Final Fantasy XIII and Final Fantasy XV References in Final Fantasy XIV

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  • @badgerinafez
    @badgerinafez ปีที่แล้ว +63

    There’s a part in the XIV-XV quest in which Noctis is in Gridania and if you speak to him outside of him having a quest marker he says something along the lines of “cat people, cat people everywhere. Y’jhimei wasn’t kidding”

  • @foxyfoxington2651
    @foxyfoxington2651 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Ah yes, "Lightning Returns", "Lightning Returns Again", and "Lightning Won't Leave and It's Getting A Little Creepy..."

    • @hazelcrisp
      @hazelcrisp ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To be fair she was barely in the second

    • @chibzie
      @chibzie 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hazelcrisp thankfully :D

    • @hazelcrisp
      @hazelcrisp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @chibzie Aww sad. I loved Lightning. Prefer her over Sarah

    • @chibzie
      @chibzie 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@hazelcrisp I feel like its more that she got boring and it was nice to play the one the whole journey actually started with.

    • @hazelcrisp
      @hazelcrisp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chibzie I think she's an amazing charcater who develops really well over the games personally.

  • @Lrbearclaw
    @Lrbearclaw ปีที่แล้ว +35

    One of the sidegames to not be forgotten is "Chocobo's Mystery Dungeon" as a VERY important side character is introduced.

    • @shiroalter8975
      @shiroalter8975 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And seeing as you fight a very specific boss in the remake

  • @Setulge
    @Setulge ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Despite the dislike and hate on XIII games, it will alway have a special place in my heart and I only hope that we will get to see more secret references in future patches and expansions.

    • @clementbullshit451
      @clementbullshit451 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I'd really love a set of FXIII raids, Fal'cies especially have so much potential that was barely used in FFXIII

    • @Setulge
      @Setulge ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@clementbullshit451 It would be nice if we got more outfits from XIII. I think Vanille's outfit would fit the New World aesthetics since the game is kinda hinting we're gonna go there.

    • @mhiggs8001
      @mhiggs8001 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I love this trilogy! Mainly XIII, but this iteration is my favorite. The battle theme blinded by light is soooooo goood.

    • @jakelawrence6618
      @jakelawrence6618 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It’s not even that they’re bad games at all. Xlll2 and LR both had very fun combat systems and og 13 in my opinion probably has some of the best world building in FF just as a whole (yeah the story isn’t presented in the most cohesive way, but once you actually put it together it’s really interesting). This might be controversial, but I kind of hope after 7R is done that square give 13 another chance (no, no more sequels we don’t need anymore), but rather release the OG 13 as a sort remake/remaster thing. I honestly think if they make a couple, not a lot of changes just a few gameplay quality of life adjustments like being able switch characters during combat or reworking the summon system, restructure the storytelling a tad and 13 would go from being one of the most overlooked entries to potentially one of the most beloved. We also need to remember that 13 was a symptom of early 2010s square-Enix development syndrome. It was planned for the ps2, but got pushed to ps3 and for most of development process the team simply didn’t know what they wanted to do with. As for xlll2 and LR yeah I got nothing for those two unless they completely redid the story for both I’d be fine with them simply fading into obscurity

    • @clementbullshit451
      @clementbullshit451 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jakelawrence6618 YES ! YES
      I'VE BEEN CHANTING THIS IN A VOID FOR EVER
      I'm really dreaming of a final definitive deluxe rework version of XIII that's actually good
      because the world and lore and themes of FFXIII were always absolutely great imo as not-so-enjoyable as the game might be.
      like for example cocoon ??? bitch they live on the inside of a freakin dyson sphere ?!? and where do we notice this in game ? basically nowhere, never is it used clearly and creatively for any of the environments (like I dunno, a cliff at the top of cocoon with the starry night sky at your feet or meadows with the horizon going up) or even the skybox for that matter.
      It's only a small example but yeah EVERY SINGLE environment in this game could have been out of this world unique and stunning and yet here we are with "dull peaks" or whatever and the absolutely incomprehensible bodhum area of the tutorials...
      aside from the world and planet and whatever of the game, Fal'cies are GREAT, I mean, mechanical space god freaks ? sign me in. using humans as cattle, or pets at best ? love that, I'd even say crank the disturbing-meter even higher, but yeah love Fal'cies
      Defying fate is a great overall theme imo and yeah, as we clearly both think, this game could have been a groundbreaking sci-fi FF
      (also yeah fuck 2 and LR in terms of story, the first one is clearly self-sufficient and cohesive)

  • @GimmeTOKYO
    @GimmeTOKYO ปีที่แล้ว +6

    A fun little aside, Lightning Returns actually used some bosses from FFXIV 1.0 for overworld mobs. Namely Coincounter (from Aurum Vale, named Cyclops in LR) and the Chimaera (first introduced in Cutter's Cry)!

  • @jpf7942
    @jpf7942 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like in the Shadowbringers story trailer WoL is switching weapons and jobs like how Noctis switches his weapons

  • @TheSwordsman100
    @TheSwordsman100 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    While I personally am not a fan of any entry of the Fabula Nova Crystallis setting, I'm glad that their fans were given these two events.

  • @Sacrengard
    @Sacrengard ปีที่แล้ว +7

    SPOILERS ahead..
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    Wow!! I never saw the Venat reference in the fight!! good catch!!
    I have always though of Garlemald capital as a nod to FF15's Niflheim capital. They are both empire' capital, main bad guys city, technologically advanced.... and when the heroes finally get there everything is already destroyed by a new threat, in ruins, then even look similar, cold city ruins with a tall building in the background, sad music.... I think there are so many similarities that it was worth to mention.
    I also think Aumarot feels like Insomnia, but that might just be me.
    And lastly, Emet and Ardyn seem to have very similar personalities, bery sassyor pompous but suffering inside with some kind of resentment with a deep connection to the main protagonist... maybe just a coincidence

  • @RyuNoZero
    @RyuNoZero ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ya missed to mention the Crystarium in Norvrandt and the aftermath of the Boss Battle from 5.3^^

  • @Robenicks
    @Robenicks ปีที่แล้ว +20

    There's a couple things I wanted to point out!
    ▪︎The FFXIII Ochu model can be seen as early as the Azim Steppe (they are in the south of the area map).
    ▪︎Perhaps less relevant but might still be fun to point out. Physical copies of FFXIII originally included beta test codes for FFXIV 1.0, giving a choice between the PC and PS3 versions. Due to the poor reception of 1.0, the PS3 beta test was canceled, but the codes were made valid again for the ARR beta test. (Edit: the code was for an item in 1.0 according to an old Siliconera article. I thought I posted a link in reply to this but I might have forgot to send it...?)

    • @gateauxq4604
      @gateauxq4604 ปีที่แล้ว

      You probably sent it but YT ears links. If you post search terms fir google it should be easy to look up from that.

    • @Gonkers20XX
      @Gonkers20XX ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Actually the FFXIII Ochu can be seen earlier than that, it's Sohm Al ( Hard )

  • @chrisrounds1242
    @chrisrounds1242 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In Final Fantasy 15 COMRADES, the opening sequences of the game, you will start of riding on the back end of a truck heading to Lestallum. As you riding, Libertus from Kingsglaive is talking to your character before going to the battle tutorial and entering the city. It reminds me of our characters in Final Fantasy 14 riding on the back end of the carriage or riding on a ship before reaching one of the three city states of Eorzea.

    • @cspcchcody
      @cspcchcody ปีที่แล้ว

      Gridania to be exact

  • @pedro37886
    @pedro37886 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Also the "Dreadnaught" is also a mount awarded for the top 100 players(for each Data Center) in the Feast Season 20.
    The Feast was competitive PvP mode that is now removed from the game.

    • @Gamemaster-64
      @Gamemaster-64 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Of course they lock it behind bs and only to a small group. Even now still hate the pvp locked stuff, even if it not lock to 100 people but 100 wins in this bs? Ha

    • @concarne4372
      @concarne4372 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Gamemaster-64 I remember. I tried my hard to get that mount, but was impossible to get to Top 100, especially after a time no one entered Feast and thus, I couldn't even participate.
      Such a shame, I really wanted this FFXIII mount (though it would be cooler if it had the "March of the Dreadnaughts" theme.

  • @maximesombrelys
    @maximesombrelys ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another interesting thing to mention is the sound effect used when you open the main menu : it uses the same as the one from XIII

  • @buddah1978egypt
    @buddah1978egypt ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Absolutely adore both games. I am desperate for a remaster of ff13

    • @jakelawrence6618
      @jakelawrence6618 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel ya although I think a remake would probably be better. Most of the problems 13 has unfortunately can’t be fix with a simple update. The combat for example while interesting in concept is kind of a cluster fuck and don’t even get me started on the summon system, that thing needs a full on retake. The story while interesting isn’t presented in the most cohesive way, the English localization is so horrible that it makes some of the ps1 era ff games look like absolute master pieces. I get the idea of giving 13 a second chance, believe me I’ve been saying it for years. However, I don’t want just a half assed remaster, if 13 is to truly be giving the justice it deserves everything more or less needs to be reevaluated and possibly redesigned

    • @ClaireYunFarronXIII
      @ClaireYunFarronXIII ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jakelawrence6618 Wrong. None of that needs be "fixed" or redesigned. We don't need or want a remake, only a remaster.

    • @coleslawson9333
      @coleslawson9333 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ClaireYunFarronXIII This comment couldn't put its fingers in it ears any deeper and yell any louder if it tried. Yeesh

  • @sonofashoopuf8681
    @sonofashoopuf8681 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Only thing you missed was that the winged cieth in the twinning is actually a named cieth in XIII an undying cieth named Mithridates

  • @chrisrounds1242
    @chrisrounds1242 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another reference from Final Fantasy 15 and throughout the series including Final Fantasy 14, which purchasing various musics throughout Eos and playing the music either in Regalia or MP3 player during Noctis quests

  • @RaphaelDDL
    @RaphaelDDL ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I do feel there's something which was missed in this video, which could give you a more content for 13:
    While isn't a "13 reference in 14" per se, you could've included the "13 code in 14", aka, 14 1.0 team being forced to use and adapt the crystaltools that made 13 because SE was stuck with their head in their asses regarding "graphics above all", which ultimately, together with bad mechanic choices, plagued 14 1.0 development entirely. I know there's noclip documentary and whatnot, but I still think it would've added a lot to the video, even if just as an overview since it's entirely 13's dev kit that plagued 14 initially. :P
    Regarding 15, I didn't know there was a 14 event inside 15, that's cool!
    Yoshi-P is smart, I assume we'll get a crossover of 16 in 14 just like the promotion of lightning returns around launch time so you might have content for 16 soon xD
    I'm eager to see the tactics videos :D Good job!

    • @Sacrengard
      @Sacrengard ปีที่แล้ว

      omg thats true! a cross over event with 16 would be amazing

    • @gateauxq4604
      @gateauxq4604 ปีที่แล้ว

      Since YoshiP is EP on XVI I assume there will be a full-blown event and crossover in XIV. The 14 event in XV was actually really good and is still in the game. The new Garuda model is great too and only became available in XV after the crossover events.

  • @MeteorGarin
    @MeteorGarin ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The armiger part is my all time favourite reference. Why can’t WoL get that ability like Venat?

    • @gateauxq4604
      @gateauxq4604 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just want warp strike. YoshiP PLEASE! 🥺

  • @NekkoBlue
    @NekkoBlue ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Here’s hoping the XVI event has some really cool stuff akin to these events, I personally would think it’d be really neat to see something like a fight with FFXVI Ifrit like how XV had us fight Garuda. Maybe the quest could even have some references to Ysayle since she’s very similar to the whole “eikon dominant” thing XVI has?

  • @ryusei5965
    @ryusei5965 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really wish XV event comes out again, I really wanted the Regalia mount.

  • @The_Jantof
    @The_Jantof ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I find it kinda charming that after the monster videos for XI and XII, the last two games barely make up for a single video. It makes total sense why that is, but it’s still funny to me.

  • @concarne4372
    @concarne4372 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Funfact: In both events appears a Miqo'te girl from Gridania, and through some dialogues it is hinted that she is the one who gives both Light and Noct the collab outfits they can use in their games.
    I really wish they repeat both these events + the two FF11 ones, with new rewards. In fact, they could give us things that are already in game. I mean, the 2 music themes from FFXIII that appeared in the event as Orchestrion Rolls, or the Niflheim soldiers' armor as glam.

  • @josepadron335
    @josepadron335 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember noctis triple triad card saying something like "we will break down the borders" with is something he said to promto during his dlc

  • @driftwoods2229
    @driftwoods2229 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Been a year hope since a reference video. Hope you’re doing great and enjoying XVI. Just binge watched all of your videos and holy cow how do you do all this research. Amazing videos and loved the series!

  • @TheAuron32
    @TheAuron32 ปีที่แล้ว

    seeing those Ochus in 14 gave me horrific flashbacks to Neochu and trying to get the Growth Egg early... *shudders*

  • @chrisrounds1242
    @chrisrounds1242 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope in a future video. You might want to mention the title of Oracle. Lunafreya is known as the Oracle in Final Fantasy 15. Ryne(aka Minfilia) is known as the Oracle in Shadowbringers. Also, the compass from Final Fantasy 14 and the MSQ quest, including the duty quest music will play as Noctis and the gang complete the task of defeating Garuda. I would not worry about what you missed. I have been replaying Final Fantasy 14, and I fine myself analyzing the story of Final Fantasy has little references to each game in the series, as well as, outside of the franchise. Personally, I feel the developers are pay homage to each of the games, which I respect. Pretty soon, you will have reference from Final Fantasy 16 when it comes out. However, FF16 will have reference to FF14 than the other way around.

  • @Gonkers20XX
    @Gonkers20XX ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Final Fantasy XIV references in Final Fantasy XIV please.
    Might be a bit hard to find but I'm sure there's something.

  • @TehOsoMan
    @TehOsoMan ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Man, I hope that there is a video for crossover stuff too!
    I wasn't playing when the Yo-kai watch crossover happend, I want to hear about that.

    • @Autobalance
      @Autobalance  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly, that's not a bad idea haha I did want to talk about other games and properties at some point in FFXIV and I planned on doing one specifically for another game but I may do one for stuff like Yokai watch/DQ/etc.

    • @TehOsoMan
      @TehOsoMan ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Autobalance I mean, the big one being the Nier alliance raid. That's kinda big.

    • @gateauxq4604
      @gateauxq4604 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Yokai are actually demons from Japanese folklore. I think the ones in the game are from a specific show but if you want to learn about different Yokai including the ones from the event I recommend Linfamy on youtube. He has an extensive series detailing Yokai as well as other historical stuff, both real and mythological, and uses very entertaining animation with funny scripts.

    • @gateauxq4604
      @gateauxq4604 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Drew Costello

  • @carbxncle
    @carbxncle ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm shaking with excitement thinking of the inevitable FFXVI x FFXIV collab

  • @Soooooooooooonicable
    @Soooooooooooonicable ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's crazy how nostalgic I am for FF13 these days. I wasn't a huge fan when it initially released, but in retrospect, I find myself really missing those characters. I haven't reached that point with FF15, and I'm pretty confident I never will. 🤣🤣

  • @TempusTime
    @TempusTime ปีที่แล้ว

    The Anubys model actually appears earlier then SHB. Back in Heavensward in the Aetherochemical Research Facility, there are trash mobs called Cultured Shabti that shares models with Anubys. Now the question is what came first~

  • @clementbullshit451
    @clementbullshit451 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    also in the reaper's job outfit the chest plate is very similar to Lightning's in lightning returns imo

  • @seboulol
    @seboulol ปีที่แล้ว

    Valse di Fantastica fits perfectly in my Island Sanctuary :]

  • @JB6GD684
    @JB6GD684 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can’t convince me hydaelyn and zodiark aren’t somewhat based on cosmos and chaos

  • @darthkamen6564
    @darthkamen6564 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's only tangentially related, but surprised you didn't mention the Miqo'te garb, and Hope talking about Eorzea in LR.

  • @chrisrounds1242
    @chrisrounds1242 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love your video. I hope they have Final Fantasy crossover event again. I feel Lighting’s graphics was better than Noctis. It is strange that Noctis and Lighting stance are similar to one another. Great job. I know there was some references that were missed, but I know you will have follow videos with it. Also, I am wondering with the next video that you will mention Y’shtola is part of the main story line for Final Fantasy:Dissidia. Thank you for your videos. I cannot wait for your next one.

    • @MahalGC
      @MahalGC ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd say that Lightning's model was directly taken from XIII, and Noctis's model was actually made with existing Hyur assets.

    • @chrisrounds1242
      @chrisrounds1242 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MahalGC I know. That is why of love Lightning avatar compared to Noctis. Noct looked weird and creepy in the game compared to his avatar in Final Fantasy 15. I hope they might reintroduce the cross over event with FF 13. I would love to see how the story starts and concludes at the end of the sidequest.
      I did love FF 15 crossover event. For me, I felt it completed "The Adventure of Another World" sidequest," when playing FF15. Thanks for your comments.

  • @benjaminvarner3378
    @benjaminvarner3378 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you mention how the Crystarium location in Lakeland gets its name from the leveling system used in XIII?

  • @Bayleaf6399
    @Bayleaf6399 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was waiting for this one

  • @YahikoTendo
    @YahikoTendo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's unfortunate that I missed out on the Final Fantasy XIII event. I would like to see it come back but it won't since the rewards are on the store now.

  • @ULTIMA-2
    @ULTIMA-2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m a huge fan of XV so when I saw Venat use the Armiger I promptly lost my shit lmao

    • @cspcchcody
      @cspcchcody ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too, I was like, how the hell she has that ability 😂😂

  • @photomatt11
    @photomatt11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m curious to see how FFXIV will influence FFXVI and vice versa.

  • @jakelawrence6618
    @jakelawrence6618 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    RIp fabula nova crystalis
    What had the potential for such an amazing series got beaten down and shot in the foot by 2010s square-Enix development syndrome and ended up becoming something unintended and not what a lot fans wanted. I do kind of hope it doesn’t just get forgotten like so many other square games do

    • @clementbullshit451
      @clementbullshit451 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm still sad to this day when I think of how excited and eager I was to play versus XIII compared to how disappointed I was in FFXV

    • @jakelawrence6618
      @jakelawrence6618 ปีที่แล้ว

      Know that feeling and while I’d say xv isn’t a bad not by any means. It’s one a good bulk of us didn’t want. The funny thing all this honesty could’ve been avoided if sqaure simply planned out better. Let’s say for example when making 13, type-0 and versus they could planned the preproduction process after they completed the crystal tool engine and made said engine with all three core team each providing their imput and request all at once that way the engine wouldn’t have been as one sided as it where.
      As for xiv1.0 and DQ10 (yes because for some reason this engine also had to work with two MMOs) same process. Yeah it’s another engine you have to develop, but this way it doesn’t overlap development with single player games. Truthfully the only consequence of this would be that 1.0 would potentially be successful and thus no reason for yoshi-p to take it over. I don’t know I don’t think I could make sacrifices if I could considering just how much respect I have for yoshi-p and his team

    • @clementbullshit451
      @clementbullshit451 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jakelawrence6618 well yeah, this whole period has been a mess no multimillion company should've found itself in in the first place, especially when there were so many ways to prevent it or at least plan it ahead of time

  • @InquisitorThomas
    @InquisitorThomas 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What about every Final Fantasy XIV reference in Final Fantasy XIV?

  • @FF-tp7qs
    @FF-tp7qs ปีที่แล้ว

    Kind of sucks the Lightning event will never repeat again, since the outfits were made cash shop items.
    The FF11 event had had multiple repeats and the FF15 event has appeared twice so far

  • @DisgaeMi
    @DisgaeMi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Final Fantasy XIII game engine was what kill Final Fantasy XIV 1.0

  • @coleslawson9333
    @coleslawson9333 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    XV was such a great game. Itll be the last great FF in my opinion.

  • @WinonyRyder
    @WinonyRyder ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Didin't needa seeeeeee that XIII-2 ending shit but ehhhh goog video anyhow

    • @RavenScherazade
      @RavenScherazade ปีที่แล้ว

      I've played XIII-2 many times and I still believe and forever will agree that ending sucks SO MUCH. Rage inducing despite Lightning Returns right after. 🤣All that work for nothing... omg...

    • @jakelawrence6618
      @jakelawrence6618 ปีที่แล้ว

      What sucks even more is that both xiii-2 and LR aren’t even bad games if you look at them in a vacuum and both have very interesting and unique ideas. Every thing about Valhalla and 800Af characters are very interesting even well written I’d argue, but the problem is the story that we got more are less completely retconed the original games ending. lR has an interesting premise of a world without time and the mythos surrounding the deity’s of the universe are probably some of the most interesting concepts in ff game in opinion.