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it will be very difficult to have a weinstein documentary because of the non disclosure agreeements that pretty much everyone that worked with the weinstein company had to sign. the moment say Oprah or whoever goes to interview these people for the evidence and the paperwork- they will get sued. and who wants that. Even with this MJ story there will b a lot coming after them. Since the 1st time Wayens family went to Neverland, they had to sing paperwork, and they even say how scary this was. Nothing had happened yet they were put "en garde" if you divulge anythign that happens here, you will be sued. I mean as a guest, you are probably in shock, then you are subdued, then you probably just go with it as it unfolds.
@@AT-cy7im thats not even true, only robson and safechuck said that they had to sign papers. All other people (and there were many) that visited Neverland, or lived there said there was no such paperwork.
Well so were those two idiots who defended him the whole time even under oath COUNTLESSLY. This is all very easy to do now that he's been long gone for quite some time now. It's not about Oprah, she's nothing but a news broadcaster broadcasting the most philatelist stories she can get her hands on, that's all she's ever been. It's about these two idiots who didn't have the balls to do this along with all the kids who did while Michael was still alive to do something about it which is why they have no credibility at all.
@Sally Ann yes in fact he was always suspicious about her and he was so right. She wanted to be him. He is a legend. She is nothing. Dust in the wind, soon.
Please watch Square One 1993/2005/Wade th-cam.com/video/ZxNDb2PVcoM/w-d-xo.html "Razorfist" Neverland debunked th-cam.com/video/zYx0vLfpRYY/w-d-xo.html Charles Thomson defends the law th-cam.com/video/LHvmi_Cr8QY/w-d-xo.html Weinstein/Oprah connections th-cam.com/video/1Ht2pcr3gjk/w-d-xo.html
After all of Oprah's interactions with the Jackson family over the years, I find it very odd that she chose to present the story in such a definitive way (MJ being guilty of these supposed crimes, without any real proof except for their testimony after his passing). Made me lose a lot of respect for her.
Michael never trusted her. I never trusted her. If she cared about victims she wouln't make this sweet and humanist a victim of her abuse. Cause saying lies and trying to put someone 's name in the mud, is a grave abuse. She should be jeailed.
Both these flops are feeling salty because Michael promised to help them with their careers and left them out for dead because they’re pure opportunists. Their mums are the ones who abused them for forcing them to work as kids. Dan Reed was real shady using unethical tactics with the film. It was sooo one sided and he didn’t get the facts right
I still haven't told anyone my uncle was abusing me only because the guilt my mom would feel would kill her. She is just too sweet to put her through that. Even though I know what a scumbag my uncle was, I will never tell just for that one & only reason.
Why didn't Oprah have the victims of Harvey Weinstein and John of God on? They are both serving TIME for their crimes. Yet, Oprah allows these 2 PROVEN liars to tell their stories without question. Is this white privilege?
Funny how NONE of Wade Robson's testimony, under OATH, in MJ's criminal trial is even mentioned. How can you ignore in MJ's 2005 criminal trial he stated MJ NEVER touched him? Do you realize it's called PERJURY to lie under oath in a criminal trial, risking going to jail for 5 years or more? The fact he is LYING now for money is the crime. But oddly under oath, he stated MICHAEL JACKSON LOVES WOMEN. And you know how he knows it? Because Wade's own MOTHER pursued MJ. All of the women wanted him and their REVENGE is now coming to. IN fact, MJ had an interest in Jordy Chandler's MOTHER and she was at Neverland when Wade's mother was there and Wade's mother said under oath in 2005 that June Chandler was "bossing around the staff at Neverland and behaved like the mistress of Neverland." 🤣
This comment thread is full of wack jobs that would allow their children to spend the night with their favorite star - Michael Jackson , so that’s a very naive comment.
Still bewilders me that a man at the peak of his career had the time to spend with these kids .. innocent or not …. And that none of his family/ advisers/ staff advised him that this was not a good idea to have these kids around so much , even on the basis of public perception
Could it be because he didn't spent so much time with them ? At least less that they do declare ? MJ was always surrounded by a lot of people, family and friends, working a lot, with a lot of sollicitations.
Peds always surround themselves with children. Coaches, priests, Boy Scouts, gymnastics. Look at Nasser. Parents thought they were so lucky to have this man treating their kids injuries. Finally people are waking up. Ever person defending MJ has children at risk, because they are blinded by celebrity.
@@madiola1234 MJ was investigated by the FBI and Police and found innocent in court. Wade and James said MJ did nothing sexual . So the shady ones are Wade and James. Also Oprah was accused on lying about her childhood sexual abuse and poverty to make her ratings higher. Kitty Kelly's book Oprah.
@@madiola1234 la Toya is sort of the black sheep of the family? That's the thing about sex abuse, you don't need any evidence, you can say anything at anytime for any reason. It is the easiest thing in the world to lie about. Wade and James went from 0 to MJ did everything. So they definitely are lying but which is true. MJ is gone and millions to be had so maybe they are lying now? If they are lying now it's some serious fraud.
these men were abused by their hero. they may have defended michael and then changed their story, but thats not unusual for an abused person to defend their abuser. just like a wife will defend her abusive husband. just because these men are grown doesnt mean they arent traumatized by the life they have lived.
@GoogleLeviticus- liars tell truth and lies. a person caught lying my harm their credibility, but when you are dealing with a person that spend alot of time with a world famous child molestor, then you are going to be dealing with someone who is scarred emotionally. you cant blame him for being messed up, but also you have to remember the filthiness of michael jackson, the man who rubbed his penis a hundred times in your face and in front of the children in the audience and on tv. a man who paid over 20 million dollars to make a molestation charge go away...k
i cant answer the questions you have for them, i only will give people the benefit of doubt. just as most women are believed automatically, until some of them are found out to be false accusers or liars, most people believe their story just because they`re women. why not do the same for men who were abused or claim they were abused? @@tripti877
it's not so normal to go on defence stand and defend your abuser, aged 23, and say you did not know what sex abuse was? and then make an about turn having danced at tribute with Janet Jackson, why because Jackson estate stopped him getting Cirque du Solei job, Wade is narcissist, he lies constantly, he was annoyed at his money being cut off, his family freeloaded off Jackson, and his father was abuse victim, Wade's father killed himself, as they say on Dan Reed french television interview, why not look at family Dan Reed? Why not mention Wade relationship with Michael's niece, for 7 years, Safechuck in debt 300 grand, lied, about years he was abused in train station, look it up? he now claims to have been abused when 16? it keeps changing the story? they kept deleting parts of documentary. And David Geffen, who does not have honest bone in his body, and is majorly resposibe for destroying Jackson's career, in my opinion, funded this documentary.
Do your homework! These men are lying. Changed their story so many times are looking for money. Oprah only cares about her ratings and money. She is disgusting! How terribly sad for real victims that have suffered real abuse. 💔
I'm having a hard time understanding the comments here. How do you not see that it is not normal for an adult to sleep with children? Would you like it if you had kids of your own? M.j was so talented and he sang great songs, he made people happy, but it has to be admitted that he was definitely weird and I would never let my own child in anyone's bed no matter who they are. These people who have grown up today will remember what they lived through every day for the rest of their lives. Everyone who is human and has a sense of empathy would thinks so. Fans may be disappointed for M.j, and I am one of them, but they were innocent CHILDREN for the love of god,so no one should ignore it.
It's not a matter of normalcy, no one is claiming Jackson was a normal huy. The fact of the matter is that their claims are swarmed with hundreds on inconsistencies, evolving stories, attempts to withold evidence, and straight lies. Here's just 1 issue: James Safechuck claims to have been abused from 1988-1992 (until the age of 14), where Jackson traded him out for a new prepubescent boy.. He tells an elaborate story about when their "relationship" began in their "honeymoon stage", Jackson would repeatedly take him to the second floor of the Neverland train station to abuse him. Timestamped Getty Images, Associated Press photos, & various videos prove that construction did not begin until Q4 93 and wasn't actually built until 1994. (2 years after alleged abuse ended)
@@rasheed9705 Oh jeez, you think it matters that he got the year wrong? Do you remember everything from your childhood perfectly down to the year of every event? Every victim and every witness in a case gets something wrong, it's actually normal.
@coldwhitespring5004 I stated a fact, and you brought a theory that James does not claim or stand by. And dates do matter, example.. Safechuck claims he was flown to NYC in 1989 after Michael was there to perform at the Grammys and was molested on the trip. - 89 Grammys were not in NYC, nor did Michael perform or attend. So let's give Safechuck the benefit of the doubt and say he got the date wrong..... Michael performed at the grammys in 88.. - Not only is that months prior to Safechuck the alleged abuse (per the timeline of the grooming process he laid out).. He speaks about that specific trip to NYC in 88 in his case and states that he was not yet permitted in Michaels room and was not "abused" yet.
No I think parents should say to their kids (never mind about them getting hurt or allowing themselves to get hurt) "if a grown up asks you to keep a secret from me and your Father tell us IMMEDIATELY. No matter what no one should ever do that. You never keep secrets from us and that you're not in trouble."
Didn't Jackson's sister actually say, 'what 35-year-old man stays shacked up in a bedroom for 35 days with a young boy.' Can anyone enlighten me about this and the circumstances that this comment took place.
@@Jesus_in_the_Coliseum have you read jury verdict.please read it ..moreover sleeping is not a crime ..I sleep with small babies too who are not related to me and don't give shit about sex ..only people with dirty mind will think that
@@Jesus_in_the_Coliseum court documents and fbi files.please do your research you will understand automatically what has happened exactly .don't fall into media lies..read court transcripts
*The inconsistencies in these guys stories are alarming. please do more research. the train station where James said he was abused wasn't even built yet when he visited the ranch.*
There was another train station there before the other one was built. And of course they do not remember every specific little thing about their childhood. Do you? Can you exactly describe the school you went? Can you describe every place you went when you were 7 years old? Can you name all the activities you did on a specific vacation day when you were 10?
@@TeaCup1940 Well if you don't know what you're talking about how would we believe you were really abused? 🤣🤣🤣 Never heard of liars before? Even family would kill each other for money, and this is all about money.
@@izzyrov5814 That’s you pedo-apologist’s only excuse “it’s fOr mOnEy”. Is it so hard to believe that a loner like him who lived in an abandoned amusement park with other’s people children had such a dark side?
@@TeaCup1940i can remember from 11 they weren’t fucking 5 like come on! Your telling me at 11 you don’t know a grown man touching you is wrong! Cut the crap! Then he said even at 22 he didn’t know he was abused and the train station he mentioned was the one that was built years later not the one that was there prior. He describes the one that was built later. That was the point they were trying to make in their comment
She can't make interviews. A good interviewer let' the other people talk. She s craving so much for attention, like to be the center of attention. This woman is unbelievable. So jealous of Michael Jackson.
anyone with a reasonable mind would know they can never be believed. I don't understand how some people can be so fucking naive. a simple search about the 2 men's history & how much money is at stake for them for u is enough to know its all abt the $$$
@@isthisjustfantasy9996 Oh, wait... the court has Wade’s lying emails to himself now, and his book draft... just waiting for his lying ass to be kicked out of court now.
@@joychuasihan12I know it's hard to believe music you like was made by a pedophile. But that's the reality my guy. You see that video of MJ with that kid Gavin? That's all you should have to see to know there is something seriously wrong there. Time to take your head out of the sand.
He’s just a more convincing liar than Safeschmuck. Tell me, if God forbid, you were being abused by a friend, would you allow that friend to encourage you to develop a friendship and then a romantic and sexual relationship with one of his own family? Wade did, and that’s just one of the reasons he’s a narcissistic scumbag liar.
Oprah MJ allowed you into his house to interviewed him and telling him how great he was with the kids and now sitting here help helping destroying his legacy smfh 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
@@thecat8513 they are lying because they both messed up all the objective facts in their stories regarding what happened. 1 said he was absed in a train-building jackson built for the little train he had on his ranch, guy says it happened at a certain year, facts tell you the train station building wasnt even built for another 2 years. the other guy says similarly objective lie, namely, he went on a "honeymoon" after he "married jackson" to europes disneyland in 1988, when in fact, that disneyland was only opened in 1992. and there are much more other controversies, from wade owning 0 memorablia from jackson when they made the documentary, cause he sold them years earlier due to not being able to find a job after jackson died, or that wades mother was so happy when she heard jackson died cause "now he cant mlest more children", but wade said earlier he told his mom only in 2014 for the first time, that jackson molestd him. so so many illogicality and straight out lies in all of it.
People always think they know these celebrities, it’s so stupid. I don’t care if you love their music, dancing, films or books. Their art is their talent, their way of making money. Some of the most famous brilliant artists have been total creeps and awful human beings. You can also separate the art from the artist. Meaning, if you’re an intelligent and articulate human being you can understand that someone has incredible art yet, they themselves are not a good person, it happens. You can still appreciate their work and not be a fan of them personally. Let’s face it, we don’t know who celebrities truly are. We know what they want us to know. We know and understand what they allow us to see. Who was surprised by the way Michael died? Did you expect that his doctor was knocking him out with an anesthetic that’s only supposed to be used in a hospital setting during surgery? Of course not! Why would you? You don’t know this man and you NEVER did, you knew, loved and admired his art. Don’t confuse the two. Stop being little sycophants, it’s ok to admire the art but you can’t put someone you don’t personally know up on a pedestal, it just defies all logic. I’m in my late 40’s and I grew up with Thriller when it came out. During that time it was different and as a child it was a bit scary and cool. MJ could dance but boy did he get strange throughout the years. Anyone who denies that needs to take off their rose coloured glasses and look at things objectively. At least admit things got weird with his face and look. Why did he put a butt on his chin? He was cute during Thriller … all I’m saying is the only people that know for sure are the people who were in that room at the time when the allegations were made. To go and scream “liar” to potential victims is so wrong. Two statements can be true. Jackson will always be a great artist, no one can take that away from him. He could also have been what many claim him to be, a predator. He could be completely innocent, we weren’t in the room so we’ll never know. Yelling “liar” at potential victims is evil and severely damaging to peoples psyche, be a part of the solution not a part of the problem. Remember, they were CHILDREN when they were victimized and it will take a lifetime for these men to heal.
I understand your point about not knowing somebody but you ruin it by becoming a bully and talking about someone's looks as if it matters at all. Michael gave many many speeches and lectures, that's what I am interested in. He was a humanitarian and gave much to charity. A sychophant implies insincerity. Many people (such as fans) never asked MJ for money, but every single one of his accusers did. Instead of taking him to a criminal trial (there wasn't enough evidence) they took MJ to a civil court and asked for money. Why would a loving parent do that? A few years later he sued his own son for the money and his son admitted nothing happened. Watch the documentary Square One (free online). If you really care, this is all available to research. It takes more effort to research times, dates, and statements, than to watch one TV show or one documentary. This is why there is a defence during a trial - to make it a fair trial and to analyse the facts of the case. Not just watch a one sided documentary and be done with it. Trials take months for a reason. If the world ran by your logic, there would be no fair trial, there would only be the prosecution, because why is it necessary to research? By your logic we just have to look at someone's chin. The same would be true for science, we would all be killed by radioactive radium if it wasn't for real facts and research, and not just looking at "butt chins." We would all still be racist if we follow your logic, and we just judge people on their butt chins and "strangeness." . P.S. read the trial transcript (it's free), and you will see that the mother claimed she tried to "escape on a hot air balloon" at Neverland. Imagine a mother clambering into a hot air balloon with her children, to escape being kidnapped to Mexico. Do you even know how to work a hot air balloon? Not only to light it, but to control it and land it safely, taking into account the weather and the flight path. Apparently she does.
MJ lied on live TV when Diane sawyer asked if there is any other accusations except for Jordan he said quote: No as far as I know. that was obvious lie 🤥 it was Jason Fransia accusation before Jordan and so many other lies if you search you will see.
@@lk4543 Gavin Arvizo took him to a criminal trial and never asked for any money. He's never done any interviews, written a book, or done anything for profit out of this. The Chandlers planned on the criminal trial following their civil suit. Why would a loving parent not want their child to be paid damages to at least cover the psychological help they need after being sexually abused? Evan Chandler did not sue his son and Jordan has never said MJ didn't molest him. That's just false. Do you think Square One is fair and not one-sided? MJ chose to do all the damage to his appearance. It was no one's fault but his own, and then he lied about it. Trying to behave as though he hadn't drastically changed his appearance was ridiculous. He should have just been honest, but he lied throughout his life.
Stop it. People aren’t blindly yelling “liars,” they are saying it based off of huge swarths of evidence strongly suggesting they are lying to get his estate’s money. A far bigger problem is people blanketly yelling “pedophile!” Or “rapist!” Without knowing a single thing about the accusations. That is by far more damaging.
@@ChokeslamToHell Don't just swallow MJ propaganda; research and fact-check. When you do that, and use common sense, you see the supposed evidence that they're lying evaporates into nothing. You weren't there, you don't know what happened. If you want to believe MJ wasn't a child predator, fine. Just don't call potential victims liars.
Zero respect for Oprah's decision to give proven liars a platform and legitimacy to millions of viewers, and contribute to incalculable damage to the memory of one of the world's most generous philanthropists/humanitarians. With unlimited resources at her disposal to sense-check the claims and the character of these two money-grabbers, this interview was just as ridiculously unprofessional as the interview she conducted with Michael Jackson herself in 1993 (without seeming to bother to prep for the interview by reading his book 'Moonwalk' prior to the interview - how many times did MJ comment "Read my book Moonwalk"; and interrogating him vs interviewing him) - Oprah basically victimized Michael Jackson. And after so many facts and so much evidence has been presented absolutely debunking claims made by Robson and Safechuck, the Oprah camp doesn't even add a comment to their site/articles/videos/etc. to the effect that their coverage should have allowed for the possibility of Michael Jackson's innocence? After years of believing Oprah was on the side of victims, the one-sidedness when it comes to her treatment of Michael Jackson makes her part of the problem - perpetuating lies about a man who donated more to charity than she has and was a more hands-on humanitarian than she has been. If MJ was guilty of anything it was of being too trusting of people, too generous, too kind-hearted and too good in general. Even when he had to fight money-motivated lawsuits in court (Gavin Arvizo; maid Adrian McManus; Bianca Francia) and won/was awarded damages or attorney fees, all of the plaintiffs still didn't pay. So these liars were able to throw accusations at a big target with a potentially huge payout, trash an innocent man's reputation, and experience no consequences - complete BS. It wasn't Michael Jackson's nature to retaliate, but would be great if his estate would fight for justice and appropriate punishment to stop the free-for-all trashing of a good man's legacy.
@@tenshiwolfayla yeah everybody lies but the guy who paid a boy 20 fuckin MILLIONS dollars to shut up. very common for a man to be accused of being a huge pedo by sooo many people including his sister th-cam.com/video/05vzUo5q2Ok/w-d-xo.html
No, what’s amazing is how much the media has brainwashed people like you. Please believe REAL victims and not liars. This does nothing to help actual victims of child sex abuse like ME. It’s a disgrace to lie about being abused. That shit is not a joke.
I don't think any sane person would disagree that if this happened it was horrific. My sympathy goes out to anyone in this situation. My biggest problem here is where where were the parents? Why was your child left with Michael? I really wish Michael was innocent, we may never know the truth, but parents leaving their kids alone with a stranger have alot to answer for. They are part of the problem.
He was innocent, if Michael was a pedophile then all of his fans are convicted murderers, but seriously we have the evidence that proves he is innocent, and people manipulated him because of his good nature, look at the way he talks and interacts with everyone, that is not the way of a psychopath or a pedophile.
I wish people would realize how dumb that statement is. He’s not a freaking wizard grooming people by the masses and leaving not a trace of evidence… They are just after his money.
How about somebody do an interview and let's talk about those missing children that went missing from her school she's the biggest abuser of them all they investigated Michael all his life and never found any evidence stating he molested anyone
@Sally Ann shut up, your saying that to everybody else in this entire comment section. Go watch Square One it's for free and it's on this website so there's no excuses.
@@analisaferreiraferreira7918 leave the poor old gal alone! She hasn't got time for friendships! She's busy spitting blood and spreading her hate filled stench all over utube...and she knows loads about liars and paedophiles 😂
and let's not forget the lunatic who was obsessed with Sis Janet and was a threat to MJ. Among many other fans. A bell on the bedroom door indicates he was a pedosexual? I would install a War Alarm in my mansion and bedroom if I was this famous! There are so many creeps out there.
@stok3d99 What's the evidence? They literally went trough the whole Neverland Ranch! And what wade and that other guy said, not true! Michael didn't invite them to Neverland, they called him to go! They did not find ANY proof! And above that I believe he helped the most children in the world! He spent millions if dollars for that!
@stok3d99 and because you are a dumb ass doesn't make it real. He was a wonderful man who wanted to protect child. Just need to watch them together. Find a brain of your own. Especially try not to trust in money predators like wade Robson or people with hidden agendas like OPRAH. She atacks black men. Wonder why. Now, go get a brain.
Guys use your minds. There are lines speaking about this guys that there isn't something right about them. Its all contradicting how they behaved and even the film is contradicting. They testified for Michael, defended and admired him. If a kid was abused -some love their abusers, but - they would feel uncomfortable around them and try to stay away. But Wade gave a tribute later on. Both of them hang around with him very comfortable. The accusation is ridiculous. This film don't give any sign of sorrow, guilt, threat, anxiousness, not even affected self esteem about the 2 'candidates'. Both of them look aside while listening to the other and nod to the lines they actually say. Its obvious it's all made up and they hold back themselves. They just control themselves to appear serious, convincing. Not to mention Wade's career path. He failed and wanted money before too. Another thing is, if they would like to tell us and help people who have ben abused too, why it is so important to make a big film about it if they claim they didn't get any money out of it? If they only want to help us and don't become money, then no need to make a whole film about it. They just could give a simple interview and bye. And im sure they became money, this excuse cannot buy me. Ridiculous.
I can. She's a snake that uses people to boost her show and ego. She's all smiles and kindness on the surface but once the cameras are off She's just a high ranking Hollywood witch
somehow, she's just got this disdain and mission to tarnish Michael Jackson and his legacy. even her interview with MJ in the early 90s was so degrading for MJ.
@@pa5798 I'll never ever ask that clown MJ for forgiveness. He caused all his own problems. You probably feel sorry for him and think he was incapable of anything. Hah! You are SO wrong. Just because he supposedly had a bad childhood doesn't mean he didn't do anything wrong! You are a sad person taking the popstars side. I believe you are doing the wrong thing, my opinion. Don't turn to us when you need special help and counselling when the truth finally gets to you. We tried to help!
RIP Michael Jackson. The greatest humanitarian and artist of all time...💖 I think he loves children and those Mean/Greedy/Bad people use it against him...😍 Its all about Money ... financially motivated accusations ...Tabloids/Media ruined his name .. I think he was INNOCENT ....
My brothers said if they saw one more special friend at Neverland hand me their 🩲 that they would call the 👮♂ but then I quadrupled their allowance tee hee hee. 🤑🤑🤑🤑 Then they said "just kidding!"😅
Both these men came out and admitted they lied. Wow...Oprah so quick to get a story...I didn't know she did this. She owes the Jackson family an apology.
Ambient Music: To make you feel better you’re ridiculous. you believing the media and all these people puts you more in a cult more than i could ever be
Ambient Music: To make you feel better m.th-cam.com/video/vt0kaGfcIcs/w-d-xo.html how about now? She still in a cult?? Look at the deposition, and then rewatch Leaving Neverland. Then, tell me that Wade Robson isn’t lying.
Ambient Music: To make you feel better dude, it’s literally two different versions of his story. So you’re telling me that he’s telling the truth on both accounts?? On one, he said that it started when his family was with him at the ranch, before turning into he was abused after his family left him at the ranch. Which one is it? Also, the judge ruled that he had lied so egregiously under oath that “no rational fact finder would ever believe his story of abuse.”
Ambient Music: To make you feel better read the court transcripts when he first came public with his allegations in 2016 before you reach your own conclusions. All I’m saying, is that there’s more to this story.
So because this “God to you” is dead you are now turning around and saying he did something you had “no concept of” what was happening then? What a sorry excuse for a human being. I am so disgusted by Hollywood. I need to take a shower.
OMG Oprah is such a strong goddess! These two men are so brave,... Indeed MJ groomed the world, and most people still are lost in that fantasy of who he was
I love Michael as an artist and I always thought he was innocent... But I can believe them. They look and talk really real for me. I don't think they are lying.
Mj is proved innocent by FBI by investigating for 10 years ! And guess what there were more evidenced on they were lying ..and this Wade Robson told mj didn’t mollest him during 2003 interview and now these ppl are putting against a dead man who can’t defend himself!
I’m sorry, but these comments are nauseating. We are putting feelings over examination of facts and due process. So many of their claims are provably false and contradicted by their prior statements. People believe Wade Robson? WADE ROBSON!? The guy whose first case against Jackson’s estate for 1.5 billion was thrown out for perjury and attempting to delete emails!? What has this world come to?
Don't turn the page! I don't believe you and you pretend to love him! If you knew him, you would see that he was not capable and did not even have that dirty thought to do something like that. Read MJ's book moonwalk and you will see that he was not capable of such a thing. You will really see what was in his soul.
Michael is and always was INNOCENT!!! These two men should be deeply ashamed of their underhanded lies. "Anything for money" ... disgusting what people do for money - Michael, I love you ... we know you better! You are and always have been love, light, truth - a pure and radiantly bright soul. Too bright for this planet full of darkness - unfortunately. So tragic that Michael wasted his pure love on these people for many years! You did not deserve this in any way. Go and turn to the "real criminals" in this world, whom you protect in your deceitful way! Michael shines and radiates FOREVER - you will soon disappear!! Please god, "Heal the world" from all this evil!!!
How do you know he is innocent? He is innocent because he is talented? Because you like his music? Yes right now it's their word against the words of MJ's family. But it does not make him innocent!
How can she admit that they might be lying but wants to continue this conversation anyway because of what it teaches us about sexual abusers? Um, what? No. If they are lying, and indeed they are… this conversation has NOTHING to do with actual abusers because Michael Jackson wasn’t one. It makes all of his actions unrelated to what an actual abuser would do. This whole show is just a waste of time and a genuine teachable moment. Grow a brain, Oprah.
Did anyone notice when Wade Robson said Michael did nothing his voice sounded normal and now when he is saying Michael did something Wade’s voice is shaky. Pretty sus #waderobsonlying
@@splashenful Wade Robson was not lying to protect him because according to wade, he didn't realize it was abuse and it was wrong until 2013, so which one is it?
Hey guys you're all invited for the party of BILLIE JEAN, one billion views. Thanks for all your help. Thanks to you now we know.Michael Jackson is forever alive. Thanks a lot.
How do you not realize it’s bad if he’s saying to you that you’d get in trouble & go to jail? They are such liars. Wade had his son in 2010 & then in 2011 begged to choreograph the cirque show only to not be chosen & then a year later the allegations come out when he has financial problems. It always comes down to money. Everyone just wanted to us Michael for his money. I’m so glad Michael doesn’t have to see this disgusting showcase of their lies.
Jessica if they only want the money why aren‘t other famous people not accused of sexual abuse? It happend to MJ to many times don‘t you think so? Give me one good reason why.
@@anma8054 Because MJ made the mistake of settling the first one at the advice of his selfish advisors, who didn’t want to upend his 200 million dollar dangerous tour. Once that happened, everyone sued him for everything.
@@ChokeslamToHell what a nonsence. Don’t make MJ a weak victim. Nobody would pay for a crime he/she didn’t commit. If it was that easy a lot of others would be sued.
@@anma8054 Lol are you not aware how many lawsuits are filed in the US every year? It’s a massive business. Plenty of innocent people settle, it often beats the alternative. Look at 2005, MJ didn’t settle and instead faced a 2 year investigation and trial. He was CLEARLY innocent and acquitted, but the stress still nearly killed him and likely contributed to his death. It’s not just some simple process that goes away quickly. That notwithstanding, MJ did later say settling was the biggest mistake of his life because then everyone started suing him for everything. Evan Chandler was behind the 93 allegations, he was the real monster. Kobe Bryant also settled a rape case where the facts make clear he was innocent because he didn’t want to go through everything.
At 12:00 is the perfect question. Remember, Wade was 22 when he defended Michael Jackson in court. He was an adult that should have understood what Oprah was asking him here. He would have absolutely known if he knew he was defending a man that he had a sexual relationship with, wanting to keep it under wraps because he thought it was wrong, or he didn’t think it was wrong which does t align with why he would cover it up and defend him by lying in court. It just doesn’t make any sense any way you cut it, but Wade makes all of that even worse by claiming he didn’t even think about it. That’s near circus-level absurdity and some people on this thread are eating it all up? How dumb can you be and still breathe?
He clearly said that he loved Michael, and only thought he had, was that he have to defend Michael from jail. You call people idiots but you are blind, and you can't protect your own children, living in pink glasses
@@BLTKellys Yeah, but him being more in love with himself is what caused him to lie like this and go after Michael’s estate. The rage of a jealous narcissist. He’s never gotten over Michael’s friendship with Macaulay Culkin and others.
people need to understand mj was victim and biggest target in thw world..they are able to describe grooming very well because of victor Gutierrez book.by the way mj successfully won that lawsuit
Not sure if I remember this correctly but wasn't Wade supposed to choreograph some Michael Jackson show in Vegas through the Michael Jackson estate after he died?? It's like he felt betrayed he received a 'no' and this is payback or something??
Facts Wade was originally hired to work on the MJ show but he dropped out to work on another project. When that project didn't work out he wanted to get his old job back but the producers had gotten somebody to replace him which got Wade mad
If wade and james had seen MJ'S Body with Vitiligo they would've been asking question, why is MJ's body balack and white. Nothing because it Didn't happen.
he was one of the most powerful people on earth... and you can't take advantage of someone dead. No he took advantage of litterally everyone. Even the moms of Robson and Safeshuck, as irresponsible as they might've been were being taken advantage of by Michael Jackson, who bought them out for their sons, with gifts and money and attention and seduced them basically. Especially Robson's mom who desperately wanted a better life... Now those men are willingly ruining their reputations and saying they've been raped. Because they want to heal and it's simply the truth and honestly we need to start talking about those things.
No he hasn’t he’s the one with fame and power and wealth he’s was the one who took advantage. Hosting sleepovers and Sharing a bed with children literally helps no one but his sick sexual desires .
They describe how grooming works so accurately that I can't believe they're making it all up. You can't know what it's like unless you've been through it or have studied it in depth. What really sold it for me is when James Safechuck mentioned that he still felt guilty about coming out and that he was letting Michael down. Most people if they had to come up with a fake sexual abuse story wouldn't act like they still loved their perpetrator and would probably claim that the perpetrator used force or violence because that's how most people think rape happens.
Exactly. They do describe grooming to a t because there's a whole book written about it. Try searching for "Michael Jackson was my lover" by Victor Gutierrez. These guys stories are so similar to it, it's alarming. Oh btw, this documentary has been debunked completely and Oprah has deleted this interview from her website and wants nothing to do with them because their stories are full of lies. Just do me a favour and do some research with an open mind.
Robson literally got caught deleting emails of articles to himself on this subject during discovery in the 2013 trial. The emails were recovered by the host server. The judge ruled Robson had perjured himself, destroyed evidence, and threw out the case. Wade has been studying this stuff since 2012-13. Go watch his interviews from 2013-2015. He’s a different person, monotone and going through the motions. He’s worked on his acting.
The two protagonists, Safechuck and Robson, said they had testified in court at the time that MJ had not molested them because they were obsessed with being able to defend and save him in court. How can you make such a false statement and how can you want to defend someone like that when you have been wronged? They also said that they did not even realize that injustice was being done to them. If you have studied MJ, studied him, his body language, his gestures, his life, his behavior, then you can never believe such accusations. The research takes a lot of time, but you can't judge someone if you haven't walked in their shoes. I took the time for months. I must note that I have never been a fan of MJ and his music, but I despise people's superficialities, which have reached their peak since the existence of social networks. I feel the need to expose injustices. To me, MJ is clearly the victim. His life story is the saddest I have ever heard of...
because they didn't realise it was wrong at the time. And because they LOVED HIM. And also because they were terrified that someone could happen to them if they said anything. Afterall, MJ used emotional blackmail to get both boys to testify, told them exactly what to say, and that if they said different, he would abandon them. This is sooooooooooo common. Psychology has come up with the term "Stockholm Syndrome" for kidnap victims, but the same pathology is just as prevelant in victims domestic violence, child abuse - they are brainwashed. How that is not obvious is beyond me
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it's totally bullshit
Absolutely DID NOT ENJOY THIS FAKE AND HORRIBLE MOVIE. I actually reported this for false information!
Crazyyyy how when Oprah asked if they were to do this when he was alive the Director answered yes ; not them too
I don’t only want a documentary about Weinstien but also about the people who knew about his abuse and kept their mouth shut yeah that’s you OPRAH
What abuse?
right
it will be very difficult to have a weinstein documentary because of the non disclosure agreeements that pretty much everyone that worked with the weinstein company had to sign. the moment say Oprah or whoever goes to interview these people for the evidence and the paperwork- they will get sued. and who wants that. Even with this MJ story there will b a lot coming after them. Since the 1st time Wayens family went to Neverland, they had to sing paperwork, and they even say how scary this was. Nothing had happened yet they were put "en garde" if you divulge anythign that happens here, you will be sued. I mean as a guest, you are probably in shock, then you are subdued, then you probably just go with it as it unfolds.
@@AT-cy7im thats not even true, only robson and safechuck said that they had to sign papers. All other people (and there were many) that visited Neverland, or lived there said there was no such paperwork.
You sound as smart as cement.
Wait - Wasn't Oprah on the Epstein flight log?
Yeah and she was friends with Weinstein
@@scgilly are you implying that makes what MJ did ok?
Im here two years later, to reply shes also on diddy tapes?! @@lyndy101
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wtf oprah! when MJ was alive, he was your friend. now he's dead and he cannot defend himself anymore vs your pronouncements.
Well so were those two idiots who defended him the whole time even under oath COUNTLESSLY. This is all very easy to do now that he's been long gone for quite some time now. It's not about Oprah, she's nothing but a news broadcaster broadcasting the most philatelist stories she can get her hands on, that's all she's ever been. It's about these two idiots who didn't have the balls to do this along with all the kids who did while Michael was still alive to do something about it which is why they have no credibility at all.
she always hated him. He is a legend never to be forgotten. She is nothing when she gets under eart.
@Sally Ann thank God for Michael. That bloody cow as friend? No way
@Sally Ann yes in fact he was always suspicious about her and he was so right. She wanted to be him. He is a legend. She is nothing. Dust in the wind, soon.
he was her friend but she was always a jealous bitch about him. And she laughs out loud about such a sensitive subject. I hate this woman profoundly.
I don't understand why they couldn't answer the best question in this entire interview 48:49
ikr, stupid liars they are
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It's because they are liars
Because they are lieing
After all of Oprah's interactions with the Jackson family over the years, I find it very odd that she chose to present the story in such a definitive way (MJ being guilty of these supposed crimes, without any real proof except for their testimony after his passing). Made me lose a lot of respect for her.
same
Same
That’s money she smells
Michael never trusted her. I never trusted her. If she cared about victims she wouln't make this sweet and humanist a victim of her abuse. Cause saying lies and trying to put someone 's name in the mud, is a grave abuse. She should be jeailed.
Michael himself once said that he saw nothing disturbing in sharing the bed with the boys. It s kinda weird
Both these flops are feeling salty because Michael promised to help them with their careers and left them out for dead because they’re pure opportunists. Their mums are the ones who abused them for forcing them to work as kids.
Dan Reed was real shady using unethical tactics with the film. It was sooo one sided and he didn’t get the facts right
I still haven't told anyone my uncle was abusing me only because the guilt my mom would feel would kill her. She is just too sweet to put her through that. Even though I know what a scumbag my uncle was, I will never tell just for that one & only reason.
You can tell a therapist. I am so sorry it happened to you. I pray you heal soon🙏
I am so so sorry for you, dear one❤
@@Mary-po4ti you're the Version Mary
@gertibell. I understand your reason for not telling, but unfortunately by keeping silent it allowed this abuser to carry on abusing other children.
So what about all the other kids he probably did the same to because nobody told
its all set up.Yyou can see in the body language and faces and the way they tell the story sounds totally rehearsal
Now I wonder, what else is going on in the film and music industry that we the public will never know. Money and power protects them.
Why didn't Oprah have the victims of Harvey Weinstein and John of God on? They are both serving TIME for their crimes. Yet, Oprah allows these 2 PROVEN liars to tell their stories without question. Is this white privilege?
Funny how NONE of Wade Robson's testimony, under OATH, in MJ's criminal trial is even mentioned. How can you ignore in MJ's 2005 criminal trial he stated MJ NEVER touched him? Do you realize it's called PERJURY to lie under oath in a criminal trial, risking going to jail for 5 years or more? The fact he is LYING now for money is the crime. But oddly under oath, he stated MICHAEL JACKSON LOVES WOMEN. And you know how he knows it? Because Wade's own MOTHER pursued MJ. All of the women wanted him and their REVENGE is now coming to. IN fact, MJ had an interest in Jordy Chandler's MOTHER and she was at Neverland when Wade's mother was there and Wade's mother said under oath in 2005 that June Chandler was "bossing around the staff at Neverland and behaved like the mistress of Neverland." 🤣
Michael Jackson INNOCENT
If you wouldn't let a 44 year old share the bed with your child, I don't know why the circumstances change once the 44 year old man is famous?
Right!
@@hailamark2402 innocent? Sure. Anyway, a bit weird for a 44 year old to share beds with little children.
@@hailamark2402 he's not innocent of sleeping in a bed with multiple little boys
@@hailamark2402 that's creepy you keep ignoring the statement about sleeping with boys when MJ said it himself.
This comment thread is full of wack jobs that would allow their children to spend the night with their favorite star - Michael Jackson , so that’s a very naive comment.
Still bewilders me that a man at the peak of his career had the time to spend with these kids .. innocent or not …. And that none of his family/ advisers/ staff advised him that this was not a good idea to have these kids around so much , even on the basis of public perception
Could it be because he didn't spent so much time with them ? At least less that they do declare ? MJ was always surrounded by a lot of people, family and friends, working a lot, with a lot of sollicitations.
@@Nina-px6zi possibly…he should’ve put a stop to the activity after the 1993 allegations for sure
Peds always surround themselves with children. Coaches, priests, Boy Scouts, gymnastics. Look at Nasser. Parents thought they were so lucky to have this man treating their kids injuries.
Finally people are waking up. Ever person defending MJ has children at risk, because they are blinded by celebrity.
The Jackson family is right . They should sue all three.
You all need to be sued for supporting a pedophile who exploited his fame to molest kids.
they won't...mj was guilty....at least la toya thought so also..
@@madiola1234 MJ was investigated by the FBI and Police and found innocent in court. Wade and James said MJ did nothing sexual . So the shady ones are Wade and James. Also Oprah was accused on lying about her childhood sexual abuse and poverty to make her ratings higher. Kitty Kelly's book Oprah.
@@madiola1234 la Toya is sort of the black sheep of the family? That's the thing about sex abuse, you don't need any evidence, you can say anything at anytime for any reason. It is the easiest thing in the world to lie about. Wade and James went from 0 to MJ did everything. So they definitely are lying but which is true. MJ is gone and millions to be had so maybe they are lying now? If they are lying now it's some serious fraud.
@@madiola1234you sound like an idiot they did a 10 year investigation on him and did not find shit they’re money hungry and broke
wade you are talling about lawsuit you sued estate for 1.5 billion dollars if you want justice then sue for 1 dollar
these men were abused by their hero. they may have defended michael and then changed their story, but thats not unusual for an abused person to defend their abuser. just like a wife will defend her abusive husband. just because these men are grown doesnt mean they arent traumatized by the life they have lived.
@GoogleLeviticus- liars tell truth and lies. a person caught lying my harm their credibility, but when you are dealing with a person that spend alot of time with a world famous child molestor, then you are going to be dealing with someone who is scarred emotionally. you cant blame him for being messed up, but also you have to remember the filthiness of michael jackson, the man who rubbed his penis a hundred times in your face and in front of the children in the audience and on tv. a man who paid over 20 million dollars to make a molestation charge go away...k
@healthyamerican you're right about the defending part. But how come so many years of abuse just sum up in a story or two ?
i cant answer the questions you have for them, i only will give people the benefit of doubt. just as most women are believed automatically, until some of them are found out to be false accusers or liars, most people believe their story just because they`re women. why not do the same for men who were abused or claim they were abused? @@tripti877
it's not so normal to go on defence stand and defend your abuser, aged 23, and say you did not know what sex abuse was? and then make an about turn having danced at tribute with Janet Jackson, why because Jackson estate stopped him getting Cirque du Solei job, Wade is narcissist, he lies constantly, he was annoyed at his money being cut off, his family freeloaded off Jackson, and his father was abuse victim, Wade's father killed himself, as they say on Dan Reed french television interview, why not look at family Dan Reed? Why not mention Wade relationship with Michael's niece, for 7 years, Safechuck in debt 300 grand, lied, about years he was abused in train station, look it up? he now claims to have been abused when 16? it keeps changing the story? they kept deleting parts of documentary. And David Geffen, who does not have honest bone in his body, and is majorly resposibe for destroying Jackson's career, in my opinion, funded this documentary.
Do your homework! These men are lying. Changed their story so many times are looking for money. Oprah only cares about her ratings and money. She is disgusting! How terribly sad for real victims that have suffered real abuse. 💔
I'm having a hard time understanding the comments here. How do you not see that it is not normal for an adult to sleep with children? Would you like it if you had kids of your own? M.j was so talented and he sang great songs, he made people happy, but it has to be admitted that he was definitely weird and I would never let my own child in anyone's bed no matter who they are. These people who have grown up today will remember what they lived through every day for the rest of their lives. Everyone who is human and has a sense of empathy would thinks so. Fans may be disappointed for M.j, and I am one of them, but they were innocent CHILDREN for the love of god,so no one should ignore it.
seriously. the amount of mental gymnastics people will do to defend him is crazy to me. none of them would even let their kids near mj.
It's not a matter of normalcy, no one is claiming Jackson was a normal huy. The fact of the matter is that their claims are swarmed with hundreds on inconsistencies, evolving stories, attempts to withold evidence, and straight lies.
Here's just 1 issue:
James Safechuck claims to have been abused from 1988-1992 (until the age of 14), where Jackson traded him out for a new prepubescent boy.. He tells an elaborate story about when their "relationship" began in their "honeymoon stage", Jackson would repeatedly take him to the second floor of the Neverland train station to abuse him.
Timestamped Getty Images, Associated Press photos, & various videos prove that construction did not begin until Q4 93 and wasn't actually built until 1994. (2 years after alleged abuse ended)
Yeah this is just really weird to see. He slept alone in bed with child after child all during his sexual prime. It's like come on people, wake up.
@@rasheed9705 Oh jeez, you think it matters that he got the year wrong? Do you remember everything from your childhood perfectly down to the year of every event? Every victim and every witness in a case gets something wrong, it's actually normal.
@coldwhitespring5004 I stated a fact, and you brought a theory that James does not claim or stand by.
And dates do matter, example.. Safechuck claims he was flown to NYC in 1989 after Michael was there to perform at the Grammys and was molested on the trip.
- 89 Grammys were not in NYC, nor did Michael perform or attend.
So let's give Safechuck the benefit of the doubt and say he got the date wrong..... Michael performed at the grammys in 88..
- Not only is that months prior to Safechuck the alleged abuse (per the timeline of the grooming process he laid out).. He speaks about that specific trip to NYC in 88 in his case and states that he was not yet permitted in Michaels room and was not "abused" yet.
No I think parents should say to their kids (never mind about them getting hurt or allowing themselves to get hurt) "if a grown up asks you to keep a secret from me and your Father tell us IMMEDIATELY. No matter what no one should ever do that. You never keep secrets from us and that you're not in trouble."
Except when the parents are the real lairs themselves.
Oprah is a pedo. These two scumbags are liars.
Some people are actually out here getting sexually abused and you’re sitting here lying about it that is not OK
Didn't Jackson's sister actually say, 'what 35-year-old man stays shacked up in a bedroom for 35 days with a young boy.' Can anyone enlighten me about this and the circumstances that this comment took place.
LaToya said she was in an abusive relationship and that he had forced her to say that about him.
mj is innocent ..after listening to all their lies it helped me to understand mj was always innocent😊
What part helped you normalize 44 year old men sharing beds with infants?
@@Jesus_in_the_Coliseum have you read jury verdict.please read it ..moreover sleeping is not a crime ..I sleep with small babies too who are not related to me and don't give shit about sex ..only people with dirty mind will think that
@@Jesus_in_the_Coliseum Jackson didnt share beds with infants, the f you talking about for real.
@@Jesus_in_the_Coliseum court documents and fbi files.please do your research you will understand automatically what has happened exactly .don't fall into media lies..read court transcripts
Idiot
To be honest, I’m not here to hear their crap and lies. I’m here to see the support on the innocent Michael Jackson
I think everyone is here for that.
we all are
Yes
Holy fuck u are all morons goto hell I’m glad Michael is dead
lol
Imagine worshipping a man who slept with other peoples children every night
Moron
*The inconsistencies in these guys stories are alarming. please do more research. the train station where James said he was abused wasn't even built yet when he visited the ranch.*
There was another train station there before the other one was built. And of course they do not remember every specific little thing about their childhood. Do you? Can you exactly describe the school you went? Can you describe every place you went when you were 7 years old? Can you name all the activities you did on a specific vacation day when you were 10?
Didnt know. Thank you
@@TeaCup1940 Well if you don't know what you're talking about how would we believe you were really abused? 🤣🤣🤣 Never heard of liars before? Even family would kill each other for money, and this is all about money.
@@izzyrov5814 That’s you pedo-apologist’s only excuse “it’s fOr mOnEy”. Is it so hard to believe that a loner like him who lived in an abandoned amusement park with other’s people children had such a dark side?
@@TeaCup1940i can remember from 11 they weren’t fucking 5 like come on! Your telling me at 11 you don’t know a grown man touching you is wrong! Cut the crap! Then he said even at 22 he didn’t know he was abused and the train station he mentioned was the one that was built years later not the one that was there prior. He describes the one that was built later. That was the point they were trying to make in their comment
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I know its full of lies
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She can't make interviews. A good interviewer let' the other people talk. She s craving so much for attention, like to be the center of attention. This woman is unbelievable. So jealous of Michael Jackson.
teresa Pestana full of bull shit!
They claimed the abuse happened on the train and there was no train station at the time ! Liars ! Fools !!
When you still think the lie is real💀bro Michael is the biggest artist they tried everything to ruin his image and it’s STILL happening
I know😢
you really don't understand how childhood abuse and grooming works 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
@@marianav9655 you don’t understand how Michael will forever be innocent.
Sounds like a money grab 🤔
Lmao, here after James’s lawsuit was dismissed for the umpteenth time
Yeah and now they will say Mike's ghost is bribing the court huhh
Fucking liars
anyone with a reasonable mind would know they can never be believed. I don't understand how some people can be so fucking naive. a simple search about the 2 men's history & how much money is at stake for them for u is enough to know its all abt the $$$
@@isthisjustfantasy9996 Oh, wait... the court has Wade’s lying emails to himself now, and his book draft... just waiting for his lying ass to be kicked out of court now.
*_Yeah!! _**_#TeamMJForLife_**_ he is 100% innocent!! He never did that!!_*
@@joychuasihan12I know it's hard to believe music you like was made by a pedophile. But that's the reality my guy. You see that video of MJ with that kid Gavin? That's all you should have to see to know there is something seriously wrong there. Time to take your head out of the sand.
Absolutely DID NOT ENJOY THIS FAKE AND HORRIBLE MOVIE. I actually reported this for false information!
Accuser seifchak has revived abuse lawsuit dismissed 20.10.2020... Don't need words.
THEY'RE BOTH LYING AND OPRAH IS A SNAKE TOO
@@itsjustnaima if they are snake then we are mongoose we'll beat them.
@@ChrizzyYeahh FACTS!!! ❤
Fake news
Oprah should be ashamed of her self
She wasn't the one touching little boys and sleeping with them.
Lolz
For letting people speak about being g abused by a pedo child molester ? You should be ashamed
Of yourself for that comment sicko
Wade seems further along and stronger than James. What do you all think?
Yes, I believe he must have started therapy sooner than James. James looked like he was falling apart back then, he seems stronger now.
He’s just a more convincing liar than Safeschmuck. Tell me, if God forbid, you were being abused by a friend, would you allow that friend to encourage you to develop a friendship and then a romantic and sexual relationship with one of his own family? Wade did, and that’s just one of the reasons he’s a narcissistic scumbag liar.
@@hailamark2402 Do you really think it would go to trial if that was the case?
Oprah MJ allowed you into his house to interviewed him and telling him how great he was with the kids and now sitting here help helping destroying his legacy smfh 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Sad I agree
Girl bye. He destroyed his own legacy. Stop being blind when your eyes are perfectly working.
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icebud I bet you didn’t click the links tho 🤣so i don’t wanna hear your sob story💀
nahmir peppermint lol my comments are getting deleted. Hmmmmmm
These 2 can't fool me. They're lying right through their mouths. It's like shit coming right out. 💯💯
@@thecat8513 they are lying because they both messed up all the objective facts in their stories regarding what happened. 1 said he was absed in a train-building jackson built for the little train he had on his ranch, guy says it happened at a certain year, facts tell you the train station building wasnt even built for another 2 years. the other guy says similarly objective lie, namely, he went on a "honeymoon" after he "married jackson" to europes disneyland in 1988, when in fact, that disneyland was only opened in 1992. and there are much more other controversies, from wade owning 0 memorablia from jackson when they made the documentary, cause he sold them years earlier due to not being able to find a job after jackson died, or that wades mother was so happy when she heard jackson died cause "now he cant mlest more children", but wade said earlier he told his mom only in 2014 for the first time, that jackson molestd him. so so many illogicality and straight out lies in all of it.
#pedofilia jajajajja😂 #oprah
@@goldentop6948 - wow I didn't catch that!
People always think they know these celebrities, it’s so stupid. I don’t care if you love their music, dancing, films or books. Their art is their talent, their way of making money. Some of the most famous brilliant artists have been total creeps and awful human beings. You can also separate the art from the artist. Meaning, if you’re an intelligent and articulate human being you can understand that someone has incredible art yet, they themselves are not a good person, it happens. You can still appreciate their work and not be a fan of them personally. Let’s face it, we don’t know who celebrities truly are. We know what they want us to know. We know and understand what they allow us to see. Who was surprised by the way Michael died? Did you expect that his doctor was knocking him out with an anesthetic that’s only supposed to be used in a hospital setting during surgery? Of course not! Why would you? You don’t know this man and you NEVER did, you knew, loved and admired his art. Don’t confuse the two. Stop being little sycophants, it’s ok to admire the art but you can’t put someone you don’t personally know up on a pedestal, it just defies all logic. I’m in my late 40’s and I grew up with Thriller when it came out. During that time it was different and as a child it was a bit scary and cool. MJ could dance but boy did he get strange throughout the years. Anyone who denies that needs to take off their rose coloured glasses and look at things objectively. At least admit things got weird with his face and look. Why did he put a butt on his chin? He was cute during Thriller … all I’m saying is the only people that know for sure are the people who were in that room at the time when the allegations were made. To go and scream “liar” to potential victims is so wrong. Two statements can be true. Jackson will always be a great artist, no one can take that away from him. He could also have been what many claim him to be, a predator. He could be completely innocent, we weren’t in the room so we’ll never know. Yelling “liar” at potential victims is evil and severely damaging to peoples psyche, be a part of the solution not a part of the problem. Remember, they were CHILDREN when they were victimized and it will take a lifetime for these men to heal.
I understand your point about not knowing somebody but you ruin it by becoming a bully and talking about someone's looks as if it matters at all. Michael gave many many speeches and lectures, that's what I am interested in. He was a humanitarian and gave much to charity. A sychophant implies insincerity. Many people (such as fans) never asked MJ for money, but every single one of his accusers did. Instead of taking him to a criminal trial (there wasn't enough evidence) they took MJ to a civil court and asked for money. Why would a loving parent do that? A few years later he sued his own son for the money and his son admitted nothing happened. Watch the documentary Square One (free online). If you really care, this is all available to research. It takes more effort to research times, dates, and statements, than to watch one TV show or one documentary. This is why there is a defence during a trial - to make it a fair trial and to analyse the facts of the case. Not just watch a one sided documentary and be done with it. Trials take months for a reason. If the world ran by your logic, there would be no fair trial, there would only be the prosecution, because why is it necessary to research? By your logic we just have to look at someone's chin. The same would be true for science, we would all be killed by radioactive radium if it wasn't for real facts and research, and not just looking at "butt chins." We would all still be racist if we follow your logic, and we just judge people on their butt chins and "strangeness." . P.S. read the trial transcript (it's free), and you will see that the mother claimed she tried to "escape on a hot air balloon" at Neverland. Imagine a mother clambering into a hot air balloon with her children, to escape being kidnapped to Mexico. Do you even know how to work a hot air balloon? Not only to light it, but to control it and land it safely, taking into account the weather and the flight path. Apparently she does.
MJ lied on live TV when Diane sawyer asked if there is any other accusations except for Jordan he said quote: No as far as I know. that was obvious lie 🤥 it was Jason Fransia accusation before Jordan and so many other lies if you search you will see.
@@lk4543 Gavin Arvizo took him to a criminal trial and never asked for any money. He's never done any interviews, written a book, or done anything for profit out of this. The Chandlers planned on the criminal trial following their civil suit. Why would a loving parent not want their child to be paid damages to at least cover the psychological help they need after being sexually abused? Evan Chandler did not sue his son and Jordan has never said MJ didn't molest him. That's just false. Do you think Square One is fair and not one-sided?
MJ chose to do all the damage to his appearance. It was no one's fault but his own, and then he lied about it. Trying to behave as though he hadn't drastically changed his appearance was ridiculous. He should have just been honest, but he lied throughout his life.
Stop it. People aren’t blindly yelling “liars,” they are saying it based off of huge swarths of evidence strongly suggesting they are lying to get his estate’s money. A far bigger problem is people blanketly yelling “pedophile!” Or “rapist!” Without knowing a single thing about the accusations. That is by far more damaging.
@@ChokeslamToHell Don't just swallow MJ propaganda; research and fact-check. When you do that, and use common sense, you see the supposed evidence that they're lying evaporates into nothing.
You weren't there, you don't know what happened. If you want to believe MJ wasn't a child predator, fine. Just don't call potential victims liars.
Why did you refuse RazB when he wanted to expose Chris Stokes?
He didn't know it was abuse until he learned the importance of money and the benefit he would have if he could sucessfully sue Michael.
That still doesn’t take away from the abuse itself. The abuser is not innocent.
@@revekat2053 there is no abuser 😂 watch Square One
michael innocent oprah is not
Oprah betrayed Michael Jackson. How could she do this after they made that Oprah special years earlier?
Betrayed? Lol they weren’t friends. They did one special. She doesn’t owe anyone to worship and adore them. She has the right to have her own opinion.
She’s a media person, duh
Zero respect for Oprah's decision to give proven liars a platform and legitimacy to millions of viewers, and contribute to incalculable damage to the memory of one of the world's most generous philanthropists/humanitarians. With unlimited resources at her disposal to sense-check the claims and the character of these two money-grabbers, this interview was just as ridiculously unprofessional as the interview she conducted with Michael Jackson herself in 1993 (without seeming to bother to prep for the interview by reading his book 'Moonwalk' prior to the interview - how many times did MJ comment "Read my book Moonwalk"; and interrogating him vs interviewing him) - Oprah basically victimized Michael Jackson. And after so many facts and so much evidence has been presented absolutely debunking claims made by Robson and Safechuck, the Oprah camp doesn't even add a comment to their site/articles/videos/etc. to the effect that their coverage should have allowed for the possibility of Michael Jackson's innocence? After years of believing Oprah was on the side of victims, the one-sidedness when it comes to her treatment of Michael Jackson makes her part of the problem - perpetuating lies about a man who donated more to charity than she has and was a more hands-on humanitarian than she has been. If MJ was guilty of anything it was of being too trusting of people, too generous, too kind-hearted and too good in general. Even when he had to fight money-motivated lawsuits in court (Gavin Arvizo; maid Adrian McManus; Bianca Francia) and won/was awarded damages or attorney fees, all of the plaintiffs still didn't pay. So these liars were able to throw accusations at a big target with a potentially huge payout, trash an innocent man's reputation, and experience no consequences - complete BS. It wasn't Michael Jackson's nature to retaliate, but would be great if his estate would fight for justice and appropriate punishment to stop the free-for-all trashing of a good man's legacy.
i believe michael is innocent
i don't www.dailywire.com/news/walsh-jackson-matt-walsh
@@nomos6508 stfu
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Their claims would be fine but they aren’t due to them not being credible
I just hope that once day Wade will find the brave to say about lying.....
don't expect so much from a lyer. It only shows that Michael keeps relevant, after all these years.
But it seems that michael actually did with boys.
Reading these comments, it’s amazing how far this man’s grooming skills reached, and reach.
No, what’s amazing is how much the media has brainwashed people like you. Please believe REAL victims and not liars. This does nothing to help actual victims of child sex abuse like ME. It’s a disgrace to lie about being abused. That shit is not a joke.
Yes! Exactly. He was a master groomer, who blinded everyone.
@@801baby well said 👍
@@pinchofsalt4566 not true
@@pinchofsalt4566 answer this why is there no proven not one thing even fbi search on mj for years they even got dna from mj bed and found nothing
well, at least MJ is not around to see this Hollywood bullshit
I don't think any sane person would disagree that if this happened it was horrific. My sympathy goes out to anyone in this situation. My biggest problem here is where where were the parents? Why was your child left with Michael? I really wish Michael was innocent, we may never know the truth, but parents leaving their kids alone with a stranger have alot to answer for. They are part of the problem.
He was innocent, if Michael was a pedophile then all of his fans are convicted murderers, but seriously we have the evidence that proves he is innocent, and people manipulated him because of his good nature, look at the way he talks and interacts with everyone, that is not the way of a psychopath or a pedophile.
Predators groom the parents too. They gain the parents trust first.
Rene graham from Boston globe: "he groomed these kids, groomed their parents but he also groomed his fans." She was a life long Michael Jackson fan.
Dan Reed groomed many people with his background music, imagery, and heavy editing/scripting.
oh yeah , sure she was.
@sallydoyle6673 👏👏👏
I wish people would realize how dumb that statement is. He’s not a freaking wizard grooming people by the masses and leaving not a trace of evidence… They are just after his money.
“Even this documentary is not about Michael” but we are gonna use the name of Michael to have more propaganda yeah yeah
How about somebody do an interview and let's talk about those missing children that went missing from her school she's the biggest abuser of them all they investigated Michael all his life and never found any evidence stating he molested anyone
imfao this man is deleting comments 😂😂😂🤣
@Sally Ann shut up, your saying that to everybody else in this entire comment section. Go watch Square One it's for free and it's on this website so there's no excuses.
they can all go to hell🥱rip THE KING, michael jackson aka applehead❤️
He is so weak and money seeking
@Sally Ann for christ sake. we can be frieends now you know. Obviously Michael is too strong for you all liars. We can be friends. Lol
@@analisaferreiraferreira7918 leave the poor old gal alone! She hasn't got time for friendships! She's busy spitting blood and spreading her hate filled stench all over utube...and she knows loads about liars and paedophiles 😂
wade robson seems so unhealthily obsessed with michael. john lennon was shot and killed by one of his biggest fans. this is wades way.
Same happened with Björk, one of her fans tried to kill her with a toxic bomb on mailbox
Yes he’s so creepy
and let's not forget the lunatic who was obsessed with Sis Janet and was a threat to MJ. Among many other fans. A bell on the bedroom door indicates he was a pedosexual? I would install a War Alarm in my mansion and bedroom if I was this famous! There are so many creeps out there.
Facts don't lie. People do
Just becous you read it in a magazine or see it on a tv screen don't factual.
In fact, it's always the opposite.
@stok3d99 And it doesn't make him a liar just becous you think he is!
@stok3d99 What's the evidence? They literally went trough the whole Neverland Ranch! And what wade and that other guy said, not true! Michael didn't invite them to Neverland, they called him to go! They did not find ANY proof! And above that I believe he helped the most children in the world! He spent millions if dollars for that!
@stok3d99 and because you are a dumb ass doesn't make it real. He was a wonderful man who wanted to protect child. Just need to watch them together. Find a brain of your own. Especially try not to trust in money predators like wade Robson or people with hidden agendas like OPRAH. She atacks black men. Wonder why. Now, go get a brain.
@stok3d99 I know
Oprah .. I can say that your end has begun because your downfall has already come
she's so dumb
She seems to be doing just fine, two years later.
"Forever tied, my name they cling;
Obsession's grip, an eternal ring."
A line from The Triumph, I read on a page. That's what it is .
Guys use your minds.
There are lines speaking about this guys that there isn't something right about them. Its all contradicting how they behaved and even the film is contradicting. They testified for Michael, defended and admired him. If a kid was abused -some love their abusers, but - they would feel uncomfortable around them and try to stay away. But Wade gave a tribute later on. Both of them hang around with him very comfortable.
The accusation is ridiculous.
This film don't give any sign of sorrow, guilt, threat, anxiousness, not even affected self esteem about the 2 'candidates'. Both of them look aside while listening to the other and nod to the lines they actually say. Its obvious it's all made up and they hold back themselves. They just control themselves to appear serious, convincing.
Not to mention Wade's career path. He failed and wanted money before too.
Another thing is, if they would like to tell us and help people who have ben abused too, why it is so important to make a big film about it if they claim they didn't get any money out of it? If they only want to help us and don't become money, then no need to make a whole film about it. They just could give a simple interview and bye.
And im sure they became money, this excuse cannot buy me.
Ridiculous.
I hate this guy Dan everyone should be able to speak out not right michael is gone it's only money they want day really opera you are evel they lied
Please watch the video about the real wade robson story. It will show you the other side. Do your research!!!!! Rest In Peace Mike
It sounds like he is faking his voice
Michael Jackson faked his voice
Exactly !!!! Which strongly makes me feel why he is lying through his teeth
@@d.almeida3633 And what about La Toya? His own flesh and blood? Was she lying through her teeth in ‘93?
I can't believe Oprah did this🤨
I can. She's a snake that uses people to boost her show and ego. She's all smiles and kindness on the surface but once the cameras are off She's just a high ranking Hollywood witch
oh yeah she has a whole history of that typa shit. oprah is A MESS
What she do?
Oprah is an opportunist
somehow, she's just got this disdain and mission to tarnish Michael Jackson and his legacy. even her interview with MJ in the early 90s was so degrading for MJ.
One day, the world’s gonna pay for what they did to this man. One day.
AMEN
Don’t worry they will
@@pa5798 One day you will all do and be asking Wade and James for forgiveness!
@@meandi5956 Never gonna happen actually you’ll be asking Michael for forgiveness😌
@@pa5798 I'll never ever ask that clown MJ for forgiveness. He caused all his own problems. You probably feel sorry for him and think he was incapable of anything. Hah! You are SO wrong. Just because he supposedly had a bad childhood doesn't mean he didn't do anything wrong! You are a sad person taking the popstars side. I believe you are doing the wrong thing, my opinion.
Don't turn to us when you need special help and counselling when the truth finally gets to you. We tried to help!
RIP Michael Jackson. The greatest humanitarian and artist of all time...💖
I think he loves children and those Mean/Greedy/Bad people use it against him...😍
Its all about Money ... financially motivated accusations ...Tabloids/Media ruined his name ..
I think he was INNOCENT ....
These 2 guys were telling the truth!
I agree 100%.
Of course they were, look what's happening today with Epstein, Diddy, and many others, they are all predators.
@@HarryBondInc please, they are clear scammers. Please don’t let people influence you with propaganda.
I'm glade mj family are speaking out
My brothers said if they saw one more special friend at Neverland hand me their 🩲 that they would call the 👮♂ but then I quadrupled their allowance tee hee hee. 🤑🤑🤑🤑 Then they said "just kidding!"😅
Both these men came out and admitted they lied. Wow...Oprah so quick to get a story...I didn't know she did this. She owes the Jackson family an apology.
they never came out and detrated anything, you liar.
No they didn’t
LIARS
Apparently some of y'all don't understand the words "NOT GUILTY" stop talking shit about MJ and stop believing everything you hear😒
His suit was dropped because of status of limitations. Watch the documentary.
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i hope that everyone knows that this is bs. do your research. michael has been and always will be innocent. in the replies are some helpful links
Ambient Music: To make you feel better you’re ridiculous. you believing the media and all these people puts you more in a cult more than i could ever be
www.mjinnocent.com
www.themichaeljacksoninnocentproject.com
Ambient Music: To make you feel better m.th-cam.com/video/vt0kaGfcIcs/w-d-xo.html how about now? She still in a cult?? Look at the deposition, and then rewatch Leaving Neverland. Then, tell me that Wade Robson isn’t lying.
Ambient Music: To make you feel better dude, it’s literally two different versions of his story. So you’re telling me that he’s telling the truth on both accounts?? On one, he said that it started when his family was with him at the ranch, before turning into he was abused after his family left him at the ranch. Which one is it? Also, the judge ruled that he had lied so egregiously under oath that “no rational fact finder would ever believe his story of abuse.”
Ambient Music: To make you feel better read the court transcripts when he first came public with his allegations in 2016 before you reach your own conclusions. All I’m saying, is that there’s more to this story.
I don’t believe a word from this people
That's great that you cant relate. You are blessed.
YES!!!
From this people? That makes sense to me
Try to learn more about the nature of trauma. Maybe you will come to a more nuanced conclusion then.
So because this “God to you” is dead you are now turning around and saying he did something you had “no concept of” what was happening then? What a sorry excuse for a human being. I am so disgusted by Hollywood. I need to take a shower.
Oh, Oprah..you want money, too..
OMG Oprah is such a strong goddess! These two men are so brave,... Indeed MJ groomed the world, and most people still are lost in that fantasy of who he was
I love Michael as an artist and I always thought he was innocent... But I can believe them. They look and talk really real for me. I don't think they are lying.
Mj is proved innocent by FBI by investigating for 10 years ! And guess what there were more evidenced on they were lying ..and this Wade Robson told mj didn’t mollest him during 2003 interview and now these ppl are putting against a dead man who can’t defend himself!
I’m sorry, but these comments are nauseating. We are putting feelings over examination of facts and due process. So many of their claims are provably false and contradicted by their prior statements. People believe Wade Robson? WADE ROBSON!? The guy whose first case against Jackson’s estate for 1.5 billion was thrown out for perjury and attempting to delete emails!? What has this world come to?
80proved lies in Leaving Neverland, most of their lies being exposed by Michael's biographers.
Don't turn the page!
I don't believe you and you pretend to love him!
If you knew him, you would see that he was not capable and did not even have that dirty thought to do something like that.
Read MJ's book moonwalk and you will see that he was not capable of such a thing. You will really see what was in his soul.
@@asher2814
FBI found naked kid pics.
Michael is and always was INNOCENT!!!
These two men should be deeply ashamed of their underhanded lies. "Anything for money" ... disgusting what people do for money - Michael, I love you ... we know you better! You are and always have been love, light, truth - a pure and radiantly bright soul. Too bright for this planet full of darkness - unfortunately.
So tragic that Michael wasted his pure love on these people for many years! You did not deserve this in any way.
Go and turn to the "real criminals" in this world, whom you protect in your deceitful way!
Michael shines and radiates FOREVER - you will soon disappear!! Please god, "Heal the world" from all this evil!!!
I used to believe he didn’t. But Micheal did it’s actually very obvious.
How do you know he is innocent? He is innocent because he is talented? Because you like his music? Yes right now it's their word against the words of MJ's family. But it does not make him innocent!
How can she admit that they might be lying but wants to continue this conversation anyway because of what it teaches us about sexual abusers? Um, what? No. If they are lying, and indeed they are… this conversation has NOTHING to do with actual abusers because Michael Jackson wasn’t one. It makes all of his actions unrelated to what an actual abuser would do. This whole show is just a waste of time and a genuine teachable moment. Grow a brain, Oprah.
Oprah just wants to cash in while knowing that MJ is innocent hahaha
Billie Jean: 782 million views
Alexandra Gomes, that s a lot. We don t need more.
@@manualmeida8197 it s good
1B pls
What does his music to do with that? Shm..
@@giannamccord 803 millions by now, actually.
Lying mj was innocent
and Oprah was invited to Neverland as a friend
These men cant answer of these questions! They simply cant.
I dont know why but they really seem like they are lying. I dont know what oprah is doing here.
Did anyone notice when Wade Robson said Michael did nothing his voice sounded normal and now when he is saying Michael did something Wade’s voice is shaky. Pretty sus #waderobsonlying
You could argue that either way. Either he's emotional because he's telling a lie, or he's emotional because he's telling a traumatic truth.
@@danielwalley6554 well Michael was proven innocent on his case for the last time and it was the final court case. So he is 10000% innocent period
@@Moethical Largely because of Wade Robson lying to protect him, don't forget.
Also notice how their us no proof that he did molest them lmao
@@splashenful Wade Robson was not lying to protect him because according to wade, he didn't realize it was abuse and it was wrong until 2013, so which one is it?
Hey guys you're all invited for the party of BILLIE JEAN, one billion views. Thanks for all your help. Thanks to you now we know.Michael Jackson is forever alive. Thanks a lot.
Forever a pedo
How do you not realize it’s bad if he’s saying to you that you’d get in trouble & go to jail? They are such liars. Wade had his son in 2010 & then in 2011 begged to choreograph the cirque show only to not be chosen & then a year later the allegations come out when he has financial problems. It always comes down to money. Everyone just wanted to us Michael for his money. I’m so glad Michael doesn’t have to see this disgusting showcase of their lies.
Jessica if they only want the money why aren‘t other famous people not accused of sexual abuse? It happend to MJ to many times don‘t you think so? Give me one good reason why.
@@anma8054 copy cat, jumping on a band wagon he had 50 paternity lawsuits a year too.
@@anma8054 Because MJ made the mistake of settling the first one at the advice of his selfish advisors, who didn’t want to upend his 200 million dollar dangerous tour. Once that happened, everyone sued him for everything.
@@ChokeslamToHell what a nonsence. Don’t make MJ a weak victim. Nobody would pay for a crime he/she didn’t commit. If it was that easy a lot of others would be sued.
@@anma8054 Lol are you not aware how many lawsuits are filed in the US every year? It’s a massive business. Plenty of innocent people settle, it often beats the alternative. Look at 2005, MJ didn’t settle and instead faced a 2 year investigation and trial. He was CLEARLY innocent and acquitted, but the stress still nearly killed him and likely contributed to his death. It’s not just some simple process that goes away quickly. That notwithstanding, MJ did later say settling was the biggest mistake of his life because then everyone started suing him for everything. Evan Chandler was behind the 93 allegations, he was the real monster.
Kobe Bryant also settled a rape case where the facts make clear he was innocent because he didn’t want to go through everything.
Any sane person knows Michael was GUILTY
At 12:00 is the perfect question. Remember, Wade was 22 when he defended Michael Jackson in court. He was an adult that should have understood what Oprah was asking him here. He would have absolutely known if he knew he was defending a man that he had a sexual relationship with, wanting to keep it under wraps because he thought it was wrong, or he didn’t think it was wrong which does t align with why he would cover it up and defend him by lying in court. It just doesn’t make any sense any way you cut it, but Wade makes all of that even worse by claiming he didn’t even think about it. That’s near circus-level absurdity and some people on this thread are eating it all up? How dumb can you be and still breathe?
He clearly said that he loved Michael, and only thought he had, was that he have to defend Michael from jail. You call people idiots but you are blind, and you can't protect your own children, living in pink glasses
He was in love with Michael that’s why he defended him for years.
@@BLTKellys Yeah, but him being more in love with himself is what caused him to lie like this and go after Michael’s estate. The rage of a jealous narcissist. He’s never gotten over Michael’s friendship with Macaulay Culkin and others.
@@GilbertGTV no. He was groomed by the narcissism of Michael Jackson
@@BLTKellysand do you believe that? OMG
Do some research about Wade and this documentary, please
Anyone who believes them are weak.... unlike wades relationship with micheals niece that jackson himself was the wingman
Wonder why she didn't do a show like this when it came to her best mate, Harvey Weinstein.....
She's a hypocrite. She later tried to make a Russell Simmons sexual abuse documentary 🙄
people need to understand mj was victim and biggest target in thw world..they are able to describe grooming very well because of victor Gutierrez book.by the way mj successfully won that lawsuit
This man is lying and only wants money
I just can’t believe Michael did this. I just can’t. I just love him sooo much
Wade has been sude by mj estate ah ha Wade has to pay 70 000 dollers
Not sure if I remember this correctly but wasn't Wade supposed to choreograph some Michael Jackson show in Vegas through the Michael Jackson estate after he died?? It's like he felt betrayed he received a 'no' and this is payback or something??
Facts Wade was originally hired to work on the MJ show but he dropped out to work on another project. When that project didn't work out he wanted to get his old job back but the producers had gotten somebody to replace him which got Wade mad
Bingo
You can't be serious. This is sycophancy.
If wade and james had seen MJ'S Body with Vitiligo they would've been asking question, why is MJ's body balack and white. Nothing because it Didn't happen.
I didn't watch this and I haven't watched any video afer you betrayed Michael Jackson. I will never look at your acts again ever.
He's been taken advantage of his whole life. And during his death too!
he was one of the most powerful people on earth... and you can't take advantage of someone dead. No he took advantage of litterally everyone. Even the moms of Robson and Safeshuck, as irresponsible as they might've been were being taken advantage of by Michael Jackson, who bought them out for their sons, with gifts and money and attention and seduced them basically. Especially Robson's mom who desperately wanted a better life...
Now those men are willingly ruining their reputations and saying they've been raped. Because they want to heal and it's simply the truth and honestly we need to start talking about those things.
No he hasn’t he’s the one with fame and power and wealth he’s was the one who took advantage. Hosting sleepovers and Sharing a bed with children literally helps no one but his sick sexual desires .
You can just tell they're lying by the faces they're making and the fact that they can't answer the question.
Wade looked jealous when James said Michael proposed to him
WATCH SQURE ONE and LOVING NEVERLAND Both great documentaries with facts
They describe how grooming works so accurately that I can't believe they're making it all up. You can't know what it's like unless you've been through it or have studied it in depth. What really sold it for me is when James Safechuck mentioned that he still felt guilty about coming out and that he was letting Michael down. Most people if they had to come up with a fake sexual abuse story wouldn't act like they still loved their perpetrator and would probably claim that the perpetrator used force or violence because that's how most people think rape happens.
Exactly. They do describe grooming to a t because there's a whole book written about it. Try searching for "Michael Jackson was my lover" by Victor Gutierrez. These guys stories are so similar to it, it's alarming.
Oh btw, this documentary has been debunked completely and Oprah has deleted this interview from her website and wants nothing to do with them because their stories are full of lies. Just do me a favour and do some research with an open mind.
Robson literally got caught deleting emails of articles to himself on this subject during discovery in the 2013 trial. The emails were recovered by the host server. The judge ruled Robson had perjured himself, destroyed evidence, and threw out the case. Wade has been studying this stuff since 2012-13. Go watch his interviews from 2013-2015. He’s a different person, monotone and going through the motions. He’s worked on his acting.
That is ludicrous. It's not hard researching this topic and creating a script around it. It's how movies are made as well, you know.
They were not abused at all and they are liars!
@@nunyabiznes6243 victor who appeared to be a pedophile ?😂😂😂
The two protagonists, Safechuck and Robson, said they had testified in court at the time that MJ had not molested them because they were obsessed with being able to defend and save him in court. How can you make such a false statement and how can you want to defend someone like that when you have been wronged? They also said that they did not even realize that injustice was being done to them. If you have studied MJ, studied him, his body language, his gestures, his life, his behavior, then you can never believe such accusations. The research takes a lot of time, but you can't judge someone if you haven't walked in their shoes. I took the time for months. I must note that I have never been a fan of MJ and his music, but I despise people's superficialities, which have reached their peak since the existence of social networks. I feel the need to expose injustices. To me, MJ is clearly the victim. His life story is the saddest I have ever heard of...
Did you listen to what thry said ..they did not feel abused ..noone is this great a liar ..come on
"how can you want to defend someone like that when you have been wronged?"
You can't be serious.
because they didn't realise it was wrong at the time. And because they LOVED HIM. And also because they were terrified that someone could happen to them if they said anything. Afterall, MJ used emotional blackmail to get both boys to testify, told them exactly what to say, and that if they said different, he would abandon them.
This is sooooooooooo common. Psychology has come up with the term "Stockholm Syndrome" for kidnap victims, but the same pathology is just as prevelant in victims domestic violence, child abuse - they are brainwashed. How that is not obvious is beyond me