It's worth remembering that in 2013 Gatland wasn't afraid to pick 10+ Wales players in a 15. I think there are certain positions it's very hard to see Farrell going away from Irish players. 9 is one, 15 is another. I think at least one of the centres will probably be Irish and at least 4 of the pack (probably 5 or 6) will be Irish.
I wouldn't be surprised if Ireland provide the largest number of players however Andy Farrell also knows a lot of England playets . He will be taking advice from the other coaches on the tour . I wouldn't be surprised to see more Scottish players touring with a smattering of Welsh.
Gatland also had no problem bringing in talentless welsh players who happened to be on holidays nearby and then didn't even give them a run. I wish Gatland and the entire welsh side was selected again to finish the job of killing the lions that he started
Lions team prediction imo: 1. Andrew Porter 2. Dan Sheehan 3. Furlong 4. McCarthy 5. Beirne 6. Doris 7. Morgan 8. Earl 9. JGP 10. Russell 11. Lowe 12. Aki 13. Tuipulotu 14. Feyi-Waboso 15. Keenan 16. Dewi Lake 17. Genge 18. Fagerson 19. Itoje 20. Van De Flier/J.Willis/Dempsey/CCS etc (IDK LOL) 21. Mitchel 22. Ford 23. Kinghorn/ Ringrose Tbh it does feel like we should just ask Irish fans who they'd take in their team from the other 3 nations lol.
@@adhamh3666 aki was great then but Tui has gone to a few more levels since then whilst Aki is quite a bit older. Tui is a much better distributor and kicker and his carrying and defence are awesome too. I think they will both go on the tour but Tui will start
@@rustyfeatherstone93 I wouldn’t personally say that (especially against aki) however I certainly wouldn’t be disappointed if he was in that centre partnership too (he slipped my mind!)
@rustyfeatherstone93 could play Bundee and Tuipoltu together, it's only Australia. Tuipoltu has the skills for it and they woukd be a physically devastating combo that I think Andy farrell would enjoy
Never forget.. before the lions series the Boks had not played a test since 2019 WC final, so effectively 20 months... lions tour only took place for financial reasons...
Strange one but Matt Everard as defence coach. I know he hasn't done international but best defence in the premiership last year and again so far this year. I wouldn't overlook him to be fair.
No question Felix Jones will be the defence coach. He doesn't have a job at the moment and will likely be appointed into the Ireland setup after the Lions.
Lions assistent coachs is going to be very intriging As it will show how A.Farrell wants to play Iam expecting P.O'CONNELL to be lineout /forwards - and J.FOGGERTY to go as scrum/forwards As for defence i have a feeling they may bring in F.Jones and his Blitz defence For attack skills i have a feeling he will use K.Singfield and M.Catt even if he is going to the Waratahs A.Farrell will also select i expect 18 - 19 Irish players in a 45 man squad .Why 45 because it covers injuries being a major concern As the players will know the lineout calls scrum calls and backline plays ect without having to spend a week or more just learning the basic plays My current Lions squad 1] A.PORTER - P.SCHOEMAN - E.GENGE 2] D.SHEEHAN - R.KELLENHER - D.LAKE 3] T.FURLONG - Z.FERGURSON - T.DAVISON 4] J.Mc CARTHAY - M.ITJOE - J.RYAN 5] M.GREEN -T.BEIRNE - D.JENKINS 6] R.BAIRD - A.WAINWRIGHT - C.C.SOUTH 7] J.VAN.DER.FLEUR - T.REFELL - S.UNDERHILL 8] C.DORIS - B.EARL - J.MORGON 9] J.GIBSON-PARK - G.HORNE [K] - B.SPENCER [K] 10] F.RUSSELL [K] - M.SMITH [K] - J.CROWLEY [K] 11] J.LOWE - I.F.WABOSO - D.VAN.DER.MERWE 12] B.AKI - R.HENSHAW - S.TUIPULITIO 13] O.LAWRANCE - G.RINGROSE - H.JONES 14] O.SLIGHTHOLM - T.FREEMAN - D.GRAHAM 15] H.KEENAN - G.FURBANK [K] - B.KINGHORN [K]
I think Andy Farrell sticks to picking the Irish players in key positions like Props, Locks, scrum half, No10, centres and fullback So at props it’ll be Porter and Furlong The locks, he knows Itoje and go with Berne The Irish back row is by far the best with Doris and vdF and then you sprinkle some of the top class back rows from other countries At 9 it’ll be Gibson-Park and at 10 it’ll be Farrell who will also run the backline defense system cos he also knows it working with his dad at Saracens and England The centres will be Aki, Henshaw and Ringrose And fullback will be Keenan The good players from the other 3 will be good enough and skillful enough to play in the tour games and prove themselves
I think they're a set of all stars who play as a unit. Question is how many Irish players will Andy pick for the tour? I'm sure he'll want to include a few English, Welsh and Scots in the team but will he be diplomatic or is he going for a win by picking the best players.
That’s kind of a stupid question. Is he gone for a win by picking the best players? Why else would you pick them? It’s because you’re the best players and you want to win he’s not picking people for the experience of the tour. He’s picking people who we think can win I think it’s fair to say the irish team have performed consistently over the last couple of years, particularly in Europe so I wouldn’t be surprised if there was more Irish players on the team
Lions biggest test, before the 1st test they will play against weakened sides (the Wallabies players will be in camp prepping) so the Lions will not get tested. Wallabies best change to surprise the Lions in that series.
thatll be the attempted narrative to try to add drama for sure because it might not be very dramatic outside of this headline. Unless somehow the Aussies somehow get good at rugby.
No team has ever sustained success at the top of professional sport without top class players. Yes Ireland have a good system are well coached, but that system requires very good players for it to work. Squidge is pretty obsessed in trying to belittle the quality of Irelands players so fair play to him.
Brendan Venter, actually brought this up a while ago on a podcast. in his coaching, they concluded systems are more or less negligible you need good players full stop. Ireland are well coached with a good understanding of what they want to do but it doesn't work against the best without Dan Sheehan Furlong Bernie Doris Aki Ringrose, etc. Like Connacht, play a near identical game to Ireland and they can't get to the level Ireland are at simply because there is no Furlong Doris Van der flyer Keenan in the team.
The lions would be doing a great service to the game (especially down under, where it’s badly needed!), by playing adventurous exciting rugby, rather than looking to dominate Aus.
Bookies have 10 irish 4 english and DVDeM, I can't see Farrell picking 10 ireland players and he won't be installing the 'irish' system into the team because he won't have to, enough talent to win against Australia, good shout about Felix Jones though.
I think Ireland deserve 10 or more to be picked.we still have seen nothing from England its time now to forget about the moral victories they are losses..
The scary thing with Australia 🇦🇺 is that they don’t have any world class players who you could argue for to make a World XV And also don’t have competent players in key positions either. The Autumn series is so important for them in that they can’t get blown out in any of those games and must establish something in terms of go to selections or a game plan for next year
Exactly Schmidt is a tactical master who has time to build them into a unit if he wins the series he can go back to rugby Australia and say look we beat the lions.
i'd take this to an even more promiscuous level and have Dan appearing in one of the upcoming "so how did..." videos from Squidge, with his flat humor and comedy voice
In 2021, until then, since the rwc 2019 the boks hadnt played a single game, contrary to the 4 nations, yet still managed to miracausly win the series everybody in the north were expecting a whitewash victor... Even Squidge seems to have lost is memory...
@@fawltyoldboybasil.2178 the irony is the volume of comments from Boks fans making everything about themselves is the reason people don’t give them the respect they probably deserve
Why? This might come as a shock but the Irish couch will play the same way that brought him success with Ireland and pick the players who will do that for him. Do more or less thr Irish team plus a few thrown in for the PR side ect.
Bring in squidge permanently! ❤
Definitely as a reoccurring segment.
It's worth remembering that in 2013 Gatland wasn't afraid to pick 10+ Wales players in a 15. I think there are certain positions it's very hard to see Farrell going away from Irish players. 9 is one, 15 is another. I think at least one of the centres will probably be Irish and at least 4 of the pack (probably 5 or 6) will be Irish.
I wouldn't be surprised if Ireland provide the largest number of players however Andy Farrell also knows a lot of England playets . He will be taking advice from the other coaches on the tour .
I wouldn't be surprised to see more Scottish players touring with a smattering of Welsh.
Gatland also had no problem bringing in talentless welsh players who happened to be on holidays nearby and then didn't even give them a run. I wish Gatland and the entire welsh side was selected again to finish the job of killing the lions that he started
Lions team prediction imo:
1. Andrew Porter
2. Dan Sheehan
3. Furlong
4. McCarthy
5. Beirne
6. Doris
7. Morgan
8. Earl
9. JGP
10. Russell
11. Lowe
12. Aki
13. Tuipulotu
14. Feyi-Waboso
15. Keenan
16. Dewi Lake
17. Genge
18. Fagerson
19. Itoje
20. Van De Flier/J.Willis/Dempsey/CCS etc (IDK LOL)
21. Mitchel
22. Ford
23. Kinghorn/ Ringrose
Tbh it does feel like we should just ask Irish fans who they'd take in their team from the other 3 nations lol.
half of those lot are not even british / irish , and as for russell at 10 lmfao.
VDF, for me is a starter.
As an Irish fan I'd be happy if all Irish players were left off to tour with ireland. Stick a fork in this archaic team it's done.
@@johnnyj-t2e half of them? You sure about that? Only 3 that I can think of
“Just throw him really high in the air and he will win the ball”. One of the best descriptions of Victor Matfield.
Does Dan Cole do Audiobooks? He’s got an amazing voice for it! Get your agent on the blower to some publishers like Black Library, mate!
love squidge as a reoccurring character - think ye should eventually have a wrestle/arm wrestle - squidge's analysis might edge coles brute strength
I feel it’s an easy win, so I hope we see some fun/experimental stuff. Would love to see Bundi Aki and Lawrence centre partnership.
Tuipulotu is a class above Aki and Lawrence
@@rustyfeatherstone93 I dont think Tuipulotu has reached the level Aki did at the world cup. Aki was also nominated for world player of the year.
@@adhamh3666 aki was great then but Tui has gone to a few more levels since then whilst Aki is quite a bit older. Tui is a much better distributor and kicker and his carrying and defence are awesome too. I think they will both go on the tour but Tui will start
@@rustyfeatherstone93 I wouldn’t personally say that (especially against aki) however I certainly wouldn’t be disappointed if he was in that centre partnership too (he slipped my mind!)
@rustyfeatherstone93 could play Bundee and Tuipoltu together, it's only Australia.
Tuipoltu has the skills for it and they woukd be a physically devastating combo that I think Andy farrell would enjoy
Loving this
Only watching for squidge
Lions need a handicap to make things interesting. Therefore all assistant coaching positions must be filled by Kingsley Jones
Never forget.. before the lions series the Boks had not played a test since 2019 WC final, so effectively 20 months... lions tour only took place for financial reasons...
Strange one but Matt Everard as defence coach. I know he hasn't done international but best defence in the premiership last year and again so far this year. I wouldn't overlook him to be fair.
I wonder if Felix Jones is available for the Lions or will the whole contractual mess with the RFU prevent that
Good question.
I thought the same Jack Willis etc
I think he was given the ok for the lions
I don't fight in tournaments because when I fight a man for real, I don't want him to know what I can do. Ned Stark in Game of Thrones 😅
Big super season needed next year for Wallabies players and hopefuls… hope they get there be competitive
No question Felix Jones will be the defence coach. He doesn't have a job at the moment and will likely be appointed into the Ireland setup after the Lions.
I can weirdly imagine Wiggy being the kicking coach for the Lions tour.
Lions assistent coachs is going to be very intriging As it will show how A.Farrell wants to play Iam expecting P.O'CONNELL to be lineout /forwards - and J.FOGGERTY to go as scrum/forwards As for defence i have a feeling they may bring in F.Jones and his Blitz defence For attack skills i have a feeling he will use K.Singfield and M.Catt even if he is going to the Waratahs A.Farrell will also select i expect 18 - 19 Irish players in a 45 man squad .Why 45 because it covers injuries being a major concern As the players will know the lineout calls scrum calls and backline plays ect without having to spend a week or more just learning the basic plays My current Lions squad 1] A.PORTER - P.SCHOEMAN - E.GENGE 2] D.SHEEHAN - R.KELLENHER - D.LAKE 3] T.FURLONG - Z.FERGURSON - T.DAVISON 4] J.Mc CARTHAY - M.ITJOE - J.RYAN 5] M.GREEN -T.BEIRNE - D.JENKINS 6] R.BAIRD - A.WAINWRIGHT - C.C.SOUTH 7] J.VAN.DER.FLEUR - T.REFELL - S.UNDERHILL 8] C.DORIS - B.EARL - J.MORGON 9] J.GIBSON-PARK - G.HORNE [K] - B.SPENCER [K] 10] F.RUSSELL [K] - M.SMITH [K] - J.CROWLEY [K] 11] J.LOWE - I.F.WABOSO - D.VAN.DER.MERWE 12] B.AKI - R.HENSHAW - S.TUIPULITIO 13] O.LAWRANCE - G.RINGROSE - H.JONES 14] O.SLIGHTHOLM - T.FREEMAN - D.GRAHAM 15] H.KEENAN - G.FURBANK [K] - B.KINGHORN [K]
I think Andy Farrell sticks to picking the Irish players in key positions like Props, Locks, scrum half, No10, centres and fullback
So at props it’ll be Porter and Furlong
The locks, he knows Itoje and go with Berne
The Irish back row is by far the best with Doris and vdF and then you sprinkle some of the top class back rows from other countries
At 9 it’ll be Gibson-Park and at 10 it’ll be Farrell who will also run the backline defense system cos he also knows it working with his dad at Saracens and England
The centres will be Aki, Henshaw and Ringrose
And fullback will be Keenan
The good players from the other 3 will be good enough and skillful enough to play in the tour games and prove themselves
Looking forward to Lions Anzac team match wonder if that willl include Oz an kiwi overseas based players?
It’d be cool if it was vs. All Blacks like in a one off test
Rem Gats pretty much brought Welsh capped & uncapped players. The Faz will mix it up between nations
I think they're a set of all stars who play as a unit. Question is how many Irish players will Andy pick for the tour? I'm sure he'll want to include a few English, Welsh and Scots in the team but will he be diplomatic or is he going for a win by picking the best players.
That’s kind of a stupid question. Is he gone for a win by picking the best players? Why else would you pick them? It’s because you’re the best players and you want to win he’s not picking people for the experience of the tour. He’s picking people who we think can win I think it’s fair to say the irish team have performed consistently over the last couple of years, particularly in Europe so I wouldn’t be surprised if there was more Irish players on the team
Lions biggest test, before the 1st test they will play against weakened sides (the Wallabies players will be in camp prepping) so the Lions will not get tested. Wallabies best change to surprise the Lions in that series.
Same thing happened in SA last tour. Absolutely destroyed the club sides because the Boks where in camp.
Should be a run through, few tactics required.
i want to know if Aus will pick their france based players. Putting Skelton/Arnold in the pack would surely help a bit?
Irish Coach vs Former Irish Coach 🤔
thatll be the attempted narrative to try to add drama for sure because it might not be very dramatic outside of this headline. Unless somehow the Aussies somehow get good at rugby.
No team has ever sustained success at the top of professional sport without top class players. Yes Ireland have a good system are well coached, but that system requires very good players for it to work. Squidge is pretty obsessed in trying to belittle the quality of Irelands players so fair play to him.
Brendan Venter, actually brought this up a while ago on a podcast. in his coaching, they concluded systems are more or less negligible you need good players full stop. Ireland are well coached with a good understanding of what they want to do but it doesn't work against the best without Dan Sheehan Furlong Bernie Doris Aki Ringrose, etc. Like Connacht, play a near identical game to Ireland and they can't get to the level Ireland are at simply because there is no Furlong Doris Van der flyer Keenan in the team.
Ireland have been the most successful 6 nations team in the last 15 years yes 15 years, we have never had a two year gap to rebuild like England …
@@davidwalker2402 Ireland do really well in WC's too. Incredible record
Commenting before Lenny gets cancelled by the entire nation of Australia once again
Can't stop a triple hard bastard. He's persona non Grata in Australia
The lions would be doing a great service to the game (especially down under, where it’s badly needed!), by playing adventurous exciting rugby, rather than looking to dominate Aus.
If we're just throwing out names of coaches what about O'Gara as a coach
I know the lions is iron plated cos it makes loads of cash. But I’m not that fussed.
whats gats up to?
Bookies have 10 irish 4 english and DVDeM, I can't see Farrell picking 10 ireland players and he won't be installing the 'irish' system into the team because he won't have to, enough talent to win against Australia, good shout about Felix Jones though.
I think Ireland deserve 10 or more to be picked.we still have seen nothing from England its time now to forget about the moral victories they are losses..
Pick a lot of old English players to make it more equal. A discussion by players with little or no coaching experience doesn't clarify the position.
The scary thing with Australia 🇦🇺 is that they don’t have any world class players who you could argue for to make a World XV
And also don’t have competent players in key positions either.
The Autumn series is so important for them in that they can’t get blown out in any of those games and must establish something in terms of go to selections or a game plan for next year
The Aus players that stood out for me in recent years were Koroibete and Skelton but i don't think he currently qualifies.
Underestimate Australia at your own peril.
Yeah, Aus winning the thing wouldn't surprise me.
Exactly Schmidt is a tactical master who has time to build them into a unit if he wins the series he can go back to rugby Australia and say look we beat the lions.
Take it to south africa...2021 was an anti cl8max...
ROG?
First Comment Woo!
i'd take this to an even more promiscuous level and have Dan appearing in one of the upcoming "so how did..." videos from Squidge, with his flat humor and comedy voice
In 2021, until then, since the rwc 2019 the boks hadnt played a single game, contrary to the 4 nations, yet still managed to miracausly win the series everybody in the north were expecting a whitewash victor... Even Squidge seems to have lost is memory...
Sport is an enigma
Literally no one in the nh expected a whitewash. Well done trying to lie to embellish your point though!
And here we are once again with another 'South Africa NEVER gets the respect it deserves' comment. Why?
@@fawltyoldboybasil.2178 the irony is the volume of comments from Boks fans making everything about themselves is the reason people don’t give them the respect they probably deserve
@@fawltyoldboybasil.2178 In south africa, hibrida like you are known as Sussies...
We need decent representation from each country
@chrisp4170 we need the best players picked regardless of nationality
15-9 injury allowing
Keenan, Duhan, ringrose, tuiplotu, lowe, Russell, Tomos or Ali Price
1-8
Porter, Sheehan, furlong, Daffyd Jenkins, George Martin, Beirne, Cunningham South, Doris
I think he will go for the most physical players and give up the irish attack
Why? This might come as a shock but the Irish couch will play the same way that brought him success with Ireland and pick the players who will do that for him. Do more or less thr Irish team plus a few thrown in for the PR side ect.
Did you not watch the sheer physicality of the Irish beating SA in their last away game in Sa, this was clearly lacking in the ABs V England games 😊
Slightly insulting to the Irish TALENT here
Aussie moffies, no contest...
They're going to play shite
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