What a great way to start my week. Also, and don't take this the wrong way, but it was cool Ben and Dan didn't talk much this week! By which I mean they just asked Jonno some questions and let him talk rather than try to interject themselves into the interview unnecessarily. Always love hearing Jonno chat rugby, gives a real sense of enjoyment alongside an obvious depth of knowledge and experience.
What a lineup of guests so far!! Was brilliant hearing Johnno speak, great hosting to feed the topic and let him go. Now off to watch that Lions doc again...
This will be good. Corne Krige once said there were only 3 players he was very wary of on a rugby field. Bakkies, Bismark and Martin Johnson. Said MJ was mean as cat shit and seemed to enjoy get smashed and just gave it back harder. Legend
Johnno will always go down as one of the all-time greats of rugby union. Lesser known fact: he went down to NZ as a young man for a season and played for the Junior ABs vs Australia (opp John Eales). The rock around which sides were built.
MJ should go on Mastermind with specialist subject Lions Tours. Encyclopedic knowledge of fixtures, years, scores, half time scores, names of players. Amazing. Not to mention so many great stories. Awesome.
And everyone always thinks it’s progress as we go on through time. Those wonderful memories back from the 70’s through to the 90’s seem to be just what rugby should always be about at its best. I met with Andy Ripley on holiday a long time back, and he told me some wonderful events which a mere club player could only ever dream about, back then. What is in the dream now? Ice baths and loads of money with the threat of redundancy looming in the background. No one can dream of playing at ‘Twickenham’ any more. Obviously historic moments will continue, but will it ever be the same? I recall watching the Lions under the leadership of the New Zealand coach, and it was obvious that they were exhausted before the starting whistle. At that time they had enough individual skills to have played the opposition off the field without being over trained. I saw it at the time as a plot against the Northern Hemisphere.
From springboks fan, the best EUROPEAN not just English, captain of all time. I recall losing 53-3 at twickenham before the World Cup thinking that “we actually just can’t compete”. We were utterly smoked. While it sounds really arrogant now (I was maybe 12 at the time - forgive me) , the whistle blew and I thought “they really could win this” because Unless I’m mistaken, it was publicly stated a year or two before that that was the plan. The big one. England. I just will never forget how inevitable it felt by the time it happened, and how all the tri-nations teams were going to end the dream surely. NEVER HAPPENED. Also, that was not a European World Cup, it was Australia right? I would say that it may be the most impressive World Cup campaign. (1995 is a bit difficult for me to be objective about, South African) they’re all different though I suppose and none should be downplayed. But something about just knowing that if you want to win it all, how do you beat England? And not having the answer… 2019 and 2023 when the boks beat England. I knew somehow that they would. My friend kept telling people not to worry because it’s not the wilko Johnson team. Which doesn’t really make sense as a reason why we’ll beat England, but that’s just some anecdotal evidence to support what I’m saying. We don’t ever have a fixture against England where South African fans don’t bring up the 03 team in some way. That team to me is easily the best English rugby team. You can lose any match but I’ve never felt more helpless than that 53-3 game. Springboks have good and bad eras. It’s part of the game. But only two losses felt truly embarrassing to me. The all blacks game right before rassie took over. AND BLOODY JOHNSONS ROSES. The game misses you sir. I’m subscribing no doubt thanks for the content fellas. I really enjoyed this
@@paulmulryne8405oh goody Bok fans telling each other how much tougher the Boks were than Johnsons England pack 😂😂 Maybe next time you can expand on your theory that tougness of forwards is mainly geographical based around South Africa . Am sure if you it you repeat it often enough you can convince other Bok fans .
Welshman here. Johno is rugbys version of Roy Keane. Just a natural born leader. Hated him for England as we always got a tuning apart from 99 lol upmost respect for Johno
Love Jonno, had a captain just like that. Playing against the Royal Marines ina 7s plate final. Up by 1 point, defending the line and the ref calls the captains for a last warning for us. Our skipper, "how long left Sir?". Ref "last play". Our skipper pushed the opposition skipper, 14 man melee ensues, Ref, "Fuck it, that'll do", blows the final whistle. Plate final winners! Best skipper shithousery ever!😂😂
was lucky enough to have got to chat John Robbins about the 1955 Lions tour whilst I was at Cardiff Uni in the early 90's - what have we lost with the game becoming professional and so structured chasing wins instead of corinthian joyous expression?
It’s shame what Covid took away from the Lions tour in SA 2021 It will add even more value come 2032 cos it will probably be the first Lions series in 24 years with fans It’s going to be 💥 special
True, but we have had our fair share of Lions and particularly the 97 tour. Tom Smith (RIP) effing up the Boks scrum is up there or perhaps above Daws missed pass.
What a great way to start my week.
Also, and don't take this the wrong way, but it was cool Ben and Dan didn't talk much this week! By which I mean they just asked Jonno some questions and let him talk rather than try to interject themselves into the interview unnecessarily.
Always love hearing Jonno chat rugby, gives a real sense of enjoyment alongside an obvious depth of knowledge and experience.
I’m sure they tried to talk!
Love the Pod men.. as an Irish man never thought I'd enjoy listening to Johnson so much 😅
Cracking player,great leader!Goat of English rugby, in the top 10 of rugby legends and for good reason!👌👍💪🇬🇧🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
What a lineup of guests so far!! Was brilliant hearing Johnno speak, great hosting to feed the topic and let him go. Now off to watch that Lions doc again...
Down to earth chap actually. Always respectful of rugby's past and worked hard.
Johnson is so generous to others. And brilliant story teller
Awesome warrior. Humble, kind, a natural born gentleman.
What a gentleman, absolute respect and regards for Jonno, such an aspirational leader.
I wish this podcast could have been three hours. Just found this, subscribed, absolutely brilliant. Thank you
Most relaxed and open Jonno I have watched. Credit to you guys I guess for setting the tone.
What a great episode! well done lads, fantastic to hear Jonno talk and how the times changed with different tours. Legend.
What an absolute legend.. And probably the first time I've ever seen him smile! 😂😂
What a fantastic episode!
Please get Jonno back in again. He has such a balanced view on subjects it's great to hear what he has to say on things.
This is an incredible episode; well done fellas
Jonno is an absolute legend. What an incredible guest!
Best English player in the last 25 years,period!👌💯👍💪💪💪🇬🇧🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
Shame he didn’t stay on the dark side, might have helped us win another World Cup or two. Tremendous player, great man. The Colin Meads of England.
A brilliant podcast, Thank you. A great honest description of how the sport/rugby has changed over the years.
This will be good.
Corne Krige once said there were only 3 players he was very wary of on a rugby field.
Bakkies, Bismark and Martin Johnson. Said MJ was mean as cat shit and seemed to enjoy get smashed and just gave it back harder.
Legend
Johnno will always go down as one of the all-time greats of rugby union. Lesser known fact: he went down to NZ as a young man for a season and played for the Junior ABs vs Australia (opp John Eales). The rock around which sides were built.
MJ should go on Mastermind with specialist subject Lions Tours. Encyclopedic knowledge of fixtures, years, scores, half time scores, names of players. Amazing. Not to mention so many great stories. Awesome.
I’ve never seen Martin so animated. Wow! What an insight. I really enjoyed the content.
I played a couple of games with Martin when he played for Tihoi a country club in Rural NZ King County Comp 1990
You can tell Johnno does a lot of speaking gigs. haha
Great episode, again.
And everyone always thinks it’s progress as we go on through time.
Those wonderful memories back from the 70’s through to the 90’s seem to be just what rugby should always be about at its best.
I met with Andy Ripley on holiday a long time back, and he told me some wonderful events which a mere club player could only ever dream about, back then.
What is in the dream now? Ice baths and loads of money with the threat of redundancy looming in the background.
No one can dream of playing at ‘Twickenham’ any more.
Obviously historic moments will continue, but will it ever be the same?
I recall watching the Lions under the leadership of the New Zealand coach, and it was obvious that they were exhausted before the starting whistle. At that time they had enough individual skills to have played the opposition off the field without being over trained.
I saw it at the time as a plot against the Northern Hemisphere.
From springboks fan, the best EUROPEAN not just English, captain of all time. I recall losing 53-3 at twickenham before the World Cup thinking that “we actually just can’t compete”. We were utterly smoked. While it sounds really arrogant now (I was maybe 12 at the time - forgive me) , the whistle blew and I thought “they really could win this” because Unless I’m mistaken, it was publicly stated a year or two before that that was the plan. The big one. England. I just will never forget how inevitable it felt by the time it happened, and how all the tri-nations teams were going to end the dream surely.
NEVER HAPPENED.
Also, that was not a European World Cup, it was Australia right?
I would say that it may be the most impressive World Cup campaign. (1995 is a bit difficult for me to be objective about, South African) they’re all different though I suppose and none should be downplayed. But something about just knowing that if you want to win it all, how do you beat England? And not having the answer…
2019 and 2023 when the boks beat England. I knew somehow that they would.
My friend kept telling people not to worry because it’s not the wilko Johnson team. Which doesn’t really make sense as a reason why we’ll beat England, but that’s just some anecdotal evidence to support what I’m saying. We don’t ever have a fixture against England where South African fans don’t bring up the 03 team in some way.
That team to me is easily the best English rugby team. You can lose any match but I’ve never felt more helpless than that 53-3 game.
Springboks have good and bad eras. It’s part of the game. But only two losses felt truly embarrassing to me.
The all blacks game right before rassie took over. AND BLOODY JOHNSONS ROSES.
The game misses you sir.
I’m subscribing no doubt thanks for the content fellas. I really enjoyed this
Probably one of only a handful of English forwards who was hard enough to be a Springbok. We don't have enough of his sort.
@@paulmulryne8405oh goody Bok fans telling each other how much tougher the Boks were than Johnsons England pack 😂😂 Maybe next time you can expand on your theory that tougness of forwards is mainly geographical based around South Africa . Am sure if you it you repeat it often enough you can convince other Bok fans .
@@patrickchilds2987 I'm an England fan 🤣 when was the last time you saw our pack dominate theirs?
Great guy. What a player.
Got the excitement going for this next lions tour can’t wait
Welshman here. Johno is rugbys version of Roy Keane. Just a natural born leader. Hated him for England as we always got a tuning apart from 99 lol upmost respect for Johno
Well said mate. I’m an Englishman who still has nightmares about Wales in the 70s😂 Ya always gave us a drubbing (bar occasionally at Twickenham)
That was brilliant, so glad I watched this.
Love Jonno, had a captain just like that. Playing against the Royal Marines ina 7s plate final. Up by 1 point, defending the line and the ref calls the captains for a last warning for us. Our skipper, "how long left Sir?". Ref "last play". Our skipper pushed the opposition skipper, 14 man melee ensues, Ref, "Fuck it, that'll do", blows the final whistle. Plate final winners! Best skipper shithousery ever!😂😂
Fantastic player. Old school, hard man, and a great of the game. From a Welshman.
was lucky enough to have got to chat John Robbins about the 1955 Lions tour whilst I was at Cardiff Uni in the early 90's - what have we lost with the game becoming professional and so structured chasing wins instead of corinthian joyous expression?
Excellent show. Great craic. Subbed 🏴☠☘
89 tour was on live - I remember setting the VCR to get it 😅😅😅
Same as 93. I remember falling asleep on the sofa and missing all but 5 minutes of the first test.
What a class guest.
It’s shame what Covid took away from the Lions tour in SA 2021
It will add even more value come 2032 cos it will probably be the first Lions series in 24 years with fans
It’s going to be 💥 special
Jonno looks really well & spoke very fondly of the past. Nice guy
I could listen to Jonno speak all day. Just great.
After watching this, I reckon he could talk all day, too.
It's so annoying that I'm loving watching three Tigers legends chat (being a Saints fan!)😊 Great Ep. Could have gone another 3hrs
True, but we have had our fair share of Lions and particularly the 97 tour. Tom Smith (RIP) effing up the Boks scrum is up there or perhaps above Daws missed pass.
What a leader, as a player. I'm Irish upmost respect for MJ
He didn't show the uTmost respect when he walked Eng out on Croke Park. Quite the opposite actually.
@@PB22559 he won the game before it started, all part of the game!
Brilliant !!!!
When johho speaks, you listen
Great lad and good content boys
Are you getting paid for this??? Jonno did it all himself lol. 😂
Great pod great guest. You guys are smashing this pod casting malarkey.
What a man, rugby royalty
What an episode!
Third team is where it’s at 😎
3 top blokes…All Tigers
Jonno at his most relaxed legend
Prison show was brilliant
Where are the quickfire questions though?! Want to know who his rugby idols were growing up!
Someone tell Johnson its the British AND IRISH lions ffs..
I don’t believe it. A scrum half who was kept quiet. Has that ever happened before?
Harborough boys
I'd always thought Johnson was a taciturn bloke. He talks non-stop here. I wonder how much his fee is for being on a podcast like this?
Somewhat lacking in presentation skills boyz.give this a miss😮
Try listening, it gives a chance to learn.
Maybe try opening your ears.
Stick to cartoons if you aren't interested in rugby
What a nice man, giant of rugby.