A few years ago I bought a pair of 38mm SuperTeam wheels off of Amazon. I had been waiting and watching and was able to buy these for $275. 10,000 miles later they're still in really great shape, still extremely true, and I'm very happy with them. You can't buy a decent pair of aluminum wheels for that price. I will gladly buy another pair of these wheels when the time comes and use the old wheels on my trainer bike. There is absolutely no reason to spend thousands of dollars on wheels, or for that matter, on any branded bike part. Do your research, find a company that provides great customer service and save yourself a ton of money.
Absolutely lovely to hear, I completely agree that Superteams are pretty much the cost of a mid-tier aluminum wheelset. When you look at it that way, really really hard to fault for the value that it offers appreciate the insights
I treated myself back in December, and bought the 50MM through EBay same seller Princesses 123, have over 600 miles on them and they roll Beautiful with my Vittoria Corsa Control. No complaints , I took them to my local bike shop to make sure the wheels are trued . After the inspection they were straight as an arrow. Love them ! What made me purchased them, I have a cycling buddy who purchased the Super Wheels 5 years ago and had no issues , he also weighed 250 lbs, so I decided to give it a try. For $340 later I’m a happy camper !
I build bikes during COVID. So far, I have purchased SIX sets of SuperTeam wheels - road bike, gravel bike and mountain bike. I have had wheels from SuperTeam that are rim brake and disc brake. I would agree that the basalt braking strip has its weaknesses. With disc brakes, despite the extra weight, these wheels are superb.
Fantastic to hear, and on the basalt rim track it's certainly not perfect but not any worse than other brand offerings. Personally, I'm a rim brake believer for road riding - skinny tires, lightweight, tarmac, the power of discs aren't essential but I definitely understand the benefits there
@@vittoriochiu8181 Agreed - the basalt strip is the Achilles heel for all wheel brands that I've seen. I don't put disc brakes on road bikes, but not really because of weight. I use mostly old Cannondale frames that were restored. There's no clean method to attach disc brakes to these bikes, which were designed for rim brakes. (You can use an adapter, but I've tried many different adapters and found all of them to be sketchy).
@@larrygross1248 Totally, it's simply a flaw in the rim-brake design itself but then again, if you're not descending mountains every weekend and/or you're not considered a heavy rider, I've rarely seen a failure on the rim track myself - glad to see you're using old frames, always better to upcycle than new (in my opinion)
@@vittoriochiu8181 These old Cannondale frames are awesome. With a good painting and some clearcoat, they're good as new - all with frames that are 25 to 35 years old. Throw on a carbon fork and handlebars with some Super Team wheels, and you're looking at an 18-lb road bike (8.2 kg) that rides better than when Cannondale made it.
@@larrygross1248 Absolutely impressive, hope you keep up that hobby luckily (or unluckily) bike tech certainly hasn't evolved much on a fundamental level
That's lovely to hear, put another 400km on the wheels including mountain descents since the review, good as new (but the weather has been admittedly nice)
Vittorio, great review! I purchased a set for myself and for my wife. At 20 m.p.h. and above there is a noticeable difference in holding speed. Below that I can't tell much difference at all. Your review highlighted the pros and cons very well! So, if cruising around at 20 m.p.h. and above is "your thing" these wheels work. If getting to that speed is a stretch upgrade to a good set of aluminum wheels to save weight on the climbs.
I have this wheelset and agree with this review. The wheels themselves are high quality, and I have had zero problems with them. The main caveat which isn't the fault of the wheel, is the carbon/basalt brake rim which is standard for most carbon wheels - you will notice a significantly longer braking distance compared to an alloy brake rim, even with Swissstop pads. I have these as an alternate wheelset to my $6500+ superbike TT and it's super fast and so good-looking that I actually get compliments from other riders quite regularly (nice wheels!) - I doubt they know these are only $380! I'm still shocked as to how good these wheels are. Note they DO make an alloy-brake model (recommended if you ride mostly mountains) so you can get that if you want to avoid the carbon brake issue altogether.
Really glad to hear you have the same impressions, really great wheelset - no different from any other name brand but also shares the inherent faults of a carbon rim brake wheel. Thanks for sharing your experience!! Might consider switching to softer pads down the line
I purchased the rim brake model with basalt braking surface. The braking surfaces lasted about 600 km and were toast after that. Since they were all but worthless at that point, I cut them in half to check the QC of the rim. The carbon layup looked neat, clean and consistent. When I purchased a disc brake frame I did not hesitate to buy another set for the new bike. I would never again buy these wheels for a caliper brake setup but highly recommend them for disc setup. And yes, I did use carbon specific brake pads on the first set. YMMV
Appreciate the feedback k9, my rim brake model has been going strong as an update on my end - still using the stock brake pads which are a really hard compound. Still going strong and I've checked the surface, looks about new. However, I think rider weight makes a big difference, I'm probably on the 'underweight' side so that may be potentially why they're not toasted yet. Happy to hear disc brakes are going strong, congrats on the purchase and happy riding :)
@@vittoriochiu8181 got my first service last week after putting 3,961 miles (~6,375 kilometers) on them (recorded on Strava) rear hub began to stick but that’s on me. I washed them with a pressure washer and washed out all the grease. I still haven’t needed them trued and the mechanic said my braking surface was still basically new. They only needed to be re greased and cleaned inside and the original bearings are still good as well. I did not expect them to be this good. I have had 3 flats at speed (30kph+) from riding on rough roads as well (pothole flats).
@@mattm9689 Love that, I had the same issue with the rear hub as in the video and that was from pressure washing too - lightweight road stuff + pressure wash is just a nogo hadnwash from now on... great to hear though I totally agree well beyond expectations cheers to more kms!!
Great review, i have a pair of 50mm profile Superteam wheelset, & have been riding it for almost 5000KM, so far the wheels are still functioning well, worth the investment with the price point.
Very interesting. I had that exact same problem with the hub. I thought it might've been because I got too aggressive with the water hose. But after packing it with wheel bearing grease, it hasn't bothered me. Only bought a 25mm wide, 50mm deep rear to replace a busted wheel. It now has about 2K miles on it. No problems. And I'm heavy rider.
That's reassuring to hear that I'm not the only one with the issue - it's quite brash on the sound and exactly, I think it's because the seal with water isn't good at all it happens when it comes in contact with water, will be gentle from now on. Congrats on the new wheel hope it continues going strong :)
I have 2 sets of carbon wheels, one of these is a Superteam, 88mm front and back on my fixed gear (used as a road bike on flats), bought one and a half years ago. I have no problems so far, still stiff, aligned, and fast. Deep wheels are not the best choice for lightweight riders in windy conditions, the instability can be partially solved with the front tire being narrower than the wheel. That's why the wider/ toroidal wheels are better, my other wheelset is 28mm wide with 25mm tires. In my Superteam front wheel (25mm wide) I use a 23mm tire. About the brake experience, the original carbon brake pads are terrible, I bought a Shimano one, but you can buy it from any other big company, and it's a big inexpensive upgrade. Ride safe bro!
2.5 years of use and they are a great buy. I recommend using Swiss Stop Black Prince brake pads. They last pretty long, brake much better than what came with the wheels and most importantly, they brake much cooler.
Agreed, can really benefit from a set of aftermarket brake pads - for my preference I'd prefer a bit of a harder pad as they don't melt away as quickly, but can't go wrong with swissstop overall.
Well done informative review. And I love the honesty in carbon wheels not being the first choice in upgrades. For me personally, cockpit tailoring go a long way in improving performance because fit & comfort are the most important thing on a bike.
@@vittoriochiu8181 couldn't agree more. Excellent review, I'm getting my superteam wheelset today from Malaysia :) this review helped me a lot to make the decession.
@@nanthakumarpalaniappan8869 Amazing to hear, thanks Nantha - extremely excited for you and happy riding!! Also, glad to say the wheels have been running strong no issues as of yesterday :)
I feel this review didn't really need to mention points that are true to any rim brake deep profile carbon wheel and I wish you could compare stiffness with similar wheels on more expensive brands. Other than that, I liked the review. You speak clear and your ideas are also neatly expressed. Cheers! Keep up the good work
Thanks Jaime, I agree with this wholeheartedly but I don't have too many expensive wheels at my disposal. Got a pair of Zipp 404 Firecrests so maybe a good point of reference later on thanks for the support :)
I'm going to be honest, the orange "they made a mistake" wheels looked awesome,and I kinda wish I could get some like that. I'm looking at the 70mm three-spoke wheel set.
Haha I'm sure you can ask them to do you a favour and get those full coloured decals made - completely agree with you those were sick, but for my personal build I preferred lowkey - let me know how the 3 spokes go if you go for them, they look mad
@@vittoriochiu8181 I'm 100% certain that a review will be done on my own channel, when I get them. There's at least two videos in every set of wheels. The "first look" video, and at least a long term review after 500 miles or km.
Good choice in music with the 'downside'. I was like shits getting serious. My favourite line "I can crash 4 of these, to break even on a pair of zipp wheels.". you get it HAHA
haha thanks man, still holds true today! I've got a pair of Zipps but if I'm being honest, difference is marginal if any, you get a 'zipp-ier' carbon finish & a subjectively fancier looking wheelset
My main reason for seeking a set of 45-55mm deep carbon wheels IS EXACTLY that carbon 'whoosh-roar' that they make when rolling along in a big gear. It is a self-motivating stimulus to keep improving, and riding even faster yet (sort of like the scrubbing sound that the old Clement Criterium Super Seta Extra green label tubular tires made against the road when one jumped, or started a sprint). YES, I will admit that I like the 'look' as well, but that 'sound' is just a must have for me. The problem is that there are basically NO narrow internal, or external width carbon wheels in existence anymore, which are all that will work with my ancient Reynolds Ouzo fork, '01 vintage Campy Record 10 calipers, or '01 vintage Merlin Road frame's narrow chainstay clearance at the bottom bracket (let alone ones with an alloy braking surface like the Mavic Cosmic Carbones which I HATE myself for selling many years ago!). :( :(
Appreciate the break down. I just purchased a set from ebay and the general consensus seems to be that these wheels are great value. Hoping I have a pleasant experience as well. Got yourself a new sub.
Love it, would be great to hear your experiences a few months down the line - I'm sure you'll have a pleasant time with them but if not I have pretty high confidence in their warranty thanks for watching!
I've a pair of Tubular Dura Ace C50 (10 sp) Rim brakes. No problem with braking. But I believe I will look for a pair these for my backup bike I'm building. Aluminum with carbon fork. I was going to use a set of Mavic Comsic Carbone SL wheels. But the spokes are hard to find. I need to replace some...but...I think I will and buy some of these "Take it as you will" lol. Nice video man. You convinced me.
Nice, the Dura Aces are definitely nice ones to have. For practicality I'd say Superteam definitely better than the Cosmic Carbones I've seen those on the market before, they seem expensive to service. For a secondary bike, Superteams are a solid choice - put on a set a decent brake pads and you're ready to run :). Thanks for watching!
@@vittoriochiu8181 I changed my mind. I will use these Superteam Wheelsset for my daily bike and use the Easton Circuit aluminum wheels on my backup bike. I will save the DA C50 for race. The case they are tubular makes it difficult when I run flat. I have to call someone to come and pick me up, while having clincher I will be able to change the inner tube and keep on riding.
I have the exact same rims as you. I bought in 2018. I have never had a problem with them. They are still true, the hubs have never been serviced. I must of put 20-30,000 miles on them so far. I think they are a great set of rim for the price.
Hi! There are several videos on how to take apart and lube the cassette body. Its not hard and you can do it once you get the hang of it in about 10 minutes. I prefer to use Mobil 1 5w30 or 0w20 motor oil. It lasts a long time.
Hey John, appreciate the heads up - genius that most auto parts are plug and play with bicycles as well I'll definitely look into it. Mainly just worried with the off chance that I do mess it up, the stores are reasonable with the servicing from what I've seen so far :)
@@vittoriochiu8181 It's not that hard. With a couple of Allen keys (two 5mm in the case of a Powerway or Novatec hub) a chain whip , a cassette removal tool and some degreaser a little patience and you will be on your way. After all , I can do it! If I can do it anyone can. Just pay attention to where any spacers or washers are when you take the cassette body off and you are golden. I use a long skinny zip tie to keep the pawls in when I put the cassette body back on. I don't actually close the zip tie because you won't be able to get it off. You can use anything very long and skinny like a small piece of plastic or a wire . when you get the pawls started back in the hub you pull the wire or zip tie out and the body will fall into place. Once you take it apart you will see what I mean. Bike shops aren't always open when you need them.
@@johnhorgash9031 completely agree with you on the bike shops, some are booking for two months in but luckily they're always willing to make exceptions for small jobs - will definitely look into this soon :)
Great looking wheels. I’ve been researching on the same topic, and something I want to share that’s not mentioned by many online reviewers - at the top of the food chain, where quality and tight metrics are part of the production process, there will be a yield, for the best wheels. And for the rejected (yield loss), generally they can be binned to different categories, like total scrap, grade A, B, C, etc. in order to save overall production cost, the lower grade products are sold to lower tier resellers/markets. Another factor is reused of older tooling (molds), from previous generations of design, etc. once amortized, they can continue to make wheels at lower cost. This is unlikely to be coming from the top wheel makers, because they improve their design and keep producing new wheels with new tooling. Other factories may procure older tools to make wheels at lower cost.
Very plausible, thanks for sharing those insights - great to know that non-AAA yields are still repurposed for us to enjoy (and of course at different price points as well)
What a great video! I'm glad that there is someone who's reviewing Superteam. My experience has been great. I think I was corresponding with Candy too. I bought a pair of 3 spokes from them for my TT/triathlon bike. Since I got a Ron rear disc I've been using only for the front. It's been very pleasant experience with it. I used Campagnolo red brake pads and stop very well even in the rain. I am talking about an inbuilt TT which tends to be quite useless normally. The handling is way better than my almost 10 year old Fulcrum 80 mm deep rims. It's quite stable even with side wind. How aerodynamic is it? It really depends on how fast we ride, but I have been to a couple of Ironman 70.3 world championships in recent years for my age group. I'd say if you cruse at around 40 km/h or slightly faster, I'd highly recommend it. Due to it's stability my average speed goes up because I can keep my aero position way longer. I have shown the wheels in my channel, but haven't done a specific review video, but maybe I should do one...
Appreciate the kind words! Totally agree it's a bit of a hidden gem in the market, some things appear too cheap to be considered good yet - on this occasion I'd say the initial risk was more than worth it. Glad to hear the Tri Wheels perform on par as well, thanks for sharing!
so for break pads I use reynolds cryo blue pads, they are amazing and last longer or swis pads yellow carbon . I've never had a problem with all 3 sets 2 sets of 50s & 1 set of 60s.. I recently bought a 4th pair 40/80 mix that I sold with my pinarello gan s. that was an amazing wheelset too.. you need to ride these alot to get use to the wind tossing u around a bit , it gives u better handling skills . I've been cycling for 24 years. & I love carbon wheels.. Superteam wheelset is awesome.
Do they make wheels for disk breaks ? Love the look! You picked a great colour 😍 I have a Shimano 105 11 speed with disk breaks on a Felts FR 30… what would fit ?
yes they do! And I believe they're the same price as well - on Amazon/eBay if you type in Superteam Disc wheelset you'll see many options and in your order, ask for the 11-speed freehub which should be standard. Thanks for the compliment, love how they turned out! :)
I was looking at a used bike that came with some, but ultimately decided against it. It seems like form you experience that they’d most likely work well for me; I’m a similar weight to you. However, I was was able to get a set of used Zipp alloy wheels for about the same price. They’re a similar weight to the Superteam 50mm, but they’re 30mm. Zipp claims though that they’re able to mimic the aero profile of larger rims. Who knows what I’d be better off with, but I like the peace of mind of having alloy and having a legit Zipp logo on my rims.
I completely don't blame you, genuine Zipps are a fantastic option as well - honestly, as non-pro riders who cares ride what you want it's gonna make a night and day difference between the two... If you ever want a brand new option Superteams are just a safe bet, but in the used market everything opens up. Congrats on your wheels have fun!
I’m wondering how a set of 25mm wide Conti GP500’s will fit on 25mm wide rims. My frame & fork can go up to 28mm wide tires, but it’s a close fit. Which is why I went back down to 25mm tires
I hate to say it as it will probably invalidate the 2 year warranty. But these wheels are cheap enough for me to factor in some replacement bearings for the hubs before Ive even had them on the bike providing they take regular cartridge bearings. replace whatever cheap bearings they use from the factory with double sealed Enduro or any SKF, NTN, Koyo bearings. as for the GCN stuff. I take their results with a big grain of salt because wind tunnels dont reflect real world usage where wind can be coming at you from any and every direction and not just head on. If it survives past the 2 year warranty period, you've got a decent foundation for a rebuild.... Sapim CX-XRay spokes and a better hub of your choosing Bitex/DT Swiss - whatever you want.
Excellent to hear, those are definitely power numbers way beyond me!! Always wanted to try the Elites as well since they're UCI legal, glad to hear they work on your end
If you are not a racer and just ride for exercise or with friends, these are must. No need to spend thousands. I went to a cycling store and i bought some carbon fiber shifters, they werent a known brand. And I told a the old guy, are these good. Then he asked me, do you race, are you in a team? I said no, so he said, then they are, there is no need for expenisive stuff, just ride godammit 😂
LOL yup you said it, u really need nothing but I mean we all like having fun with new bike parts - get yourself a carbon wheelset for 500 or under, still all the fun of a 2,000+ wheelset. All the fun, not the wallet lightening, what's not to love
I only wish the major brands would take notice of how many people are actually buying these lower priced wheelsets and how many sales they are missing out on because of their greed. I custom built my carbon wheels and I couldn't find one carbon rim for under $400 each here in the US. I would bet that the company I bought my rims from (Boyd) didn't pay more than $30 for the rim that was obviously sourced from China or Taiwan. I would have purchased my rims from China if I could have found the ones I wanted but they were sold out at the time.
Completely agree with this, but at the same time I understand branding isn't cheap, R&D beyond a base mold isn't cheap, sponsoring riders isn't cheap so in a way, it does add up so I think there's a clientele for $, $$ and $$$. Some people are more than willing to pay a lot more for a little gain, and I think that's completely fair for those products to serve that market as well appreciate your thoughts on that
@@vittoriochiu8181 You said the right thing there "pay a lot more for little gain". There would be no noticeable difference between the base mold and a more customized layup. The aero benefits come from the size and shape of the rim. When it comes to quality of the hubs that's really debatable because I have used a lot of different hubs in my years and a lot of the hubs people claim to be the best are not really IMO. At any rate it is nice to see this offering at such a good price, thanks for bringing it to our attention.
@@wasupwitdat1mofiki94 not a worry for at all, it's a great debate to have and I agree with you it truly is a minor advantage in terms of carbon wheels ~depth/weight/hubs all around the same whether cheap or $$$$ - road cycling has a lot of clout surrounding it (me included) so... we drink the marketing more often than not hahaha :)
I just purchased some superteam front tri-spoke/rear disc wheelset and I am truly second-guessing my purchase for my safety sake. Can anyone who has had these wheels tell me if they are safe or if you have had a terrible mishap with them I really need to know.
Still undecided on whether to go Superteam or lightweight aluminium wheelset on my CAAD 10, any comments on comfort levels? I hear carbon fibre wheels better deal with the buzz of the road
That's a good question - I would say riding both aluminium wheels and carbon ones, whether Superteam or comparable, are more comfortable for sure it provides dampening qualities just like a carbon frame vs aluminium frame. Can't go wrong with either, but for my money I'd pick carbon especially if you want a deeper wheelset (30mm+), a deep section aluminium wheel is no good as they're incredibly heavy
I had exactly the same noise what I see in the video after two weeks with I was 3 times trying to correct the noise exactly the same thing you show in the video
Really great review..and viewpoint. One question regarding rim width.. the 23 and 25 mm is internal or external? My stock rims are 22.5 external and internal must be like around 19, have to remove the tire to measure. You stated external but wondering if this was a goof ? Seems 25mm internal would be too wide on the outside and would be very tight clearance on my road bike fork.. I would go for 25mm external for sure. Please clarify :- ) Thanks ! (edit : found my answer in the ebay listing. diagram of rim profile. It's external. Thanks for links ! )
Glad you found the answer! I would've chosen the 25mm as well but stuck with the 23s since it was the default option. All the best with the order and have fun :)
@@vittoriochiu8181 thanks! I may in the future decide to try 28mm tire, mainly in the rear so I wanted the 25 rim for better compatibility. I'll run my 25mm tires for now as they are nearly new. I am hoping to have a good experience like you did with these.. rolling the dice but they look decent ! Fingers crossed.
@@g.fortin3228 Fingers crossed for you as well! I'm also running 25c on all my bikes, but putting skinnier tires on a wider rim bumps up the actual width of the tire beyond 25mm so for my use cases, I think it suffices over a 28mm unless you're doing harsh surfaces routinely
Just FYI: I have found Super Team to be very helpful in providing the correct wheelsets to me, meaning, I have been able to specify rim width, rim depth, braking (centerlock, six-hole disc, or rim brakes), and tubeless ready or not. Figure out what you need for your frame, and start a conversation with them (Queen Bike, who sells Super Team).
@@vittoriochiu8181 did you ever clarify what the actual internal width is? obviously you misspoke when you said they are 23 or 25mm internal width. thanks
Glad to hear you got a pair! The waiting process could be a little longer since they're shipping & built from China from what I know (not sponsored btw). Wheelset's doing great, no issues since the video and still riding - I've actually been using the stock brake pads that came with the wheels although I heard Reynolds Cryo Blues are a good option there's also other recommendations in the comment section :) happy riding!
SUPERTEAM Carbon Wheel Disc Braking 45C-25 Clincher … what do you think of this ones? $279 from Amazon. I am pairing it with my new Ridley Fenix slic 105 disc
I'm sure they are just as good or equal in performance as they're disc brakes - little less worry about braking performance as it doesn't come from the rime itself (nice bike by the way)
I wouldn't recommend these for gravel, since they're quite narrow internally you'd want to stick on road anything beyond a 28mm tire would not fit well
Hey Brendan, wheels holding good at the moment still riding on them weekly - only pain point is the rear hub requires a service every so often if you wash your bike / ride in rain the lubricant runs out. Otherwise, I'd say worthwhile upgrade noticeably better than bone stock alu wheels
@@vittoriochiu8181 thx for the reply. That's solid feedback. I have ksyrium sl superlight aluminum wheels at the moment. They are lighter than stock wheels. Really not sure if its worth the upgrade 🤔. Would upgrade it for sure if my wheels were stock
@@brendanli3533 would be an upgrade on the flats, would guess even on the climbs - I've felt a significant enough difference on flats riding at 25km/h and above typically, anything slower the difference is marginal imo
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I actually have a pair of Zipp 404s which I recently purchased with the SwissStop Black Prince Flash Pro exactly like yours, they stop better but I do see a lot of wear already. For the Superteams I stuck to the default pads which are hard surfaced, they work well enough although not the best I might consider changing to softer ones in the future
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@@simonchun6780 No worries at all, I'm certain if you contact the seller beforehand you can get the spacers in the package but yes I have both the 9 and 10 in mine
After 300 miles the rear wheel makes noise all the time I'm on the bike I do not understand it all the time makes noise I got a message to the company we will see what they will do it's wrong
I had issues with the skewers. They would come loose very easily. I had to get aftermarket skewers. Also, no brand recognition. Cyclist are quite brand conscious folk and you can feel a little self-conscious when everyone else has zipps, enve wheels etc
oh really that sucks, but good to know I personally still have no issues with the skewers they're basic but functional. I agree, but the lack of brand recognition is the primary reason that it's 1/5th a zipp. 5 superteams or one zipp? I'd go with the former personally and this is coming from someone with one of each
I believe they have, taken them in extremely wet scenarios and no issues there - however, rear hub is not sealed great, can get water that strips out the lubricant so would be wary about spraying with pressure wash/shower
I'm sure they would fit (assuming your frame allows) but it won't be great since the wheel itself is relatively narrow - you'll get a tire bulging with the bead which might cause more punctures/a smaller contact patch on the tire. I would recommend probably 30mm max on these for the best performance
@@vittoriochiu8181 I had no idea they could even do something like that. I've heard of people getting custom decals but have never seen a colored finish on carbon. I already own 3 pairs of Superteam wheels, maybe if I purchase another set down the road they can hook it up. It's cool you posted a picture of what they sent you though, it highlights the ability to personalize your bike in another way. : )
@@motogp9253 that's amazing, they are quite bulletproof wheels to date, you should definitely send her a message to see what custom creation u can fulfill :-) definitely share if you do end up going that route
Yeah for sure, the ones used were already carbon specific but they were a harder compound - if I do switch to a softer compound I will update the performance here
@@vittoriochiu8181 Do they offer an upgrade option for the DT Swiss hubs, as some of the other China manufactured carbon wheel brands do?? Also, is there a Campy 10 speed freehub option?
There is a rider limit as with all carbon wheels, but it's in the vicinity of... over 200 lbs - for the most part everyone can ride carbon but heavier riders do see to have more issues with maintenance/failures :)
Yes, 130 pounds is correct - I don't suspect you'll have issues at 200 pounds, but I would recommend looking at reviews from riders with similar weights first
Barely if any lighter,lose braking power,not necessarily any faster,squirrly in wind,hubs not sealed well,................but they get a job done?................it sounds like even at 400.00 your not getting much except looks.
Totally get that, the main advantage compared to a nice set of aluminums is really the looks, but I can say the hubs have been rock solid 'til now - pretty confident to say that barely of the carbon wheels will give you a significant boost in km/h as most wind tunnel/real world tests show... whether you find a 1-2 kmh worth the expense that's up to you but as a carbon wheelset for ~$400, I still stand by the fact that it's good value IF you want carbons
You are correct, in my shop I have seen the quality of Super team wheels and I would not waste my own money on them. You can get a DT Swiss wheel in aluminium for that price with DT Swiss quality hubs and they are lighter, stronger, safer and stop better. From my experience looking at the misfortunes of customers I would say never buy any carbon wheels for less than 1k. "Buy cheap buy twice" as my dad always used to say.
Aerodynamics are factual. If you are a rider that has no problem going +40kph any deep section wheel will make a big difference in speed. About the weight. If you compare the weight with high quality brand, theses wheels weight is not bad at all, not the lightest but descent. Aluminum deep section wheels, with the amount of material needed, would weight a ton so there IS a weight advantage if you compare.
I’d want to know where in China these were being produced and if slave labor (eg Uighurs) were being used in their manufacture before buying anything badged Superteam.
Totally fair point, I took a look at their address: No.35 Siming Yuan,East zone of 1st floor、2nd floor Industrial Area,Tong'an Dist.,Xiamen,Fujian,China Hard to say exactly/who's working on the wheelsets but from what I know their reputation is strong enough I'd trust that skilled labour is needed to create these products
cheap (and not light), that's why I personally wouldn't want them. but if someone bought a pair and made them work for themselves long term, more power to 'em.
Completely agree, however I'd be lying if they're anymore heavier than the competition - give or take from a name brand it's probably 100g difference been using them multiple times a week on all conditions still running fine
Can't handle - or wont tolerate questions about the manufacture of these products and the CCP I guess, huh Vittorio? Do you ever wonder why they're so "cheap"? Just look the other way....
Absolutely not, I apologize if you interpreted my answer wrongly - I personally don't know about the working conditions or processes to get their cost of goods low. That's something that's related to the company's practices, and I have no issues admitting that the reasoning for their pricing could or could not be potentially unethical
A few years ago I bought a pair of 38mm SuperTeam wheels off of Amazon. I had been waiting and watching and was able to buy these for $275. 10,000 miles later they're still in really great shape, still extremely true, and I'm very happy with them. You can't buy a decent pair of aluminum wheels for that price. I will gladly buy another pair of these wheels when the time comes and use the old wheels on my trainer bike. There is absolutely no reason to spend thousands of dollars on wheels, or for that matter, on any branded bike part. Do your research, find a company that provides great customer service and save yourself a ton of money.
Absolutely lovely to hear, I completely agree that Superteams are pretty much the cost of a mid-tier aluminum wheelset. When you look at it that way, really really hard to fault for the value that it offers appreciate the insights
Thanks for sharing!
I treated myself back in December, and bought the 50MM through EBay same seller Princesses 123, have over 600 miles on them and they roll Beautiful with my Vittoria Corsa Control. No complaints , I took them to my local bike shop to make sure the wheels are trued . After the inspection they were straight as an arrow. Love them ! What made me purchased them, I have a cycling buddy who purchased the Super Wheels 5 years ago and had no issues , he also weighed 250 lbs, so I decided to give it a try. For $340 later I’m a happy camper !
Awesome to hear Sergio, and glad to hear you had a good experience with the same seller :-)
I build bikes during COVID. So far, I have purchased SIX sets of SuperTeam wheels - road bike, gravel bike and mountain bike. I have had wheels from SuperTeam that are rim brake and disc brake. I would agree that the basalt braking strip has its weaknesses. With disc brakes, despite the extra weight, these wheels are superb.
Fantastic to hear, and on the basalt rim track it's certainly not perfect but not any worse than other brand offerings. Personally, I'm a rim brake believer for road riding - skinny tires, lightweight, tarmac, the power of discs aren't essential but I definitely understand the benefits there
@@vittoriochiu8181 Agreed - the basalt strip is the Achilles heel for all wheel brands that I've seen. I don't put disc brakes on road bikes, but not really because of weight. I use mostly old Cannondale frames that were restored. There's no clean method to attach disc brakes to these bikes, which were designed for rim brakes. (You can use an adapter, but I've tried many different adapters and found all of them to be sketchy).
@@larrygross1248 Totally, it's simply a flaw in the rim-brake design itself but then again, if you're not descending mountains every weekend and/or you're not considered a heavy rider, I've rarely seen a failure on the rim track myself - glad to see you're using old frames, always better to upcycle than new (in my opinion)
@@vittoriochiu8181 These old Cannondale frames are awesome. With a good painting and some clearcoat, they're good as new - all with frames that are 25 to 35 years old. Throw on a carbon fork and handlebars with some Super Team wheels, and you're looking at an 18-lb road bike (8.2 kg) that rides better than when Cannondale made it.
@@larrygross1248 Absolutely impressive, hope you keep up that hobby luckily (or unluckily) bike tech certainly hasn't evolved much on a fundamental level
Great review. No shilling and just straight up info. Keep it up, man. And more bike vids.
Thank you very much, I'll try to keep it vanilla for the time being - more to come on biking for sure something's in the works at the moment!
Got two sets of super team for well over a year now still rolling strong with no issues
That's lovely to hear, put another 400km on the wheels including mountain descents since the review, good as new (but the weather has been admittedly nice)
Vittorio, great review! I purchased a set for myself and for my wife. At 20 m.p.h. and above there is a noticeable difference in holding speed. Below that I can't tell much difference at all. Your review highlighted the pros and cons very well! So, if cruising around at 20 m.p.h. and above is "your thing" these wheels work. If getting to that speed is a stretch upgrade to a good set of aluminum wheels to save weight on the climbs.
I have this wheelset and agree with this review. The wheels themselves are high quality, and I have had zero problems with them. The main caveat which isn't the fault of the wheel, is the carbon/basalt brake rim which is standard for most carbon wheels - you will notice a significantly longer braking distance compared to an alloy brake rim, even with Swissstop pads. I have these as an alternate wheelset to my $6500+ superbike TT and it's super fast and so good-looking that I actually get compliments from other riders quite regularly (nice wheels!) - I doubt they know these are only $380! I'm still shocked as to how good these wheels are. Note they DO make an alloy-brake model (recommended if you ride mostly mountains) so you can get that if you want to avoid the carbon brake issue altogether.
Really glad to hear you have the same impressions, really great wheelset - no different from any other name brand but also shares the inherent faults of a carbon rim brake wheel. Thanks for sharing your experience!! Might consider switching to softer pads down the line
I purchased the rim brake model with basalt braking surface. The braking surfaces lasted about 600 km and were toast after that. Since they were all but worthless at that point, I cut them in half to check the QC of the rim. The carbon layup looked neat, clean and consistent. When I purchased a disc brake frame I did not hesitate to buy another set for the new bike. I would never again buy these wheels for a caliper brake setup but highly recommend them for disc setup. And yes, I did use carbon specific brake pads on the first set. YMMV
Appreciate the feedback k9, my rim brake model has been going strong as an update on my end - still using the stock brake pads which are a really hard compound. Still going strong and I've checked the surface, looks about new. However, I think rider weight makes a big difference, I'm probably on the 'underweight' side so that may be potentially why they're not toasted yet. Happy to hear disc brakes are going strong, congrats on the purchase and happy riding :)
Superteam are 1 of the best priced carbon wheels and great all round wheels.. I have 3 sets ..highly recommend them.. LOVE EM... 🙌🙌🙌💯💯💯💞💞💞💞
Glad to hear you're having a great time with them!! Truly a bet worth taking :)
I just ordered a pair of 60/88’s for my time trial bike. Can’t wait to test them out.
That's fantastic to hear, would love to hear how you get along with them - never rode a time trial bike but I can imagine it's a lot of fun :)
@@vittoriochiu8181 got my first service last week after putting 3,961 miles (~6,375 kilometers) on them (recorded on Strava) rear hub began to stick but that’s on me. I washed them with a pressure washer and washed out all the grease. I still haven’t needed them trued and the mechanic said my braking surface was still basically new. They only needed to be re greased and cleaned inside and the original bearings are still good as well. I did not expect them to be this good. I have had 3 flats at speed (30kph+) from riding on rough roads as well (pothole flats).
@@mattm9689 Love that, I had the same issue with the rear hub as in the video and that was from pressure washing too - lightweight road stuff + pressure wash is just a nogo hadnwash from now on... great to hear though I totally agree well beyond expectations cheers to more kms!!
Great review, i have a pair of 50mm profile Superteam wheelset, & have been riding it for almost 5000KM, so far the wheels are still functioning well, worth the investment with the price point.
absolutely agree, it's not the best in the world but for the price extremely fair for what it is :)
Very interesting. I had that exact same problem with the hub. I thought it might've been because I got too aggressive with the water hose. But after packing it with wheel bearing grease, it hasn't bothered me.
Only bought a 25mm wide, 50mm deep rear to replace a busted wheel. It now has about 2K miles on it. No problems. And I'm heavy rider.
That's reassuring to hear that I'm not the only one with the issue - it's quite brash on the sound and exactly, I think it's because the seal with water isn't good at all it happens when it comes in contact with water, will be gentle from now on.
Congrats on the new wheel hope it continues going strong :)
I have 2 sets of carbon wheels, one of these is a Superteam, 88mm front and back on my fixed gear (used as a road bike on flats), bought one and a half years ago. I have no problems so far, still stiff, aligned, and fast. Deep wheels are not the best choice for lightweight riders in windy conditions, the instability can be partially solved with the front tire being narrower than the wheel. That's why the wider/ toroidal wheels are better, my other wheelset is 28mm wide with 25mm tires. In my Superteam front wheel (25mm wide) I use a 23mm tire. About the brake experience, the original carbon brake pads are terrible, I bought a Shimano one, but you can buy it from any other big company, and it's a big inexpensive upgrade. Ride safe bro!
That's an awesome setup, deeps + fixed gear love to hear it. The simple physics of light rider + deep anything is challenging, but we'll make do!
2.5 years of use and they are a great buy. I recommend using Swiss Stop Black Prince brake pads. They last pretty long, brake much better than what came with the wheels and most importantly, they brake much cooler.
Agreed, can really benefit from a set of aftermarket brake pads - for my preference I'd prefer a bit of a harder pad as they don't melt away as quickly, but can't go wrong with swissstop overall.
Well done informative review.
And I love the honesty in carbon wheels not being the first choice in upgrades. For me personally, cockpit tailoring go a long way in improving performance because fit & comfort are the most important thing on a bike.
I own a bike with a Superteam frame and two aero (50mm) wheelsets. Exceptionally good quality. A little heavier than my ICANs.
This is a great review. Frank, honest and without brand dogma. I wish more reviews were like this. Great job Sir. Thank you for posting.
Really appreciate the comment Peter, will definitely make more to come :)
@@vittoriochiu8181 couldn't agree more. Excellent review, I'm getting my superteam wheelset today from Malaysia :) this review helped me a lot to make the decession.
@@nanthakumarpalaniappan8869 Amazing to hear, thanks Nantha - extremely excited for you and happy riding!! Also, glad to say the wheels have been running strong no issues as of yesterday :)
I feel this review didn't really need to mention points that are true to any rim brake deep profile carbon wheel and I wish you could compare stiffness with similar wheels on more expensive brands. Other than that, I liked the review. You speak clear and your ideas are also neatly expressed. Cheers! Keep up the good work
Thanks Jaime, I agree with this wholeheartedly but I don't have too many expensive wheels at my disposal. Got a pair of Zipp 404 Firecrests so maybe a good point of reference later on thanks for the support :)
I'm going to be honest, the orange "they made a mistake" wheels looked awesome,and I kinda wish I could get some like that.
I'm looking at the 70mm three-spoke wheel set.
Haha I'm sure you can ask them to do you a favour and get those full coloured decals made - completely agree with you those were sick, but for my personal build I preferred lowkey
- let me know how the 3 spokes go if you go for them, they look mad
@@vittoriochiu8181 I'm 100% certain that a review will be done on my own channel, when I get them.
There's at least two videos in every set of wheels. The "first look" video, and at least a long term review after 500 miles or km.
Good choice in music with the 'downside'. I was like shits getting serious. My favourite line "I can crash 4 of these, to break even on a pair of zipp wheels.". you get it HAHA
haha thanks man, still holds true today! I've got a pair of Zipps but if I'm being honest, difference is marginal if any, you get a 'zipp-ier' carbon finish & a subjectively fancier looking wheelset
@@vittoriochiu8181 good to hear! Thanks for getting back to me on this one. People pay for the brand, I pay for the performance and cost efficiency 😁.
@@thenoodlehunter6828 U got it! And completely agreed with that :)
My main reason for seeking a set of 45-55mm deep carbon wheels IS EXACTLY that carbon 'whoosh-roar' that they make when rolling along in a big gear.
It is a self-motivating stimulus to keep improving, and riding even faster yet (sort of like the scrubbing sound that the old Clement Criterium Super Seta Extra green label tubular tires made against the road when one jumped, or started a sprint).
YES, I will admit that I like the 'look' as well, but that 'sound' is just a must have for me.
The problem is that there are basically NO narrow internal, or external width carbon wheels in existence anymore, which are all that will work with my ancient Reynolds Ouzo fork, '01 vintage Campy Record 10 calipers, or '01 vintage Merlin Road frame's narrow chainstay clearance at the bottom bracket (let alone ones with an alloy braking surface like the Mavic Cosmic Carbones which I HATE myself for selling many years ago!). :( :(
Just ordered a pair of 50mm pair. Can't wait to test them out!!!
Congratulations!! Hope you have a great time with them
Appreciate the break down. I just purchased a set from ebay and the general consensus seems to be that these wheels are great value. Hoping I have a pleasant experience as well. Got yourself a new sub.
Love it, would be great to hear your experiences a few months down the line - I'm sure you'll have a pleasant time with them but if not I have pretty high confidence in their warranty thanks for watching!
I've a pair of Tubular Dura Ace C50 (10 sp) Rim brakes. No problem with braking. But I believe I will look for a pair these for my backup bike I'm building. Aluminum with carbon fork. I was going to use a set of Mavic Comsic Carbone SL wheels. But the spokes are hard to find. I need to replace some...but...I think I will and buy some of these "Take it as you will" lol. Nice video man. You convinced me.
Nice, the Dura Aces are definitely nice ones to have. For practicality I'd say Superteam definitely better than the Cosmic Carbones I've seen those on the market before, they seem expensive to service. For a secondary bike, Superteams are a solid choice - put on a set a decent brake pads and you're ready to run :). Thanks for watching!
@@vittoriochiu8181 I changed my mind. I will use these Superteam Wheelsset for my daily bike and use the Easton Circuit aluminum wheels on my backup bike. I will save the DA C50 for race. The case they are tubular makes it difficult when I run flat. I have to call someone to come and pick me up, while having clincher I will be able to change the inner tube and keep on riding.
@@aldrinclementina4297 haha good call! So it looks like carbon all-year round... I certainly do that and it's fine haha love it
I have the exact same rims as you. I bought in 2018. I have never had a problem with them. They are still true, the hubs have never been serviced. I must of put 20-30,000 miles on them so far. I think they are a great set of rim for the price.
Hi! There are several videos on how to take apart and lube the cassette body. Its not hard and you can do it once you get the hang of it in about 10 minutes. I prefer to use Mobil 1 5w30 or 0w20 motor oil. It lasts a long time.
Hey John, appreciate the heads up - genius that most auto parts are plug and play with bicycles as well I'll definitely look into it. Mainly just worried with the off chance that I do mess it up, the stores are reasonable with the servicing from what I've seen so far :)
@@vittoriochiu8181 It's not that hard. With a couple of Allen keys (two 5mm in the case of a Powerway or Novatec hub) a chain whip , a cassette removal tool and some degreaser a little patience and you will be on your way. After all , I can do it! If I can do it anyone can. Just pay attention to where any spacers or washers are when you take the cassette body off and you are golden. I use a long skinny zip tie to keep the pawls in when I put the cassette body back on. I don't actually close the zip tie because you won't be able to get it off. You can use anything very long and skinny like a small piece of plastic or a wire . when you get the pawls started back in the hub you pull the wire or zip tie out and the body will fall into place. Once you take it apart you will see what I mean. Bike shops aren't always open when you need them.
@@johnhorgash9031 completely agree with you on the bike shops, some are booking for two months in but luckily they're always willing to make exceptions for small jobs - will definitely look into this soon :)
Great looking wheels. I’ve been researching on the same topic, and something I want to share that’s not mentioned by many online reviewers - at the top of the food chain, where quality and tight metrics are part of the production process, there will be a yield, for the best wheels. And for the rejected (yield loss), generally they can be binned to different categories, like total scrap, grade A, B, C, etc. in order to save overall production cost, the lower grade products are sold to lower tier resellers/markets.
Another factor is reused of older tooling (molds), from previous generations of design, etc. once amortized, they can continue to make wheels at lower cost. This is unlikely to be coming from the top wheel makers, because they improve their design and keep producing new wheels with new tooling. Other factories may procure older tools to make wheels at lower cost.
Very plausible, thanks for sharing those insights - great to know that non-AAA yields are still repurposed for us to enjoy (and of course at different price points as well)
Thanks for the review. 👍🏼We will strive to create products with good values.
Most welcome, excited to see your developments :)
I just did over 1000k (in about 15 rides) on my super team 60/80mm clinchers, so far so good
Fantastic, here's to another 1000km :)
At the 11:20 mark I knew exactly where you were riding even though I don't live in Vancouver ha
hahaha love it, beautiful place to cycle
What a great video! I'm glad that there is someone who's reviewing Superteam. My experience has been great. I think I was corresponding with Candy too.
I bought a pair of 3 spokes from them for my TT/triathlon bike. Since I got a Ron rear disc I've been using only for the front. It's been very pleasant experience with it. I used Campagnolo red brake pads and stop very well even in the rain. I am talking about an inbuilt TT which tends to be quite useless normally. The handling is way better than my almost 10 year old Fulcrum 80 mm deep rims. It's quite stable even with side wind. How aerodynamic is it? It really depends on how fast we ride, but I have been to a couple of Ironman 70.3 world championships in recent years for my age group. I'd say if you cruse at around 40 km/h or slightly faster, I'd highly recommend it. Due to it's stability my average speed goes up because I can keep my aero position way longer. I have shown the wheels in my channel, but haven't done a specific review video, but maybe I should do one...
Appreciate the kind words! Totally agree it's a bit of a hidden gem in the market, some things appear too cheap to be considered good yet - on this occasion I'd say the initial risk was more than worth it. Glad to hear the Tri Wheels perform on par as well, thanks for sharing!
so for break pads I use reynolds cryo blue pads, they are amazing and last longer or swis pads yellow carbon . I've never had a problem with all 3 sets 2 sets of 50s & 1 set of 60s.. I recently bought a 4th pair 40/80 mix that I sold with my pinarello gan s. that was an amazing wheelset too.. you need to ride these alot to get use to the wind tossing u around a bit , it gives u better handling skills . I've been cycling for 24 years. & I love carbon wheels.. Superteam wheelset is awesome.
Awesome info, tested out a set of Black Prince pads but they wore out at an incredible rate - will take a look at cryo blues for the next time :)
What an excellent review, please keep it up
Thanks for the support Gabriel! :)
Do they make wheels for disk breaks ? Love the look! You picked a great colour 😍 I have a Shimano 105 11 speed with disk breaks on a Felts FR 30… what would fit ?
yes they do! And I believe they're the same price as well - on Amazon/eBay if you type in Superteam Disc wheelset you'll see many options and in your order, ask for the 11-speed freehub which should be standard. Thanks for the compliment, love how they turned out! :)
Very good review. Thanks for making the video
Most welcome! Glad you enjoyed
I was looking at a used bike that came with some, but ultimately decided against it. It seems like form you experience that they’d most likely work well for me; I’m a similar weight to you. However, I was was able to get a set of used Zipp alloy wheels for about the same price. They’re a similar weight to the Superteam 50mm, but they’re 30mm. Zipp claims though that they’re able to mimic the aero profile of larger rims. Who knows what I’d be better off with, but I like the peace of mind of having alloy and having a legit Zipp logo on my rims.
I completely don't blame you, genuine Zipps are a fantastic option as well - honestly, as non-pro riders who cares ride what you want it's gonna make a night and day difference between the two... If you ever want a brand new option Superteams are just a safe bet, but in the used market everything opens up. Congrats on your wheels have fun!
I’m wondering how a set of 25mm wide Conti GP500’s will fit on 25mm wide rims. My frame & fork can go up to 28mm wide tires, but it’s a close fit. Which is why I went back down to 25mm tires
Very good job on the review!
Many thanks!! :)
nice review. very well said.
Really appreciate the comment 😃
Well explained review! All the best!
Many thanks John!! All the best to you too :)
I hate to say it as it will probably invalidate the 2 year warranty. But these wheels are cheap enough for me to factor in some replacement bearings for the hubs before Ive even had them on the bike providing they take regular cartridge bearings. replace whatever cheap bearings they use from the factory with double sealed Enduro or any SKF, NTN, Koyo bearings.
as for the GCN stuff. I take their results with a big grain of salt because wind tunnels dont reflect real world usage where wind can be coming at you from any and every direction and not just head on.
If it survives past the 2 year warranty period, you've got a decent foundation for a rebuild.... Sapim CX-XRay spokes and a better hub of your choosing Bitex/DT Swiss - whatever you want.
SuperTeam or Elite from AliEx seem to be ok and I'm quite heavy (101KG). Average 250W Max 950W
Excellent to hear, those are definitely power numbers way beyond me!! Always wanted to try the Elites as well since they're UCI legal, glad to hear they work on your end
If you are not a racer and just ride for exercise or with friends, these are must. No need to spend thousands. I went to a cycling store and i bought some carbon fiber shifters, they werent a known brand. And I told a the old guy, are these good. Then he asked me, do you race, are you in a team? I said no, so he said, then they are, there is no need for expenisive stuff, just ride godammit 😂
LOL yup you said it, u really need nothing but I mean we all like having fun with new bike parts - get yourself a carbon wheelset for 500 or under, still all the fun of a 2,000+ wheelset. All the fun, not the wallet lightening, what's not to love
@@vittoriochiu8181 true haha
Subscribed! Great review.
Thank you! :)
Well explained, nice review.
Much appreciated :)
I only wish the major brands would take notice of how many people are actually buying these lower priced wheelsets and how many sales they are missing out on because of their greed. I custom built my carbon wheels and I couldn't find one carbon rim for under $400 each here in the US. I would bet that the company I bought my rims from (Boyd) didn't pay more than $30 for the rim that was obviously sourced from China or Taiwan. I would have purchased my rims from China if I could have found the ones I wanted but they were sold out at the time.
Completely agree with this, but at the same time I understand branding isn't cheap, R&D beyond a base mold isn't cheap, sponsoring riders isn't cheap so in a way, it does add up so I think there's a clientele for $, $$ and $$$. Some people are more than willing to pay a lot more for a little gain, and I think that's completely fair for those products to serve that market as well appreciate your thoughts on that
@@vittoriochiu8181 You said the right thing there "pay a lot more for little gain". There would be no noticeable difference between the base mold and a more customized layup. The aero benefits come from the size and shape of the rim. When it comes to quality of the hubs that's really debatable because I have used a lot of different hubs in my years and a lot of the hubs people claim to be the best are not really IMO. At any rate it is nice to see this offering at such a good price, thanks for bringing it to our attention.
@@wasupwitdat1mofiki94 not a worry for at all, it's a great debate to have and I agree with you it truly is a minor advantage in terms of carbon wheels ~depth/weight/hubs all around the same whether cheap or $$$$ - road cycling has a lot of clout surrounding it (me included) so... we drink the marketing more often than not hahaha :)
I just purchased some superteam front tri-spoke/rear disc wheelset and I am truly second-guessing my purchase for my safety sake. Can anyone who has had these wheels tell me if they are safe or if you have had a terrible mishap with them I really need to know.
Still undecided on whether to go Superteam or lightweight aluminium wheelset on my CAAD 10, any comments on comfort levels? I hear carbon fibre wheels better deal with the buzz of the road
That's a good question - I would say riding both aluminium wheels and carbon ones, whether Superteam or comparable, are more comfortable for sure it provides dampening qualities just like a carbon frame vs aluminium frame. Can't go wrong with either, but for my money I'd pick carbon especially if you want a deeper wheelset (30mm+), a deep section aluminium wheel is no good as they're incredibly heavy
Support you bro
Appreciate it vm :)
I had exactly the same noise what I see in the video after two weeks with I was 3 times trying to correct the noise exactly the same thing you show in the video
ah sucks, not happy to hear it's an issue that wasn't isolated; looks like it will have to lubricated as part of it's lifecycle
superb review!
Thank you!! Glad you enjoyed it
Really great review..and viewpoint. One question regarding rim width.. the 23 and 25 mm is internal or external? My stock rims are 22.5 external and internal must be like around 19, have to remove the tire to measure. You stated external but wondering if this was a goof ? Seems 25mm internal would be too wide on the outside and would be very tight clearance on my road bike fork.. I would go for 25mm external for sure. Please clarify :- ) Thanks ! (edit : found my answer in the ebay listing. diagram of rim profile. It's external. Thanks for links ! )
Glad you found the answer! I would've chosen the 25mm as well but stuck with the 23s since it was the default option. All the best with the order and have fun :)
@@vittoriochiu8181 thanks! I may in the future decide to try 28mm tire, mainly in the rear so I wanted the 25 rim for better compatibility. I'll run my 25mm tires for now as they are nearly new. I am hoping to have a good experience like you did with these.. rolling the dice but they look decent ! Fingers crossed.
@@g.fortin3228 Fingers crossed for you as well! I'm also running 25c on all my bikes, but putting skinnier tires on a wider rim bumps up the actual width of the tire beyond 25mm so for my use cases, I think it suffices over a 28mm unless you're doing harsh surfaces routinely
Just FYI: I have found Super Team to be very helpful in providing the correct wheelsets to me, meaning, I have been able to specify rim width, rim depth, braking (centerlock, six-hole disc, or rim brakes), and tubeless ready or not. Figure out what you need for your frame, and start a conversation with them (Queen Bike, who sells Super Team).
@@vittoriochiu8181 did you ever clarify what the actual internal width is? obviously you misspoke when you said they are 23 or 25mm internal width. thanks
thanks the information is appreciated.
No worries Roger, glad you had some practical takeaways! :)
I subbed!.. more china bike content, please!
Appreciate it!! Any products in particular that you were interesting in getting coverage for?
Hi I just purchased this wheelset and still waiting for them, what kind of break pads you can recommend? And how's your wheelset doing?
Glad to hear you got a pair! The waiting process could be a little longer since they're shipping & built from China from what I know (not sponsored btw). Wheelset's doing great, no issues since the video and still riding - I've actually been using the stock brake pads that came with the wheels although I heard Reynolds Cryo Blues are a good option there's also other recommendations in the comment section :) happy riding!
off topic, what tyres are these? I can see BONTRAGER brand but no model. THX
Those are Bontrager R3 tires I believe from 2013-2015, they still make the same tire but an updated model without the white sidewalls
Hi. I just bought the 50mm wheels from ebay and would like to hear more. If i have any questions i will sure ask 🙂
Please do! Still going strong on my end, nothing to add other than the video states :)
I just had the same issue with the rear wheel. one of the bearing is broken and make a horrible sound
Yikes, seems to be an issue with the Powerway quality control... hope you can get that sorted with not much trouble
@@vittoriochiu8181 They gonna send me some new bearings...
Hi bro ineed roue aluminium carbone but iwant know the best référence super team !?
SUPERTEAM Carbon Wheel Disc Braking 45C-25 Clincher … what do you think of this ones? $279 from Amazon. I am pairing it with my new Ridley Fenix slic 105 disc
I'm sure they are just as good or equal in performance as they're disc brakes - little less worry about braking performance as it doesn't come from the rime itself (nice bike by the way)
I think it’s also how they’re used
Are these carbon wheels any good for gravel bikes? Durability wise
I wouldn't recommend these for gravel, since they're quite narrow internally you'd want to stick on road anything beyond a 28mm tire would not fit well
WOuld you say that Notavec hubs are better sealed than the Powerway R13?
I would say Novatec has a slightly better track record and they're infinitely reliable according to other users
Hey I'm from van too. Wheels still holding good? I have a Trek Domane sl5 aluminum wheels. Worth to upgrade to this carbon ?
Hey Brendan, wheels holding good at the moment still riding on them weekly - only pain point is the rear hub requires a service every so often if you wash your bike / ride in rain the lubricant runs out. Otherwise, I'd say worthwhile upgrade noticeably better than bone stock alu wheels
@@vittoriochiu8181 thx for the reply. That's solid feedback. I have ksyrium sl superlight aluminum wheels at the moment. They are lighter than stock wheels. Really not sure if its worth the upgrade 🤔. Would upgrade it for sure if my wheels were stock
@@brendanli3533 would be an upgrade on the flats, would guess even on the climbs - I've felt a significant enough difference on flats riding at 25km/h and above typically, anything slower the difference is marginal imo
Good video
Appreciate it 👍
What is your computer mount?
This is the mount I am using, it's a direct mount to your stem bolts for that flush center mount. Personally am a big fan: www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003985984977.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.15.74c9457f4zELyX&algo_pvid=fe048066-c92f-4bb8-ba1b-ffe72a743886&algo_exp_id=fe048066-c92f-4bb8-ba1b-ffe72a743886-7&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21CAD%2113.39%214.95%21%21%21%21%21%40212240a316860938402791919d0787%2112000027646678623%21sea%21CA%211857065852&curPageLogUid=oMo8DEUoQWAN
Did you change the pads? If so, what are you using now? I tried the SwissStop FlashPro and they were chewed up within 300 miles... 😡
I actually have a pair of Zipp 404s which I recently purchased with the SwissStop Black Prince Flash Pro exactly like yours, they stop better but I do see a lot of wear already.
For the Superteams I stuck to the default pads which are hard surfaced, they work well enough although not the best I might consider changing to softer ones in the future
My Swissstop pads are totally fine with this wheelset, over 1000 miles with them already
@@willishuang3660 Yeah, I don't know what happened to mine but three rides and they were done. I don't even live in a hilly area either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I use Venn Fryse carbon pads on my Zipp 404’s. Stop well, and no appreciable wear so far, and i weigh 120kg (265 lbs )….
@@patrickparisienne1917 did a quick google search and I bet these are good - 'sold out' across the board
send the link for those front lights
You will need a Garmin + GoPro out front mount. Garmin on Top, GoPro attachment for the light :)
Here you go: www.amazon.ca/Wastou-Waterproof-Flashlight-Rechargeable-Included/dp/B07JFB4NJZ/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=86V6H5EF5I8I&keywords=bike+light&qid=1649909910&sprefix=bike%2Caps%2C499&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyUDFQUklMVU9ENTQ0JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMDA2NTQwMVRSOUxROUlHMUxSMiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMDI3OTU5Q0FCNTM4MkxaVVI4JndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==
Hi did they come with the spacers for 9 or 10 speed cassettes?
Apologies, I forgot to mention - yes it does come with spacers for 10 speed - I'm not 100% certain if it came with 9 speed but I think it did
@@vittoriochiu8181 thanks for the reply, 9 should be 1.85mm, 10 is 1.85+1mm
@@simonchun6780 No worries at all, I'm certain if you contact the seller beforehand you can get the spacers in the package but yes I have both the 9 and 10 in mine
nice video bro
Appreciate it 🙌
After 300 miles the rear wheel makes noise all the time I'm on the bike I do not understand it all the time makes noise I got a message to the company we will see what they will do it's wrong
I had issues with the skewers. They would come loose very easily. I had to get aftermarket skewers. Also, no brand recognition. Cyclist are quite brand conscious folk and you can feel a little self-conscious when everyone else has zipps, enve wheels etc
oh really that sucks, but good to know I personally still have no issues with the skewers they're basic but functional. I agree, but the lack of brand recognition is the primary reason that it's 1/5th a zipp. 5 superteams or one zipp? I'd go with the former personally and this is coming from someone with one of each
Do the carbon wheels come with drain holes?
I believe they have, taken them in extremely wet scenarios and no issues there - however, rear hub is not sealed great, can get water that strips out the lubricant so would be wary about spraying with pressure wash/shower
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Great review. Too heavy and too delicate for me, I appreciate the review all the same.
Thanks for the kind words, glad you were able to come to that conclusion :)
Do ya think 33mm tires will fit on these?
I'm sure they would fit (assuming your frame allows) but it won't be great since the wheel itself is relatively narrow - you'll get a tire bulging with the bead which might cause more punctures/a smaller contact patch on the tire. I would recommend probably 30mm max on these for the best performance
Bro, you should have kept that first orange pair, those look so sick and you would have the only pair in existance.
Hahaha, trust me I've thought long and hard about that one... technically, I'm sure you can go back to them and they'd happily make one for you today
@@vittoriochiu8181 I had no idea they could even do something like that. I've heard of people getting custom decals but have never seen a colored finish on carbon. I already own 3 pairs of Superteam wheels, maybe if I purchase another set down the road they can hook it up. It's cool you posted a picture of what they sent you though, it highlights the ability to personalize your bike in another way. : )
@@motogp9253 that's amazing, they are quite bulletproof wheels to date, you should definitely send her a message to see what custom creation u can fulfill :-) definitely share if you do end up going that route
Should try carbon specific break pads?
Let us know if they make a difference with breaking
Yeah for sure, the ones used were already carbon specific but they were a harder compound - if I do switch to a softer compound I will update the performance here
What hubs are fitted on the Superteams?
I believe they are rebranded Powerway R13, somewhat comparable to entry-level Novatec hubs
@@vittoriochiu8181 Do they offer an upgrade option for the DT Swiss hubs, as some of the other China manufactured carbon wheel brands do??
Also, is there a Campy 10 speed freehub option?
I mean as in riders weight?
There is a rider limit as with all carbon wheels, but it's in the vicinity of... over 200 lbs - for the most part everyone can ride carbon but heavier riders do see to have more issues with maintenance/failures :)
'aloominum' you must be from Canada. I'm trying to correct my whole family on the 'good' pronunciation. ;)
hahaha you got it, aluminium or aluminum there will never be just one best answer :)
Are these the ones with the R7 hub ?
These are the ones with the R13, I know they offer R7 as well if you're interested (not sure the difference to be honest)
@@vittoriochiu8181 Thanks!
@@henryli5951 No worries!
I have a question is there a limit to weight on these weels? I will be looking forward to hearing soon :P
20kph is average?!?
20 km/h is about the speed you need to hold for the wheelset to make any difference - very doable on a road bike ;)
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Did he say 130 ponds ?
I'm close to 200/196 ponds.
Yes, 130 pounds is correct - I don't suspect you'll have issues at 200 pounds, but I would recommend looking at reviews from riders with similar weights first
Barely if any lighter,lose braking power,not necessarily any faster,squirrly in wind,hubs not sealed well,................but they get a job done?................it sounds like even at 400.00 your not getting much except looks.
Totally get that, the main advantage compared to a nice set of aluminums is really the looks, but I can say the hubs have been rock solid 'til now - pretty confident to say that barely of the carbon wheels will give you a significant boost in km/h as most wind tunnel/real world tests show... whether you find a 1-2 kmh worth the expense that's up to you but as a carbon wheelset for ~$400, I still stand by the fact that it's good value IF you want carbons
You are correct, in my shop I have seen the quality of Super team wheels and I would not waste my own money on them. You can get a DT Swiss wheel in aluminium for that price with DT Swiss quality hubs and they are lighter, stronger, safer and stop better. From my experience looking at the misfortunes of customers I would say never buy any carbon wheels for less than 1k. "Buy cheap buy twice" as my dad always used to say.
Aerodynamics are factual. If you are a rider that has no problem going +40kph any deep section wheel will make a big difference in speed. About the weight. If you compare the weight with high quality brand, theses wheels weight is not bad at all, not the lightest but descent. Aluminum deep section wheels, with the amount of material needed, would weight a ton so there IS a weight advantage if you compare.
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I’d want to know where in China these were being produced and if slave labor (eg Uighurs) were being used in their manufacture before buying anything badged Superteam.
Totally fair point, I took a look at their address: No.35 Siming Yuan,East zone of 1st floor、2nd floor Industrial Area,Tong'an Dist.,Xiamen,Fujian,China
Hard to say exactly/who's working on the wheelsets but from what I know their reputation is strong enough I'd trust that skilled labour is needed to create these products
cheap (and not light), that's why I personally wouldn't want them. but if someone bought a pair and made them work for themselves long term, more power to 'em.
Completely agree, however I'd be lying if they're anymore heavier than the competition - give or take from a name brand it's probably 100g difference been using them multiple times a week on all conditions still running fine
can we see the bike not the dude pls
Can't handle - or wont tolerate questions about the manufacture of these products and the CCP I guess, huh Vittorio? Do you ever wonder why they're so "cheap"? Just look the other way....
Absolutely not, I apologize if you interpreted my answer wrongly - I personally don't know about the working conditions or processes to get their cost of goods low. That's something that's related to the company's practices, and I have no issues admitting that the reasoning for their pricing could or could not be potentially unethical