I actually got a junior rust development job and today was my first day! It's also my first job and I got no CS degree, internships or any other job experience :D I dont even have a highschool degree. Its like a dream come true
@@vishalbiswa1110 After I dropped out of school, I basically self taught myself programming for like 6 years. done some projects like helping to develop a MMORPG Server backend (non professionally ofc) which we later rewrote in rust and an barebones Operating System kernel. I don't live in the US, but in Germany, so I can't really tell outside of that area. Though I had one benefit, there were no leetcode questions and just in-depth questions like: "What are smart pointers and how do they work" which I was able to answer with ease
It will be great if you can share more information about what it is you are solving for in that domain and why rust was the choice and not something like go
Thank you so much for the feature, @letsgetrusty! We love Rust for many reasons - especially its performance, safety, and concurrency. The ecosystem and community are also fantastic! Thanks again, Let’s Get Rusty!
Embedded SW Engineer at Philips, Hospital Patient Monitors here. We're also big rustaceans over here as well =) Though a great portion of the code is C++, we're free to do all sorts of tooling in Rust and we'd like to insert it in systems where we're able as well. I'd say a still significant barrier is simply that not enough people know Rust. It's still more convenient for many corporations to just stick with C++ due to availabilty of programmers... yet. Also there are still some rough edges with some edge-cases of integration for cross-compiled systems (Yocto, for example), but I for sure have high hopes for it
I work at a fintech company, in the financial processor sector. We built the entire processor in Rust, and are slowly starting to support more card brands, and open our processor to other companies that need one and don't wanna build it in-house
I’m using Rust: a client of mine has decided to switch the backend (Industry, automation) from c++ to Rust. Very happy about the results and performance.
Rust is a good language that makes learning other languages look like toys. Rust by Example is a very good material and with a detailed explanation. My only problem is Job opportunities for some of us that live outside of the US. For instance, I live in Nigeria so, it is either I am using Rust for a personal DIY projects or nothing. I am eager to find a Remote Rust Job to challenge my skills.
Started rust a few weeks ago, not because of the jobs or anything. I just want to get familiar with a systems language since all I've been doing are languages like kotlin, Python and some Golang
in start of 23 I had to pick up Golang for a course on Distributed systems. Jumping from something like Python to Go was hard but helped quite a bit! Now learning Rust and im ready to take some of this beating from it!
One of the side effects of learning Rust is starting to get upset at other languages over design decisions. Cargo is such an easy to use package manager that I started to hate pip and virtual environments in Python 😆
Дякую Богдане! I use RUST for scientific computing in the fields of chemical thermodynamics, combustion modeling, chemical kinetics modeling and so on. Hope it will be more popular in scientific computing. It is far more pleasant and satisfing to write physical and chemical problems on RUST than on cpp!
@@kevinrineer5356 well i also use Python, and when i a want to solve a little problem like pair of diff.equations i prefer Python, but in complex problems python often has issues with speed, so i make "patches" in rust in python code base to overcome "bottle neck". Now i rerwite some of my python programs in rust just for fun and srudiyng purpose. Dont know much about Julia but i tried it a pair of times. A litle faster then python, but small base of packages.
@@kevinrineer5356 well i also use Python, and when i a want to solve a little problem like pair of diff.equations i prefer Python, but in complex problems python often has issues with speed, so i make "patches" in rust in python code bsde to overcome "bottle neck". Now i rerwite some of my python programs in rust just for fun and srudiyng purpose. Dont know much about Julia but i tried it a pair of times. A litle faster then python, but small base of packages.
@@kevinrineer5356I'd imagine modeling software is quite compute-intensive, so Python doesn't seem to be a good choice in this case. Not familiar with Julia unfortunately, but if it's also high-level like Python, it'd be similarly unfitting
I'm currently learning it just for the sake of learning about different types of language than I know (js, php), but if Rust positions open then why not. Great video!
I've been in the field for about 8 years professionally.(Internal web applications, tools, ect) I've worked with C#, JavaScript, done projects in python and some react here and there. I also have a personal project. I love learning Rust. You can do so much with it. The fact that it was build to fix an elevator system speaks volumes. I think it has a lot of future potential. I have adopted working with Rust into my workflow at work and my personal project's backend is built entirely in Rust.
0:20 I don't have a Rust job, but I use rust where it makes sense. I work in a small company. We mainly work on some game in Unity. But sometimes I can still use Rust for simple scripts. Or for some side projects.
the thing that kept me from learning low level languages were the infamous pointers. Turns out its really not complex at all. A handful of months ago I chose Rust as my first LLL and I am really happy with it. Sometimes I do encounter a lot of head scratchers like dereferencing for example. This happens because I am "self taught", working in a team as your job will exponentially grow your skill. Problem is you WILL need to be able to write async Rust and I've never written a single async line of Rust and I've heard stories....
Quick hack for skipping a big chunk of the async learning curve: Use tokio as your async runtime, and the “async_trait” crate for async traits. Treat these as part of the Rust standard library. They might as well be. Until you’re deep in the async weeds, you don’t need to know why Rust leaves an async runtime out of the standard library, or which runtime is right for you. Tokio is a good default. As far as async traits, the language isn’t totally ready for them. There is working being done to make them easier to use. In the meantime, however, just use the crate. The crate does what the standard library eventually wants to do.
@@funkdefied1 first of all thanks for the advice, but for the meantime I will just avoid coding async. Thats not an issue since most of my programs dont do expensive stuff like HTTP requests (yet). I am aware of Tokio and it's probably necessary anyways, cuz I dont see how a LLL would otherwise accomplish async functionality with a keyword. I am very familiar with C#'s amazing async / await and its done via a state machine and the runtime. So it makes sense Rust needs one too. for now I put async and multi threaded Rust as advanced features I will deal with later on, I have a ton of other stuff to understand first, which catches me off guard sometimes and I dont just wanna fill in what the compiler says, I want to understand why. Async will be somewhat annoying anyway due to its lazy nature in rust....
I don't have that much experience with Rust yet, but compared to languages I used before (Haskell and OCaml mostly) Rust's maintability is debatable. It's true that a static type-checker with a solid type system to work with improves maintanability by orders of magnitude and compared to most mainstream languages Rust type system is nothing short of awesome (not so awesome when compared to Haskell or OCaml, though). That said Rust can be annoyingly inflexible. For example you can't abstract over type of reference you require for your function (mutable vs immutable). Polymorphism becomes challenging as soon as you try to do anything beyond what classes in OOP languages can typically do. On top of this, Rust has macros, and boy, nothing obscures and obfuscates the code like macro abuse.
as a pentester and malware developer, rust was pretty easy to get a poc up and working. took a bit of face rolling to get a dll to work but the ntapi crate makes it super easy to directly call functions. offensive security oriented repositories have tons of samples too, more so than other less common system programming languages like nim or zig. writing malware in rust is going to boom. sure it has its downfalls but i think theres a lot of good things in sight.
i come from python environment, and started learning rust about 2 weeks ago. First it didn’t sense to me, like reading ancient script but then i started to understand Result and Option which are really useful and things are getting better now
I used to be a professional C++ developer (15+ years of exp), currently working as a JS/TS React developer for a top 10 company, and I thought I'd learn Rust, because in my opinion any computer science graduate needs to know an actual low level language, so I'm choosing Rust as a replacement for the aging C/C++.
I'm using JS/TS for around 4/5 years but feel I need to learn a lower level language to fill in the gaps of how a computer works, so many opinions out there but my gut is telling me to go with Rust, any opinions, thanks!
- Do you make hardware? - Do you buy hardware? - Do you make popular libraries or other highly cloned code (the same lines of code running on insane numbers of systems)? If so then rust is a good option to consider. If not you probably shouldn't be using it, as it is easier to lower resource cost through other means.
Fullstack developer here, used typescript for near 4 years, now I have started using Rust for about a year ago. I must say it is very good , specially the ownership model is the selling point. Also used in LLMs and it works like charm. And thanks to you it was on your channel two years ago you said nobody uses rust but they will, guess what now everyone uses it. Prohecy went true.
I'm taking an Operating Systems class and it's being taught in Rust and not C anymore. I don't know how make other Universities are doing the same thing, but it's very likely newer graduates will be much more familiar with Rust than C over the next decade.
2:00 I don't agree on that. Not all new software should be written in Rust. I still have some library I wrote in C, which I wrote after Rust became one of my default languages. At that time, there was a second low level language, way more powerful than Rust, but less memory safe and without orphan rules, which could become one of the greatest languages if it was more like Rust (it already has a borrow checker, just like the second generation Rust borrow checker), especially when it comes to some kind of orphan rules. So since I wanted this library to be some kind of default library which can be used everywhere, I decided to just use C. I also wrote a safe Rust wrapper for it.
I've more or less converted my coding job from PHP and Perl to Rust. I work in a telco and we use a lot of backend jobs for telephony configuration, micro billing calculations, batch processing etc..Much of it is a high volume of records, with some databases having billions of records, growing with tens of thousands every hour. I adopted Rust initially because of a particularly heavy task where I had to do a set of calculations for everyone of our mobile subscribers. Rust could do this much, much faster and a lot more memory efficient than PHP or Perl (another language we use). In the process I discovered that Rust is just really nice to develop in compared to PHP and Perl, so now most of the new projects I'm involved with are being developed in Rust.
@@kevinmcfarlane2752 true. It's extremely painful and hands down the worst. Adding insult to injury, the guy who coded most of the code I've inherited neglected to impose any real structure to the code. Functions spanning hundreds of lines, variable names often only two or three characters, generous use of global variables, absolutely zero testing, hard coded credentials, you get the point.
@@daniel29263 lol nope. Billions of lines of proven and well tested legacy code will not be rewritten any time soon. The Rust Foundation will also inevitably pull a Red Hat or Redis Labs at one point and cause any serious user to switch away from Rust because who wants to use a language with tons of internal drama?
I want the jobs to be available, but I don't want the competition from other programmers haha. Still, the second part seems hard to avoid, since the development experience is so good.
Only problem for now is for most of the people watching this channel; 95% of these available positions are for seniors. Most positions cite 3+ years of hands-on Rust experience from my research. Of course, you don't always need 100% of the requirements that are being set, but it is pretty hard starting as a graduate or developer without professional Rust experience. It's the classic chicken and egg story. I think with more adoption in the future two things will happen: 1. Once companies have Rust teams set-up and running for a while, they will start looking for more junior devs 2. Once Rust gets adopted more in industries, education will adapt as well (although I suspect this will take a long while still)
Unironically people struggling with the borrow checker really have skill issues. The ownership rules are simple and you should already apply them in other languages as well. Yes you are allowed to pass multiple mutable references all over the place in Java but it doesn't mean that you should do it. Ever heard about immutable objects and how safe they are in Java? Probably but you rarely use them because? Skill issues Find me a java developer that introduces mutability ONLY when it's necessary... If you are really experienced in programming, you will never fight with the borrow checker. Rethink your design choices if you run into issues with the borrow checker.
@@vanov88 well, I am a newbie in programming so it's fine, I think? My main problem, tbh, is I have terrible working memory and also struggle with following plans💀 but I'll get gud eventually
5th year of being jobless after convincing myself to mainly use RUST instead of C/C++. (There aren't enough jobs for RUST compared to other languages). It is also not used as much. Maybe after another 5 to 10 years, they will completely rewrite code bases in Rust to replace C/C++.
I feel your pain. I’m longtime jobless too. Age is now a factor I suspect, even for a freelancer. But plugging away with Rust and other things nonetheless.
A friend of mine was working for Ubisoft on a rust project, but I don't think she ever told me what it was, and I don't think that she could, or if she still worked for them
I'm looking for a Swift programmer for ongoing API development and maintenance over the long term. Familiarity with Swift's async/await concurrency model is a must. Can a Rust programmer make the leap to Swift?
If you have a good enough portfolio of Rust projects, ignore their experience request. Its just their guess and a good company will value the proof of working projects over the guess that someone with "3 years of experience" is a good enough rust programmer.
Last time I looked at Polars, a lot of the documentation for Rust was out of date, and most of their working examples were for Python. I wonder if they've improved on that now.
I use in backend web in my company, a lot of good upsides, but lately it is getting anoying how many problems appear when doing simples things and how long it takes for compile
May I ask how rust is used partially? I can't wrap my had around how for example Linux is part c/c++ part rust. I understand that C can easily compile to bin and then be used as a bin file, but rust a bit a more complicated.
At this point it would just be easier and better to learn how to program C++ more securely and linting or static code analysis ensure that is the case.
I'm familiar with some Rust concepts such as mutability and borrowing, and I plan to learn Rust thoroughly next year, insha Allah. Currently, I am quite satisfied with Go.
@@abc_cba it's very specific to write a driver for a single GPU, and also no, the Nvidia driver is not written in Rust. I'm starting to think this is some kind of meme that flew over my head.
I'm seeing people comment on moving from high to low level language. See it ain't that hard as you make it. It's hard but y nt tht much. As long as you understand fundamentals, ie, algorithms, pseudocodes and flow charts, the rest comes a bit easy. It's same logic different syntax. Bt I'd advice anyone to start with c# first, then you can dive into any other language
This is why I moved away from the JS ecosystem to Rust. Rust may have way fewer jobs but is being used in fields that I care about. If I need something higher level I just use Python with types.
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I work at AWS and my team is doing all new projects in rust, currently most of the code is in C but we are making the switch
Why not Zig?
Zig zig zig… not production ready
@@chibuzoro Bunjs is written in Zig and part of the AWS lambda infrastructure is written in zig too.
@@javierpablo3409 try building any Zig codebase more than a year old and then ask the question again
Great to hear! I'm curious what type of software your team is working on
I actually got a junior rust development job and today was my first day! It's also my first job and I got no CS degree, internships or any other job experience :D
I dont even have a highschool degree. Its like a dream come true
Hey! Congratulations! I am interested to know how you got the job and the process ( learning phase) you had to go through to get job.
@@vishalbiswa1110 same
@@vishalbiswa1110 After I dropped out of school, I basically self taught myself programming for like 6 years. done some projects like helping to develop a MMORPG Server backend (non professionally ofc) which we later rewrote in rust and an barebones Operating System kernel.
I don't live in the US, but in Germany, so I can't really tell outside of that area. Though I had one benefit, there were no leetcode questions and just in-depth questions like: "What are smart pointers and how do they work" which I was able to answer with ease
So, everything is possible, you just need luck, dedication and willing to learn :D
@@Mempler That's really great. You have already some experience in backend development. I wish to start learning rust to be a backend developer
I’m a senior rust dev and support a fortune 200 company.
We’re using rust to optimize payment infrastructure and cloud services.
Lots of rust and kubernetes
what are you optiomizing from? and why?
It will be great if you can share more information about what it is you are solving for in that domain and why rust was the choice and not something like go
@@jacquesduplessis6175optimizing from C# and C++ some Visual Basic too.
@@chibuzoro I can say that we are using rust and hugging face to make predictions.
I can’t say for what or why.
Thank you so much for the feature, @letsgetrusty! We love Rust for many reasons - especially its performance, safety, and concurrency. The ecosystem and community are also fantastic! Thanks again, Let’s Get Rusty!
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The package manager is very underrated
Embedded SW Engineer at Philips, Hospital Patient Monitors here. We're also big rustaceans over here as well =) Though a great portion of the code is C++, we're free to do all sorts of tooling in Rust and we'd like to insert it in systems where we're able as well. I'd say a still significant barrier is simply that not enough people know Rust. It's still more convenient for many corporations to just stick with C++ due to availabilty of programmers... yet. Also there are still some rough edges with some edge-cases of integration for cross-compiled systems (Yocto, for example), but I for sure have high hopes for it
I'm working on solving the first problem :)
I work at a fintech company, in the financial processor sector. We built the entire processor in Rust, and are slowly starting to support more card brands, and open our processor to other companies that need one and don't wanna build it in-house
I am interested in building a financial processor here in Nigeria. Please can you provide at least an early guide
How much did it cost to build it?
I’m using Rust: a client of mine has decided to switch the backend (Industry, automation) from c++ to Rust. Very happy about the results and performance.
Rust is a good language that makes learning other languages look like toys. Rust by Example is a very good material and with a detailed explanation. My only problem is Job opportunities for some of us that live outside of the US. For instance, I live in Nigeria so, it is either I am using Rust for a personal DIY projects or nothing. I am eager to find a Remote Rust Job to challenge my skills.
There is a Nigerian Rust group of some sort. I can’t remember what they are called. They might be listed in the This Week in Rust newsletter.
@@kevinmcfarlane2752 Really? Find out the name, I would like to be part of that group. What's up with you?
Yeah Me Too, Just started Learning Rust and it is really Interesting
Started rust a few weeks ago, not because of the jobs or anything.
I just want to get familiar with a systems language since all I've been doing are languages like kotlin, Python and some Golang
in start of 23 I had to pick up Golang for a course on Distributed systems. Jumping from something like Python to Go was hard but helped quite a bit! Now learning Rust and im ready to take some of this beating from it!
One of the side effects of learning Rust is starting to get upset at other languages over design decisions. Cargo is such an easy to use package manager that I started to hate pip and virtual environments in Python 😆
@om1cael Not to mention debugging
Дякую Богдане! I use RUST for scientific computing in the fields of chemical thermodynamics, combustion modeling, chemical kinetics modeling and so on. Hope it will be more popular in scientific computing. It is far more pleasant and satisfing to write physical and chemical problems on RUST than on cpp!
What made you choose Rust over other options like Julia and python? I'm curious about Rust's impact on the scientific computing sphere.
@@kevinrineer5356 well i also use Python, and when i a want to solve a little problem like pair of diff.equations i prefer Python, but in complex problems python often has issues with speed, so i make "patches" in rust in python code base to overcome "bottle neck". Now i rerwite some of my python programs in rust just for fun and srudiyng purpose. Dont know much about Julia but i tried it a pair of times. A litle faster then python, but small base of packages.
@@kevinrineer5356 well i also use Python, and when i a want to solve a little problem like pair of diff.equations i prefer Python, but in complex problems python often has issues with speed, so i make "patches" in rust in python code bsde to overcome "bottle neck". Now i rerwite some of my python programs in rust just for fun and srudiyng purpose. Dont know much about Julia but i tried it a pair of times. A litle faster then python, but small base of packages.
@@kevinrineer5356I'd imagine modeling software is quite compute-intensive, so Python doesn't seem to be a good choice in this case. Not familiar with Julia unfortunately, but if it's also high-level like Python, it'd be similarly unfitting
@@kevinrineer5356 Double that. I'm curious about this as well.
I'm currently learning it just for the sake of learning about different types of language than I know (js, php), but if Rust positions open then why not. Great video!
Wow, going from high-level like JS and PHP straight to Rust is kinda insane imo.
What resources you are using to learn rust : ). All the best
@@muyou0107 no its not.
I've been in the field for about 8 years professionally.(Internal web applications, tools, ect) I've worked with C#, JavaScript, done projects in python and some react here and there. I also have a personal project. I love learning Rust. You can do so much with it. The fact that it was build to fix an elevator system speaks volumes. I think it has a lot of future potential.
I have adopted working with Rust into my workflow at work and my personal project's backend is built entirely in Rust.
0:20 I don't have a Rust job, but I use rust where it makes sense. I work in a small company. We mainly work on some game in Unity. But sometimes I can still use Rust for simple scripts. Or for some side projects.
the thing that kept me from learning low level languages were the infamous pointers. Turns out its really not complex at all. A handful of months ago I chose Rust as my first LLL and I am really happy with it. Sometimes I do encounter a lot of head scratchers like dereferencing for example. This happens because I am "self taught", working in a team as your job will exponentially grow your skill. Problem is you WILL need to be able to write async Rust and I've never written a single async line of Rust and I've heard stories....
Quick hack for skipping a big chunk of the async learning curve:
Use tokio as your async runtime, and the “async_trait” crate for async traits. Treat these as part of the Rust standard library. They might as well be.
Until you’re deep in the async weeds, you don’t need to know why Rust leaves an async runtime out of the standard library, or which runtime is right for you. Tokio is a good default.
As far as async traits, the language isn’t totally ready for them. There is working being done to make them easier to use. In the meantime, however, just use the crate. The crate does what the standard library eventually wants to do.
Leaving a comment here for my future self
@@funkdefied1 first of all thanks for the advice, but for the meantime I will just avoid coding async. Thats not an issue since most of my programs dont do expensive stuff like HTTP requests (yet). I am aware of Tokio and it's probably necessary anyways, cuz I dont see how a LLL would otherwise accomplish async functionality with a keyword. I am very familiar with C#'s amazing async / await and its done via a state machine and the runtime. So it makes sense Rust needs one too.
for now I put async and multi threaded Rust as advanced features I will deal with later on, I have a ton of other stuff to understand first, which catches me off guard sometimes and I dont just wanna fill in what the compiler says, I want to understand why. Async will be somewhat annoying anyway due to its lazy nature in rust....
@@Kiyuja You have a defeatist mindset if you think async has already defeated you
@@sneed1208 async hasnt defeated me, I havent even tried it....
I don't have that much experience with Rust yet, but compared to languages I used before (Haskell and OCaml mostly) Rust's maintability is debatable. It's true that a static type-checker with a solid type system to work with improves maintanability by orders of magnitude and compared to most mainstream languages Rust type system is nothing short of awesome (not so awesome when compared to Haskell or OCaml, though). That said Rust can be annoyingly inflexible. For example you can't abstract over type of reference you require for your function (mutable vs immutable). Polymorphism becomes challenging as soon as you try to do anything beyond what classes in OOP languages can typically do. On top of this, Rust has macros, and boy, nothing obscures and obfuscates the code like macro abuse.
10:10 YMMV. I didn't know Rust before my first day in the office. I was hired as a former C++ dev who'd learn Rust on the job.
I am from the future and rust is being used everywhere baby!
as a pentester and malware developer, rust was pretty easy to get a poc up and working. took a bit of face rolling to get a dll to work but the ntapi crate makes it super easy to directly call functions. offensive security oriented repositories have tons of samples too, more so than other less common system programming languages like nim or zig. writing malware in rust is going to boom. sure it has its downfalls but i think theres a lot of good things in sight.
I don't think it will boom because C++ natively supports the windows API and doesn't need all these convoluted patchwork solutions to do basic things
In what alternative reality C++ natively supports Windows API?
You meant MSVC, right?
i come from python environment, and started learning rust about 2 weeks ago. First it didn’t sense to me, like reading ancient script but then i started to understand Result and Option which are really useful and things are getting better now
Started learning Rust last week, it's pretty intense coming from a python background, however it's pretty good
I also want to make a switch from Python, any advices??
@@gracjanchudziak4755
Try no to skip or jump the learning process, it always comes back for you to pay the dues in full
writing compilers in rust is a godsend. Try doing that, i know ur gonna like it
I used to be a professional C++ developer (15+ years of exp), currently working as a JS/TS React developer for a top 10 company, and I thought I'd learn Rust, because in my opinion any computer science graduate needs to know an actual low level language, so I'm choosing Rust as a replacement for the aging C/C++.
I'm using JS/TS for around 4/5 years but feel I need to learn a lower level language to fill in the gaps of how a computer works, so many opinions out there but my gut is telling me to go with Rust, any opinions, thanks!
- Do you make hardware?
- Do you buy hardware?
- Do you make popular libraries or other highly cloned code (the same lines of code running on insane numbers of systems)?
If so then rust is a good option to consider. If not you probably shouldn't be using it, as it is easier to lower resource cost through other means.
Fullstack developer here, used typescript for near 4 years, now I have started using Rust for about a year ago. I must say it is very good , specially the ownership model is the selling point. Also used in LLMs and it works like charm.
And thanks to you it was on your channel two years ago you said nobody uses rust but they will, guess what now everyone uses it. Prohecy went true.
also fullstack developer looking forward to learning Rust, what are the use cases you find yourself using Rust for ?
Personally working as a Blockchain Engineer with Rust.
Bogdan, new haircut is so good on you. Thanks for the video to keep me motivated on keep coding in Rust, even though I'm ts/python backend developer
I'm taking an Operating Systems class and it's being taught in Rust and not C anymore. I don't know how make other Universities are doing the same thing, but it's very likely newer graduates will be much more familiar with Rust than C over the next decade.
2:00 I don't agree on that. Not all new software should be written in Rust. I still have some library I wrote in C, which I wrote after Rust became one of my default languages.
At that time, there was a second low level language, way more powerful than Rust, but less memory safe and without orphan rules, which could become one of the greatest languages if it was more like Rust (it already has a borrow checker, just like the second generation Rust borrow checker), especially when it comes to some kind of orphan rules.
So since I wanted this library to be some kind of default library which can be used everywhere, I decided to just use C.
I also wrote a safe Rust wrapper for it.
you said what every Rust developer wants to hear
Your work is appreciated.
I've more or less converted my coding job from PHP and Perl to Rust. I work in a telco and we use a lot of backend jobs for telephony configuration, micro billing calculations, batch processing etc..Much of it is a high volume of records, with some databases having billions of records, growing with tens of thousands every hour. I adopted Rust initially because of a particularly heavy task where I had to do a set of calculations for everyone of our mobile subscribers. Rust could do this much, much faster and a lot more memory efficient than PHP or Perl (another language we use). In the process I discovered that Rust is just really nice to develop in compared to PHP and Perl, so now most of the new projects I'm involved with are being developed in Rust.
Anything is nicer to develop in than Perl! Definitely the worst language I’ve ever used.
@@kevinmcfarlane2752 true. It's extremely painful and hands down the worst. Adding insult to injury, the guy who coded most of the code I've inherited neglected to impose any real structure to the code. Functions spanning hundreds of lines, variable names often only two or three characters, generous use of global variables, absolutely zero testing, hard coded credentials, you get the point.
I hope rust gets more popular!
It will. The world is written In C today, in a decade it will be written in Rust.
@@daniel29263 Either that or Zig.
@@daniel29263 lol nope. Billions of lines of proven and well tested legacy code will not be rewritten any time soon. The Rust Foundation will also inevitably pull a Red Hat or Redis Labs at one point and cause any serious user to switch away from Rust because who wants to use a language with tons of internal drama?
I want the jobs to be available, but I don't want the competition from other programmers haha. Still, the second part seems hard to avoid, since the development experience is so good.
@@daniel29263 I don't personally see this happening. Especially in embedded environments. Things move so slow. More like 25-50 years.
Only problem for now is for most of the people watching this channel; 95% of these available positions are for seniors. Most positions cite 3+ years of hands-on Rust experience from my research. Of course, you don't always need 100% of the requirements that are being set, but it is pretty hard starting as a graduate or developer without professional Rust experience. It's the classic chicken and egg story.
I think with more adoption in the future two things will happen:
1. Once companies have Rust teams set-up and running for a while, they will start looking for more junior devs
2. Once Rust gets adopted more in industries, education will adapt as well (although I suspect this will take a long while still)
Yep, I’ve found this. IIRC I got rejected for one job in about ten minutes! 😮
Hello from Brazil! We are using rust for all kinds of backend developments at will bank, which is a fintech startup, with millions of clients
Tem palestra sobre como vcs estão usando rust?
@ não tem ainda! Mas está nos planos
@@fernandohsgoncalves ah, legal.
Had no idea this was being adopted on this scale. I started learning it just because I am using Tauri. 😮
how long does it take to learn rust good enough to get a job if you have a programming/ web development background.. anyone?
3. Maintainability is still unproven. Refactoring lifetimes is not easy.
Rust with AWS experience is a very good idea. Many companies want to cut costs by refactoring existing code to Rust.
Thanks for the videos. I’m starting to look at Rust, just taking beginning steps.
Been learning rust on/off. Really like it! I plan on potentially using it at work when the time is right cause node projects age like milk…
"AAA game studios use Rust" is a strong argument for me
the built in package manager and bootstrapping is reason enough.
Cargo > Conan, Vcpckg, Msys, Cmake.
Good to hear about this , I am learning Rust and also bought a book for it
Lucky to be able to help build delivery drones using mostly Rust now a days!
Which company ?
I continue my Rust journey since last year February. ✨💛
You know Ready At Dawn was shutdown last week right?
I had learned mern stack and want to learn new things what should I chose for backend golang rails, rust
Nah, the hardest thing in the world is me, after the borrow checker tells me I have skill issues 40 different times in one instance
pause
Borrow checker is easy. Find and fix a mem leak is tough.
Unironically people struggling with the borrow checker really have skill issues.
The ownership rules are simple and you should already apply them in other languages as well.
Yes you are allowed to pass multiple mutable references all over the place in Java but it doesn't mean that you should do it.
Ever heard about immutable objects and how safe they are in Java? Probably but you rarely use them because? Skill issues
Find me a java developer that introduces mutability ONLY when it's necessary...
If you are really experienced in programming, you will never fight with the borrow checker.
Rethink your design choices if you run into issues with the borrow checker.
@@vanov88 well, I am a newbie in programming so it's fine, I think? My main problem, tbh, is I have terrible working memory and also struggle with following plans💀 but I'll get gud eventually
Hey Bro, hope you are doing good. You look tired. Great content again. Thanks for all your work. Keep going.
5th year of being jobless after convincing myself to mainly use RUST instead of C/C++. (There aren't enough jobs for RUST compared to other languages). It is also not used as much. Maybe after another 5 to 10 years, they will completely rewrite code bases in Rust to replace C/C++.
I feel your pain. I’m longtime jobless too. Age is now a factor I suspect, even for a freelancer. But plugging away with Rust and other things nonetheless.
A friend of mine was working for Ubisoft on a rust project, but I don't think she ever told me what it was, and I don't think that she could, or if she still worked for them
Thanks for this, enough motivation to learn rust!
I'm a data scientist and I work on a research team that uses rust for running simulations and julia for creating visualizations
as a business owner, i can proudly say we use and love rust!!
Awesome!
Rust is going to be my first programming language.
He is the chosen one
@@letsgetrustyHe doesn't know yet
lmao real
@@codingwithjamal @letsgetrusty yeah, is not that a good choice? what do you recommend?
@@keyurbodar-go5qq go for it you can do it
MultiversX is using Rust for everything on their blockchain 😎
Thank you for the market analysis. 👍
Mistake at 3:23 - Ethereum does NOT use rust for smart contract development, it uses Solidity.
Is it worth of learning Rust????
Future job market on rust??? Job security on rust????
I definitely think cybersecurity and aerospace are the industries that would benefit most from Rust
I'm looking for a Swift programmer for ongoing API development and maintenance over the long term. Familiarity with Swift's async/await concurrency model is a must. Can a Rust programmer make the leap to Swift?
noone ever said "learning rust is the hardest thing in the world " its just another language
But rust jobs experience criteria is like min 3-4 years making it not suitable for just pass out university 😢
If you have a good enough portfolio of Rust projects, ignore their experience request. Its just their guess and a good company will value the proof of working projects over the guess that someone with "3 years of experience" is a good enough rust programmer.
Last time I looked at Polars, a lot of the documentation for Rust was out of date, and most of their working examples were for Python. I wonder if they've improved on that now.
Last time I checked Near was also built I rust, not just it's smart contracts.
should i learn RUST or ZIG??? Please help.
What about web development, like web api's and microservices?
The only thing harder than learning Rust is learning Haskell.
Can you use Rust with Framework made in other languages, like OpenCV, Vulkan, DirectX or Pytorch?
If the library/framework has a C API, yes. Rust supports the C ABI, so Rust bindings can be made for any library/framework that has a C API.
I just love to write CLI tools for my needs.
I use in backend web in my company, a lot of good upsides, but lately it is getting anoying how many problems appear when doing simples things and how long it takes for compile
Can you share some production projects that use rust to learn from
Browse the standard library.
Zed editor source code has been very helpful to me in terms of code structure, error handling and libraries they use
Does it have object oriented features?
In a sentence: Rust can be found where C is used or would be used.
It isn't, for example, covering web development except niche cases
I just got hired as a rust microservice developer as a fresh graduate
Grok uses googles jax for training and rust (probably candle) for inference and backend
Started learning rust this year and found a job without explicitly looking for in India. Maybe I am lucky...
Yes you are
May I ask how rust is used partially? I can't wrap my had around how for example Linux is part c/c++ part rust. I understand that C can easily compile to bin and then be used as a bin file, but rust a bit a more complicated.
How can I get a Rust Job as a final year fresher in Bachelors in CSE ? Any tips ?
Cyber Security + Rust = winning
At this point it would just be easier and better to learn how to program C++ more securely and linting or static code analysis ensure that is the case.
btw there's no Rust job
There are but they are hard to get.
😅@@RustIsWinning
so basically this channel will help you get to NASA
Not to forget in automotive: Renault Ampere 🤓🇫🇷
Smart Contract development in Ethereum is using Solidity, not Rust. Reth is developed by Rust.
The only rust use cases I have heard of in ethereum is mainly for ethereum clients not smart contracts
I'm familiar with some Rust concepts such as mutability and borrowing, and I plan to learn Rust thoroughly next year, insha Allah. Currently, I am quite satisfied with Go.
The only thing on this list that gives me total confidence in Rust is Tor
If Tor is bad people die
So they went for Rust
I heard the Ryzen 4070 driver is written in Rust
What is a Ryzen 4070?
😂😂
Cursed Ryzen 4070 💀
@@daniel29263 i think he means rtx 4070
@@abc_cba it's very specific to write a driver for a single GPU, and also no, the Nvidia driver is not written in Rust.
I'm starting to think this is some kind of meme that flew over my head.
I'm seeing people comment on moving from high to low level language. See it ain't that hard as you make it. It's hard but y nt tht much. As long as you understand fundamentals, ie, algorithms, pseudocodes and flow charts, the rest comes a bit easy. It's same logic different syntax. Bt I'd advice anyone to start with c# first, then you can dive into any other language
Looking at the job postings, only in blockchain looks like
is there any job seat for freshers tho?
This is why I moved away from the JS ecosystem to Rust. Rust may have way fewer jobs but is being used in fields that I care about. If I need something higher level I just use Python with types.
Please make a video about Zig!
Many people say that Zig does "things" better than Rust.
Software engineer at retail company here, we’re writing all new software that runs in our retail environment in Rust and it’s amazing!
What do you use on the frontend
If I want to create a simple project using Rust, do I need to know about lifetime?
Nice research
Amazing video
I heard web 3 and block chain and my brain went bzzzzzzzzzzzzzz