Mastering with Gullfoss
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- If you're struggling to get your mixes to translate into the real world, Gullfoss might be the solution. It'll certainly clean things up in a hurry! Try it for free, or get it for 30% off until April 28 at www.soundtheor...
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This thing is great as a pair of golden ears too. 1) Put it on whatever source 2) listen if it improves things, if it does; 3) try and figure out why and learn to apply it without Gullfoss. That way you don't outsource your skills to an automated unit and get lazy.
I've noticed that when you EQ/compress the source, trying to bring it close to what Gullfoss does, there's a point where adding it doesn't make something better anymore.
I've had Gulfoss for about a year now, it's amazing. It just brings any mix to life.
Decided to try this thing out on my most recent mix in place of my usual mastering EQ and HOLY CRAP does this thing make a difference! I think that's the fastest I've ever purchased something.
Nailed it!
Dude there's actually one other important feature you didn't cover: the high pass and low pass filter lines that you can drag in from the sides so that you can tell the plugin not to mess with the upper and lower extremities. I find that useful because I like what Recover is doing in the low end but my mix didn't need it in the high end, so I just drag that low pass over a little bit and bam.
wow had no idea, since you know that much, do you think it should be the last plugin in master chain or before something?
@@insertanynameyouwant5311 Preference is always a factor, so results may vary, but I would start with it just before the final limiter. EQ boosts can cause dB boosts, better to make sure the limiter still catches it if it happens.
Why you showing everyone the secrets Glenn
"Glenn's Secret Sauce to Success"
Bc why not
Don't carry the secrets to the grave. Humanity will have nothing but shit-sounding music in the future.
@@elimontoya8626 hold ur secrets till u succeed THEN show them...dont tell everyone ur seceret before no one knows u a youtuber released all scream teqniques and fucked himself over not making music with it FIRST. Make money with ur hobbies or at least try to make 10$ a year from it somehow if its not the plan
No gatekeep da secretz
I’ve owned for about six months.I use just before the limiter when mastering and as a handy tool to visually examine what it’s doing on an individual track. It’s worth every penny to me.
that extreme high end rise is a sure sign of a newb. "looking pretty good,?!?!!?" Jesus man you know you don't EQ with your eyes
Even if you're worried about falling into some kind of preset box, you could look at what Gullfoss does to a song to learn new and better ways to clean things up; then you could do the same things manually while adding your own personal touch. Still a super useful plugin, even if you don't just throw it on there straight-up.
Any one else kept thinking Geoff Tate’s vocal was about to come in?
That guitar tone was very Ratt.
I’m just glad it didnt
I don't believe in love.
@@everyinchtheanimal Hmm....not sure why not. At his prime he was untouchable. He had a unique voice. Especially by todays cookie cutter vocals on most music. Nothing original in metal today.
@@TheAxe4Ever cookie cutter vocals?
Before applying gullfoss: there’s a blanket on your speaker
After applying gullfoss: someone stole the blanket
Gullfoss... it's awesome. Can definitely make our mixes sound better but can also tell us a bit about our mixes! Great video, Glenn! 😎🤘
Gulfoss is a really nice plugin. It is part of a family of plugins that are all really useful.
However, I like Izotope’s sculptor module in Neutron more. They both do that thing well but sculptor gives you more control.
Anyways, this is a good demo and is appreciated
I installed this plugin a few weeks ago but didn't have a chance to try, everytime I check a review it sounds awesome.
GLENN-N-N-N! I'm a multi instrumentalist and solo artist mainly in hip hop but metal/prog was my first love. I'm branching more and more into the production and mixing side to add more real flavor back to music thanks to using a lot of YOUR techniques. I'm a big fan of Fabfilter plugins for mixing and mastering and recently discovered that using a Hughes and Kettner GM36 directly to a UA 6176 has offered the sweetest tones I've EVER heard out of my system. I'd really love to hear some opinions on the 6176 and perhaps this method of recording instruments/vocals.
KCUF uoY nnelG and rock on! Love your videos sir!
The side chain feature would be used similarly to Soothe 2. I've used a more basic process for making room for vocals against guitars. By sending the guitars to 2 busses and adding a cross over around 1K then side chain compressing the top end of the guitars by a couple DB of reduction only when the vocals come in allowed more clarity in the vocals. It's a lot more routing than using a smart EQ but it had a similar effect. My process also doesn't have the exact negative notching for a more natural sound.
You were correct - "sidechain functionality, which means that you can now export stems with your Gullfoss settings"
thanks for sharing!
Am I the only one who thought that the riff at around 8:10 sounds a lot like Corporeal Jigsore Qundary by Carcass? Kickass either way!
wow that 2nd mix really benefitted well from gullfoss, shit opened right up
Master master smart EQ that I’ve been after master master promised only highs ( gets the lows and mids too)
That's a good one :D
Really like this plugin Glenn. Played around with the trial awhile back. I picked up Soothe 2 first because it was on sale. Definitely going to pick this up soon. You ever try Soothe 2 or Smart EQ by Sonible? I'd love to hear/see your opinions on such things. Thanks for another great video buddy.
Just picked up the 🐓 Blocker plugin & side chained it like in Trey's vid. Great work brother. Amazing tool for heavy modern music. It's been a very noticeable difference in the recording
Like Gullfoss a lot. btw you can also enter the values in case the sliders are not responding the way you like :) Just click on the parameter you wanna change and type numbers in. Done.
That song definitively have some good old Carcass influences! Great vibe!!
I heard I don't believe in love by Queensryche
@@Guitarplayer7253 Of course!
It's good to mention that you fed the software some really well mixed recordings so it could do its thing. You already had great tones and all of that. The software had to do the final touches and still needed you there to tell how much of what.
Nice! The subtle way it eq’s and tightens the mix makes all the difference in the world!
The gulfloss mix is so much more airy and tight. I felt like i can hear the snare better and the “ah” of the reverb stood out more so it sounded a lot bigger. Plus waay less muddy. Heard a lot of hype around this plugin, you may have just convinced me to buy yet another thing.
I do the same thing on my master track, but using multiple instances of the free TDR Nova, targeting the sides or the mid channels (high end for the sides, bass and mids on the mid channel). But using Gullfoss would probably save you a lot of CPU and will make your chain look much cleaner, and sound cleaner too since it looks like it uses 50 bands at once. With TDR nova, you're stuck with 4 bands per instance.
I'm concerned with the meters on red lol
That peaking is on the snare top fader you can get some extra pop and snap if you peak your snare a bit since it's such a sharp transient use peaking distortion to your advantage but don't over use it
^this.
Purposely clipping (distorting) drum transients is a great way to get some extra perceived loudness or oomph out of the drums without having to clamp down so hard with compression or limiting. Many DAWs come with a plugin that will let you clip those transients without slamming the channel (Soft Clipper in Cubase, for instance). Works wonders for bringing out more of the drum tones as well since compression/limiting won't be crushing the overall output as much.
Sold. Thanks Glenn. I'm loving Flatline too, so thanks for bringing that to my attention as well.
Glenn i would LOVE to see you on nail the mix, is that something you would like to do? I remember you mentionning nail the mix on your show a few years ago and its thanks to you that i signed up! Cheers from France!
I infinitely doubt that would ever happen, at least if he keeps mixing like he does now; his mixes sound too artificial and overprocessed.
@@DankoHidalgo hey look who’s back. Have you come to teach us how to process drums?
Gullfoss sounds like an old-school Role playing game villian.
On it brother!!! Already re mastering old stuff!!! WOoooHoooo!!
"Recovery" on the drum shoot-out single was great,took a great mix and suprisingly made it a little cleaner and tighter.Very cool software.thanks Glenn👍🤘
Saw Andrew Huan talking about this plugin a few month back, picked it up the same day. Love it.
can we get a breakdown of that mindcrime style mix???? I am actually working on a cover of eyes of a stranger with some friends and would like to see how you got the guitar and bass sounding so close, yet being fuller than the original, almost like a veil was lifted off the original mix.
Given that it's named after the Icelandic waterfall, I think it's pronounced more like "Gootl-foss".
Mastodon pronounced gullfoss how it's spelled in "Island" so I can't change my opinion at this point
The Nordic (minus Finland) *u* is like a very short and slightly tighter-lipped *oo* . The pressure is also at the start of the word not between gull and foss. In Norwegian it simply means 'golden waterfall'.
Brings out where the ride cymbal is being hit.
Subtle but makes a huge difference to the overall sound.
I love that bass tone! care to show what's going on there?
New strings.
Aurora DSP Mammoth would be my guess... it's a sick plugin
@@jamielailey4594 that or Parallax
That hair line is receding faster than the waters of Sun Moon Lake.
However cool video lol
Gullfoss is good, try GW Mixcentric, its a one knob plugin and honestly I use it on just about every mix I do, it just makes things work, try it out if you have waves!
It's subtle in its improvements. Very cool.
THIS SHIT RIGHT HERE, is a fucking game changer. Glenn thank you much for this.
This plugin is great, the only other one I can think of that gets you similar results is Oeksound Soothe. I actually have tried both in conjunction with success. great stuff.
Where would i use this in my master bus? This plug in, plus comp, plus limiting?
What program or hardware do you use to feed your sound to your computer along with your video? the sound is great! Are you sending the audio through your HDMI feed with your camera, or audio later, and syncing it up?
Really digging this song! Sounds like something off of Operation: Mindcrime! Keep up the great work Glenn!!!
Hell yeah I love SMG and I love Gulfoss! Great video I didn’t know I needed!
Love you Glenn🖤
Great plugin!
Hi Glen
Have tried it and i am impressed.
The thing with this is if you have a dark sounding instrument let's say under a bright drum sound, if the drum stop playing the dark instrument will suddenly become bright. Not always what you want.. ;)
You haven't tried it, have you? because that doesn't happen
@@UncleBenjs interesting..
I’d be interested to see how this compares to Izotope’s Ozone elements 9, which has a mastering assistant.
I was about to ask this question as well. But... fer advanced. I normally defer to not buy right away... too many options
@@savagetofu1 same. I’ve been using elements since last summer. I think it offers a good starting point for EQing for those like me that have little to no experience with master EQing. You definitely have to play with it after the assistant does its thing to fine tune things
Ya. Mastering assistant, has helped considerably. It’s really the only plug-in I use. I’m not sure this plug-in does anything differently. I’m a sucker for buying stuff today... that I’ll use the heck out of two years from now.
Doesn’t even compare, I have full Ozone 9 and I’ll use both on a master. Most of Ozone is static dynamic changes while Gulfoss is changing every second based on what you tell it.
Gullfoss is great. I use it on half my mixes. Sometimes it makes all the difference.
But does it increase you overall gain?? What I mean is, if you have the plugin activated, does that boost your gain higher to clipping?
i use izo ms dynamic eq into a clipper post fader does it well and lets elements pop and trick the brain into a more interesting place in stereo, im not sure if more of the world are listening to music on headphones these days i know early mornings when checking my work i do, these tools help all the same
What's the song you're mastering here? really liking it.
I would be very interested how it compares to Neutron 3's Sculpting feature. Do you know that, Glen?
Hi Glenn, awesome video as always but one thing, when you sidechain your voice against the music it gets kind of annoying after a while making it hard to hear the differences :)
'tame' makes it sound pretty 70's. Interested.
Downloaded and tried the Live version, simply because the other one is not working/present. Impressed even with Live, so I guess I'll have to read the instructions ;-)
Hey Glenn, Have you tried the Okensound Soothe plugin? I first heard about it watching Hugh's interview with Eric Vanentine, and he praised it highly. Seems to work within a similar concept maybe?
Keep being awesome! Cheers.
(Off topic) Where are you sourcing those bad-assed Robotech shirts from?!? Especially the TNG ones! GAH, Robotech was my JAM back in the day!!
Good morning GLENN!!!!!
Aren't those kind of magic tools bad w.r.t. people learning to understand how to make a mix that's not muddy in the first place, becoming reliant on such intransparent magic?
It's really weird that you don't know what sidechaining is, it'll allow you to use another tracks audio output to control or modulate parameters on the plugin
Difference between this EQ and Hornet 31 in your guy's opinion?
Hey Glenn have you tried oeksound soothe? It’s great to clean the audio, after using it you eq to reach your desire sound. To me it’s been a life saver the last couple of months
So this is what people expected the sonic maximizer to be? But for your entire mix?
Ok, so does this REPLACE your eqs, or do you use it in addition to any eqs you have?
I searched for this video and it was out 2 days ago 😳😳😳🔥
Should this go on the stereo out buss or master? Before or after Sonarworks?
On the master before sonarworks but don't forget to turn off sonarworks once you render. Reasons: sonarworks is just room correction not "track correction". If you put it after sonarworks it's gonna try to compensate for sonarworks eq.
@@h1de Thanks!
@@gregnipp7549 no problemo 😁👍
I decided to give this a try! Do you recommend to use this in ADDITION TO or INSTEAD OF a multiband compressor in mastering?
Great demo!
So it's basically a fancy exciter? The bypass on and off sounds pretty much the same as turning on and off an exciter
there are more and more of these "auto EQ's" cropping up eg Izotope Sculptur, TB Pro Audio DSEQ, Oeksound Soothe - does this start to replace the role of the engineer? Are we dumbing down the mix process?
Technology is inevitably going to improve, so you can adjust to the times or be left in the past. It's definitely getting easier to be an engineer (which has negative consequences for the industry) but when you think about it objectively, making a skill more consumer friendly for average people to use is awesome, especially as most musos are broke anyway. I use Gulfoss on every mix I do and tbh it's not incredible - if there's unwanted noise it'll bring it up in the high frequencies and it's subtle improvements at best. The same can be said for iZotope auto mastering as well. It actually makes my workflow faster and better, so for now AI is in the hands of engineers who already know how to use the tools. In the long run, we may be replaced, but also there may be new and exciting ways our careers can unfold. Having said that, automation is very scary and is going to cause massive structural economic problems, but that's more of a Capitalist problem than an EQ thing!
@@TheRealBibwitHarte It's not about being left in the past, it's about whether or not you consider yourself a *true* engineer or someone who uses presets and auto solutions.
The real difference will be when you *don't* have those tools at your disposal (working in someone else's studio etc) and you're asked to mix something.
Not sure why people assume "most musos are broke", most I know hold down jobs to pay for their hobbies / interests. Can't buy new gear without cash.
Not sure what the comment about Capitalism was related to, certainly not this discussion, let's leave the political stuff to politicians instead of blatantly showing a bias ;)
@@WRMCHNC Don't think there's any bias in saying that our current economic landscape (globalised, neoliberal capitalist) is geared around profit maximisation, and as AI gets better and replaces huge swathes of the job market as its saves employers labour costs we're in for huge structural, economic challenges. CGP Grey has a great video called "Humans Need Not Apply" which shows that although automation creates new jobs, the vast majority of the biggest industries (and employers) in the world have existed for hundreds of years are at risk of automation. You can still be right wing and agree with this - this is an objectively big problem.
Either way, if you're used to AI/plugins that do everything for you and don't understand the difference between opto and fet compressors, or how to use parallel compression or something, then when you don't have your easy tools lying around like Gullfoss, you're probably in trouble. I agree with you there. I also think there's inherent merit in understanding the fundamental principles behind music production - I know that my understanding of acoustics and rough engineering knowledge has improved me as an engineer. I also agree in the sense that the best engineers who make the best mixes are never going to rely 100% on AI. There is a human element to mixing and that creativity and nuance is important. You may be right that musos do have jobs, but the vast majority don't live on music alone. And lots of people who make music are young and financially struggling. There's also a difference between able to survive and buy a nice bit of gear every now and then vs having a dedicated mixing room in your house with custom built bass traps, NS10s, Amphions and original LA2A/1176s. That's super out of reach for most people, including myself as well haha
Here's the big disagreement here though, what do you define as a 'true' engineer? I use presets all the time, when I'm using distortion or reverbs and delays and then tweak them to how I want. It's a super easy way to bounce through ideas quickly. Musos also do that with presets on their synth patches, for example. Am I not a true engineer because I do that? Because then 99% of engineers aren't either. Where is the line for a true engineer? I'm sure if you talked to older engineers when DAWs were first coming around, they said the same thing as you. That 'true' engineers record to tape, not crap sounding digitally converted garbage. And now, here we are where some of the biggest engineers on the planet are entirely ITB. My point is, there is no 'true' audio engineer. For the consumer, who wants a song to sound amazing and make them feel something, who cares if you recorded it to tape, or used a reverb room, or used Gullfoss? They want to enjoy music for the sake of music, and as engineers we can be get caught up in our world. Dave Pensado uses Gullfoss and Soothe in every one of his mixes and I guarantee engineers will continue to use AI as it gets better, because at the end of the day the only thing that matters is if the song sounds great.
i thought we´re not puttig a ton of plugins on the Mix Bus and fix the Problems where they appear.
Read your name & there’s the answer
Nah, in your examples of the full mix it just pumps trying to average spectral changes. This works completely against having actual arrangement and different instruments with different timbres. Spectral dynamics are much better suited to evening out individual parts such as differences in bass strings, vocal sibilance, etc.
It could be beneficial to use it as a second pair of ears to suggest some possible changes for your mix/master, though.
i would like to see if you put a dynamic EQ right in front of that and gave it the same general eq shape would it more flatten the Gullfoss out??
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How would you use it on a top down mix ??
CHEERS FROM GREECE
That's super cool. Do you know of any plugins for mastering for vinyl?
Awesome glenn. Would it be a final mastering? Or would i use it in conjunction with bx masterdesk
I'm like #501 I love the cool like numbers....501 like my favorite jeans!!!!!!!!!!!!
You forgot the Boost button, which is not a volume control. It controls the low mids/bass verses upper end relationship.
Its a tilt slope
What can Gullfloss do that CLARO can’t do?
Fatastic!!!🙌🙌
Love the shirt too!👍👍
GReat video!!!! you should analyze the ones from sonible!!! Artificial Intelligence plugins for the mastering!!!
I’m curious about comparison with Sonnox Oxford Inflator and Slate Fresh Air
Gullfoss its awesome, try Soothe 2 as well
These mixes keep sounding more and more like paper.
How to use this now I've got it? Can I put it after my usual mastering chain before the limiter? Need to add some fatness and tame brash HH's ;-)
This thing will balance the mix so it does not have any coloration or appealing curve! Its best at the start of the chain so you feed the other following processors with a “good balanced mix” !! Hope you get it!
Interesting plugin
Like number 11. Hell yeah!
"cool stuff cool stuff cool stuff all you need is an iLok" OFFS
You know you've watched too much SMG when you're looking at product demos for pieces of gear you're interested in and call out a producer on their guitar signals being basically squished cubes in their DAW instead of a normal guitar signal.
Huh. Sounds like a side-chained spectral ducker working on a copy of the original, with the individual thresholds set so that the result approaches something between pink and white noise, biased by the human hearing curve.
But cooler.
The mix reminds me of tool Glenn
Glenn, love ya man, but could you not talk right as you’re switching on and off plugins? It’s hard to hear the changes
Nice and early today!
Hey Glenn, is it possible to know what kind of "theme" you are using with Reaper ?? Is it custom ?
Looks like the default v6 theme to me
11:17 .... sound like the House of Kush.
that's crazy