Part 2 of our Nosler Accubond Vs. Federal Terminal Ascent series has us looking at the 200gr TA, which we've got loaded up in 300 Win Mag for our Bergara B14 HMR.
My brother and I got my dad a Bergara B14 hunter 300 win mag for my dad for his retirement present. Got him some of these 200 grain terminal ascent cartridges for his western hunting, they've done very well for him
Great video, I shot a 242 lbs field dressed Whitetail on a hard quartering away 80 yard shot placement out of my 30.06 Springfield using Federal's 175gr Terminal Accent and bullet was recovered with picture perfect mushrooming and the Buck was recovered 30 yards away, I was impressed by the performance of this bullet 💥
This is a fantastic outcome and demonstrates what a proper medium range cartridge and projectile choice looks like for use on bigger game. Nothing is going to walk far after being hit by one of these…
Very well done, nicely laid out, and informative. Love the smartass back an forth and the "magic bullet" commentary! Would like to see accuracy tests between this and the 200gr Accubond. Stay safe and God bless
When comparing it to the accubond, Its longer with the same weight because it has about 1/3 of the length of the bullet (rear portion of the shank) made of copper, and therefore has less lead core than an accubond. So to get the same weight it has to be longer. Thats also why the shank has the grooves in that area, its all copper. Between the accubond and the TA (or even the trophy bonded tip) I don't think you can go wrong using them for hunting. Fantastic bullets.
Spot on analysis. I see the terminal ascent is basically a hybrid of the Accubond LR (good expansion at low impact velocities) and a monolithic bullet (an indestructible copper shank for deep penetration even at high impact velocities). It's an great design.
@@bryceanderson553 The TA is an extension of the Trophy Bonded Bear Claw/Trophy Bonded Tip. Much more copper and opens at lower velocities and more predictable than the ABLR
I am not into high BC bullets as much as some shooters, but I must admit that having a velocity of 2305 fps at 500 yards is pretty impressive. And it held together really good at the higher velocity impacts too. Very impressed.
Thanks. Saw a few guys testing this. I'll be using the TA in 308 for my elk hunt later this month. Got some of these andn168 gr Berger Hybrids. I don't like the hybrids bullet explosions as opposed to the TA weight retention. I took a couple of deer with the Berger. Not comfortable using it on elk. That late season elk hunt is a draw I had to win and got me two cow tags.
Took a pronghorn with a 175g TA. Seemed to have worked well. 30 cal hole on one side and a 1 and half inch hole on the other side. Took two or three steps and fell down dead in about 5 seconds. Shot was about 150 yds.
I'm wondering how they would do out of a faster smaller bullet if they had to make them with a bit more jacket to hold up a bit better being smaller round. If you test them you should come post lol
My 12 year old granddaughter killed a 320 6X6 bull elk at 370 yard with a 155 loaded in a 7mm Wby Mag. 1st cold shot was 3,301. Estimated impact velocity = 2,853. Dropped him in one shot. Bullet recovered weighed 86%.
My favorite rounds, when I see them on the shelf for the .300 WM I buy them all lol! I found some 185 grain Bergers which will be in there. During ammo shortage bought Noslers for $100 a box and these are $60 a box and AMAZING rounds of ammo!
TA for the win, I prefer these to my own hand loads in certain calibers. My .308, 7mm mag, and 300 win love the factory rounds. 30-06 Remington 700 loves them. Howa 1500 in 30-06 isn’t a fan.
Like the effort...I have had occasions where I'm loaded to shoot 500 yards but had shots well inside 100 yards...bullets usually exploded on a rib..no bullets material actually found inside the animal...so try archery range.
It seems a lot of the length comes from the fact there is a ton of copper on the tail end of the projectile. Assuming the cross section photo on the federal site is accurate.
There’s no doubt the results speak for themselves, but I don’t see anything that would make me switch from a 180 Accubond in my 300 WIn Mag. After all, on game performance has been outstanding with the Accubond. .
I personally like the Accubond more than the Terminal Ascent. Andres is the opposite though, he loves the TA and runs them in 300 and 308. It's apples to apples with these two projectiles, whichever one you prefer is going to be more than fine and if your gun shoots them well no reason to switch! -Karl
Looks great, but I'm a little concerned about the toxicity of lead in the game animals that many are going to put on their tables to feed their families.
Ya I do, Nosler just offers it in more grain weights that I like than what the TA comes in. I think in terms of lethality they're pretty much the same.
Part of our goal here was to see if we could get a 200 grainer in the 300 WM past 3000 fps, so we sourced the powder which gave us the fastest velocity we could find data for and loaded slightly above max recommended charge. We didn't see any pressure signs but I wouldn't necessarily recommend anyone else do the same. Manufacturers tend to go with slightly slower but less temperature sensitive powders.
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This should be the standard by which all bullets are compared in my opinion. What an awesome bullet!!
Thank you for adding impact velocities, it gives a lot more information that can indicate performance in other cartridges. Keep it up. 👍👍👍
Agreed 👍
My brother and I got my dad a Bergara B14 hunter 300 win mag for my dad for his retirement present. Got him some of these 200 grain terminal ascent cartridges for his western hunting, they've done very well for him
Great video, I shot a 242 lbs field dressed Whitetail on a hard quartering away 80 yard shot placement out of my 30.06 Springfield using Federal's 175gr Terminal Accent and bullet was recovered with picture perfect mushrooming and the Buck was recovered 30 yards away, I was impressed by the performance of this bullet 💥
This is a fantastic outcome and demonstrates what a proper medium range cartridge and projectile choice looks like for use on bigger game. Nothing is going to walk far after being hit by one of these…
Medium range cartridge, LOL gtfo clown boy
Another great video and I really enjoy your videos and the way you do the layout, I have used this bullet in .270 and.308 👊🏻👊🏻🇺🇸
Very well done, nicely laid out, and informative. Love the smartass back an forth and the "magic bullet" commentary! Would like to see accuracy tests between this and the 200gr Accubond. Stay safe and God bless
Thanks for commenting!
When comparing it to the accubond, Its longer with the same weight because it has about 1/3 of the length of the bullet (rear portion of the shank) made of copper, and therefore has less lead core than an accubond. So to get the same weight it has to be longer. Thats also why the shank has the grooves in that area, its all copper. Between the accubond and the TA (or even the trophy bonded tip) I don't think you can go wrong using them for hunting. Fantastic bullets.
Spot on analysis. I see the terminal ascent is basically a hybrid of the Accubond LR (good expansion at low impact velocities) and a monolithic bullet (an indestructible copper shank for deep penetration even at high impact velocities). It's an great design.
@@bryceanderson553 The TA is an extension of the Trophy Bonded Bear Claw/Trophy Bonded Tip. Much more copper and opens at lower velocities and more predictable than the ABLR
I'm 100% with you on bonded bullets for hunting! It doesn't matter what you hit paper and steel with but game is another thing. Well done!
Agree with you and Thor 100%!!!
Depends everything is situational non bonded bullets do have their place but also agree 0 to 400 bonded bullets are definitely better on big game
Thanks for your hard work, I can't wait for the low velocity tests!!
I am not into high BC bullets as much as some shooters, but I must admit that having a velocity of 2305 fps at 500 yards is pretty impressive. And it held together really good at the higher velocity impacts too. Very impressed.
Thanks. Saw a few guys testing this. I'll be using the TA in 308 for my elk hunt later this month.
Got some of these andn168 gr Berger Hybrids. I don't like the hybrids bullet explosions as opposed to the TA weight retention. I took a couple of deer with the Berger. Not comfortable using it on elk.
That late season elk hunt is a draw I had to win and got me two cow tags.
This will be my bullet of choice for a Mountain Goat hunt in BC this fall in 7mm REM Mag. Keep up the good work and keep going!
Best from Norway.
It's a great choice and that sounds like an awesome hunt! Thanks for watching!
Took a pronghorn with a 175g TA. Seemed to have worked well. 30 cal hole on one side and a 1 and half inch hole on the other side. Took two or three steps and fell down dead in about 5 seconds. Shot was about 150 yds.
best channel for demonstrating expansion test. Thank you!!!
Thanks for watching!
I love these bullets I’m using the 155 in my 7mm mag
I'm wondering how they would do out of a faster smaller bullet if they had to make them with a bit more jacket to hold up a bit better being smaller round. If you test them you should come post lol
My 12 year old granddaughter killed a 320 6X6 bull elk at 370 yard with a 155 loaded in a 7mm Wby Mag. 1st cold shot was 3,301. Estimated impact velocity = 2,853. Dropped him in one shot. Bullet recovered weighed 86%.
My favorite rounds, when I see them on the shelf for the .300 WM I buy them all lol! I found some 185 grain Bergers which will be in there. During ammo shortage bought Noslers for $100 a box and these are $60 a box and AMAZING rounds of ammo!
I noticed that federal will be making factory versions of this in 300PRC in 215 grain. Should be great for elk and mule deer!
Should do great on tanks too lol
Good work fellas, just found your channel and your tests really show the differences in performance between bullets awesome!
The bottom half of the terminal ascent is fully made of copper alloy (guilding metal). That's why you'll never get it to expand below that level.
I'm not a fan of copper bullets. But I would like to try some of the 200 gr out of my 300 wby. I looked the only weight for my 280AI is 155 gr.
The commentary while on the range is hilarious!!🤣🤣
Thanks!
Kudos for no muzzle break, hearing damage is forever, no need on a 300 WM
Awesome. I love the terminal ascent. Great job on the video
Thank you very much for your support!
TA for the win, I prefer these to my own hand loads in certain calibers. My .308, 7mm mag, and 300 win love the factory rounds. 30-06 Remington 700 loves them. Howa 1500 in 30-06 isn’t a fan.
Like the effort...I have had occasions where I'm loaded to shoot 500 yards but had shots well inside 100 yards...bullets usually exploded on a rib..no bullets material actually found inside the animal...so try archery range.
It seems a lot of the length comes from the fact there is a ton of copper on the tail end of the projectile. Assuming the cross section photo on the federal site is accurate.
Terminal Ascent seem to be a near perfect copy of the Trophy bonded tip. Which i think is the best bullet design
Improved copy they are the top 2 hunting bullets to me
Looks like great reliable performance. Anything in North America.
Yup, definitely could handle anything up here!
The best bullet in the world!!!
For now, yes sir
Great video.
Liked and subscribed 👍🏼
I'll just stay with Nosler Partition and Barnes TSX thank you.
Those are great options!
A Bergara, A Leupold, and a .300 win mag... What could go wrong?
Terminal Ascent is a great bullet!
Best bullet next to swift sirocco
There’s no doubt the results speak for themselves, but I don’t see anything that would make me switch from a 180 Accubond in my 300 WIn Mag. After all, on game performance has been outstanding with the Accubond. .
I personally like the Accubond more than the Terminal Ascent. Andres is the opposite though, he loves the TA and runs them in 300 and 308.
It's apples to apples with these two projectiles, whichever one you prefer is going to be more than fine and if your gun shoots them well no reason to switch!
-Karl
The TA is an awesome bullet, but where in the world can you get them these days?
Look online they are plentiful in some cartridges I have loaded up on 300wsm 6.5 prc n creed just wish they would load some for 270wsm
Did those shots in boot camp.Iron Sites
How is the accuracy between nosler and federal bullets u tried out great video
Looks great, but I'm a little concerned about the toxicity of lead in the game animals that many are going to put on their tables to feed their families.
Pretty impressive that you got 200 grainer traveling about 200fps faster than factory loads. Do you care to share reloading data?
Above maximum recommended charge of Ramshot Magnum. Exercise caution in any loads you work up.
You still pull toward the Accubond?
Ya I do, Nosler just offers it in more grain weights that I like than what the TA comes in. I think in terms of lethality they're pretty much the same.
Hmm, kinda cool. You guys don't go past 500? And, no velocities?
Out to 500 is our format, impact velocities are included under the images of the recoverd projectiles in our newer videos.
@@frontlinerejects8029 500 is plenty far for hunting. Of course though, there are those that just want to be snipers.
If is stabile on 100 it would definetly be stabile at 500😉
Completely agree!
Using water jugs for ballistics tests is ghetto.
Factory load is only 2800 fps at the muzzle.
Part of our goal here was to see if we could get a 200 grainer in the 300 WM past 3000 fps, so we sourced the powder which gave us the fastest velocity we could find data for and loaded slightly above max recommended charge. We didn't see any pressure signs but I wouldn't necessarily recommend anyone else do the same. Manufacturers tend to go with slightly slower but less temperature sensitive powders.