People have made a lot of good points that I didn't mention/explain well: - You can jump instead of parry during yellow ring attacks. - There's a setting to increase the window of time you have to parry - Dodge/parry timing window on Ultimate is much smaller than on lower difficulties. Like by a lot. - "No abilities/gadgets - I did use the abilities/gadgets that were automatically unlocked by the game, but didn't unlock any additional ones. That's the key difference. Also certain boss fights require abilities so even if I didn't use them, they'd have to be used in boss fights. - You can avoid some of the forced upgrades if you skip tutorials (tbh didn't know that was an option when I started this challenge) - You can spam parry and often it will successfully parry an attack. - I know certain parts make it look like I'm bad at the game but that's because I AM bad at the game. - The footage from the boss fights is here: th-cam.com/video/7nPTsPAwM1w/w-d-xo.html - Hope y'all enjoyed. I am much better at TLOU1/2 I swear
i will say this for the dodging the dodging mechanic hasnt grown inconsistent, its just a LOT more unforgiving compared to the first game you have to dodge/parry ONLY when your spidersense or rings around the enemy appear, and being just a second too early or too late is whats getting you hit i struggled with fights like this for a long while too, until i kinda retrained myself to only dodge/parry when prompted to, and that became a lot more consistent with avoiding damage
Oh absolutely. Rewatching the footage (and you can see it in a lot of the clips I included) I was definitely getting to a point where I would just spam dodge to an extent. I think the timing window on Ultimate where you CAN dodge is just so small I would start trying to anticipate it and dodge early because other times I would be way too slow to dodge.
The dedication in this video is next level. I fully upgraded my symbiote abilities today and looking back I feel bad for you. I still find the Scream boss fight hard even with loads of abilities and gadgets.
Just as a tip for next time you do another challenge for this game: Don't do that Brooklyn Visions mission where you save the teacher. It is not required for the main story of the game. And I love this video, I haven't seen any of your other vids, but I am probably going to watch more of them!
i actually did this, in my opinion this game takes 3 steps forward and one step back in terms of combat. I felt like it was too easy and did an immediate second run the same way you did.
Dude on spectacular difficulty if you rush main story don’t getting most of skills and upgrades the game does provides a nice challenge (thats how I played first time) I was doing some side stuff but almost all the Hero tokens i let for post game so i got stucked at low suit tech specs and low gadgets. Struggled a lot in the boss fights with only one focus bar and 100 health bar
Idk man I thought it was easy, but to be fair immediately before this game I played Witcher death march and platinumed both the other Spider-Man games so I might be biased.
I beat the Lizard today in Ultimate Difficulty and I know what you mean Idk if you're still stuck on it or not, but I recommend just not using the Symbiote abilities (other than the Surge) and just switching back to Peter's Mechanical Arms, they're way more OP than the Symbiote abilities
Wraith and Venom were the only ones to give me trouble during my Ultimate Run (No Upgrades) it’s funny how lots of ppl like to torture themselves in/with video games 😂
Im pretty sure they didnt go for mysterio cause there was no way theyd be able to keep him contained while letting him have his illusions. Not to mention those illusions definitely arent gonna be doing anything to Kraven
I also did an Ultimate with only traversal suit tech. Combat is fun because you have to focus and actually get good. But you’re a masochist for no skills and abilities.
I really feel like dodging and parrying would be easier if during the white/yellow dodge/parry window the indicator didn’t even appear and only the red ones did for the perfect dodge and parry indicators. As soon as I see an indicator I reflexively respond, and it always messed me up in the tougher fights on ultimate
The only indicator I struggle with is the blue one Due to the fact I instantly go for parrying when I see indicators I’ve played too many games this year that simply rocked that feature Souls games,RE:4,Witcher 3 etc Became an habit at that point lol
Yea, I did this by accident because it was the first Spiderman game I played. I didn’t play on ultimate though and I was struggling until after I beat the game I figured it out
Reminds me of the time My brother almost beat miles morales with no upgrades cuz he forgot to upgrade until the final boss cuz he didn’t realize there was abilities he needed
Oh trust me I almost switched to a different challenge but I convinced myself if I could get within one hit then I could beat it and it only took me a few more tries. Still the worst choke in any of my challenges I think 😭
29th, and how about, just to torture you, spectacular difficulty (ultimate if u want) but you can only use the l1 abilities to attack and defeat people, no regular attack Also no parry cause those might possibly do a little bit of damage
I did little to no side stuff my first time playing, got my ass kicked at ever boss. But that was with abilities on and on Amazing difficulty. You are absolutely mad doing that on Ultimate with nothing.
12:50 did you have auto heal on? if you did the game will heal you after you die letting you continue but then it realizes you died. I know this since it happened like a billion times to me during the kraven vs venom fight. Also I am not bad, but in the venom fight the fire (or just bright color in general) basically causes me to be blind since i struggle seeing the rings or "venom" sense. Not that anyone asked.
Just so we're clear because i want to do this challenge for fun. Am i allowed to use the abilities? I assume i am because i saw you did in the video the only things not allowed are mega venom blast, Symbiote surge, buying skills and gadgets or upgrades right? Please correct me if i am wrong
Fun fact you can actually ignore the venom blast part for miles. I was doing my second playthrough and I used my venom jump as soon as the enemies showed up and I used venom jump instead of the venom blast
I have a tip when the bear in Emily may foundation what you do is get out of the bears sight for a while then when he can’t find you then press triangle and you’ll get him in one punch
Yeah, um..a bit iffy there at 8:57. Yellow does mean you must parry, but it doesn't mean you must time it then. You time your parry when it turns RED. Accidentally dodging instead of parrying is just a skill issue you'd have to practice on. I had a tough time with parrying, too, but I eventually got the gist of it. And after getting the gist of it, I don't find it inconsistent, myself. Parrying is an unexpectedly major mechanic introduced to the game's combat that us players just have to get to know and practice.
After seeing that video I has to try it myself It was definitely the hardest challenge I have ever tried More of this is depression because I can't use the symbiote surge Thx for the idea :)
Beating the game without any upgrade is bassicaly what I did first time because I speedrun through the entire story without doing any side missions. God knows that 25378/20 for a single upgrade is big
With the mini, shield boss where kraven rang the bell you can just hide from him for a bit and he forgets you existence and you can one hit stealth kill him
I beat the game without using suit tech or buying any of Peter’s skill tree so I didn’t realise the suit tech acc gave u an extra bar so I was struggling with 1 bar of focus on hardest difficulty against venom was quite painful but got there eventually
I also did this challenge and it was the most difficult challenge I have tried so far . I only had a hard time with wraith boss( it was my first boss on this run so I had no idea how consistent I had to be), kraven part 2, venom part 2 and 4, and the subway fight with all the symbiotes. I will try segmented no hit run next ( it shouldn't be that hard segmented , because I can reload checkpoints )
Tip for parrying if you have shitty timing You can just spam the parry button rlly fast and it will parry 90% of the time Or just increase the parry window on settings
8:07 when I played him I actually jumped away because of low hp but he forgot I was there and I got the option to web strike takedown Also to avoid some attacks that can’t seem to be dodged you can press x and just keep jumping
Yeah Kraven’s sniper is insane. Without that I think the fight would be significantly easier. I did a test and might make a short on this, but on Ultimate you literally have 30 frames/half a second to dodge from when the spidey senses appear to when you get shot - hence why I was so jumpy and dodged early so often lol.
The parry thing is pretty simple you only stun enemies in a perfect party anything else is a block that reduces damage. It’s pretty forgiving so all you have to do is pay attention
First time I played I was confused as to why I couldn’t get a second or third focus bar and after beating venom I realized I just had to upgrade suit tech
I didn't know u could upgrade heath and I'm at the part where Peter has the white venom suit and he's fighting Harry (venom) and I can't beat him. I never upgraded the heath ..I didn't know you could do that. I've been tying to beat him for months.
Even though I raged a lot, this game was definitely my GOTY. Story was great, most of the suits were nice, my favorite part was Coney Island, followed up closely by the MJ sections, they remind me of TLOU a lot. Combat was definitely improved.
People have made a lot of good points that I didn't mention/explain well:
- You can jump instead of parry during yellow ring attacks.
- There's a setting to increase the window of time you have to parry
- Dodge/parry timing window on Ultimate is much smaller than on lower difficulties. Like by a lot.
- "No abilities/gadgets - I did use the abilities/gadgets that were automatically unlocked by the game, but didn't unlock any additional ones. That's the key difference. Also certain boss fights require abilities so even if I didn't use them, they'd have to be used in boss fights.
- You can avoid some of the forced upgrades if you skip tutorials (tbh didn't know that was an option when I started this challenge)
- You can spam parry and often it will successfully parry an attack.
- I know certain parts make it look like I'm bad at the game but that's because I AM bad at the game.
- The footage from the boss fights is here: th-cam.com/video/7nPTsPAwM1w/w-d-xo.html
- Hope y'all enjoyed. I am much better at TLOU1/2 I swear
And to parry a hit you need to press the button when the ring is red not yellow. That's why it is inconsistent.
Bro no wonder I was struggling to parry/dodge on ultimate mode lol
Parries also only stun the enemy if you are parrying the last hit in their combo.
Ok
@@filqkathegamer3810huh
For those of you struggling to parry, the game outright tells you that you can also jump, which has much more forgiving timing
I was screaming this the whole video 😂😭
Until you die
You could also press the parry button when you're spider sense turns red. It's much more consistent than focusing on the enemy for the parry.
@@theremnants6807doesn't it damage you still
@@XtheminerproX you can tap it multiple times if you pushed it early and it'll be a full parry still
Honestly the parrying makes this games combat soooo much more complex and interesting compared to the last game
"I Tried Beating Spiderman 2 WITHOUT Taking DAMAGE" check out the video
i will say this for the dodging
the dodging mechanic hasnt grown inconsistent, its just a LOT more unforgiving compared to the first game
you have to dodge/parry ONLY when your spidersense or rings around the enemy appear, and being just a second too early or too late is whats getting you hit
i struggled with fights like this for a long while too, until i kinda retrained myself to only dodge/parry when prompted to, and that became a lot more consistent with avoiding damage
Oh absolutely. Rewatching the footage (and you can see it in a lot of the clips I included) I was definitely getting to a point where I would just spam dodge to an extent. I think the timing window on Ultimate where you CAN dodge is just so small I would start trying to anticipate it and dodge early because other times I would be way too slow to dodge.
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The dedication in this video is next level. I fully upgraded my symbiote abilities today and looking back I feel bad for you. I still find the Scream boss fight hard even with loads of abilities and gadgets.
"I Tried Beating Spiderman 2 WITHOUT Taking DAMAGE" check out the video
Omg, that Turn Off the Dark joke had my jaw dropped
The stuntmen dropped more than their jaws.
It’s crazy how you never miss with videos they’re all bangers
"I Tried Beating Spiderman 2 WITHOUT Taking DAMAGE" check out the video
This has inspired me to do only og Spider-Man abilities, punching, dodging, web shooters and throwing stuff around the map.
Requiring a full bar to heal is bullshit to me
I prefer the first game’s healing
Same
Yeah, I'd just come from Miles Morales when I played SM2, and it was something that definitely saved my butt numerous times in that game.
@@Scout819 Same
More of a challenge to save your bars for style or efficiency.
Sounds like a issue
Just as a tip for next time you do another challenge for this game: Don't do that Brooklyn Visions mission where you save the teacher. It is not required for the main story of the game. And I love this video, I haven't seen any of your other vids, but I am probably going to watch more of them!
The transition at 2:25 was insane
I thought I was the only one who noticed that 💀
God, I love no upgrade runs.
It teaches me how to take the pleasure with the pain
As a person who took like a day to do the kraven fight it hurt to watch the snipe montage.
This video inspired me to do the same thing but actually 100% with no skills. Going back to using skills makes the game feel a lot more refreshed.
i actually did this, in my opinion this game takes 3 steps forward and one step back in terms of combat. I felt like it was too easy and did an immediate second run the same way you did.
Dude on spectacular difficulty if you rush main story don’t getting most of skills and upgrades the game does provides a nice challenge (thats how I played first time)
I was doing some side stuff but almost all the Hero tokens i let for post game so i got stucked at low suit tech specs and low gadgets. Struggled a lot in the boss fights with only one focus bar and 100 health bar
"R.I.P Jeff, I knew you would've loved og fortnite" Had me DYING
Yessir… it has arrived 🙏
BTW, the lizard fight on ultimate difficulty is litteraly impossible
it was difficult at first but over time i could do it taking almost no hits
Idk man I thought it was easy, but to be fair immediately before this game I played Witcher death march and platinumed both the other Spider-Man games so I might be biased.
@@epicfilmer2474 yeah I just beat it the other night
I beat the Lizard today in Ultimate Difficulty and I know what you mean
Idk if you're still stuck on it or not, but I recommend just not using the Symbiote abilities (other than the Surge) and just switching back to Peter's Mechanical Arms, they're way more OP than the Symbiote abilities
Wraith and Venom were the only ones to give me trouble during my Ultimate Run (No Upgrades) it’s funny how lots of ppl like to torture themselves in/with video games 😂
"I Tried Beating Spiderman 2 WITHOUT Taking DAMAGE" check out the video
The only game that allowed me to torture myself is Star Wars: Rogue Squadron. Since then, I stopped torturing myself in/with video games.🙃
18:22 I love how spider-man use a gun 😂😂
so we are gonna ignore the transition at 2:22 from Peter to miles?
5:30 is basically a big ol' " Is there a lore reason Harry didn't try to bend the bars? Is he stupid??".😂😂
18:53 Ouch. Sick burn bruh😂😂
Peter. No amount of symbiote with protect you from a spanish moms wrath.
Now beat it on ultimate with no upgrades and not taking a single hit 😈
That’s a foul request 💀
Without any abilities 💀
And restart it if you get hit
Im pretty sure they didnt go for mysterio cause there was no way theyd be able to keep him contained while letting him have his illusions. Not to mention those illusions definitely arent gonna be doing anything to Kraven
If you want a little hint, just pressing the parry button will have spiderman raise up his arms and block making you take almost no damage
my first video of you and i already love this
I also did an Ultimate with only traversal suit tech. Combat is fun because you have to focus and actually get good.
But you’re a masochist for no skills and abilities.
New upload nice have to wake up the kids in the basement for this
On any phase of Mr. negative you can just wall trash him until he loses, and to do this I would recommend venom dashing him into the wall
Where in the hell is the fun in that though
The way you just played thus is the exact way I played it my first time cause I forgot about the upgrades. But I still use the surges
You can change the Parry timing settings in the gameplay option settings
Correct (and tbh I recommend doing this) but for the purpose of this challenge I didn't want to make anything easier lol
The “ I missed the part where that’s my problem” got me
I really feel like dodging and parrying would be easier if during the white/yellow dodge/parry window the indicator didn’t even appear and only the red ones did for the perfect dodge and parry indicators. As soon as I see an indicator I reflexively respond, and it always messed me up in the tougher fights on ultimate
Well yes, it would. But that's why they did it, to make the game more challenging. If you want easier gameplay play on Friendly Neighbourhood 😂
The only indicator I struggle with is the blue one
Due to the fact I instantly go for parrying when I see indicators
I’ve played too many games this year that simply rocked that feature
Souls games,RE:4,Witcher 3 etc
Became an habit at that point lol
Yea, I did this by accident because it was the first Spiderman game I played. I didn’t play on ultimate though and I was struggling until after I beat the game I figured it out
For the kraven with the sniper part literally just hide behind trees and it won’t hit
That bite of 87 part actually made me laugh out loud😂😂😂😂
Reminds me of the time My brother almost beat miles morales with no upgrades cuz he forgot to upgrade until the final boss cuz he didn’t realize there was abilities he needed
23:40 I would’ve just thrown the PS5 out the window oh my god
Oh trust me I almost switched to a different challenge but I convinced myself if I could get within one hit then I could beat it and it only took me a few more tries. Still the worst choke in any of my challenges I think 😭
First + Spider-Man 2 throwables only
Throwables only in this game would genuinely be impossible so this is a great idea!
@@epiccakesgamingyou can web up smaller enemies and make them throwables
29th, and how about, just to torture you, spectacular difficulty (ultimate if u want) but you can only use the l1 abilities to attack and defeat people, no regular attack
Also no parry cause those might possibly do a little bit of damage
5:22 LOL
6 hours on kraven , just wow , just earned yourself a sub
Hahaha i remember being in the crowd during the spider man show where the actor fell , funny reference given that u were in times square
I did little to no side stuff my first time playing, got my ass kicked at ever boss. But that was with abilities on and on Amazing difficulty. You are absolutely mad doing that on Ultimate with nothing.
12:50 did you have auto heal on? if you did the game will heal you after you die letting you continue but then it realizes you died. I know this since it happened like a billion times to me during the kraven vs venom fight.
Also I am not bad, but in the venom fight the fire (or just bright color in general) basically causes me to be blind since i struggle seeing the rings or "venom" sense. Not that anyone asked.
Just so we're clear because i want to do this challenge for fun. Am i allowed to use the abilities? I assume i am because i saw you did in the video the only things not allowed are mega venom blast, Symbiote surge, buying skills and gadgets or upgrades right?
Please correct me if i am wrong
The time where Herry fell from high place got me laughing 😂😂😂😂
Fun fact you can actually ignore the venom blast part for miles. I was doing my second playthrough and I used my venom jump as soon as the enemies showed up and I used venom jump instead of the venom blast
holy shit man this deserves so many more views! fucking love the editing for real. great video!
I have a tip when the bear in Emily may foundation what you do is get out of the bears sight for a while then when he can’t find you then press triangle and you’ll get him in one punch
Yeah, um..a bit iffy there at 8:57. Yellow does mean you must parry, but it doesn't mean you must time it then. You time your parry when it turns RED. Accidentally dodging instead of parrying is just a skill issue you'd have to practice on. I had a tough time with parrying, too, but I eventually got the gist of it. And after getting the gist of it, I don't find it inconsistent, myself. Parrying is an unexpectedly major mechanic introduced to the game's combat that us players just have to get to know and practice.
After seeing that video I has to try it myself
It was definitely the hardest challenge I have ever tried
More of this is depression because I can't use the symbiote surge
Thx for the idea :)
13:28 bro just called Kraven a fake hunter😂😂
I played this game on the hardest difficulty as well but I upgraded and used gadgets as well but I was stuck on lizard for awhile too.
I learned that the bear guy in the Emily May Foundation could be killed with stealth
Beating the game without any upgrade is bassicaly what I did first time because I speedrun through the entire story without doing any side missions.
God knows that 25378/20 for a single upgrade is big
Finally someone else who does this
Great video!
Bro at 2 minutes and 20 seconds had me rolling
bro had so much trouble with the green symbiotes when all he had to do was shoot a singular web at them😂
With the mini, shield boss where kraven rang the bell you can just hide from him for a bit and he forgets you existence and you can one hit stealth kill him
Love youre videos❤
Thank you! :)
Ngl I kinda hate how the bossfights are in arena type areas
I did the same when the game was made. Venom and Kraven were hard.
With the bear guy, I hit him into a tree and he died instantly lol bro didn’t want honey
I beat the game without using suit tech or buying any of Peter’s skill tree so I didn’t realise the suit tech acc gave u an extra bar so I was struggling with 1 bar of focus on hardest difficulty against venom was quite painful but got there eventually
16:15 this boss fight was pretty easy cause you know all his moves up until that point
Uh not on Spectacular or harder
17:35 aaawwww
I also did this challenge and it was the most difficult challenge I have tried so far . I only had a hard time with wraith boss( it was my first boss on this run so I had no idea how consistent I had to be), kraven part 2, venom part 2 and 4, and the subway fight with all the symbiotes. I will try segmented no hit run next ( it shouldn't be that hard segmented , because I can reload checkpoints )
This video funny asl😂
ngl this was a very well made video
@21:44 does anyone know where that sound que is from
It's from the movie Annihilation (great movie). The song it's from is called The Alien.
@@epiccakesgaming I appreciate it greatly
@@epiccakesgaming that little jingle has been stuck in my head for the longest and I don’t know where it’s from
Omg I just realized the armed and dangerous trophy is also a name of a juice wrld song does this mean something?
Tip for parrying if you have shitty timing
You can just spam the parry button rlly fast and it will parry 90% of the time
Or just increase the parry window on settings
8:07 when I played him I actually jumped away because of low hp but he forgot I was there and I got the option to web strike takedown
Also to avoid some attacks that can’t seem to be dodged you can press x and just keep jumping
24:20 i swear what does “#” inches of venom mean
Nvm its about the statue and people being sus
Today i fought kraven on hardest diff and thank god im not only one who got mental issues because of that sniper
Yeah Kraven’s sniper is insane. Without that I think the fight would be significantly easier. I did a test and might make a short on this, but on Ultimate you literally have 30 frames/half a second to dodge from when the spidey senses appear to when you get shot - hence why I was so jumpy and dodged early so often lol.
@@epiccakesgaming i feel less stupid reading this, not only one with these problems 😭🙏
“just my self and 19 inches of venom” - epiccakesgaming 2023
I did this on my first time for spectacular difficulty and wow it was muncher harder than part 1
20:24 "Miles original" was so bad I thought it was a glitch, On god
You must have worn out the circle button to death
10:08 they got Peter hitting the chad stride😭
I find that spamming the party button during that fight works pretty well
I highly agree about kraven He was a Pain In the Ass in my first playthrough but new game plus was a breeze
9:06
There’s only patterns that don’t stun them.
11:48 spider man doesn’t kill but “ I miss the part where’s that’s my problem”
The parry thing is pretty simple you only stun enemies in a perfect party anything else is a block that reduces damage. It’s pretty forgiving so all you have to do is pay attention
So yeah you struggling was just a skill issue it’s all about timing if you miss the timing you fail simple as that
Brother you suck at dodging holy shit most of those where you dodging too early objectively. The timing is not that hard lmao
First time I played I was confused as to why I couldn’t get a second or third focus bar and after beating venom I realized I just had to upgrade suit tech
You can turn tutorial off so you don’t really have to unlock anything except for the arms
15:15 I just started web swinging whenever he gets in the trees
I didn't really use my gadgets except my regular web blasts
15:37 the dodging part there is quite hard even in friendly neighbourhood
The reason parries don’t work when you get the timing is because the enemy is doing a combo and the game won’t let you stun them till the final hit
Any tips for venoms 2nd phase? Im also playing with no upgrades and have been stuck on his part for ages
You are able to do settings to increase parry time
I finally found someone who also had trouble parrying like me
I didn't know u could upgrade heath and I'm at the part where Peter has the white venom suit and he's fighting Harry (venom) and I can't beat him. I never upgraded the heath
..I didn't know you could do that. I've been tying to beat him for months.
Even though I raged a lot, this game was definitely my GOTY. Story was great, most of the suits were nice, my favorite part was Coney Island, followed up closely by the MJ sections, they remind me of TLOU a lot. Combat was definitely improved.
"I Tried Beating Spiderman 2 WITHOUT Taking DAMAGE" check out the video
@@Whiffs Why?
cuz its a good vid@@Spoky_Pun
@@Whiffs *cough* self advertising *cough*
2:25 clean transtion.
Can u do a challenge of spider man 2 but without venom abilities