😂😂😂 you have to remember bowling on a lane by yourself you can create a shot. Bowling with 9 other people is a whole other game 🤷🏽♂️. Also you can change your pick if you would like as long as it’s before we start bowling. Do you know what balls I’m taking?
I got the AI and I gotta admit, I like it and I am all about it with polish. It holds in oil and is clean in the dry. I got a 300 on the 5th game out of the box in league play! It did me well at the last tournament I was in, so I am a fan of how it is...lol.
Well I’m happy that you like, and I also like it as well for me I need surface on it to slow it down. That ball with polish on it along with my rev rate shapes so much that it creates over under.
I am a low-mid rev that throws about 13-14 mph. Looking to revamp my arsenal. I dont bowl as much or competively as I use to. I think I need to pair down to one pearl, one solid and a hybrid. I have a plastic for my 7 pin (yes I am a left). the PHase AI was recommended but after reviewing the video I am not sure that its the right fit for me. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Been bowling since I was 4 and still do not understand alot of the jargon used, so please use basic terms. THanks! I really learned a lot from the videos
@@badbadbowling101 I have a storm axiom, storm crux, ebonite envision And hammer black widow and a plastic. Don’t know if it makes a difference but two are drilled with the pin above the fingers and two drilled below. Two different house drillers did these balls.
@@AMFthereturn that’s what I’m not sure. For the way I throw I’m not sure that what I have is the best for me. I use to throw aggressive but with some coaching I have slowed down. But I digress. the pearl I have has a couple defects and needs to be replaced. The rest I’m not sure if they are what I need to be throwing for my style
@@hermanecheverri9849 if you take a look at the last addition of the yo yo release video i believe it has slow motion of my release from back and side view. If that’s not what you’re looking for then I will make an even better one for you no problem.
@BadBadBowling101 how would this compare to the Summit Peak? My summit peak reads super hard on the midland with a 2.4 something RG hoping to find something with a little more length for when lanes have carry down and transition.
That’s a great question, and to be honest with I think they read about the same place. Have you tried changing the surface on your summit peak? Maybe take it up to 4 or 5000 grit without polish allowing it to blend the lane.
From what i've seen from other bowlers throwing the Phaze AI, including yourself, it looks like this would definitely compliment the Phaze 2 or be great for transition. Maybe like a 2nd game ball, going into the 3rd game, until you have to ball down one more time. Not sure if that makes sense but, thanks for the video
Well to be honest with you if I find a surface I like on a ball.. then I will immediately apply surface to it after I’m done using it each time. Remember the lanes change the surface of your ball before the 6th frame of the first game. The reason the ball continues to work so well is that the lanes breakdown with it.
I hit it with 1000, 2000, 3000 then with the p5000D true cut pad. I’m going to take all pearls and one solid. Max trill pearl, scorpion strike, rhino silver and green. Either the Magic Gem or Ion Max which won’t be used unless it’s a really bad night. Oh and the Phaze AI
@@badbadbowling101 Sounds like I better up the score then! Can’t wait to see the Phaze AI in action today. Could you imagine if Allen Iverson trademarked A.I back in the day?😆
Polish isn't what makes it pearl. Pearl is in the coverstock itself. Same that you can "shine" up a solid, or have a hybrid shiny or dull. For instance, I have an original zen (og pour, 1500 grit polished before that went away). I mostly keep that at surface. If I'm bowling in an intermediate pattern, mid-volume, I'll throw it at 2k. For league, I keep it around 3k. But my zen gold label I keep shiny The roto grip clone a few years ago was a solid, but came shined up with polish, on the other hand.
@agiraffenamedpenguin Wait!! The polish on a ball has nothing to do with the makeup of the ball nor did I ever insinuated it did. What I did say was the polish on the ball weather it’s power edge, 4k or reacta gloss changes the ball reaction when hitting friction. I also said some people need the polish to get the reaction they’re looking for, however I’m not one of them people. I like my pearls as well as any other ball I throw to blend end of the pattern. If I want my pearl or any other ball to go long I can get length by simply putting higher surface on the ball. Example 5000 grit actually has a shine to it, but blends the end of the pattern. 🤷🏽♂️
Hi Alex well for me taking the power edge off allowed the ball to be smoother, and cleaned off the end of the pattern. If you watch the video you will be able to see the difference.
@@badbadbowling101 I saw the Video 👍 When you make a 13 ball Arsenal, what balls did you Take? The only ball i left in my bag is an original AMF Angel Plus from the 80s Im playing bowling now for 40 years. Alex
@@alexstriker1969aw when I make a bag that big it’s normally just for tournaments. If I know what the shot will be that helps narrow my bag. If I don’t know I build my bag pretty evenly I start at the top with strong Asymmetrical’s and symmetrical solids. Then I stagger the balls down from there ending with my burn balls. Also make sure I have at least 1 urethane in my bag also.
What I did is put it on the ball spinner.. I hit it with 1000, 2000, 3000 then the true cut p5000D pad. So it will read about 4500, and the goal was to have it blend the lane instead of the violent reaction it had touching the dry boards. It worked 🤷🏽♂️
I ordered my Optimum Idol Pearl and can’t wait to try it! How do you like it? I’m a slower speed and rev player. My pro shop guy told me to get it and that it fits my game. Hopefully, it is as good as advertised.
Well what I can tell you is I’m throwing pearls in league. I need to see if that will match the lanes a little better. I’m also not using any polish to get the Peals to blend the lane. So what I can tell you is this Motiv max thrill pearl.. Hammer Scorpion Strike… Rhino Green and silver… one solid which will be Ion Max or Magic Gem. Final ball is Phaze AI which I might start with 🤷🏽♂️. I will announce starting ball on the breakpoint.
I can honestly say I have never heard any of them say that. I watch Darren, and Chris Barnes. I never keep on factory finish matter of fact I hate the over, under polish creates.
@@badbadbowling101 I only hear them say that in regards to the "shiny" balls. Apparently Storm has a particular finish on their pearls that nobody likes. I think it's called "reacta-gloss" but I could be mistaken about the name. I only own one Storm ball, my Rubicon UC3 and it is an asymmetric urethane. It is a very interesting ball that I haven't used much but it is the only asymmetric and only urethane ball in my collection so it fills a couple of voids for me. I really like the shape and versatility of the ball but it doesn't really seem to be made for use on a house shot. Of course, the lane conditions at my center are so inconsistent from week to week. Mostly because they stopped oiling the lanes for my league so we bowl on the transition from the league before us.
@@ObjectiveEthics that’s has the be a very interesting league to bowl on the burn each week. I have never heard a storm staffer say anything negative about any ball including the polish on it. Reacta-gloss, 4k fast hell anything SPI puts on a bowling ball is trash 🤷🏽♂️
Box surface isn't the end all be all. I know I like more surface than most balls come with today. I like that you will adjust surface to meet what you want to see. I know bowlers who say they only throw box surface. I will ask how many games they have thrown with it. 50. I then ask them when did you last refresh or refinish ball. They then say never. I then tell them you are not at box surface anymore and then look at me with a stupid stare.😂😂
😂😂😂😂 facts.. I always hit all my equipment with surface to be honest. I never leave box finish on anything, but for reviews I tend to let the people see what it looks like before I change it.
I just ordered an Optimum Idol Pearl. I had a Pearl ball and seem to have way better luck with Pearl bowling balls for my game. I'm a slower speed and rev player. I also have a 900 Global Xponent and an IQ Tour Solid, also an older original Zen ball, so I like the polish on bowling balls, but maybe that's just me.
Hey everyone like things how they do. I bowl on sports shots so I like my equipment with a little surface. I also think you have a pretty awesome core of bowling balls there. I imagine you could have left the surface on any ball. It just so happens my rev rate is a lot higher than my ball speed 420-15mph. Also, the reason why I take the polish off is because polish for me creates over under what that means is one board to the left. It does one thing and one board to the right it does something different and sometimes hitting the same exact board has multiple reactions. How do you take the polish off a ball use pads to do so sanding pads that is.
@badbadbowling101 so with me having less revs slower speed I tend to benefit from the extra hook these polish balls give me like the optimum idol pearl I just got you think that's true?
What surface do you like on your Xponent?
2000 because it allows it to blend the lane
Looks like a big series tonight...wished I had seen this before I put my guess in.
😂😂😂 you have to remember bowling on a lane by yourself you can create a shot. Bowling with 9 other people is a whole other game 🤷🏽♂️. Also you can change your pick if you would like as long as it’s before we start bowling. Do you know what balls I’m taking?
I got the AI and I gotta admit, I like it and I am all about it with polish. It holds in oil and is clean in the dry. I got a 300 on the 5th game out of the box in league play! It did me well at the last tournament I was in, so I am a fan of how it is...lol.
Well I’m happy that you like, and I also like it as well for me I need surface on it to slow it down. That ball with polish on it along with my rev rate shapes so much that it creates over under.
I am a low-mid rev that throws about 13-14 mph. Looking to revamp my arsenal. I dont bowl as much or competively as I use to. I think I need to pair down to one pearl, one solid and a hybrid. I have a plastic for my 7 pin (yes I am a left). the PHase AI was recommended but after reviewing the video I am not sure that its the right fit for me. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Been bowling since I was 4 and still do not understand alot of the jargon used, so please use basic terms. THanks! I really learned a lot from the videos
What do you currently have now?
I was just going to ask that question haha
@@badbadbowling101 I have a storm axiom, storm crux, ebonite envision
And hammer black widow and a plastic. Don’t know if it makes a difference but two are drilled with the pin above the fingers and two drilled below. Two different house drillers did these balls.
@@bjrinke3872 so it looks like you are trying to fill a spot at the bottom of the bag? Or is this replacing one of your current balls?
@@AMFthereturn that’s what I’m not sure. For the way I throw I’m not sure that what I have is the best for me. I use to throw aggressive but with some coaching I have slowed down. But I digress. the pearl I have has a couple defects and needs to be replaced. The rest I’m not sure if they are what I need to be throwing for my style
Coach can you show me the hand release you use in slow motion?
I agree no polish is much better on the AI.
@@hermanecheverri9849 if you take a look at the last addition of the yo yo release video i believe it has slow motion of my release from back and side view. If that’s not what you’re looking for then I will make an even better one for you no problem.
hi coach i love how you reply i just order one should i 2k pad it i heard polish not that good
It’s not that the polish isn’t good it’s that it creates over/under which isn’t good.
@@badbadbowling101 yes coach i tried it out of box and it was flipping alot of over and under so i told him to 3k pad it
@BadBadBowling101 how would this compare to the Summit Peak? My summit peak reads super hard on the midland with a 2.4 something RG hoping to find something with a little more length for when lanes have carry down and transition.
That’s a great question, and to be honest with I think they read about the same place. Have you tried changing the surface on your summit peak? Maybe take it up to 4 or 5000 grit without polish allowing it to blend the lane.
@@badbadbowling101 thank you😀. I will do that today, I haven’t thought of that solution 😀As always great video and excellent content 😀
From what i've seen from other bowlers throwing the Phaze AI, including yourself, it looks like this would definitely compliment the Phaze 2 or be great for transition. Maybe like a 2nd game ball, going into the 3rd game, until you have to ball down one more time. Not sure if that makes sense but, thanks for the video
Sure it does!! I’m not a P2 kind of guy, but it might have a lot more shape than the P2
Would this ball be above the lightning blackout but below the attention Star? Thanks Coach
Definitely above the lightning black for sure… this might be in the same spot as the attention star.
Ok coach,
How often do you apply surface after the initial hit
Well to be honest with you if I find a surface I like on a ball.. then I will immediately apply surface to it after I’m done using it each time. Remember the lanes change the surface of your ball before the 6th frame of the first game. The reason the ball continues to work so well is that the lanes breakdown with it.
How much surface did you hit it with coach? What is it replacing in your bag? Good luck tomorrow!
I hit it with 1000, 2000, 3000 then with the p5000D true cut pad. I’m going to take all pearls and one solid. Max trill pearl, scorpion strike, rhino silver and green. Either the Magic Gem or Ion Max which won’t be used unless it’s a really bad night. Oh and the Phaze AI
@@badbadbowling101 Sounds like I better up the score then! Can’t wait to see the Phaze AI in action today. Could you imagine if Allen Iverson trademarked A.I back in the day?😆
@@pho_bowlerStu Williams said the same thing this morning on the Beef and Barnzy show.
So how do you take the polish off and still keep it pearl?
Polish isn't what makes it pearl. Pearl is in the coverstock itself. Same that you can "shine" up a solid, or have a hybrid shiny or dull.
For instance, I have an original zen (og pour, 1500 grit polished before that went away). I mostly keep that at surface. If I'm bowling in an intermediate pattern, mid-volume, I'll throw it at 2k. For league, I keep it around 3k. But my zen gold label I keep shiny
The roto grip clone a few years ago was a solid, but came shined up with polish, on the other hand.
@agiraffenamedpenguin Wait!! The polish on a ball has nothing to do with the makeup of the ball nor did I ever insinuated it did. What I did say was the polish on the ball weather it’s power edge, 4k or reacta gloss changes the ball reaction when hitting friction. I also said some people need the polish to get the reaction they’re looking for, however I’m not one of them people. I like my pearls as well as any other ball I throw to blend end of the pattern. If I want my pearl or any other ball to go long I can get length by simply putting higher surface on the ball. Example 5000 grit actually has a shine to it, but blends the end of the pattern. 🤷🏽♂️
@@badbadbowling101 I didn't suggest you did. I was responding to the commenter @allenthomas914
Hi
What is the diffrence for the ball, with Power Edge and without Power Edge?
Alex
Hi Alex well for me taking the power edge off allowed the ball to be smoother, and cleaned off the end of the pattern. If you watch the video you will be able to see the difference.
@@badbadbowling101 I saw the Video 👍 When you make a 13 ball Arsenal, what balls did you Take?
The only ball i left in my bag is an original AMF Angel Plus from the 80s
Im playing bowling now for 40 years.
Alex
@@alexstriker1969aw when I make a bag that big it’s normally just for tournaments. If I know what the shot will be that helps narrow my bag. If I don’t know I build my bag pretty evenly I start at the top with strong Asymmetrical’s and symmetrical solids. Then I stagger the balls down from there ending with my burn balls. Also make sure I have at least 1 urethane in my bag also.
The Phaze AI is Awesome Indeed. I think it would be a great medium/sharp option to compliment the Phaze 2 (medium/smooth)
It’s a good ball for sure I’m just not sure where it fits
To me it looks a lot more controllable with the surface. What did you hit it with. I have everything from 500 to 4000
What I did is put it on the ball spinner.. I hit it with 1000, 2000, 3000 then the true cut p5000D pad. So it will read about 4500, and the goal was to have it blend the lane instead of the violent reaction it had touching the dry boards. It worked 🤷🏽♂️
I need a radical no doubt review, I won a no doubt and a mesmerize in a raffle this week. Dont worry coach imma still throw my tnt as my main ball.
The TNT drives me mad
My question is if you already have the Optimum idol Pearl would you even need the Phaze A.I?
Great question and the answer is a big fat no
@@badbadbowling101 Thanks. Love your content.
@garybryant1225 thank you that’s an amazing thing to hear.. 💪🏽
I ordered my Optimum Idol Pearl and can’t wait to try it! How do you like it? I’m a slower speed and rev player. My pro shop guy told me to get it and that it fits my game. Hopefully, it is as good as advertised.
There you are.. i like the look of that ball.. i was told to check it out. But i want the Optimum idol
You want the Optimum Idol because it’s pink right? Lol
Yes please Pepto bismol pink at that. 😅
It looks like the DV8 Mantra a little if you could do a comparison that would be cool
I gave that ball away!! Let me see if I can get another one
What you taking to league Coach C
Well what I can tell you is I’m throwing pearls in league. I need to see if that will match the lanes a little better. I’m also not using any polish to get the Peals to blend the lane. So what I can tell you is this Motiv max thrill pearl.. Hammer Scorpion Strike… Rhino Green and silver… one solid which will be Ion Max or Magic Gem. Final ball is Phaze AI which I might start with 🤷🏽♂️. I will announce starting ball on the breakpoint.
The pattern you were playing on, looks like a beaten house shot. Am I correct? :)
Good eye but to be honest with you that was our house shot, and only balls rolled on it was me warming up.
@@badbadbowling101 So how many feet 42 on that lane?
All the Storm sponsored guys say they take the factory polish off every ball they test. This is a disturbing trend for that line in my opinion.
I can honestly say I have never heard any of them say that. I watch Darren, and Chris Barnes. I never keep on factory finish matter of fact I hate the over, under polish creates.
@@badbadbowling101 I only hear them say that in regards to the "shiny" balls. Apparently Storm has a particular finish on their pearls that nobody likes. I think it's called "reacta-gloss" but I could be mistaken about the name.
I only own one Storm ball, my Rubicon UC3 and it is an asymmetric urethane. It is a very interesting ball that I haven't used much but it is the only asymmetric and only urethane ball in my collection so it fills a couple of voids for me.
I really like the shape and versatility of the ball but it doesn't really seem to be made for use on a house shot. Of course, the lane conditions at my center are so inconsistent from week to week. Mostly because they stopped oiling the lanes for my league so we bowl on the transition from the league before us.
@@ObjectiveEthics that’s has the be a very interesting league to bowl on the burn each week. I have never heard a storm staffer say anything negative about any ball including the polish on it. Reacta-gloss, 4k fast hell anything SPI puts on a bowling ball is trash 🤷🏽♂️
Its cuz reactagloss was terrible for a long time. The new line should (hopefully) fix that issue.
Box surface isn't the end all be all. I know I like more surface than most balls come with today. I like that you will adjust surface to meet what you want to see. I know bowlers who say they only throw box surface. I will ask how many games they have thrown with it. 50. I then ask them when did you last refresh or refinish ball. They then say never. I then tell them you are not at box surface anymore and then look at me with a stupid stare.😂😂
😂😂😂😂 facts.. I always hit all my equipment with surface to be honest. I never leave box finish on anything, but for reviews I tend to let the people see what it looks like before I change it.
That ball has been at a stable 4700 grit for quite some time lol
@@shanenorthrop1969 definitely not what box was
I just ordered an Optimum Idol Pearl. I had a Pearl ball and seem to have way better luck with Pearl bowling balls for my game. I'm a slower speed and rev player. I also have a 900 Global Xponent and an IQ Tour Solid, also an older original Zen ball, so I like the polish on bowling balls, but maybe that's just me.
Hey everyone like things how they do. I bowl on sports shots so I like my equipment with a little surface. I also think you have a pretty awesome core of bowling balls there. I imagine you could have left the surface on any ball. It just so happens my rev rate is a lot higher than my ball speed 420-15mph. Also, the reason why I take the polish off is because polish for me creates over under what that means is one board to the left. It does one thing and one board to the right it does something different and sometimes hitting the same exact board has multiple reactions. How do you take the polish off a ball use pads to do so sanding pads that is.
@badbadbowling101 so with me having less revs slower speed I tend to benefit from the extra hook these polish balls give me like the optimum idol pearl I just got you think that's true?
@@allenthomas914 absolutely it’s definitely helps you.
@@badbadbowling101 ok thanks glad I made sure good choice
Personal opinion all I throw are pearls from roto and storm n I love my optimum idol pearl
Also to answer your question coach, polish is not the reason why it took off. Polished solid balls represent that well, coverstock>finish.
But what's the point of taking the polish off? Just get a ball that does the same thing that this ball is doing without the polish taken off.
Ok so by your logic please find a ball that does what this one does without the polish??? The phaze 4 is illegal 🤷🏽♂️
@@badbadbowling101 okay so the phase 4 is the only ball in existence that does what this ball just did when you took the polish off? GTFOH
A high percentage of bowlers mess around with the surfaces of their balls after getting them. Its pretty standard.