The transition the girl "Britney" did ,was honestly so realistic, like no matter what image these child influencers/models/etc portray, they are still children
Wow...that was a cool little moment at the end, unusually reflective for a procedural. Briscoe forgot where he was there, another day at the job, but you're not at the police station...you're at the victim's home. Loved it, great writing.
at the same time, "somebody killed our daughter" yeah and they're trying to find out who and you're all "i don't know nothing about nobody." as soon as the detectives piece together that she was in baltimore when she was raped, he stops answering questions and changes the subject, not exactly casting himself in an innocent light. if he was really so concerned about finding who killed his daughter, he'd be retracing every step she took for the last 3 weeks.
I’m glad the father called out the Detective’s expression “we’re just getting warmed up” at the end because the one thing I hate about this show is that the law enforcers are often very sarcastic with their one-liners when dealing with very serious cases affecting people who are emotionally hurt. You can tell it was written in the 90’s even if it was well written overall. There was not a lot of space for mental health empathy.
that one liner would have been the least of my issues with this show. Especially in this situation where a young girl was brutally raped and one of the parents, while rightfully distraught/worried, becomes snippy with the cops that neeed to ask uncomfortable questions.
That may have been why it was written this way -- to show an example of insensitivity and an example of how to call it out. You're right - it's good writing because they explore the different facets - not just those that make us comfortable.
Their empathy is finite and limited, they have to treat each case with as much objective detachment to counter whatever bias or preconceived notion they may have regarding the victims, witnesses, suspects, and culprits in order to do their job as well as they humanly can. And being consistently sensitive to other people's emotion is something humans are famously inconsistent about.
SPOILER: The mother was molesting her daughter out of jealousy. The father was treating her, and realized it was in fact his wife who was the abuser. Belzer and Seda from Homicide: Life on the Streets make a guest appearance. It’s a good episode.
When that girl said "im in 8th grade"..i go what!! How can parents allow a child that young to be out on the streets..unchaparoned?? she had to be what 12 or 13?
Thirteen. The next lines are a clue. Five years until she can vote. What age do you have to be in order to vote? Now subtract five. There's your answer.
In NYC it’s normal for kids as young as 10 to be unchaperoned. At least when I was a kid it was. But I recently went for a visit and saw plenty of kids that age out alone.
There was an Law and Order episode where a 13 yo was raped and murdered in her home. And the detectives were really roasting the father. Until the tests came back, the poor girl had been raped with a wine bottle. They found the broken bottle and the csi's found a fingerprint or a thumbprint on it that belong to the mother. She had done all that to the daughter because she and her husband were getting a divorce and she wanted to hurt him in the worst way possible. Also, she resented her daughter because she never wanted children but her husband did. 🙄
I think you may have the details mixed up. I'm pretty sure this was a L&O: SVU episode titled "Justice" and although she was murdered by her mother with a wine bottle, she wasn't raped with it. The girl was impregnated with her stepfather's baby at age 11.
One of many great great things about L&O is the mind-boggling array of backgrounds that the characters have. The police, the lawyers, the victims, the suspects, the criminals. Truly a massive selection of society.
I have seen this episode and the crossover second part in HOMICIDE: LIFE ON THE STREET season 6 or 7. The most shocking part is when it is discovered who really killed the teenage supermodel, horrifying and disgusting.
@@dddz961 If I were you, look up the corresponding episode of HOMICIDE: LIFE ON THE STREET under the episode title, BABY, IT'S YOU, and you will see that Stabler is not only not a part of this storyline at all and he is not even mentioned by the member's of the 27th precint either.
@@TheGroundedAviator It probably wouldn't go after a coyote; I don't think they're edible. A coyote is a better term for guys like this anyway, now that I think of it; wolves are actually noble creatures in the animal kingdom but coyotes are strictly opportunist and they never pick on anyone their own size.
Much too young to have a boyfriend the mother said? Geez, how old is this girl because I know she is an underage teenage girl but hearing the mother say that she is way too young to have a boyfriend; exactly how much of a young girl is this girl for her mother to say that? The teenage girl must be 13 or 14 or something
I think a big part of it was that she was jealous since she was abusing her daughter for that exact reason, jealous of her beauty So there’s no surprise that she would do/ say anything to bring her down more
@@Jo-er6tw does everything that happen always have to be “You’re just jealous” answer for you people? Why is that always an answer? Let me ask you something because I have been using this example since I was 15: you have a job and you are working late at night. You happen to stumble across an office glass window and see inside someone standing over a dead body. What do you think happened in that office?
@@jaimeduncan6167 as far as I know the mother was abusing the daughter, the father treated her wounds and found out what the mom was doing The girl passed away from her injuries and I guess the dad covered for the mom after all of that? It’s a crossover episode so I’m not 100% sure of the details
It should be a rule that WETv, BBC, and Sundance have to air the corresponding “Homicide” episodes of the three crossovers. Who remembers the other two?
"Clients want the Lolita-look. The whole point is selling clothes, but we made sure they'd keep them on" .....Ray turns the page in the portfolio to a half-naked teenager
That was about me. I was able to pass for high school age in 6th grade. Only reason I never got into any trouble with it was cause I was such an introvert I never wanted to go out and do anything.
@@Swissswoosher You're unfamiliar with the concept of exploitation? Young boys and girls being forced to wear this and strike that pose, for money, for success, for future work? It's pretty much standard operating procedure.
This was not Munch's first appearance on Law and Order. In season 6 episode "Charm City" Bayliss and Pembleton visit the 27 tried to hijack their investigation. Munch goes to the suspect's home in Baltimore to get background info from his son
@@irishpogi Munch to the suspect's son: "I know you. You're the kid who shoves Santa back up the chimney. Who kicks the gift horse out of the barn. Hangs up on Ed McMahon, right?"
I don't think you know what an oxymoron is. If you did, you wouldn't have said such a blatantly incorrect thing. But go ahead. Given that virtually ALL supermodels start in their teens (13 to 19 don't forget), where are you getting oxymoronic from? The two go hand in hand ffs.
Plenty of people criticize the sarcasm part of the show, put yourself in a detective's shoes with all of the horror that they have to deal with, sarcasm is a good mental health release. The case on the show was a prime example of when you sell your child for money to make them famous why would you expect things not to happen to them.
Sarcasm is a good mental release? What? No therapist on this planet ever advised anyone to "get a little more sarcastic -- it'll help you deal with the stress". It's a TV show. The witty oneliners are there to entertain you, not bring up questions about PTSD and how to deal with it. You're like one of those Star Trek apologists who go to ANY length to justify some hole in the show's canon. "They had more advanced ships because, you see, the Kelvin timeline had offshoots, and one of them was blah blah stfu." It's a TV show. Written by writers. Y'know?
Kinda reminds me of when a nurse got in trouble for making a silly, overdramatic tiktok about the frustration of having a patient die early in her shift. Black humor and a certain amount of callousness is probably a necessary part of tough gigs but professionalism dictates keeping it to a minimum amongst the grieving family members.
@@ryans756 you understand that most people don't use only the healthiest coping mechanisms recommended by top therapists, right? Sarcasm & dark humor is extremely common among homicide detectives or anyone who deals with death regularly. It's especially common in war, soldiers and marines will joke about the most heinous things you couldn't imagine because it helps them desensitize enough to be able to do their job. Anyone regularly encountering awful things like homicide, drug addiction, and child abuse especially sexual abuse is going to have to desensitize to do their job. And humor is a useful tool to do that. And it becomes easy to forget there's a human being at the center of it with people who cared about them.
I work for the police and you can make those comments if you need the humor….in a closed office far away from civilians that are hurting. There is a time and a place
studies have been done that concluded that dark humour was and is used by people who witness traumatic events as part of their jobs. it's a coping mechanism of sorts
Can't remember exactly, but it would be pointless anyway as this was a crossover with homicide life on the streets. That show isn't aired anywhere anymore.
I knew models were young but i had no idea 12 to 14 year olds would be modeling that kind of outfit. Gosh kids must have been really crule to girls that age that were whenni was that age i cant imagine what they be like if they saw a her work
A teenager looking like that? No doubt she will face a lot of problems. She’s underage and many other older men can take advantage even if they are aware or not aware of her being underage
I can’t wait to see the Baltimore ravens versus the New York jets on September 11th 2022 and see a special ceremony for the 20th anniversary of 9/11 on September 11th 2022 at the New York jets on September 11th 2022 in Rutherford New Jersey
The transition the girl "Britney" did ,was honestly so realistic, like no matter what image these child influencers/models/etc portray, they are still children
Britney wasn't in the clip.
" Are you going to shake the family tree until a pervert falls out, detective?" lol
Wow...that was a cool little moment at the end, unusually reflective for a procedural. Briscoe forgot where he was there, another day at the job, but you're not at the police station...you're at the victim's home. Loved it, great writing.
at the same time, "somebody killed our daughter" yeah and they're trying to find out who and you're all "i don't know nothing about nobody." as soon as the detectives piece together that she was in baltimore when she was raped, he stops answering questions and changes the subject, not exactly casting himself in an innocent light. if he was really so concerned about finding who killed his daughter, he'd be retracing every step she took for the last 3 weeks.
I’m glad the father called out the Detective’s expression “we’re just getting warmed up” at the end because the one thing I hate about this show is that the law enforcers are often very sarcastic with their one-liners when dealing with very serious cases affecting people who are emotionally hurt. You can tell it was written in the 90’s even if it was well written overall. There was not a lot of space for mental health empathy.
that one liner would have been the least of my issues with this show. Especially in this situation where a young girl was brutally raped and one of the parents, while rightfully distraught/worried, becomes snippy with the cops that neeed to ask uncomfortable questions.
@@KaySan666 Uncomfortable questions is one thing his attitude is another.
That may have been why it was written this way -- to show an example of insensitivity and an example of how to call it out. You're right - it's good writing because they explore the different facets - not just those that make us comfortable.
Their empathy is finite and limited, they have to treat each case with as much objective detachment to counter whatever bias or preconceived notion they may have regarding the victims, witnesses, suspects, and culprits in order to do their job as well as they humanly can. And being consistently sensitive to other people's emotion is something humans are famously inconsistent about.
ha ha ... is was a family thing.
“Did she have a boyfriend?”
“I wouldn’t allow it.”
Well yeah, but you kind of paraded your middle school age daughter around… mother of the year!
One of the darkest episodes of the series dealing with incest. Definitely a precursor to SVU.
The dad or the grandfather?
@@shevahauser1780 Actually it was the mom who was involved in the incest.
@@kekakid05 abuse. Desgusting. Nauseating....
@@kekakid05 describe what happened. use detail
@@adamlouis3725 weirdo
SPOILER:
The mother was molesting her daughter out of jealousy. The father was treating her, and realized it was in fact his wife who was the abuser. Belzer and Seda from Homicide: Life on the Streets make a guest appearance. It’s a good episode.
Dear god
Who killed her though
@@selenesimpson3145 She died from the injuries her mother inflicted on her.
@@aggressiveattitudeera887 Thank you
The mother? Oh lord
The coroner always is pissed off in her appearances, but she was FURIOUS in her scene here.
When that girl said "im in 8th grade"..i go what!! How can parents allow a child that young to be out on the streets..unchaparoned?? she had to be what 12 or 13?
13 or 14, that’s the age everyone was when I was in 8th grade.
@@whimsielf3 I was 12 about to be 13 in 8th grade.
Except she was most definitely early 20s
Thirteen. The next lines are a clue. Five years until she can vote. What age do you have to be in order to vote? Now subtract five. There's your answer.
In NYC it’s normal for kids as young as 10 to be unchaperoned. At least when I was a kid it was. But I recently went for a visit and saw plenty of kids that age out alone.
There was an Law and
Order episode where a
13 yo was raped and
murdered in her home.
And the detectives
were really roasting the father.
Until the tests came back,
the poor girl had been
raped with a wine bottle.
They found the broken bottle
and the csi's found a
fingerprint or a thumbprint on it that belong to the mother. She had done all that to the daughter because she and her husband were getting a divorce and she wanted to hurt him in the worst way possible. Also, she resented her daughter because she never wanted children but her husband did. 🙄
I think you may have the details mixed up. I'm pretty sure this was a L&O: SVU episode titled "Justice" and although she was murdered by her mother with a wine bottle, she wasn't raped with it. The girl was impregnated with her stepfather's baby at age 11.
One of many great great things about L&O is the mind-boggling array of backgrounds that the characters have. The police, the lawyers, the victims, the suspects, the criminals. Truly a massive selection of society.
Lenny Briscoe will always be one of my top 5 characters of all time!
01:21 Jean Shrimpton! 😂
Oh Briscoe, we miss you
A great great series !!!! Very few comparable one's to it !!!! Jerry Orbach was perhaps the most memorable !!!!!
Yup
I have seen this episode and the crossover second part in HOMICIDE: LIFE ON THE STREET season 6 or 7. The most shocking part is when it is discovered who really killed the teenage supermodel, horrifying and disgusting.
it was stabler
@@dddz961 If I were you, look up the corresponding episode of HOMICIDE: LIFE ON THE STREET under the episode title, BABY, IT'S YOU, and you will see that Stabler is not only not a part of this storyline at all and he is not even mentioned by the member's of the 27th precint either.
This was definitely a precursor to Law & Order: Special Victims Unit.
@@aggressiveattitudeera887 Yeah, they rehabilitated the character even though he did all of these horrible crimes. It's canon. Trust me.
Where can I watch the full m
Just loved Munch and Lenny scenes together.
I miss the Briscoe and Curtis days of L and O! May you forever R.I.P. Mr. Orbach!
tbh i prefer Briscoe and Green
@@zilesis1 I just prefer Briscoe and *anyone!* Mr. Orbach was to me, the beating heart of the Law part of the show.
And now Richard Belzer too😭 RIP
@@seanragsdale5636 Right? I was so sad to hear of his passing. He was one of a kind.
Some of my favorite years of law and order
That designer didn't know jack about goats; they're extremely smart. It's sheep that are stupid.
He called her a goat, the sheep were all those girls who bought the clothes she modeled.
@@TheGroundedAviator And he was a wolf.
@@MsLogjam And a wolf isn't fussy about it's prey.
@@TheGroundedAviator It probably wouldn't go after a coyote; I don't think they're edible. A coyote is a better term for guys like this anyway, now that I think of it; wolves are actually noble creatures in the animal kingdom but coyotes are strictly opportunist and they never pick on anyone their own size.
@@MsLogjam Maybe, still a wolf would eat either a sheep or a goat.
Much too young to have a boyfriend the mother said? Geez, how old is this girl because I know she is an underage teenage girl but hearing the mother say that she is way too young to have a boyfriend; exactly how much of a young girl is this girl for her mother to say that? The teenage girl must be 13 or 14 or something
I think a big part of it was that she was jealous since she was abusing her daughter for that exact reason, jealous of her beauty
So there’s no surprise that she would do/ say anything to bring her down more
@@Jo-er6tw does everything that happen always have to be “You’re just jealous” answer for you people? Why is that always an answer? Let me ask you something because I have been using this example since I was 15: you have a job and you are working late at night. You happen to stumble across an office glass window and see inside someone standing over a dead body. What do you think happened in that office?
@@Jo-er6twWhat happened ? thanks
@@jaimeduncan6167 as far as I know the mother was abusing the daughter, the father treated her wounds and found out what the mom was doing
The girl passed away from her injuries and I guess the dad covered for the mom after all of that? It’s a crossover episode so I’m not 100% sure of the details
@@Jo-er6tw Thanks for the answer.
It should be a rule that WETv, BBC, and Sundance have to air the corresponding “Homicide” episodes of the three crossovers. Who remembers the other two?
Detective: are you going to shake the family tree till a pervert falls out😉
One of the darkest episodes of this series...a twist you don't see coming...true evil
Finally season 6 forward content, amazing
"Baby, it's you". The second Law & Order/Homicide: Life On The Street crossover.
You must have been a boy scout hahaha Lenny with the line of the day
"Clients want the Lolita-look. The whole point is selling clothes, but we made sure they'd keep them on"
.....Ray turns the page in the portfolio to a half-naked teenager
I’ve experienced looking a bit too old for my age. Got me a lot of places I didn’t wanna be (once in a hooker’s apartment at 16!)
Did anything come of that?
@@badtaketom7116 nah, she was pretty nasty looking anyway.
That was about me. I was able to pass for high school age in 6th grade. Only reason I never got into any trouble with it was cause I was such an introvert I never wanted to go out and do anything.
@@sdh1043 Same
...and? You can't leave strangers on the internet hanging 🤣
Finally we got some scenes of Rey Curtis
We got Rey Curtis finally but we also got a scam comment thread in the comment section too, sheesh
Well, hello, Detective Curtis.
“Britney was very innocent for her age *shows her in suggestive poses with little clothing*
People can be naked, or sexually suggestive and be innocent, it's not rocket science, you must have known.
@@quickeroats637 the words (sexually) suggestive and innocent seem to be an odd pairing, in my opinion
@@Swissswoosher You're unfamiliar with the concept of exploitation? Young boys and girls being forced to wear this and strike that pose, for money, for success, for future work? It's pretty much standard operating procedure.
@@ryans756 i am
@@Swissswoosher You're unfamiliar with the concept of exploitation? Then I envy your innocence.
Is this Munch's first appearance on Law & Order? Or was he in the first crossover?
He was in the first crossover as well.
This was not Munch's first appearance on Law and Order. In season 6 episode "Charm City" Bayliss and Pembleton visit the 27 tried to hijack their investigation. Munch goes to the suspect's home in Baltimore to get background info from his son
@@irishpogi Munch to the suspect's son: "I know you. You're the kid who shoves Santa back up the chimney. Who kicks the gift horse out of the barn. Hangs up on Ed McMahon, right?"
@@ryanloftis1125 yup.
Munches' character was still in homicide life on the streets at the time. This was a crossover of the two series.
Benjamin brett as curtis comeback in season 20 episode 11 FED
Nice video
Teenage and supermodel is oxymoronic.
Where is goren and Eames?
Not sure about eames but I'm pretty sure Goren was working in narcotics at this point
I don't think you know what an oxymoron is. If you did, you wouldn't have said such a blatantly incorrect thing. But go ahead. Given that virtually ALL supermodels start in their teens (13 to 19 don't forget), where are you getting oxymoronic from? The two go hand in hand ffs.
I will never, ever understand the idea of raping another person. The idea makes me cringe.
Thursday September 12th 2024----Here in Chicago Illinois USA 💯
Does anyone know where I can watch L&O seasons 1-12? Peacock only has seasons 13-22, hulu has 21, and amazon only has 1-2 and 16-21
Dan Hedaya?? They always had great casts😎😎😎
Where can I watch the fill episode
Over there.😒👉
omg are they finally going to put Homicide: Life on the Streets on a streaming service! Finally
Nope, don’t jump to conclusions, peacock still doesn’t have these shows that originally aired on nbc, so
Plenty of people criticize the sarcasm part of the show, put yourself in a detective's shoes with all of the horror that they have to deal with, sarcasm is a good mental health release. The case on the show was a prime example of when you sell your child for money to make them famous why would you expect things not to happen to them.
Sarcasm is a good mental release? What? No therapist on this planet ever advised anyone to "get a little more sarcastic -- it'll help you deal with the stress".
It's a TV show. The witty oneliners are there to entertain you, not bring up questions about PTSD and how to deal with it. You're like one of those Star Trek apologists who go to ANY length to justify some hole in the show's canon. "They had more advanced ships because, you see, the Kelvin timeline had offshoots, and one of them was blah blah stfu."
It's a TV show. Written by writers. Y'know?
Kinda reminds me of when a nurse got in trouble for making a silly, overdramatic tiktok about the frustration of having a patient die early in her shift.
Black humor and a certain amount of callousness is probably a necessary part of tough gigs but professionalism dictates keeping it to a minimum amongst the grieving family members.
@@ryans756 you understand that most people don't use only the healthiest coping mechanisms recommended by top therapists, right? Sarcasm & dark humor is extremely common among homicide detectives or anyone who deals with death regularly. It's especially common in war, soldiers and marines will joke about the most heinous things you couldn't imagine because it helps them desensitize enough to be able to do their job. Anyone regularly encountering awful things like homicide, drug addiction, and child abuse especially sexual abuse is going to have to desensitize to do their job. And humor is a useful tool to do that. And it becomes easy to forget there's a human being at the center of it with people who cared about them.
I work for the police and you can make those comments if you need the humor….in a closed office far away from civilians that are hurting. There is a time and a place
studies have been done that concluded that dark humour was and is used by people who witness traumatic events as part of their jobs. it's a coping mechanism of sorts
Why would you guys post this clip when you know it's not available to watch or stream anywhere?
Because. Heh heh heh.
epis number and season please
what episode is this?
Random but he was cher's dad in clueless
wasnt this epsiode based on a real story?
I'm fucking mad that this law and order its not on hulu
The new one is
Does anyone knows the season and episode?
Can't remember exactly, but it would be pointless anyway as this was a crossover with homicide life on the streets. That show isn't aired anywhere anymore.
Yes
3:29 ironic considering the actress isnt that good
I am 27 years old and people say all the time I look younger then I am
I knew models were young but i had no idea 12 to 14 year olds would be modeling that kind of outfit. Gosh kids must have been really crule to girls that age that were whenni was that age i cant imagine what they be like if they saw a her work
That designer is TINY!
IKR
Short, angry, weasel. Of course he is abusive
Why are always no ending of every episode?
I never get to see the second part of this one where everything is revealed.
For some reason, the other series was only ever aired once and never repeated. Which is a pain for the crossover episodes.
Does that model play one of Stablers daughters?
I think she was a little too old by then. This episode existed several seasons before svu was created.
@@nataliereeves3594 anyone know the name of the actress in this video?
A teenager looking like that? No doubt she will face a lot of problems. She’s underage and many other older men can take advantage even if they are aware or not aware of her being underage
What’s sad it was her own mother who abused her.
you literally don't offer season 8 on peacock.....
Who did it? Does anyone know it here?
The mother. She was abusing the daughter out of jealousy.
If shes a teenager I'm elvis presley
Is this referencing Brook Shields?
Man I love this Law and Order the OG. All the spin offs SVU CI etc look like poor imitations or knock offs.
This is the cross over episode with Homicide right?
Yes, which is why the second half is never aired frustratingly.
Teenaged modeling should be illegal.
So frustrating 🙆..who killed her!!??😡
Her mother
@@syvall Why?
@@petekdemircioglu she was jealous of her and abusing her, she didn't mean to kill her.
Please whodunnit?
N. F. W. Y. O. R
8th GRADE!!!!!!???? GIVE ME A FREAKIN' BREAK!!! Thats not even H.S. yet, and she's that "endowed"?
Heizq😡🤬😠😡😕🙁😢🍽️🍹🥢🥄🥡😟😍🥲
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