The Art of The Gank - How to Gank in EVE Online - Astero Stratios Solo PVP EVE Online
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- EVE Online is a space MMORPG made by CCP Games. In EVE Online I enjoy participating in non-consensual solo PVP with other pilots. This video is meant to be a tutorial on how to gank people in EVE online so that you can experience the thrill of solo EVE PVP as well!
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EVE Online is a game where there’s many career paths available to pilots. You can mine ores, manufacture ships and equipment, explore systems and wormholes for hidden and valuable loot, trade in stations with other pilots, scam people, be a pirate, and so much more.
My choice of career is exploring wormholes to fund my love for blowing up other people’s ships. There are times that I fly in fleets with my corporation to work as a group and bring down large PVP targets, but I find myself flying solo and doing solo PVP very often in my spare time.
Most of the time I am killing explorers and pilots doing planetary interaction in wormholes. These are relatively easy targets because their ships are fit defensively rather than offensively. Explorers and PI pilots would much rather get away from being killed than try to fight off the stratios, astero, or stealth bomber that just decloaked on top of them.
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Interesting watch. I don't do pvp personally but I like to know my enemy x)
Exactly, I do exploration and I am always looking for people doing what he is doing here
know your enemy ->
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3 points of scram vs 3 warp core stabs would've still let him warp off. Warp is only disrupted if the equation Warpcore stabs minus points of scram is smaller than zero. The Epithal would've probably gotten out if you didnt bump him. Nice Video btw covers much of the important stuff newbros aren't aware of.
bump?
@@andrewjackson7970 "Bumping" is the act of running into someone to throw them off alignment to keep them from going somewhere (e.g. a gate) or building up enough speed to warp away. For example in highsec you can "bump" bigger ships, like orcas and freighters pretty much forever until your friends are ready to gank him.
Just a poinder - 3 points of warpcore stabilization requires you to reduce it by 4. Only if you are -1 you cannot warp, so the bump did the trick
ship has intrinsic 1 point
when your ship has 0 warp points, it cannot warp.
@@asdf7219 Wrong. Two (non faction) scrams with 4 points are countered by 4 stabs, and the ship can still warp away. It can't warp away if the total is negative, so -1 and lower. If you doubt it, go and actually test it on Sisi or something.
@@otacon1024eah well what im saying is that the ship has an intrinsic 1 point
different interpretations dude... whatever.
Be sure to update your page telling any recruits that they get perks for using your recruiting link. Anyway, all I have to say is...finally a well rounded, simple, explanation of eve game dynamics. Outstanding.
I do wormholes in a fairly unprotected ships, I get ganked 1-in-5 times, it's part of the fun. This was really enjoyable, just seeing what it's like from the other side. I know that most gankers aren't nasty people, they just like the thrill of the hunt. When you go into WHS you buy into the risk volutarily and you take it on the chin if you get ganked, no one holds a gun to your head to make you go into a WH. I do it 'cos losing 15m but making 90m to cover it is worth the work. However I think I like the idea of this...hmmmm...maybe time for a little payback...
Every death is a lesson and it's hard to be mad at gaining knowledge.
at 12.45 in the video.. Decloak as u leave ur perch.. so the timer is mostly up by the time u reach ur target
no ships have different timers ,
also u can be decloaked with drones
If you wait for him to start moving again after landing on the poco you can get his pi stuff as loot depending on what he does that could be a nice kill
Hey, nice video. One small correction at about 10:30
Three stabilizers would have mattered if you had not bumped him, since they do neutralize all three points of warp disruption / scrambling from your faction scram. That's why I use a dual scram setup (one TII, one faction) on my cloaky solo ganking boats: The Magnate and Epithal are prime ganking targets, and they both have four low slots.
KollegeKnusprich - yeah I try to run 4 stabs in the Magnate and 3 in the Anathema. Fortunately I’ve never run into someone that’s successfully scrammed me. Need to stay away from you obviously 😂
“He goes back to high sec happy” ROFL that killed me lmfao
gank
verb (Online, MMORPG usage)
1. To kill another player using a group of players
2. To kill another player using any means that places the played to be killed at a substantial disadvantage.
Now everyone complaining that this isn't a gank shut the hell up. Holy shit.
It also means to take or steal, nerd!
plz do more how to's for this game. I'm trying to learn this game but the learning curve is immense, I've learned a lot but there's still so much
Just a note about your description, that says "I enjoy participating in non-consensual solo PVP". Being in a wormhole is *definitely* consent.
As soon as you undock, you consent to PVP.
As someone who frequently dives into wormholes, if you aren't quadstabbing, you aren't even trying to protect yourself.
Clankplusm Gaming Depends on what your going in with. I 3 man venture gas huff, I have 0 point in running any stabs. If even 1 venture gets out with 2 cycles worth of gas I’ve payed for each ship.
@@clankplusm What does "quadstabbing" mean? I'm kinda new
@@PL-zh7cv 4 warp core stabs, enough to resist a faction scram and a point, or a pair of normal scram.
I do PI in a C1 with an Epithal fit like that last one and he'd have gotten away if he knew what he was doing. I have a perch on-grid with every POCO positioned in such a way that the POCO is in-line between the perch and my safe. This means that I'm pretty much already aligned to the safe when I come out of warp at the POCO.
Doing it this way I'm only at the POCO for about 7 seconds if I'm just picking things up or dropping off. It takes a little longer to do both but not much.
I use off-grid perks for every POCO. Drives them _nuts_ to see me align and warp off, and ... where the fuk is he?
My personal favorite ships for an ambush are the Dual Rep Legion or LASB Tengu. Both are brutal and pack enough punch to take down nearly anything.
Now I had to go and buy the ship and fittings. Can’t quite justify blood scram yet. But it’s ready to go. Thanks for the vid!
i finished my tutorial and i didnt understoon allmost everything u explained, but it was fun to watch :D
This vid: me before I moved to a wormhole. Scan and bm relic sites in your local pocket. Then come back and start running them with probes out. Looks like you haven't scanned and neut scanners most likely will try the next system or may be ballsy enough to try and run sites in system with you. Just wait and decloak on them. Dual scram helps with career scanners who stab; and it allows you opportunity to kill gas huffers.
Or you can just do this in neutral nullsec, but that's risky in active areas.
My fav kill was a 650m scanning instawarp ceptor. I caught them because I spent weeks shit talking them, decloaked while they were typing one day and got lucky.
People like you are why I run 3 or 4 warp core stabs in my cloaky frigates, depending on the hull type. It’s actually kind of funny when someone de-cloaks and try’s to scram me and I warp off grid anyway. I can always imagine them throwing their keyboard off the desk, like “really? 4 fucking points???” 😂 I’m always waiting for the day when I see that smart bomb headed toward me out of nowhere and cant move quick enough, though. Hasn’t happened yet, fortunately.
If you're running a cloaky frig, even without cranking up agiliity/inertia/rigs, you should be able to MWD/Cloak jump trick and be mostly untargetable. Just get your align and warp as low as possible (think >3). It will round up on the second so ignore the decimal once you've reduced the whole number as far as you can. You might as well run that with a T2 Frigate with immunity to interdiction (bubble prevention) and you can run that sucker all over the place.
Spencer Reiser - yeah, sorry, I meant exploratizon frigates rather than just a travel interceptor. For me it was more about getting jumped on the cans than traveling through gate camps in these ships. I do tend to run something that aligns faster these days, though. It’s kind of a toss up how you want to run your low slots in these pure exploration ships. Stabs? Nanos? Cargo? If I’m honest, I’ve been using a more balanced fit Stratios more often than anything for exploring when Ive played recently (which hasn’t been much since the New Year, really). A lot of the ships I ran multiple warp core stabs on were T1 frigates like the Anathema, exploring nullsec in the days before before I could run covert ops and the like. Those were fun times, though.
@@acegh0st It's always a toss up between cloaky and risk lag gank or instalock, ceptor and risk smartbombs or hauler and need a scout and it still has its own issues. I just use a logistics corp.
I got my first Astero kill in a C3 red giant(+44% buff to bombs) in a Hound. I one shotted him with a bomb. I was surprised. Probably not as surprised as he was.
OMG poor Anathema what a criminal :O
After seeing clips like this I'm very glad I dedicate my time to any other game but this one. Kenshi, new vegas, tropico, civilization. But never this.
I felt the exact same way until a few weeks ago. One of my friends at work talked me into trying it out and I got hooked lol 😂 if you enjoy the others stick to them! Those game may take your money, but Eve takes your soul
In the last gank, note that because your target successfully hacked a can, the site will despawn within the hour. It's good to clear out the wrecks one you pop your target, but you can only camp that site for one hour after the first can got hacked. Too bad you didn't go for that drake...it looks like he was ratting with all the wrecks on dscan. He was doing guardian sites and combat sites judging by the wrecks on dscan.
and if a can has been hacked no sensible explorer is going in there
Good video, love the explanation for new players.
Tip - webbing makes slow ships warp out faster, so unless youre expecting a turbo industrial, just scram.and bump it for better effect (web also dampens bumps)
Huh... never knew that about webs and bumping. Thanks for the tip.
There has been a few changes since this video was made. You cant stay cloaked for more than 15 min at a time now and only one warp core stab can be fitted to ship and now its an active module. Its actually harder to gank people this way but it is also harder to get away if you do get ganked.
I don't know if you're referring to non covert cloaks here as I do not use them. I use the covert cloaks and the 15m timer does display but you do remain cloaked after the 15m is up..
@@AutonomousDonk I was wrong
A friend of mine used to use the Cormorant for that stuff. Personally I love the Thrasher. More interesting meta.
Your really making the world a better place man I hope your happy with your life at the end of it..
He's not impacting the world at all; he's playing a video game.
If you dont want to lose your ship, dont play eve. fucks sake people its not that hard to understand. You consent to pvp as soon as you click undock
The salt is palpable.
It is the PvP that drives the market and makes the vulnerable play profitable/worth while. But listening to him talk, I get the impression he would enjoy kicking his dog.
Wingspan Torpedo Delivery Service! This is my corp as we. Just came back after a few years break.
Pretty sure you killed me :)
3 points of stab counters 3 points of scram, the bump was required fro your second kill.
the Cerberus is a damn good ship i used to have one they are great for pve and also pvp because of all there missile buffs
nice vid, i hope u still making this type of vid for 2020 :D
Thanks for this video man it inspired me to try this out!
Warp stabs are +1 to warp core. You have 1 in most ships to begin with. so 1 + 3 = 4.
Totally inspiring. Thx!
Loved this video, great job Negark. Was wondering how viable is this still? I just recently came back to the game and got myself an astero. What rigs do you recommend?
What happens if you get into a harder engagement with no armor rep?
Ganking happens in high-sec. Everywhere else it's called pvp.
Yeah
No
In order for it to be player vs player both have to fight. If the victim is not given a chance to fight back, and its all one sided, its ganking.
@@scomcco eve is all time pvp. you are never safe. expect your decease
What happen to ya Negark? You make good stuff. Or you used to anyway. Miss ya!
could we maybe get the fit your using so we can build it?
hi mate just a question ... those kills, don't they push your security status into minus numbers ? how do you keep your status in plus ? thanks (btw interesting video and commentary)
No security consequences in wormhole space.
To each their own, but I have never found this to be fun. Don't get me wrong, pvp is cool, and large battles are amazing, but ganking players, especially new players or players just doing their own thing is boring to me. But I get it, this is what Eve is all about.
I'm new to eve ganking and I enjoy this idea of WH ganking, as I'm searching around it seems most of the data sites I'm finding have NPCs on them it seems like I'd have trouble ganking if we're both attacked but at the same time I don't want to touch the site so it's not sus. Any ideas would be great, thanks.
"He went back to high-sec happy"
Oh really, you think he was thrilled?
this player is teaching the way to do it BUT also there killing off the new starters for the hell of it..its really a game of how long can you survive
I've always wanted to do this kind of thing in eve, but I don't understand. The graphic covers your "local"...why are these people just puttering around doing missions or whatever they're doing in nullsec with a red in the system? I'm assuming you're red(pirate). Do they know and just don't care? Is this part of some new system where they can't tell? (yes I haven't played in ages).
The people he’s hunting, they are explorers. They’re in a space called wormhole space where there is no local chat (so you can’t tell how many or if anyone is even in the system) these systems are profitable for exploring, aka doing relic or data sites, or even mining or gas harvesting. In eve, you already know that number one rule “Don’t undock what you can’t afford to lose.” because PvP can happen anywhere. Since it’s wormhole space there’s no concord to protect you, so you’re entitled to greet engage anyone you please. Explorers are easy prey, well if they aren’t bait, and are typically hunted by other people such as gankers.
It’s also profitable hunting them, as you get a percentage of the loot they’ve dropped from doing missions and the satisfying feeling of a successful hunt.
Question on the Astero fit...two reppers, no cap bat or booster... how long will that last with both reps going??
hahah, good question
true.. won't last long.. maybe 1-2 min max... but usually asteros doesn't last long in a fight either lol... either u kill quick or die quick :) ..
Until the end of the battle. Ok, next question!
One ancillary rep usually, one regular rep. You can single-click cycle your armor rep and once you've loaded paste the AAR has impressive stats, the only part that sucks is loading new paste, 60 seconds. You can overheat it AARs for solid benefits and you can run them without paste in an emergency but you'll drop cap like nobody's business. People use this double rep in leui of plates to keep their ships agile. I prefer two reppers, one ancillary and a damage control. So long as you keep your armor HP low and resistances up, your reppers will be more effectives. You will have to micromanage your reppers in a fight-- that's a disadvantage as well.
How was that first target not able to warp away? I get that he warp scrambles him but the target hade 2 warp core stabs equipped so he should have been able to warp away.
How do you stop someone from warping away ?
Warp scramblers, warp disrupters and warp disruption field generators. Also bumping them from aligning
Had an Astero gank me in a data site not long ago. Not combat probes. Dude was just waiting.....you?
If you can't be good, be good at it!
don't align to sun even when if you are cloaky. align to a planet with moons on it so it takes longer for people to find you.
you only warp to sun when you want to fight something.
Look here... I just got away from Eve and moved on to another MMO... Why are you doing this to me!
Ok. I dug this. This was cool. Thanks dude. I would watch more of these for sure!
you have the fitting anywhere to look at it ingame?
the ads is also eve online
may u give us fit of both ships? really interested in astero one
Try this:
[Astero, Buzzkeel]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Small Armor Repairer II
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer,Nanite Repair Paste
5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Shadow Serpentis Warp Scrambler
Warp Scrambler II
Small Capacitor Booster II,Navy Cap Booster 200
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Sisters Core Probe Launcher
Small Anti-Explosive Pump I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Warrior II x8
Warrior II x2
Hobgoblin II x5
@@kebman 2 scrams and no webs???
Not sure your stratios can handle a good ham drake, but would be a fun fight :)
A lot of ratting drakes don't apply damage well because the pilots go for heavy duty tanks to deal with sleepers. Also a lot of us fly gecko's so the drake would have an overwhelmed passive tank, a lot of neut pressure, and it wouldn't be applying much in the way of damage. It would likely die but it would take a bit.
so you just go wormhole to wormhole and gank people, lol i love eve online
Really good video :)
Hi there, thanks for the video. I was wondering if you could tell me if the Astero has a good chance at fighting a stratios. Ive had a few opportunities at ganking them but i always wuss out. Cheers :)
straight hero pvp.scanners and Indians kill.Bravo.
there's a clinical diagnosis for behavior like this. it's called "sadistic psychosis".
U just mad cuz bad. Git gud scrub!
The new kids are calling all unexpected pvp ganking these days
What is your rigs in stratios ?
Could u link the fit or just list it?
would be nice if you had of posted the fits you were using
zkillboard.com/kill/61046100/ will solo any co-ops frigates.
i was thinking the same lol
LOL in World of Warships we call Ganking Sealclubbing. Impressive how you kill a much much weaker opponent.
they are not ganks just normal kills
Wrong. This is a gank, and for some reason people that play eve are the only ones who don't get that... play any other MMO. A Gank is engaging in pvp with an unwilling participant, sort of like rape. Weather its a gang of ships jumping on a ratter, or a solo stratios killing exploration/p.i. ships it is a gank, as the other ship was unaware and got caught. A common definition would be "GANK (in a video game) use underhand means to defeat or kill (a less experienced opponent)." A good example is in Moba's as well, if someone roams or the jungler comes out and kills an unsuspecting player who was trying to clear a wave or back then they got "ganked". Get learnt, stay woke.
@@jeremyspanski2957 lol you just wrote a book about ganking, but yet you did not explain anything. Ganking is not about experienced, it about kill same ppl over and over and over and over.
@@MegaWolfch you just made possibly the stupidest comment. The same people over and over? So you have to know your ganker before its a gank? Please refrain from making stupid comments
Thanks.
@@jeremyspanski2957 I laugh at how stupid you are, you think this video shows the real source ganks, today's kids put everything in one piece. YOU DID PLAY true pvp games to know what is gank.
Agreed. Ganking in EVE is the art of destroying a ship in a NONE PVP area, IE highsec.
This is just a normal kill. EVE is based around risk and reward. there are more rewards in low, null and wormhole space because it goes without saying that people are in that area looking to kill you. regardless what ship your in, everything but high sec is a PVP area.
pod destroyer, pah
Deal with it, bitch.
Any Obote got a system they recommend to gank
What’s that fit?
and Ganking is why I no longer play this game
If you play carefully and prepared, you can't really be caught ? even without cloak.
I never got caught in a t1 Explorer and I don't have cloak.
I had some close calls, someone managed to shotgun his probes to my safe without me spotting them, warped to me, but I was prealigned to another safe and at microwarp speed he landed 100+ km off.
I got caught once in an empty venture by a cloaked interdictor, (i was trying to retrieve a wreck's loot) but yeah I expected that.
Last, when I did some ganking on my own, the only explorers I caught were people unaware of the dangers of pvp, not noticing my combat probes (even tho I'm bad at combat scanning, often takes me 2-3 scans, that's 30 seconds they could have spotted me !)
What ship are you using?
He said it multiple times in the video
Even sometimes being gank by others... at least just losing venture most of the time 😂
how do you even lose a venture
Remember to remove the data/relic analyzers and non useful pvp mods when hunting, that mid slot makes a difference when in use instead of just being a place holder in a fight
Fits?
What's the shortcut for drones to engage?
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How to keep a low sec system to yourself? Just go in there and launch your combat probes, then do your own thing lol.
Why even bother with killing the wrecks? I see no point in it (unless I missed something "new" in the last few years, getting back into the game atm).
Xirtax basically the reason he did it was so that no one could see a wreck in that data site he also wouldn't run the datasite so that it attracts more people if that makes sense.
Will this work with alpha account in low sec?
No. Alpha account's can't use cloaks. if you want some fun lowsec drone PvP try a tristan.
I don't think he will be particularly happy when he spawn back to hi sec lol
Good set up but I've always went to low to fight but I see the best way to get kills are to go for targets that dont fight back in high
yeah but in HS you get dabbed on by concord whereas in wh's its anarchy
@@ohgodhehasairpodsin7116 I rather the Anarchy but alot of gankers KM only have high sec kills then say dont get mad its part of ther game. Dont talk ish when you dont fly low or null to get a real fight
@@barronholmes7337 I mean their whole point is to mine salt or they gank for profit.
Can you share your Fit?
Nm, didn't see the drones
Gud ganks squire, gud ganks!
can we see your strat fit?
No. But here's a Wingspan strat.
[Stratios, Wingspan]
Damage Control II
Centum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Sentient Drone Damage Amplifier
Centum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Corelum C-Type 10MN Afterburner
Thukker Large Capt Battery
Caldari Navy Stasis Webifier
Thukker Large Cap Battery
Caldari Navy Warp Scrambler
Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Sisters Core Probe Launcher
Small Energy Neutralizer II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Auxilliary Nano Pump II
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
You ganked a PI ship. you literally can't even carry loot. Literally all you did is waste some time in someone's life well done!
He helped stimulate the economy. It was a net good.
Gank = gang attack" which this is not. This is killing a harmless guy running a pve site
nope, it means to defeat or kill (usually a less experienced opponent)
@@foee Should that not be chanceless opponent? Maybe these guys were super experienced but flying a non-combatant ship??
why are you hitting and destroying the ship salvages? you already destroyed thi ship and killed the pilot @Negark
Video Title : The Art of gank
*proceeds to kill defenseless ships 😂
U just mad cuz bad lel
a name of G-gurda LOOOOL
Hmm I just call it sniping your in a sniper like position and striking a single target from cloak
Over 300kills in my astero hunting sites 😈
Trust me if you pod him he's not going to high happy lol
Bad fits on both stratios and astero, don't use em.
can you share a good fit fine sir?
they look decent to me.. and he is in Wingspan who are good in stratios and asteros lol... calm down sir :P ..
BigBoi1290 lol id solo his stratios in my 250m astero man it's not only buffer but it doesn't have a call battery so he'll also lose point if he tries to stick on grid
This is really disturbing that you call a simple kill a gank, a gank is not a regular kill... There's ganks where you come and alpha people, there ok, but even then most people will call it a blob/gatecamp/etc, and there is the suicide gank which you probably know, anyway nice vid, probably very cool for newbros, very informative gg !
The players in question did not see it coming, and certainly did not undock to try and fight anyone. It was a gank. Get learnt.
Make same but in Eve echoes, my stratios have 5 mid slots, 4 warp scream and 1 Web, oponent must have more than 16 warp stability if he want run away 😁
thats not a gank, just a normal kill. there is no need for warpscrambler if you truly want to be a ganker.
lol...you are talking of oneshot hsec gate ganking or what? ... beside oneshot ganks you always need a scram or bubbles...
Though guys from high sec always crack me up.
That's not ganking.
Yes it is. Eve players living in their own universe, play any other game or perhaps simply google the definition of gank. Coming out of nowhere and killing someone who had no idea it was coming is most definitely in the category of a gank.
Looks like you're just re-enacting one of JonnyPew's videos - same topic, same ships with kinda the same fitting, same "you gotta destroy the wreck afterwards"
You could say that about every game that has a content creator because people are going to do videos on the game and this is a very popular part of the game so people are going to do that so he does something similar to do another content creator he's not actually copying he's doing his version in his style
or he is... well, just copying
How was he dealing damage to the first ship?
Drones
Thanks
-1 Dosen't know what a Cerberus is.