idk whats up with the market. 760s are going for double what they did a while back.
@@HD7970 I remember last year the RX 470 was priced really well and best value on AliExpress..
I've always wanted to do sli but I never did it.
same
I did it once with two 7950 GTs. I bought the second one used for cheap. At the time, it worked well and it got me by. Recently, I did have two Radeon HDs in Crossfire in my XP machine. Results were...meh. High frame rates in some games, issues in others. I did switch them out for a Radeon HD 8760 (rebranded 7770) for $25. 100+ FPS on the most demanding XP games, only one 6-pin PCI-E power plug. All my 1600x1200 or my 1920x1200 monitors are 60Hz so the 8760 with DVI, HDMI and DP is about all I need.
on the x79 system. Did you check that both of the cards had the same numbers of pcie - 8x and 8x or 16x and 16?. The motherboard may only have x16 x8 x8.
Yea it has Two PCIe 3.0 16x slots :)
@@philscomputerlab ok cool👍
Thanks Phil, tried HyperSLI on a Z9PA-D8 with a single 2670 paired with 2 Zotac 9600 GT's and that did the trick.
Nice! Thanks for the feedback :)
Which OS?
@@philscomputerlab XP 32, I'm going to try 7 64 later.
@@philscomputerlab Hey I know why HyperSLI crashed on your X79 board under 7, it's due to the SHA2 update, 7 64 ran fine with SLI until I installed KB3033929, then I got the same error you did.
@@GAMMAXII Oh wow, nice for you to figure that one out! So I guess this update is part of SP1?
I have a PlexHD motherboard as well, and it's perfect for almost any task! There's one small caveat however - M.2. works like crap. I had so much trouble getting it to work with no avail. Any Chinese LGA2011 have broken m.2, which is a shame. M.2. only works once, then the bios doesn't see it and only getting it out, booting without it and installing it back resolves the problem. Had to install the m.2. in my main pc, while taking the sata SSD from it for the PlexHD. Had to reinstall the system and all that crap... But this is just a useful comment, for you to know)
Really? Weird because I tested it. It's just a connection to PCIe. You can try a cheap M.2 PCIe card and see if that works for you.
@@philscomputerlab well, it is a very common problem. It happens with 80-90 per cent of Chinese X79 mobos... You got lucky, mate...
@@cloudy_shane I see. Do try a PCIe M.2 card, the are very cheap and the 3rd slot is PCIe 4x and perfect for full speed M.2.
@@philscomputerlab yeah, i know i can do it, I don't need to, though) I had replaced the m2 for a sata ssd, and the m2 happily works in my gigabyte motherboard. Thanks!
Was the Gigabyte board you ordered from China cheaper than what you had locally or on Ebay? Asking this because people are asking way too much for those boards.
eBay Australia you have the potential on scoring a good deal. But as for Buy now, the prices are actually very similar. GA-X58A-UD3R is AUD 120 / USD 86 and I'm seeing maybe slightly higher prices locally at aound AUD 140.
gist a steira?
Hell yeah man I love your videos so much that I actually build a PC from aliexpress it's so cool. Also does fast shipping from aliexpress work for you for me not so much.
I live in a remote location, so packages take like 2 weeks to arrive to Sydney, then another week to go to Perth and then another week to get to my home. But with COVID it is now taking more 5-6 weeks.
@@philscomputerlab I understand it's rough this year. And thanks for replying.
Are all Chinese x58/x79 boards basically the same? Or is there variation between then? Maybe there one that a able to overclock. Or different features.
They are all different! It's a minefield LOL You never quite what you get and there are surprises...
Looks like that X79 mboard takes a xeon 2600 cpu (and those cpu support vt-d). Does the motherboard support vt-d in that bios? Just wondering if those Chinese Motherboards would work with xen-project as per its webpage's wiki list. Would also be handy for sr-iov and vmdq for cisco emulation with KVM (as in ACPI tables capable of changing for IOMMU in the uefi). For example, on any such mboards (especially those green and black ones), have you ever tried plugging a nice server NIC in to see if it locks on boot or works? Example NIC would be dell i350t4.
I use X79 as my main desktop, what test do you want me to run?
@@philscomputerlab You'd want to test for virtualisation technolgies (VT-d) to see if your domestic motherboard _(as long as it has a supported CPU e.g. some xeons or intels like i5 2600 or fx-series AMD such as fx4300 or 6300 or fx8320/fx8350 or higher)_ has those virtualisation technologues. The reason I ask is because those chinese mboards look like potential "fresh meat" _(because the existing tested mboards are not manufactured anymore, such as the Gigabyte 990FXA-UD5 and gamers and HTPC nerds keeping buying them all first because they have more money than CompSci guys)._ Cue small violin.
You can test for *VT-d* in MSWindows when you check for "SLAT" _(because it is also used by remoteFX as a hypervisor technology)._ HTPC guys who rip MKV files to play over a nice NIC (like a Dell i350t4) sometimes use this test for hypervisor technologies supported by both the CPU and Mboard (just like us guys wwho are into Cisco emulation, and XenProject). Then they can use server NIC cards without their MBoard locking up and crashing. So too do those guys who are into using Microsoft RemoteFX.
*Here is how to test (depending on your OS of choice).*
1: Either...
So if you use MSServer2012, you can do it this way. This is the easiet (In My Opinion) way to test if you have the desired virtualisation technologies.
social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/16652.remotefx-vgpu-setup-and-configuration-guide-for-windows-server-2012.aspx#SLAT_CPU_Support
2: Or... The Linux way to check for VT-d is here.
(Quote) _"If VT-d is enabled, Linux will configure DMA Remapping at boot time. The easiest way to find this is to look in dmesg for DMAR entries. If you don't see errors, then VT-d is enabled."_
stackoverflow.com/questions/51261999/check-if-vt-d-iommu-has-been-enabled-in-the-bios-uefi
3: Or... The MSWindows10 way (or one of the ways) to check (DMAR) is here:
docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/test/hlk/testref/3b880cc8-516d-4ab4-9d7f-88b558bf4420
As you can see, the xenproject list of supported hardware _(where people have already done those tests on other MBoards)_ is largely made of MBoards that are no longer manufactured, hence my interest in seeing if those Chinese MBoards (which are still made/sold) do the job.
wiki.xenproject.org/wiki/VTd_HowTo
If you wish to see a youtube video of a rig being built so as to use such technologies, this youtuber has good videos _(but do not feel you have to sit through it all, as it is over an hour long)._ It just might help clarify to you what such a rig looks like. Cheers!
Donkey-Learning-IT duration 16minutes
th-cam.com/video/_awYpOsaND4/w-d-xo.html
DonkeyLearning-IT- duraton 56minutes
th-cam.com/video/hPIHZPNlfuU/w-d-xo.html
@@obsoletepowercorrupts Seems quite complicated and I don't have much time. Happy to run a simple tool to test though. I'm running Windows 10.
@@philscomputerlab Well, I appreciate you taking to the time to read it. :)
I understand the time constraints. I think, TBH, what will logically happen is that (as with many computer enthusiasts) you'll look into building a Media HTPC and a NAS one day. At that point, you'll notice that the dell i350t4 (or i350t2) is the most famously sought-after ethernet card, and then you'll probably have one of those "Ahh moments" and look back at my comment because, by then on some forums, some media-PC enthusiast would have explained how to install it (better then I have) by then.
Just FYI, your supermicro-Mboards are very likely to support those features. And yes, (in case you are wondering, supermicro also make their own ethernet cards based on that intel i350 chipset). Maybe grab yourself a bargain while you can source them (seeing as you have the Mboard). It is inevitable that one day though, you'll end up with a dell-i350t4 (and you'll love that expansion card). Have fun!
The real "SLI hack" was the socket 775 Asus P5N32-E SLI [Plus] -Deluxe- ;) It was basically a budget Intel board with part of an AMD chipset in order to get a full-featured SLI board when Intel was making things difficult for nVidia. Perfect for Core2 Quad Q6600 G0-stepping! The main issue was drivers. They only ever offered beta drivers for Windows Vista.
Hmm I checked it out and seems to be a standard Nvidia nForce chip. I want to avoid NV chipsets as much as I can :D
@@philscomputerlab That's just it: Most databases completely misreported it as a standard 680i, but it totally isn't! If anything, it's a Frankenstein between nVidia's Intel 650i northridge and AMD 590 SLI MCP southbridge. Check out the old Bit-Tech review if the Asus P5N32-E SLI Plus for a better picture. :)
I realize that I called it "Deluxe" instead of "Plus"
@@emmettturner9452 Ah I see it now! The used the northbridge for 16x for one slot, and the southbridge for 16x to the other slot! How interesting :)
@@philscomputerlab Yep. Made it as functional as a 680i for the price of a 650. Remains an oddity to this day. :)
🤔 Phil always reverses his video while explaining things, Is that his specific style?
HA, last 2 years he shows the final disassembly first
I'm curious if the SLI would have worked on Windows XP 64-bit.
Yes I think it would have!
Yes it did but was more efficient on 32 bit windows 7 ultimate 64 was best OS on x58 platform
Does the 2.5gb evga gtx 570 support sli? If so, I’ll see if I can find a 2nd one and do 2 570s in sli haha 😅
Only asking because idk what to do with it...it’s too old to be useful/relevant in the presence of the rx 580 I’m currently using. I just recently sold my old mobo w/ an i7-2600k which would’ve been perfect, but I’ve got a Lenovo tower laying around with an a10-6700u (2 modules / 4 threads), I wonder what kind of performance it would gain if I were to install the gtx 570. With that combo I can’t expect 1080p / 60 FPS, but it HAS to be better than the integrated Radeon graphics. Anyway, that was a bit of a ramble, I just happen to have older hardware just laying around & these videos inspire me to wanna put it to use lol
I believe it does support SLI :)
@@philscomputerlab Thank you for the response! After taking a closer look, the 570 I have uses 2 6-pin connectors. I don't remember them needing that much power! Chunking it into a prebuilt is no longer an option (the psu only has 1 6-pin availiable), uhhhhh, so I guess it's time to get one of the 2011 boards you've featured on your channel. After seeing the price-to-performance of the older xeons, I'm incredibly motivated to piece together a similar build. Anyway, I only recently became a fan but I love this channel for taking the time to show what other options there are for building a gaming pc. So thank you again for the content :)
6:21 Yes it's the first of January 2005
Does huananzhi x58 deluxe can pair with rx5700xt?
Thumbs up..... Q: what would you do? I've got a Sabertooth X79, i7-3930 and 12 GBs of non-ecc 1600 ram. More non-ecc ram? Or go Xeon with ecc ram? cost is about the same..... Thanks.
Cost is the same? Well books down to how does the Xeon compare to your i7?
@@philscomputerlab Yes, non-ecc ram is way more than ecc, ($30 for 8GB VS $18 for 32GB) Q: if you had a i7-3930k, what would you replace it with?
@@rockycassiano4756 The replacement would be the Xeon 1650, as it is also unlocked AFAIK.
@@philscomputerlab thank you.... ; )
But isn't the FX6300 much newer? Like, 2012 vs 2009 for the x58 CPUs? Sure, it was a crap architecture, but 3 years is significant in the computer industry. Maybe that's why it wasn't quite as slow as you were expecting it to be when compared to the x58 platform. :)
I had a look at newer GPU reviews, and even for RTX 480 and 580, the X58 platform was used!
Hello dear friend can you help me please I bought a computer with Windows 10 Home with a single language by mistake and want to ask two questions 1 My previous computer is dead The system that was installed in it had Windows 10 Pro valid Can I transfer the product key Its for the new computer and it will be Windows 10 Pro Multi Language? 2 in case not what my option is to solve the problem [Even if necessary I will buy an upgrade to Windows 10 Pro but will it solve the problem?] Thanks and sorry for your hassle
[1:22] The board says "2 way SLI/CrossfireX".
Yea it's fake :)
@@philscomputerlab oh, alright. Well.. yeah ok, typical Chinese!
not sure about your cards and stuff but my sli setup that iam working on with xp and hardware sli and found that 32 bit xp doesnt work witrh sli, needs to be 64 bit.
Is that with hacked drivers, or on a SLI board? What is the issue and how much VRAM?
@@philscomputerlab i have an p5n-e sli mobo and 2x 560ti 1gig vram in both. 4 gigs ram. it isnt working yet because sata ports are under the second card so its a work in progress :) but as for drivers, iam using oem drivers. nvidia say that 1 card works fine with 32bit but sli only in 64bit xp with their drivers. was thinking if its the same with hacked or software sli stuf?
i ran into alot of issues with SLI and idk what was wrong?!
i had a Rampage ii extreme x58 board with 32gb ram in triple channel witha X5690 oc to 4.5ghz and wanted to run GTX 770 SLI
but it kept showing 16x for GPU 1 and 1x for GPu 2 and kept showing system needed to reboot.
i went into bios and changed the lanes from 16x and 1x to 8x 8x on both slots and nothing changed idk what the issue was that
Hmm, maybe disabling some onboard resources? Often slots have shared lanes, so if you use a sound card or another card, it can slow down the graphics card.
@@philscomputerlab the only deviced i had in slots was a PCI wifi card but i later took it out when i tried putting gpu in in slot 2 and gpu 2 in slot 3.
All slots were full 16x so triple sli would work but even when u put 2x gtx 770in sli and a GTX 970 in the last slot it still kept making then the issue that 1 of the cards it damaged and only gets 1x link but when i tried the cards individualy they all worked. Tried crossfire for the first time and that was a let down. Launched CSGO which does use multi gpu and with RX 570 4gb i got 300+fps and with 2x in crossfire i got 220+.
Wanted to see if sli causes that issue but well couldnt try it. Even tho csgo likes sli better then crossfire
I'm curious why you start your videos with the tear down of your project? I don't think I've seen other TH-camrs do it so you do have a unique style.
Funny that it takes a month for you and me to get parts from China. China is north of you. For me in New York state, I'm on the other side of the world.
Yea it's because I live in Western Australia, and in a rural location. So the packages arrive on the East, then get shipped for like a week to the West and then another week to where I live LOL Otherwise it would be just 2 weeks if I lived in Sydney or Melbourne.
Well I build a system for every video, and logistically it's easier to film the taking apart LOL
@@philscomputerlab Does sound logical. It be fun if you played the tear down backwards for one of your videos.
Can this be done for crossfire on a sli motherboard too? Just wondering....
Crossfire doesn't requière a licence so if you have two pcie slot you can do it (at least a 4x slot i believe). Sli requiered an nf200 chip in the old days and two chip for 3 way sli, that's why you needed to have a sli certified board, now it's just software limited.
I was wondering if these chinese mobos had win 7 support. Then I saw him playing with it on vista.
Yea and even XP works :)
@@philscomputerlab thank you for your content! Just purchased one online several minutes ago :) by the way, how do you find its drivers if they don't include them? The seller said I can just use this without needing to install anything.
@@itpugil Windows 7 should have most drivers integrated, Windows 10 absolutely. For drivers you can use the Snappy Driver Installer project, I like using that, it finds all the drivers.
@@philscomputerlab oh right, I forgot you used that in the video! Color me dumb. Thanks man, will try it out when the board comes, paired it with an E5 2690 v1. :)
@@philscomputerlab hello just want to update you since I received the x79 turbo board yesterday and the 2690v1 is still on its way. Were you able to test and confirm that you have a gigabit lan port? Mine shows that name in LAN settings however the link speed only shows fast ethernet.
by triple channel you just mean 3? How about 6? Any of those have it?
Triple channel is a specific type of ram configuration on certain platforms. Beyond that is quad channel as is on found x99 boards
Most normal boards are just dual channel. So new 11th gen Intel and Ryzen 5000 series are on dual channel motherboards. So even if you have 4 sticks, it runs in dual change
To my knowledge quad channel is the highest
@@stevesmith1383 my wife's x79 has 8 sticks in it. DX79SI from Intel.
@@patrickprafke4894 that's 8 sticks in quad channel ram, so yeah. I meant quad channel is found on x79 + x99.
It's only single, dual, triple, and quad channel ram to my knowledge.
And dual is the one mostly used. Anything higher is used in higher end platforms
@@stevesmith1383 yeah
Hi phil, does x58 mobo from china support gtx 1650 super?
Give me one and I'll find out :D
Phil is x58 pc still worth it in 2020 and will it be ok to buy one now and for 2021
Or buy x79 instead plzz reply or anyone reading this please reply
X79 for sure!
Maybe I'm missing something here, but why did he use Vista? Why not Windows 10?
RETRO
@@philscomputerlab I think my subconscious was hiding from me the actual age of Vista, in an attempt to protect me from realising how much time has passed since I was in my mid 20s LOL.
Is there a way to get NVMe working on the X58 platform at all?
Yes there are. You can use it just fine, if you install Windows on another drive. Use a PCIe M.2 card. There is also software methods to make this bootable.
@@philscomputerlab very cool! So if it is only a storage drive it should work fine but as far as bootable you have to use workarounds?
@@HeyImGaminOverHere Yes exactly!
@@philscomputerlab thanks for the info Phil! I really enjoy your videos about the Chinese motherboards and would love to see more, especially ones regarding modding the BIOS to add features or fix issues.
Which Xeon do you recommend for x79?
There are so many versions! Good value are the 2630V2 and 2650V2 :)
@@philscomputerlab Thanks. What do you think of e5 2689?
1680v2 👌
not worth it Phil, you said it brother. you do not wan't to be wasting time on things that do not work. not your style or preference buddy:)
We will have some nice boards soon! Expect a follow up video with SLI :)
@@philscomputerlab cheers mate, truly awesome to hear from you, totally stoked really:) looking forward to the Friday video. from my collection, multi-GPU systems-
XP Pro x64 edn, Q9650 @ 3.6GHz, CFX HD4870 2G, 8GB DDR3, X48T-DQ6
XP Pro 32bit, Phenom II X4 940 black, SLI GTS 250 1G, 2.8GB DDR2, M4N82 Deluxe
missing sound cards i must admit , not optical drives though!
i have a sad ton of other systems too ;o.
Umm.... why not try crossfire?
Yea we could do that!
Does anybody know if these Chinese mainboards support i3/5/7’s or do they only work with Xeons? Not too familiar with Intel boards/chipsets from this era. I have a big hole in my Intel knowledge from Core 2 Duo to 9th gen ;)
Only lga2011 i7's and Xeons.
Guys help me out, I'm looking for a lga 2011 bios, that will inform me when I forgot to give a thumbs up to great videos like this.
Use crossfire easier
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If you have visual epilepsy, close/cover one eye.
I cant be the only person that sees the two way sli printed on the board?!
Yes, but it's not supported. They just wrote it on their to trick you.
X99 is much better for SLI play. I have a pair of matched GTX 480s saved.
What parts are you using?
@@philscomputerlab My main PC is X99. An i7 5820K and GTX1080 now. But I did run my EVGA GTX 480 set I have saved to see if they worked well. They did and have been on the shelf for a year now. They have been paired with an i7 2600K before. The last time I had them in service was when DX 12 was enabled in the drivers for the GTX 4 series a while back.
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Can you make a video playing cyberpunk. I never saw you playing and commenting on a video game, and i think that cyberpunk is the Game to do it :) Peace!
PHIL PLS DO A AMD XFIRE RX 560 :((((((((
I tried CrossFire once and it wasn't that good of an experience to be honest...
@@philscomputerlab so should i sell my rx 560s then?
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Would newer NV cards work better on those "X79" chipsets? You could actually look at chipset die directly to learn what model is in that "X79" board (probably C612).
I guess GTX 400/500 series would perform better, but on the other side... both of those GPUs would shine in old DX9/DX10 games, so why botter... if you don't like tinkering around.
It was a cat and mouse game between drivers and patches. I haven't looked at more modern stuff, as here IMO it's better to have a faster single card. SLI for me is more appealing with the old stuff, being retro and experiencing what was out of reach back in the day.
@@philscomputerlab Yeah, since English is my 3rd language I put it in bad words.
Thinkering? Good.
Actual good value for old games? Better buy $50 GTX 470.
Ablity to say "I had SLI setup in my lifetime". Priceless.
Hotel? Trivago.
For real. You need an epilepsy warning for your video. I’m not, but I’m sensitive. Causes vertigo and headache for me. Thankfully doesn’t last long. For others though, might cause issue.
??? I put one in the video! How can you miss it?
05:43 please tell me this is sufficient warning...
@@philscomputerlab really? I didn’t see it in the title. Did you mention it in the narration?
05:43 Take a look
@@philscomputerlab LOL I totally did NOT see that! Sorry. Multitasking and when I looked up I got zapped.
Just so you know, and I hope you don't find it weird, but I literally just squeed like a schoolgirl on seeing the title and thumbnail. And I don't even fricking know exactly why...