These two individuals are wanting money. It’s clear they were not abused. It’s disgusting to think they want money when the man is passed and can’t defend himself. Testimony is not evidence. Their story has so many holes in it. Surely it would be thrown out of court.
@@eugenavram7432 yeah, I mean… nothing is as waterproof as a case of an incident where the accused person is dead for years and where there is no evidence. Next to the fact that the whole MJ-Fans will hate you and no one will believe you. This isn‘t something a person would do out of greed.
I’m not a fan of piers Morgan, but he is spot on here. He is right to question the doc. No one who wasn’t there for sure can really know. Piers is stating this fact but DR is so dismissive of it just to not discredit his work. This is even taken further when he throws safechuck under the bus for getting the timelines wrong regarding the train station even though Safechuck signed legal papers stating they were accurate.
Piers only found it to be "weird" and "disturbing" that an adult slept in bed with children. It goes beyond that. No parent who protects their children would allow that to happen in any situation and/or capacity.
@LeLouvre634 I'm not talking about legalities. I'm talking about morality and parental obligation to protect your child. That is the duty of a parent. It's disturbing that you make an argument for that purpose.
So let me get this straight. He didn’t interview staff from neverland, didn’t interview anyone from the Jackson team, didn’t find any new tangible evidence that wasn’t presented in court already, presented timeline errors in the documentary (which will get picked apart in court), dismisses the financial incentive completely as “seeking justice”. I mean, how is this doc taken seriously by anybody? The victims can choose to ask for however much money they want. If they were suing only to recoup their legal fees, I’d be more inclined to buy their narrative. Yet they’re seeking hundreds of millions.
I am not sure for how much, but some places it is quoted as more than one billion. I wish this information was given in this interview. But one thing for sure is, all people who mooch other people act as someone owes them something, MJ's estate is the money MJ earned throughout his life through his work, actually, his whole life was devoted to music.
@@Lili-is4xfif Michael's estate wasn't worth billions, Wade and James won't even think of coming up with a story to sue the estate, the way they keep amending their lawsuit in a way just to get the estate to settle, in fact if you read their current claims now it's like it was the estate that abused them and not Michael any more. The desperation is real
Not an mj fan but it’s not easy to find evidence about mj abuse but it’s easy to find the “victims” lying. "In 'Leaving Neverland,' James Safechuck claims he was abused from 1988 to 1992. In the documentary, he alleges abuse at a train station. The problem with that is the construction of the station started in 1993 and finished in 1994. If the abuse took place at the train station, James would have been 16, clearly not fitting the typical age of victims of MJ." But all the alleged crimes are so easy to prove false.
"Not an mj fan but it’s not easy to find evidence about mj abuse but it’s easy to find the “victims” lying." Because his sycophants operate a sprawling propaganda machine.
Am I the only one who finds it weird that nowadays so many artists are trying to steal the "King of pop" title, that’s why the media is tarnishing his legacy, sometimes I even think that many artists are behind this not only Dan Reed, they want to burry his legacy they can’t except the fact that this man is GOAT!
I have PTSD and I never forget or mistake any of my trauma. But look at Safechuck, he said he was raped in the train station when the building wasn't there. I also don't think Lisa Marie would've married him if he was
He also said he would not testify, he was not allowed to by the judge. But he gave a a sworn deposition to the police and FBI. He also said he had a Honeymoon in Euro Disney years before it was built.
Correct the train station was not even built then. Its pure lies. MJ never did anything. Its just one of the numerous lies in this mockumentary. Two broke individuals who need desperate money. Its a pure money grab.
So where is the evidence? Bring just one piece of evidence apart from the words of 2 people and their immediate families. There has to be something if they've been abused hundreds of times by the same person as they claim. How is it possible to be abused hundreds of times and your mother is on the same property, and she never observes anything about you? ... maybe your demeanour changing, your mood, something ... They should have had some proof in all that time.
moreover fbi and police investigated for 10 years ..they could not find any evidence and what did this bald guy found out which entire court system,police could not find..
The two protagonists, Safechuck and Robson, said they had testified in court at the time that MJ had not molested them because they were obsessed with being able to defend and save him in court. How can you make such a false statement and how can you want to defend someone like that when you have been wronged? They also said that they did not even realize that injustice was being done to them. If you have studied MJ, studied him, his body language, his gestures, his life, his behavior, then you can never believe such accusations. The research takes a lot of time, but you can't judge someone if you haven't walked in their shoes. I took the time for months. I must note that I have never been a fan of MJ and his music, but I despise people's superficialities, which have reached their peak since the existence of social networks. I feel the need to expose injustices. To me, MJ is clearly the victim. His life story is the saddest I have ever heard of...
it doesn't matter how much you've "studied him." you did not and will not ever know him as these men did. you've merely formed a parasocial relationship with him---tricked yourself into thinking you know him when really, you just know his public image. and this is exactly what happened with the parents of the children he abused too. they didn't think they were letting their boys sleep in a "stranger's" bed because he wasn't a stranger, he was MJ! they'd all seen him on their TVs therefore OF COURSE they knew him! he's just a boy who never grew up even tho he was actually like 40 years old!! come on. he groomed the public and he groomed you too.
"How can you make such a false statement and how can you want to defend someone like that when you have been wronged?" Why do Jackson sycophants pose this ad nauseum? Is it naivete or obtuseness?
This director rang michaels staff member and she only had nice things to say so he told her they cant use her as it "goes against the narative " of the documentary
I mean this is the music industry, this is hollywood, people will do anything to be a part of it people will do anything to be recognized people will do anything for money like wade, james and reed did.
@@markobrien1705No he didn't. Every Law suit against him has been thrown out. He settled the Jordan C. Case in 1993 as he was advised by his recording company to settle it and move on as he had his 'Dangerous' world tour starting. Which grossed 100s of millions plus album sales. 22 million was nothing. MJ later regretted making that decision.
@@benbirdYou are conflating a guilty verdict with guilt. Its Michael Jackson,of course he was never gonna be convicted. He trancends things like that,the trial back then and peoples responses now,he is just above it,you would have to find him literally bang a kid to believe it. That is how he got away with it,his starpower. Far fewer things speak to him being innocent than guilty but still,I was never a huge fan,just a casual one si I can look at this objectively and if the guys came out and said they lied...nothing is crazy anymore,it seems. But as it stands societys response to this story is pretty sick. We will believe victims.....unless they accuse someone who means alot to us.
@@christofferjenzen78 Read the evidence and observe the cases. You have a sweeping statement that means nothing. I'm not conflating anything. Would you like me to cite a concise account of what happened?
Some people in life you can just look at their face and demeanor and see and feel the bad vibes, like Dan. He’s not a good person, sorry! For the love of money. SMH!
Good interview, but I wish Piers (or ITV) bought a fan on the show that could present facts about the accusations and the previous trials.....just to make this interview a bit more Spicy
@@Fabbydabby1 very distorted view of reality. It's amazing how he didn't think he was doing something strange, and I think a lot of people took advantage of that. Forget the money he had, he was easy prey, especially for parents like Gavin Arvizo's mother, who already made accusations of this kind to the easiest victims
@@Fabbydabby1MJ lived a very sheltered life working from the age of 5, his dad would beat him up, he had no childhood and I imagine it must have affected him mentally and socially. I feel he kind of regressed to a child like mentality and I think he probably had real trust issues with other adults due to his fathers early physical and mental abuse of him. So, I feel he just trusted children more than adults not to use him or want something from him, let’s face it, MJ was surrounded by back stabbers and money hungry opportunists pretty much his whole life, who all tried to benefit from MJ in one way or another. I honestly believe that MJ simply loved anything to do with children and childhood because it represents a time of innocence, fun and joy and would have been escapism from the harsh realities of this cruel world! I believe his intentions were pure and innocent and in no way sordid like the way the media tried to twist it!
There was a leaked photo before this was released of this man giving them script and structuring them on what to say/not to say. I can’t find it anymore but I think the person that released it was the Audio director.
Id like for you to post what u have as evidence so everone can see it. He was aquitted of all the things u keep saying look at. So what evidence do u have???
😂imagine😭🤣Michael btw is now the richest dead person in the world because of his album sales rising again and again. And three of his music videos have over 1 billion views yeah their attempts to bring him down clearly didn't work🤣
you're right. and this is part of why I believe they're telling the truth. they probably went into this knowing it'd be difficult if not impossible to change the public's mind about him. other boys made allegations---without having perjured themselves earlier---and weren't believed. I think robson and safechuck are fully aware the odds are stacked against them. they and their families receive death threats as a result of them coming out. and yet they did it anyways.
@@Nina-px6zi whatever is.. all of this is fake. "it's beyond michael jackson, its a story of abuse." So they will use jackson who was innocent just to make their issue more known.. disgusting
@@crixxxxxxxxx social/cultural issues, the world, and in this case some people, are far more complex than your simple little mind and eyes can fathom. Educate yourself and do some research you absolute donkey.
@@crixxxxxxxxxplease watch michael jackson trial ,please watch square one ,watch lies of neverland..that train station lie it did not exist until 1994 how can they claim abused in place which does not exist.again james safechuck lie where he asked to testify towards end of trial.
@@chrisjohnson4272 yes guilty in your head only in fact the FBI 10 years investigation never found nothing on him😊 and the dad who accepted the money killed him self because of guilty for accusing someone of such a horrible thing right after MJ death
@@chrisjohnson4272 guilty only in your head in fact the 10 years FBI investigation didn’t found any evidence of wrongdoing and the dad who first accused him and accepted the money for justice killed him self of guilty for accusing someone of such horrible thing right after MJ death.
@@chrisjohnson4272 guilty only in your head in fact the 10 years FBI investigation didn’t found any evidence of wrongdoing and the dad who first accused him killed him self of guilty for accusing someone of such horrible thing right after MJ death so he was and is innocent forever.
He is completely unrelated to the whole story. he didn't even study the previous cases.. he is so dumb... and when you have no arguments to support your case you use irony.. not even 10 years old!! I still don't believe it and today, 15 years after his death, they are trying to insult his reputation.. Legendary Michael I miss your magic
If I were this man, I'd bury my head in the sand and stay there for the rest of my life. But I'm sure I'll live long enough to see him confess and apologize, just like Bashir did.
Safechuck said that when the abuse was happening, he never felt something was wrong. I find that extremely hard to believe. He also said Jackson assaulted him at a train station and went on to describe the train station, when factually it was discovered that the train station hadn't been in existence at that time. It was opened years later. Too many holes and inconsistencies in their stories,not to mention the fact that Wade originally defended Michael in court as an adult and then decided to change his story completely after Michael died.
Make a documentary, earn money after he dies While michael jackson cannot defend himself anymore. Such animals! Work you mf's stop this circus Salute to piers for bringing up the money
The FBI, the police and the court should start an investigation after you You are the bullies here! This is an accusation against the most famous dead man. It's not just a movie
❤Michael Jackson the best all time Forever ❤King of Music ❤King of Pop ❤️ King of Rock❤️ King of Humanitarian ❤ King of Gentleman 👏 King of Big Humanitarian👏King of aktor❤️King of singer❤️King of dancer❤️ King of songwriter❤️The best pure soul. He has the purest, greatest magic energy in the world❤ It has the energy of the truest, strongest, purest spiritual Magic❤ The best person in the world who has done a lot for people here. Even for those who hurt him brutally❤🪽🙏 thank you very much for everything. thank you very much for your big heart, your wonderful energy, your help to those who owe their lives to you and to whose lives you bring miracles❤🙏🪽 We love you all Forever ❤️ We miss you all forever ❤️
They change their sick story over and over again. And they present it in such detail as if they were reading it. Those who were hurt as children, They can't talk like these. They look very happy in those videos with Michael Jackson. They always wanted to be with Michael Jackson as kids. The child who was hurt does not want to be with the person who hurt him. Court, and they will finally get the punishment they deserve👏
@@SPZ909 Funny how hes gone silent the follow up was meant to come out stright away but there was nit 100's of victums, the only Victum was Michael Jackson.
Michael Jackson was declared innocent to the world. Michael Jackson wanted to fight a criminal lawsuit because he was not guilty but the accusers wanted a civil lawsuit so they can get paid if they won; in the end they didn’t get any because Michael was acquitted of all charges.Actually, I heard California court made changes ; a criminal lawsuit has to be filed first before a civil lawsuit can be filed . Of course you know that too. Michael Jackson Wonderful father and loved children very much and was a Humanitarian, he helped them a lot and to this day, after his death, a part of his fortune helps them. And he did the same to you.
@@aerielrodriguez5185if Diddy was dead Cassie case would’ve fell on death ears too, sad folks need tons of proof when they’re specific details that support those men
They may have been abused but it wasnt by Micheal. I think maybe by someone close to them and they blacked that out and decided to use Micheal as the scape goat! I have seen no evidence as for the employees are probably being paid as well to lie.
I actually thought of this too, perhaps they could have been abused but not by Michael, Wade literally asked his Mom so many questions about what happened during his childhood with Michael, he twisted every normal event and encounters to make it as salacious as possible
They didn't even interview the Neverland employees. Those who were over the years have said (even in court) that they were bribed to say things against Michael. His maid and nanny were bribed over $1 million by white police direct heads in 2003 to lie against Michael. Plus Leaving Neverland has so many errors there is no way it's true. Even if they were abused by someone else it's definitely despicable to lie on Michael's name
Here's a fact (I know) about serial PD no kid is safe in their sight, be it stranger, neighbours, even mostly relatives.... "NO KID IS EVER SAFE LEFT IN THE VICINITY OF SUCH TYPES..."... So as much as I want to chew into this, it's feels hard.. And am talking about me doing all kinds of research on TH-cam and off TH-cam.... It's not adding up... 🤷🏾♀️
Robson said he don't benefit financially from LN but it's no true! Visit his website. Now he calls himself a Life Mentor, he sells courses. People saw Wade in LN and now they turn to him for help. Robson is still making money off of Michael Jackson!!!
Robson said he don't benefit financially from LN but it's no true! Visit his website. Now he calls himself a Life Mentor, he sells courses (1 hour from $150.00; you can send Wade a one question email - $50...🤡). People saw Wade in LN and now they turn to him for help. Robson is still making money off of Michael Jackson!!!🤬
Can we go back to the ORIGINAL Michael Jackson 1993 CASE to expose this story FIRST before we move on to the new Jesse Smollets money scam? Let's go back. According to the Chandlers THEMSELVES, Michael had communications with them WAY before 1993 FIRST CASE. Ray Chandler, the brother or supposed UNCLE to Jordy, said June, the mother, gave MJ a get well letter in the hospital in January 1984 for the Pepsi Burn. He said MJ called them up and THANK THEM and would later invite Jordy to a performance of BAD which is 3 years later in 1987. He would then invite Jordy to his BAD performance which I think was the 1987 Pepsi Commercial. That's all through out the 80's BEFORE that 1993 fake scam. The story of MJ meeting them in 1993 IS A LIE. And this is where the STORIES STARTS by asking why would MJ have to molest Jordy in 1993 if he ALREADY had communications with him in the 80's?🤣 This is what I think happened. See in 1985, MJ started communicating with June AGAIN after she divorced Evan. So when MJ got his hair burned in January 1984, she visits him in the hospital to deliver a letter out of concern. I was a fan and I didn't go to the hospital or visit. How the hell was she able to do it? 🤣June broke off with Evan at this time and 1985 later got married to David Schwartz. Evan was out the picture. So, MJ probably thought this is a good time to reconnect with his son with that BIPOLAR Evan out the way. Notice how Evan even in that lawsuit said Jordy met MJ at a restaurant in 1985 with June and her NEW HUSBAND. MJ started renting cars from the new husband at his shop and that's how MJ began to reconnect with his SON. This ENTIRE STORY from 1993 is BS but see MJ is such a PRIVATE person, he would still think protecting Jordy even in the middle of this SCAM.
I'm about to do a video on Blame a Black Man Syndrome and how if Wade and James were BLACK they would be Jussie Smolletts. But using OJ is another racist tactic to group all black men as guilty and not individually and it comes from lynchings that occurred. They would lynch all the black men to get to 1. The video I'm about to do on Leaving Neverland will be the RACIST ANGLE as just did one on the DA Tom Sneddon.
Anthony Rapp is a veteran Broadway actor best known for originating the role of Mark in Rent. He told BuzzFeed that Spacey befriended him in 1986, when Rapp was 14 years old and performing in the Broadway play Precious Sons. According to Rapp, Spacey made “a sexual advance” toward him while he was attending a party at Spacey’s home. Now Spacey's trial was in Britain with even Elton John testifying for him but Spacey had over 30 people come forward. What happened to his U.S. TRIAL? Spacey ADMITTED HIS GUILT in this case of a 14 year old Anthony Rapp. Spacey issued a statement on Twitter in which he said he owed Rapp “the sincerest apology for what would have been deeply inappropriate drunken behavior.” Wow! Is that all it takes is an apology of what he did to a 14 year old???🤣 It's funny but shows the SICKNESS of these people.😒 Can you imagine if MJ had done this???? The OUTRAGE. MJ would be BEHIND BARS. And this is the RACIST angle that my NEXT VIDEO will be about!!!
He keeps saying there was a lot of evidence. From what he’s explaining and describing. That isn’t “evidence” the maids and cooks and drivers said this. Last I checked that isn’t evidence. People can say anything. A lot of times they get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to say those things too.
This Robson and this is the other one doesn't even look good to the eyes, radiates rough energy🫣 They also look devilish on the outside. Michael Jackson helped a lot of kids, It shouldn't have been, it was a shame to help them these and do good.
🙏🀄 ❤ Hi, folks. Michael himself wants to comment as follows: "My dear friends and family - thank you from the bottom of my heart and SOUL for all of your lovely sentiments and support. You need to be made aware that I was not A perfect Person without sin And that I am now Making Spiritual amends for my moral/mortal sins against many of these young people. Please, no more hatred or judgement. Everyone do your best to see ALL sides of every situation and to have compassion for one another. It is possible to "love a sinner while hating their sins." Thank you. I love you." ❤🀄🙏
On some posts i read there is no demanding money on the court document. I read it also on MJFacts. Some one has more precisions on the subject ? References? Reliable documents ? TY
Safechuck claims that he needs to be compensated for past, present and future lost earnings. His Second Amended Complaint (filed on September 19, 2016), page 49: Plaintiff prays for Judgment against Defendants as follows: 1. For past, present and future general damages in an amount to be determined at trial; 2. For past, present and future special damages, including but not limited to past, present and future lost earnings, economic damages and others, in an amount to be determined at trial; 3. Any appropriate punitive or exemplary damages against Defendants MJJ PRODUCTIONS, MJJ VENTURES, and DOES 6-50; 4. Any appropriate statutory damages; 5. For costs of suit; 6. For interest as allowed by law; 7, For attorney's fees pursuant to California C.C.P. §§ 1021.4, 1021.5, or otherwise as allowable by law; and 8. For such other and further relief as the court may deem proper. Robson claims that he needs to be financially compensated for his lost career in the entertainment industry (page 25 paragraph 73 DAMAGES) Wade Robson’s Fourth Amended Complaint (filed on September 9, 2016), page 36: Plaintiff prays for Judgment against against Defendants as follows: 1. For compensatory damages according to proof; 2. For punitive damages according to proof; 3 For an award of interest, including prejudgment interest, at the legal rate; 4 For an award of attorneys’ fees, to the extent permitted by law; 5 For costs of suit incurred herein; and 6 For such other and further relief as the Court deems just and appropriate.
These two individuals are wanting money. It’s clear they were not abused. It’s disgusting to think they want money when the man is passed and can’t defend himself. Testimony is not evidence. Their story has so many holes in it. Surely it would be thrown out of court.
Thank you👈🏽🏁🌎
Why on earth would anyone do this for money?
@@milchi_ruheCause they are too lazy to get a job.That's why.Wade's career gone down.
@@milchi_ruheLike Michael's lawyer said, "Why work when you can sue Michael?"
@@eugenavram7432 yeah, I mean… nothing is as waterproof as a case of an incident where the accused person is dead for years and where there is no evidence. Next to the fact that the whole MJ-Fans will hate you and no one will believe you. This isn‘t something a person would do out of greed.
I’m not a fan of piers Morgan, but he is spot on here. He is right to question the doc. No one who wasn’t there for sure can really know. Piers is stating this fact but DR is so dismissive of it just to not discredit his work. This is even taken further when he throws safechuck under the bus for getting the timelines wrong regarding the train station even though Safechuck signed legal papers stating they were accurate.
Piers only found it to be "weird" and "disturbing" that an adult slept in bed with children. It goes beyond that. No parent who protects their children would allow that to happen in any situation and/or capacity.
@@christianjacenits not illegal unless there is a criminal intention. You just deny innocence..☹
@LeLouvre634 I'm not talking about legalities. I'm talking about morality and parental obligation to protect your child. That is the duty of a parent. It's disturbing that you make an argument for that purpose.
So let me get this straight. He didn’t interview staff from neverland, didn’t interview anyone from the Jackson team, didn’t find any new tangible evidence that wasn’t presented in court already, presented timeline errors in the documentary (which will get picked apart in court), dismisses the financial incentive completely as “seeking justice”. I mean, how is this doc taken seriously by anybody? The victims can choose to ask for however much money they want. If they were suing only to recoup their legal fees, I’d be more inclined to buy their narrative. Yet they’re seeking hundreds of millions.
I am not sure for how much, but some places it is quoted as more than one billion. I wish this information was given in this interview. But one thing for sure is, all people who mooch other people act as someone owes them something, MJ's estate is the money MJ earned throughout his life through his work, actually, his whole life was devoted to music.
@@Lili-is4xfif Michael's estate wasn't worth billions, Wade and James won't even think of coming up with a story to sue the estate, the way they keep amending their lawsuit in a way just to get the estate to settle, in fact if you read their current claims now it's like it was the estate that abused them and not Michael any more. The desperation is real
jup. as far as documentaries go, it's one of the worst I've ever watched. And I have seen some bad ones 😂
One of the best documentaries I've watched. Very damning stuff.
Oh please thus directed is so wrong can't take dead man to court
Not an mj fan but it’s not easy to find evidence about mj abuse but it’s easy to find the “victims” lying.
"In 'Leaving Neverland,' James Safechuck claims he was abused from 1988 to 1992. In the documentary, he alleges abuse at a train station. The problem with that is the construction of the station started in 1993 and finished in 1994. If the abuse took place at the train station, James would have been 16, clearly not fitting the typical age of victims of MJ."
But all the alleged crimes are so easy to prove false.
"Not an mj fan but it’s not easy to find evidence about mj abuse but it’s easy to find the “victims” lying."
Because his sycophants operate a sprawling propaganda machine.
Exactly!!
Am I the only one who finds it weird that nowadays so many artists are trying to steal the "King of pop" title, that’s why the media is tarnishing his legacy, sometimes I even think that many artists are behind this not only Dan Reed, they want to burry his legacy they can’t except the fact that this man is GOAT!
Definitely the truth
I have PTSD and I never forget or mistake any of my trauma. But look at Safechuck, he said he was raped in the train station when the building wasn't there. I also don't think Lisa Marie would've married him if he was
Exactly
Right
He also said he would not testify, he was not allowed to by the judge. But he gave a a sworn deposition to the police and FBI. He also said he had a Honeymoon in Euro Disney years before it was built.
@@annemclean2548 still running with the Euro Disney lie . . . ? after all these years?
Correct the train station was not even built then. Its pure lies. MJ never did anything. Its just one of the numerous lies in this mockumentary. Two broke individuals who need desperate money. Its a pure money grab.
Wade's mother defended Michael too... Now it's something different...
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So where is the evidence? Bring just one piece of evidence apart from the words of 2 people and their immediate families. There has to be something if they've been abused hundreds of times by the same person as they claim.
How is it possible to be abused hundreds of times and your mother is on the same property, and she never observes anything about you? ... maybe your demeanour changing, your mood, something ... They should have had some proof in all that time.
moreover fbi and police investigated for 10 years ..they could not find any evidence and what did this bald guy found out which entire court system,police could not find..
"apart from the words of 2 people"
You're occupying an alternate reality.
There’s plenty of witnesses who saw the abuse happen.
@@SPZ909 all of them are discredited by court..all of them have conviction against
@@funny4899 Not true. All of them are credible and they are telling the truth.
The two protagonists, Safechuck and Robson, said they had testified in court at the time that MJ had not molested them because they were obsessed with being able to defend and save him in court. How can you make such a false statement and how can you want to defend someone like that when you have been wronged? They also said that they did not even realize that injustice was being done to them. If you have studied MJ, studied him, his body language, his gestures, his life, his behavior, then you can never believe such accusations. The research takes a lot of time, but you can't judge someone if you haven't walked in their shoes. I took the time for months. I must note that I have never been a fan of MJ and his music, but I despise people's superficialities, which have reached their peak since the existence of social networks. I feel the need to expose injustices. To me, MJ is clearly the victim. His life story is the saddest I have ever heard of...
it doesn't matter how much you've "studied him." you did not and will not ever know him as these men did. you've merely formed a parasocial relationship with him---tricked yourself into thinking you know him when really, you just know his public image. and this is exactly what happened with the parents of the children he abused too. they didn't think they were letting their boys sleep in a "stranger's" bed because he wasn't a stranger, he was MJ! they'd all seen him on their TVs therefore OF COURSE they knew him! he's just a boy who never grew up even tho he was actually like 40 years old!! come on. he groomed the public and he groomed you too.
"How can you make such a false statement and how can you want to defend someone like that when you have been wronged?"
Why do Jackson sycophants pose this ad nauseum? Is it naivete or obtuseness?
@@DonyaliciousWell then you need to do research and you will find lies and holes in their abuse stories. I can list a few here if you’re interested??
@@Einstein9201Listen I’m not a fan! But I even discovered holes in their stores!! Do some research.
Well said
If they aren't doing it for money, they should sue for a like a 1000 dollars, not millions.
they shouldnt be suing a dead person. who does that? its clearly for the money.
$1.6 billion to be more specific 🤭
Glad there's people with brain on this comment section.
@@yf2995 There is no specific amount they are suing for. Read the court documents
@@GomezBeatzExcellent point!!
@@Wild_flower_415It’s still for millions. The 1.6 billion was thrown in court by the judge for lies!
Respect Piers for this 👌
This director rang michaels staff member and she only had nice things to say so he told her they cant use her as it "goes against the narative " of the documentary
None of this is true for anyone wondering
@@SPZ909shut up
@@SPZ909just like Leaving Neverland 🤡
I mean this is the music industry, this is hollywood, people will do anything to be a part of it people will do anything to be recognized people will do anything for money like wade, james and reed did.
He definitely did it
Nice nod to money there a great song from Michael’s history album
@@markobrien1705No he didn't. Every Law suit against him has been thrown out.
He settled the Jordan C. Case in 1993 as he was advised by his recording company to settle it and move on as he had his 'Dangerous' world tour starting. Which grossed 100s of millions plus album sales.
22 million was nothing. MJ later regretted making that decision.
@@benbirdYou are conflating a guilty verdict with guilt. Its Michael Jackson,of course he was never gonna be convicted. He trancends things like that,the trial back then and peoples responses now,he is just above it,you would have to find him literally bang a kid to believe it. That is how he got away with it,his starpower. Far fewer things speak to him being innocent than guilty but still,I was never a huge fan,just a casual one si I can look at this objectively and if the guys came out and said they lied...nothing is crazy anymore,it seems. But as it stands societys response to this story is pretty sick. We will believe victims.....unless they accuse someone who means alot to us.
@@christofferjenzen78 Read the evidence and observe the cases. You have a sweeping statement that means nothing.
I'm not conflating anything. Would you like me to cite a concise account of what happened?
Some people in life you can just look at their face and demeanor and see and feel the bad vibes, like Dan. He’s not a good person, sorry! For the love of money. SMH!
and like Michael Jackson
@@SPZ909No!! Do some research and you will find holes in their abuse stories. 🤯😤
Good interview, but I wish Piers (or ITV) bought a fan on the show that could present facts about the accusations and the previous trials.....just to make this interview a bit more Spicy
Why would a grown man choose to hang out with 7 to 10 year old children & not people his own age
@@Fabbydabby1
very distorted view of reality.
It's amazing how he didn't think he was doing something strange, and I think a lot of people took advantage of that. Forget the money he had, he was easy prey, especially for parents like Gavin Arvizo's mother, who already made accusations of this kind to the easiest victims
@@Fabbydabby1MJ lived a very sheltered life working from the age of 5, his dad would beat him up, he had no childhood and I imagine it must have affected him mentally and socially. I feel he kind of regressed to a child like mentality and I think he probably had real trust issues with other adults due to his fathers early physical and mental abuse of him. So, I feel he just trusted children more than adults not to use him or want something from him, let’s face it, MJ was surrounded by back stabbers and money hungry opportunists pretty much his whole life, who all tried to benefit from MJ in one way or another. I honestly believe that MJ simply loved anything to do with children and childhood because it represents a time of innocence, fun and joy and would have been escapism from the harsh realities of this cruel world! I believe his intentions were pure and innocent and in no way sordid like the way the media tried to twist it!
You can see the deceit in his face.
nah you can see the frustration
@@Donyalicious Nah.
Sure, bucko.
Dan Reed's arrogance is outstanding
The guy doesn’t even look too sure of himself
There was a leaked photo before this was released of this man giving them script and structuring them on what to say/not to say. I can’t find it anymore but I think the person that released it was the Audio director.
@@missethio7394NO WAY! Where is the photo! Please found it.
Id like for you to post what u have as evidence so everone can see it. He was aquitted of all the things u keep saying look at. So what evidence do u have???
Haha, tried to cancel Micheal Jackson, and it didn't work. He more popular than ever.😆
😂imagine😭🤣Michael btw is now the richest dead person in the world because of his album sales rising again and again. And three of his music videos have over 1 billion views yeah their attempts to bring him down clearly didn't work🤣
you're right. and this is part of why I believe they're telling the truth. they probably went into this knowing it'd be difficult if not impossible to change the public's mind about him. other boys made allegations---without having perjured themselves earlier---and weren't believed. I think robson and safechuck are fully aware the odds are stacked against them. they and their families receive death threats as a result of them coming out. and yet they did it anyways.
@@Donyalicious uh Leaving Neverland is a lie. It's been investigated and proven a lie🤣🤣
@@Donyalicious they both is lying to the tee
@@Donyalicious ummm why is it only poor ppl that go after Mj????
ThankYou 🏁for your support 🙏🏾
Taking a dead person to court makes no since that means you only want money and that's not cool
Dan Reed is an opportunist.
Sent by HBO( linked to Oprh Winfr. since 2008) and channel 4 , both Warner?). I d rather say a puppet.🤔
@@Nina-px6zi whatever is.. all of this is fake. "it's beyond michael jackson, its a story of abuse." So they will use jackson who was innocent just to make their issue more known.. disgusting
The amount of BS coming out of Dan Greed’s mouth is actually hilarious
The amount of rationalization for a grown man sleeping with kids you folks do is hilarious.
@@crixxxxxxxxx social/cultural issues, the world, and in this case some people, are far more complex than your simple little mind and eyes can fathom. Educate yourself and do some research you absolute donkey.
@@crixxxxxxxxxplease watch michael jackson trial ,please watch square one ,watch lies of neverland..that train station lie it did not exist until 1994 how can they claim abused in place which does not exist.again james safechuck lie where he asked to testify towards end of trial.
@@crixxxxxxxxxthe amount of ignorance you said and don’t know facts is hilarious 😂
@@Triigga86 Michael personally admitted to doing exactly what I said. Sorry to break the news.
Can't look at Dan Reed without wondering... is he not Turtley enough for The turtle club 😹 ~ Master of Disguise
"Why do you give a 13 year old 22 million"😂😂😂😂😂😂
Why parents accept money for justice instead of putting the guy who reaped your child in prison 😮
@@bibadiallo3401 He paid 22 million because he was guilty end of story!
@@chrisjohnson4272 yes guilty in your head only in fact the FBI 10 years investigation never found nothing on him😊 and the dad who accepted the money killed him self because of guilty for accusing someone of such a horrible thing right after MJ death
@@chrisjohnson4272 guilty only in your head in fact the 10 years FBI investigation didn’t found any evidence of wrongdoing and the dad who first accused him and accepted the money for justice killed him self of guilty for accusing someone of such horrible thing right after MJ death.
@@chrisjohnson4272 guilty only in your head in fact the 10 years FBI investigation didn’t found any evidence of wrongdoing and the dad who first accused him killed him self of guilty for accusing someone of such horrible thing right after MJ death so he was and is innocent forever.
I don’t believe a word of LN
I believe every word
@@SPZ909okay do u want a cookie ?
@@SPZ909🙉😅
“They’re not fussed about the money” 😂
Something is off about Dan Reed idk what it is
Agree..odd man
He is completely unrelated to the whole story. he didn't even study the previous cases.. he is so dumb... and when you have no arguments to support your case you use irony.. not even 10 years old!! I still don't believe it and today, 15 years after his death, they are trying to insult his reputation..
Legendary Michael I miss your magic
If I were this man, I'd bury my head in the sand and stay there for the rest of my life. But I'm sure I'll live long enough to see him confess and apologize, just like Bashir did.
Safechuck said that when the abuse was happening, he never felt something was wrong. I find that extremely hard to believe. He also said Jackson assaulted him at a train station and went on to describe the train station, when factually it was discovered that the train station hadn't been in existence at that time. It was opened years later. Too many holes and inconsistencies in their stories,not to mention the fact that Wade originally defended Michael in court as an adult and then decided to change his story completely after Michael died.
He never felt something was wrong but he lied to his parents...i m lost
@@Nina-px6zi.. why lying if nothing is wrong ?
Clearly you have no idea what grooming is.
Make a documentary, earn money after he dies
While michael jackson cannot defend himself anymore. Such animals! Work you mf's stop this circus
Salute to piers for bringing up the money
Wow....
they are sueing for money and you know it!!!! 1.5 million
Robson wants $1.5 or 1.62 *billion* 🤯
For those who are fortunate enough not to live in the U.K an easy way to detect an Englishman lying is to see if his lips are moving.
This Director is so gullible for believing those accusers without genuine evidence. In fact there is so much evidence that that they were lying.
He wrote the script.
The FBI, the police and the court should start an investigation after you
You are the bullies here!
This is an accusation against the most famous dead man.
It's not just a movie
❤Michael Jackson the best all time Forever ❤King of Music ❤King of Pop ❤️
King of Rock❤️
King of Humanitarian ❤ King of Gentleman 👏 King of Big Humanitarian👏King of aktor❤️King of singer❤️King of dancer❤️ King of songwriter❤️The best pure soul. He has the purest, greatest magic energy in the world❤
It has the energy of the truest, strongest, purest spiritual Magic❤
The best person in the world who has done a lot for people here. Even for those who hurt him brutally❤🪽🙏
thank you very much for everything. thank you very much for your big heart, your wonderful energy, your help to those who owe their lives to you and to whose lives you bring miracles❤🙏🪽
We love you all Forever ❤️ We miss you all forever ❤️
People talk about something with no evidence
They change their sick story over and over again. And they present it in such detail as if they were reading it. Those who were hurt as children, They can't talk like these. They look very happy in those videos with Michael Jackson. They always wanted to be with Michael Jackson as kids.
The child who was hurt does not want to be with the person who hurt him.
Court, and they will finally get the punishment they deserve👏
R.I.P MJ MUCH LOVE FROM 🦘🇦🇺
Jackson always was and still is an easy target 💰.
I can't with this half smirk and his pseudo-empathetic nods ahaha (I'm overly familiar with the rabbit hole so I can laugh about it)
wheres the leaving neverland 2 and the 100's of other so called victiums that Reed Promised???
It’s in the making.
@@SPZ909 Funny how hes gone silent the follow up was meant to come out stright away but there was nit 100's of victums, the only Victum was Michael Jackson.
If any one should be Sued they should go after their own parents.
Check please John ziegler podkast regarding..
And also what Charls Thomson has to say about..
Piers had this numpty on toast!
Does Reed have cancer or does he just act like it?
he has dementia
Dan Reeds career is down the 🚽
This is disgusting,both of them should go and work instead of reaping where they did not sow,daddy we all love u n behind u all the way❤❤❤❤❤
Michael Jackson was declared innocent to the world.
Michael Jackson wanted to fight a criminal lawsuit because he was not guilty but the accusers wanted a civil lawsuit so they can get paid if they won; in the end they didn’t get any because Michael was acquitted of all charges.Actually, I heard California court made changes ; a criminal lawsuit has to be filed first before a civil lawsuit can be filed .
Of course you know that too.
Michael Jackson Wonderful father and loved children very much and was a Humanitarian, he helped them a lot and to this day, after his death, a part of his fortune helps them. And he did the same to you.
Piers is getting stuck in 😂😂😂
OJ Simpson was acquitted. Rich people don’t go down.
comparing michael jackson to OJ is insane 😂
@@aerielrodriguez5185if Diddy was dead Cassie case would’ve fell on death ears too, sad folks need tons of proof when they’re specific details that support those men
@@YurAvgPlaya this isn’t about diddy lol , diddy is different from michael jackson thank you very much 😂
Wade is in love with money 😅 he has been always.
Plus he's saying, "Yes" but his body language is telling otherwise... 😕
They may have been abused but it wasnt by Micheal. I think maybe by someone close to them and they blacked that out and decided to use Micheal as the scape goat! I have seen no evidence as for the employees are probably being paid as well to lie.
I actually thought of this too, perhaps they could have been abused but not by Michael, Wade literally asked his Mom so many questions about what happened during his childhood with Michael, he twisted every normal event and encounters to make it as salacious as possible
They didn't even interview the Neverland employees. Those who were over the years have said (even in court) that they were bribed to say things against Michael. His maid and nanny were bribed over $1 million by white police direct heads in 2003 to lie against Michael. Plus Leaving Neverland has so many errors there is no way it's true. Even if they were abused by someone else it's definitely despicable to lie on Michael's name
Mr Jackson would vote Trump.
False accusation
Here's a fact (I know) about serial PD no kid is safe in their sight, be it stranger, neighbours, even mostly relatives.... "NO KID IS EVER SAFE LEFT IN THE VICINITY OF SUCH TYPES..."... So as much as I want to chew into this, it's feels hard.. And am talking about me doing all kinds of research on TH-cam and off TH-cam.... It's not adding up... 🤷🏾♀️
You did poor research then
@@SPZ909 okayy!.. fair enough...
Thanks for your researchs..MJ met hundreds and thousands of kids, and was familiar with dozen..the accusations have a very poor background..
Robson wants $1.62 BILLION!!!
Robson said he don't benefit financially from LN but it's no true! Visit his website. Now he calls himself a Life Mentor, he sells courses. People saw Wade in LN and now they turn to him for help. Robson is still making money off of Michael Jackson!!!
Robson said he don't benefit financially from LN but it's no true! Visit his website. Now he calls himself a Life Mentor, he sells courses (1 hour from $150.00; you can send Wade a one question email - $50...🤡). People saw Wade in LN and now they turn to him for help. Robson is still making money off of Michael Jackson!!!🤬
@@_volterstalking like MJ, same voice, same words, same inspiration coming from above, him being a channel. Very strange.
@@_volters like Dan Reed, they put themselves in the posture of loving, good men. True manipulation of opinion.
the male interviewer is absolutely hostile and unprofessional. what a shame
No that’s the badly which is as you described
That's the only true and unbiased journalist doing his job
@@smilewhenurheartisaching how is he unbiased when he seems to only buy the MJ side of things?
@@smilewhenurheartisaching you think *Piers Morgan* is true and unbiased 🤣
These guys are not gonna give up are they the man is innocent ffs
The jackson documentary director
It's not true. Dan Reed so full of himself in this interview disgusting
Very strange guy. Difficult to get informations about him. He s a puppet..
Piers Morgan is such a low-quality person.
this guy sounds scripted like something doesn't feel right i could care less but he sounds like hes rehearsed what hes saying
True. Piers Morgan absolutely sounds like he's just a robot, parroting his routine. But the woman beside him is even worse.
@@Typhoon2142 I'm talking about the bald head guy
@@mathiusloca23 Well, maybe you should have said that.
@@Typhoon2142 ur dense
Riiight, and O.J. is also innocent because he was acquitted as well. Seems legit.
Can we go back to the ORIGINAL Michael Jackson 1993 CASE to expose this story FIRST before we move on to the new Jesse Smollets money scam? Let's go back.
According to the Chandlers THEMSELVES, Michael had communications with them WAY before 1993 FIRST CASE. Ray Chandler, the brother or supposed UNCLE to Jordy, said June, the mother, gave MJ a get well letter in the hospital in January 1984 for the Pepsi Burn. He said MJ called them up and THANK THEM and would later invite Jordy to a performance of BAD which is 3 years later in 1987. He would then invite Jordy to his BAD performance which I think was the 1987 Pepsi Commercial. That's all through out the 80's BEFORE that 1993 fake scam. The story of MJ meeting them in 1993 IS A LIE. And this is where the STORIES STARTS by asking why would MJ have to molest Jordy in 1993 if he ALREADY had communications with him in the 80's?🤣
This is what I think happened. See in 1985, MJ started communicating with June AGAIN after she divorced Evan. So when MJ got his hair burned in January 1984, she visits him in the hospital to deliver a letter out of concern. I was a fan and I didn't go to the hospital or visit. How the hell was she able to do it? 🤣June broke off with Evan at this time and 1985 later got married to David Schwartz. Evan was out the picture. So, MJ probably thought this is a good time to reconnect with his son with that BIPOLAR Evan out the way. Notice how Evan even in that lawsuit said Jordy met MJ at a restaurant in 1985 with June and her NEW HUSBAND. MJ started renting cars from the new husband at his shop and that's how MJ began to reconnect with his SON. This ENTIRE STORY from 1993 is BS but see MJ is such a PRIVATE person, he would still think protecting Jordy even in the middle of this SCAM.
thank you! not to mention being found not guilty does not mean innocent
I'm about to do a video on Blame a Black Man Syndrome and how if Wade and James were BLACK they would be Jussie Smolletts. But using OJ is another racist tactic to group all black men as guilty and not individually and it comes from lynchings that occurred. They would lynch all the black men to get to 1. The video I'm about to do on Leaving Neverland will be the RACIST ANGLE as just did one on the DA Tom Sneddon.
Kevin Spacey too
Anthony Rapp is a veteran Broadway actor best known for originating the role of Mark in Rent. He told BuzzFeed that Spacey befriended him in 1986, when Rapp was 14 years old and performing in the Broadway play Precious Sons. According to Rapp, Spacey made “a sexual advance” toward him while he was attending a party at Spacey’s home.
Now Spacey's trial was in Britain with even Elton John testifying for him but Spacey had over 30 people come forward. What happened to his U.S. TRIAL?
Spacey ADMITTED HIS GUILT in this case of a 14 year old Anthony Rapp. Spacey issued a statement on Twitter in which he said he owed Rapp “the sincerest apology for what would have been deeply inappropriate drunken behavior.” Wow! Is that all it takes is an apology of what he did to a 14 year old???🤣 It's funny but shows the SICKNESS of these people.😒 Can you imagine if MJ had done this???? The OUTRAGE. MJ would be BEHIND BARS. And this is the RACIST angle that my NEXT VIDEO will be about!!!
He keeps saying there was a lot of evidence. From what he’s explaining and describing. That isn’t “evidence” the maids and cooks and drivers said this. Last I checked that isn’t evidence. People can say anything. A lot of times they get paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to say those things too.
Two of them, Adrian Mc Manus and Ralph Chacon were condemned for having robbed Michael Jackson.
This whole thing is a discusting money scam.
They are playing the groomed card.
I'll believe the accusers when they don't want money.
What would you sue for? For more steroids?
Money, money, money,💸💸💸💸💸
Must be funny🤑🤑🤑🤑
In the rich menʼs world
ABBA
BS , they do want money.
This Robson and this is the other one doesn't even look good to the eyes,
radiates rough energy🫣
They also look devilish on the outside. Michael Jackson helped a lot of kids, It shouldn't have been, it was a shame to help them these and do good.
🙏🀄 ❤ Hi, folks. Michael himself wants to comment as follows: "My dear friends and family - thank you from the bottom of my heart and SOUL for all of your lovely sentiments and support. You need to be made aware that I was not A perfect Person without sin And that I am now Making Spiritual amends for my moral/mortal sins against many of these young people. Please, no more hatred or judgement. Everyone do your best to see ALL sides of every situation and to have compassion for one another. It is possible to "love a sinner while hating their sins." Thank you. I love you." ❤🀄🙏
Bull that's dumb
What was that problem he paid 22 million to get rid of?😂😂😂😂😂😂
a documentary on TH-cam "Square One" has the answer you want
On some posts i read there is no demanding money on the court document. I read it also on MJFacts. Some one has more precisions on the subject ? References? Reliable documents ? TY
Safechuck claims that he needs to be compensated for past, present and future lost earnings. His Second Amended Complaint (filed on September 19, 2016), page 49:
Plaintiff prays for Judgment against Defendants as follows:
1. For past, present and future general damages in an amount to be determined at trial;
2. For past, present and future special damages, including but not limited to past, present and future lost earnings, economic damages and others, in an amount to be determined at trial;
3. Any appropriate punitive or exemplary damages against Defendants MJJ PRODUCTIONS, MJJ VENTURES, and DOES 6-50;
4. Any appropriate statutory damages;
5. For costs of suit;
6. For interest as allowed by law;
7, For attorney's fees pursuant to California C.C.P. §§ 1021.4, 1021.5, or otherwise as allowable by law; and
8. For such other and further relief as the court may deem proper.
Robson claims that he needs to be financially compensated for his lost career in the entertainment industry (page 25 paragraph 73 DAMAGES)
Wade Robson’s Fourth Amended Complaint (filed on September 9, 2016), page 36:
Plaintiff prays for Judgment against against Defendants as follows:
1. For compensatory damages according to proof;
2. For punitive damages according to proof;
3 For an award of interest, including prejudgment interest, at the legal rate;
4 For an award of attorneys’ fees, to the extent permitted by law;
5 For costs of suit incurred herein; and
6 For such other and further relief as the Court deems just and appropriate.
@@_volters thank you..