Great review. I think the movement on the Citizen is better because it's a 4hz, high-beat movement whereas the 6R35 on the Seiko has slower 3hz beat rate. It's not a huge deal, but the sweep of the second hand on the Citizen will be smoother. Add the sapphire crystal and solid endlinks and you got a much better watch overall.
It used to be that when I thought of Citizen I only thought Eco Drive. Watches like this are changing that. I'm taking the Citizen all day. Thanks Matt. 🤘
Seiko better duck because the incoming Citizen have smoother high beat movements at lower prices (under $400USD) with sapphire crystals, thinner cases, solid end links and better polishing.
I bought the exact citiezen watch u show in this video. Its a quality watch. Also have 2 seiko watches new. I feel seiko brand looks after u more. Seiko compàny in sydney also sent me a letter making me feel appreciated. Excellent video too🎉
I want the Citizen - and the price is even better now. But all my bands are 20mm. I know folks squeeze bands by a mm, but can lugs be widened/ground out by a watchmaker?
I have a Citizen Tsuyosa with the black dial. Automatic, Sapphire, solid links, solid end links. For around 300 usd. I'm blown away by the quality for the price.
Thanks for the review. The Citizen is well ahead of the Seiko. Nicer dial, hands, crystal, bracelet, lume...size...all around win. Cheers from Atlantic Canada.
Man...I'm in Japan now and was comparing those two exact watches...Citizen is $380 and Seiko is $230 with a discount! I know Citizen is a better watch but Seiko is $150 cheaper! But thanks to you I'm going to get the Citizen NB 1050! ^^
Liked the comparison, wished you could have done a few more dress watch comparisons between those two brands but I guess it would have been longer and you forget what your learning about all the watches ie it clutters up the brain. I am definitely leaning towards the citizen brand and am looking to purchase a dress watch and for me I would prefer the sapphire crystal dial as it takes it up a class. I would buy a Seiko but they have to up their game a bit. More content about those two brands though please.
Hi. I'd go with the Citizen too, before getting to the part where you forgot the lume, I was gonna said that. Imo, both watches are on the sportier side so, I think having lume is important, 38 vs 40 mm, I prefer 38 that way I can wear it up with a suit, a more solid bracelet and sapphire crystal . No brainer!
That citizen looks beautiful. I have one of their eco-drive divers which is excellent value for money. Seriously considering making this my first citizen automatic.
Hi, I normally wear 41/42mm watches on my 20cm wrist and feel that these beautiful watches are too small for my wrist. or does the cizen optical look more like a 41/42mm watch?
I like the dial, hands, and case size of the Seiko better. Other than that, on the technical side, the Citizen wins by a landslide. Which is a shame, really, because between the two combined, I could have a watch that I really like, here it is like pick your poison.
I own two SZSBs - one gilt/black dial, and one white (or cream) dial. I like them both alot. Honestly, I like the look of the Seikos better - although, I do think the Citizens blue version is much more captivating. Additionally, the overall specs (Bracelet, and saphire, etc) appear to be better too. I wear both my seikos on Leather, and the Bracelet is seldom used. Still, no doubt I would have preferred a better bracelett. In any event, I own a Citizen Pro Master and am a fan of the eco drive. I've no experience, however, with a Citizen automatic. For now, I'm quite happy with my SZSBs. But that blue Citizen, I admit, is very tempting. Nice review.
Thank you sir. Eco-Drive is great technology and I still own a few of them and the SZSB’s are great too but in this instance and in my opinion the Citizen wins. You rock man. Thanks for the comment 🤘🏻
@@johanchandy6238 The white/cream dial. It is my favorite. Had many compliments on it as a matter of fact. But that gilt dial really stands out too. Both are great.
For a comparison between 2 automatic watches, I thought the actual accuracy over a day/week is a must-have, perhaps it is just me ..... for the 2 watches, I have no idea how good the accuracy of the Citizen since they are famous for eco drive more than automatic, but for Seiko, 4 series movement isn't particularly renowned for its accuracy, Seiko do have some decent movement in Presage line, and fine movements in their Grand Seiko series, but as far as entry level (4R35) goes, I don't have much faith in it, some fine tuned units may perform better than others, but the overall performance across different units is a hit and miss.
citizen's very successful eco-drive line has relegated the impeccable automatic series of theirs unfairly in the background. in short, the mechanical watches of citizen are victims of their company's own success.
To me, the Citizen easily wins this comparison. I had hoped the SZSB line might be a revival of the SARB line that was so good, but nope. The Citizen 9000 is probably closer to the old 6R15 in the SARB033/35, the SARB had sapphire like the Citizen, and while not perfect (bracelet), it was closer to the Citizen overall. This is only closer to the Citizen in list price. The lack of lume is something I am glad you called out, because I think that's a miss as well. Coming on bracelet, this reads as more dressy sport watch and I think should have at least some lume. The hollow end links is just weird, like you said. Why skimp out in there? In the Seiko's defense, I have seen not uncommon sales of the SZSB down to $275, which makes the specs a little more reasonable (still not great). It does LOOK great though, and on a nice strap would look more expensive. If I didn't already have a blue SPB089 Alpinist (on a Strapcode bracelet), I might be tempted to get the Citizen to fill that blue sports watch hole in my collection.
I just bought the black dial version of the seiko on a flash sale from Amazon for 90 USD. The seiko also frequently goes on sale on Amazon for anywhere from 150-300. Just depends on timing and luck. I can’t speak for the citizen.
The thing that you missed it the citizen has an objectively better movement. As a premium 9000 series versus the crappy 4r movement that say go used on that watch
Все эти мелкие преимущества citizen связаны с тем, что часы предназначены для внутреннего рынка, а как известно, японцы для себя всегда делают лучше, чем для других на экспорт! Как минимум из-за этого можно выбрать citizen, ну и из-за сходства с rolex oyster perpetual, хорошая модель, как ступень к oyster!
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You forgot to mention the Citizen has scratch protection Duratect coating. This one really outperforms any Seiko for the price!
You are correct sir. Good point.
Great review. I think the movement on the Citizen is better because it's a 4hz, high-beat movement whereas the 6R35 on the Seiko has slower 3hz beat rate. It's not a huge deal, but the sweep of the second hand on the Citizen will be smoother. Add the sapphire crystal and solid endlinks and you got a much better watch overall.
It used to be that when I thought of Citizen I only thought Eco Drive. Watches like this are changing that. I'm taking the Citizen all day. Thanks Matt. 🤘
Me too bro. Eco Drive is excellent tech but I think a lot of people think that is all Citizen does.
Seiko better duck because the incoming Citizen have smoother high beat movements at lower prices (under $400USD) with sapphire crystals, thinner cases, solid end links and better polishing.
I’d have to completely agree Matt.. For me the only thing better on the Seiko is the hands. I need one of those Citizens 👀
I have both.
Both are good watches👍
from Japan.
I bought the exact citiezen watch u show in this video. Its a quality watch. Also have 2 seiko watches new. I feel seiko brand looks after u more. Seiko compàny in sydney also sent me a letter making me feel appreciated. Excellent video too🎉
I want the Citizen - and the price is even better now. But all my bands are 20mm. I know folks squeeze bands by a mm, but can lugs be widened/ground out by a watchmaker?
I have a Citizen Tsuyosa with the black dial. Automatic, Sapphire, solid links, solid end links. For around 300 usd. I'm blown away by the quality for the price.
Thanks for the review. The Citizen is well ahead of the Seiko. Nicer dial, hands, crystal, bracelet, lume...size...all around win. Cheers from Atlantic Canada.
Citizen rules Bill🤘🏻
When you show up the back Window on both watches, can see on the Citizen have a beautiful geneva stripes on the movement very clasic👌🏻
This is the review I needed thanks
You’re welcome 🤠
Man...I'm in Japan now and was comparing those two exact watches...Citizen is $380 and Seiko is $230 with a discount! I know Citizen is a better watch but Seiko is $150 cheaper! But thanks to you I'm going to get the Citizen NB 1050! ^^
Great man. You will not be disappointed. 🤘🏻
Liked the comparison, wished you could have done a few more dress watch comparisons between those two brands but I guess it would have been longer and you forget what your learning about all the watches ie it clutters up the brain. I am definitely leaning towards the citizen brand and am looking to purchase a dress watch and for me I would prefer the sapphire crystal dial as it takes it up a class. I would buy a Seiko but they have to up their game a bit. More content about those two brands though please.
Hi. I'd go with the Citizen too, before getting to the part where you forgot the lume, I was gonna said that. Imo, both watches are on the sportier side so, I think having lume is important, 38 vs 40 mm, I prefer 38 that way I can wear it up with a suit, a more solid bracelet and sapphire crystal . No brainer!
Rock On man 🤘🏻
That citizen looks beautiful. I have one of their eco-drive divers which is excellent value for money.
Seriously considering making this my first citizen automatic.
It is a beautiful watch. I do not regret picking it up.
Citizen is so underrated. I love the NB1050. Better overall! Just wish it had shorter lug to lug or female endlinks at least. Citizen FTW! 🤟
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Both fantastic brands
Hi, I normally wear 41/42mm watches on my 20cm wrist and feel that these beautiful watches are too small for my wrist. or does the cizen optical look more like a 41/42mm watch?
No it definitely looks like a 38mm
@@rockthewatch I'm in love with this watch, but I'm afraid it will look too small compared to my 20cm wrist and 38mm watch.
@@rockthewatch I'm in love with this watch, but I'm afraid it will look too small compared to my 20cm wrist and 38mm watch.
Two good mark, it's hard, i bought my first seiko neo classic black dial and lumimous SUR 461 quartz with saphir crystal
For me it’s Seiko all day every day ❤️
Feel you bro. I love Seiko. Just wish they would do better. 😃
@@rockthewatch Agree with you there.
The Citizen is definitely the better watch. Seriously good value right now (under $400). 🤯
I like the dial, hands, and case size of the Seiko better. Other than that, on the technical side, the Citizen wins by a landslide. Which is a shame, really, because between the two combined, I could have a watch that I really like, here it is like pick your poison.
Had a Citizen for years never missed a beat
Fantastic watches
Fantastic watches
I own two SZSBs - one gilt/black dial, and one white (or cream) dial. I like them both alot. Honestly, I like the look of the Seikos better - although, I do think the Citizens blue version is much more captivating. Additionally, the overall specs (Bracelet, and saphire, etc) appear to be better too. I wear both my seikos on Leather, and the Bracelet is seldom used. Still, no doubt I would have preferred a better bracelett.
In any event, I own a Citizen Pro Master and am a fan of the eco drive. I've no experience, however, with a Citizen automatic. For now, I'm quite happy with my SZSBs. But that blue Citizen, I admit, is very tempting. Nice review.
Thank you sir. Eco-Drive is great technology and I still own a few of them and the SZSB’s are great too but in this instance and in my opinion the Citizen wins. You rock man. Thanks for the comment 🤘🏻
Which of the two SZSBs you own do you like better?
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The white/cream dial. It is my favorite. Had many compliments on it as a matter of fact. But that gilt dial really stands out too. Both are great.
@@glen193 Awesome to hear! The white/cream dial was what I was leaning towards as well. Such good looking watches.
For a comparison between 2 automatic watches, I thought the actual accuracy over a day/week is a must-have, perhaps it is just me ..... for the 2 watches, I have no idea how good the accuracy of the Citizen since they are famous for eco drive more than automatic, but for Seiko, 4 series movement isn't particularly renowned for its accuracy, Seiko do have some decent movement in Presage line, and fine movements in their Grand Seiko series, but as far as entry level (4R35) goes, I don't have much faith in it, some fine tuned units may perform better than others, but the overall performance across different units is a hit and miss.
citizen's very successful eco-drive line has relegated the impeccable automatic series of theirs unfairly in the background. in short, the mechanical watches of citizen are victims of their company's own success.
Citizen wins! Flawless Victory.
Seiko is 👍is tissot better?
Bet you thought you'd NEVER hear this from me...🧐
This round goes to the Citizen 😳.
I'd have no problem buying this one ⌚😎👍
Whoa! Yeah Buddy 🤘🏻
Here should be the Orient Star Basic Date to fer the Japan trinity together
To me, the Citizen easily wins this comparison. I had hoped the SZSB line might be a revival of the SARB line that was so good, but nope. The Citizen 9000 is probably closer to the old 6R15 in the SARB033/35, the SARB had sapphire like the Citizen, and while not perfect (bracelet), it was closer to the Citizen overall. This is only closer to the Citizen in list price. The lack of lume is something I am glad you called out, because I think that's a miss as well. Coming on bracelet, this reads as more dressy sport watch and I think should have at least some lume. The hollow end links is just weird, like you said. Why skimp out in there? In the Seiko's defense, I have seen not uncommon sales of the SZSB down to $275, which makes the specs a little more reasonable (still not great). It does LOOK great though, and on a nice strap would look more expensive. If I didn't already have a blue SPB089 Alpinist (on a Strapcode bracelet), I might be tempted to get the Citizen to fill that blue sports watch hole in my collection.
Absolutely agree on all points. Thanks for the comment. You ROCK 🤘🏻
I just bought the black dial version of the seiko on a flash sale from Amazon for 90 USD. The seiko also frequently goes on sale on Amazon for anywhere from 150-300. Just depends on timing and luck. I can’t speak for the citizen.
$403? I’ve seen the SZSB line go for way way less
Agreed. However at the time of filming this video it was that price.
Depends on the color of dial. The szsb price continues to go up especially the blue dial. I'm guessing cuz of sarb and grand seiko looks of the szsb.
Agree 100% that the Citizen is MUCH better for the $$
The Miyota movement 9××× is a bit better than the 6R15.
Wish the citizen had the dauphine handset. That's the only thing that dissappints me from the citizen.
I like the dial, size and smoothness of Citizen movement better, I prefer the dauphin hands of the Seiko. It’s a tossup for me!
lighter links , hello thank you ...
Both of them are no good, because they don't have signed crown..I don't know why.
Not an automatic fan so eco drive all day long better bang for buck
The thing that you missed it the citizen has an objectively better movement. As a premium 9000 series versus the crappy 4r movement that say go used on that watch
Все эти мелкие преимущества citizen связаны с тем, что часы предназначены для внутреннего рынка, а как известно, японцы для себя всегда делают лучше, чем для других на экспорт! Как минимум из-за этого можно выбрать citizen, ну и из-за сходства с rolex oyster perpetual, хорошая модель, как ступень к oyster!
Reviews with no wrist shots should be illegal :p
Seiko is all rounder and better than any other watch accuracy 🎉
*SEIKO*
Person of the State wins
Seiko is now overpriced. You get almost half of what you get with Citizen.
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