Oh good, I almost closed the video right there thinking "Why would he make a comparison and not use the 9900k 51M? Is this some kind of rigged MSI comparison?". Luckily I checked comments. Now I can watch this video not thinking it will soil my braincells.
Are you kidding? Whats up with the lower RAM and speed difference of RAM??? And the WLAN Module should also be the same... This makes big differences!!!!
yeah i'm happy as well. Getting my alienware 51m in a few days it's got the i7 9700k with RTX 2080 32gb ram 144hz screen. get it for around 3,000 in usd. edit: 3,127.37 usd
@@Grimmjow19872 Yeah I really like it. The screen is 144fps but it says on Overwatch that its 159 fps. I cant go back to my 60 fps laptop no way. After i downloaded all the windows updates and alienware software updates it has not had any problems. The 17 inch screen is much better than my old 15 inch, see way more in games. The tobii eye tracking is interesting but there are not many games that use it. Hope you find the right laptop. gotta say this one has had no problems.
Just a note to Titan owners. MAKE SURE TO ALLOW BIOS UPDATES!!!!!! OK sorry about that. Anyway, the early bios in it limited the GPU to 150 (something around that) watts and you had to change it manually. Apparently, not a lot of folks knew that (I didn't until I checked out the bios as a curiosity) but the later Bios files set the 200-watt TDP as default. Supposedly had something to do with Optimus. OK now rerun your favorite benchmarks if you never made the switch to the 200-watt option and didn't allow bios updates. Huge improvement. EDIT - Later bios files set the TDP to 200 watts and the option was removed from the bios.
Both computers are fantastic machines. I like the MSI just a bit more. Now I'm not a gamer but want to use that GT76 for video editing. It's perfect for that. Can't wait for the day when I get to pull the trigger, hopefully soon before MSI comes out with something bigger and better.
Not a fair comparision with i7 9700 vs 9900 I am sorry first of I had Alienware area 51m and it cannot handle i7 9900 at all I had to send mine back as it was constantly throttling. My only advice to people getting this machine is stick with 9700 as per this video if you get 9900 Alienware cooling is not sufficient
I have a 51m, full specs. No problems yet in terms of thermals, cooling pad elevated, max fan profile, 65-75c max under full load. I could under-volt by -.140. But I haven’t felt the need.
The Area 51m is like a UFO when adding some sweet RGBs. The machine does intense gaming with ease than the other machines. Plus even though the fire strike test which the 51m falls down a bit, but putting games into this beast means it can deliver with juicy high FPS, and still it's like some sort of Desktop inside a powerful machine. But although to be fair, the specs of the 51m which is the CPU is a little less powerful than the MSI i9-9900HK but still awesome video but I'm not too sure if I really want to buy a machine that is extremely powerful.
Pretty sure they did that for thermal performance (extra rads and airflow), function over form as if I'm not mistaken, the Alienware runs hotter than the MSI
still perfer 51m probably the most repairble desktop replace laptop others have the cpu/gpu wielded on the motherbord but 51m is replaceble which means when something happens to cpu/gpu/motherbord ,only replace the broken parts, other laptop?good luck with ur wallet
I have the area 51m.Only thing I don’t like about the build is they used glossy plastic on the bezels and front grille. If your not careful that material scratches very easily. Plus dell uses loctite on the screws. So if you try to put in a new drive be careful or you could strip a screw. Happened to me.
That wasn't exactly a fair comparison being that one of them had 64gb of memory and a 9900k, but it's funny because it lost all the gaming benchmarks and probably costs more.
@@loading...7583 because a lot of peeps are just spewing bs on forums and YT. Non of these people even own the unit. My unit should arrive anytime now. Will post a few reviews!
nope. not true, I haven't had any issues with overheat at all. the fans are so damn powerful its ridiculous.. on second thought, I think the issues you are talking about are with the i7 9900, not the stock i7 9700 version that most people have. I have the i7 9700 version and its really the better option at the moment if you get the 51m from what I know, at least til they fix it? im NOT an expert though.
Honestly, mine runs lap cool. I was expecting it to be too hot for that. But was surprised. I don't game with it one my lap, but think I could, at least for some games. The fans do a good job moving air. For normal like surfing the net, or watching videos it's silent and smooth.
The thing I’m most concerned with because I’m looking at buying one of these is thermals which are not mentioned here at all. I’ve been searching and the few videoed I can find the Msi is running a little cooler 3-7degrees depending. Also while upgradeable Nvidia hasn’t used the same architecture once in all there revisions so good luck upgrading the gpu and Intel will be going to a different chip socket soon as well. Difficult descion at this point especially with Msi g75 raider and Asus Zephyrus both of those are cheaper and still great performance
I’m curious as well, but I was watching a video (can’t remember which one now) that showed by undervolting by just -0.15 V the Alienware could achieve about 15 or so degrees cooler than stock
Excellent review on 2 awesome extreme desktop replacement notebooks. MSI GT76 Titan DT-039 is the notebook for me over the Alienware Area 51M due to offering a 4k UHD screen. MSI GT76 Titan DT-039 can be maxed out at 128 GB DDR4 @ 2666 MHz vs. Alienware Area 51M's 64GB DDR4 @ 2400 MHz max memory. Also the MSI GT76 Titan has 3 PCIe 3.0 NVME M.2 slots versus Alienware Area 51M only having 2 PCIe 3.0 NVME M.2 slots . MSI GT76 Titan DT-039 is also much easier to disassemble then the Alienware Area 51M (which is a nightmare to disassemble) for component upgrades or replacements. I own both notebooks & my MSI GT76 Titan DT-039 is more responsive (slightly faster gaming despite lack of Nvidia G sync) and has the better 4k UHD screen for movies/videos. Both are great notebooks though!
Only thing is I think the area 51m is the only laptop currently with a full cpu (not mobile variant) I was looking to get the 51m but read it has smoking/burning issues at the start of the year with mosfet chips or something on the gpu
@@Juan1985g rumors and lies from those who cannot afford or are spoiled babies who get review units sent to them. I've owned one. My Temps never went above 85c. The 2080 is a beast. You wouldn't know unless you actually owned one.
@@Juan1985g I've owned one and monitored the temps. It never got anywhere near that hot. People who say that never actually owned one. The a51m has some of the best cooling I've ever seen on a laptop.
@@charlestannehill7537 I got a gt76. I have a friend that works for one of the laptop 💻 custom companies. He said specifically not to get 51m because of issues and a lots of RMA's. Maybe u got a good one but they are known to have issues. Dont believe me? Google is your friend
@@Juan1985g poor quality control is not the same as sub-par design or hardware. I admit, I most likely got a really good unit. I had not a single issue other than some light bleed. The problem is the very core ideology of AW and Dell is drastically incompatible. I'm sure the AW division designed everything top notch including awesome hardware. But big daddy Dell in control of profits nixed everything they could to increase profits. Including American customer service (unless you pay for it). That indian support is useless. Or unless you spend big money with a corporate account. Then you get American support. They also cut costs on assembly, sourcing, quality control, etc. So yes, there are bad units. But when the stars align, this thing is a beast. As much money as they charge, I would RMA until I got the perfect unit. Once you get it, nothing beats it. Unfortunately I don't have mine anymore. Drunk driver hit me on my bike coming home from work. Had it less than two months.
I like the Area 51 is an art piece, but after playing on my mis trident x plus with an i7 9700k and a 2080ti that basically cost me the same as this laptops... I wouldn’t go back to play at 1080p, now I play on a ultra wide monitor 3440x1440 (have to say that is an Alienware) and the experience is way better than play on a regular screen monitor even with 144hz ... and my desktop is not that big is a really small case...
I've had my Area 51m now for almost 2 years, still going strong, no issues playing modern titles. Not the greatest for enjoying Ray Traced content in games, but still manages in some titles. The only thing I'm not a fan of is the limited bios controls, and the proprietary dell/alienware software. I feel if I had a little more control over my hardware settings it would be perfect. I just wish there were more competition in this class of laptops. There aren't a lot of options out there unfortunately. I think as chip manufacturers hit the 3nm and 2nm processes they may be able to refine the TDP of newer chips, hopefully. A desktop replacement? Pretty close, but thermals is the main issue. Some titles like COD require me to undervolt and reduce clock speeds, otherwise it overheats. If it had like 20 to 25% more cooling capacity, perhaps more fans, it would be better. I've been tempted to try liquid metal TIM, but I don't think it would help much in this scenario. Hopefully by the time NVIDIA's 4000 series is out, there will be some more competition for desktop grade laptops. For me being a long haul trucker, this is my only reasonable option for a gaming pc in the truck. Even Mini ITX can be too cumbersome, and all the wires running everywhere in this cramped space would be a pain. At least the laptop can easily be ported around when needed, such as when I'm home, or if I have a breakdown and end up in a hotel for a bit. Alienware's UFO looks interesting, but I'm still waiting on if it will actually make it to market or not.. Cool concept, would be great for on the road, no table required. Could just whip it out when I'm parked or layed over for some more casual games. I'm curious what sort of hardware they could pack into it. Would be awesome for all my JRPGs and Side Scrolling games in my library.
I like how you gave an unbiased view of a competitor laptop and even gave it accolades. That shows a lot about your integrity as a company. Plenty of room for competition and the law of abundance. Great video. I like the mystic lighting. It would have been nice to see that carried over in the cover along the lines. Would tie everything together, but still awesome.
@@fukitall80 You should read what i said again bro, all i said was im guessing he is rich, i have absolutely not issue, i want to one day be able to buy two incredibly expensive gaming laptops just to see which one "Feels better".
No, Not at all. Have you ever tried Ryzen on actual programs that use all forms of productivity? Stop using gaming, we know this argument and intel has been plenty guilty of the same thing.
I would like to remind people that liquid metal exists and that if used it can really make a difference. Maybe Area-51m is the King and Msi gt76 is more expensive than Area-51m
With thermals I've heard the alienware is a tad better and heard others say the msi is a tad better, either would need to undervolt and run the fans at max like a VTOL. Wanted to get a 51m but heard the 2080 gpu's at the start of the year would smoke and set alight.
I have the Alienware area 51m but it has the RTX 2060. When i placed it in stress test, the fans were going hard and the temp was very cool. I did not noticed throttling in "high performance mode" in normal mode i did experience some throttling.
Alienware Area-51m is slaying it in almost every aspect, except for the cooling. I'd give the cooling solution to MSI. But overall, Area-51m is killing it especially its gorgeous design, which draws worlds apart from the design of the GT76. Not only the most powerful gaming laptop, but also the most good-looking laptop today!
I think it's a bullsh*t,Area 51m uses a socket, therefore bound by its associated LGA so if LGA changes for the 10th gen. you can't do any updates, without counting that you have to go to see up there are blocks on the power supply in the bios, which could already give problems by mounting a 9900KS. At the end of the games, even if you could change components, you are bound by the total power supplied by the power supplies, therefore not more than 510W (330 + 180).There are many but I already know that Alienware will justify itself with one of its crap.
@@raid0ss687 upgradable is like marketing,u cant upgrade to gen 10. if they say it upgradable,should use ryzen since their mobo can handle 3 gen and 4gen
alienware only looks good in the start and by appearance.. but the real monster behind all the scenes is msi. just check its cooling capacity. that is one major factor you should see when buying laptops. msi is a more eastly laptop especially in cooling system and long lasting endurance and not to mention with a very reasonable price compared to alienware
@@Grimmjow19872 yes go with msi. you can never go wrong with msi. i am using msi now and have plans to update to newer versions of mai as well just to get the latest rtx version. mine now is gtx but still works great though
Too bad, msi is just a laptop but Alienware is a desktop replacement :))), as long as it can upgrade anything, it will still beat the higher version of MSI because there is no limited on Alien-Area
Can we get a factory warranty when purchasing from your company? Also is your overclocking done via the Alienware software or are you using something like Throttlestop or Intel Extreme Utility?
Hello sir, I bought this msi gt76 with 144hz fhd it has backlight bleeding in the edges and corners, and its bother me when i watch movies or playing dark games, can you do backlight bleed test in full black screen to the gt76 I just want to know if all models of gt76 have this problem or just me, thanks.
@@Grimmjow19872 this model laptop has thermal throttling issues. It doesn't cool the gpu down enough so it constantly throttles itself in a loop not giving maximum gpu performance
@@PhantomFUZZ01 oh damn, i was thinking about getting the m51 but am not sure. does it do that have this model only? i was thinking about getting the alienware m51 with the rtx2070 and i7-9700
@@Grimmjow19872 From what I've seen, as I'm shopping around for a new laptop as well, Its this model with the 2080. The chassis doesn't have adequate cooling so you get the thermal throttling loop. I'm looking into the Clevo EVOC or the MSI titan atm they both have great cooling with no temp throttling problems but they have their disadvantages as well. I would do my research and wait maybe they'll introduce a new chassis for the m51 with better cooling eventually, as of now I would avoid it. You can look up a few reviews on youtube of people explaining the problem more in depth if your intereested.
Hi sorry to ask you this stupid question. i wanted to have a station with 4 monitor station and thinking about having a high-end laptop than a PC. so is it possible to attach 4 (or possibly 6)monitors on to any of these laptops?
This test is unfair because you are using the i7 area51m when you could be using the i9 9900k obviously I realise you don’t have all the money in the world but you can not take all the processor scores into account
@@sabishiihito I know but the new one I can't seem to find any info on that! Both are awesome pc but the new Dell laptops ( G series & Alienware) are looking too damn good!
@@sabishiihito Nvidia and AMD stopped supporting MXM, dell built a new format just for this laptop that theyll be able to control and support it regardless of the GPU
So you reviewed the $$$$ laptops, but FELL miserably to mention if the GPU on the MSI was replaceable or not (soldered)! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ Even MSI does not mention it on its website. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ $5000 for a laptop with non-replaceable GPU! NO THANKS. I will take the A51m.
Djinnho does anyone know for sure if the next gpu will go with this same form factor so the goubreally can be upgraded and or how much this will cost. I feel like I’ve heard this before about the upgrading the gpu and cpu and it never seems to actually work
After owning the area 51m for a bit now I can say it's a great laptop but Dell support sucks to high hell!! With that said I bought another laptop but this time from Eurocom and the area 51m or msi can't hold a candle to the options or performance. For one I was able to get 120hz 2k 17in display, unlocked bios, delidded 9900k with custom heat pipe setup and for no reason I had two rtx 2080s installed but I do find use cases for them. Ram can also be clocked higher unlike the area 51m or msi ststems, installed i have 32gb ddr4 3200.
What cinebench test are you running? R15 R20 For CPU or GPU? How well did they both sustain 5ghz? Temps? did you guys happen to do a Adobe Premiere Export test or media encoder?
@@omegared9509 The Area 51m probably has the better and more efficient cooling system. The GT76 is loud during gaming because you can hear the motor noise from the fans, whereas with the Area 51m, all you can hear is the warm air blowing out. During idle, the Area 51m is whisper quiet. You can always hear the fans on the GT76.
Actually from some of our in game temps we got the MSI was cooler but it had more fan noise. It seems that the GT76 cools better but fan noise is the trade off.
dont buy it dell is the worst got one broke down in like 1.5 months burning from the right fan didnt overclock did actually a downclock. after that they tolt me they would come to my house on monday and replace the faulty part so i had leaf from work and they didnt show up so i called them and they sad we dont have the compoments to replace the faulty part it would come on thursday so i called my work asked for leave on thursday called dell back at around 12 oclock and they said ow sorry the part will arive wensday :( after that it was taking to long so they orderd a new one it would arrive 2 weeks later but it didnt so i called again and it turned out they lost the tracking code a problem at ups 3 days later i got finaly my replacement but it wasnt the right one it has 60hz instad of 144 and no tolby eye tracking so i will call again next monday but dont buy from this shitty company im gonna buy an msi or an asus. greetings
Rick Edward Stark that’s cool. I was thinking about getting the titan. Am selling my high end laptop to get this one with the RTX. Just don’t know how much to sell my laptop for with out making it to expense
Hey MSI, put red accent on back just as in gt75, and change keyboard look exactly like gt75, it really looked good with offset arrow keys. Can you do it for us?
Hello good day!!! All right? A question! Will these values of the GT76 Titan Notebook go down or will it remain for a long time? Thanks for your attention, be with God !!!
I was thinking about getting the Alienware area 51 I was just wondering how it will function playing sky room with roughly 100 or 200 Mods At its maximum capabilities etc
Correction on one of the slides in the video. Both machines were tested with 9900K Processors.
Oh good, I almost closed the video right there thinking "Why would he make a comparison and not use the 9900k 51M? Is this some kind of rigged MSI comparison?".
Luckily I checked comments. Now I can watch this video not thinking it will soil my braincells.
XOTIC PC did the msi thermal throttle?
@@Asrudin 😅😅😅
Are you kidding?
Whats up with the lower RAM and speed difference of RAM???
And the WLAN Module should also be the same...
This makes big differences!!!!
@@Lukas-rq1ve u mean the nic? it will make a difference?
Love alienware design, but both of them has their own unique thing
I’m super happy with my GT75. Got the i9 with the RTX 2080
What monitor refresh rate u got mate?
yeah i'm happy as well. Getting my alienware 51m in a few days it's got the i7 9700k with RTX 2080 32gb ram 144hz screen. get it for around 3,000 in usd.
edit: 3,127.37 usd
@@dannyboygoldfish926 hows is it so far? any problems?
@@Grimmjow19872 Yeah I really like it. The screen is 144fps but it says on Overwatch that its 159 fps. I cant go back to my 60 fps laptop no way. After i downloaded all the windows updates and alienware software updates it has not had any problems. The 17 inch screen is much better than my old 15 inch, see way more in games. The tobii eye tracking is interesting but there are not many games that use it. Hope you find the right laptop. gotta say this one has had no problems.
You probably should have bought a treadmill instead
Man modern gaming Laptops are Sexy AF!
interesting considering the MSI 2080 is 200 watts vs the Alienware 2080 running at 180 watts. MSI must be nurfing the full potential somewhere
Just a note to Titan owners.
MAKE SURE TO ALLOW BIOS UPDATES!!!!!!
OK sorry about that. Anyway, the early bios in it limited the GPU to 150 (something around that) watts and you had to change it manually.
Apparently, not a lot of folks knew that (I didn't until I checked out the bios as a curiosity) but the later Bios files set the 200-watt TDP as default. Supposedly had something to do with Optimus.
OK now rerun your favorite benchmarks if you never made the switch to the 200-watt option and didn't allow bios updates. Huge improvement.
EDIT - Later bios files set the TDP to 200 watts and the option was removed from the bios.
Hi! So... Do you recommend me update the bios of my titan to the last update?
Both computers are fantastic machines. I like the MSI just a bit more. Now I'm not a gamer but want to use that GT76 for video editing. It's perfect for that. Can't wait for the day when I get to pull the trigger, hopefully soon before MSI comes out with something bigger and better.
Not a fair comparision with i7 9700 vs 9900 I am sorry first of I had Alienware area 51m and it cannot handle i7 9900 at all I had to send mine back as it was constantly throttling. My only advice to people getting this machine is stick with 9700 as per this video if you get 9900 Alienware cooling is not sufficient
Edgars Adamovics they both have 9900k's
Thanks i just received mines yesterday still unopened sitting on my desk cant wait try it out
A small under volt fixed the heat issue easily by 12 degrees
Alienware Area 51m up to i9 9900k
I have a 51m, full specs. No problems yet in terms of thermals, cooling pad elevated, max fan profile, 65-75c max under full load. I could under-volt by -.140. But I haven’t felt the need.
I have the 51m lowest spec and plays perfectly any game on Ultra settings. (i7,8gb ram, RTX 2060)
Is that combined temp for CPU and GPU in celsius?????
How does it compare to the Falcon DRX and Acer 21X?
I have area51m with i9 9900k, rtx2080 ,64GB Ram, and when I do rendering ,the temperature go up to 87degrees , procesor load 60%
When is Xotic PC going to carry Alienware laptop's again?
The Area 51m is like a UFO when adding some sweet RGBs. The machine does intense gaming with ease than the other machines. Plus even though the fire strike test which the 51m falls down a bit, but putting games into this beast means it can deliver with juicy high FPS, and still it's like some sort of Desktop inside a powerful machine. But although to be fair, the specs of the 51m which is the CPU is a little less powerful than the MSI i9-9900HK but still awesome video but I'm not too sure if I really want to buy a machine that is extremely powerful.
Wouldn't be able to afford either anyways lmao, good video though
Financing makes it more reasonable, but yeah it's pretty outrageous
Here’s a video idea: let me just read the specs off a list
typical hater looking for issues when there isn't any really i'm sure you couldn't do any better
I just wish all the plugs for power, monitors, and Ethernet were on the back of the MSI like the A51.
Pretty sure they did that for thermal performance (extra rads and airflow), function over form as if I'm not mistaken, the Alienware runs hotter than the MSI
area 51m has a 9900k cpu model
wow, I get identical score of 117 FPS on the Division 2 benchmark, from testing my A51m(same specs).
@Draknight never gets old...lol
im not buying this expensive laptop unless you can switch out the hardware.. so alienware 51m here i come. but ill wait for the 1440p screen
@@kyledupont7711 true.
@@saltyfloridaman7163 power supply limitation ?
still perfer 51m
probably the most repairble desktop replace laptop
others have the cpu/gpu wielded on the motherbord but 51m is replaceble which means when something happens to cpu/gpu/motherbord ,only replace the broken parts, other laptop?good luck with ur wallet
I have the area 51m.Only thing I don’t like about the build is they used glossy plastic on the bezels and front grille. If your not careful that material scratches very easily. Plus dell uses loctite on the screws. So if you try to put in a new drive be careful or you could strip a screw. Happened to me.
That wasn't exactly a fair comparison being that one of them had 64gb of memory and a 9900k, but it's funny because it lost all the gaming benchmarks and probably costs more.
It does the msi gt 76 starts at like 3500. I paid way less for my a51m.
I wish the area 51 had a steelseries keyboard. I love both machines but prefer the steelseries keyboard.
yeah but the 51m is not the best with temperatures
bullshit. I have one and doesn't suffer with temperature. I don't know where you heard that lie from.
@@loading...7583 because a lot of peeps are just spewing bs on forums and YT. Non of these people even own the unit. My unit should arrive anytime now. Will post a few reviews!
@@michaelblurry6559 good luck! my 51m is doing great!
nope. not true, I haven't had any issues with overheat at all. the fans are so damn powerful its ridiculous..
on second thought, I think the issues you are talking about are with the i7 9900, not the stock i7 9700 version that most people have. I have the i7 9700 version and its really the better option at the moment if you get the 51m from what I know, at least til they fix it? im NOT an expert though.
Honestly, mine runs lap cool. I was expecting it to be too hot for that. But was surprised. I don't game with it one my lap, but think I could, at least for some games. The fans do a good job moving air. For normal like surfing the net, or watching videos it's silent and smooth.
The thing I’m most concerned with because I’m looking at buying one of these is thermals which are not mentioned here at all.
I’ve been searching and the few videoed I can find the Msi is running a little cooler 3-7degrees depending.
Also while upgradeable Nvidia hasn’t used the same architecture once in all there revisions so good luck upgrading the gpu and Intel will be going to a different chip socket soon as well.
Difficult descion at this point especially with Msi g75 raider and Asus Zephyrus both of those are cheaper and still great performance
I’m curious as well, but I was watching a video (can’t remember which one now) that showed by undervolting by just -0.15 V the Alienware could achieve about 15 or so degrees cooler than stock
Excellent review on 2 awesome extreme desktop replacement notebooks. MSI GT76 Titan DT-039 is the notebook for me over the Alienware Area 51M due to offering a 4k UHD screen. MSI GT76 Titan DT-039 can be maxed out at 128 GB DDR4 @ 2666 MHz vs. Alienware Area 51M's 64GB DDR4 @ 2400 MHz max memory. Also the MSI GT76 Titan has 3 PCIe 3.0 NVME M.2 slots versus Alienware Area 51M only having 2 PCIe 3.0 NVME M.2 slots . MSI GT76 Titan DT-039 is also much easier to disassemble then the Alienware Area 51M (which is a nightmare to disassemble) for component upgrades or replacements. I own both notebooks & my MSI GT76 Titan DT-039 is more responsive (slightly faster gaming despite lack of Nvidia G sync) and has the better 4k UHD screen for movies/videos. Both are great notebooks though!
Only thing is I think the area 51m is the only laptop currently with a full cpu (not mobile variant) I was looking to get the 51m but read it has smoking/burning issues at the start of the year with mosfet chips or something on the gpu
@@Dagoth_Ur_1 They both have desktop CPU/GPU's & MSI GT76 Titan has the much better cooling solution!
The Alienware smashes on the upgradable factor alone. Not to mention classier looking. Performance between the two are negligible.
sure with 100c on gpu and cpu- Not worth it.
@@Juan1985g rumors and lies from those who cannot afford or are spoiled babies who get review units sent to them. I've owned one. My Temps never went above 85c. The 2080 is a beast. You wouldn't know unless you actually owned one.
@@Juan1985g I've owned one and monitored the temps. It never got anywhere near that hot. People who say that never actually owned one. The a51m has some of the best cooling I've ever seen on a laptop.
@@charlestannehill7537 I got a gt76. I have a friend that works for one of the laptop 💻 custom companies. He said specifically not to get 51m because of issues and a lots of RMA's. Maybe u got a good one but they are known to have issues. Dont believe me? Google is your friend
@@Juan1985g poor quality control is not the same as sub-par design or hardware. I admit, I most likely got a really good unit. I had not a single issue other than some light bleed. The problem is the very core ideology of AW and Dell is drastically incompatible. I'm sure the AW division designed everything top notch including awesome hardware. But big daddy Dell in control of profits nixed everything they could to increase profits. Including American customer service (unless you pay for it). That indian support is useless. Or unless you spend big money with a corporate account. Then you get American support. They also cut costs on assembly, sourcing, quality control, etc. So yes, there are bad units. But when the stars align, this thing is a beast. As much money as they charge, I would RMA until I got the perfect unit. Once you get it, nothing beats it. Unfortunately I don't have mine anymore. Drunk driver hit me on my bike coming home from work. Had it less than two months.
alienware is shit.and msi has better hardware.never recommand alienware，not worth.
oh really? is alieanware that bad? never one yet
I like the Area 51 is an art piece, but after playing on my mis trident x plus with an i7 9700k and a 2080ti that basically cost me the same as this laptops... I wouldn’t go back to play at 1080p, now I play on a ultra wide monitor 3440x1440 (have to say that is an Alienware) and the experience is way better than play on a regular screen monitor even with 144hz ... and my desktop is not that big is a really small case...
I've had my Area 51m now for almost 2 years, still going strong, no issues playing modern titles. Not the greatest for enjoying Ray Traced content in games, but still manages in some titles. The only thing I'm not a fan of is the limited bios controls, and the proprietary dell/alienware software. I feel if I had a little more control over my hardware settings it would be perfect.
I just wish there were more competition in this class of laptops. There aren't a lot of options out there unfortunately. I think as chip manufacturers hit the 3nm and 2nm processes they may be able to refine the TDP of newer chips, hopefully. A desktop replacement? Pretty close, but thermals is the main issue. Some titles like COD require me to undervolt and reduce clock speeds, otherwise it overheats. If it had like 20 to 25% more cooling capacity, perhaps more fans, it would be better. I've been tempted to try liquid metal TIM, but I don't think it would help much in this scenario.
Hopefully by the time NVIDIA's 4000 series is out, there will be some more competition for desktop grade laptops. For me being a long haul trucker, this is my only reasonable option for a gaming pc in the truck. Even Mini ITX can be too cumbersome, and all the wires running everywhere in this cramped space would be a pain. At least the laptop can easily be ported around when needed, such as when I'm home, or if I have a breakdown and end up in a hotel for a bit.
Alienware's UFO looks interesting, but I'm still waiting on if it will actually make it to market or not.. Cool concept, would be great for on the road, no table required. Could just whip it out when I'm parked or layed over for some more casual games. I'm curious what sort of hardware they could pack into it. Would be awesome for all my JRPGs and Side Scrolling games in my library.
Sorry dude but your comparison was unfair I have the area 51m ... i9900k rtx 2080 version. That would have killed the msi gt76
Why did you compare these 2 models... with different CPU? Why not use a 9900K Area 51M for this comparison?
I like how you gave an unbiased view of a competitor laptop and even gave it accolades. That shows a lot about your integrity as a company. Plenty of room for competition and the law of abundance. Great video. I like the mystic lighting. It would have been nice to see that carried over in the cover along the lines. Would tie everything together, but still awesome.
Good review. I love my 51m. I might invest in msi now. And see which one feels better while gaming
im guessing you must be rich to be able to buy another expensive laptop just to test out which one feels "better".
@@Spirittism nope I'm not. I'm just willing to do what other people don't want to do.
@@Spirittism even if he is whats the issue?
@@fukitall80 You should read what i said again bro, all i said was im guessing he is rich, i have absolutely not issue, i want to one day be able to buy two incredibly expensive gaming laptops just to see which one "Feels better".
@@johnmead9012 other people is not willing to buy me a A51 are you wiling to do what other people aren't willing to do and buy me one too
comparing an i7 model with an i9 is totally illegal
Better in benchmarks but lower fps. MSI is like AMD or what?
No, Not at all. Have you ever tried Ryzen on actual programs that use all forms of productivity? Stop using gaming, we know this argument and intel has been plenty guilty of the same thing.
@@zpa5649 1 year later
AMD: hold my beer...
I would like to remind people that liquid metal exists and that if used it can really make a difference.
Maybe Area-51m is the King and Msi gt76 is more expensive than Area-51m
With thermals I've heard the alienware is a tad better and heard others say the msi is a tad better, either would need to undervolt and run the fans at max like a VTOL. Wanted to get a 51m but heard the 2080 gpu's at the start of the year would smoke and set alight.
Next time I'm not sure you need to read out every stat number for every test. We can read it so you can probably just summarize
How can you compare them side by side when they do not have similar specks? I am not trying to discourage you. I'm actually a big fan of your videos
What about temperatures and throttling ??
I have the Alienware area 51m but it has the RTX 2060. When i placed it in stress test, the fans were going hard and the temp was very cool. I did not noticed throttling in "high performance mode" in normal mode i did experience some throttling.
Is there much difference between 144hz 3ms on the the titan vs 144hz 9ms on the area 51m?
Its very funny that dell makes these both laptops
I'd like to hear something about their cooling performance
Flawed comparison since you can put a 9900k, and more ram inside of the Alienware. Thumbs down for you.
Actually they mentioned in the pinned comment that the Alien ware they tested has a 9900k
TITAN
How is it a fair comparison if the Alienware has slower Ram?
MSI!, WTF??.
i love alienware
Alienware Area-51m is slaying it in almost every aspect, except for the cooling. I'd give the cooling solution to MSI. But overall, Area-51m is killing it especially its gorgeous design, which draws worlds apart from the design of the GT76. Not only the most powerful gaming laptop, but also the most good-looking laptop today!
My alienware m51 had no problems with cooling.
@@whathappenswhen4767 My Alienware 15r4 has CPU cooling issues.
@@clockworklegionaire2135 you can control the cooling with the alienware command center
Remember, exist LM
what a professionally well done video. How the fuck you only have 2,000 views???
For me area 51m is better cause you can replace the CPU and GPU 😊
@Tautvilas Mikalaitis Says who?
Only the cpu on the msi. The gpu is soldered.
I think it's a bullsh*t,Area 51m uses a socket, therefore bound by its associated LGA so if LGA changes for the 10th gen. you can't do any updates, without counting that you have to go to see up there are blocks on the power supply in the bios, which could already give problems by mounting a 9900KS. At the end of the games, even if you could change components, you are bound by the total power supplied by the power supplies, therefore not more than 510W (330 + 180).There are many but I already know that Alienware will justify itself with one of its crap.
@Tautvilas Mikalaitis only cpu
@@raid0ss687 upgradable is like marketing,u cant upgrade to gen 10. if they say it upgradable,should use ryzen since their mobo can handle 3 gen and 4gen
alienware only looks good in the start and by appearance.. but the real monster behind all the scenes is msi. just check its cooling capacity. that is one major factor you should see when buying laptops. msi is a more eastly laptop especially in cooling system and long lasting endurance and not to mention with a very reasonable price compared to alienware
Yes i like msi, i was thinking about getting the alienware 51m but now i have doubts about it, with everyone saying somehing about the thermals.
@@Grimmjow19872 yes go with msi. you can never go wrong with msi. i am using msi now and have plans to update to newer versions of mai as well just to get the latest rtx version. mine now is gtx but still works great though
Too bad, msi is just a laptop but Alienware is a desktop replacement :))), as long as it can upgrade anything, it will still beat the higher version of MSI because there is no limited on Alien-Area
MSI all the way. alienware seems ok at start but MSI last long. just wait till alienware have some issues. believe me.
I agree. I’ve owned a laptop from both companies & MSI does much better in the long haul.
But you can upgrade everything inside alienware area m-51 even CPU but MSI can’t so..... :/
Wow has anyone ever told you that you have a nice radio voice. Nice.
Sir...how can i get the alienware area 51 in Nigeria
Are you a nigerian prince who has come into a great fortune but the accounts are frozen?
@@giovanidiamonds lmao
Can we get a factory warranty when purchasing from your company?
Also is your overclocking done via the Alienware software or are you using something like Throttlestop or Intel Extreme Utility?
16 gigs of ram vs 64. Some comparison.
since when is a tomb raider a ram consuming game, or a dirt rally
Hello sir, I bought this msi gt76 with 144hz fhd it has backlight bleeding in the edges and corners, and its bother me when i watch movies or playing dark games, can you do backlight bleed test in full black screen to the gt76 I just want to know if all models of gt76 have this problem or just me, thanks.
They all do
i have the 240 hz panel for the same msi gt76 DT 9sg and really the backlight bleeding sometimes is irksome
Both laptops are great.
No thermal comparison?
i'd go gt76 because it has better temps and runs cooler when as the area 51m gets too hot
They are both beautiful - I want both, one for each hand.
It's odd he isn't mentioning the very well known throttling problem the alienware machine has. If your thinking of getting it dont.
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@@Grimmjow19872 this model laptop has thermal throttling issues. It doesn't cool the gpu down enough so it constantly throttles itself in a loop not giving maximum gpu performance
@@PhantomFUZZ01 oh damn, i was thinking about getting the m51 but am not sure. does it do that have this model only? i was thinking about getting the alienware m51 with the rtx2070 and i7-9700
@@Grimmjow19872 From what I've seen, as I'm shopping around for a new laptop as well, Its this model with the 2080. The chassis doesn't have adequate cooling so you get the thermal throttling loop. I'm looking into the Clevo EVOC or the MSI titan atm they both have great cooling with no temp throttling problems but they have their disadvantages as well. I would do my research and wait maybe they'll introduce a new chassis for the m51 with better cooling eventually, as of now I would avoid it. You can look up a few reviews on youtube of people explaining the problem more in depth if your intereested.
@@PhantomFUZZ01 Alright thanks for the info man. i really how high hopes for the 51m. might look into the titan
Hi sorry to ask you this stupid question. i wanted to have a station
with 4 monitor station and thinking about having a high-end laptop than a
PC. so is it possible to attach 4 (or possibly 6)monitors on to any of
these laptops?
I pick msi
I mean... that’s your opinion 🤷♂️
This test is unfair because you are using the i7 area51m when you could be using the i9 9900k obviously I realise you don’t have all the money in the world but you can not take all the processor scores into account
msi the best
this comparison is bias vlog all about to promote alienware. believe me guys in the end, MSI will be your true friend.
Area 51M easy for me: UPGRADEABLE... 😈😈😈
Sacha-yves jean-louis they’re both upgradeable
@@sabishiihito more options on the Area 51! Msi you can't upgrade the graphics like the 51M.
@@nismo025 Which is odd considering the older TItan models had modular GPUs in MXM format..
@@sabishiihito I know but the new one I can't seem to find any info on that! Both are awesome pc but the new Dell laptops ( G series & Alienware) are looking too damn good!
@@sabishiihito Nvidia and AMD stopped supporting MXM, dell built a new format just for this laptop that theyll be able to control and support it regardless of the GPU
So you reviewed the $$$$ laptops, but FELL miserably to mention if the GPU on the MSI was replaceable or not (soldered)! 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ Even MSI does not mention it on its website. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
$5000 for a laptop with non-replaceable GPU! NO THANKS. I will take the A51m.
Djinnho does anyone know for sure if the next gpu will go with this same form factor so the goubreally can be upgraded and or how much this will cost. I feel like I’ve heard this before about the upgrading the gpu and cpu and it never seems to actually work
Alienware is a Farrari while the MSI is a Lamborghini.
After owning the area 51m for a bit now I can say it's a great laptop but Dell support sucks to high hell!! With that said I bought another laptop but this time from Eurocom and the area 51m or msi can't hold a candle to the options or performance. For one I was able to get 120hz 2k 17in display, unlocked bios, delidded 9900k with custom heat pipe setup and for no reason I had two rtx 2080s installed but I do find use cases for them. Ram can also be clocked higher unlike the area 51m or msi ststems, installed i have 32gb ddr4 3200.
The fastest Eurocom GPU I can find is the rtx 2070 and no sli.
@@scavengerspc my system is the x9c series and goes all the up to the 2080 and I'm using differentsli auto to force sli with no bridge.
@@prodigy455 Very nice Tyler. Do you mind if I ask what that cost?
@@scavengerspc w shipping its $6,010
What cinebench test are you running? R15 R20 For CPU or GPU? How well did they both sustain 5ghz? Temps? did you guys happen to do a Adobe Premiere Export test or media encoder?
We were using R20 for CPU. Both did sustain 5ghz while testing. We did not do anything with Adobe Premiere in our tests.
@@xoticpc /Thank you! One question I forgot to ask is what settings was the Superposition test on?
You should do temperature test comparisons
We were planning on it but our gauge decided not to work on the day of testing. Bad timing, but we may go back and do another!
@@xoticpc i think that temp on this laptops are most important thing because its laptops, cooling system it is a priority
@@omegared9509 The Area 51m probably has the better and more efficient cooling system. The GT76 is loud during gaming because you can hear the motor noise from the fans, whereas with the Area 51m, all you can hear is the warm air blowing out. During idle, the Area 51m is whisper quiet. You can always hear the fans on the GT76.
Actually from some of our in game temps we got the MSI was cooler but it had more fan noise. It seems that the GT76 cools better but fan noise is the trade off.
@@xoticpc Whats a different, for how much?
dragon gaming winner
dont buy it dell is the worst got one broke down in like 1.5 months burning from the right fan didnt overclock did actually a downclock. after that they tolt me they would come to my house on monday and replace the faulty part so i had leaf from work and they didnt show up so i called them and they sad we dont have the compoments to replace the faulty part it would come on thursday so i called my work asked for leave on thursday called dell back at around 12 oclock and they said ow sorry the part will arive wensday :( after that it was taking to long so they orderd a new one it would arrive 2 weeks later but it didnt so i called again and it turned out they lost the tracking code a problem at ups 3 days later i got finaly my replacement but it wasnt the right one it has 60hz instad of 144 and no tolby eye tracking so i will call again next monday but dont buy from this shitty company im gonna buy an msi or an asus.
greetings
I have the i9-9900K version of the Alienware and although the thermals aren't favoured by most, I'm content with it
what do you mean?
@@Grimmjow19872 It's cooling is kinda shitty for hotter areas but it doesn't affect my gaming experience that much
Rick Edward Stark that’s cool. I was thinking about getting the titan. Am selling my high end laptop to get this one with the RTX. Just don’t know how much to sell my laptop for with out making it to expense
Area 51 looks better
very good video my fav is the alienware notebook
And after that that's me, with mine 7820hk and 1070 with 60Hz panel lel
Why alienware beats msi? Their cpu and gpu are the same
Because you can even upgrade cpu and gpu so they are not at the same level
Fantastic review.. hats off to you man 👍
What about thermals ? Throttle marks?
How are you going to compare an i7 to an i9?!? Of course the laptop with i9 is going to be better!!
he has already corrected it. both are i9
But it was not better , go figure !
Great reviews! Give this guy a raise
It's all about the MacBook pro hahahahah
Only for the cooling i would go with msi..
Hey MSI, put red accent on back just as in gt75, and change keyboard look exactly like gt75, it really looked good with offset arrow keys. Can you do it for us?
Alienware area 51m si thé best
I7 vs I9??? smh
I love the a51m just looks very cool to me. The msi one honestly looks very cheap, especially the keyboard
Cooling on the area 51m is shit
@@mcwaff8661 Not true at all! I have one and mine doesn't pass 75c CPU and GPU while gaming. specs: i9 + RTX 2080.
Doubt
haha just see . MSI is more functional bro than aesthetics. just wait till the end who will last long. still msi
diomyx nah, what is more functional? The a51m can replace the components inside. I think my a51m will last longer if I want to.
Could anyone tell me which one would be better for heavy video editing?
Area-51M, but I would upgrade thermals like deliding, liquid metal and thermal pads.
@@12pure appreciate the insight
The msi needs a truck under it for a wrist rest
lol
First!
Great guys
Oooouuuuuuuuu!!!!
and temps???? common
but does it have a calculator
No.
Hello good day!!! All right? A question! Will these values of the GT76 Titan Notebook go down or will it remain for a long time? Thanks for your attention, be with God !!!
I was thinking about getting the Alienware area 51 I was just wondering how it will function playing sky room with roughly 100 or 200 Mods At its maximum capabilities etc