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  • @NoBoilerplate
    @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +619

    ERRATA
    - The borrow checker is explained in my previous video "Rust makes you feel like a genius" (many people missed it)
    - Void functions actual return an empty tuple `()` which is pronounced "unit".
    - Reading a variable before it is initialised in C doesn't crash, it's undefined behaviour WHICH IS WORSE OMG
    - (1..) to my great disappointment isn't infinite, it's bound by the iterators internal i32, which is up to std::i32::MAX (2,147,483,647)
    - Missing semicolon on line 5!
    - i32 is difficult to liken to C's long, it's architecture-dependent.
    - 5:11 though this compiles, it should be `fn is_positive(&self)` to avoid the method taking ownership of the self doc.rust-lang.org/book/ch05-03-method-syntax.html
    - 2:35 - `assert!` should be `assert_eq!`
    - 9:31 `flat_map` or `map` both work in this example
    - 7:13 Error says `OErr` where it should be `Err`

    • @user-rg1jp2us4o
      @user-rg1jp2us4o 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      It would be helpful if this was pinned. Great video by the way.

    • @mixwood1130
      @mixwood1130 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Have you ever heard a language called "vlang" ?

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@user-rg1jp2us4o Thank you - pinned. This is the SECOND time I was sure I pinned a comment and youtube has forgotten about it. HMM

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@mixwood1130 I've not! (which is already a problem lol) But it'd love to hear about it?

    • @Dygear
      @Dygear 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      C could crash, but sometimes it doesn't and that's actually worse too.

  • @LucasOe
    @LucasOe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +892

    This is exactly what I want to see in a tutorial! No 30 minute talk about every function a string has, but straight to the point while respecting my intelligence. Thank you!

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      That's what I'm here for - fast, technical videos! What would you like me to do next?

    • @rachydamine9458
      @rachydamine9458 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@NoBoilerplate More Rust, maybe ideas of projects to try out

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@rachydamine9458 Righto!

    • @erifetim
      @erifetim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      ​@@NoBoilerplate
      I'd also love to have specific rust features explained in such concise and practical ways, i.e. traits, futures, working with cargo and toml, etc. Nothing too in-depth, just some mouth watering substance that gives you a good idea on where to start. (could basically do every chapter in the rust book like that haha)

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@erifetim righto! Sounds good, noted!

  • @chair547
    @chair547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1431

    Reading from undefined memory doesn't always crash at runtime. It's Undefined Behavior. Most commonly it either crashes or gives garbage data, but its allowed to do literally anything, including make demons fly out of your nose

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +487

      You're right, it's WORSE than crashing! The more I learn about cpp the sadder I am 😂

    • @chair547
      @chair547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +198

      @@NoBoilerplate common experience

    • @VixieTSQ
      @VixieTSQ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

      not the demons again...

    • @abj136
      @abj136 2 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      @@VixieTSQ no known implementation has chosen that option.

    • @thestemgamer3346
      @thestemgamer3346 2 ปีที่แล้ว +141

      "Undefined Behaviour is a good thing actually"
      - The C++ cope fiend

  • @ayior
    @ayior ปีที่แล้ว +229

    I'm only here to get a gist of what Rust is about, but I gotta say, "it panics when it unwraps and finds an error" is a wonderfully vivid image

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Like a skittish horse!
      Here's my high-level overview of Rust th-cam.com/video/4dvf6kM70qM/w-d-xo.html

    • @YarPirates-vy7iv
      @YarPirates-vy7iv 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@NoBoilerplatehorses are notorious for unwrapping.

  • @maksiksq
    @maksiksq 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    You explained (atleast to an experienced programmer) everything necessary about Rust in 10 minutes, that's something that others do for 2 hours!

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      The whole point of my channel :-) Here's a few more Rust videos of mine that I'm proud of, all in the same fast style: th-cam.com/video/oY0XwMOSzq4/w-d-xo.html

  • @DavebotBeepBoop
    @DavebotBeepBoop 2 ปีที่แล้ว +385

    This was incredibly helpful is what has helped me the most so far. I'm 'fluent' in several languages so I have a solid understanding of what to expect from languages. So many videos start from the ground up, and spend 10+ minutes explaining just a single concept or two. Skipping through video after video (or article after article) just to learn the basics is exhausting. That's why I appreciate this video so much. It's not to intended to be fully comprehensive but to provide people (like myself) a bridge between their existing knowledge and how to use Rust. I came away from this video feeling like I could write a nice simple 'hello world' type of application without having to look up 'how to write a function in rust'.
    Dense videos like these take a lot of time and energy to create, so just wanted to say a huge 'thank you' and share how much it's helped me. The resources that you've linked are just as helpful. Thank you!

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      My pleasure, and I'm so pleased the videos help you out!
      My aim is to get as many people into Rust as possible, because it's really revolutionary - not just for C developers tired with bugs (as the common wisdom is) but ALSO for high-level developers (such as me, a python web dev) wanting to write perfect code.
      Have you seen my previous videos?
      Rust has a steep initial learning curve. It's going to be a HARD job to get through a few pain points. Here's two you'll hit:
      1. Two string types!?
      2. Lifetimes
      And when you hit these rough days, you'll need a boost. My previous 3 videos are designed to remind you that not only is Rust exciting, but it's the only language you can do these amazing things in. Watch them when you need motivation.
      Good luck!
      (My recommendation is for 1. is to use String (not str) everywhere, and 2. you can sidestep by copying everything. .copy() .copy() .copy() who cares, optimise later! OR NEVER)

    • @malbacato91
      @malbacato91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@NoBoilerplate the Copy trait is marker. you meant .clone()

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@malbacato91 Ah! Thank you!

  • @nafisahmed6247
    @nafisahmed6247 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    This is that video which assumes I am well versed in C, and now I want a quick crash course on getting up to speed with rust syntax. I rarely find tutorials like this. Every body starts a hello world program and spends 30 minutes there.

  • @nhanNguyen-wo8fy
    @nhanNguyen-wo8fy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +180

    0:56 variable binding
    1:23 choose integer type
    2:14 tuple
    4:43 struct
    5:42 funtion
    8:20 question mark operator
    8:36 Iterator

  • @No.Name-Y-T
    @No.Name-Y-T 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1223

    walked in thinking this was about the videogame rust, walked out being able to hack the pentagon.

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +203

      ha! I have the reverse problem all the time XD

    • @alperalkan2000
      @alperalkan2000 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      @@NoBoilerplate At least now you know how to raid a base with Double Barrel Shotguns and C4

    • @TheBlackmanIsGod
      @TheBlackmanIsGod ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I thought I would be able to understand this video since it’s like “lesrn rust in 10 mins”, then he starts saying things like “MATCHES MUST BE EXHAUSTIVE”, WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN?!?!?!

    • @crimsonmegumin
      @crimsonmegumin ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@TheBlackmanIsGod btw if you are really curious, "exhaustion" in this context means "check all possibilities", when something is #[non_exhaustive], it means that you can't check for all possibilities and you need a "fallback" case

    • @TheBlackmanIsGod
      @TheBlackmanIsGod ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@crimsonmegumin thank you for that but I’m still totally lost and that doesn’t make any sense to me.

  • @supercasterjacy
    @supercasterjacy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Coming from several back-end languages, this video was exactly what I needed to get me started with Rust. Thank you!

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My pleasure! Check out my other videos for inspiration!

  • @uquantum
    @uquantum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Terrific: for someone new to compiling to web assembly using rust, I really appreciate how much you pack in. Agree that borrow-checker and lifetimes best separated out to another video. Rust is such a welcome evolution to programmers, improving the reliability of the programs we write!😀

  • @pknepps
    @pknepps ปีที่แล้ว +63

    As a math major in Uni, Rust notably reads a lot like advanced mathematics. Especially with the "let" keyword and infinite iterations

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  ปีที่แล้ว +28

      You're gonna love Haskell :-)

    • @user-gg2rc2mt4g
      @user-gg2rc2mt4g ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Math and programming are somewhat intertwined. Think of programming as "Math automation". You write the "math formula" as code, declare variables, and the computer "computes" everything else. Programming is a great tool for math majors especially if they had to deal with the same math formula with different variables.

  • @Viureify
    @Viureify 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have been programming in different languages for 20 years+ and no language has ever made me fall in love again with creating software as much as Rust. If you code, you owe it to your heart and soul to check out Rust.
    Thanks for the amazing content in this channel by the way!

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "If you code, you owe it to your heart and soul to check out Rust" Can I quote you on that? :-)

  • @gabrieldornelles9310
    @gabrieldornelles9310 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This video is truly awesome. Nowadays is very hard to find concise and good selected content about a language in only 10 minutes. We all know we won't learn the whole language in 10 minutes, but as someone who also just dives in the languages and takes its time to learn, this video cleared a lot of concepts about rust syntax (like reading and understanding the generics for functions and structs, or the '?' operator, or simply the '!' character that represents macros), it helps so much to understand what is written.

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Though all credit should go to Amos, I learned Rust from him! fasterthanli.me/articles/a-half-hour-to-learn-rust

  • @brianschuetz2614
    @brianschuetz2614 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd heard of Rust, but didn't know what it was like. I didn't want to go through an hours long video describing every detail. I just wanted to get a sense of what it is like. This video gave me what I wanted. Thanks for doing the work.

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  ปีที่แล้ว

      My pleasure. This video focusses on the syntax specifically, which isn't quite the whole picture, check out other videos in my rust series, such as th-cam.com/video/4YU_r70yGjQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @alfredomenezes8814
    @alfredomenezes8814 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    This video is amazing, the amount of information condensed in a little time is awesome and helps a lot to learn

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thank you so much! Make sure to read the source article I'm referencing, and do check out my previous 3 videos on the magic of Rust!

  • @frroossst4267
    @frroossst4267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I started learning Rust and then sorta gave up and just picked it back up only after rewatching your previous videos on Rust for motivation, this was perfect, thanks!

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My friend, this warms my heart. My EXACT REASON for making these videos is because Rust was so hard for me to learn. I crashed out a few times, and only was able to get through it because I had a mentor helping me through it. I am hoping people can re-watch my videos for a boost!

    • @frroossst4267
      @frroossst4267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NoBoilerplate Your videos are short but highly technical, usually there is a trade off between length and technical depth. For me personally it provides that quick motivation from a shorter video and gets my curiosity going because of the depth. I had seen the impl keywords but didnt know what they did in that short span where you explained tham, I opened up a temrinal and messed around with the impls. Keep them coming! You're doing a fantastic job

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@frroossst4267 Well you're so kind, thank you!

  • @EricKolotyluk
    @EricKolotyluk ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Until now, I only had a casual interest in Rush, but your short introduction was exactly what I needed to become more interested. Well done!

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wonderful! I am delighted. Do watch my other videos (especially Rust is Boring) to get excited about WHY we are learning this complex language . The rust book is great too!

  • @theowenmccarthy
    @theowenmccarthy ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This video is amazing, I wish there were more resources like this with programming

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Owen! Thank you so much, you're so generous - but there IS another resource for rust: please do visit fasterthanli.me where the source of this video is taken from. Amos does SUCH great work on his site, he makes videos too, but his articles on Rust basically TAUGHT me the language!
      Thank you again :-)

    • @theowenmccarthy
      @theowenmccarthy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NoBoilerplate I absolutely will! This is a great resource for people picking up the language. It can be hard to do that initial read-through of the rust book without your eyes glazing over a bit when you don't have the full context about why certain features can be useful or if the language is right for you. Being able to get a super quick set of examples like this showing how rust code works and some of the features is incredibly helpful as a primer for the rust book.

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theowenmccarthy Yeah! Agreed there, you saw my recommendations? th-cam.com/video/2hXNd6x9sZs/w-d-xo.html

    • @theowenmccarthy
      @theowenmccarthy ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NoBoilerplate Absolutely, I am following along! Thanks so much for your amazing explanations

  • @nekroido1069
    @nekroido1069 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm happy to learn that my F# algorithms can be ported to Rust with just some minor syntax adjustments. Immutability by default, Ok/Error constructs, optional types, lazy expression evaluation, type inference, etc. And it's even possible to bring partial application and JSON type providers with 3rd-party packages, aka "crates"! From "I wonder what's the hype about" to "I should def try Rust out" in just 10 minutes.

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  ปีที่แล้ว

      oh you're gonna LOVE it. Yes, the `partial` crate is a vital part of my workflow! I think they snuck the best of haskell and the best of lisp into the cool kids party, wearing C's clothes!

  • @sodiboo
    @sodiboo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    3:04 void is very C-ish. Verbally "void" is... acceptable, but the top function here does not return "void". The type is actually called "unit" and written with the empty parens (). Just writing the notation correctly would be fine imo, but this should've had a short note that the top function is equivalent to -> () and explain that "unit" is just the empty tuple and has one value, and not some special type without any values used to denote no return value

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Thank you! I have added this to the ERRATA pinned comment.

    • @clonkex
      @clonkex ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe, but I'd hazard a guess that the vast majority of programmers understand "returns void" as "returns nothing". C, C++, C#, Java and Typescript are all extremely common and well known languages so it's totally reasonable to use their terminology even if it's not technically correct for Rust (because ultimately it has the same effect).

  • @gimlam5909
    @gimlam5909 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the video and reference, it's immensely helpful to anyone who wants not to program in Rust but sees that working with programs written in Rust is the unavoidable future.

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you're going to have to do it, you might as well enjoy it!
      (check my previous 3 videos to find out about the enjoyable features!)

    • @gimlam5909
      @gimlam5909 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NoBoilerplate Sure thing! I do like the language and the feel of it, and really enjoy Helix, nushell, Redox and whatnot, but it wouldn't benefit me to write in it more than in it would to write in Nim (which I'm already learning as I've found it most versatile on top of also being fast and safe). So yeah, I'll surely take pleasure in learning at least to read, understand and interface with Rust.
      PSst, my favourite language-in-the-making's compiler is actually being written in Rust! Can you figure which one that's gonna be?

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gimlam5909 Love Nim. My only concern is popularity, which in the software development world is a HUGE factor that I can't ignore. If I were to ignore popularity, I'd probably have written these vidoes about Haskell, which I love, but I can't hire for.

  • @omarezzat
    @omarezzat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Perfect intro. Just researching rust for a project and all other short videos are superficial or extremely long.
    Keep up the good work up!

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've got 9 other videos on Rust just like this one, check them out!

  • @PurplProto
    @PurplProto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I started on this video and had to go back and watch the previous 3 videos of the Rust Talks playlist. Excelant information throughout and very worth while the time it took to watch them, certainly no second wasted, I like that.
    I need more of this straight to the point, no BS technical talk that also explains everything you're seeing in code snippets. I've tried other videos before finding these, but they always gloss over small things like the difference between the tail expression of a function lacking a semicolon and explicitly returning a value from it, in which I now know there is no difference. I always get sidetracked by the little things which hampers my learning and causes frustration because I don't understand a bit that wasn't clear to me and therefore can't move on, yet the video is usually miles away from that topic by that point.
    I've learned more in this 10 mins than I did in a couple of days of watching various videos, reading the Docs (which seem great once you understand half of what you're reading 😂) and experimenting with code. I now know to make great use of struts and matching, and that iterators exist which is something I'm already quite familiar with in other higher level languages. This is my first deep dive into a low level language and you've certainly made it a much more pleasant start than I could have asked for. I look forward to more videos, thank you!

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My absolute pleasure. Try:
      - The Rust Book (link in the description
      - Rust By Example
      - Rustlings (code katas)
      - everything fasterthanli.me has written!

  • @calebdeming5515
    @calebdeming5515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Very helpful content. I can’t even state how much I appreciate this format. Please make more high speed basics videos for rust. Or whatever. I’ll watch.

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much! I will. Video 11 (of this new format) arriving on Thursday. I may soon add another video, making my videos weekly, not on Rust, but on other interesting technical topics. Stay tuned!

  • @jhirn2957
    @jhirn2957 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The correct adjective for this presentation is Gangster. I just had to listen to rules i agree or disagree with and take it. But there weren’t any opinions on the rule. That’s just what it does when it do what it do. Feelings to your self g. This just is what it is. I love it so much.

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you! I have a few more videos on Rust, if interested! Here's a good place to start: th-cam.com/video/oY0XwMOSzq4/w-d-xo.html

    • @jhirn2957
      @jhirn2957 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@NoBoilerplate ha. Must have been tipsy when I left that comment. What can I say? I love code so much I watch videos on languages I don’t use when intoxicated for fun.
      Glad my dubiously professional grammar didn’t miss the target.

  • @Jianju69
    @Jianju69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great stuff to try and absorb whilst multitasking.

  • @foxy_robin
    @foxy_robin 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for not dragging this out. I learn much easier at this speed.

  • @JoeEnos
    @JoeEnos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is amazing! Exactly what I wanted to see for an intro to the language.

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! Do check out my other videos in my Rust series!

  • @thefluentone
    @thefluentone ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful. I've mostly ignored rust as at work we are so c and c++ heavy. Seeing this made me think a lot of the Swift updates over the years and I can see how Swift is influenced by Rust. Thanks again for this video as it is exactly what I need.

  • @nextentrepreneur9288
    @nextentrepreneur9288 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    3:16 Actually Javascript also has a block statement so the analogy with IIFE wasn't needed

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Every day's a school day! Yes, another commenter pointed this out, that's great news. I already use `const`s exclusively in my js, it's wonderful to know they're even safer than I thought!

  • @jonathancederlund1203
    @jonathancederlund1203 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing! Exactly What I have been looking for. Short and concise but covers some of the most basic parts to be able to write some code.

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it helped! Do read the article I based it on, it's even better! fasterthanli.me/articles/a-half-hour-to-learn-rust

  • @sumansaha295
    @sumansaha295 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There's low demand for rust right now but I hope there will be. The language and tooling is excellent! I find that one can significantly cut down cloud computing and upkeep costs if they switch to rust. It's good for the environment as well. AWS has started to support more rust so I think we'll find more demand for rust soon.

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely! I said similar things in my previous videos!

    • @kevinmcfarlane2752
      @kevinmcfarlane2752 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most of the Big Tech companies are in the Rust Foundation, so I would expect It to grow significantly over the next few years. WebAssembly may prove another sweet spot for high-perf applications in the browser client.

  • @muizzsiddique
    @muizzsiddique ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm on Chapter 07 of The Book and this has been an almost perfect summary of what was taught.

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      All credit to Amos for the original article!

  • @guilhermerodovalho9988
    @guilhermerodovalho9988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great to see your channel growing so much in so little time (since you became talking about Rust)

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you so much! I'm having a great time writing these, and it's really helping solidify my own Rust knowledge (not least because when I make mistakes, people correct me!)

  • @Rayer24
    @Rayer24 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started learning Rust yesterday evening using "the book" and 2 minutes in this video I'm like "hey I know this! And that too!" Very cool

  • @xxedgelord420xx4
    @xxedgelord420xx4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Rust is like the best parts of C++ and JS combined.

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It's WAY more than that!
      I tell people that Rust snuck the best parts of Lisp and Haskell, into the cool kids party in Lisp's clothing!

  • @sky-xk5be
    @sky-xk5be 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got so interested in learning Rust because of your videos. going to develop Rust Backend service. thanks for inspiring me!

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is music to my ears! My entire goal is to nudge the dial of Rust's adoption. Good luck, and come and join us on Discord if you get stuck!

  • @khalilgammar924
    @khalilgammar924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You've actually got so quality stuff on your channel. Keep that up man!

  • @AndrewSmithDev
    @AndrewSmithDev 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People have been praising Rust for years. After watching your video I finally want to try it. This language seems great

  • @dafedidi
    @dafedidi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    Very small correction : on most platform, long has 8 bytes, while int has 4 bytes in C and C++. Thus i32 refers to int or int32_t if you want to be really exact.
    Other than that, excellent video.

    • @CryZe92
      @CryZe92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      > int has 4 bytes in C and C++
      Also incorrect. int is defined to be at least 16-bit whereas long is defined to be at least 32-bit. So while int is indeed 4 bytes on a lot of platforms, the standard doesn't define it that way.

    • @zperk13
      @zperk13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I could be wrong, but I don't think that's the case. In Java, you would be right, int is 4 bytes, long is 8 bytes.
      In C/C++ though, long is 4 bytes, long long is 8 bytes, and int is determined by your architecture. If you're on a 32 bit computer, int is 32 bits aka 4 bytes. On a 64 bit computer, int is 64 bits aka 8 bytes. If you're somehow on a 8 bit computer, int is 8 bits aka 1 byte.
      The architecture thing is also like isize/usize in Rust

    • @CryZe92
      @CryZe92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@zperk13 I don't think I can link anything here, but let me quote Wikipedia here:
      > The minimum size for char is 8 bits, the minimum size for short and int is 16 bits, for long it is 32 bits and long long must contain at least 64 bits.
      You can also find these in the actual C standard here: 5.2.4.2.1 Sizes of integer types

    • @jose6183
      @jose6183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@zperk13 yes, this is the case on many embedded systems. There are lots of things like memory alignment and specialized instructions that are system compiler specific and make these subtle things like data type sizes a bit complex. It all comes down to the computer architecture.

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Wow I feel better for getting this wrong - what complexity! You folks seem like you might know the answer to this: Is i64 faster than i32 on typical desktop 64-bit system? Another commenter said this. If so, maybe I should recommend i64s?

  • @RebelliousX
    @RebelliousX ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In C/C++, the semicolon is not a mandatory white space, it is a statement of itself, which can be compiled into a NOP (no operand) instruction when needed, it is upto the compiler to do so or not due to compiler optimizations. Think of an empty for or while loops that do nothing, based on C/C++ language specifications, they require at least 1 statement, if none is needed, an empty statement can be used, a semicolon. 👍🏻

  • @trentbillington1093
    @trentbillington1093 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This is so good, I'll be sending this to anyone who asks about rust! Have you thought of part 2 for things like lifetimes and the ecosystem (crates,cargo,docs,test)?

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thank you! That's a great idea!

  • @moereza6321
    @moereza6321 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks to Amos for writing this, and many thanks to you for representing it clearly and beautifuly..

  • @workchannel3355
    @workchannel3355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    you are not like the others who puts link filled with adds, so u deserve to be subscribed..... thanks for the plugin and all the best for future

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much for you kind words. I don't know if I will do ads in the future, something on-topic in the middle of the video that is relevant to my audience perhaps. I suspect I could do more videos if I was sponsored - but I also find ads annoying! I'd love to know your opinion here, and thank you again.

  • @joranmulderij
    @joranmulderij 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is absolutely amazing! Thank you for making this for everyone who needs it.

  • @owo2528
    @owo2528 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Set the playback speed to 2x and it'd be 5 minutes instead of 10

    • @xt3rm1nat0r8
      @xt3rm1nat0r8 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      These videos are for people like us 😂

    • @mystifoxtech
      @mystifoxtech 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      learning rust in 5 minutes frfr

    • @ArthurKhachaturov
      @ArthurKhachaturov 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've literally just watched it like that lol

  • @kashishpatel4543
    @kashishpatel4543 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I didn't understand everything completely, but its really nice to have an overall idea of what i should expect in my learning, journey. This type of content is as helpful as a detailed video, i hope you keep making these type of videos. Good job and thank you so much

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My pleasure! Do check out the other videos my Rust series, there's lots of exciting features!

  • @ziyadkader6767
    @ziyadkader6767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video ! but we need a part 2 : lifetimes, differences between String and str and traits

  • @haze5638
    @haze5638 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I haven't played rust in a long time, it changes so much

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  ปีที่แล้ว

      hehe, I also have this confusion when I google for things like 'rust crates' 'rust newbie advice'!

  • @CunningBard
    @CunningBard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    tuples were weird for me because python tuples are immutable but rust tuples are mutable, but man tuples are powerful, its like a struct but without needing to make one

    • @climatechangedoesntbargain9140
      @climatechangedoesntbargain9140 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's your most valuable use case for tuples?

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Python calls structs Named Tuples - I think naming the elements is way more useful. I don't use tuples very often, not for big work any way!

    • @climatechangedoesntbargain9140
      @climatechangedoesntbargain9140 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NoBoilerplate I think so, too.
      Go relies a lot on Tuples since it doesn't have enums.
      After thinking more about it, I mainly use tuples when wrapping a type (New Type pattern afaik)

    • @CunningBard
      @CunningBard 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I usually use tuples for returning more than 1 thing

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@CunningBard Yeah, a pair of things is often OK for a tuple. In Rust, I find I'd rather name it and call it a Struct so that I know what KIND of paired data I'm working with. Javascript has made me afraid of anonymous blobs of data

  • @spectator5144
    @spectator5144 ปีที่แล้ว

    halfway thorugh the book, rust is really amazing. so modern and fun, programmed a lot of stuff with it that i did to learn the classic languages 10 years ago, just for fun. it is so much fun to use

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  ปีที่แล้ว

      You're gonna have a great time!

  • @VixieTSQ
    @VixieTSQ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I usually default to u32. With what I code at least, I find that you actually very rarely encounter negative numbers

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Seems reasonable to me, though some people might find the wrapping on negative behaviour surprising?

  • @UnloyalGames
    @UnloyalGames 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very nice! I have a few coworkers that are trying to learn Rust after I have been praising it for a year. This will likely remove the "I don't have enough time to start it" excuse!

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amazing! Do give them the linked article that I based the video on - I know some people prefer reading (and copy and pasting!) rather than a video.
      Also, make sure you've seen my previous 3 videos on Rust - they're about the incredible features of Rust that you can't get anywhere else!

  • @glennwilkinson8663
    @glennwilkinson8663 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is how tutorials should be; short, punchy, dense with useful information 💯

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! All my videos are like this, here's another in the playlist if you've not seen it, I'd love to know what you think: th-cam.com/video/sbVxq7nNtgo/w-d-xo.html

    • @waynemv
      @waynemv ปีที่แล้ว

      I also like the short and dense format, although I felt there were places where the examples were confusing for beginners and a bit more explanation would have been very beneficial. For example, I wish the video had explained what |c| meant.

  • @alijahbowen220
    @alijahbowen220 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much Sensei! You are a blessing!

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Keep climbing the mountain, go train with Amos! fasterthanli.me

  • @Chalisque
    @Chalisque 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I feel that rust is one of those languages where you need a knowledgeable mentor in the early days. I had a go at writing sha256sum in rust, and there was a lot of head-scratching and digging around to find out how to do things. Whereas in Python and C it was relatively straightforward. I say mentor because, when writing 'worked examples', you're guessing what the novice programmer wants to write. But rather, you need to start with a novice programmer who knows what they want to write, and then guide them as to how to write it in Rust.

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You've got it exactly right. Back in 2020 I crashed out of learning Rust twice. First time due to multiple string types (haskell's biggest mistake made again, I thought to myself) and second due to lifetimes. At the time I had a great mentor (Shout-out to Alex!) who picked me up and helped me back on the path. Most people don't have this. They need the excitement of my hype videos to break through.
      I will eventually run out of hype topics and move on to slightly more detail. But first, there's a few million developers I want to send to rustup.rs!

    • @sa1t938
      @sa1t938 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NoBoilerplate I've been learning rust recently, and chatgpt has been a great mentor. If I'm getting an error I can't make sense of, I can copy paste the offending piece of code and the error message, and like 80% of the time it tells me why it doesn't work. I still have to rely on traditional methods for the other 20%, but it greatly reduces the amount of head scratching I go through. It's been a bit of a challenge though, since nearly all of my experience is in C# and Python. I've never used a low level language before, so the learning the intricacies of low level + the intricacies of rust simultaneously has been challenging. I've come pretty far though!

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sa1t938 oooh that's INTERESTING! I'm in deep with chatgpt, and I'm SUPER excited and scared for what 2023 is going to be like, with this tech revolutionising every single field!

    • @Evan490BC
      @Evan490BC ปีที่แล้ว

      I find writing C unbearable. Too low level, too much UB and too little abstraction facilities, unless you (ab)use the preprocessor. C++ is kind of OK but a real beast to tame...

  • @ShiloBuff
    @ShiloBuff 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is an amazing runthrough. I would love more tutorials liek this. So much value in 10 mins.

  • @detaaditya6237
    @detaaditya6237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow, I never thought Rust has a lot of functional programming language features. I'm interested now

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right! Do look at my previous 3 videos for more astonishing features you'd never have imagined!

    • @robbietorkelsonn8509
      @robbietorkelsonn8509 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      why not .. seems like everyone one youtube wants to go back to the 1960"s

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robbietorkelsonn8509 It's becoming clear that the Object Orientation experiment has not been a wild success. Note that Reactjs and those like it use a functional reactive paradigm!

  • @andredasilva6807
    @andredasilva6807 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Found your channel a couple of months ago. Love the rust videos. They inspired me to look more into the language and its awesome. Please keep those amazing vids coming

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thabk you so much! I will 😁

  • @sodiboo
    @sodiboo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:23 well except for wildcard imports ``use std::*;`` and the prelude items (including importing crates, ``std`` is available despite not declaring ``extern crate std;``)

  • @cemkose2635
    @cemkose2635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So I went into soft soft and tried to intuitively grasp the basic fundantals. And now listening back I feel like I'm one step ahead of Nice tutorialm.

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Do read the source tutorial, there's even more detail there

    • @cemkose2635
      @cemkose2635 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Şifremi değiştirmeyeceğim

  • @bokutokoutarou
    @bokutokoutarou 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i was looking for this
    thank you for making this video if possible please make a series of tutorial for rust for the people who already know some programming language

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My pleasure! Read the original article too 😁

    • @bokutokoutarou
      @bokutokoutarou 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NoBoilerplate yes i will but i prefer video lectures over articles and documentation

  • @stanislasplow476
    @stanislasplow476 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This language takes many incredible things from OCaml.
    Very good !

  • @raffimolero64
    @raffimolero64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    3:04 - I wouldn't write "f -> void" if i were you. I'd use the proper type, "fn() or fn() -> ()" for consistency, and further explain that "() is a struct with no values. it is a unit struct, because it can only have one state; existing. it means void.".

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Errata pinned comment updated 👌

  • @AceofSpades5757
    @AceofSpades5757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was a well-done overview for some of Rust's features.

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All credit to Amos for the original article, there's about 50% more on it, link in the description. All of his articles are INCREDIBLE!

  • @harrytsang1501
    @harrytsang1501 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I liked the idea of rust but have no experience with it
    I loved when I used functional features like match case and expression instead of return in Scala
    This video makes so much sense, thank you. I like Rust now, just need to convince the boss typescript isn't the answer to everything

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Typescript is certainly 100x better than plain Javascript! But yes, ideally you'd get some rust in.
      Have you seen my previous videos? The "perfect" and "genius" videos might persuade your boss :-)

    • @StellaEFZ
      @StellaEFZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your boss is right, if you're working with web development

  • @Sefree6
    @Sefree6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm a massive fan of getting straight to the point and getting rid of boilerplate, great video and style!

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much! Did you see my previous 3 rust videos? They're even FASTER!

  • @tordjarv3802
    @tordjarv3802 2 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    You avoided the single most confusing part of Rust that is the most different from other languages: the borrow system and lifetime annotations

    • @someonestolemyname
      @someonestolemyname 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Literally the point I hit the roadblock, its like the language is constantly trying to throw away everything you see unless you explicitly state that you need to keep it.

    • @Anon.G
      @Anon.G 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      The borrow system is literally just pointers/references from any other language + a few safety restrictions.

    • @klittlet
      @klittlet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@someonestolemyname that's literally what it does. are you perhaps a undergrad or hobbyist?

    • @theroboman727
      @theroboman727 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@someonestolemyname what? That sounds like you gave up after 5-10 minutes of messing with references and move semantics, and never got used to it to see if it actually makes sense or not.

    • @tordjarv3802
      @tordjarv3802 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Anon.G and those safety restrictions means that you might end up in situations where you think it should work, because it would work in all other languages that you know, but it doesn't in Rust. This is even more confusing when you start composing your own types with structs and enums and they might contain (directly or indirectly) references and you need to be careful to place out all the lifetime annotations correctly. Furthermore, when you start including traits and heap allocations in to the mix then it can become a nightmare compared to other languages. Have you ever implemented a factory pattern in Rust? It took me over a day to figure out why my factories had to be singeltons for the borrow checker and lifetime checker to be happy.

  • @BohumirZamecnik
    @BohumirZamecnik 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you! Rust feels quite familiar, flavors of Haskell, Scala, and C. I believe it might be a pleasure to work with. 🎉

  • @Consul99
    @Consul99 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I usually run videos on 1.5x speed. This was a mistake.

  • @zmirc
    @zmirc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Respect! Short and to the point

  • @wege8409
    @wege8409 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Did I just join a cult

    • @gSys1337
      @gSys1337 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You just witnessed truth

  • @thestemgamer3346
    @thestemgamer3346 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is probably one of the best introductions to Rust out there 👍

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's because I based it on the best blog introducing Rust :-D
      I send people my previous video on rust as the best introduction I could make: th-cam.com/video/IA4q0lzmyfM/w-d-xo.html&

  • @progste
    @progste ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As a top tier impatient I am very displeased that 49 seconds into the video you haven't yet moved to the main topic!

  • @vanyvanov
    @vanyvanov 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    as a typescript dev, i finally grasped the purpose of generics from the feeling of freedom that i sensed from the voice at 5:43

  • @Imperial_Squid
    @Imperial_Squid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Coming from the world of python, rust is an entirely different way of doing things but I kinda like it 😁

    • @-parrrate
      @-parrrate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      * cherry picking time *
      python: uses self notation, self is passed as an argument
      rust: uses self notation, self is passed as an argument
      python: has Self type (3.11)
      rust: has Self type
      python: has lambdas
      rust: has lambdas
      python: has match statement (3.10)
      rust: has match expression
      python: has async-await
      rust: has async-await
      python: supports custom event loops (things that execute async), unlike JS
      rust: supports custom event loops
      python: built-in C interface (as CPython is the most popular Python implementation)
      rust: built-in C interface
      python: has context management ( __ exit __ )
      rust: has context management (Drop)
      python: supports b"bytes" syntax
      rust: supports b"bytes" syntax
      python: native support for AST modification (ast module)
      rust: native support for AST modification (procedural macros)
      python: has _
      rust: has _

    • @Imperial_Squid
      @Imperial_Squid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@-parrrate counterpoints:
      a) I have dabbled in other languages for fun/uni but only really properly know python
      b) I barely know anything about rust (have never actually coded in it myself, only heard good things from friends) (but cool to know it has all those things too)
      c) it's a throw away comment on a yt video, I don't have the time or will to research everything I say 100%
      d) (not really a counterpoint) you mean nitpicking not cherry picking I think? Nitpicking is pointing out little flaws in something, cherry picking is deliberately excluding points that don't fit your arguement. (Tbf you can do both I guess but saying you're cherry picking a) doesn't fit and b) implicitly weakens your arguement)

    • @nicholasfitzgerald6209
      @nicholasfitzgerald6209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@-parrrate It's still very valid to say that Rust is a different way of thinking lmao. I've used Python and JS a fair bit and even with TS, I've still not had to worry about the particulars of `str` vs `String` or borrowing or ownership at all. There's a reason why the "higher level" languages are often used more by beginners.

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Rust and python make good choices about many things. I've used python professionally for 15 years, but it's time to move on. The GIL is terrible for python's concurrency, and it benchmarks 80x slower than rust in single threaded tests.
      Python's ast does runtime modification, macros are compile time modification - a very different beast.

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I've been writing python professionally for 15 years, and I think it's time for me to move on.
      Rust was just familiar enough for me to learn, but it took me a while. That's why I'm making these videos, do watch the others!

  • @practicalsoftwaremarcus
    @practicalsoftwaremarcus 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video!! Thanks for the primer.
    At 1:56, C does not crash.. it is undefined behaviour!

  • @chrs-wltrs
    @chrs-wltrs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would be very interested to get your take on Vlang and Zig, two languages that seem to be vying for a similar space as Rust. All three are meant to be extremely performant by ditching a Garbage Collector, but similarly avoid the gaping pitfalls of manual memory management.
    Of course, in most situations, it's not really accurate to say "X language is the best, objectively better than Y language."
    I personally lack the experience to do a full breakdown of what each language offers to the developer, which projects benefit the most from each language's best features, and so on.

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      oh COOL! I'd not read up on Vlang. Looks like a great little low-level language inspired by Go. HOWEVER it has a GC, which means I can already tell many things about the language:
      - No embedded development
      - Can't write linux modules
      - Imperfect for hard realtime applications (music, flight control software, ETL pipelines)
      - No borrow checker superpowers
      I wonder who this is for? A Go developer wanting lower-level code? Then why does it also have a GC? Hmm. Cute though!
      Zig I love - huge huge fan. It really helps you manage memory in a sane way, and the whole language has no surprises. But the kicker is you still must do it, and you might forget. Zig is certainly a better C, but they didn't try to push the envelope.
      Rust's lifetime annotations and borrow checker are a FEATURE, not a burden. A rich type system is great, but if you add lifetimes to the types, you've enriched them in ways that don't just mean the compiler can manage memory for you - you can build your own types with complex temporal logic in.
      One day I'll do a video on this XD

    • @chrs-wltrs
      @chrs-wltrs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NoBoilerplate *Interesting!* I'd come across some performance benchmarks where Vlang would actually beat out Rust, and I found no mention of a GC, so I just kind of assumed there wasn't one. Impressive for them to reach that kind of performance with a GC, even if it's not really swinging for the same ball park.
      And I'd be very interested to see that video 😁

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrs-wltrs I admit I didn't get further than the front page, where they mention it! Apparently there's a new mechanism that can statically free 90% of memory cases, leaving the last 10% for GC.
      While that is terrific, I am left wondering how much time they're going to invest in an imperfect solution XD
      As for performance, Rust benchmarks in 1.1x C's speed (Java and JS are 4, Ruby is 20 and Python is 80). So while I can believe it, rust is fast enough!

  • @aligohar1708
    @aligohar1708 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for making me not waste my time too much on docs and on lazy tutorials👍👍👍

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  ปีที่แล้ว

      My pleasure! All credit to Amos, the author of the article I based the video on fasterthanli.me/articles/a-half-hour-to-learn-rust

    • @aligohar1708
      @aligohar1708 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NoBoilerplate legend

  • @TegridyMadeGames
    @TegridyMadeGames 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    too long should be 5min

    • @connormc711
      @connormc711 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Welcome to the rust community :) if you want a concise language may I suggest another

    • @TegridyMadeGames
      @TegridyMadeGames 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@connormc711 I'm too impatient to do that

    • @connormc711
      @connormc711 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TegridyMadeGames you should practice patients I have found it too be more helpful than any tutorial

    • @TegridyMadeGames
      @TegridyMadeGames 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@connormc711 can you summarize that sentence? Too long to read.

    • @SetOfAllSets
      @SetOfAllSets 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      watch on 2x speed

  • @lxdixd
    @lxdixd ปีที่แล้ว +1

    planning on making the inverse for the videogame rust 😁
    very cool video! i love that you respect the viewer

  • @zyansheep
    @zyansheep 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    3:09 technically it returns the unit type, i.e. ()

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh yes! Thank you for the correction!

  • @JonathanTheZombie
    @JonathanTheZombie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve been learning the LanguageExt library for C# for a year, and Rust is the language of my dreams.

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh fun! I used to love the `fn.py` extensions for the same reasons!
      Rust's really got it all, and probably a few features you didn't know you wanted! Have you seen this video of mine? th-cam.com/video/PuMXWc0xrK0/w-d-xo.html

    • @JonathanTheZombie
      @JonathanTheZombie ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NoBoilerplate I’ll definitely watch all of them. Keep up the good work! As a senior engineer, the level of your videos is perfect for me to quickly learn new concepts without the hello world BS.

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JonathanTheZombie Thank you so much! I'm very glad to hear it 🙂

  • @climatechangedoesntbargain9140
    @climatechangedoesntbargain9140 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    On my CPU (i7 930), 64 bit numbers are significantly faster than 32 bit numbers. Surprised me a bit

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Oh wow! I mean... All modern cpus are 64 bit, might they be faster for all? BENCHMARKS NEEDED!

    • @mariocamspam72
      @mariocamspam72 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It depends, some machine code generated by MSVC (and others) for x86 regarding i64 operations is inefficient and improperly considers microcode implementations

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mariocamspam72 Interesting! something for users of the `windows` crate, on legacy hardware!

  • @edgeeffect
    @edgeeffect 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Be nice to hear you talk about closures... I love a nice closure.

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm game! What would you want to hear?

    • @edgeeffect
      @edgeeffect 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NoBoilerplate I'm not sure... I'm still just "Rust curious"... I've compiled once and had a fight with the borrow checker.... I know closures from JS and I say to people who like to use JS like it has classes "no... closures are beautiful".... I'm currently doing some Kotlin (more because I need an Android app than any specific desire for Kotlin) and I'm looking forward to my first closure there. I've got an embedded project on the horizon that would be nice to do in Rust..... but I'm still only "Rust curious" at the moment... I wonder if Antartica speaks Rust?

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@edgeeffect Rust has both first class functions and higher-kinded functions, you'll find just the functionality you want!
      Nice LT reference! In my mind, though I don't mention it too much in the show, AIs are written in LISP, and speak native Lojban (pronounceable mathematics, look it up!)

  • @ZangiefNoob
    @ZangiefNoob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This video is not about Rust, the videogame... Oh well, I learnt stuff.

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Surprise! I feel your pain the other way - it's very difficult to google for Rust language stuff without getting Rust game results XD

  • @0xDEAD_Inside
    @0xDEAD_Inside ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am very thankful for programming languages like rust. I am always paranoid with C/C++ for memory management and preventing segfaults that I hardly use them and made my career in Python. With rust, it seems like one has best of all worlds.

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We're on exactly the same path, friend. I've been a python web dev for 15 years, keeping away from C++ out of fear.
      I feel like I could write robotics code for NASA now, no problem!

    • @matyasmarkkovacs8336
      @matyasmarkkovacs8336 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, Python is for different tasks.
      If you want to make efficient applications, or want to get into low level programming, it's essential to understand how C and the the computer works on low level.
      It's not that scary.

    • @0xDEAD_Inside
      @0xDEAD_Inside ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matyasmarkkovacs8336 Ya C/C++ is not scary if you are accustomed to it. But that's it. There would always be segfaults and undefined behaviour hiding in the corners.
      I used one legacy (10 yrs old) C++ framework in a project which was developed and tested with gcc 4.8.5. Compiling it with gcc 4.8 gives no error but gcc12 says there are 2 UB in the framework with empty string check and it segfaults when run in debug mode. These kinds of problems are what rust is designed for. The core libs are rock stable and the same code is guaranteed to compile in the next 10-20 years. Though their slogan is for the next 40 years.

  • @__8120
    @__8120 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This feels like c++ and python had a weird baby and then JavaScript adopted it. The strange mixes of syntax make me uncomfortable lmao

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  ปีที่แล้ว

      Let me set the record straight: It's LISP and Haskell sneaking into the popular kids party wearing C's coat.
      Try out th-cam.com/video/4dvf6kM70qM/w-d-xo.html next and let me know what you think!

    • @__8120
      @__8120 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NoBoilerplate sorry, not raised by JavaScript, raised by wolves lol

  • @thetilo8682
    @thetilo8682 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    expressions vs statements could be also explained as follows: the semicolon in Rust separates statements. The last statement returns the value. If there is no last statement after the last semicolon, there is no return value (void)

  • @ЭнрикеЧурин
    @ЭнрикеЧурин 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That's a very useful video, although, I didn't understand most of it, lmao. At least now I will go to the rust book and read it all, because what you showed is peeking my interest a lot

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm so pleased! Have you seen my previous videos? They give an overview of rust. Definitely try the book!

    • @ЭнрикеЧурин
      @ЭнрикеЧурин 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NoBoilerplate Yes, I watched every of your Rust related videos and really enjoyed them, that is why I got recommended this video. Thanks so much for making them btw

  • @AustinTChalk
    @AustinTChalk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's taking me a whole week to get through this video!

  • @juice2
    @juice2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My only question is what does the & prefix do in arguments and parameter types and when should I use it?

    • @xxedgelord420xx4
      @xxedgelord420xx4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that means you're passing the argument by immutable reference. you should always do it if you don't want to change the value in place

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Take a look at my previous video "Rust makes you feel like a Genius" for an explanation of the borrowing system. It's simple, but unfamiliar.

    • @KohuGaly
      @KohuGaly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It means the function receives read-only access to the argument. It's called immutable reference. There's also &mut which takes write access. Without any prefix, the argument is taken by value, which means the function consumes it (unless the type is Copy, in which case a bitwise copy is passed in).

  • @martinmajewski
    @martinmajewski 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Talking nearly 10% of the video’s duration about how this video is boilerplate-free and straight to the point! That’s exactly my type of humor! 😂 Great video, though! 😊

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! Do try my more recent rust videos too,

  • @SimGunther
    @SimGunther 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    On one hand, the compiler being this pedantic over almost all the things is fantastic since most "throw away code" is something you actually NEED to throw away and some crude prototyping can happen during compile time instead of runtime.
    On the other hand, I think you can make some specialized logic based reprap that creates stubs and fake integrations before you move onto creating the "official integration" in some other language that maybe less concerned with some forms of errors that _may_ be caught in Rust before deployment. At least you won't have to deal with the type signatures made famous in that "American Psycho" business card parody of Rust functions from theSTEMgamer XD

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could you explain a little more?

    • @SimGunther
      @SimGunther 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you can create a lambda calculus in Prolog, you can also create dependent types in this language.
      maybe_fopen(_, _, -1, invalidFile(E)) :-
      E = 'Could not open file'.
      maybe_fopen(PATH, FLAGS, FD, RESULT) :-
      ((string(PATH), string(FLAGS)) ->
      (integer(FD) ->
      RESULT = validFile([PATH, FLAGS, FD]);
      RESULT = invalidFopenReturn('File descriptor must be integer != -1'));
      RESULT = invalidFopenArgs('Path and Flags must be strings')).
      When you query for the result of this call like:
      ?- maybe_fopen("/tmp/foobar", 36, -1, R), print(R).
      You now get ALL the possible ways this specific function call with these specific arguments can fail, including the -1 file descriptor AND the invalid argument types.
      I'd say Prolog and similar constraint solvers in the logic programming space are one of the better tools for high level blueprint coding that can also be interactive since prolog can import and run these scripts inside of a REPL. This might be a great starter for automatically generated tests with functions/predicates in this kind of dependently typed domain, since it's cheaper to change the code up front at design time rather than review/production release time.
      Jarble's transpiler on github and Warren's abstract prolog machine would be great study materials if you're more interested in the topic.

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SimGunther That is very cool! Thank you

  • @zoetje9817
    @zoetje9817 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How do you not have more subscribers?

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You're too kind! But I'm not sure i deserve the ones I have! It's incredible!

    • @Imperial_Squid
      @Imperial_Squid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NoBoilerplate between these videos and Lost Terminal, allow me to politely but strongly disagree, you deserve all these subscribers and more!
      Humility is a great thing but don't down play your good work unnecessarily either 😊😊

    • @zoetje9817
      @zoetje9817 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NoBoilerplate
      Well, you seem really quite skilled at condensing complicated topics down to understandable, short videos. The closest example I can think of would be Fireship or (, though it’s not on the same topic,) CGP Grey. For reference, they have 1,4M and 5,43M subscribers respectively.
      Until you have at least a hundred thousand, I’d consider you underrated.

  • @DynamicalisBlue
    @DynamicalisBlue 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    As a C++/C# dev, I was understanding it fairly well till you got to the error handling part. That’s gonna take me some time to understand fully.

  • @WalterWoshid
    @WalterWoshid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm trying to create a programming language and I can't decide between using c++ or rust. I've tried doing some stuff in both, but it was a little difficult to do what I wanted with rust. No classes, can't assign references in structs without destroying the code with lifetimes and had many other problems while learning rust

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rust is certainly more difficult to learn, but it is WORTH IT! Have you watched my other videos on rust? In them I explain the unique features that you won't find anywhere else.

    • @beaver_stealer
      @beaver_stealer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're trying to create a programming language?

    • @KohuGaly
      @KohuGaly 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, this is typical experience when starting to learn Rust, particularly for people coming from OOP. Rust is not the kind of language where you learn to translate syntax from language X, and you're good to go writing your code in whatever style you like. Rust has its own "coding paradigm", that's somewhere in between functional, OOP and imperative.
      You tried to do some stuff in Rust, and it was difficult to do what you wanted, THE WAY YOU WANTED TO DO IT! That's the problem.
      It took me about a year to learn the "Rust way of doing things". Unfortunately, I still can't fully explain what that is exactly. Especially not in a single youtube comment. People describe it as "becoming friends with the borrow checker", but never really describe how to get there.

    • @WalterWoshid
      @WalterWoshid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@NoBoilerplate Of course I did. That's why I decided to learn it :)
      It is great because you can make no mistakes in your runtime because of rust if you use it the right way, it will have a difficult learning curve because of that, but like you say: it's worth it.

    • @WalterWoshid
      @WalterWoshid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KohuGaly A year of learning is too extreme for me. I think I can learn it quicker, thanks to modern IDEs, but if it's worth in the long run, that's another question

  • @madao4024
    @madao4024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you made me fall in love with rust within the first 5 mins

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  ปีที่แล้ว

      The same thing happened to me when I read the article this video is based on, from fasterthanli.me!
      Continue your journey of discovery here, I've got a short rust intro playlist, not just talking about the syntax: th-cam.com/video/oY0XwMOSzq4/w-d-xo.html

  • @nekomakhea9440
    @nekomakhea9440 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Sequel: Tauri in Ten Minutes?

    • @NoBoilerplate
      @NoBoilerplate  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The native app framework? Maybe! Have you tried it?

    • @nekomakhea9440
      @nekomakhea9440 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NoBoilerplate Never tried it, but I plan to soon. It looks awesome. It's like Electron but using much lighter weight Rust for backend, glue logic, and a browser-like front end interface.
      It claims to have the ability to glue other runtimes into the same binary, like Node.js, Julia, and Python, to mix and match polyglot tech stacks relatively easily.
      I've been intermittently looking into whether I can use it to have Python & Pyscript do the front end UI stuff, with Rust in the back end to handle all the heavy data crunching and OS interactions, while sidestepping the staggering binary size & memory footprint bloat that comes with using chrome/electron. It seems possible.
      As soon as I can make the time I really want to make a network mapping tool, because Visio is a crime against UX design, and it's looking more and more like Tauri would be the best way to do native application development.