I noticed two different Type S haters. One is the Type R drivers displaying sibling rivalry attitudes. Second is the guys who say it’s too expensive. But all cars in 2024 are too expensive.
Bro you know how people on TH-cam are. Typing their little hearts out and usually can’t afford half the shit they mad at. You got the “it’s too expensive” crowd, then you got the “it’s not a two door, and it doesn’t look like an Integra” crowd. Nobody cares about either. 😂😂😂 Enjoy your ride even if it is public transportation🥴. Let people enjoy the money they work for and spend it how they please…simple.
I have the 2024 fl5 sonic gray and absolutely love the thing. I just recently got it next to a tyger eye Teggy which I wanted originally and was so underwhelmed it actually made me ten times happier with my purchase. I think another reason the type R is special is cause all the body panels except the front doors are unique to the type R and not from regular civic. Can’t say the same for the type s and regular Teggy. Not to mention that numbered badge on the type R 👌 it’s the little details that count.
There are more than 3 extra things over the CTR. The most notable ones are: -Rain Sensing wipers -Longer Warranty -Wider Powerband -Performance Oriented Exhaust -Leather Interior -HUD -Radar Sensors in the bumpers -Sound Deadening -Aggressive body kit -Premium Sound System -Powered Driver Seat with plenty of adjustments -Heated Front Seats
Some people, sure, but not all people. Me for one, can afford Aspec 1.5L MT and the Type S, but I want about a half a dozen Acura standards (Iconic drive, rear climate control, etc.) that do not come on the Integra
Been a minute man happy to see your happy. Integra Type S Is An Amazing platform and the ppl tht hate on it are hopping ona trend. People scared to be different nowadays plus the hate is real admiration.
Spot on about the harsh ride of the Civics. I've had 3 gens of Preludes, a Civic SI 8th gen & Civic SI 9th gen and now the Integra A-Spec 6-spd man white/red and the ride is NICE. I got the A-Spec over the Type-S bc of price plus it has the memory seat, power passenger seat, and moon roof. The 1.5 liter engine has just the right power, and I get 35mpg mixed driving. I added 25mm wheel spacers and it looks even better. 👍
If you’re a true car enthusiast, you don’t hate on any enthusiast driven car. Type S and Type R are virtually the same car. They’re both amazing. And you said it right, Que, to completely dismiss a car because it’s FWD is close minded. There’s room to appreciate all drivetrains. They each have their own nuances that make them fun to drive. The haters are just close minded and uneducated.
Que, all us ITS owners feel that pain with you. It’s crazy how the car community is so full of hate. It’s one thing being respectful and disagreeing with opinions but the full on hate makes me wanna not be active in the car community. I don’t understand how the ITS being just a civic is a bad thing either. Civics are great! The ITS is basically just a Type R touring, of course it’s gonna cost more. Haters are gonna hate. Only thing that matters is how you feel about your car
Seems to me the most likely sentiments that could cause such hate are jealousy and the feeling one might get when, for example, he has been the only one to have a unique and desirable thing in his neighborhood for a long time, and then one day one of his neighbors gets a very similar one, and so the former might lose some of that feeling of pride that he had being the sole owner of that unique item. Jealously and wounded pride.
My gripe is, the Type R killed it with the wife body, but the Type S wide body looks really stuck on, even more than the GRC. Still, it's an incredibly nice looking sport back sedan/hatch and I'd own one in a minute!
It's not about hate in any way for me. I'll start by saying the car is okay and the performance is good, while the interior is nice. I'm not a fan of the styling, it's way too expensive, it's only FWD, and that front emblem is huge and ugly as all get out. And to clarify it's not that it's FWD, it's because of the price they want for it being FWD. It should be AWD for the money they are asking and it will then be able to get the power down. I also feel the same way about the Civic Type R, too much money for a FWD with a crazy red interior and no heated seats and no heated steering wheel. On top of that I saw $10k-$15k ADM on the CTR and ITS so for $55k to $70k the cars aren't worth it in any way possible. The cars would be nice if the prices were less for what they are giving the buyer. I don't care about fluff, I want substance. But then, you already know that! 🤣🤣🤣
Great video brother, it's just like I said in a couple of my videos they are both great cars so I don't get anyone hating on either of them, or any manual gearbox cars being offered today in all honesty. I personally prefer the Type R but I am also glad that the Type S exists too, even EV cars that I'm not a fan of at all I have no problem with them existing, they just won't be for me.
It only gets hate from people who are hateful and/or super biased. ITS is a great car man. I love mine. There are a lot of things it’s not but there are lots of other options.
I own one, I get everything is expensive now a days, Type R IMO is properly priced now, but the Type S is too expensive (I even paid MSRP with zero add-ons) for what you get amenity wise. But mechanically speaking, nothing else "NEW" at that price point checked all the boxes for me. I don't like the screaming red interior of the Type R, and prefer the overall look of the Type S. That said at this price point, I expect it at least have a few "luxury features" which some the AType Tech has. Memory Seats (AType Tech has this) Tilting mirror when going into reverse (AType Tech has this) At least add some USB charging ports for the rear (AType Tech has this) Built-in GPS (my android auto sometimes disconnects at random times and other times i'll need it in an area with no cellular signal and forget to download offline maps) [Only the Honda Civic variant gets this] Homelink Mirror [Honda Civic variant gets this] - at least it's an easy swap into the ITS Fine, i don't care that it's missing 360 camera, but geez they could have added a high-resolution back up camera
Well, I just got my Type S in the Tiger Eye last week.. so far!! I’m loving it! And yes the price is overpriced!! But that’s what I agreed to pay for!! It’s expensive! I have always wanted an Integra.. so I can say that I am Grateful to GOD to have been able to purchase it!!! Thanks, this is my two cents of LOVING IT! Memphis, Tennessee!
Most enthusiast are mad because it looks nothing like the dc2 Intergra Type R’s from the 90s and early 2000’s. Their also mad that the Civic in general is huge now with no VTEC. At first, I said the same thing. But in 2024, im just thankful to have Honda and Acura (same company) still make new manuals in a world thats growing with Electric cars and ppl who don’t even care about driving. I remember being a Tech at Acura and being bummed out that i missed the golden era of being able to watch new manual transmission cars come out. And i was so hyped that they bought them back. Honda is a brand that listens and caters towards its enthusiasts customers and i respect that.
I think Acura absolutley killed it with the new 4 door sport-back design 👌🏻 Coming from an old school Integra and RSX owner that was hoping it would be a coupe. Look at it this way.. If it wasn't a dope whip, they wouldn't be hatin 🤣
@@QueTheChaotic In the past I've owned a forest green GSR coupe w beige leather and a red w black leather.. Then a blue RSX-S w black leather let go of in 2019.. They had an amazing feel and brought a lot of driver enjoyment everytime vtec cracked 👍🏻 I'm kicking myself now for not holding onto at least one of them
Do you also own a 24 Mustang GT 5.0? I am legit between these two cars! I know they are very different cars. I plan on keeping either one for atleast 20 years. Summer car only. Leaving more towards the its. But that's only because I've heard of all the issues with the Mustang, quality issues, infotainment system isn't as good, issues with the manual transmission, cheaper fit and finish ect. But i love the look and sound of the 5.0 GT
That’s a tough one. The ITS is well sorted and doesn’t have many issues. For a summer only car it’s hard not to choose the Mustang. Hopefully a SS update can fix any infotainment issues.
I really dig the Teggy type S. Got to drive one last summer and enjoyed it. I stayed in the market for one up until earlier this month because I was also looking for a great deal on type R. They are both very similar obviously and I for one love em both but I did finally choose on the CTR over the ITS. You get better exhaust and rear LED turn signals on the Acura. The Honda you get better seats and racing/s2000 like odometer with shift lights. It really could’ve went either way for me personally but I’m very happy with my purchase. Keep enjoying your Teggy bruh. They both are great cars.
It seems to me that the more compliant ride of the ITS is the main difference. And looks of course. As far as the seats go, for a car that will be a daily driver for the large majority of the time, I prefer the adjustability of the power seat and my back prefers the lumbar support.
To quote the well-spoken words of Car and Driver: VERDICT: The Integra Type S delivers all the thrills and driver satisfaction of its rowdy Civic Type R sibling in a more dignified, feature-laden package that can speak softly when asked.
@@lionary Both vehicles have some features that are missing from each other so it’s all about personal(subjective) taste. Another big reason I chose the type R is because it’s going to have the better resale value of the two down the road. When you look at FK8 models, it’s crazy how much those cars are still going for despite being several years old. It’s a legendary badge in short supply but Honda also did a great job on the ITS.
A lot of people don't understand what this car was built for which is slightly more luxurious and performance. Yea the price sucks we all can agree on that but how many people over paid for the type r a lot im sure. People complain about it not it being AWD. Why would you want more weight when the purpose of this is awesome light weight performance. FWD LSD is just fine for this car. People complain about it not having a sun roof who cares. A sun roof isn't performance related it's the opposite because it adds weight not much but enough to deem it unnecessary and takes away from the head space in the car and could potentially leak eventually but I could go on and on but I will say I think they could of slipped in memory seats for the driver but definitely not a deal breaker this car was built for the driver not the passengers but they were nice enough to allow passengers to experience the performance. I will take the type s over the type r anyday looks way better than the FL5 which is ugly to me the FK8 looks way better. I'll be buying the type s next week. I already got over the expensive price.
Morning Que, Another great video Bro.. I’m not seeing the hate for the ITS on the West Coast. Most people including me were disappointed about the initial mark ups on the ITS. But the moment I drove the car I was hooked and the ITS has been worth every penny!! Keep up the good work!👏🏾👊🏾💯
I've actually had several people try to hit me and run me off the road. It's awful. People are jealous of this car because it is so beautiful and I cannot stand how people drive because they do not pay attention. Thank God they made this car. I'm gonna love it as long as I could have it for
Tbh, i havent heard any hate for the car. Not a single youtuber who has any significance to automotive journalism out there has put the ITS down as a whole. There things to dislike here and there. But nothing to HATE on the car.
The car enthusiast community can be toxic sometimes. I'd bet that most of the outspoken critics of the DE5 (and FL5 for matter) have never driven one. It's a pricey car, but I still haven't found a cheaper brand new car that is more well rounded as a daily friendly performance car. Elantra N is the better value, but the Integra is the better car.
💯 The next best all arounder would be the CT4 blackwing. It’s more expensive yet smaller. Great comparison video you did on the Type S, SS 1LE and the CT4 BW
@@QueTheChaotic agreed! CT4-V BW is great. It feels a lot heavier than the Integra though. The choice depends on whether you favor light weight with sharp inputs, or RWD dynamics with more power.
No hate, but a little constructive criticism for your videos, I would like it if you actually drove the car while talking about it, maybe a pov drive or something. The last several videos is just you talking and it doesn’t really keep the average viewers attention imo. That’s all.
For the price it is missing so much: iconic drive color changing ambient lighting, rear climate control, power front passenger seat, acoustic glass, premium leather seats, auto folding mirrors and available SH-AWD. The heart of the issue is this, unlike other Acuras, the Integra is NOT an Acura, it's an overpriced Honda.
Have you run into the problem with the coolant overflow reservoir rupturing? I've seen in ITS forums where many owners have had this problem starting as early as 800 miles.
People hate the car because just came out right after any of the cars that people were owned and much more better n expensive so they want to trade in to in this car but the fact was people can’t own 2 cars at the same time. The reason they hate this car because the type r came out first n the type S came out after. Why? People hate the type S because who ever owned the type r they do love their type r so much n they don’t want any better than type r but unfortunately the type S was better that’s why they hated the type S so much brother so just be honest n happy because you owned one and I love your type S better always ❤
FL5 Civic Type R...Built in Japan. DE5 Integra Type S...built in Ohio. That's all you need to know. Panel gaps on the ITS is piss poor compared to the CTR. Shows you the craftsmanship and dedication to accuracy that the Japanese have over the American factories. Its a known fact. The FL5 just feels more SPECIAL, inside and out. The seats are 1000x better and more supportive. GO to any Cars & Coffee and park these cars side-by-side. The FL5 will get more attention. And I guarantee you in 10, 20, 30 yrs from now, the FL5 will be more sought after than the DE5. When this generation of Integra first came out, I'll be honest, it was underwhelming. It looked nothing like the Integras I grew up liking in the 90s. It just looked like any other cookie cutter sedan Acura has in its lineup. Nothing special about it. So when they announced the Type S, it didn't peak my interest at all. But to each, their own. What I will say about the ITS is that for what it is, a highly capable FWD super sedan...its wonderful. I can't think of any FWD sedan thats better handling and provides the sporty nature than the ITS, hands down. The flared fenders and wider stance definitely help in its appearance. It gives it more of a presence than the normal Integras for sure. At that price though...there are some other more compelling sedans that I'd consider. But if you want Honda reliability, a fairly limited run car, and solid performance, the DE5 gets the job done. Be proud of your car, my guy! Big up's for defending what you believe in! 😁 I just don't think its going to age as well as the FL5 will in the future.
I agree with mostly all of what you said. It’s just the special feeling to me which is subjective. What makes it feel more special? Being manufactured in Japan adds to it but I haven’t noticed a difference in build quality. I’ll get some seat time in one next month. I appreciate your input.
@@Marbind we both get this drone/rattle at the B pillar on the driver side. Also passenger A Pilar. Ohio has a high standard of quality (compared to other OEMs)
People think that Honda Corp will let Acura do things on their own way. Everyone must follow the same build protocols. People blast the Integra for being built in USA but forget that the heart in their car is built here too. That is the ironic thing. @@QueTheChaotic
@@Marbind I'm on the forums and FB groups. Although I do see complaints for both on rattles, can't say the same for panel gaps. Not quite as terrible as Tesla, but the inconsistent panel gaps on the DE5 are inexcusable. Their QC needs to better.
i just wish the seats were a little more sporty and the gauges haha I've seen a few people do some nice drives with the ITS, and its won the Road And track PCOTY under $100k too. cant wait to upgrade from a spec to type S haha
I like the 4 door cars nowadays. Before, I loved coupes, not sedans, but access to the rear seats is so much easier via a door. Especially with my GR Corolla. The rear doors are small but come in handy. Cars are expensive and with the new UAW contract ain’t going to make cars cheaper in the future. Glad I bought a new car now instead of in a few years. Bidenomics & "good union jobs" = inflation.
Brother this real and talk real remember the Subaru wrx came out first and the Sti came out after look the wrx never ever replaced or compared to the sti ever n never replaced the Sti name. The Sti always better so you pretend in to this 2 cars, for example type r came out first n type s out after so mean type s is better car because they retune and fix all the things that type r was missing. Love both cars but type s can do more things. Remember you are not track your car than you daily so be happy you were make the right decision on your type s ❤
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I noticed two different Type S haters. One is the Type R drivers displaying sibling rivalry attitudes. Second is the guys who say it’s too expensive. But all cars in 2024 are too expensive.
Facts to both of your comments.
This
the car gets gapped by 99.99% of the cars at the same price point. this car is beyond overpriced.
@@jp23x So what car do you drive that’s a better value?
@@jp23x haha, check out youtube video: The New Acura Integra Type S Is the Best FWD Car In a Decade - TheSmokingTire
Bro you know how people on TH-cam are. Typing their little hearts out and usually can’t afford half the shit they mad at. You got the “it’s too expensive” crowd, then you got the “it’s not a two door, and it doesn’t look like an Integra” crowd. Nobody cares about either. 😂😂😂 Enjoy your ride even if it is public transportation🥴. Let people enjoy the money they work for and spend it how they please…simple.
Got a fully loaded bus pass hating from outside the club 😆😆😆
@@QueTheChaotic “you can’t eeemm get iinnnn” 😭😭😭😭😭
@@HKN_RealReviews 😆😆😆😆😆
Cause it’s slow, FWD, and not worth 70k with dealer upcharge… when u can get an S5, m340i for less there is a problem
The Integra is much lighter and faster on track. Are they still marking these up?
Had a buddy who just got an MDX and saw one in the showroom, they were asking 75 for it. We had a good laugh
@@TrooperJT that’s insane. It shouldn’t be more than 50k
Agreed. I just wish they put the amazing SH-AWD on it. Especially for that price point
id rather have the integra over the civic, same engine, better tune, more luxurious and same price after markups 😂
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Nailed it
I have the 2024 fl5 sonic gray and absolutely love the thing. I just recently got it next to a tyger eye Teggy which I wanted originally and was so underwhelmed it actually made me ten times happier with my purchase. I think another reason the type R is special is cause all the body panels except the front doors are unique to the type R and not from regular civic. Can’t say the same for the type s and regular Teggy. Not to mention that numbered badge on the type R 👌 it’s the little details that count.
It'll be worth much more later on
Ok...good you are happy with your R how many miles you got it?
There are more than 3 extra things over the CTR.
The most notable ones are:
-Rain Sensing wipers
-Longer Warranty
-Wider Powerband
-Performance Oriented Exhaust
-Leather Interior
-HUD
-Radar Sensors in the bumpers
-Sound Deadening
-Aggressive body kit
-Premium Sound System
-Powered Driver Seat with plenty of adjustments
-Heated Front Seats
Thanks for adding this
Nice--only faux leather interior however.
Not many out there are using real leather anyway 🤷♂@@lionary
people just hate on it because its expensive and these guys can't afford it....
Some people, sure, but not all people. Me for one, can afford Aspec 1.5L MT and the Type S, but I want about a half a dozen Acura standards (Iconic drive, rear climate control, etc.) that do not come on the Integra
I really wanted a CTR but refuse to pay markups or have dealer add ons. I found a ITS at MSRP with no add ons so I bought it. Great car!
Those markups pushed me to Acura twice.
@@QueTheChaotic it’s sad these greedy dealers do this.
Exact same story here. 🖐
Been a minute man happy to see your happy. Integra Type S Is An Amazing platform and the ppl tht hate on it are hopping ona trend. People scared to be different nowadays plus the hate is real admiration.
Thank you
Love the type s bro. My favorite daily.
Same
Spot on about the harsh ride of the Civics. I've had 3 gens of Preludes, a Civic SI 8th gen & Civic SI 9th gen and now the Integra A-Spec 6-spd man white/red and the ride is NICE. I got the A-Spec over the Type-S bc of price plus it has the memory seat, power passenger seat, and moon roof. The 1.5 liter engine has just the right power, and I get 35mpg mixed driving. I added 25mm wheel spacers and it looks even better. 👍
Those spacers really set it off. I miss my A spec sometimes
I own a type R and my friend has a type S I like them both the same and the civics damping is livable I'm cool with it
If you’re a true car enthusiast, you don’t hate on any enthusiast driven car. Type S and Type R are virtually the same car. They’re both amazing. And you said it right, Que, to completely dismiss a car because it’s FWD is close minded. There’s room to appreciate all drivetrains. They each have their own nuances that make them fun to drive. The haters are just close minded and uneducated.
You said it perfectly
Que, all us ITS owners feel that pain with you. It’s crazy how the car community is so full of hate. It’s one thing being respectful and disagreeing with opinions but the full on hate makes me wanna not be active in the car community. I don’t understand how the ITS being just a civic is a bad thing either. Civics are great! The ITS is basically just a Type R touring, of course it’s gonna cost more. Haters are gonna hate. Only thing that matters is how you feel about your car
Seems to me the most likely sentiments that could cause such hate are jealousy and the feeling one might get when, for example, he has been the only one to have a unique and desirable thing in his neighborhood for a long time, and then one day one of his neighbors gets a very similar one, and so the former might lose some of that feeling of pride that he had being the sole owner of that unique item. Jealously and wounded pride.
You hit the nail on the head. The Civic is very good even in base form. I like the Sport a lot
My gripe is, the Type R killed it with the wife body, but the Type S wide body looks really stuck on, even more than the GRC. Still, it's an incredibly nice looking sport back sedan/hatch and I'd own one in a minute!
It's not about hate in any way for me. I'll start by saying the car is okay and the performance is good, while the interior is nice. I'm not a fan of the styling, it's way too expensive, it's only FWD, and that front emblem is huge and ugly as all get out. And to clarify it's not that it's FWD, it's because of the price they want for it being FWD. It should be AWD for the money they are asking and it will then be able to get the power down. I also feel the same way about the Civic Type R, too much money for a FWD with a crazy red interior and no heated seats and no heated steering wheel. On top of that I saw $10k-$15k ADM on the CTR and ITS so for $55k to $70k the cars aren't worth it in any way possible. The cars would be nice if the prices were less for what they are giving the buyer. I don't care about fluff, I want substance. But then, you already know that! 🤣🤣🤣
I was hoping for AWD. They have the TLX in AWD but its 4200 pounds.
@@QueTheChaotic That's a pig for sure. I already think the ITS and CTR are too big.
Que venting like crazy!! lol! My G87 M2 gets more hate, but it did spank the new Darkhorse so I have some consolation!!
The M2 did get a lot of hate at launch. I can't lie, I want one.
@QueTheChaotic love em and type s
I’m mad as hell cause they didn’t offer it with a 10speed.😂😂😂
Great video brother, it's just like I said in a couple of my videos they are both great cars so I don't get anyone hating on either of them, or any manual gearbox cars being offered today in all honesty. I personally prefer the Type R but I am also glad that the Type S exists too, even EV cars that I'm not a fan of at all I have no problem with them existing, they just won't be for me.
Well said! If I were a betting man I would've bet it all that you would prefer the Type S more.
It only gets hate from people who are hateful and/or super biased. ITS is a great car man. I love mine. There are a lot of things it’s not but there are lots of other options.
Agreed
This car is dope. F the haters
Just got the white/red and love it so far. In metro Detroit, so might see you out there!
Congrats! We’re a rare sight
I own one, I get everything is expensive now a days, Type R IMO is properly priced now, but the Type S is too expensive (I even paid MSRP with zero add-ons) for what you get amenity wise. But mechanically speaking, nothing else "NEW" at that price point checked all the boxes for me. I don't like the screaming red interior of the Type R, and prefer the overall look of the Type S. That said at this price point, I expect it at least have a few "luxury features" which some the AType Tech has.
Memory Seats (AType Tech has this)
Tilting mirror when going into reverse (AType Tech has this)
At least add some USB charging ports for the rear (AType Tech has this)
Built-in GPS (my android auto sometimes disconnects at random times and other times i'll need it in an area with no cellular signal and forget to download offline maps) [Only the Honda Civic variant gets this]
Homelink Mirror [Honda Civic variant gets this] - at least it's an easy swap into the ITS
Fine, i don't care that it's missing 360 camera, but geez they could have added a high-resolution back up camera
They really skimped on the luxury for the price. I want ventilated seats too
Well, I just got my Type S in the Tiger Eye last week.. so far!! I’m loving it! And yes the price is overpriced!! But that’s what I agreed to pay for!! It’s expensive! I have always wanted an Integra.. so I can say that I am Grateful to GOD to have been able to purchase it!!! Thanks, this is my two cents of LOVING IT! Memphis, Tennessee!
Congrats! That color is sharp
Most enthusiast are mad because it looks nothing like the dc2 Intergra Type R’s from the 90s and early 2000’s. Their also mad that the Civic in general is huge now with no VTEC. At first, I said the same thing. But in 2024, im just thankful to have Honda and Acura (same company) still make new manuals in a world thats growing with Electric cars and ppl who don’t even care about driving. I remember being a Tech at Acura and being bummed out that i missed the golden era of being able to watch new manual transmission cars come out. And i was so hyped that they bought them back. Honda is a brand that listens and caters towards its enthusiasts customers and i respect that.
Very well said.
I think the new prelude will be an Integra coupe
I think Acura absolutley killed it with the new 4 door sport-back design 👌🏻 Coming from an old school Integra and RSX owner that was hoping it would be a coupe. Look at it this way.. If it wasn't a dope whip, they wouldn't be hatin 🤣
I like the way you think. I need to drive one of the older Integras
@@QueTheChaotic In the past I've owned a forest green GSR coupe w beige leather and a red w black leather.. Then a blue RSX-S w black leather let go of in 2019.. They had an amazing feel and brought a lot of driver enjoyment everytime vtec cracked 👍🏻 I'm kicking myself now for not holding onto at least one of them
Do you also own a 24 Mustang GT 5.0? I am legit between these two cars! I know they are very different cars. I plan on keeping either one for atleast 20 years. Summer car only. Leaving more towards the its. But that's only because I've heard of all the issues with the Mustang, quality issues, infotainment system isn't as good, issues with the manual transmission, cheaper fit and finish ect. But i love the look and sound of the 5.0 GT
That’s a tough one. The ITS is well sorted and doesn’t have many issues. For a summer only car it’s hard not to choose the Mustang. Hopefully a SS update can fix any infotainment issues.
I really dig the Teggy type S. Got to drive one last summer and enjoyed it. I stayed in the market for one up until earlier this month because I was also looking for a great deal on type R.
They are both very similar obviously and I for one love em both but I did finally choose on the CTR over the ITS.
You get better exhaust and rear LED turn signals on the Acura. The Honda you get better seats and racing/s2000 like odometer with shift lights. It really could’ve went either way for me personally but I’m very happy with my purchase. Keep enjoying your Teggy bruh. They both are great cars.
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It seems to me that the more compliant ride of the ITS is the main difference. And looks of course. As far as the seats go, for a car that will be a daily driver for the large majority of the time, I prefer the adjustability of the power seat and my back prefers the lumbar support.
To quote the well-spoken words of Car and Driver:
VERDICT: The Integra Type S delivers all the thrills and driver satisfaction of its rowdy Civic Type R sibling in a more dignified, feature-laden package that can speak softly when asked.
@@lionary Both vehicles have some features that are missing from each other so it’s all about personal(subjective) taste. Another big reason I chose the type R is because it’s going to have the better resale value of the two down the road. When you look at FK8 models, it’s crazy how much those cars are still going for despite being several years old. It’s a legendary badge in short supply but Honda also did a great job on the ITS.
@@BStudd1182 I agree with that. My gut feeling is that the ITS will not retain its value as well as the CTR in the short run.
A lot of people don't understand what this car was built for which is slightly more luxurious and performance. Yea the price sucks we all can agree on that but how many people over paid for the type r a lot im sure. People complain about it not it being AWD. Why would you want more weight when the purpose of this is awesome light weight performance. FWD LSD is just fine for this car. People complain about it not having a sun roof who cares. A sun roof isn't performance related it's the opposite because it adds weight not much but enough to deem it unnecessary and takes away from the head space in the car and could potentially leak eventually but I could go on and on but I will say I think they could of slipped in memory seats for the driver but definitely not a deal breaker this car was built for the driver not the passengers but they were nice enough to allow passengers to experience the performance. I will take the type s over the type r anyday looks way better than the FL5 which is ugly to me the FK8 looks way better. I'll be buying the type s next week. I already got over the expensive price.
Early congrats! You're spot on with the light weight performance
A lot of people cannot own a Type R because they would look silly driving it (Boy Racer). So Acura built the same thing for grown ups.
This !!!
Morning Que,
Another great video Bro.. I’m not seeing the hate for the ITS on the West Coast. Most people including me were disappointed about the initial mark ups on the ITS. But the moment I drove the car I was hooked and the ITS has been worth every penny!! Keep up the good work!👏🏾👊🏾💯
Thanks a lot. Will do. Glad the west side can appreciate it
I've actually had several people try to hit me and run me off the road. It's awful. People are jealous of this car because it is so beautiful and I cannot stand how people drive because they do not pay attention. Thank God they made this car. I'm gonna love it as long as I could have it for
Sorry to hear that
@@QueTheChaotic people suck
Tbh, i havent heard any hate for the car. Not a single youtuber who has any significance to automotive journalism out there has put the ITS down as a whole. There things to dislike here and there. But nothing to HATE on the car.
The type S & type R are both beautiful cars imo I’d be happy with either 💪🏼
Absolutely
The car enthusiast community can be toxic sometimes. I'd bet that most of the outspoken critics of the DE5 (and FL5 for matter) have never driven one. It's a pricey car, but I still haven't found a cheaper brand new car that is more well rounded as a daily friendly performance car. Elantra N is the better value, but the Integra is the better car.
💯 The next best all arounder would be the CT4 blackwing. It’s more expensive yet smaller. Great comparison video you did on the Type S, SS 1LE and the CT4 BW
@@QueTheChaotic agreed! CT4-V BW is great. It feels a lot heavier than the Integra though. The choice depends on whether you favor light weight with sharp inputs, or RWD dynamics with more power.
@@QueTheChaotic that was a great video indeed!
@@Zygrene wow, a cameo appearance by THE ITS man no less. Been avidly following your ITS content. 🙂
nobody hates the car. its just not worth 52k. they'll sell for under msrp in under a year, just wait and see.
I had being saying that wait and see since the release of the FK8. It never went down, all the contrary.
Mad cuz can’t have. Simple
No hate, but a little constructive criticism for your videos, I would like it if you actually drove the car while talking about it, maybe a pov drive or something. The last several videos is just you talking and it doesn’t really keep the average viewers attention imo. That’s all.
I welcome the constructive criticism. I had planned on doing that for this video but I just didn't feel it. I can do a POV next discussion. Thanks
For the price it is missing so much: iconic drive color changing ambient lighting, rear climate control, power front passenger seat, acoustic glass, premium leather seats, auto folding mirrors and available SH-AWD. The heart of the issue is this, unlike other Acuras, the Integra is NOT an Acura, it's an overpriced Honda.
I don’t think the type s gets hate….i kno it’s too damn big
Have you run into the problem with the coolant overflow reservoir rupturing? I've seen in ITS forums where many owners have had this problem starting as early as 800 miles.
I haven't had that issue
Good to hear! How many miles on your car?
@@satomelon68 just past 5000 miles. I need to schedule its first service.
Have you had a chance to drive the CT4V Blackwing? if so how would you compare the 2?
I have a review on it. It’s been a couple years since I’ve driven one though
That’s a long drive but you gotta bring the ITS! Plan out the road trip
Aww man lol
I HATE the tacked on Fender Flares but I love the Engineering. My Resolve is to get one in Black and put some White Silver 5-Spoke wheels on it.
People hate the car because just came out right after any of the cars that people were owned and much more better n expensive so they want to trade in to in this car but the fact was people can’t own 2 cars at the same time. The reason they hate this car because the type r came out first n the type S came out after. Why? People hate the type S because who ever owned the type r they do love their type r so much n they don’t want any better than type r but unfortunately the type S was better that’s why they hated the type S so much brother so just be honest n happy because you owned one and I love your type S better always ❤
I appreciate you. I agree people wanna protect the legacy of the Type R
Agree with that line of thinking.
I’d like it if it was a 2 door like the old Integra. But on that econo 4 door look is not as nice as your old Camaro.
I got kids to haul around.
I just traded in my 2020 Camaro SS, I'm now in a 2023 WRX GT and so far I love it, I think your next car should be the WRX TR.. It may be you..
Aww man RCF would love this. I'll see if Subaru can send me one for a week at least
@@QueTheChaotic Just wish mine had the brembo's 😐
@@VictimofCeres those were a good upgrade for Subaru to add
FL5 Civic Type R...Built in Japan. DE5 Integra Type S...built in Ohio. That's all you need to know.
Panel gaps on the ITS is piss poor compared to the CTR. Shows you the craftsmanship and dedication to accuracy that the Japanese have over the American factories. Its a known fact.
The FL5 just feels more SPECIAL, inside and out. The seats are 1000x better and more supportive. GO to any Cars & Coffee and park these cars side-by-side. The FL5 will get more attention. And I guarantee you in 10, 20, 30 yrs from now, the FL5 will be more sought after than the DE5. When this generation of Integra first came out, I'll be honest, it was underwhelming. It looked nothing like the Integras I grew up liking in the 90s. It just looked like any other cookie cutter sedan Acura has in its lineup. Nothing special about it. So when they announced the Type S, it didn't peak my interest at all. But to each, their own.
What I will say about the ITS is that for what it is, a highly capable FWD super sedan...its wonderful. I can't think of any FWD sedan thats better handling and provides the sporty nature than the ITS, hands down. The flared fenders and wider stance definitely help in its appearance. It gives it more of a presence than the normal Integras for sure. At that price though...there are some other more compelling sedans that I'd consider. But if you want Honda reliability, a fairly limited run car, and solid performance, the DE5 gets the job done. Be proud of your car, my guy! Big up's for defending what you believe in! 😁
I just don't think its going to age as well as the FL5 will in the future.
I agree with mostly all of what you said. It’s just the special feeling to me which is subjective. What makes it feel more special? Being manufactured in Japan adds to it but I haven’t noticed a difference in build quality. I’ll get some seat time in one next month. I appreciate your input.
Built Quality is the same on both. Just go to the communities of both cars and you will see the same complaints.
@@Marbind we both get this drone/rattle at the B pillar on the driver side. Also passenger A Pilar. Ohio has a high standard of quality (compared to other OEMs)
People think that Honda Corp will let Acura do things on their own way.
Everyone must follow the same build protocols.
People blast the Integra for being built in USA but forget that the heart in their car is built here too. That is the ironic thing.
@@QueTheChaotic
@@Marbind I'm on the forums and FB groups. Although I do see complaints for both on rattles, can't say the same for panel gaps. Not quite as terrible as Tesla, but the inconsistent panel gaps on the DE5 are inexcusable. Their QC needs to better.
Wonder explanation my g. Honestly might look into that or an sti
red interior
Uh...because it should be a $35,000 car?
The Elantra N got you
@@QueTheChaotic exactly. 😂
it is too expensive. just sayin.
much love dude. It is a very cool car.
I love comment like this. Go to your local Honda dealer and check how much they want for the CTR. Chances are that it will be more than 52K.
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The Integra Type S is a wonderful machine. Try owning a G80 M3…the hate is real. BTW…bang bang niner gang! 😉
😆😆😆😡😡😡 that was a tough loss
ILX type s
Integra Legend Type S
it's not a great looking car, but also not a bad looking car. Same goes for the FL5
i just wish the seats were a little more sporty and the gauges haha
I've seen a few people do some nice drives with the ITS, and its won the Road And track PCOTY under $100k too. cant wait to upgrade from a spec to type S haha
I don't hate it. I just don't do 4 door cars.
It's a Michigan vs Michigan State thing. The hate is real. 😂
😆😆😆 facts
RCF
1st to like too!
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@@QueTheChaotic Thank you good sir 🔵🔵🔴🔴🏆🏁
I like the 4 door cars nowadays. Before, I loved coupes, not sedans, but access to the rear seats is so much easier via a door. Especially with my GR Corolla. The rear doors are small but come in handy. Cars are expensive and with the new UAW contract ain’t going to make cars cheaper in the future. Glad I bought a new car now instead of in a few years. Bidenomics & "good union jobs" = inflation.
I feel you
No hate here!
Brother this real and talk real remember the Subaru wrx came out first and the Sti came out after look the wrx never ever replaced or compared to the sti ever n never replaced the Sti name. The Sti always better so you pretend in to this 2 cars, for example type r came out first n type s out after so mean type s is better car because they retune and fix all the things that type r was missing. Love both cars but type s can do more things. Remember you are not track your car than you daily so be happy you were make the right decision on your type s ❤
Yessir!
Nice vid 👌
Thanks!
Do you actually like the sound system on it? I found the Bose on Hyundai and even JBL on Toyota much better- specially the stock equalizers.
I really do like the ELS. Bose in Hyundai is good in the Kona I drove. I don't like JBL in Toyota at all
Who’s hating on the ITS? Lol
I am kind of; see my comment from yesterday.
They lurk in the comments
@@QueTheChaotic we do indeed
7:13 I found a penny.
LOL! Hawk eye. No telling how long I've been sitting on that
@@QueTheChaotic 🤣🤣🤣
True ion see integras at alllllll
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