@@neilfields5914 There is a new scram 450 coming out sharing some features and engine from the new Himalayan 450. Might be worth waiting for it's release
I went to look at some bikes today. The scam surprised me with how premium it looked. The interceptor surprised me by not looking as good as I expected. The classics look fantastic but I think they might be a bit more sedate than the others? The meteors looked amazing. My favourite looks wise. Especially the yellow one. But i think the hunter will suit me a bit better with the seating position and apparently it's a bit more responsive with a slightly higher top end. Definitely spoilt for choice.
Sounds like you had a good look at these wonderful motorcycles. Agree with your conclusion. I have the Classic, 2500 miles in about a month, and do love it. Classic is mellow. I'm thinking the Meteor may be the most comfortable on the long rides...will try to get a long ride on one very soon. We've been calling the Hunter a mini Interceptor. Love the sporty looks and nature of the Hunter. Let us know what you end up doing. Wahoo!
I'm going to have to test ride one or two. On looks alone I'd buy a meteor but I think they probably all have a different character. I suffer from sciatica so I'm not sure about the meteor riding position. It looks like a lot of the weight goes on your spine with the legs out forward and not leaning on the bars. Although I'm not into sports bikes these days I found being hunched over was fine for my back.
Nice one, excellent comparison! That end can on the Hunter is interesting, might have to do a bit of research over here in the UK. Also interesting to see the same colour Hunter as mine with the screen fitted, looks ok. Thanks for the review, all the best, Phil
@@forgottenmotorcycles I'm luvin my little Hunter, thanks, although it's called a 'Hntr' over here for some reason. I've done over 3000 miles now, since 1st of March and my fuel consumption ranges between 104 and 122 miles per imperial gallon!!! Unbelievable!! Yes, you definitely need to ride/review that Rebel Red Hunter. Although there's no scientific evidence to back it up, I believe the red Hunters are faster than the other colours ....... 😁🤣😊I'll look forward to that review and your opinion on the sound of that pipe. Cheers, Phil
I think the scram would suit my love of back roads, including dirt and gravel, but there’s been a lot of conflicting information about the build quality. It doesn’t have to be at the Steller level of the 350s, but what do you think?
Build quality for RE's gets better every year. My 2021 Himalayan has held together well but when compared to the new Royal Enfield's you can see the improvements made. These improvements go beyond cosmetics to include software, fueling, paint and more. The new Scram has a much higher level of fit & finish when compared to my 21 Himalayan. I don't think you can go wrong...Dang, that was long. Short form: Quality good, go buy that Scram. Wahoo!
I went to look at all the RE bikes yesterday and i was very impressed with the way the scram looked. It seemed to be high quality. At least as good as the meteor's and visually at least better than the intercpetor, which is by no means bad. I'd dismissed it due to spoked wheels but i'm not 100% sure now.
@@forgottenmotorcycles I think that RE has a total hit with their lineup. They will rival the Harley Sportster for modification possibilities and it doesn’t cost a small fortune to get there. 👍
I just want one… been struggling to get one financially, but my eyes have been and always will be Himalayan, but the scram I would consider, and the hunter 350 looks clean! Feeling generous? Wanna donate one to me? Haha or give away one? 😊
I really wish these bikes had a tach. It is just really helpful when you are figuring out specifically how that bike operates and when you are wearing earplugs you can't necessarily "hear" when you are supposed to change gear. This kind of think is making me want to go with the Himalayan but I really don't like how heavy that bike and I think it looks comparatively much worse. I think the Hunter is the one that best fits what I am going for but I would like to one day try dirt and don't really want to do that on a street bike even with things like a skid plate. I just gotta be honest with myself though. Do I buy a bike that is better for the type of riding I already do or buy a bike that is worse but better for a type of riding I may not do or ultimately like doing.
Wonder is a tach can be added? Should not be too hard to do. When I bought my Himalayan I was doing very little dirt, only had a 1100 Honda Shadow, now half the miles on my Himalayan are on dirt. The motorcycle really opened up a new world of riding for me because I live in an area with so many gravel and dirt roads. It's been great...for me. Wahoo!
@@forgottenmotorcycles Yeah I discovered a Tach is actually trival to add on the aftermarket. 30 dollars and maybe an hour of your time if you are a moron (like me). A lot of them are ugly as hell but if I will probably want it off once I get an intuitive feel for the bike. The more I think the more the Hunter seems obvious. I frankly don't have anywhere to ride off-road nearby. So I think being honest with myself it is better to get the road focused bike. Then getting a skid plate, maybe some slight dirt bias tires for when I find a gravel or dirt road to tear up.
I have the '23 Scram 411. Has anyone tried a one-tooth larger front sprocket. Not as much gain as I would like but it a noticeable difference. Still not a touring bike.
The tripper is pretty nice but i find my self not using it much. However, i've noticed i cannot for the life of me keep the time on the main cluster to stay correct. It seems to make up a random time every time i start my bike (scram). So i use the tripper for accurate time telling haha.
I was so impressed by your collection of motorcycles that I had to ask: did you ride them as well or just rounded up the spects? I mean, don't get me wrong, I appreciate a good spec sheet as much as the next guy, but there's nothing like feeling the wind in your hair and the roar of the engine in your ears. Unless you're bald and deaf, of course. Then you might want to stick to the spects.
I still have a little hair left. Have rode the Hunter a few hundred mile and the Scram less. Plan on putting a few hundred mile on a Scram 411 this weekend. This Scram 411 has a Zard pipe. So, that should be a little extra fun. Wahoo!
Google is telling me that the top speed it opposite of what you said.. Scram = 85 MPH & Hunter = 112 MPH (according to google) which is weird to me considering the Scram has the larger engine.
So, I've had the Himalayan & the Scram indicating 85, my GPS claimed 83 in both cases. Most I could get out of the Hunter was an indicated 77 mph or so before it started bouncing off the speed limiter. Only time I've had my personal Classic 350 indicate over 100 mph was when the speedometer failed. Pretty sure I was only going about 75 mph. Great bikes and loads of fun! Wahoo!
Nice video, Hunter to me seems like a fattened up Suzuki Tu 250/Volty. Nice bikes, top speed will increase after running in period, then a sprocket with an extra tooth in the front or minus one at the back will increase the top speed and perhaps shave very little torque....if ones desire...
That's a good question to ask Jeremy at baxtercycle.com he's a good guy and can set you up. As far as making up your mind on which bike? I wonder the same thing every day LOL beautiful motorcycles!
I'm not sure. The pipe was on the bike when I arrived. Please send a note to Jeremy at Baxtercycle.com I'll ask him about this too the next time I'm there. Thanks!
Had a chance to ride the Hntr In Bangalore, India last month. Amazing handler in busy streets. Felt it overheated up to n traffic. Anyone rigged a tachometer? That would fill up the “empty” spot there!
Why oh why would Royal Enfield not give the Hunter a 500cc engine ? It wouldn’t be a rocket ship but it could certainly cruise all day at 60-70 mph, 100-110 kmh, wake up and do it again. The 350 is nice if you don’t do much highway riding and from the reviews I have been reading the Scram 411 only does slightly better. Come on Royal Enfield you can do it, make an old man happy.
@@forgottenmotorcycles ….. Well then bless their cotton socks ! My Bonneville and TW 200 are destined for the sales pages and I think I’ll go to the nearest Royal Enfield and plonk down a big deposit for the first Hunter 500 to hit their showroom floor. Thank you for giving me hope. At 71 who knows how much longer I have to fulfill my 500cc thumper dreams.
I think a better idea would be to make a more modernized version of the Int650 like what the Hunter is to the Classic. Personally the Hunter would lose its' appeal for me pretty quickly if it was a 500. Maybe silly but I think the price point is perfect and the amount of power is great for the type of riding I like to do. And yes I know the Interceptor isn't actually a classic bike but it still carries over classic features the Hunter doesn't if that makes any sense.
Here in England I go to most of the local bike meets ...I see more and more Hunters turning up ..because the suit shorter riders ...lady riders ..older riders ...really popular here ...great little bikes .
@@forgottenmotorcycles thanks, I've been thinking of getting something like these, I like the look, and they seem like a fun bike to just kick around on.
Don't really like either one. Everyone loving their invisible on the road black motorcycles. Had one no more. Two almost killed incidents , and the first words out of their mouth was sorry I did not see you.
Just pulled the trigger on a Hunter yesterday, due to pick up next week. Can’t wait.
You're gonna love that bike. Consider the AEW Thunder pipe for it. Great motorcycle. Congratulations!
❤ congratulations.. 🥳🥳🥳🥳
*Crap Game* 🎉
I’m swapping my Hunter for a scram soon
@@neilfields5914 There is a new scram 450 coming out sharing some features and engine from the new Himalayan 450. Might be worth waiting for it's release
Thanks for this video, I couldn't decide between the two. Thanks to you I've decided on the Hunter!
Glad I could help!
I went to look at some bikes today.
The scam surprised me with how premium it looked.
The interceptor surprised me by not looking as good as I expected.
The classics look fantastic but I think they might be a bit more sedate than the others?
The meteors looked amazing. My favourite looks wise. Especially the yellow one.
But i think the hunter will suit me a bit better with the seating position and apparently it's a bit more responsive with a slightly higher top end.
Definitely spoilt for choice.
Sounds like you had a good look at these wonderful motorcycles. Agree with your conclusion. I have the Classic, 2500 miles in about a month, and do love it. Classic is mellow. I'm thinking the Meteor may be the most comfortable on the long rides...will try to get a long ride on one very soon. We've been calling the Hunter a mini Interceptor. Love the sporty looks and nature of the Hunter. Let us know what you end up doing. Wahoo!
I'm going to have to test ride one or two. On looks alone I'd buy a meteor but I think they probably all have a different character.
I suffer from sciatica so I'm not sure about the meteor riding position. It looks like a lot of the weight goes on your spine with the legs out forward and not leaning on the bars.
Although I'm not into sports bikes these days I found being hunched over was fine for my back.
I was just looking at some Baxter Cycle bikes today! Might have to head over there before winter
Head on over...you'll love it!
I'd love a Hunter 350 with a Scram 411 engine.
Now that would be interesting!
Nice one, excellent comparison! That end can on the Hunter is interesting, might have to do a bit of research over here in the UK. Also interesting to see the same colour Hunter as mine with the screen fitted, looks ok. Thanks for the review, all the best, Phil
I'm thinking I need to review, meaning I want to ride it, that nifty red Hunter. How do you like yours? Wahoo!
@@forgottenmotorcycles I'm luvin my little Hunter, thanks, although it's called a 'Hntr' over here for some reason. I've done over 3000 miles now, since 1st of March and my fuel consumption ranges between 104 and 122 miles per imperial gallon!!! Unbelievable!! Yes, you definitely need to ride/review that Rebel Red Hunter. Although there's no scientific evidence to back it up, I believe the red Hunters are faster than the other colours ....... 😁🤣😊I'll look forward to that review and your opinion on the sound of that pipe. Cheers, Phil
@@PAGallagher I've studied the speed of red motorcycles extensively. Red is definitely always faster LOL!
@@forgottenmotorcycles 🤣🤣👍👍
I think the scram would suit my love of back roads, including dirt and gravel, but there’s been a lot of conflicting information about the build quality. It doesn’t have to be at the Steller level of the 350s, but what do you think?
Build quality for RE's gets better every year. My 2021 Himalayan has held together well but when compared to the new Royal Enfield's you can see the improvements made. These improvements go beyond cosmetics to include software, fueling, paint and more. The new Scram has a much higher level of fit & finish when compared to my 21 Himalayan. I don't think you can go wrong...Dang, that was long. Short form: Quality good, go buy that Scram. Wahoo!
@@forgottenmotorcycles many thanks !
I went to look at all the RE bikes yesterday and i was very impressed with the way the scram looked. It seemed to be high quality. At least as good as the meteor's and visually at least better than the intercpetor, which is by no means bad.
I'd dismissed it due to spoked wheels but i'm not 100% sure now.
@@letni9506 thank you
Thank you very much for your thorough review!!
My pleasure!
Both exhaust sound great! Different, but awesome. 😊
Hoping to do a better video of that red Hunter with the AEW pipe. I'm in love with its look and sound. Wahoo!
@@forgottenmotorcycles I think that RE has a total hit with their lineup. They will rival the Harley Sportster for modification possibilities and it doesn’t cost a small fortune to get there. 👍
@@pinkiewerewolf a person would probably pay more for accessories on a new Sportster than they would for this whole motorcycle.
@@forgottenmotorcycles I think you're right!
I just want one… been struggling to get one financially, but my eyes have been and always will be Himalayan, but the scram I would consider, and the hunter 350 looks clean!
Feeling generous? Wanna donate one to me? Haha or give away one? 😊
You need one, get to the bike shop and pick one up...you will love it. Wahoo!
I really wish these bikes had a tach. It is just really helpful when you are figuring out specifically how that bike operates and when you are wearing earplugs you can't necessarily "hear" when you are supposed to change gear. This kind of think is making me want to go with the Himalayan but I really don't like how heavy that bike and I think it looks comparatively much worse. I think the Hunter is the one that best fits what I am going for but I would like to one day try dirt and don't really want to do that on a street bike even with things like a skid plate. I just gotta be honest with myself though. Do I buy a bike that is better for the type of riding I already do or buy a bike that is worse but better for a type of riding I may not do or ultimately like doing.
Wonder is a tach can be added? Should not be too hard to do. When I bought my Himalayan I was doing very little dirt, only had a 1100 Honda Shadow, now half the miles on my Himalayan are on dirt. The motorcycle really opened up a new world of riding for me because I live in an area with so many gravel and dirt roads. It's been great...for me. Wahoo!
@@forgottenmotorcycles Yeah I discovered a Tach is actually trival to add on the aftermarket. 30 dollars and maybe an hour of your time if you are a moron (like me). A lot of them are ugly as hell but if I will probably want it off once I get an intuitive feel for the bike.
The more I think the more the Hunter seems obvious. I frankly don't have anywhere to ride off-road nearby. So I think being honest with myself it is better to get the road focused bike. Then getting a skid plate, maybe some slight dirt bias tires for when I find a gravel or dirt road to tear up.
@@SirNarax I love the Hunter. It is a fabulous motorcycle.
I have the '23 Scram 411. Has anyone tried a one-tooth larger front sprocket. Not as much gain as I would like but it a noticeable difference. Still not a touring bike.
Have never tried doing that on any of my bikes.
The tripper is pretty nice but i find my self not using it much. However, i've noticed i cannot for the life of me keep the time on the main cluster to stay correct. It seems to make up a random time every time i start my bike (scram). So i use the tripper for accurate time telling haha.
I"ve never had to live with the Tripper Nav. Thanks for that info. I'm guessing it's the clock I'd use for getting to, or not to, work. lol!
Great bikes! Would love to ride them both.
Loads of fun, for sure!
I was so impressed by your collection of motorcycles that I had to ask: did you ride them as well or just rounded up the spects? I mean, don't get me wrong, I appreciate a good spec sheet as much as the next guy, but there's nothing like feeling the wind in your hair and the roar of the engine in your ears. Unless you're bald and deaf, of course. Then you might want to stick to the spects.
I still have a little hair left. Have rode the Hunter a few hundred mile and the Scram less. Plan on putting a few hundred mile on a Scram 411 this weekend. This Scram 411 has a Zard pipe. So, that should be a little extra fun. Wahoo!
Google is telling me that the top speed it opposite of what you said.. Scram = 85 MPH & Hunter = 112 MPH (according to google) which is weird to me considering the Scram has the larger engine.
So, I've had the Himalayan & the Scram indicating 85, my GPS claimed 83 in both cases. Most I could get out of the Hunter was an indicated 77 mph or so before it started bouncing off the speed limiter. Only time I've had my personal Classic 350 indicate over 100 mph was when the speedometer failed. Pretty sure I was only going about 75 mph. Great bikes and loads of fun! Wahoo!
Nice video, Hunter to me seems like a fattened up Suzuki Tu 250/Volty. Nice bikes, top speed will increase after running in period, then a sprocket with an extra tooth in the front or minus one at the back will increase the top speed and perhaps shave very little torque....if ones desire...
Very true!
How much to ship to Concord Nc? Your videos are great but I still can't make up my mind.
That's a good question to ask Jeremy at baxtercycle.com he's a good guy and can set you up. As far as making up your mind on which bike? I wonder the same thing every day LOL beautiful motorcycles!
Does the AEW pipe have a cover that can go over to add some black? Sort of like the stock pipe?
I'm not sure. The pipe was on the bike when I arrived. Please send a note to Jeremy at Baxtercycle.com I'll ask him about this too the next time I'm there. Thanks!
You can buy the pipe in a black powder coat or stainless.
Had a chance to ride the Hntr In Bangalore, India last month. Amazing handler in busy streets. Felt it overheated up to n traffic. Anyone rigged a tachometer? That would fill up the “empty” spot there!
A tach kit would be great!
But do you really need all the dealer add-ons?
Whatever works 😎
I wish RE would have used the 411 engine on the Hunter.
Now that would be something. Wahoo!
Why oh why would Royal Enfield not give the Hunter a 500cc engine ? It wouldn’t be a rocket ship but it could certainly cruise all day at 60-70 mph, 100-110 kmh, wake up and do it again. The 350 is nice if you don’t do much highway riding and from the reviews I have been reading the Scram 411 only does slightly better. Come on Royal Enfield you can do it, make an old man happy.
I'm guessing your dreams are about to come true. RE has some good stuff on the horizon. Wahoo!
@@forgottenmotorcycles ….. Well then bless their cotton socks ! My Bonneville and TW 200 are destined for the sales pages and I think I’ll go to the nearest Royal Enfield and plonk down a big deposit for the first Hunter 500 to hit their showroom floor. Thank you for giving me hope. At 71 who knows how much longer I have to fulfill my 500cc thumper dreams.
I think a better idea would be to make a more modernized version of the Int650 like what the Hunter is to the Classic. Personally the Hunter would lose its' appeal for me pretty quickly if it was a 500. Maybe silly but I think the price point is perfect and the amount of power is great for the type of riding I like to do. And yes I know the Interceptor isn't actually a classic bike but it still carries over classic features the Hunter doesn't if that makes any sense.
Here in England I go to most of the local bike meets ...I see more and more Hunters turning up ..because the suit shorter riders ...lady riders ..older riders ...really popular here ...great little bikes .
Sure would be nice if you did it to them stock..
I think I've done a few stock bike videos of these models. I'll take a look.
@@forgottenmotorcycles thanks, I've been thinking of getting something like these, I like the look, and they seem like a fun bike to just kick around on.
Has anyone set the scram up for kickstart
That would be interesting
What is the point in comparing 2 modified bikes...and then stating the stock data, either that or the mods do nothing.
Wahoo
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Wahoo!
Hunter is os beautiful 😍 ❤
Very!
Hunter is way more beautiful, but i am 185 so i will go with a scrambler
Love them both!
Scram if you have a pillion
Wahoo 🎉
Wahoo.
Love that new tail on the Trident!
@@forgottenmotorcycles Thanks Fuzzy 👍 really does change the look & looks more like a bike I use to see.
Don't really like either one. Everyone loving their invisible on the road black motorcycles. Had one no more. Two almost killed incidents , and the first words out of their mouth was sorry I did not see you.
Invisible bikers
Scram 411 is better than hunter
May depend on the day of the week. Wahoo!