Can I Beat Senna's Adelaide Pole Lap?
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Senna may have had to endure the danger of driving the real car, but he never dealt with the dreaded Microsoft USB noises. A true inspiration here.
that is irritating
Yep. I always look over at the bottom right to see if something's disconnected.
I thought it was my mouse!
What do you talking about?
@@jorge_781 The sound at 10:39
Scariest part of all of this is that Senna did it for real, first time out. Maddening
And that's why he died. Reckless.
@Rachel Wood Agreed, and to built off it.. To say Senna was reckless, isn't wrong but that shouldn't come off as a negative trait per say. He drove without fear, he was a True racing driver, might it have gotten him killed, sure a case could he made. And, as tragic as it is, he died being who he was, He was the driver without fear and would always push if it meant winning or going faster.
Senna didn’t do it first time out. He had 3 hours of free practice and 2 hours of qualifying to build up to it.
@@nuno_alex505 thats why he died? Are you fucking stupid??
@Rachel Wood that is way they was killed, talent make you go very fast. The slow guys do not get killed. Haha
This is just 18 minutes of Jimmy flexing on us with his heel and toe skills
Man I need to get into sim-racing, that looks fun as hell!
God it's such a surprise to find you here
Captain Harlock Dude has taste
The Racing Monkey Please do, I‘d watch the crap out of that
Yea leave forza its kinda well. Dead
Please do, I am also a beginner sim racer and I'd love to watch someone on the same level as me haha
faster than Senna - it just took about 40 broken cars :D
Senna had to do this in real life....with 1 car on the first try with real G forces. It took a world class TH-cam driver 100+ tries and 40+ broken cars to replicate it in a sim. If that doesn't show you how far Senna was ahead o the field....I don't know what will.
I bet if Senna was alive and racing this sim...he would smash his own record bc he can do crazy stuff and start crashing cars too XD
Also the fact that riding that curb b4 the straight gave him a shitload of time reduction
@@DJUwU To be fair to jimmers, Senna *did* have over a hundred tries in the MP4/4, just not necessarily in Australia, as this was the last race of the season, so the crashing was more a part of the ehem, "accelerated learning process"
No g force either
@@leonkennedy346 yeah but he also had the danger of a crash,g forces,no power steering and many more factors that made it a looooooooot harder.this is just a game
"Why don't I drive Automobilista more?"
My exact words every time I fire up AMS.
Next day: "Oooh, new ACC update, lets se what that's about"
ACC is this game pretending to be a sim ?
FromZeroToDriftHero acc is a sim
The Original Assetto Corsa is better I think
You need to try the "Throttle Pulse" technique that Senna used. He keep pulsing the throttle during the curve, keeping the traction at the limit. It was a "Manual Traction Control". It also helped to keep the Turbo at high speed, helping at the acceleration at the curve exit.
Sorry about my english here. Still learning.
Both me and my dad do this and it seems to work quite well. Part of what makes it viable is that when you lift, the weight of the car shifts forward, which will increase rotation, and then the next blip supplies you with enough power to keep pace.
Jimmy: "It has to be a perfect lap."
Me:
Jimmy:
Me:
Jimmy: *dies*
Grow up
@@Wings_of_foam I don't need to. People actually find me funny
@@SWR_Quackula Yeah, im not surprised.
@@Wings_of_foam See? I can even be bothered to put apostrophes in my sentences.
Thor Soele shut up it’s a joke
Just thought I would mention that I was there for the Senna lap. At the end of the straight in qually everyone was breaking at the 75m point. Senna was flat till the 50m.
Nonsense.
@Rylee :3 he didnt spout anything he gave his opinion i think you just need to chill
Nobody likes a liar, mate. The braking difference between car and driver was 3 - 5 metres at most. It still is today.
@@ferglesnerk yeah mate, as good as Senna was, 25m difference in breaking point is just too good to be true.
@@ferglesnerk I have a seen a greater difference in WRC with Sebastien Loeb to the field at a straigth in Algarve. It was so ridiculous people actually screamed he was going to crash :D
this really goes to show how good senna was. RIP Legend
You know it's a quick lap when the third person camera appears
"Its all or nothing now..."
- Instantly crashes into the pit entry wall 😂
Great driving tho Jimmer.
Btw I cant even imagine how scary it had to be to drive this car in real life around these tracks.
Great vid Jimmer, the other thing to keep in mind is Senna had injured his wrist in a soccer match prior to the Grand Prix weekend, and had it heavily strapped up for this lap.
Prost was only a tenth slower than Senna's time followed by Noige, some 1.7 seconds behind...
17:34 Senna was pissed
Matteo Foianini Aidan millward
I get it!
Good meme. Good old Millward
Roberto Moreno...
Senna... ... ... Was pissed.
'It took driving like there was no consequence...' That right there is why in part Senna was so good. He did not fear what could happen. Well done Jimmy!
This really puts it into perspective. Senna did this with all of the risks and still managed an unbelievable pace. Incredible.
the fact Senna did this in one lap and without mistake truly amazes me
Regarding the small text speculating the engine could've had 900-1,000 HP - Not in '88. A 2.5 bar absolute boost limit was implemented in 1988, and would limit the engine to under 700. In '87, the boost limit was 4 bar, and those higher numbers were more realistic, but the Honda motor was not in the McLaren that year.
"statistically the most dominant car" yea that aged well... 😢
Cool to see that toward the end of the video he even starts fidgeting with the throttle through corners like senna did. Funny to see him adopting a senna-like driving style to beat sennas lap.
Yes, I'm a year late. I didn't see anyone else mention this so I felt the need.
16:15 is when the magic show begins. Awesome effort Jimmy!
*laughs in red bull rb19*
Jimmer, as a suggestion for these types of videos at the end. I’d love to see a side by side comparison of your lap vs the real life lap you were trying to beat. I don’t know if copyright would allow it but it would be cool to see where you gained/lost vs real life.
This guy should commentate for Sky sounds like a young murray walker!
And its GO GO GO
If you watch senna drive his lap he's never going straight he dances with the car the hole time sliding the car into the corners I never seen any other driver do that
That was called "traction control", with the remarkable difference that when Senna was doing it, it was not automated, but his skill. Same with Schumacher and his left-foot braking he learnt from Kart driving, which was used extensively at Rallying at the time.
The car is not "dancing", the car is losing and recovering grip, all the time. He was only beaten when a guy who lost less traction than him came around, doing the "unthinkable" thing that gave him that little edge. Schumi shown Senna that the secret to being faster was NOT losing and recovering grip quickly, but NEVER losing that grip.
@@sombraarthur oooo you mean he showed him when he still had TC on his car. Your analyst is wrong Senna would slide the car intentionally this is why he would burp the throttle over and over into the corner. If Schumacher did not have the tc he had he could not hold a candle to Senna.
@@sombraarthur Even I could beat Senna with the 1994 Benneton. The car had much better traction and stability. The only advantage of the Williams was on the straights...it had a better motor. Senna was doing miracles to keep with Schumacher at those three initial races...you can see him absolutely on the edge and maybe it was one of the reasons he got killed.... if he accepted second place on those first races later he would win the championship because the Williams sorted out the problems and the car was much better. Even Damon Hill challenged Schumi. Senna was 10 times better than Hill
@@digiman76 that is where you are wrong, mate. Schumacher introduced new techniques like left-foot braking and he was able to keep his foot on the power much much more than Senna.
What I find funny is that Niki Lauda said something alike what you said "even I could drive those cars" and then when he did, he spun out faster than the 0-100km/h accel time of an F1.
Senna died because a lot of things had gone wrong, it was a complete catastrophy that happened, from a lower car due to colder tyres to fracture of the suspension and steering column, lack of a run-off area, the wall at a really steep angle and so forth. Take away one or two of those variables and he might had lived.
Damon challenged Michael, because Schumi had been disqualified for two races and banned in other two. Otherwise, Schumi would have won that champioship in 1994 with a foot and both hands tied to his back, had Williams fixed that car or not.
@@sombraarthur Benetton was a better car than Williams in 94. Fact.
Senna was a mad man. Holding the car at it's absolute limits around every corner. The telemetry from his fastest laps are mental.
As someone from Adelaide who’s uncle helped manage the race, this is really special to me, thank you for doing this. Senna’s photo is still up in La Trattoria, an Italian restaurant on King William road in Adelaide from when he visited. Good history, good stuff.
1:09 “Can I beat Senna’s pole?” - That’s what he said
Hi Jimmy, the 1988 MP4/4 the regulations allowed only 2.5 bar manifold pressure, compared to 4 bar in 1987 and unlimited in 1986. This restricted maximum power of the Honda engine to around 675hp. The fuel tank was restricted to 150 litres, which meant that the race power was around 610-630hp. There is an SAE paper on the Honda RA168E written by Honda R&D.
The RA167E from 1987, with 4 bar manifold pressure, had a maximum power of around 1,000hp.
Ayrton Senna foi uma lenda, um ídolo brasileir, tinha que ter culhão pra pilotar um carro desse, naquela epoca era só braço. Abraço do brazil🇧🇷🖤👌🏿
Brilliant brilliant driving Jimmy! Thanks a lot for this great effort/review and appreciation of what stratospheric levels those men had risen to. When Alain Prost says he never drove faster than was needed (after witnessing Gilles death), one can understand it more easily after seeing what you just did. It is also a sad reminder of why Senna and Gilles are unfortunately not with us any more.
Same situation here when I drive mate, sweat, fatigue, cramp mental stress ... lap after relentless lap.
You might want to try the rfactor2 1988 mod for the same machines - it is a scary scary work of art.
Crash list
7:37 - idk wtf happend
7:53 - lost control
10:45 - "the sad wheel"
11:22 - "Something's missing"
11:36 - Sbinalla
14:06 - hit the boxes entrance
14:21 - "Jesus"
15:20 - "the perfect lap" proceeds to die
16:01 - "Fuck, fuck, fuck"
On the top crash he heel and toed to aggressive and over revved the engine killing it
Congrats Jimmy.
Currently, the F1 drivers don`t work like 90's (without belittling them). It was unbelievable how the drivers drove.
I love when the sponsor really has something to do with the youtuber. It seems like a great arcade racing game
I love the way you're driving and focusing, it's just pleasing to watch, great driver jimmer, keep it up
Fun fact - even excluding the pit lane/chicane complex, you can't drive the Adelaide GP layout outside of race weekends. The city council blocked East Terrace at Turn 6 to specifically stop people doing this 😥
If Jimmer would've done this irl he would've died at 10:49 chasing a mid 1:19. Absolutely mad to think of the danger the drivers went and faced willingly.
150 kmh against the barrier? dunno, legs gone for sure but maybe still alive.
@@nakekygt954 right after he went upside-down, on top of the barrier. Without sonething like a halo to save you that's almost certainly a crushed neck
@@oxey_ I agree but if you look closely the car goes through the fence, that probably would'nt happen the car was not that fast anymore, the fence would hold him from going over that concrete wall and having his neck crush.
@@CAnAbrAvA2011 hmm nice catch there
As an Adelaide resident... I Fucking miss the GP track!! East end markets and the apartments around there have all changed over the years though!
Great vid again Broadbent!
Jimmy at my home track!? Be still my beating heart! 😍😍😍
This is amazing, I’m sat here watching the video and did that thing where you’ve been up too long and phased out. Genuinely thought I was watching a 1989 grandprix. Your voice is exactly like Murray Walker.
The real life track seems to be much more bumpy judging from the cockpit camera footage of the 91 season.
0:08 Dale Earnhardt's Goodwrench #3 has to be up there for famous racecar liveries
When they put the pop off valve on the Turbos, it severely cut into their power. That same Honda V6 in the 86 season could in a qualifying engine get over 1,000 horsepower. I think that genuinely was the peak of the Turbo era, and you are right, the V10s never cracked 1,000 horses, although I think in 1994, they jumped engine horsepower back to over 900, with catastrophic results for Senna.
That record breaking lap, I was watching your throttle inputs and it looks a lot like Senna's technique. He would stab the throttle through corners to keep the car in boost and to drive to the limit of the tires. Great work, keep it up.
"... where Häkkinen had his absolutely massive crash in 19 ... 45." :D
That might explain why he still looks like he's fresh from British F3...
Look up turn 8 crashes at Adelaide. The corner is lethal. When Hakkinen crashed there the barrier was set in deeper. Scary stuff.
It was Senna,
Whut the freakin heck were you thinking!?
I'm just gonna let that sponsor segment go because I love you Jimmy
The MP4/4 had a Honda RA168E and produced 685 bhp:
"Although the absolute output of the RA167E is certainly impressive, it is relatively less potent than the 1988 engine. The regulations in effect in 1987 permitted the RA167E to use a boost pressure of 4 bar (rather than only 2.5 bar as permitted the following year), and 195 litres of fuel (rather than 150 litres) that were allowed in 1988. Leaving aside the smaller amount of fuel available in 1988, the reduction in boost pressure alone would suggest that the RA168E should produce no more than 630 hp., rather than the 685 hp which the Honda’s engineers actually achieved.
Torque figures for the RA168E are also impressive with a maximum of 313 ft lb (a) 10,000 rpm, but the really astonishing aspect of the torque curve is not its peak figure but the incredible flatness and spread of power. Over 295 ft lb were available all the way from 8000 to 12,000 rpm."
I met senna in 88 or 89 at Adelaide in the pits. Dad worked for elf and senna was driving the lotus the camel one... anyway I got in I was 18 and met him. I have a photo somewhere of him..I took.
I sat in the breaking zone at the end of the straight. Just before the hairpin. The turbos were so loud my ears rang for days.
Mum was one of the nurses looking after Mika Hakkinen after his crash. The only thing she ever told me was "he's very short" 😂 so glad people remember this track, I wish I was old enough to see the F1 version (born 94 so obviously no memory), and now the Premier is getting rid of the V8 version so yeah, two entire events destroyed by government.
I was there when Senna, Prost, Hakkinen and Hill raced in Adelaide. I actually heard the Hakkinen crash. Awesome track and a nice place to live (17 years), just rather hot in summer. I prefer this track to MELBOURNE.
Jimmy and Adelaide GP, I've been waiting for so long!
The respect you showed to senna earned you a sub
You started doing Senna’s famous corner throttle technique...finally we have the key
"Apparently this senna guy is pretty quick, who knew"
- Jimmy 2020
It’s mad seeing my apartment on a game😂😂 only being 18 I missed the F1 days but I’m always watching the v8s when they go screaming around Adelaide
I worked in a hospitality tent in '88 and '92, at the end of the main straight. The screaming of the engines during the rapid-fire gear changes during braking was amazing. Mansell's car was utterly deafening - seriously painful.
Edit: To clarify, it was the very long back straight, not the pit straight.
0:11 debatable with the black number 3 and the blue and red 43
Gotta work that punta taco, mate!!! Senna used to pump the gas to get the rotations closer to the ideal
Very well mate, very humble. Keep up the good work
i see the crash, then james bond's no time to die is advertised.
ironic
Senna is an absolute legend and a hero to me, it's almost a slap in the face to me when car games and simulators take the sponsorship off of the MP4/4 because that car means so much to me. I'm glad automobilista leaves the Marlboro on there.
It's all about keeping that boost peaked at all times. U gotta feather that throttle
This aged like milk
It was the 4th gear right hander where you hopped the curb like it didnt exist and decided to NOT hit the wall on the left for once. Pretty much did it
"Can I beat Senna's pole" best thing I've heard you say Jimmy! 😂
Have you considered doing a video on the equipment you use?
And maybe suggesting different setups at different price points?
11:33 - i like how the rear tyre is missing but its shadow isn't 😂
Yup, there is a reason why Adelaide in it's F1 form is consider to be the best inner city based street circuit in the world where the teams and drivers get to do proper racing, and it was a true form of man, and machine. On a side note, Adelaide has the record of having the shortest F1 race........... Ever.....
I mean you’re faster than senna, what are you doing in your shed Jimboi, skip the whole karting thing😂
Greetings from Adelaide Jimmy!
The sad......wheel. Absolute classic🤣😂 You have to make that into a T-shirt Jimmy! Do it for an Adelaide local that was at every one of the F1 races and the 99/00 Le Mans series race!
A good one to try would be Senna’s time with the ASR Formula’s McLaren MP4/5 beta V0.7 at Suzuka in rFactor 2(car not available in workshop but from their website(track from workshop)).
nice video Jimmy, cheers from Brazil 😊
Good job Jimmy got there in the end
To be fair Senna and the other real drivers had the benefit of feeling absolutely every minute thing the car did in their bodies, as if it was an extension of their bodies. Every little sensation that you're never gonna get with a sim rig like that, makes it harder to predict the cars behaviour without that stuff... But boggles my mind who the hell would voluntarily drive like that in real life, that is truly deadly!
At some point you gotta mention the senna foundation which helps children in unfortunate circumstances in Brasíl.
Hey Jimmy you should do these Pole Challenges for the whole 2020 F1 Season as it progresses. They were my favourite part of the channel and I think it would be very popular
I understand this excitement. I do time trials in GT6
Nice work done Jimmy! 👏👏👏👏👏
Imagine : You had no G-Force banging on you, not the unbearable hot of the engine in your back, your life was not on the line.
You literally died several times trying to just drive as fast as him IRL.
As a Brazilian who lives in Adelaide, thank you!
turns out he’s pretty quick☠️☠️☠️
Senna was one of the best, if not the best..Good work Jimmy
I met Senna back late 80s early 90s here in Norfolk when I was only 10 years old.
I bet if he had been alive today he would have trained lots of new Talent and F1 would not have been the way it is.
I certainly would have chose a career path differently to what I am in at the moment which is nursing but I can still race when I want to and do still dabble in it... I don't need a games console to say hey how quick I am because you can't press reset in real life...fact
When a jimmer goes silent, u know it's gon be serious
Loved it Jimmie. Big Senna fan. Does that car come with automobilestya?
Senna’s pole time on the long layout is faster than the Supercars lap the modern shorter version.
Wild looking back now that he’s a real racing driver
You need to Dance with it "Senna's F1 Car Samba"
If it wasnt for that mistake on the last corner, and some other saves in some corners, he was going to beat Senna's lap by almost 1 second
Something about this channel i cant stand i dont even watch the videos never have but whenever i see this channel get recommended i have a fever for a week and have to take antibiotics
outside views actually look a little senna-esque with the car dancing, nice lap m8
I wish they add this track back to Formula One
Senna pumped the gas while braking to keep the turbo revs high and increase acceleration out of corners.
Hey there, nice video. You are laboring yourself excessively, drivers those days did not use clutch while driving. Although H pattern, the dog box gears ensured you dont need clutch while on the move. Left foot on brakes, right foot on gas. Little lift of on upshift and slight blip on downshift. Raced h pattern single seaters myself, did the same.
what I always find crazy is how these real drivers were able to get those cars to be near the limit, with the risk of big accidents if they made the smallest mistake in cars that are anything but safe
McLaren only won 15 out 16 times with the 1 occasion being at monza, where nigel mansells subsitute driver crashed into senna while being lapped. As it turned out this gave the lead to the red cars in the first gp since enzo died. Wins for drivers was like this. Senna 8 Prost 7 . Also i need to see the 98t around adelaide because that title decider was epic. Formula 1, please give us adelaide.
"Apparently this Senna guys was pretty quick" this sentence sent me, didn't he knew Senna?
I live here and wish I could’ve seen it but it was moved to Melbourne before I was born