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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2024
- War Thunder: Rookie Mistakes
Today we take a look at three fights taken from just two battles showing common mistakes made by pilots flying all nations at all BR's.
The goal is to demonstrate where the mistakes took place, how they could have been prevented and finally how pilots who find themselves in such situations can get out of them.
Note: Not all engagements are the same, these are common examples but there are always difference, the idea here is to make viewers think about there own engagements, where they could improve and if they should have begun to begin with.
Also don't rag on these pilots, common mistakes are common and at some point you have made these mistakes as well, I know I have.
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Rookie mistake #1, play WT and think that you're going to have a good time reaching tier VI vehicles.
meanwhile getting seal clubbed whenever you go.
Unfound it’s very very very hard😂
And you fucking don't.
For the most part I had fun. Only exceptions are the AUBL Spam and the Wheraboos complaining that their tiger can’t do shit, when really they just don’t know how to play it.
@@TheCarDemotic and why would wehraboos ruin the experience for you? easy food.
"Remember where the ground is because, in the end, it is the ultimate enemy." :)
The way I've been saying it was
"Terrain is OP. Do not engage." :D
Liquid Leopard the only thing to fear, is trees themselves. You have to beg them and hope your wing clips through them instead of destroying it
Itz_gray_ 2020 Ikr lmao
The infamous Ace, Dirt
Bet *pulls out a shovel*
The ground is now an enemy of the republic
This is a public service announcement: This is not Starfox. Holding your Q or E key will not stop bullets...
Unless your in an I-16 where it turns you into a flying weaponized fidget spinner, but that is the exception...
SirMan McDude
Weaponized Fidget Spinner.... I like that description.
🔃🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
I-16 has been my favorite fighter line, so much better than the more "Modern" looking fighters.
True,1-16 is small and fragile but its firepower and maneuveurability is crazy
@@hozhuofeng9877 those things can put up a fight to my a7m2
Videos like this make me wonder if the reason I'm sick of WT is because I just play badly
its because you dont pay. the same shots never hit for you and will never hit for you no matter what while your pilots will always get onehitted. this is a rigged bullshitgame
9Finity or just you dont have the brain to understand. Loser
sure noob, you think if you dont understand something than it doesnt exist :D lol. go watch this to shred some light in your stupid fuck brain th-cam.com/video/oC19cGJa-xw/w-d-xo.html its not the premium vehicles are the p2w, the mechanisms are hidden in the programming, its the matchmaking the aiming the damage the spotting and everything else is rigged to aid the paying fucks and push down the freeloaders... go get yourself an icecream loser
"a burst also matters", no, it doesnt, its just press mouse button game checks what you look at, it calculated where will it hit and thats it, there is no skill, no aiming, no random its just your mouse and the games calculations. and i just picked one from your post because your IQ is clearly not enough to go more complex so we have to go step by step
being beaten :D by who? you? i see you are just a superiority complex kiddo :D you didnt beat anybody... and again, your burst is calculated by the game, you can only show it a general direction with your mouse, all other "aiming" is done by the game. is it nice warm keeping your head in your arse? :D
guess I'll just be a rookie until I memorize the flight characteristics of every military plane from the world wars.
lol same
imagine needing to have knowledge of a game to be good at it xd
@@mrplop38 don’t you have to have knowledge of every game to be good at it?
@@angeevids5294 that's what I am saying to be good at a game it requires that you know a bit about it lol
Yeah imagine
😣😫😭WHY ME 😣😫😭
That intro is too relatable :(
Augustine Yap . If you’re not emptying three reloads into a biplane, you’re trying too hard. Or is that just me?
...or not trying hard enough?
@youtube primer that's a very interesting description
Agreed lol
Haha no for me it seems like everyone has aimbot I can’t even last a minute
Top 10 rookie mistakes:
1: Thinking you can win air RB as the Germans
2: Thinking you can win air RB as the Americans
3: Thinking you won't get uptiered at 3.7
5: Thinking you won't get uptiered at 5.7
6: Thinking you won't get uptiered at 6.7
7: Thinking you won't get uptiered at 8.0
8: Thinking you can win a dogfight against a Spitfire
9: Thinking you can win *anything* against Russians
10: Trying to turnfight in anything other than an I-15
Ahem about the no.10 my m8 Even the Ki 27?
Too bad that all changed and now u cant win shit against axis
Sumting Wong Nice crafted bullshit
11: Thinking you can win *anything* as Russians
Being super-new (2 days) myself, I would add "thinking that you can play well with a mouse".
Is it just me or do we always have those times for a couple weeks where our aim is garbage and then it gets better again only to get worse again.
G Spyder Omg me.
I know I'm not very good at the game, but I like to think that the lag from my potato computer is part of the problem.
@@stormhawk4277 Even just a bit of lag can indeed ruin your game pretty quickly.
I have a couple weeks where my aim is alright, then it goes back to being garbage.
Happens in other games too.
As a rookie who is still getting to grips with RB, I've found all of these videos you put up really helpful! Keep em coming o7
I found that watching how others play is a good way to learn, especially when they explain what they are doing and why.
o7
So I was the p51 in the last match. I stumbled across this channel about a month ago and just realized I got a personal lesson on what not to do. Learning a lot from your videos. Thanks MagzTV.
So is it acceptable to noob wobble at treetop level when ur in a crippled American bf109 f4 being chased by other bf 109s that just came out of a dive ?
If you have no other options available to you then sure, just be aware that it will slow you down meaning that those 109's are going to catch you even faster and as you will be slower you are going to have even less energy to work with when they arrive.
low tier attackers have always been to go for me, aircraft like the A20G can generate a lot of lions while being quite fun to fly at there BR. Otherwise low to mid tier fighters, once you start playing rank 4 and above things get expensive but the overall lions earnings vs in game performance doesn't change much.
On the lions note turn off auto repair if you can keep auto reload on but repair OFF!!
play the a6m5 you can made 50k with out prenium
tbh be it my luck but the noob wobble seems to act as psychological warfare, if you know how to sustain it, the enemy can seem to just get so pissed off they just fire as much as possible. Even good pilots get annoyed. It's a cheapo strat, but in my luck it has worked.
i can honestly never play War Thunder RB or AB ever again, and havent in 2 years, which bums me out, it used be so fun but now theres no teamwork, if youre dogfighting with another player next thing you know half of your team is right on your 6 trying to steal the kill, and sometimes even shooting you down in the process or to get you out of the way.... so now i just stick to the almost barren wasteland of War Thunder SB and the more fun IL2 BOS/BOM/BOK. but god i miss War Thunder RB and how it used to be.
Idk the general playerbase feels way better now than it felt in 2016, when I started, playing maybe a match a week until I got interested about a month ago
@@eVill420 I was dominating 3 guys who kept going after me when they respawned and my team noticed I was doing pretty good so then the start using me as bait and every time was close to shooting a plane down in that match my kill would get stolen
I always love it when the enemy (often playing USA) goes "Japanese are OP" "Japanese tank multi-gun bullshit" "Japanese planes are too powerful"
*Japanese Team mind:*
"I never thought I would ever use the hull gun"
"Stupid American turnfighting a Zero"
"We'll just push them down from space to feed the Zeroes"
*looks up* "Oh shit! A spitfire! We're doomed!"
As a japanese player, one thing I am scared of is a spitfire diving from literally outer space.
@@mosesracal6758 As a British player I feel the same about 109s
as a Zero player (mainly) I ABSOLUTELY love it when Spitfires come by to say hi! They always turnfight 9 times out of 10. But yeah, I do put them in high priority in a multi-threat environment.
SwampNuts as a German player I love to dive on you’re “bombers”
@@azairencerobinson7600 I think my most commonly used phrase is "fucking 109s", after I get shot down.
Could you do a step-by-step tutorial on setting up for a boom and zoom? And on recovering from a bad first pass?
In American planes in particular, when I boom on a plane it feels like I'm either going too slow (and they shoot me down on the zoom) or I'm going too fast (and my controls stiffen and I can't get guns on). And since I usually dive to clear someone's six, there's always this urgent siren's call to just turn one more time and save the teammate.
As a noob, I think there's a (potentially long) period where you know broadly what you're supposed to do but don't have the details in a playbook or your muscle memory.
I have the same problems with stiffening in my D13
I find it extremely useful to know when you are going to have a bad pass, while Boom and Zoom is not all about diving, knowing when to disengage when you're having a bad pass can save at least a usable amount of altitude and potential energy.
But this is only done by words, you have to develop something from this theory that I don't know if you're going to find it useful
Ideal B&Z dive speed for props are between 550-650 KPH. If you're going against fighters, avoid diving from directly above. Ideally you want to dive from just behind them.
If you miss the pass, start a good climb at at least 25°, preferably higher. Gain speed and altitude if the situation calls for it, and do it again.
This is how I do it.
That intro was HILARIOUS. However, I should note that in Grivious' defense, Gaijin DID nerf the Ho-103 (the MGs his aircraft was armed with) HARD in the last major update. The API rounds in most of the belts became regular AP and the API-T rounds became just tracers. Note that this nerf is unhistorical and goes completely against MULTIPLE sources provided to Gaijin from both Japanese and American documents.
Now, I do have some observations that I'd like to make note of: while a suboptimal choice to engage two on one, it does look like the Spitfire may have done so primarily to protect the P-47. His mistake was COMMITTING to the engagement afterwards instead of breaking off once his wingman was in the clear.
did gaijiggles ever care about anything "unhistorical"? magical armour thats stronger than it is, HESH, APDS, Mk 103 on the Ho 229,..................
there is far too much to name, but its a fact they really care anymore
But I saw every single round there simply miss that P-47... He probably was losing his cool and his precision just flew out of the window while chasing that Thunderbolt
Special thanks to Griviues for the intro :P
MagzTV I did not know Japan’s planes where good in vertical turn I told a spit to not do that because when I was dogfighting him he was doing good every time he did that
how much does this game cost?
It's free to play, no cash required ever. You CAN spend real money to speed up progression and buy special "premium" planes that are only available with real money. An example is the A7 Magz is flying for this video.
Its free as long as you don't want to spend money on premium aircraft
this is why me, as a PS4 player, is crap at air AB and RB, because we can't look back at an aircraft and control our own at the same time (with out crashing that is) so you have to guess what they are going to do, or be a sitting duck while you try and find them with the touchy controls and then try and react, but your almost always dead by that point
out of all the tutorials this is absolutely the best one by far. Most Tuts will just play the game and talk about very basic aiming stuff. 4 minutes into this video and Ive already learned a lot from just a single engagement. Your freeze frames and explanations are extraordinary. Lots of tuts go so far off topic and never actually go over stuff they are showing.
Important video Magz, these always help the community. If I were to add to the discussion, I’d say flying by the books is a great place to start, relying on boom/zoom or strict energy fighting can give you alot of useful habits, but I would suggest letting yourself open up as you get more experienced. I was only able to fly more aggressively with success after about 1000 hours of fighter combat. If you’re new to warthunder or haven’t hit your comfort zone in the air yet, my 3 biggest suggestions are 1, bind 2 buttons for up and down elevator that you can utilize while looking behind you (makes defensive flying so much easier) 2, warm your self up to taking really hard deflection angle shots, the more you can shoot from an angle above or below the enemy in a 3d space as opposed to having to get RIGHT behind them, the better. 3, get used to abusing your flaps in almost any fighter, they are extremely powerful as long as you remember to flair/pump them when you get near the rip speed for them.
Good advertisement for the A7M1.
Reppu Stronk. Reppu v2 even stronker
This is such a refreshing change to being shown how to destroy other aircraft. Being shown so clearly the mistakes I make so often has reinforced the lessons I have tried to learn from watching other WT experts. Seems to me that you've shown things from a new angle. Looking forward to more of this, Magz. Thanks.
Finally some War Thunder air again :)
The extent of my defensive flying skills is what you termed the "Noob Wobble" lmfao.
11:30 ish He might not have been able to outrun you, as he had a damaged engine. He was leaking oil, he there is a high chance that he simply believed in the long run he would be caught and destroyed, so he tried to dodge instead.
Yes! Thank you for returning to this style of videos. I really missed your "tutorial" videos and how you would explain the mechanics of the game, and just overall tactics and strategies for optimal engagements.
this video has honestly been more helpful than a lot of "tips/trick" videos I've seen online. actual footage of actual gameplay with useful and easy-to-understand commentary. I've subscribed I'm definitely going to be taking a look through more of your content as I'm still new to war thunder and want to improve.
The dislikes are the aircraft you shot down XD
They better would learn from him!
wow, that's way to complicated knowing all that and every aircraft.. Guess i'm dead
Chazz Summer Don’t get discouraged, friend! It’s just a habit you build over time. When you’ve flown a lot of different aircraft, you get an idea of what flight characteristics each one has.
Mags you make some of my favorite war thunder content. Not only do you talk about the aircraft itself, but strategies to deal with it, keep up the good work. Cheers
this is why me, as a PS4 player, is crap at air AB and RB, because we can't look back at an aircraft and control our own at the same time (with out crashing that is) so you have to guess what they are going to do, or be a sitting duck while you try and find them with the touchy controls and then try and react, but your almost always dead by that point
Jack Deveney so true, console controls are way more limited than pc, it’s still fun to skrew around and get frags with your friends, even if you can’t do many fancy maneuvers
That's not quite true, we have the target tracking view, so as long as you're locked on to the player you're dogfighting, you can keep your camera on them while maintaining full control of the plane.
Get keyboard and mouse ffs
No thanks.
k
Talk in bout 4.3's and 4.7's meanwhile I'm chilling with my highest plane being a 1.7 lol. (Just started war thunder like a week ago, not even. And since i work I havent been playing a lot in that week just trying to learn stuff about the game
Jesse Snyder btw never commit to tailing spitfires or any aircraft for that matter in the bf 109 it’s a boom and zoom not maneuverable in its later or early versions the first e might be the best grinder in my opinion
@@azairencerobinson7600 i thought the fw 190's were the boom and zoomers? i'm only up to 2.3 German planes so i don't really know.
Jimmy_Stath1 they both are it’s just that honestly the 190 gets out preformed in dogfights the later versions of the 190 are interceptors and such so there good for climbing but not dogfighting I’m guessing I haven’t got them but the 109s like the trop is not to good for turn fighting with low speeds but climbs like a god
Just treat the Fw 190-s as they were American. Huge guns, huge speed, no turn.
Treat the Bf 109 as something in between an American and a Spitfire. Moderate turn, moderate speed, good guns.
Spitfire are moderate speed, good turn, low guns.
Oh and early Tier 5 Germans (Me 262, He 162) are utter shit because the 30mm-s are so slow, you need to be inbetween 200-400 meters, but everyone's faster than you.
I can relate to these hints so little ... i'm already dead when they engage me the first time around so i rarely have to consider any maneuvering and dogfighting after that :D
i love my p-38k, i find almost nothing can touch it while climbing, or at high energy, i can dive on my target, attack and quickly break away..its nice being able to control engagements, sadly nobody knows how to really fight them too well, another thing...that p-51 pilot just...failed horribly...i take my p-51 and engage all kinds of things but i use its high speed ability to my advantage..also the p-51d is seriously nerfed in warthunder..
Kyushu J7W1, please!
steve polychronopolis ive been asking for eons, good luck.
yes yeees, the shinden! the sexy 4x 30 mm!
If you know yourself and you know your enemy, you may not fear the results of 100 battles. - SunTsu
Basically, it's best to know when to disengage and run away from a fight.
Fuckin got me grounded. I had my speakers really loud by accident and the beginning just played "FUCKS SAKE!"
American team in tier 4 are getting better, I don't usually see people turning with zeros anymore lol
kevin Guo yh they really have improved I was playing Hokkaido 5.0 and every one was high and we never have altitude .ripped the Brits apart
Now they don't climb at all
The intro to this video was very pleasing
Okay. Never give up your BnZ advantage. That’s my biggest problem I always feel like I almost have my guns on target and try to dogfight
That intro had me laughing for ages, I know his pian all too well.
Thanks for this video. I been playing 2 years and watching this showed me how far I've come. Especially that noob wobble. But I've learned alot about energy by playing realistic only and hundreds of hours of dog fighting. I'm just now getting into the jets as I've only done the USA tree. I'm just starting 🇫🇷.
Thing is most pilots think it's just a game, but if u do a little research, just maybe u could last an extra minute
Heres a moment i remember from one of my games
I was in the P-40F fighting a Ki 61 at high altitude and i only boom n zoomed him and he got away despite hempering him with alot of stealth 50 cals
An excellent video! I'd love to hear more advice for rookie pilots, I'm trying to get into Realistic battles myself but errors like this make it rather hard to perform well
the biggest advantage the a7m has isn't even an advantage.its the size of the aircraft it's big its blocky when you look at an a7m you dont expect it to do a 13g and get on your ass instantly
Size doesn't have much to do with how quickly a plane turns...
4230kg loaded weight/ 30.86m2 wing area gives it very low wing loading of only 137kg/m2
Exactly, size is not the same as mass! A good example could be the Tempest mk2 vs the Sea Fury FB11. The Sea Fury is small compared to the Tempest, but its mass is actually a tiny bit higher (just a tiny bit). One has to consider the combination of material, construction and size in order to get a rough idea of the mass an aircraft has.
If you want know how good the sustained turn rate of an aircraft is, you should consider not only the wingloading, but also the powerloading.
Turn rate at corner speed, however, is allways difficult to predict...
yea but it looks heavy, thats what im saying
Fair enough :)
Im new myself, and watching this and correcting my mistakes SAVED me from my planes getting shot down.
I've learned that if you don't know how to fly a particular plane, try starting off using Boom and Zoom. Sure, it's not the best and, with some aircraft, even suicidal. But it definitely helps me get a handle for said new plane.
Turn fighters have the best deal.Just lure all of those impatient energy pilots and you won as for other turn fighters gradually find out how to deal with them through experience.
The only way to learn is to play more, and learn from mistakes. I've done many of those mistakes myself. But I don't know anything about planes or flying, but the more I play the more I know the advantages and disadvantages of the aircraft.
Intro is the best thing ever
The "Noob wobble" is actually kind of effective against low ammunition planes if you've got enough speed, as then they run out in RB and have absolutely no chance of dealing with... anything.
One plane I do that a lot to is the P51 mustang, and in some cases it has worked.
Still wouldn't recommend it above other options, but hey, if all else fails.
have you though of taking out some of the Italian aircraft.and i know your cutting down on the vids (Quality over quantity is best ) i was more just wandering then asking.
I'm getting better just watching this guy
The “Noob Wobble” if it’s spinning, is not stupid, it is strategic and lowers the chance of getting hit
Magz... so you've been watching me fuck up.... LOL
As a American Main the 3rd engagement really gave me some tips of what not to do
Thanks a lot, totally helped! I kept getting shot down when I flew P-38, and this is JUST the video I needed to improve!
It's amazing how much better you play when you look into how these vehicles were used, whats their strengths and weaknesses and knowing the other vehicles strengths and weaknesses. I love studying journals of actual pilots of the vehicles and training materials. The advantage the actual pilots had with the real aircrafts would be immense due they had a lot of time to get to know their craft and the training they received with them along with the schooling on enemy planes.
The examples you showed us were planes who did not perform well in vertical turns, but what about something like a BF 109 that has vertical turns as their strengths? What are some rookie mistakes that pilots do in those machines?
This is something I've learned as I mostly fly British. As a spitfire, I'm very good at a strictly turn fight, but I'm bad at vertical loops. I still find myself loosing to Japanese and Russian turn fighters though.
Last year I was pretty critical of your wt content, but this is the Magz i remember from 2015
whow men you just yelled in my earphone in the first 3 or 5 secound on the start of the vid hahah
Things I hate about air battles:
1: if someone gets behind me I am fu/ked
I have just started War Thunder and finding the learning curve very steep (and enjoyable!) I've decided to stick with the Hurricane fighter until I learn it well, before adding new planes into the mix. I know I have learnt several good points from this video and will think back on it many times. Thanks Magz! Clear skies to you.
Number one mistake is simply not following objectives of the battle. Lost count how many times me and my wife pulled a losing team out of a defeat because we both worked towards the important steps to get the ticker down.
i thought this was a rookie video... i didnt understand half the words in this video xD
I'm going to Russia's 4th rank and I've never see this kind of video (I usually only read the plane's "usage in battle" info). I do make mistakes exactly like these and I think I never saw a replay to analyze myself. Now I'm afraid of appearing in your videos haha. Very useful hints.
Basically noting that if you dont succeed in taking down an enemy with a faster, less maneuverable aircraft just fucking run away.
I'm just sick of the war thunder ping and the planes are teleporting as hell and they don't move smooth. It makes them a harder target to hit and I eventually waste good cannon rounds
I believe I have made a number of these mistakes, albeit not consistently. Generally, I do try to BnZ properly, keeping an airspeed advantage, opening up distance, etc. However, I tend to have a lot of trouble setting-up good kills, and I've realized I really don't understand how to in a BnZ fighter. Most of my engagements follow a pattern of Approach->Pass->Miss->Disengage, which is not only frustrating, but I also don't really understand what I should be looking for to help turn those misses into kills. Even some of my "best" performances tend to result in me ending the game with no kills, either left behind by my team or outnumbered heavily by the enemy.
THE best thing is to learn as many good aircraft that you encounter the most not that you can fly them but what they are good at. once you know that then you can learn to act on that knowledge. Without this knowledge there is no way you can counter or win a fight reliably. Unless you can somehow figure it out on your way
Before this video there was a commercial about knocking on stuff and one was a fridge, and I was like who fucking knocks on a fridge?
one thing that gets me it's how hard it is in cockpit cam to shoot someone down. I mean some of them biplanes at least the Japanese ones have a tiny hole in which to see an enemy plane through. bullocks
Actually the P-51 was built for dog fighting and turn fighting unfortunately War Thunder is not very accurate when it comes to what aircraft were designed to do. As an example the A6M ZERO could out manuever and out climb the F4F Wildcat while tje Wildcat easily could pull away in a dive just as the P-40 could. However it could not out climb or out dive the F6 Hellcat or the F4U Corsair which both shared the same 2000hp engine along with the P47. Also the four to eight .50cal guns (depending on which aircraft you're flying) on the American aircraft would shred the Zero and turn it into a fireball because of the Zeros lack of armor and self sealing fuel tanks. A hit from a 20mm cannon from a P38 or 39 would most definitely wipe a Zero off the map.
Awesome breakdown of those engagement Magz, thank you for taking the time to explain everything is such detail.
Very helpful, a whole series of these would be very well received.
Guy: goes after this guy
him: that was his first mistake
I mean when I play war thunder it’s not like I memorize which plane is good for vertical dogfights and which ones have better horsepower I just play
A very useful video. Highlighted my own errors. Especially the follow the vertical thing.
Would love to see "play like a pro" on sim, where SA is a lot harder since there is no targets name plates and youre stuck in cockpit.
Biggest issue i see is determining Friend from Foe, on ps4 typing in chat sucks.
I have found that the noob wobble is somewhat effective in AB, with many low-skill players around. Because of the enhanced flight models on the aircraft, the speed lost is not very critical and I have been able to minimize damage from someone I would not have been able to get away from normally, living long enough to even secure another kill or two in a giant furball. However, if playing RB, it makes sense to have more of a priority on surviving than getting as many kills as possible before jumping in your next aircraft like in AB.
One of my beautiful loop I did was a near sea crash, I almost tutch the water. No one was expecting me to survive at this very dungerous loop. I run away and survived.
Beautiful game I'll say
The biggest noob mistake is believing that War Thunder is at all realistic. The A7 realistically would have suffered from the same problem as the A6M5, it sacrificed durability for maneuverability. In real life a short burst from American aircraft would have been enough to destroy both aircraft.
The thing is you actually have to hit it and that's the tricky part. That's where the skill of the pilot comes in. F4F Wildcats decimated Zeros at Midway because the Americans had learned not to turn fight with Zeros and forced them into fights that favored their aircraft.
@@stormhawk4277 and also wild cats weren't fucking rice-reinforced bags of garbage
The best way to play warthunder is to go into a battle rating of 2 or 3 but pulling out le ol biplane and out flying those fancy mono planes. Nothing is more satisfying then shooting down a yak with a HE51
"Spitfire pilots seems to be used to being the most maneuverable thing in the sky"
That is very true for me, and which is why I am always afraid when I get matched against Japanese, as I did started out in the Japanese line and know very well how easy it is to kill Spitfires.
How to counter that vertical bait turn? Or someone turning into my trajectory (so I'd go CFIT if I dive steeper)?
I very often commit these mistakes, knowing full well the consequences, because man it takes forever to setup a BnZ and disengage so I'd just f**k it and turn fight a turn fighter as American. If I die I'll just join another game...
"How to counter that vertical bait turn?" - By seeing what it is and not commuting too it in the first place. It's a trap, once you are inside the trap it's over.
"because man it takes forever to setup a BnZ and disengage so I'd just f**k it and turn fight a turn fighter as American. If I die I'll just join another game." - Well. . I and all other players that take the time to learn how to use their aircraft correctly woudl like to thank you for the free RP and credits.
That may sound snarky but it's the reality of the situation. If your not even trying to use your aircrafts advantages you are just an RP and credit piñata for someone who is.
@@MagzGTV Thanks for the advice :)
So I think overall when you’re in something such as a Mustang or something built for Boom and Zoom and a Spitfire or anything is that close to you, I don’t think doing a noob wobble or just diving has done much good for me.
If you just dive, you’re slowly gaining speed but are also in a straight and predictable path so either way, I think 9/10 times you’re fixked
And here I am, a noob who knows nothing about planes trying to understand as much as he can bc he has just started playing and wants to know how to improve
And don't understanding anything
How about now?
Been playing war thunder for a while and these are my favorite videos of yours. Wish you had more they helped me a lot back in the day.
I watched for less than a minute and laughed already(also new sub)
I'm loving these videos Magz, I know this is an older video but I'm still learning a lot from these. Trying desperately to get on your level!
I love these tips, it would be really nice if the Americans and Germans started following them more. I get so tired of being one of two or three smart pilots that follow these rules, but lose because it's now 2 v 7/8 and we have no hope.
MagzTV you do an incredible job with these clips. I play mainly GF, but thanks to your tips I can put more or less a fight on AF. Or at least I do know now why someone turn me into cheese while it happens.
I do the noob wobble, but try to keep it as random as possible, and even move towards the tracers knowing the pilot behind me will be adjusting his fire causing him to miss again. I usually die in situations like that, but it does keep me alive like 5x longer than if I wasn't wobbling. I WILL try to wobble less, though.
Pretty much always comes down to knowing you and your enemies plane use your planes strengths against your enemies weaknesses
Could you give us a highlight reel of your aerial exploits against your toughest opponents, would absolutely love to see that!! Thks and keep up the great work...
As a ground forces player this makes my brain fizzle 😂
And as we can see, all of the mistakes stem from the same roots. In order to avoid them, you'd have to break off and get away. But that is boring. You've just engaged a target, maybe even scored a hit, you're having fun, so why stop having fun and breaking off? Comitting to a target is more fun than not and therefore people will try to finish their commitment, even if their plane was not designed to do that. Which is why American planes are usually either regarded as "bad" or "boring".
"so why stop having fun and breaking off?" - Because getting shot down by an aircraft that you had no chance of beating in a situation where it has all the advantages thanks to you handing them over is even less fun than breaking off, positioning yourself to your advantage and killing said aircraft.
In the end we all want to win and find winning fun, there is no point in trying to push an engagement if it's only going to give you a swift trip back to the hanger.
I found the problem is those people's defination of "fun" involve constant Hollywood-style action, even if it put themselves in a bad position. I remember asking some players why they fly low altitude with 109s and 190s instead of climbing, their answers are basically "because it take forever to get in an engagement and its boring"
MagzTV I know that, you know that. But that requires you to use your head and not fly with the adrenaline. And a lot of players fly with the adrenaline, because they don't think about the battle, but just in maneuvers. There should be an incentive by the game to get people to use altitude for example, but you don't get any score for climbing to alitude, keeping the enemy from that altitude or getting into the fight after your entire team has been annihilated at low altitude.
Indeed, That's why I made this video. My hope is it will get the people that watch it to think about how they are flying and consider the situations they find themselves in rather than just reacting. Adrenaline has it's place of course but it must be refined with a little thinking.
Getting kills and winning the game rewards the player with lots of RP and SL. I don't see any missing incentives...
On the contrary, I've met plenty of scared Bf109 players spending lots of time climbing 3km above me, wait for me and/or my friends to kill all teammates, dive on me, point the nose back up as soon as I look in their general direction then stay 5km above me and lose the game because they feel so uncomfortable giving up altitude for just a few seconds. I don't feel like there should be insentives for them to add 5 more kilometer to their potential energy bank.
I think it would help a lot more if people just got more comfortable with their aircraft and its abilities (and inabilities).
:)
(why are you running meme) why are you turning WHY ARE YOU TURNING why are you turning
As a P-38 lover that was PAINFUL to watch. It's as if he suddenly thought he was in an F-4...