Brigandine, Coat of Plates, Corazinna, Oh My! Plate Torso Protection in the 14th Century.

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ธ.ค. 2024

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  • @wampuscat1831
    @wampuscat1831 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I read where the best one was made using both leather and sailcloth. I haven't seen one made anywhere,so built one. Real canvas sailcloth is quite thicker than canvas from harbor freight.Combined with leather it retains stiffness and resistance to being holded before metal was added.

  • @kombatwombat6579
    @kombatwombat6579 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't understand how this doesn't have more likes. I love the fact that the first thing to be shown are sources and references.

  • @philiprayner
    @philiprayner ปีที่แล้ว +1

    one of the sets of armor from Visby looks like reworked lamellar D plates worked into a coat

    • @corrugatedcavalier5266
      @corrugatedcavalier5266  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep! They had all kinds of stuff going on in the Visby finds. No two are exactly alike from what I've seen.

  • @philiprayner
    @philiprayner 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    and you also have to add in all the dress or parade armor that was being made in those lists

  • @Langenschwerte
    @Langenschwerte 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That's a nice piece of armor (your corazinna/COP) - did you make it yourself, or if not, who did?

    • @corrugatedcavalier5266
      @corrugatedcavalier5266  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you! That's a semi custom piece from Aleksey Perebeynos

  • @gamemaster7903
    @gamemaster7903 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! Can you tell me how much your reproduction coat of plates weighs? Do you have an average estimated weight of the armors found at the Wisby site? Thanks!

    • @corrugatedcavalier5266
      @corrugatedcavalier5266  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do! I actually have an entire video on armor weight, mine vs. historical, uploaded right before this.

  • @TailcoatGames
    @TailcoatGames ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you know a place to go for a nice long gambeson

    • @corrugatedcavalier5266
      @corrugatedcavalier5266  ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you have a specific period in mind? Planning to wear it under armor or mostly on its own?

    • @TailcoatGames
      @TailcoatGames ปีที่แล้ว

      @@corrugatedcavalier5266
      So I was trying to get a men at arms look with a bevor and kettle and then the gambeson (sense I could add more bits of plate to my legs and hands over time)
      As far as period goes idk what exactly honestly I don’t really want a specific period to be honest just anywhere from 1200-1500 is fine by me

    • @corrugatedcavalier5266
      @corrugatedcavalier5266  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TailcoatGames It will help to narrow the time period down a bit. A kettle hat or visorless sallet would both be good options. Bevor and kettle hat isn't actually seen all that much in my experience, but it does exist. If you like that look, kind of mid 1400s is about where you want to go. If you're looking for something not too expensive, the Lord of Battles options are not horrible from what I've seen. If you're in the US, take a look at Kult of Athena. If you're willing to spend a bit more, options will open up considerably.

    • @TailcoatGames
      @TailcoatGames ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don’t know how much I’d be willing to spend I just want it to be nice and authentic so I can have my bragging rights lol
      That why I’m scared of KOA everyone has differing opinions on em
      I’ll look up lord of battles
      I’m in California

    • @corrugatedcavalier5266
      @corrugatedcavalier5266  ปีที่แล้ว

      @Tailcoat Games if you find something you're thinking about I'm happy to give it a look as well. I know a couple of people with Lord of Battles garments and some models are not bad.

  • @josephlucas4024
    @josephlucas4024 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you know of any brigandines used with guns?

    • @corrugatedcavalier5266
      @corrugatedcavalier5266  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm nearly positive they were still being used in that era, but it's not my area of study to be honest. I'll dig into it a bit!

    • @duchessskye4072
      @duchessskye4072 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Brigandines remain popular well into the 1500s so there's tons of cases of them being used with guns

    • @Specter_1125
      @Specter_1125 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠@@duchessskye4072some people chose to keep using them even into the 16th century, though I’m not sure if they’d withstand gun fire the same way a breastplate would.

    • @duchessskye4072
      @duchessskye4072 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Specter_1125 most breastplates wouldn't reliably withstand gunfire either, it's only the really high grade proofed ones which were meant for that (and even those were only proof at distances, not point blank).
      This is why some military authors of the 16th century argue that it's not useful to make their soldiers wear breastplates, since it doesn't protect against the guns.
      Orsini in the late 15th century says the same thing, but he talks in favour of mail shirts. According to him a mail shirt is the best option for light cavalry because it is more convenient than a breastplate or brigandine, and the latter doesn't stop shots anyway he says (keep in mind he's talking about munitions grade stuff, not the highest end armour money could buy).

    • @SuperFunkmachine
      @SuperFunkmachine 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Some of the WW1 and early flack vests are quite brigandine like.
      But ww1 armour is wild, there's plate armour, scale, mail, brigandine and fabric armours too.