Here's How The Nurburgring Used To Look In The 1960's
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I always forget old school racing is more of a survival game.
haha spot on mate
at first I was hoping this includes the südschleife, then I thought the nordschleife is dangerous enough. at one point I felt like I would have enjoyed to experience the original track back then, but lapping this track was indeed more about survival than fun.
You almost had a better chance going at war and returning alive
Back when sex was safe und racing was dangerous.
@@eh86055 just a jk dude
makes you really appreciate why it's called "The Green Hell"
@ST- -MD If that name has been created all the way back i can absolutely see why its been named that
The nickname 'Grüne Hölle' was actually given to the track by Sir Jackie Stewart in 1960.
I guess the modern track is more "The Armco Hell".
That name seems much more appropriate on this version haha
Wanted to like, but it's at 666 likes so lol
"When/Where do I brake?"
Always a good question when you're going 200+.
I'll do you one better, WHO do I brake?
me at literally every corner of literally every circuit
@@MentalParadox I'll do you one even better, WHY do I brake?
If you find yourself asking, "how do I brake?", however, then racing may not be for you.
@@AliceC993 Yup. Just tell them where the pedal is, and suddenly they start asking a dozen questions per minute on all the theory and they still crash XD
"There is a grey blur and a green blur. I try to stay on the grey one."
I think this version of the Nurburgring suits Joey Dunlop's saying which I think was about the Isle of Man TT xD
It depends
That quote is from isle of man, yes
Flitz Dunlop was a cool guy. Just drove his final corner a few days ago. The flags and pictures are still there.
Boy how time flies...
“The big sad will happen”
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The large oof
Ik u lol
"There are no barriers here...just a tree"
Vlado Bokan “Does a good job of slowing you down, though.”
Noodles lmao
"there are no barriers here... just death"
We need more games with historic circuits like this. PCars had the right idea. Just something to expand on that more I guess.
There is a channel about old racetracks. They visit abondoned parts, or drive the public roads, that where part of it in the past. Forgott the name though.
@@skrlaviolette It's called Circuits of the past.
@@skrlaviolette Circuits of the past
Grandprix legends tried that and it was really cool but it is too outdated now.
The "idea" came from Grand Prix Legends. One of the best sims out there 20 years ago, probably played by many Pcars devs (for sure by a few, since their names were popular in the simracing communities back then, and you can clearly see the respect they have for that title since tracks like the old Silverstone or Rouen are clearly a tribute to it), or AC devs (I think Kunos too, or at least he regularly posted in the most important italian dedicated to simracing forums at that time) or modders. This version of the Ring was there too, and it was fantastic as well.
"So if you do have a crash, the crumple zone is your face" 😂
"People used to drive F1 cars here" Okay Jimmer, you know what you need to do now. Period appropriate F1 car at the 60's Nords please? :D
But he might die...
Of shock
@@nunobits12 like you can do better?
Andy Ward do people watch Clarkson, May, and Hammond because they’re the fastest drivers? Entertainment value is far more important.
Why do people have to be this mean?
@@nunobits12 Bell
The pinetree that Jackie Stewart uses to align himself with the carousel is there! The detail on this mod is outstanding!
Isn't that still there?
I recall lining myself up with one certain tree on the entrance to the Karussell.
@@ferrari2k Yes, that tree is still there. The first person to mention using it to line up entry into the carousel was Rudolph
Caracciola back in the 30's
@@cjspillmann5576 that tree had achieved quiet much in life for a tree
I hope the creators build the Südschleife too, so that the full old circuit can be run
There is a down load file for Sudschiefe in a video here on youtube. I have the track in Assetto Corsa now - but I don't remember which video the link was in. If you do a youtube search I think you will find it pretty easy.
It is going to be included in future updates ;)
The full combined course was used for the Marathon de la Route event in the late 1960s.
And in case using the full course wasn't hardcore enough, the event (It wasn't a race per se, as it was essentially the replacement for the Liège-Rome-Liège Rally.) was *84 HOURS* (or three-and-a-half days) in duration.
@@tomanderson6335 where Argentina showed the AMC Rambler American cousins three IKA Torino which one ended 1st but disqualified due to penalties.
Ah that is like the sister of Nordschleife. Thats a must!
You can see why they called it „Die grüne Hölle“ or The Green Hell. That is a scary circuit... I have to get this mod and start driving all the cars around it. Seems really fun to drive
"They" actually refers to Sir Jackie Stewart. He gave the Nordschleife its nickname back in 1960 :)
Full blown race with Lotus 49 and AI turned up to 11. We want's it, we needs it.
Will we see a ,,how fast can a 2019 F1 car lap the '60s Nordschleife?"?
@@nunobits12 can you please stop shitting on this comment section? This is to have fun
It would break.
@@nunobits12 funny thing is, Jimmer is doing twice as good as you are in life
He isn't tho. Better than you maybe
@@nunobits12 he most definitely is though. I don't really think you're out here getting chances to drive actual race cars, participate in actual karting events, etc
Amazing: this mod is still based on the old GPL track. I wonder how many people have worked on the meshes and textures to bring it up to this state... great work.
The Nordschleife Layout seen from above is exactly the same like it was build in 1927. They reshaped some jumps in 1970 reconstruction and added some run offs. But since then basically nothing changed. They had to add FIA Fences for the Spectator Areas some time ago, to keep it FIA approved. Biggest class allowed right now is GT3. And they are doing the F1 Lap Times of the mid 70s with those beast, if you calculate only the Nordschleife from T13 to Hohenrain. So GT3s have to be slowed down every year to keep em at roughly 8 Minutes in the VLN Layout with the shortened GP Track.
*sees old Nürburgring*
“I’m intrigued.”
*sees the 908 LH*
😍
Porsche 908 LH, the original L O N G B O I
The balls... the amount of BALLS those drivers must’ve had to drive full tilt on this track in those cars during that time period. Absolutely insane!
If this this track was still in the same state, FIA would have a heart attack everytime someone mentioned it
They still do, even in its curent state
*going flat out on a 60s race car*
"Where do i brake?"
Why would you brake? It makes it go slower!
Pretty much anywhere you want...it's not like the brakes are worth a damn anyway....
@@michaelmartin9022 you know, you got a point there!
Tree: It does a good job stopping you
But not very safely.
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is it just me or did TH-cam compression wreak havoc on the quality of this video in particular...?
yeah. lots of detail going very fast across the screen
Recorded at >60 FPS, YT Compression == 60FPS
Result: ARTIFACTING AND THE GAME GLITCH GREMLIN SHITTING ALL OVER IT lolz
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1:18 " The crumple zone...is your face!". Love it!
I really want someone to give Jimmer a track map of the Nürburgring and he has to put the corner names to their correct places. Would be a cool video.
"That's Hohe Acht actually"
Indeed - Jimmy - time to learn the sections!
150+ corners, lets go
Learn the sections from the official website, i won't do it because i don't see why i would, i know the track like the back of my hand but not the section names and that never stopped me from pushing a car to the limit
@@kiwicami287 If you drive the real circuit, you are advised to know them so you can report accident locations accurately to assist in getting emergency vehicles to the scene as rapidly as possible. Anyway, the terms refer to the local area and the construction of the track, so they're interesting in and of themselves.
I've always liked these older versions better than the new one. The twists and turns play a much larger role. You also gotta try the combined Nord/Sudschleife (the Gesamtstrecke). See how modern F1 would do there.
The answer: Oh shit Oh fuck
@@xander1052 Then, the holy power of S🅱️innala will be summoned.
@@not_herobrine3752 As will Sharl Lmao
Missing the Südschleife and the Steilstrecke tho... :(
Fun Fact: In early versions of the track the chicane at the end of the Döttinger Höhe (Hohenrain-Schickane, 11:05) didn't use to be there, it was flat-out onto the start-finish straight.
Dominus Circensis mod page on rd says south loop is coming in the future
Fun fact why would one add the Steilstrecke to a 1967+ version. And yes u right Hohenrain got added to the track in 1967 before than it used to be flat out
Cause in 1960 it was already prohibited to drive on the Steilstrecke during 'Touristenfahrten' and racing activities. Only exception was closed testing (§ 8 der Fahrordnung: „Nicht gestattet ist - außer bei genehmigten Versuchs- und Trainingsfahrten oder Rennen - das Befahren der Steilstrecke (27 %)) '§8 of the drive order/driving arrangement: it is prohibitet to - except for approved test- and training rides/drives and races - to drive on the Steilstrecke (27° gradient)
Coming in the future ;)
Isn’t Steilstrecke at 7:27 in the video?
good old memories! I still remember how i used to play GT Legends and download mods and old Nordschleife was my favorite to drive with old pantera GTS
Thnx, Jimmy for reminding those cool old moments!
10:33 That is most likely the hump Hans Laine fatally somersaulted his AAW Racing Porsche 908/2 back in 1970.
I went to Drivers school on the Ring in 1969. The second day I totaled my Alfa Romeo 1300 GT Jr at the Schwalbenschwanz. That hurt and still does. Rolled it 1.5 times. I did drive it again a couple of years later with a buddy in an Endurance race. We had an outclassed American spec Opel Manta.
Thanks for posting this for us Jimmy. I can't wait to give this a try this weekend.
I got genuinely nervous when I imagined trying to overtake something on this track. Bonkers. Good fun though!
I've found this channel yesterday and I'm already in love with your content. Keep up the awesome work!
I remember reading an interview about the Nurburgring with someone like John Surtees in an old issue of Motorsport or something. This was around the time GPL came out so the average gamer did not know the circuit. The thing that stuck with me was how he said in the 60s they would catch air at least 4 times a lap. With a recreation of the old track like this I can believe it.
This takes me back to the good old GPL days, hands up sub-8 crew!
Jimmer, I know I can't speak for everyone but I REALLY enjoy watching you learn the track like this instead of just the hotlap.
Great video, again!
Dude, your pedal work is slick. I learned something watching this, so thanks. As another sim racer who has done some laps at the real Green Hell, it's great to see what it looked like in yesteryear, feeling somewhat more connected to it now.
2nd Carousel must have been fun after a rain storm.
Jimmy i just wanted to say im so glad to see you come so far, i just noticed this video pop up in my recommendations and it the first video ive seen by you, so the thumbnail is quite fitting to this occasion 2 years since i first watched this video back in june 2020, my first jimmy broadbent video, anyway Jimmy congrats on becoming the real life racer we all know and love.
Awesome, Jimmy. Downloading this bad boy right now.
The hedges... just beautiful. I remember watching old vids of cars ripping into them and getting tossed upward. Strong these roots are. Great vid sir! The two off track saves were dope to see! Also, would have run the same line through that late stage turn before the 2nd carousel myself.
Leo Kinnunen, World Sportscar Champion together with Pedro Rodriguez in 1970, spent a lot of time in my hometown of Turku, Finland (Jarno Saarinen was also from Turku) and I met with Leo several times especially in the early-2000s. We spoke a lot about his experiences in the Porsche 917K, in the Interserie Porsches and also his brief visit in Formula One. He spoke about the Nordschleife being a terrifying place in the 1960s and 1970s. Particularly bad for him was that he lost his good fellow and compatriot Hans Laine there in 1970. Even though Leo passed away a couple of years ago, I'm sure he would have been astonished to see this video and also other videos done by Jimmy.
amazing vid mate! really cool to see how the old nord was, never really had a youtuber really show it/talk people through it, Mod or not. keep it up mate :)
Nice throwback. Killer footwork. Classic Porsche. What more could you want? Great video.
Absolutely amazing. I have to try it as soon as possible. I love the old-school historic circuits in AC
Your assetto corsa videos are always your best!
This was the Nordschliefe back when it was properly scary, including the brow at Brunchen (now TH-cam corner).
There is no more youtube corner. Just call it Brünnchen 2
*Brünnchen ;)
@@xARMM4G3D0Nx Fixed =)
@@xARMM4G3D0Nx Not easy to type an umlaut on a UK system!
"Nordschleife". "Schleife" means "Loop".
Jimmer "Now we can really open her up coming over the crest here back down the hill" Broadbent
Great video. My father raced a Ford P68 back in the 68 1000km race.
I think the old school one was insane...and a 908 was one hell of a fast death trap
that was fun!
I was fortunate to have visited a Group-C weekend in the last year of the old start/finish section in the 80s and I can tell you, it was a great spectator's track, especially when you had admission to the "island" between the two long straits. So you could literally look into H.-J. Stuck's cockpit twice per lap. Great show.
Jimmy would be such a good commenter. Really smooth intros.
looking good jimmer!!
Please do more laps on this circuit with different kind of old cars, this is something what I've been waiting for years!
"there is a literal wall there... if you make a mistake"
literally every corner of monaco
(and most street circuits for that matter)
Monaco is slower, and very shorter, with commissars every 20 yards, a pilot can run to his stand from every point of the circuit. . When Lauda had his accident, nobody saw it and he was saved by another drivers..
This brings back memoried. I ogiginaly learned the Nord in GPL back when it was the only game that had it.
I first saw the Nordschleife on Project Gotham Racing 4. My first experience with it was driving the light car company rocket around there during what is essentially a blizzard.... Good times.
Me: It'll be great to see what the old Nurburgring looks like!
TH-cam Compression: nah
Bit of a fun fact seeing the 60s dunlop tyres on this car, My grandad made the tires for this car, and F1 cars back then. He worked at Fort Dunlop in Birmingham, he told me it used to take them a whole day to make 1 F1 tyre!! Grandad has no passed sadly 2 years ago, but will forever be proud of this little story he told me :)
I remember driving this circuit in GPL. There were a few more jumps back in that version, and being GPL, it was scary af. I was totally addicted to it.
Jimmy your a boss behind that wheel homie!!!
I love how all the trees are less colorful too. Because you know, it's old, back then everything was black and white 😀
0:55 haha good reference to auto-addiction ! 😂😉
Looks like an extremely fun Sunday drive
Life before social media was a complete joy.
I knew about the jump at the Bruennchen because Derek Bell mentions it on the "In-Car 956" video. First time I've actually seen a representation of it though.
ive been having so much fun with this track lately. had some really good racing with the ai actually
Hurry up and get your house built !! I'm excited to see your videos in a whole room attached to an entire house and out of that shed brother !! I swear you mentioned saving for a house in a video a while ago or am I crazy ?
This was nice!
Are they gonna include the Südschleife in the future?
It sure did look like they carefully modelled the places where the Sudschleife connected to that central loop, didn't it?
Unfortunately it seems like there isn't a whole lot of photographic documentation of the circuit, and it was not preserved when the complex was modernized.
@@zerobandwidthYes, but its blocked off..
I found a video from 197x from a lap around the südschleife. Theres also this channel called 'circuits of the past' that shows a bit about it! If someone adds the südschleife, I'm the happiest man on earth
the modder said it was in the future plans to add it. fingers crossed
I actually never knew there was a sudschleife, what the hell
@@kiwicami287 lmao, yeah. It's the forgotten part of the nürburgring. You can find some really interesting stuff by googling it
Would be cool if you could make a playlist with the old classic circuits. I loved the one where you took on Old Spa-Franchorchamps, with the Mantra V12. Really nice
one of my fav vids of yours.
This is awesome!
looking good fam
Much bumpier back in those days. Among others, there was a big bump on the fast bit before the karusell and the bridge which you noticed in the Brunchen section. Remember being pleased completing one lap without a fatal accident in Grand Prix Legends.
This is livestream level comedy. Liking the vids jimmy.👌👌
That was really cool!!
The südschleife, which was the other one that connected to it at the time, was pretty crazy too. But not many people talk about it.
Good god Jimmer you look dapper!
@10:18 It is called Betonschleife - Concrete Loop - because the GP circuit was build in the 80ies. The Südschleife - South Loop - is missing on this track but was available until the early 70ies.
Just imagine what sort of horror had to happen on those last corners of Green Hell, so that they actually bothered to put some barriers in there.
OMG Jimmy's turned into the frontman of Bastille!
There's a youtube vid somewhere with people crashing Beetles and assorted Opels there in the 60's. They used to keep so much crap in their cars, picnic hampers, blankets and all sorts flying out...
Sometimes the people, too.
Amazing! Thanks! And indeed, "The Green Hell".
I'd wish more games had historic racing cenarios, 20s-60s circuits and cars
Those graphics are amazing 😆😆😆😆
6:30, I like to call that turn "so u think u can drive" cuz when I first started driving the ring I always thought I could take it flat cuz it looks like it
The 908 is a pretty well balanced car in the 1967 GT mod for GPL
Loving the 908! One of the best looking Porsche racing cars outside of the 917.
Alot of Porsche's are very well designed from an aesthetic and aerodynamic standpoint. The 956 is my personal favorite out of all the prototype and GT cars next to the 911 GT1
I have so much respect of my grandfather. Just driving there with his F1 car must have been crazy.
love it !!
next time the Südschleife ??
Awesome video! I just downloaded this track the other day. I lapped a 6’35 in the VRC Jordan 191 F1 car (7up F1 car). You should try it, it’s a real challenge
Amazing how Jimmy can talk incessantly without running off the circuit. :-D
I ran the heck out of this track in this configuration in GP Legends. It's always been a great track.
so clean and epic charity boi
This is fantastic. Hopefully they will do the old Spa circuit. I was taking on a tour round it last year. What an absolute beast that was. Lots of flat out curves and generally scary shit.
There is actually a 60s Spa AC mod around
I would love to see the classic Bathurst track that they had in the 70's. Over 60 cars on the grid. Racing down the old Conrod straight in the Torana or Cobra would be epic!!
Great mod. Looks like it would be extra scary in VR
It's crazy to think that, in 1968, Jackie Stewart won here by over 4 minutes in an F1 race with rain, fog and rivers running across the track.
As a relativly new viewer, I'd love an explanation of what Jimmy's feet are doing. Like that cross between the middle and the right pedal when going through the corner. Looks absolutely mental.
Heel and toe.
It's a technique for continuing to apply pressure on the brake pedal, but also blipping the throttle to match the revs while downshifting (using left foot for the clutch).
Because you used to keep the heel of your foot on the brake, and used your toe to blip the accelerator. It was necessary more when double-clutching in a non-synchromesh transmission; where you HAD to match the revs or the gear wouldn't go in; with a synchro transmission it's more about keeping the car smooth and not putting extra load or rapid deceleration through the transmission (leading to wear/breakage, or axle/wheel hop if you suddenly decelerate the drivetrain), for performance gain rather than necessity.
Modern drivers rarely use it, because very few racing cars have a clutch pedal, so left-foot braking has become more prevalent. Until 15 years or so ago however, many professional racing drivers still right-foot braked, with heel-toe. Nowadays professionally it's pretty much only seen in NASCAR, and in V8 Supercars where drivers want to optionally use the clutch to downshift (and of course, historic racing).
Yeah, GPL represent! Nice car too. I'm hearing such good things about asetto corsa.
Hey Jimmy !
This is my absoulte favorite porsch of all time !
gota love the old 24 hrs of le mans movie ! with steve mc queen.
nice content as allways.
you could have mad the suspension a little bit more stiff
greetings
TommyLongtail XD