You make it look so easy... When the weather allows it I am going to attempt this for the first time in a back yard tree. I won't be climbing more than a short distance for a while, but it looks like a good place to learn.
@@sylvernale I agree. But it would still be a good skill to know in an emergency situation if someone is mildly injured or couldn't normally climb a rope unassisted and needs to. Or if a lack of preparation limits the equipment on hand.
Came here to learn about rope management after watching video of how 2 students died from getting entangled with their ropes and was curious how it was possible. Thank you for the detailed video!
Tomorrow will be the first time I've done this in fifty years, so well see how it goes. As I recall it, I use a line on each foot. A third line goes to my seat harness to use for resting. I make a 'stirp' from two plastic hoses (one inside the other) to keep the rope from crushing my feet. In the above video, it would be hard to bend my leg so far as to lose the leverage so using two legs I can take smaller and quicker 'steps' up the rope. I will run the lines (at least one of them) through a chest harness to keep me close to the rope. Something along those lines to push my 69 year old body up about 30 feet. Nice voice on the guy in the video, as if southern Americans could understand those Brits anyway. Enjoy.
I prefer to use a bachman for ascending ropes (crevasse self rescue practice mostly) because when your rope is wet/frozen and your hands are too, or you are wearing gloves, the big carabiners are really nice as handles to break the knot and move it up. Not to mention, it can be tied with only one free end in a pinch. I like a Texas prusik for my feet so I don't have to do a s#!+ ton of pistol squats the whole way up, takes a bit more prep though. Haha
We were out practising this at the local crag yesterday. Great instructions btw and all went well until I got to the top. I couldnt progress over the top with the body prussik. For all intents I beach whaled myself hauling on the static rope to get over. Not elegant. Is there a more savvy way to topout on prussiks?
For the clove hitch backup, do you leave it where it is as you ascend? Or do you take in the rope so it's relatively close to your body and you won't fall too far if both prusiks fail?
I like seeing content like this but it scares me that someone is going to go and try this while only following the video and not really knowing what they are doing.
Agreed. Practiced this with someone in the gym, and guy got stuck some meters up with his knots completely jammed. Took a while to get him down. Good thing it didn't happen outside though, so trying these things indoors is actually quite nice.
Very nice video. I am looking for this same type video and example such as this, yet a video to Show how to utilize this method without use of climbing gear( such as emergency situation and your without your actual climbing safety gear). Teach how to in emergency with no man made harnesses Only rope
You can definitely use a wider loop and use both feet, but most of the time you're climbing along a cliff, so it's useful to have a free leg to stand on the rocks where possible, or use the leg to lean against the cliff to stabilize yourself and/or prevent yourself from hitting the cliff.
I dunno. Most likely an anchor. They send guys up to free climb 10 feet and install a climbing bolt and an anchor. I guess you could get your buddy to do that or throw a grappling hook up there.
Am I crazy or did he do the same knot for both but just misspoke and meant to do a different knot. The first knot he ties which he called “French Prusik” looks like what I know as a klemheist knot. Then he did the same thing for the other and said “klemheist knot”.
It works well until I had to sit down a bit too hard. once the kleimheist got too much pressure on it it just refuses to come lose. It's like its welded to the rope. I eventually got it lose but it took about 20 minutes to do so.
Right. Most people just climb up the rope u just double hand it no feet no tie ins. You think im made of money? I cant afford rope harnesses and carabiners. Just do the dulfersitz rappel on the way down. boom. Im just funning with you I dont even own rope bro..I own 1 rope. I use it to pull the chainsaws up. im like free solo in the arborist world.
I would distinguish between ascending a rope and aid climbing. In aid climbing you start at the bottom of a wall with all of your equipment and you do basically whatever you need to do to get to the top of the wall from there. When ascending a rope, you already have equipment set up that you are using. Ascending a rope can be part of aid climbing, e.g. you are belaying the aid leader and then you just ascend the rope to catch up or if you set a fixed line for abseiling to get supplies.
everyone is better off watching Outdoor Research videos on these climbing tips, theyre much better made and explained. even better yet would be to get a guide to teach you
Paul-François Bruno hence the clove hitch as a backup when you get far enough off the ground. Also the likelihood of both prussics slipping is quite low.
It is possible that the cords slip (addressed in the video) so that's why a kleimheist was used for the main load bearing and the French prusik was the foot loop. Kleimheist loads well in one direction and runs freer the other. A regular prusik can get tough to move after loading. Take care making sure you get stuff set before you put weight on the system
You're not wrong. But mechanical devices fail too. I, myself feel safer hanging from two nylon cords because when they fail they slip, so it's a gradual failure you can recover from. If a mechanical brake fails it's usually a much more sudden outcome. This is of course only my experience, and I have no problem using either.
This is wrong. Your main prusik should be long as ur arm reach when u sif in harness. And u can use 2 "pedals" for both of legs. U can literally walk on rope.
I'm not a climber but did do a rescue course, and as you say, that is how we prusiked up a rope. One on each foot and the 3rd caribinerred to the chest harness. It was then very easy to "walk" up the rope as you say. We had a second rope in parallel as a safety
How do you think black people from all over the world get stuff of high trees? Do you think some white person come get it for us? If you're thinking recreationally, then you might make sense.
Good to see Trev's face here. He's a great dude. If you want to go on an amazing climbing trip somewhere warm, look him up!
In Italy we call that knot Machard and Prusick is a similar one, but the sling starts to "wrap" itself from the centre.
You make it look so easy... When the weather allows it I am going to attempt this for the first time in a back yard tree. I won't be climbing more than a short distance for a while, but it looks like a good place to learn.
I feel like using this method would allow even people that would normally have issues climbing ropes ascend safely. Good skill to have.
Imo this is super involved and makes people feel top heavy. Jumars would help the average person way more
@@sylvernale I agree. But it would still be a good skill to know in an emergency situation if someone is mildly injured or couldn't normally climb a rope unassisted and needs to. Or if a lack of preparation limits the equipment on hand.
Nice video! If the upper prusik were slightly longer, it would be easier to ascending.
That's incredible! I prefer using my mechanical devices but this is fascinating that it can be done with cord like that!!
Came here to learn about rope management after watching video of how 2 students died from getting entangled with their ropes and was curious how it was possible. Thank you for the detailed video!
And in a couple of years, you will arrive at your destination. Thumbs up.
How do I come down? I’m stuck up a tree
call an arborist
😂😂
First, ask yourself WHY do you want to come down
Use the force
Getting down is easy..... It's getting up is the difficult task.... Just try hop Scotch or the tango while up there... Guarantee you come down fast.
Tomorrow will be the first time I've done this in fifty years, so well see how it goes. As I recall it, I use a line on each foot. A third line goes to my seat harness to use for resting. I make a 'stirp' from two plastic hoses (one inside the other) to keep the rope from crushing my feet. In the above video, it would be hard to bend my leg so far as to lose the leverage so using two legs I can take smaller and quicker 'steps' up the rope. I will run the lines (at least one of them) through a chest harness to keep me close to the rope. Something along those lines to push my 69 year old body up about 30 feet. Nice voice on the guy in the video, as if southern Americans could understand those Brits anyway. Enjoy.
Love it! Super useful skill to have
Thanks for this video gave me the courage to do it.
Just climbed the 20meter mast of my sailboat
I prefer to use a bachman for ascending ropes (crevasse self rescue practice mostly) because when your rope is wet/frozen and your hands are too, or you are wearing gloves, the big carabiners are really nice as handles to break the knot and move it up. Not to mention, it can be tied with only one free end in a pinch. I like a Texas prusik for my feet so I don't have to do a s#!+ ton of pistol squats the whole way up, takes a bit more prep though. Haha
Yeah, Bachman seems so natural as upper knot! I'm amazed at how short his upper knot (with his lengthy hands) and why the upper one is not Bachman.
what size is that cordage for the prusiks?
Why wouldn’t you have the foot loop prusik above the harness one like we do in caving frog systems?
Thanks, Trev! Awesome video!
We were out practising this at the local crag yesterday. Great instructions btw and all went well until I got to the top. I couldnt progress over the top with the body prussik. For all intents I beach whaled myself hauling on the static rope to get over. Not elegant. Is there a more savvy way to topout on prussiks?
For the clove hitch backup, do you leave it where it is as you ascend? Or do you take in the rope so it's relatively close to your body and you won't fall too far if both prusiks fail?
Do you have a demo of clearing the edge once you are at the top?
I like seeing content like this but it scares me that someone is going to go and try this while only following the video and not really knowing what they are doing.
Agreed. Practiced this with someone in the gym, and guy got stuck some meters up with his knots completely jammed. Took a while to get him down. Good thing it didn't happen outside though, so trying these things indoors is actually quite nice.
Very nice video. I am looking for this same type video and example such as this, yet a video to Show how to utilize this method without use of climbing gear( such as emergency situation and your without your actual climbing safety gear). Teach how to in emergency with no man made harnesses Only rope
I wish this video spent more time and went slower on the building/tying prusiks part. That's a much bigger concern for me than how to ascend.
I'm so early nobody has even complained about the use of the word "prusik"
you mean they call klemheist, bachman and prusik - prusiks?)) "well, what do you expect from savages" (c) anecdote
any reason to not use a longer sling or two slings for the foot loop so you could use both feet when pushing up to ascend?
You can definitely use a wider loop and use both feet, but most of the time you're climbing along a cliff, so it's useful to have a free leg to stand on the rocks where possible, or use the leg to lean against the cliff to stabilize yourself and/or prevent yourself from hitting the cliff.
What do you have the hanging rope anchored to?
I dunno. Most likely an anchor. They send guys up to free climb 10 feet and install a climbing bolt and an anchor. I guess you could get your buddy to do that or throw a grappling hook up there.
Needing to learn how to climb and descend on a rope solo. Is using a foot loop hard on the knees?
I have just discovered this technique (I'm new in caving). So, a prusik knot is used as an ascender?
He was tying an auto Block though for the first one unless names are interchangeable
Am I crazy or did he do the same knot for both but just misspoke and meant to do a different knot. The first knot he ties which he called “French Prusik” looks like what I know as a klemheist knot. Then he did the same thing for the other and said “klemheist knot”.
I see that the two are very similar looking. I bet he did do as he said.
"One eternity later"
It works well until I had to sit down a bit too hard. once the kleimheist got too much pressure on it it just refuses to come lose. It's like its welded to the rope. I eventually got it lose but it took about 20 minutes to do so.
Appreciate the diversity👍
Genau so gehe ich Bäume hoch
This is theeeeee most Hardcore of all ascending techniques...
Kids, dont try this at home!
Right. Most people just climb up the rope u just double hand it no feet no tie ins. You think im made of money? I cant afford rope harnesses and carabiners. Just do the dulfersitz rappel on the way down. boom.
Im just funning with you I dont even own rope bro..I own 1 rope. I use it to pull the chainsaws up. im like free solo in the arborist world.
hello from France I'm looking every of your video , I'm a climber addict and I was wondering how it could be possible to work with you kind regard
Is climbing a rope with a prusik aid?
No, it's not even climbing.
I would distinguish between ascending a rope and aid climbing. In aid climbing you start at the bottom of a wall with all of your equipment and you do basically whatever you need to do to get to the top of the wall from there. When ascending a rope, you already have equipment set up that you are using.
Ascending a rope can be part of aid climbing, e.g. you are belaying the aid leader and then you just ascend the rope to catch up or if you set a fixed line for abseiling to get supplies.
Er, no...
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everyone is better off watching Outdoor Research videos on these climbing tips, theyre much better made and explained. even better yet would be to get a guide to teach you
Are prusik all that safe? isn't it possible for the two small rope just lose their grip on the bigger rope and just slide down, and you with it?
Paul-François Bruno hence the clove hitch as a backup when you get far enough off the ground. Also the likelihood of both prussics slipping is quite low.
It is possible that the cords slip (addressed in the video) so that's why a kleimheist was used for the main load bearing and the French prusik was the foot loop. Kleimheist loads well in one direction and runs freer the other. A regular prusik can get tough to move after loading. Take care making sure you get stuff set before you put weight on the system
You're not wrong. But mechanical devices fail too. I, myself feel safer hanging from two nylon cords because when they fail they slip, so it's a gradual failure you can recover from. If a mechanical brake fails it's usually a much more sudden outcome. This is of course only my experience, and I have no problem using either.
I've never had one slip.
1:52 the first prussik is a kleimheist. A French prussik, the cord looped around the rope with both ends clipped to the carabiner
3 years later he finally made it to… what? What was that?… nope he’s still trying to make it to the top.
This is wrong. Your main prusik should be long as ur arm reach when u sif in harness. And u can use 2 "pedals" for both of legs. U can literally walk on rope.
I'm not a climber but did do a rescue course, and as you say, that is how we prusiked up a rope. One on each foot and the 3rd caribinerred to the chest harness. It was then very easy to "walk" up the rope as you say. We had a second rope in parallel as a safety
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I am suprised that black climbers exist :D
We exist, when we're not winning marathons we're secretly training for the day we shall take over climbing😎
How do you think black people from all over the world get stuff of high trees? Do you think some white person come get it for us? If you're thinking recreationally, then you might make sense.
@@ojos321 I mean climbing on rocks for pleasure..
This is cultural appropriation