Tesla Model 3 SR+ MIC 1000 km challenge
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"Åh, I just came!"🤣🤣🤣
That acceleration noise is addictive. Hard to pick up in the video but I knew what you meant as I have same car in my garage, only white on white. I've had my M3SRP for just over a month now and still can't quite believe I own such an incredible machine it is so futuristic, capable, fun and above all, clean. I love that you are so enthusiastic about the car, 'I just came' just about sums it up. Now I just need to save for a Tesla Bot to wash the car.
Put on a good ceramic coating. You can clean the insects with a wet rag in seconds! I coated glass leather and paint. Very easy cleaning now.
Yup, the LR only really makes sense if you have a round trip you often make that you can comfortably not charge for in the LR where you would have to in the SR+. Otherwise the SR+ works fine if your country has enough charging infrastructure.
I picked up my SR+ in June, much thanks to your recommendation. I couldn't be happier with it. One of the possible downsides for me was the non-premium sound system in the SR versus the LR/performance. The stock audio is still pretty good, but I ended up installing the Hansshow wiring harness to activate 4 of the inactive speakers - it sounds even better now!
And I agree with the comments here, I can only see LR being beneficial if you often go on very long roadtrips or if you don't have access to chargers (northern Norway maybe). Saving those 100k NOK for 150km shorter range and 1.2 second slower 0-100 is easily worth it IMO :-)
Thanks Björn for all these testings 👍
1:17 The infotainment is snappy, but it's still limited by the data connection on downloading map data? Maybe Tesla should add the option (like on phones) to go to your settings and select offline maps.
From the icon in the upper right corner... maybe was connected to the Circle K's wi-fi.
It’s worth checking the plate on the charger. Some chargers are 300kw at 800v and a lower speed at lower voltages.
many say that the SR3 model is a cheap model, of "poor" .. I really like that in this clip you showed the exact opposite ... even if it has a small range, 320-330km real, it is enough for a trip and even in the city. You do a wonderful job, keep it up
I have a 2021 Model 3 SR+ MIF, and I agree with your conclusion, Bjorn. I’ve only had the car for four months, but have taken it on two longish road trips: 1) with my wife and two teenage sons for a 1,100 miles, and 2) a solo trip of 1,200 miles (both are round trip figures).
The SR+ was over $9,000USD less than the LR, and I certainly don’t feel I was “shorted” in driving long distances. Each leg of my trips was 500+ miles, and that meant 3 or 4 charging stops, approximately 20 min each stop. Not a hardship or inconvenience at all, as those stops were welcomed every couple of hours. Long enough to use the bathroom, get a bite/drink, stretch legs a bit, and then back on the road. For every 7 to 8 hours of trip time, an hour or so of charging.
I’m sure the LR is useful, but we are very satisfied with the M3 SR+ as a family (or solo) road trip car. And we can use the $9,000 USD to pay for many such trips. It is a Road Warrior!
3:00 That is a beautiful sound! I just love EV sound :-)
love that acceleration sound, my 4 y old son as well 😂 always asks me to push on that "fun-pedal" again!
Hi Bjorn, Thanks for these videos, they are so very informative and interesting. I have only recently started to watch and subscribed to your channel - I have learned a lot. We have just ordered a Model 3 Long Range - I live in Australia. The model 3's here are China made cars. Surprisingly the road types and conditions you have in Norway look very similar to what we have in Oz. But fortunately, we don't have the very cold weather you experience - we have the other extreme very hot long summers! Regards, Paul.
@KongWaiKei Does the rebate depend on when you ordered the car or when you actually get the car?
@KongWaiKei No I didn’t is a custom order. Delivery after 1 September.
@@SirHackaL0t. I think for the exemption to apply it would be registration in NSW on or after 1 September. And EV has to be under $78,000 price limit.
@@paulmcfawn So @KongWaiKai is incorrect in his assumption. :)
Thanks Bjorn, you're a legend!!!
Great video bjorn lots of great information about model 3 sr+
Love that acceleration sound as well ! does all tesla's has it
Yey! I’m loving that Rock ‘n’ Roll music at 15:45! 👍👍👍😄
car reviewer: "aahhhh I just came"
3:25
Edit: added timestamp
Hahaha!
That made me laugh
Great vid Bjørn!
Nice guitar sound at Minute 16:00, and very good Model 3 stuff.
Agree but it is not in Bjørn's Artlist playlist - I really wonder what music it is?
Hmmmm it's a shame it isn't all on V3 to see the absolute best time possible, still love the 1000km challenge. Any ideas on LFP best charging practise?
3:26 ooooooh
I just came
I agree with the sentiment about when to buy the SR+ over the LR --- for Norway, with its well developed Supercharger/DCFC networks. For countries less well endowed the LR has a lot more value.
Boom! Another awesome test.
I love the Tesla challanges
Please test the long range 75kw LG MIc Version, Björn!! Thank you!!
"ooooooh i just came" x'D!
DUUUUUDE! You crack me up! You're so funny.
I just ordered the new Tesla M3 LFP with 491km range WLTP.
Your videos made it easy to choose the Tesla.
Cheers from your neighbour Sweden!
/Martin
Nice to hear a nerd-gasm Bjørn 😀 long time since you last came in a car 😃
Hi Bjorn, love your video's and it took away my last fear for stepping away from fossel and getting to an EV which will most likely be a M3 SR+. I was wondering, is it possible to use ABRP as an app for navigation in the M3 rather than the legacy google nav which is already in the M3 OS?
I read that SR+ will get a 60 kwh battery, will be interesting how well that will do
i ordered a MiC SR+ on 29th of July and i'll get it on 30th of August. It still is the 55kWh E6CR (E = Model 3, 6C = 55kWh LFP Battery, R = Rearwheeldrive). The new version with 60kWh would be E6LR. It is already allowed (Typengenehmigung V19 which was made for Model Y) in germany but there's no info about when and if it will come. I guess it could also happen, that Tesla keeps the Model 3 with 55kWh and puts the 60kWh only in the Y to make it better compete in range. The Model 3 SR+ MiC with 60kWh would have 491km WLTP range (leaked with the V19 documents of Model Y).
I heared of those rumors, too. The latest SR M3 LFP MIC already kicks ass really bad. With even 5 kwh more itll be an unbelievable great car for the bucks! I like this shit 👍 60kwh LFP 4tw OMG Ill wet my pants
@@Hitman006xp Were can i check my car's VIN Number if i didnt got the car yet ?
@@buzzettern2516 I ve had an email from tesla with VIN number one week before delivery
@@buzzettern2516 you get the vin with the invoice.
23:46 What kind of sun roof do you have installed? This looks really Good. Thanks in advance.
Is there more motor sound from the SR+? The one motor is working harder so could make sense
I got to drive a model Y dual motor LR last weekend. Its a brilliant car. I have driven a few other evs, like the VW and hyundai, but honestly Yesla has warped my sense of reality. I still need to drive a few others like the machE and ionic5/ev6. But next is model3 sr on the list.
4:53 I wonder when we will get option for preheating to third party chargers.
You can trick it navigating to Supercharger, but driving somewhere else, if they are close enough, but then you can often just choose the Supercharger anyway.
Wow. Summer in Norway. 9PM and it's like daytime.
Then you should see end June and early July from Trondheim and further up north.... Don't wait up for the dark to go to sleep....
Thanks for another great video very interesting too see the difference! Going to pick up a sr+ today and want to use scan my Tesla on my iPhone do I need anything more than the dongle obdlink mx+ and the app ? And were is the obd2 port in the model 3 thanks
You will need to install an OBD adapter. It fits between 2 plugs behind the panel below the rear air vents. Bjorn did an installation video for the OBD adapter. Not that long ago.
yea sounds great!
Your tests convinced me to choose the Model 3 SR+ over the LR, except - maybe - for the sound system.
The old LR range isn’t too much more than this new SR car. The new LR of course increases the range again. :)
AWD is important for me. Winther time. I plan on haveing my new car for five years, so I think it Will LR 🤔🙂
@ Belgium here, we didn't have meaningful winters for several years now and I don't think they will come back anytime soon. Also I don't drive much and the level of performance of the SR+ is more than enough.
@@adewouters Yes and no mountains either.. so SR+ is absolutly the best choise for you. Norwegian Winther roads is difficult ..
@ I have the LR and love it.
I think larger capacity battery packs are an advantage on medium range trips of about 150 km each way meaning no charging required compared with a smaller capacity battery pack where there would be some charging involved. Long trips obviously all down to charging speed.
A larger pack means you can go further before needing that first charge. It allows trips to go further without the need to charge at all as the range is better.
That and the fact that most countries do not have the charger density to make ideal charging stops always possible (0-50/60%),
Like the music starting at 15:40 - but cannot find it in your Artlist playlist. What is it?
I think the 2019 model 3 Sr+ might be the fastest sr+ now a days since they updated it to 170 kW. When I charge at a v3 I get about 170 kW all to 15 percent. And decreases slower.
Never mind vidi and vici, you did your fair share of veni though!
great value!
Does anyone know if it is possible to force the battery preheat? For example if you are going to a non Tesla charger? And maybe an aprox time to engage the preheat function before charge?
I'd love if in Germany on the Autobahn the grass would also be cut at night and not in the beginning rush hour at short to 8, I am getting a little bit jealous
as many other i dont know if SR+ is enough for my needs or maybe put the extra money for a LR. I know there is more benefits than range if i decide to pick LR, but i feel like SR+ is already a bit over my budget lol. I live in Sweden and my next job career will be Oslo so will probably buy the car over there :)
You don't find test like this anywhere, thanks.
What's the music at 3:32 ? I couldn't find it in your playlist. Thanks!
What range can we expect in winter with LFP battery?
Hope to see Your test of this car in winter conditions this year!
these batteries seem to perform better at lower temp. biggest advantage is the rate of charge when the battery is almost full !
Video upvoted when he said "I just came"
"Ooohh, I just came.." 😆 Bjøøøørn
😂😂 i just cameeeee… u made me and my wife laugh well, thks
The max Ampere is to low for the low voltage of the lfp battery. On v3 I get the 165 every time.
We are at NEIN-NEIN-NEIN-NEIN! 😂👍 Bra video!😃👍
You might have gotten less power at the Hypercharger because they sometimes have cables limited to only 400A instead of 500A. According to HYC display you got ~148kW which at 400A result in 370V at the battery which is plausible for the LFP.
The charger can still provide 300kW for 800V cars (400A*800V=320kW) but Ionity states 350kW therefore they must have 500A cables.
Would you mind doing a video on that kind of nerd stuff sometimes?
Tesla of course ignores standards and does ~700A at the V3 SuC.
@@mresch3950 tesla have liquid cooled cable
@@MrNikitir I know. Hypercharger 400A/500A cables and all Ionity charger cables are liquid cooled as well.
But the CCS 2 standard allows a max current of 500A and since Tesla does not need to follow this standard, they can run higher currents.
Just made a trip from Riga (Latvia) to Arzl im Pitztal (Austria).. 2000km+. with 3 people, lagage and roof box with skis. Interesting, but not quite plesant experience. Frankly, main issue is a luck of high power charging stations in eastern Europe. Either you have to consider the route through SuperCharger/Ionity only.. and thus always charge from less than 20% to 100% to reach next charing point.. and this is crazy time consuming. Or you need to consider lower power stations, which also quite problematic as they usually not right on the route and it may add up to 15-20 km just to drive to a station somewhere aside. Another issure - there can be stations belonging to different suppliers and this is another headache - you have to have all they fu..ng Apps in the phone with account establised and credit card linked. No one of them have card terminal right on the station. Once I crossed Germany border all changed quite significant. Highpower chargers are almost everywhere, and even in case this is not Supercharger or Ionity chain, you may simply pay by card using payPass/ApplePay/GooglePay (e.g Aral stations). Just for the referrence - out of 1100 KM from a hotel in Lodz, 340 km to Poland border took about 7 hours.. and this is total crap. Further, from Polant border to Arzl I have made ~760Km in about 9.5 hours..with ~2 hours of charging time (6 stops). Average speed was 95km/h (max was about 130+) and average consumption - 240W/km.
Sorry if I missed it - is this the „old“ engine (A) or the new Hairpin one (J) ? Regarding the sound … my SR+ will arrive with the A engine in about two weeks
Will be the old one ... I'll get my new MiC SR+ on 30th this month and it still has the 3D1 motor.
Anyone else checking out gas prices in Norway through Björn's vids? 😅
Have you done any tests to see how the RWD SR+ performs on snow and ice compared to the AWD LR? Some RWD cars (notably BMW) are terrible on snow or ice. Does SR+ have a snow mode?
My SR+ is great in snow (with winter tyres). The reason ICE cars have a problem is weight distribution. Light at the back compared to the front where engine is. SR+ has great traction. There is "slip mode" that's supposed to benefit some extreme situations but I've always found it drives best in normal mode in snow.
I saw the Model Y for the first time yesterday. I looks great!
We have a Model 3, if we ever need more room in the car the Model Y looks like a great alternative :-)
warst du in tesla store in zürich?
@@yanickbandi3378 No, in Denmark our 3 locations all have the Model Y at display 😊
@@Arpedk cool! I was at the zurich store yesterday`! cheers to denmark
@@yanickbandi3378 seems like Tesla really wanted us all to see the Model Y 😎
When should you navigate to a supercharger to get optimal battery temperature for charging? 10 min before? 20? 30?
How long it takes to warm up depends on the outside and battery temperature
I was driving -10C this winter, and my Model Y SR started preheating as soon as I hit the road. It was around 75-minute trip and when I arrived to the V3 supercharger, I was able to get 170kw peak speed. Indicating that the battery was warmed enough. Preheating is important feature, but my efficiency suffered greatly as car consistently spent 3kw for preheating. Overall, it spent 3-4kwh (7-8%) of the battery just for preheating in that cold winter day.
However, normally it preheats couple of minutes in spring or summer day. So it is not a huge deal. This is one of the many reasons that Tesla is the king in the EV space
Thank you for all responses. Cant wait till I can pick up my new M3.
Put the Supercharger in nav as soon as you can. The car will then decide when it is best to start preconditioning.
Would you please also check the MIC long range Model 3 with LFP battery? Apparently they are available immediately in Europe. At least in Germany I am sure. With 580km range.
LR doesn't have LFP batteries, there wouldnt be the space for it
@@pwnie404 They do. The new currently available LR models 3s in tesla website in Germany have all LFP batteries. I asked them and they said it.
@@paeiz79 ??! I really thought that only the sr got the flp..
@@paeiz79 i don't know who told you that but it is 100% wrong. The 580km is an LG battery with NMC and not LFP. There are people who have already received their papers for those cars and it's also noted in those papers.
LR are either Panasonic NMA or LG NMC batteries, no LFP.
@@pwnie404 the online sales person in Germany. I will check again.
I always push pedal to the metal to hear that satisfying sound. Something mesmerising is in there. Do other cars sound similar?
Cool. Faster than the Ioniq 5 with 800V system...
I would rather be slower and drive the ioniq
Different conditions, but yes: very impressive performance for the base level Model 3.
@@theseb1979 yes, the ioniq is a really great car. I thinking to buy it next to my Model 3 LR...
@@wolfgangpreier9160 you just forgot the most important thing the size difference... ioniq 5 is closer to model Y so don't compare it to M3
@@wolfgangpreier9160 And a key parameter: Efficiency. M3👍, Ioniq 5 👎
You should do the trip in an gas care to have as benchmark
Already did:
th-cam.com/video/HdENrYlaez0/w-d-xo.html
Holy s**** you just answered a million dollar question with your comprehensive tests and data collection
Was thinking that LR would be the pick for the model 3, but for 99% of use cases SR + is already good enough (courtesy of the Supercharger network off course)
Great work you're doing here, I will now subscribe!
It’s definitely enough here in Canada!
Interesting to see those consumption numbers compared side by side...
Just one question though...are the numbers for the Tesla taken from the onboard electronics or from the Chargers? I have heard that Tesla likes to "cheat" and only displays the pure driving KWh instead of the actual consumption with climate, battery heating and so on.
That's incorrect. The consumption in Tesla is in fact including HVAC, lights, USB and everything. But many people try to spread false rumurs about this. And unfortunately many fall for it simply because Tesla is way more efficient than the legacy automakers.
@@bjornnyland
Thanks for clarifying. IIRC the ADAC rated the consumption of the Model 3 pretty much the same as the ID.3 while most TH-cam comparisons seems to favour the Tesla.
@@rolandrohde
Not sure but I guess that ADAC is going to be paid for an advantageous result in favor of VW.
Ich bin nicht sicher doch ich kann mir vorstellen, dass der ADAC sich dafür bezahlen lässt, um das Test-Ergebnis zu Gunsten von VW ausfallen zu lassen.
@@sashapilz6653
Possible I guess, but I don't think it is likely. The ADAC has more to lose than it stands to gain in this scenario. But I guess we will never know for sure.
This is a very strange result. When you plan a route in ABRP with the LFP Model and the nonLFP the LFP Model has like a third longer charging stops for my calculations. Now you just demonstrated that the LFP Model(aka MIC(I thought the internet already agreed on LFP Model 3)) in non ideal environment is faster than the nonLFP model in ideal ones. So now I am quite confused.
I wonder if there is anyone who can explain the reason for the difference in the charging power of the 2 Supercharge stalls when there are no other cars that are charging (13:54). Reduced power for a stall should not be an issue under these ideal conditions. Can this behavior explain why many people experience changing charging power when using Superchargers? It is basically assumed that it is the battery temperature that is the cause - and it may not be the case at all.
Hi Bjorn. Just a quick question for you and viewers.
I have a Model 3 that when driven in the dark (no street lighting) even on a three lane motorway It keeps giving messages left/right pillar camera and multiple cameras blocked or blinded. So AutoPilot disengages or won't engage. Customer service and technicians won't look at the car because they say it is normal behaviour. Well is it? Or do I have the only Model 3 that can't see in the dark?
If the cameras don't have infrared sensors then that behaviour could be expected as the system can't recognize anything in total darkness.
Only the front and back cameras will see something because of the headlights and the lights in the back.
That is randomly happening on most model 3 at the moment. It is normal but not right. Hopefully it will get fixed in a software update. My MIC SR+ does it about once a week but mostly when bright headlights shine directly at the camera from the side. I just try and keep glass in front of camera super clean.
@@mattbrent8732 Yep. I get the same message when the sun is at a low angle such at late afternoon, and it is hitting the car on the side (90 degrees to direction of travel basically).
This is at night with no street lighting. No ambient light and definately no Sun light.
@@dangleebitz4305 ok. I’m out of ideas then might be more serious or the issue is that there isn’t enough light.
21:15 NaNaNaNein!
It's just that LR has the better sound system. All the speakers connected, subwoofer and amp.
3:55 which song is it? Cant find it in your artlist nor Shazam.
Did you happen to find it? Still no clue.
Evgeny Bardyuzha - Radio Wave
@@m00O0 Thank You! Its not on YT from what i can see.
I just came… haaaaa… u made me and my wife laugh well… thks
Has the matrix functionality been unlocked for the headlights?
no
The new headlamps made by hella is equipped by HD 100 matrix module, maybe Tesla will unlock the matrix functionality in some of next updates...Then the magic will happen.
Hi Bjørn. Will you also test the Long Range MIC? Im very curious about that one!
Does that one have LFP?
@@ElmarBon No. It has the LG-battery. Om curious about the difference beteende LG MIC and Panasonic USA
@@ElmarBon yes, MiC SR+ has LFP. It's about 55 kWh
@@tobiasnilwert1960 LG battery has a much slower charging curve vs Panasonic battery in US. You'll loose about 10 minutes. Tesla sells LG batteries in LG with 2k discount in Europe, for the 77kWh vs 82.
@@ChristophLeitl Yes, I know but I still want to see a test with the LR (LG) MIC.
Great video thanks. Would be great to see how real world traffic affects it's range/consumption/amount of charging stops contrary going into the night without traffic
But then every test would be a bit different (much more than it already is) and harder to compare. Doesn't make much sense to me.
300 kW is for 800V system, 150 kW for 400V. there is a limit in amps that you can use with that cable, 350/400A. Supercharger V3 is 550A at 400V, too much amps and waste of energy.
Maybe there will be a solution to reuse that energy wasted in heat.
?? what do you mean wasted energy? The car draws as much current as needed.
is not cabin heater, but supercharger cooled cable. Is waste energy from Joule Law. For cool down the cable you need extra power.
The 800V system is better and efficient at high power and can sustain more power for longer time. And it is lighter.
Fun fact: on this trip Kris Rifa is laying in the trunk, tied up and gagged.
Ahhhhhhh! Finally after 10 hours in the trunk, Bjørn let me out! 😬😬😬 Nice with some daylight and fresh air, but either way that's a good time posted by the SR+!
You should do a Oslo-Bergen-Oslo challenge, more realistic
Way too time consuming. And not relevant for 90 % of the Europeans. For Oslo - Bergen - Oslo, watch Artic Circle trip.
Model 3 LR with 82 kWh battery is a beast, will we have the possibility (like in Q2 /2021) to get one from Tesla in EU? Or we will have only LG batteries in the LR only?! Coming from China?!
My guess is that any SR version is CATL LiFePO4 and any LR version is the new LG Chem NCMA (since July 2021), until Europe (next year) will get a completely new battery from Berlin giga.
At the moment all of them (MiC LR) are LG, but we don't know yet.
@@ChristophLeitl sadly it means less charging speed which is more time consuming on long roadtrips (at v3 superchargers)
From 5-80 % about 8 minutes difference or more :-(
@@ModPhreak Giga Berlin won’t deliver any Model 3, it will be the main port only for Model Y
@@KekszNET you are right. But I still got the LG LR because with leasing it's a 50€ difference and 2) LG doesn't have Coldgate in Winter and 3) of course LR is AWD, better sound system, better range.
I charge at home and will rarely use SC. If I do, I don't care about 8 minutes.
Model 3 LR is only 35 min faster than model 3 sr+ with a huge $10k price difference, sheeeeyt!!!!!
Yes but this is ideal for places that have lots of chargers everywhere, otherwise the difference is greater.
@@boostav Watch tesla toms video, sydney to melbourne only 31min difference.
Which country is this ?
Norway
I don't hear the Tesla whine in our Model Y, wonder if it's better insulated. Wish I could. Maybe it's my ears, I'm 69 years old.
From what I understand it's only on the sr+ MIC version with lfp. A theory was that they boosted the motor in some way to compensate for the extta weight of LFP. You would have to be close to deaf not to hear it
Hm, I'm getting 170KW on my 2 year old SR+ in Germany.
For how long, how many minutes?
On V3 superchargers is the maximum you can get
@@ChristophLeitl not above 20% mostle below 10 - 16/17+ i just sold my Q1 SR+ MiA with Panasonic 55kWh battery and ordered a MiC SR+ with 55kWh LFP. It maybe has a lower peak (but i think i already saw LFPs with 170 too) but it holds the high rate much longer. a LFP SR can load with 120kw at 50% (starting low and warm). A MiA SR+ has maybe 75-80kw at 50%.
Peak doesn't really matter, it's the curve that does.
3:08
Is it really a mistake by the user? I would say a tesla is far from perfect.
Adding 100 kW more in a 800V system is called what, when 140 kW are fast?
🤣🤣🤣🤣ooohhh I just came!!!!
Tesla LG battery low charging
sounds like a jet engine when you accelerate
Or S-Bahn (Red colored passenger commuter tram in Germany)
Nice name you got. 🤩
22:07 to save you about 22 min :)
Fun fact: SR stands for Super Range
First one :)
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