This RSC Bug Stumped Botters and Made Real Players Rich
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 มี.ค. 2019
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A single bug devastated RuneScape classic botters and made two legitimate players rich. This video is their story.
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18:09 - I'm still "Reeeeeing" to this day.
Literally if you have a graphics card made in the last 8 years, it can do this in the driver software and with completely no performance hit (unlike this trash)
Just use nvidia shadowcast lmao it literally does the same thing just faster...
Omg I actually am IN this video at 17:18 lol, that was when we went to the kbd on the last day of RSC. My username then was Presty but now it's Prestie (I never abused bugs or botted in RSC at all, legit player since 03) I also have an extensive knowledge of RSC if you ever have any questions at all for any future vids like this. Wish I saw this sooner!
0:48 Mr Gower I don't feel so good. LMFAO
Software Engineer here. Just wanted to say PID is actually process ID. It is very common on most systems. It is used to keep track of all the programs. scripts, and processes running on your computer.
Wtf.why????
@Jeremy Foster no. pid is just an acronym
Lembe Muhammad depends on the developer as different companies have different rules when naming variables. Could be anything
"Shadows of Michelin"
*Bibendum wants to know your location*
Great video, I think the longer format is better imo. This video was very informative and fun to watch. I knew nothing about classic but this video did a great job telling be all about it so I could better understand the importance of this bug.
I started playing Rs In May of 2001 and played off and on until It was shut down. I was one of only a handful of people with 99 smithing, mining and mage on classic. I never botted.
Pics or no proof 😉
Watching this video is a trip, I played rsc for a couple months before it closed and actually met both Zephyr and Kristof ingame on separate occasions and they were both cool guys
Glad you enjoyed it (:
/r/ wooooooosssssshhhh
I remember those fucking sleeping bags and having to put in those random numbers and letters. I was probably like 12 or 13.
hooooooooooowat.
@@rawtrout3402
they might not have been bots but they sure did sell accounts lol
OH MY GOD 9:45 THIS EXPLAINS WHY my 1 defense pures in rsc would randomly get defense xp.. I just had a moment.
botting bad, bug abuse good
Love this.
Had no idea how bad Jagex let Classic get...
RIP NostalgiaTown.
I remember reading an article saying they where allowed to work/matence on classic on their off time. You've got to remember that it was a very old game and very old code that most of the team probably had no idea how it worked without sitting there for days going over it. I've also read that the community submitted ways to fix bugs but Jagex did nothing.
@@GrumpyIan Rsc is an example of a company intentionally sabotaging their own product to get people to play the new game. You see this on console games too. Cheaters allowed to play rampantly so regular people will buy the new games.
I maybe missed it
I get how it exploits the PID but did they have to monitor the bot logging in and out to time it? That seems like it takes a bit of skill God dang
The rsc botting clients go to a point where you could see another plays PID. People would make scripts to login and out for hours until they had a low PID. If you had a PID of 5, only 5 others would have catch on you in the wild (PID 0,1,2,3,4)
The good ol days when there was no wilderness, and addy long was best weapon in the game along with steel square shield.
Remember when mith kites were first smithed? That was an expensive 5k to get one!
Very well put together. Love it!
I applaud these men. I have been playing for almost 20 years now and NOTHING is more despicable than botting, much less showing off your botting with pride. Bots are the exact reason i didn't enjoy RSC.
No bots on RSCVanilla !
I was a big trader of rares in varrock castle back in RSC. Inside the castle on the second floor, I once seen someone who had no clipped into the black abyss on the outside of the walls. He told me to go to the prayer guild upstairs and we would be able to trade through the window. He was absolutely right. I left varrock castle and walked to monastery, went upstairs and he was waiting there in the black abyss outside the walls. We were able to trade and he told me how to no clip but it was only ever able to work on the second floor of the entire world map. It cost me a santa hat. True story. Got loads more, wish i had my screenshots still smh.
Great story thanks for sharing sir
I call bullshit that he never took ONE screenshot of his bank at some point, especially if he made a video of himself to prove that it happened. He sold that shit for real cash. Props to these dudes.
no he didnt.
Interesting stuff, I think this may be the same Zephyr I have on my friends list. I don’t add many randoms so he must of been a nice/helpful guy for me to add him.
He is very nice, I got him on my list aswell. Also have him on steam and discord. He is a pretty nice guy
Lmao I've got this guy I think
that was fucking sick to implement their music in to the video and then shout them out. so much respect
The music is awesome, did you happen to check them out?
@@CrumbRS absolutely. i dropped both a follow!
I always love these videos from you. It is amazing to find out different approach to the game. In my opinion, abusing bots felt like robin hood to me. Although they are doing something that is considered wrong, it could also be said that they did that for the goods. I'd consider them as heroes who fought bots scripting in their good faith of the game.
Love the Robin Hood analogy glad you like these videos (:
im surprised it took 17 years for this to be abused.. there was 100k+ players playing this game at one time
That's probably why. It doesn't work as well with a lot of players online because you have a hard time targeting who you want.
Information4 The Youth It’s our life. It’s our childhood. It’s the gameplay mechanics. It’s the drops. It’s the rush. It’s the gains. It’s the levels. It’s the friendships. It’s the laughter. It’s the bosses. It’s the magical realm of Gielinor that I’ve lived in for 15 years and still learn more about every day.
@@TheRSFelon lol youre in way too deep kid
I love this type of video! 20 minutes of my life well spent, thank you 😊
ahoeeeee
Binging your videos I've already watched 10's of times 😂
Every video I watch about RSC brings pain to my heart. Why did they take it from us! Why!!!!
Great video Crumb.
Nice video man
A video on Cls product and the luring community of 2012 would be fun to watch tbh
Oh man, Faytx0 had been on my friends list since the first reopening, that's crazy.
Me too!
Damn I had no clue Medal was made by the old SoulSplit owner, that’s pretty damn cool
18:08 . "I only faked cancer... emily"
Looool wow
Spectrek is a very nice guy, he hooked me up with full rune and a dragon battle axe on RSC just because he knew I was a legit player. That type of generosity is far too rare.
RSC needs to come back with a fresh server, just restart it..
he botted and RWT'ed so much that those items were useless to him. if you want to know more about who he really was, just ask around the rsc community about Jared.
c mike, if you see this noob, you were the first to be teled, love ya
Wow I had no idea this was a thing
Zephyr you did a wonderful job killing those bots...hope you come figure out how to do this on OSRS as well.
Hey cool I was the mage shooting the kbd. We took a lvl 3 guy there on the final day of rsc.
I'm so sad this game is closed now :/ was literally the first mmorpg I had ever played. I remember playing as a kid even before 9/11 happened haha
The British taking down RuneScape classic was the worse attack on the US in its history.
Can't wait for this.
Super interesting :') I really enjoyed the long video 😂 you always explain everything really throughroully, very insightful.
Glad you liked it!
Glad you liked the spelling of thoroughly* 😅
That *'ChloeRenee'* though, nice ;)
lol i dont even play runescape and i swear ive watched every single one of your videos, they're just so interesting
Love you man
@@CrumbRS keep on making these awesome videos man and I'll keep on coming back to watch :D
Another interesting video! Cheers man!
Glad you thought so (:
what i want to know is why the fuck would anyone buy something with irl on a game that has no significance, and is closing
0:46 all the botters saying goodbye lmao
A lot of old timer legit only players returned to say goodbye, not fair to generalize an entire community of people as cheaters.
they never sold any of the items because they treated it as a game? My fukken heroes.
Of course they sold it for real money, that lie is just a cover up
Mod Ash said that on RSC jmods couldn't even figure out how to work the mod tools, and the games integrity was at check. This was really probably the reason why, bugs like this come out. I miss RSC I used to play it all the time, but things like this are the reason why it had to close.
There were some of us in the community that had fixes for the code, and submitted them to JamFlex, and they didn't spend 5 minutes to even review it. I think it came down to the same thing that happened with DarkScape, they didn't want to pay someone to keep developing it.
@@personious_k It was also using a version of Java that was at the end of life.
I've always thought that Classic was a side project for Jmods if they had spare time.
Grumpy Ian nope they genuinely couldn't work on it. Like the guy above said, I knew guys who could fix it who wrote code and everything, Jagex dismissed it like they had no idea what they were doing. It's a shame classic was an actual decent game
@@GrumpyIan we had fixes for that too. Currently, the PS's work on 11, and are being made to work on 12.
Should have asked him if he's going to play a classic private server since the closing of classic.
I believe he does
Subbed since your content has enough puggishness and also very interesting compared to past
this explaisn why i get random level ups in defense maby.
How was this not discovered much earlier by accident, seems like such an easy bug to do
Idk anything about the internet but I definitely have noticed my ads don't need to buffer as much as the content I want to see
Purposeful design.
Get into programming and coding and you’ll see all the cheap tricks they use to fool you or trick you into clicking on something that makes them money.
Why would TH-cam load the video when they can just use their servers to prioritize tons of ads and make money without providing the actual service.
All they care about is how much money they can make from you without being too obvious about it...
Sure they gotta make money, but how they go about it, is what is morally wrong with them.
this makes me wanna play again,i haven't actually played(i'm still a dev) since lobsters and sharks were the highest you could fish i don't know what they've added now really
I keep binge watching these videos lol
Same
I remember the crystal chest bug, and I would've learned about rich folks being teleported into the underground pass while I was compressing through the quest itself on classic. too bad I never got my holiday item on classic :(
Ron LivingStone I only had a hween max. I just found it cool that it was the one of the original items to ever come out all those years ago. Only reason I miss the game
Beautiful video.. enjoyed every minute
I'm glad to hear HoboJo! Thanks for watching (:
Good video my man
Thanks Tom!
The end of this looks like old Hosidius.
Get ready boys
Too bad we don't have some vigilante anti botting measures like this today
The last several years of classic were insane. You could literally bot 24/7. There was no having to re-log back in every 6 hours or whatever. I was so confident I wouldnt get banned I even botted on my main account. I remember one time turning the bot on and going to the beach for a week. I came back and it was still going strong lol. Had a red phat on it too which I thought was pretty cool
Damn I actually met Zephyr in RSC this is pretty crazy to see a story about him
Thanks for the content
"Metal"
You mean ShadowPlay?
lol
Not all heroes wear capes
Yes they do. The infernal cape
Liking the vid before watching is now a standard procedure 👏
Love you
"4:40 wait what? How to be gay just passively dropped
gr8 vid m8 i r8 8/8
This is not a contributing factor to the reason RSC was closed. Jagex mods did not know about this bug. They couldn't even figure out their own broken mod tools. If they knew about it, they would have banned zephyr. They closed it for purely financial reasons.
I don't think he is saying that this bug specifically was a reason, but that bug abuse in general made the game unplayable. And when there is no point to grind in a game like RSC, people stop playing. So yes, financial because too few players were playing, and it cost too much to support the game.
@@orc001 Even if that's what he was saying, bug abuse *did not* make the game unplayable. I was able to get Cape of Legends in the last few months, which, is basically using every piece of content in the game. Parroting the official (bogus) reason given by Jagex that "bugs and bots" were why RSC had to be shut down was repeating a lie. And by placing that lie in the context of this video on a specific flaw in the PID reassignment algorithm, Crumb implied that this bug was part of the "growing number of bugs". Bugs can be fixed, "bots" is a reason to shut down RSC in 2006 when they became rampant (not 2018). Jagex shut it down b/c of Shandong restructuring (getting rid of Funorb at the same time), Java 8 EOL, GPDR, not wanting to make the poor business decision to spend money fixing these issues (and also no one at Jagex loved the game enough to donate their time, or it was just too big a liability for them), basically purely financial reasons. Didn't appreciate Crumb repeating the "bugs and bots" lie.
@@HamburgerExplosion You hit the nail on the head, thank you. I really think that GPDR was overlooked by the community. One other thing worth noting is that the final Gower brother, Ian, had left Jagex in 2016. I wouldn't be surprised if he was the only one there who knew how to, or even cared to re-close RSC as they said they would at the end of 2016. It's entirely possible he was the person keeping it on life support for these last few years.
@@HamburgerExplosion You sound pretty salty.
@@dontask3613 It's important. Perpetuating this "bugs and bots" lie diminishes RSC's legacy. "RSC, isn't that the game that was too buggy to even play?". Yeah, I'm upset that people think that way about RSC.
lol much love to all the names who know yenah
10/10 content man as usual
What? I didn't even know RSC was still running
Great video :)
Oatman plays RuneScape 3.
i still miss RSC :(
I was an oldschool RSC player from 2002 onwards, again took a break after mass ban, When i came back the game was so heavily botted the only way to match players was to bot also,
But an amazing game i have so many fond memories of, rip RSC forever
Wasnt rsc gold only a few cents per mill?
About 25 cents
Yo no joke, Medal sounds pretty handy
trying to find the song that was used at the start, the guy who wrote it only exists on instagram, and that shit is buried under a mountain of un searchable bs.
i still don't see a problem. if it only targets people that world hop then who cares? it only breaks bots.
i enjoyed classic and finally got 57 atk str def hp at varrock wizards, and finally up to 78 mining around all the annoying bots at guild in falador. plus since i'm the only person to stream RS1 i had a few donations from viewers.
Charatix/Beast Fable was streaming as well! And a few others
love peace and chicken feet
Not gonna lie. medal feels better than Nvidia shadowplay. Only time ever ever downloaded a sponsor
Man. I love this sort of thing. Get those botters!
I miss classic so much
That sounds like rs lol "they're attacking our bots, shut it down!!"
Shadows of Michellen.
Love me
Rider?, I remember that name! I was friends with him!
me too man, ryder was my homie. then i saw him with smoke, the green saber, and some ballas and my whole life changed.
I've watched like 10 hours of RuneScape and I don't even play the game lol.
Same and still watching every day xd
Lol virgin
@@AdmissionGaming funny comment
Is pid supposed to mean Player ID vs Process ID like it means in computer science?
Yes
I feel like as long as you're not pushing too long with a video's length it should be fine. i.e. 40-60 minutes and longer is pushing it, for me personally I start loosing interest on videos longer then 30 minutes.
I feel like it's easy to listen to the information you're giving and sometimes needing to look at the screen to completely understand what's going on rather than looking at the screen the entire time to understand the information you're giving.
So I'm saying your videos are really easy to listen to while doing other things. Which I feel like longer videos are nice for your content type. Staying around 20-30 minutes feels like a sweet spot in my opinion.
TL:DR
Just don't push your videos into the 40-60 minute long range and I feel like the longer type of videos will work out with your type of content.
Dang man you can win against the bots lol. Only for a while but just know they’ll come back.
I thought Runescape Classic was the old overhead game, before they made the game 3d.
Crumb what is the best way to get ahold of you? I don't use social media like instagram, twitter, etc. Have something to share I think you would find interesting.
Discord
I’m still confused how they got them to tele there
The damage was tied to the pid of the player not the player itself. So if you had a pid of 12 and did guess 70% damage to it and logged out and logging back in to change your pid the account that logged in and got your old pid will get the drop/ get teleported.
Im actually in the same server as Zephyr I think
Same discord server
Awesome vid
Glad you liked it (:
Yeah i cant find the song used in the video. there instagram is filled with tons of other music i dont wanna listen to, and instagram has no search function. and outside of instagram these guys dont exist. so does anyone have the actual runescape theme remix by this 2 dudes?
I can share it if you're still interested
@@thecoroner7070 still am
aposbot was the name of the RSC bot
The Michelin man?
Wounder if it works on that rsc private server
Your channel has good fucking content
I like metal. Seems like a good sponsor well done crumb
I wouldn't advertise it if I didn't like the software myself. (:
Crumb i wouldnt advertise things I don’t like either, since every ad I see is fast food or gambling i have become less of a consumer 😅 because of that. I think i’m becoming a thief too every time i have to pay $60 or more for my shopping i wanna just run away with the offering!
Yo Crumb, Can you get ahold of kristof, I want to se if he has connections to rider, I havent talked to him since rsc closed.
kRiStOf doesn't know rider, but if you got on discord, most everyone is on there.
what was your rsn
Rider stopped playing when rsc went down since his only goal left was maxing rsc
@@thecoroner7070 My Rsn is Ikeybones17, it has bad stats because i just havent played in a while, and ive kinda lost intrest
@@DohnJoe69 yeah he maxed rs3 and osrs and he got to max combat in rsc
Ahhh all I H S V characters lined up, talk about late game nostalgia
Hsv is nothing but a bitch now tbh.