Coming of Age in Belfast

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  • This is a rough transfer of a documentary I produced for WCVB-TV Boston in 1983. "Coming of Age in Belfast" focuses on young people in Ballymurphy, an area in Belfast, Northern Ireland, who have grown up during the Troubles. The reporter/co-writer is Mike Barnicle, editor Marcy Tankersley Scott, videographer John Grahame, sound recordist Jim Fripp, executive producer Charles Kravetz (full credits at end of video).

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  • @marymo75
    @marymo75 7 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I grew up in Springhill Avenue, it's like gold dust finding videos of the old place lol Thanks for sharing.

    • @SoEightiesItHurts
      @SoEightiesItHurts 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Speaking of Springhill Avenue, I'm a postman and I delivered the mail there for a while back in '87. My main memory of that street is that there was this guy living there who was a massive Neil Diamond fan and was always playing his records loud when I passed by every day.

    • @jasonsabourin9547
      @jasonsabourin9547 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@SoEightiesItHurts Wow, and nobody shot him?

    • @darthscouser5255
      @darthscouser5255 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jasonsabourin9547 - haha.... certainly would have been justified..... i think both sides would have shot him and bombed his record collection

    • @JohnMcMahon.
      @JohnMcMahon. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      SoEightiesItHurts The Neil Diamond fan was Joe Campbell, he was married to wee Jean Campbell.
      Joe is probably blasting Neil Diamond to this day, as far as I know he’s still alive and well.

    • @fishface20077002
      @fishface20077002 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jasonsabourin9547 Only when he started playing Sweet Caroline.

  • @muskrat477
    @muskrat477 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    One of the best documentaries I've watched about the troubles,Peter Taylor the BBC journalist made some very good ones too,he's been reporting on the troubles from the start.he recently went back and caught up with a lot of the players in that time period,amazingly a lot of their attitudes have changed

    • @RonBlau
      @RonBlau  ปีที่แล้ว

      If you’re in USA, where can you see Peter Taylor’s recent work?

    • @FRM101
      @FRM101 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RonBlauOn TH-cam, a channel named 'A Troubled Land', creator based out of Belfast.

  • @mariansaldo1
    @mariansaldo1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Excellent documentary. Sad to see a country ripped apart internally. Also sad we are so ignorant of what happens in the rest of the world here in the US. Knowledge of foreign affairs is the exception here not the norm. God bless Ireland.

  • @ezekielamaterasu3462
    @ezekielamaterasu3462 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    My Grandmother moved from Belfast out to Perth Western Australia in 68, she knew trouble was coming. My Great-Grandmother and uncle and aunts a few years later...

  • @TheHairyHound
    @TheHairyHound 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you Ron Blau for such a great piece of work.
    I grew up in Ballymurphy and went to school with Paul 'Pele' Millan. Listening to him speak in this documentary highlights for me just how far ahead he was/is than most at the time.
    Seen many other familiar faces too though sadly many have since passed away.

    • @RonBlau
      @RonBlau  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do you know what became of Paul? What's he doing now?

    • @RonBlau
      @RonBlau  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I remember that it was very moving to meet Paul and hear his story.

  • @johnnymac8680
    @johnnymac8680 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I gave an interview to Channel 5 News in Boston back in the summer of 1981 when I was based in Hyannis, Cape Cod. Watching the interview on tv they showed images of the streets of Belfast. I was astonished to see my next door neighbour being searched by Brits outside the Falls Library.

  • @JohnMcMahon.
    @JohnMcMahon. 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I remember watching this a long time ago, it's great to see it again.
    Thanks for posting.

  • @lamouchedelamurph1314
    @lamouchedelamurph1314 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Grew up in the "Murph", great, and sad, to see so many old familiar faces. Absolutely horrible place. What a tragedy

  • @leeann4900
    @leeann4900 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Just completed my maternal dna. I’m full of Ulster Scots, never knew we were, especially Ulster. Thank you, so very much, for your unbiased explanation. I completely see both sides, blessings to those whom’ve been lost ~ on both sides. I truly feel the passion, and ancestry of both!
    May our Lord, bless and keep them all, in the palm of His hands.

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Irish Americans/Scots Irish Americans are key peace process in Northern Ireland.

  • @johnnymac8680
    @johnnymac8680 6 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    My late mum is queueing up at the post office just after the 40th minute.

    • @brendanwalker4696
      @brendanwalker4696 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      God bless!

    • @darrenlowe3445
      @darrenlowe3445 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Johnny Mac
      May your mother Rest In Peace

    • @FoxtronX
      @FoxtronX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      may her soul rest in peace.

    • @scotty20040
      @scotty20040 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Johnny Mac ❤️❤️🤱🏼

    • @ianmangham4570
      @ianmangham4570 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome

  • @chrisjezovnik3308
    @chrisjezovnik3308 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm preparing to go on trip to Belfast next month. This was a great retrospective documentary. Thanks.

  • @markdowney969
    @markdowney969 7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    mate we had a copy of this sent over from America years ago but it was on vhs lol and we lost it I've been trying to get a copy of it for years but could find it any where is there a place were I can get a full copy I live near the top off the whiterock road west belfast,, I most say to you it's one of the best documentary,s I've ever seen about the troubles in Ireland

    • @RonBlau
      @RonBlau  7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I'm so glad you can see the documentary again, Mark. Working on this film, and spending five weeks with the people of Belfast (especially Ballymurphy) was one of the best projects I ever worked on.

  • @lastpostbugler
    @lastpostbugler 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    How refreshing to watch a documentary that was arguably accurate in its narrative to all sides of the Northern Irish divide. I must agree with the poster who stated that the " Idiot' shouting his mouth off at approx 27 mins in to the footage. would be better off just keeping hid mouth shut. Would be interested in knowing if any follow up was made . As, no doubt, things will have hopefully moved on since this documentary was made back in 1983

    • @RonBlau
      @RonBlau  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Unfortunately, there was no follow up. I wanted to return to Belfast in 2008 to see how things had changed, or not changed, 25 years after the original filming. But, for a number of reasons, it didn't work out.

    • @sfitzsimons980
      @sfitzsimons980 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fuck up😂😂😂

  • @belfastsoul8863
    @belfastsoul8863 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    40.16 some of the Halien mods sitting around the old fountain in the city centre,marty,Robert,Domenic and Joe , they were the days lol

    • @Page-Hendryx
      @Page-Hendryx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL I saw that. Also in the beginning of the clip there was the guy in the white jeans, desert boots and coat / tie?

    • @belfastsoul8863
      @belfastsoul8863 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Page-Hendryx Had a look there don't recognise the face!!

  • @dr.doppeldecker3832
    @dr.doppeldecker3832 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The harsher the environment, the sweeter the love.

  • @TrixieBoo
    @TrixieBoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I grew up on the Shankill Road until I was 29. Got myself and education and left. The mindset of people hasn't changed.

    • @saxglend9439
      @saxglend9439 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Roman Catholic Church is the root of all evil.

    • @fyivid
      @fyivid 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@saxglend9439 Shankill is protestant, numbnuts.

    • @saxglend9439
      @saxglend9439 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fyivid Catholics worship Saturn.

    • @mannygenetics374
      @mannygenetics374 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@saxglend9439 Saturn as in the planet??

    • @saxglend9439
      @saxglend9439 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mannygenetics374 Saturn's rings are part of the broadcasting system of the Matrix.

  • @Dannydantimpat
    @Dannydantimpat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    He said “ the rest of Great Britain “
    Great Britain = Scotland , Wales , England .
    North of /Northern Ireland isn’t included .
    When North of / Northern Ireland is included , it’s known as the UK .

    • @antonclark3420
      @antonclark3420 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not very United though :)

    • @itzskizzyk5472
      @itzskizzyk5472 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@antonclark3420 wasn't united to begin with anyway, it is english politicians with english laws tearing down neighbouring countries

    • @saxglend9439
      @saxglend9439 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@itzskizzyk5472 Lervish

  • @gerthie
    @gerthie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was up in Belfast this summer is was beautiful city and buzzing

    • @gerthie
      @gerthie 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @A Z central

  • @gerardmccavana4905
    @gerardmccavana4905 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I taught in Vere Foster PS in Moyard in the early 2000's....interesting to see footage of the area.

  • @Del-Canada
    @Del-Canada 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember all of this. I was constantly glued to the television or the radio keeping up on the latest. I wasn't anywhere near it tho.

  • @rubydawn1
    @rubydawn1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Love this documentary and it is so interesting to see comments from people that where there at this time.The Irish Catholic where forced into poverty by Injustice.Thinking for those who stayed they have survived so much.

    • @saxglend9439
      @saxglend9439 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Roman Catholic Church is the most evil organisation that has ever existed. It is a genocide cult.

    • @samwallace7313
      @samwallace7313 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rubydawn the Protestant working class lived in the same shit housing and poverty as the Catholics that's what people need to understand.

  • @Annie-jm1ox
    @Annie-jm1ox 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    September 2020. I live in Northern Ireland and its the best place to live.

  • @kevinlynch9438
    @kevinlynch9438 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "Do you know what ambition means?" Cheeky bastard ............ 😳

  • @mikki3562
    @mikki3562 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is a wrong narrative, it follows the usual false British narrative. The conflict was between the British and their proxy, unionist paramilitary death-squads and a section of the Irish nation trapped under British rule in a part of Ireland. Unionism is maintained by British political and economic power. It is a legacy of British colonialism, people who are descendants of British settlers and who never wished to assimilate into the rest of Ireland are not sovereign, and the only rights they should have are: the right to be equal citizens in an Irish Republic. This video suggests the conflict was between catholics and protestants, it wasn't. The conflict was a result of British army invasions of nationalist areas, thereby starting a military conflict, the continuing struggle against British rule in Ireland.

    • @paulduffy4585
      @paulduffy4585 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When a narrative is being repeated, day in, and day out, for 50 years, it takes a while to shake it off. The truth is also a particularly ugly one. And keep in mind that people are still trying to live under the same state, a state that relentlessly terrorized them for 30 odd years.

  • @murphm3144
    @murphm3144 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Born and Bred in Ballymurphy..I still live in it with my on family..
    Caught a glimpse of myself at the beginning of the video and aswell later on at the top of Divismore Crescent where I grew up

  • @JohnMcMahon.
    @JohnMcMahon. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    11:27, it looks like that wee girl is running into the house because the Brit is aiming his rifle in her direction but she’s not. I think she’s more shocked to see the camera pointing at her than a British Rifle.. That’s the truth.

  • @JohnMcMahon.
    @JohnMcMahon. 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    @19:18 he was shot in the head just off the Shankill road about 3-4 years after this was filmed..

    • @1916jamesconnolly
      @1916jamesconnolly 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He sealed his fate when he went into Andytown leisure centre with a handgun to take the tricolour down. Wanted all Catholics incinerated. Which is probably what's happening to him in hell at the moment.

    • @1916jamesconnolly
      @1916jamesconnolly 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well said John. I'm originally from St James just down from the Whiterock road so I'm thick as fuck not getting the Leisure centre right! Hope Seawright is burning in hell with Thatcher. Slainte.

    • @brendanwalker4696
      @brendanwalker4696 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      According to the International commission the Provo army council are running Stormont.
      What's Seawright running?
      Good riddance to the sectarian bastard, he came, he spouted, he got a hole in the head.

  • @greyline1012
    @greyline1012 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They built so many leisure centres in close proximity in catholic areas only during the troubles in the hope it would keep the kids off the streets. It never worked!

  • @shamrock4500
    @shamrock4500 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I spent a week there last summer, yes you can still feel the tension.

  • @EuropeanMedia
    @EuropeanMedia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great documentary

  • @FRM101
    @FRM101 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr. Blau,
    As other commentors have noted, Gerry Adams appears on screen (merely walking past) @ 2:58. Given Mike's narration landed solidly on the word 'Ballymurphy' just as Adams appeared, and given Adams' known personal connection to Ballymurphy (and his senior role within the wider Republican movement), I assumed an Adams interview segment was forthcoming However, as you already know, no such segment appears in the piece.
    In light of this, if you'll indulge me, I have a few brief questions:
    (1) Did the appearance of Adams occur by chance? Meaning were your cameramen in the proccess of capturing b-roll footage, and Adams happened to stroll by? And if so, at what point, if any, did the production team realize who they'd coincidentally captured (on film)?
    (2) Coincidental appearance or no, did you, Mike, or any of the team seek and/or conduct any on-screen interviews with Mr. Adams?
    (3) If yes, do you currently have access to the recording(s), and was the decision not to air it (assuming any such recordings exist) an artistic one given this piece's focus was the impact of conflict on unaffiliated young people; or was it the result of pressure (official or otherwise) brought to bear by authorities (on either side of the Atlantic), and/or your station management?
    *(as an aside, having watched Mike Barnicle during all those Hardball appearances, I summize that pressuring him to do something he did not want to do, would have had the opposite affect)
    (5) Were you, Mike, or any of the team advised by local contacts to seek Adams' approval for filming in an area in which he was more or less in command? If so, did you heed any such advice? And if so, was Adams' brief appearance, near the beginning, meant to communicate that approval to a specific, or general, audience?
    I thank you in advance for your time and answers, and of course for posting this piece.

    • @RonBlau
      @RonBlau  ปีที่แล้ว

      Dear F. Ryan -- Thanks for your thoughtful questions. I'll do my best to answer them (40 years after filming the doc).
      1+2) Total chance capturing the shot of Gerry Adams, at least on our part. Maybe he knew there would be a film crew in Ballymurphy, but we didn't know he'd be there. We certainly knew who he was but, if I remember right, he disappeared before we had a chance to talk with him him. In any case, we were attempting to do a portrait of what life was like for young people in Ballymurphy, not a political film, so we never tried to do a round of interviews with leaders on both sides of the conflict.
      3) There was no decision not to air this documentary; it was broadcast in Boston on WCVB-TV. The original tapes and, worse, the master broadcast tape, were reused or destroyed long ago. It wasn't for any policy reason. Sadly, the TV station that sent us to Belfast never thought of this as footage that should be archived.
      4) Yup, Mike is his own guy.
      5) We were in touch with the authorities in Belfast to let them know we would be filming, but there was no interference with our work. For two or three weeks before the crew arrived, I simply walked the streets of Belfast and talked to people, looking for a story that would fit the title "Coming of Age in Belfast" (which I kinda stole from Margaret Mead). There was no communication with Gerry Adams.
      I hope these notes answer your questions.

    • @FRM101
      @FRM101 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RonBlau I wasn't quite sure a response would be forthcoming given the upload is dated to six years ago, so I sincerely thank you for answering my questions, and so thoroughly at that. I found the footage fascinating, and worthy of preservation, thank you for posting it to the wider world.

  • @deanodog3667
    @deanodog3667 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Crazy times , grew up in NLR , didnt know any better lol !

  • @tm5267
    @tm5267 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    2:58 that Gerry Adams there?!
    Just curious for meself. Not expectin any of ye to tout

    • @RonBlau
      @RonBlau  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, Gerry Adams as he looked in 1983

    • @daic7274
      @daic7274 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good spotting

  • @mud-chan5485
    @mud-chan5485 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    May I know what song were played at the end? It's really beautiful. Greetings from Sarawak, Borneo.

    • @pat4961
      @pat4961 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Song is called, Our lads in Crumlin Jail

    • @mud-chan5485
      @mud-chan5485 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pat4961 thanks for the info 🙂

  • @freddietommie1904
    @freddietommie1904 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thank u

  • @joshclarke2800
    @joshclarke2800 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wtf my dads in this

  • @MakeLoveNotWar865
    @MakeLoveNotWar865 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    God bless Irish people. We love you from Palestine.
    The stolen land can't be a homeland

    • @brianwalsh5019
      @brianwalsh5019 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Greetings, my sisters just back from Jordan and visited the West Bank. She's a schoolteacher and i've never heard her swear. When she returned i asked her about the IDF. She raised one eyebrow and simply replied 'complete and utter bastards'.
      The British have a lot to answer for. Now they just hide behind the US.

    • @MakeLoveNotWar865
      @MakeLoveNotWar865 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Caroline Lees
      I still strongly believe 26+6 =1 🍀

    • @danielinnicg2114
      @danielinnicg2114 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      💚

    • @afreeeire8149
      @afreeeire8149 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kyle Robinson: if its not stolen and just a piece of land then give it up

  • @ScottAvellino1
    @ScottAvellino1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The opening song is wild mountain thyme correct?

  • @kevinmccarthy4794
    @kevinmccarthy4794 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    He mentions at the end that hope lies in the myth of the cycle of violence. Which is untrue. There is always a reason for violence as we all know today.

  • @TheMisterMonkeyman
    @TheMisterMonkeyman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:58 That sure looks like Gerry Adams to me. I know he's from Belfast, and I think he was from Ballymurphy as well. Nice Doc, interesting angle on the situation. Thanks for posting. Peace.

    • @strictlycasual765
      @strictlycasual765 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      TheMisterMonkeyman it is Gerry Adams, that’s probably why it looks like him

  • @speakertreatz
    @speakertreatz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great documentary Ron

  • @thunder_heads
    @thunder_heads 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My dad grew up on the falls road

  • @billlyspencer3118
    @billlyspencer3118 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Give Ireland back to the Irish people!! We Brits used force to gain it and the natives are fighting back!!!

  • @pauldunneska
    @pauldunneska 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Very interesting documentary of Belfast in 1983,full of Skinheads the working class fashion of the time.

  • @adamgardiner5869
    @adamgardiner5869 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The cigar chomping American presenter was cool. Great doco.

  • @denniscole173
    @denniscole173 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My grandfather was a Catholic living on the shankill married to my grandmother. He was originally from Donegal and his sister's I think ended up living on the falls road. Sad that sectarianism on both sides split families.

  • @Eochaidh32
    @Eochaidh32 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jesus Christ!! First words from Barnicle were the bullshit of Catholic/Protestant/British Peacekeeping. I am an American whose father and three grandparents were from North Belfast (New Lodge/Dock Ward). I have spent a lot of time in Belfast, including staying in Ballymurphy and the Falls. How a correspondent could spend one day in Belfast and not fucking notice the anti-Irish intent of the British Army and the Loyalists in unison is beyond me. Belfast is a British Occupied area and the Army was there to protect its land and its Loyalist citizens. "Ireland unfree shall never be at peace", (Padraig Pearse). My God the ignorance of some people.

    • @samwallace7313
      @samwallace7313 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You havnt a fucking clue.

  • @caleb4790
    @caleb4790 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Northern Ireland is under English rule? Never was it’s part of the UK by democracy

    • @JohnMcMahon.
      @JohnMcMahon. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Caleb Emerson So if a United Ireland is decided upon through democratic means, would you accept that without question?

  • @randalpmcmurphy1340
    @randalpmcmurphy1340 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Young lad in a tonic suit at 6.15 :D

  • @binflynn1
    @binflynn1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the way American journalists haven’t got a clue about Belfast

  • @dccoulthard
    @dccoulthard 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is that Mike Barnicle?

    • @RonBlau
      @RonBlau  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, it is.

  • @humann5682
    @humann5682 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so random but the thumbnail the ginger lass looks like Molly C Quinn ("Alexis") from Castle!

  • @laurallama73
    @laurallama73 ปีที่แล้ว

    2022 Where are they now, I wonder.

    • @RonBlau
      @RonBlau  ปีที่แล้ว

      I haven't kept track much since 1983, and the young people who were 20 then would be almost 60 now.

  • @MakeLoveNotWar865
    @MakeLoveNotWar865 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Just a copy of Palestinians struggle. Irish are very nice and brave people.

    • @samwallace7313
      @samwallace7313 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just shows you know absolutely nothing about either place.

  • @buskingkarma2503
    @buskingkarma2503 ปีที่แล้ว

    31:15 👀 it's Sid Vicious!

  • @DavideM1996
    @DavideM1996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    11:27 nice my dude lol

  • @gailday7636
    @gailday7636 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ❤😂❤

  • @noodlyappendage6729
    @noodlyappendage6729 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not a bad documentary however he said London when he should have said Westminster and he said England when he should have said the UK.

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Westminster in London's England rules Ireland UK is just make Northern Irish Unionists Scottish Unionists and Welsh Unionists happy.

  • @aoifexx5385
    @aoifexx5385 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    3:07 🇮🇪💯

  • @stephenm8898
    @stephenm8898 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5.50 all dressed up and no place to go

  • @christinedowie2859
    @christinedowie2859 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can take the girl out of Belfast but never Belfast out of the girl.

  • @paulkennedy667
    @paulkennedy667 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The real enemy is bigotry...fair employment is the solution. Economic prosperity brings about peace.

    • @itzskizzyk5472
      @itzskizzyk5472 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      no it is not. employment was not the issue

  • @paulduffy4585
    @paulduffy4585 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why stay? A question that can really only be answered by those who didn't stay, and who live every day of their lives homesick for their own people.

  • @gremlinuk1968
    @gremlinuk1968 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    have family , both,,!! so fucking wise up,,!!! & love the 12th!! both,,!!

  • @edwardpepper151
    @edwardpepper151 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a terrible beauty Ireland!what a beautiful people God protect and help the brave Catholic Irish

  • @jasonsabourin9547
    @jasonsabourin9547 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could be wrong, but isn't this the same Mike Barnicle that's the bigtime plagiarist?

  • @steadyeddie7
    @steadyeddie7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The reason you didn't see any men in the house, they were all out doin the double!

  • @freddietommie1904
    @freddietommie1904 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    what was it like working with barnicle?

    • @RonBlau
      @RonBlau  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      As with many talented people, it wasn't all easy. But he's a gifted writer. I would set down a first draft of narration, and when he rewrote and punched up the prose, it had a lot more impact.

  • @celtictillidie7969
    @celtictillidie7969 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2-58 is that Gerry Adams

    • @RonBlau
      @RonBlau  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, that's Gerry Adams walking in Ballymurphy at 2:58

    • @aviationiceman9549
      @aviationiceman9549 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Celtic till I die oh look, just so happens that Gerry is there just as an American film crew is making a documentary, just like when he accidentally bumped into Clinton 🤷‍♂️

  • @silvasun5326
    @silvasun5326 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There’s something heart warming seeing teenagers throwing bricks at cops and soldiers.

  • @markandaimeelou
    @markandaimeelou 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why did UN peacekeepers not go in?

  • @jimd.r.1211
    @jimd.r.1211 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    August, 9th.... 2020. Soon

  • @mickiyelly1960
    @mickiyelly1960 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very depressing!

  • @Oldsoho
    @Oldsoho 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    All they ever had to do was refuse National assistance payments. Giveup their paid for council houses and reside in the river Lagan. The world owes these people a living does it not?

  • @raed54843
    @raed54843 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    GOD DAMN BRITISH ,,,

  • @gremlinuk1968
    @gremlinuk1968 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    83,, this,, i was a 15,then,

    • @RonBlau
      @RonBlau  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hate to admit it, but we were all a bit younger in 1983.

    • @LeahCatherine-z8h
      @LeahCatherine-z8h 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel so young now, I was only 2. 🤣

  • @stephenwhyte852
    @stephenwhyte852 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Up the provos 1916x1888 26x6=1

  • @grandsonofsamnifdy4266
    @grandsonofsamnifdy4266 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They poor weans are carved out of granite. Tough , funny and deadly to each other.

  • @liammellows-hz3pf
    @liammellows-hz3pf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ballymurphy abú.

  • @1969JohnnyM
    @1969JohnnyM 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The police can go into Highfield because there from there and areas like it and its there they recruited and got their support from, this was not a police force of both communities, it was the police force of a sectarian state. Its like saying in America before the end of segregation racist opponents of civil rights felt safer and more at home in the Conservative ex Confederate Southern States than they do in the pro Civil Rights ex Union supporting Northern States.

  • @kennrobson2738
    @kennrobson2738 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Loyalist prisoner in for robbing a catholic. In for loyalist crimes lol

  • @BrianJohnSpencer
    @BrianJohnSpencer 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great work Ron. But just out of interest, why does the documentary only look at things from a republican perspective?

    • @RonBlau
      @RonBlau  6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Hi Brian -- Just focusing on Ballymurphy -- with a few side trips and some archival footage -- was a decision we made because we didn't want to produce one of those on-the-one-hand-the-Catholics-say-this-and-on-the-other-hand-the-Protestants-say-that "balanced" TV documentaries. We weren't taking sides in the conflict (which as a Boston TV station we had no right nor interest in doing), but we wanted viewers to be able to feel what it was like to be a young person growing up in one part of Belfast. As you know, you can't get much of an emotional connection or feeling for things and people if you go back and forth, following every point with a counter-point.

    • @isaachovet
      @isaachovet 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RonBlau Thank you for your work.

  • @apathyintheuk265
    @apathyintheuk265 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    17:23 Fucking awful shot - regardless of religion.

  • @stephanblack4558
    @stephanblack4558 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do they say Cat-lick and not Catholic.

    • @JohnMcMahon.
      @JohnMcMahon. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s not Cat-lick, it’s Cafflick. 😉

  • @thegreyman7449
    @thegreyman7449 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The narrator sounds like Kermit the frog

  • @sewing2165
    @sewing2165 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is not well researched. The American narrating seems uninformed.

    • @RonBlau
      @RonBlau  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What, specifically, seems missing from the narrative, given that there's no way to say everything there is to say about The Troubles within the constraints of a less-than-one-hour television documentary? Because of this limitation, "Coming of Age in Belfast" chose to focus on one small area of Belfast, with some news footage added to give context.

    • @JohnMcMahon.
      @JohnMcMahon. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ron Blau S Ewing doesn’t like the truth.. It’s a Loyalist thing. It’s like the good old Israeli mentality.

  • @naomikelly6151
    @naomikelly6151 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    go and be loyal in England 🇮🇪

  • @davidmcbride4501
    @davidmcbride4501 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    UP THE WEE HIGHFIELD

  • @jumpons1
    @jumpons1 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    p

  • @thewesties8725
    @thewesties8725 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    NO SURRENDER!

  • @charlieindigo
    @charlieindigo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was documentary produced in 183/4 by an American for the American public, presumably to show life in a downtrodden Belfast Catholic community. Like all reportage from before, during and subsequent to that period, it is admittedly unashamedly one-sided, because its focus is on a single community. He interviews young children and adolescents about their views on "The Troubles," and asks about their thoughts and aspirations. Just like all the other documentaries in similar vein, the reporter wallows in the sob stories and the degree of hate for the British (who he insists on calling "English"). That will certainly give rise to American anti-British feelings! Throughout, he refers entirely to Catholics versus Protestants, never once did he use the terms Nationalist, Republican or even Loyalist. In fairness, he did once mention the poorer Protestants from Highfield, but the whole emphasis was given in such a way as to show that one community was better-off than the other.
    I was born in a very mixed community not far from Belfast, and during the late 60's to mid-70's lived in the city during the early years of sectarian strife. Unfortunately, all the documentaries I've seen have been heavily biased, with the right questions avoided. For instance, when we see the crowds of children - yes, children - from six or seven years of age up to adolescents and young men and women in their twenties, all throwing stones and petrol bombs at the police and army, it begs the question "Why?" These youngsters weren't born hating anyone, so they must have been told to hate the British by their parents. In the working-class communities where I lived and worked there was little animosity between the religions, and everyone got on well together. It was however more than obvious that the majority of Catholics had very poor education, and one must wonder why that should be so; after all, the schools were segragated by Catholic choice, so what was being taught in Catholic schools that kept their education at such low level? Having said that, many thousands of Catholics did an honest day's work for their pay and mixed with their Protestant neighbours quite happily. I was several times forced into unemployment, and the "dole" I got was around Ten Shillings a week - not enough to feed a dog, never mind my rent and other living expenses. It was hard, I survived, and eventually got work, even if it was menial. My education was OK and little more, but I rarely ever got turned-down when attending a work interview, probably because I was raised in a decent family who cared about what I needed in life. The reporter showed us queues of unemployed waiting for these hate-filled Catholics who wanted nothing to do with the British, but were happy enough to take British money! So the next question is this: Of all the youngsters he questioned, how many of them do you imagine any employer would take on? They hate the British, would have no problem in killing Protestants, and....most of them could barely string a sentence together. Not one of them would stand a chance with a Catholic or Protestant employer, and with the majority of them having criminal records, is it any wonder? They spend their lives in wasteful bliss, and beilieve that baiting the police and army is "great fun" according to one of them. It's quite obvious that their mis-spent youth is promoted and encouraged by their parents and teachers who foster the elements of hate rather than teach decency and respect.
    So while the focus has been on religious differences, in reality the heart of the matter was in the differences between Republican terrorists and the rest of the decent, educated and well-minded people who became the target; the IRA intimidated their own communities, forcing them to assist their political and paramilitary ends, because in the end analysis, the IRA bombed, killed, maimed, injured, tarred-and-feathered and knee-capped their own people just as mercilessly as they did with the police and army. They had a propaganda machine that was the envy of the entire terrorist world - a machine that continues to this day. Of course, the Americans were fooled by it all, and couldn't get to their banks quick enough to fund the poor Catholics. The truth is that although there were elements - perhaps even a policy in some quarters - of discrimination (similar to the racial discrimination practiced in the USA), "The Troubles" was never about religion; that was brought in as an excuse, along with the Civil Rights Movement, to force the British out of a land where they brought education and employment to the whole of Ireland over a period of three hundred years.
    But here's a thing worth thinking about: Britain has the distinction of having had the greatest empire the world has ever seen, an empire that is now long gone. So isn't it odd that all of those former Colonies, Dependancies and Protectorates have remained part of the British Commonwealth, and were more than eager to have their young men fight for us during two world wars, and that includes thousands of Irishmen - North and South - who put aside any differences and freely gave their young men when it was needed. That's more than the Americans did until they were "forced" into giving their help. Somewhere in that story, Britain must have done something right, for we still have our Commonwealth despite being accused of treating them badly. The only fly in the ointment is from a hard-core group of Irishmen who hate the British so much that they will destroy even their own to get what they want.
    Sadly, these reporters and interviewers are only out to pander to a public eager to find fault. It's only a few years ago now, that the bombing during the Boston Marathon took place; it hit the world headlines and great sympathy was pronounced from every world leader. Yet it was the people of Boston who criticised the British in Northern ireland and began (if they hadn't already done it) to fund the IRA in its bid to rid Northern Ireland of the British. It seems they also forgot how they almost wiped out the indigenous population of their own country! Funny how the phrase "People in glass houses....) springs to mind!
    So for all you viewers of this so-called "unbiased" documentary, I can tell you that it is yet another false picture of the NI situation. I'm not denying for one moment that the hatred is not one-sided; history has shown - for those who want to know the truths - that there were many atrocities from both sides of the community, but it never came from the many thousands of decent folk of all communities who knew better. Like the Midlands, Lancashire and South Wales communities amongst others, Northern ireland was a powerhouse for those who wanted to work. It had the biggest ship-building industry in the world, the finest flax & linen industries in the world, the biggest and finest ropeworks, a huge aircraft industry, some of the greatest writers, scientists and military leaders, and.... oh yes, produced no less than 11 American Presidents. Thanks in part to the current economic crisis, but no more than to terrorist involvement, all of it has gone; after all, who wants a busines in a country where half of the population are bordering on illiteracy, and of them, a sizeable number prefer to let their hate for the rest stand in the way of progress? As long as they can collect their dole they're happy to continue their reign of self-indulgent, self-righteous, criminal behaviour, and blame it all on everyone else.

    • @jasonsabourin9547
      @jasonsabourin9547 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Happy to take the money" they had no choice! Britain was running the show! And it was A fixed game, you take the cards you were dealt, or die. You seem like an honest, decent guy, but yet I think you suffer from the same thing Catholics do, your standards and your emotions are completely ingrained in you. I think only the future generations can distance the people from the animosity.

    • @jasonsabourin9547
      @jasonsabourin9547 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Are you in the Ku Klux Klan?
      The reason I ask you this is because your mentality is the same as A white supremacist, and believe me I'm not A card carrying liberal. I've met and been around some clan men, and your speech was right out of their ignorant, self righteous, arm-chair warrior bullshit mouths. Anyway remember this it's easier to blame others in front of your pint than it is to get up and do something about it, but then again you already know that. Massir.

    • @charlieindigo
      @charlieindigo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jasonsabourin9547 First you seem to think that I'm an honest, decent guy, and in the next breath I'm a White Supremacist. I'm guessing that you don't live in the UK, because you obviously have never experienced life in Northern Ireland, and know absolutely nothing about the situation as it was - and to a degree remains. You know nothing about the politics, but you certainly know how to sound off. I lived through it, worked through it along with my Catholic and Protestant friends, and we all saw what you call "The fixed game", only the fixed game came from the bitter Republican side. The vast majority of Catholics and Protestans lived, worked and socialised quite happily together. Social deprivation affected elements in both communities, with poor housing and low incomes. Biased reporting by the media ran rampant during that time, and still does, and people ignorant of the situation - people like yourself - lapped it all up. Outsiders always like to point the finger, and then you have the nerve to refer to me as an "ignorant, self-righteous, armchair warrior." However, you are entitled to your own opinion, even if it it is way off-base and ill-informed.

    • @jasonsabourin9547
      @jasonsabourin9547 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@charlieindigo yes, I had to stop and comment mid way through one of your comments.

    • @jasonsabourin9547
      @jasonsabourin9547 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@charlieindigo I know you, I tried, go ahead, knock yourself out, your wasting what little time you have left, I can't stand millenials, but it's pretty nuch theirs now.

  • @deborahwingard776
    @deborahwingard776 ปีที่แล้ว

    Birth Control!

  • @lax02010
    @lax02010 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The guy at 40:20 selling stuff sounds like a character. “Ye don’t have to be a millionaire to live like one, 3 peach for 35 pence.”
    Also, as someone who lived in Boston for a time, it was slightly amusing to hear how thick Mike Barnicle’s accent is. “Barbed wiyeh, areyurs, naybahood.”

  • @FoxtronX
    @FoxtronX 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i wonder why is ireland supporting israel today, they are doing the same to palestine what brits did to irish.

    • @JohnMcMahon.
      @JohnMcMahon. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      In what way is Ireland supporting Israel ?

  • @staymellow91
    @staymellow91 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    punkers

  • @caleb4790
    @caleb4790 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is such a bias video

  • @paulcarolan8646
    @paulcarolan8646 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    And now brexit☺😈

    • @RonBlau
      @RonBlau  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What are they going to do about the border?

    • @denieerham5873
      @denieerham5873 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@RonBlau if hard brexit ever to happens that would mean the brits will fall under WTO. which mean hard borders need to be erected once again like it was before to controll goods coming in and out . and i think i don't need to tell you what would happen if a hard borders ever to be erected once again.

    • @RobertK1993
      @RobertK1993 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RonBlau Northern Ireland Protocol

    • @RonBlau
      @RonBlau  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RobertK1993 Brexit and the Northern Ireland Protocol certainly don't make the border situation easy. Complications re the Protocol have been in the news again today.

  • @maga8307
    @maga8307 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Thankfully after living through the troubles im happy there is peace. I remember as a 11yr old crawling under my bed and scresming for fear of getting shot. I first lived in new barnsley park where i was born. But we were put out. Then I lived off the shankill road during those dark of the 70s . Most children back then suffered just as the adults sufferered. Ive been diagnosed with PTSD as im sure most ppl have living through the troubles. Im just happy that there is a good future for our grandchildren as i would not wish this on them. But apart from the troubles its good to look back .

    • @samgraham1936
      @samgraham1936 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My family lived new Barnsley and we moved to the woodvale i dont remember any of it but my older family members talk about it sometimes about leaving in the early hours of the morning. Thank god for the peace were having now .Long may it last .god bless u mate

    • @truthseeker444
      @truthseeker444 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, I think this whole country has some level of PTSD, how could we not, what we lived with as our normal, was anything but. They say there was no winners, the winners were the people who survived it, and the losers were the people who did not.

    • @captainchaos3053
      @captainchaos3053 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've never heard such snivelling.

    • @samwallace7313
      @samwallace7313 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@captainchaos3053where did you live.

    • @jackietreehorn5561
      @jackietreehorn5561 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@samwallace7313he's a dickhead in an ivory tower with no frame of reference

  • @galshaine2018
    @galshaine2018 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    And in 2020... Belfast is quiet. America burning.

    • @niamhmcgovern3293
      @niamhmcgovern3293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Don’t make this about America

    • @Alyssa-kc7vi
      @Alyssa-kc7vi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@niamhmcgovern3293 the commentator is american and keeps referring to america and how it is there compared to belfast back then lol.

    • @stndmnky8556
      @stndmnky8556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Travers no one is with these lockdowns

    • @jenniferfarrelly5797
      @jenniferfarrelly5797 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Alyssa-kc7vi o⁹09I00II9I000I00I09000II099I090II90I00900I09I00I0II00I09IU0I99I0900I00000I90099000I0II0I0I099I999000I9I0I9II0I0I900I09I0A0I0I00I00I000000I00I9909I09000

  • @heathermarsh3425
    @heathermarsh3425 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I was 8 when my daddy came in to say to my mum its started & in my little child like mind thought the end of the world was happening, i was very frightened & anxieties have stayed with me ever since!