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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ธ.ค. 2018
- Professional, competitive video game playing-the phenomenon known as esports-has seen double digit growth for much of the past decade. With a massive following, many say it will soon become an official Olympic event. Throughout the U.S., high schools are launching competitive gaming clubs, and even some colleges are offering scholarships to top players.
It’s a dream come true for professional esports players-traveling the world and paid salaries to play video games full time for a living.
But as money continues to pour into the industry, the pressure on these young pros-many still in their teens-is leading to early burnout from high stress, repetitive stress injuries, and grueling practice schedules.
In this episode of CBSN Originals, we follow pro esports players Doublelift (League of Legends) and Space (Overwatch) as they compete for glory, get an inside look at what it takes to be pro, and explore the risks many are taking to stay at the top.
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0:53 "too long meaning, how many hours?"
_"Like 8 hours"_
*Those are rookie numbers son*
The God-Emperor of Mankind literally, 8 hours of a game is what I used to do when I was 13 and that’s just after school until I went to sleep for school the next morning, nevermind weekends.
You gotta pump those numbers up
You people know there is more to it and are trolling right?
Because he has dicipline
8 hours straight playing supercompetitive for improving skill is completely exhausting, but for chilling playing around with no rules is not really tired
Lol "gamer mom" and "gamer dad"
Lmao. Should just label it "supportive mom" and "supportive dad"
Y'know. Like what good parents should do. . .lol
"You're a master at Genji"
Your job never signifies your nature
parents only being supoortive until they see money in it.
see if they will support you if you are only a bronze and never win any prize.
they just got to flex "my son is top 200 in north america and won a 100k prize"
they sent their kids to piano lesson because they think they can flex on that or to keep up with the jons
So true. If parents would take the time to understand what was involved and listen to their kids it’s would be a different story.
There are millions of "gamers" around the world. Very few make it pro, what those parents are are realistic, if your son is spending hours a day and at the age of 18,19 is not semi pro then they're wasting their time.
talking about league and how league is a very competitive game, shows him playing wow..
I was thinking the same thing lol
I can imagine the manager and the crew being like “so this is league of legends?”
Well computer gamers play alot of diffrent games so i understand it.
Video editor isn't a gamer
Bruh he's dad of the year playing wow with him.
“I'm not just playing games for fun anymore” feels like loss of true purpose of gaming.
I mean I think that if you can have fun while playing a game that you want to go pro in (meaning like just playing like you would normally do but maybe add a bit of reviewing your videos). Idk
Yup when you go competitive then you lost the fun part, ask any professional athlete, interest and talent help build the skill, but then you use that skill to win, play to win is not the same as play to have fun, only a handfull lucky elites that can say honestly they play to win while still having fun...
@@fahmiluthfi7991 well when you become pro it also becomes a job since you have to train for hours and travel most of the time.
Lasting for a bit, a couple years ago, I lost the fun aspect. Until I started competitive gaming again. But now I can play other games for fun after I take a break from competition.
people play soccer for fun, and people play soccer at a high level.
Respect to parents who support their child's passion and dreams, and the gamers who work so hard to achieve their dreams in e-Sports, amidst misconceptions, discriminations and prejudice.
Where’d you see discrimination and prejudice? Getting called nerds?
@@drewcausey8441 A simple Google search would have given you all the answers you need. 😊
These guys definitely only support him because they see the results. Didn’t you see how I immediately googled the wage before saying how he felt.
Lol, a gaming and a bts Fan. Hmu
@@thatfangirl1389 yeah, we gamers are too epic to get bullied! epic win gamers!
A pretty nicely done documentary. Covers the multiple sides of esports pretty well with multiple perspectives. Hope to see more like this
I think its one of few time the reporters actually has interest in their own stories.
Better than the vice one, I'll tell you that.
Bots4 Breakfast the VICE one is just a guy dragging kids into a nightclub
Gaming chairs are the ultimate scam.
Lies lies AND MORE LIES
Regular office chairs are 100x better, even though i got my gaming chair for like 70 bucks on Amazon and its actually decent lol...woo-hoo Chinese child labor for cheap goods!
@@ATLTraveler what chair did u get? Office and gaming cahirs are usually expensive but anythings better than my kitchen chair
@@natedog805402 i actually just got one on sale at office Max for like $160, its soooo comfy, but the Amazon gaming one is the s-racer super popular one on Amazon. Its $140 actually not $70, but close enough.
@@seriall-eo3bq Nah gaming equipment is even being phased into offices. Gaming mouses, keyboards, headphones, microphones, are some of the best quality at an ok price. Office equipment which is pretty much the only other kind, is either cheap garbage, or great quality but super expensive.
i wish i had a oriental father to whisper courage in my ear when i play apex lol
You do!..., confucious is watching over you right now.......
When he was freaking out during the shooting range 10:30
@@simpsi3790 right? Like wtf
If you play apex you are not a gamer
That father wasn’t Asian 😂 any Asian parent would dishonour you if you even play games for a whole day.
this is actually some really good reporting. cudos to cbsn for getting it right. W for esports fans everywhere.
So was every other sport.
kudos*
Pro Player: " I play games Too Long "
Reporter: How Long?
Pro Player: "8 Hours"
Me an intellectual Watching youtube for 16 hours staright
Joseph 065 he is wasting 16 hours a day and still a professional,?
ah same
Jobless
If that's really tough for him, he's gonna be in for a major shock when he gets a normal job....
me working at my job for 8 hours.
Remember 2015 when Hollywood laughed at us? Remember Jimmy? We've proven them all wrong.
Morten Kjell Reitan if you set your mind & soul to anything you can do anything you want
Ahah prove. wrong? Esports is still not a sport. And it still does not challenge real sports. Literally not even close.
wow pow if u suck at it just admit u 1k mmr bronze normie
@@wowbruh2511 in terms of market. Esports is totally winning
@@xxhaizenxxplays1694 I'm right. Not opinion its literally facts. Esports has grown a lot, but it's still not even close to real sports and the media still hates it
and then my dad talks me down when I talk about esports but gives me hella motivation and courage when I talk about the NBA lol
Just be a professional 2k player then
NBA is way more of a long shot for making money, but it would be healthier to practice basketball for life than to wreck your wrists and back before 25.
@@rm9308 the realities of injury as an NBA player are still greater than a Gamer though.
I don't think so at the pro level. Plenty of aging pro gamers are getting nerve damage in their hands and dessicated discs in their backs, similar in effect on quality of life to the NBA guys with no cartilage in their knees. Look at the older crowd and you'll see guys like Qudans with a wrist brace and Notail massaging his wrists. The NBA guys can hire drivers and physiotherapists, etc., but old gamers will be working at Gamestop if they don't win any big tournaments and invest properly.
@Samraj Rai Please elaborate
“Expected to go over 50% of that in 2020...”
2020 - “hold my corona.”
I'll just stick to making shoddy Overwatch montages, no thanks
Esports is TOUGH!
I want to like but it's at 69
😂
To be a professional player you need a good pc, good internet and paents that understands your passion. And sadly, some of us don't have that.
Honestly, you only need a good PC, if the game you're planning to pro is modern
For example, a game from 2009, you wouldn't require that good of a PC for it.
You get what i'm saying?
@@waffles7z if you are then not allowed to play frequently at all because of your parents then a good pc means absolutely nothing
@@levitatingbeast9942 i mean being a pro is also basically impossible in those circumstances
Basically recipe for success for every big pay job but little recognition. Like athlete, parents would say go study youre wasting your time
There are other things in life
Can we get a dad of the year for the guy at 9:47 doing wow raids with his son.
The cruel thing I've noticed about Esports is that the gamer's careers last a year or two. They train for hours, days, weeks, months, and years. All to just be kicked out of the team and being replaced by someone else, it's pretty rare to see a gamer last long in the gaming industry. It breaks my heart that most of the kicked players tend to end up homeless, depressed, suicidal, etc. They should be paid more to be able to go back into a normal life, so they can start over without gaming. I hope people get to see the dark side of the gaming industry and how many people end up in a depressing loop.
i work in the computer industry so i see glimpse of the esport industry cause our company has pooled money into these tournaments and sponsorship as well...
while i am a pc gamer myself since late 80s lets also bring it back down to reality a bit.. like any other "pro" sport base only small small handful makes it to the pro.. just like football, basketball and other sports.. while you can play up to college and some pro-am only few few will earn the big dollars..
i am down for kids wanting to play games and be best as they can.. but do not dropout or not finish school... cause you will need some sort of backup plan in life..
becoming a twitch streamer and make energy drink ads
Agree, eSports are not really good profession. I would be more accepting if they choose to be professional board game player or professional card game player.
@John doue Quebec But now most every young kids are game addict. They don't even care about school. Even now there is a therapy for game addict. This is really concerning.
@John doue Quebec if they can add 4D effects in eSports, it may burn some calories lol
@@707kuma3 considering the average gamer age is mid 20s or 30s..no its not a problem. Gaming addiction exists in people the same way any addiction does. Work, school, knowledge, academics, food, racing, other types of games, youtube, reading, workouts. All cause addictions and do you know why? Simple, they all release numerous chemicals that give that hype and that feeling of oh yes. The same way hunting or fishing or playing sports or learning new instruments do. Dopamine is one of the chemicals released and humans are often addicted to such a feeling the same way drugs do as well.
Perceptions have changed so much in gaming in the past 20 years. From being a "dead-end hobby" to an appreciation of the serious commitment involved to reach the professional level.
I was there for this last years Overwatch when the USA finally won the championship. The energy in the arena was amazing!
To see parents supporting their kids in terms of understanding choices in life is new for me. Max respect
Yeah, that's really cool that schools are offering scholarships for competitive gaming. Imagine students receiving full rides to represent their colleges/universities and drafted on professional teams after they finish their degrees 🎓
As a big overwatch fan and a person who follows it a lot it was really weird to relive stuff like the World Cup from 9 months ago and be like he was there! Really good balanced documentary. Nice to see media giving esports a fair look now
Disappointed that the Starcraft series was not mentioned.
1) It’s the longest running esport game, starting in 1998.
2) It’s ranked #1 in popularity for the RTS genre.
3) It is often considered the most difficult (highest theoretical skill cap) eSport game in the world with its wide variety of skills required like APM, multitasking, reaction time, precision, game awareness.
Feel bad for Space... Valiant literally did not win a game in the 2nd season of Overwatch League. Lost to the Shanghai I’m pretty sure
They recently just got a win in season 2. Also Shanghai isn't as bad as they were last season
well things changed quite a bit didnt it
Valiant actually started winning in stage 2/3 now 4
Not sure if you heard but Space was transferred to Gladiators in preparation for season 3
I don't know if I could ever thank you for making this video. Such an informative piece of content. Such in dept analysis, such great use of cameras and other resources to make it this amazing. Using as many words as I can will not describe the beauty of this entire artwork, I shall conclude wishing you guys more power 🔥 grow as big as you possibly can @eSports 😋
Literally this is the best insight into the esport industry than ever before., it provides a new perspective of a subject in dispute.
Nice doc, they should definitely make a longer one I enjoyed this
@P. Spit thats why they should definitely make a longer one, i enjoyed this.
What I've come to realize is that most parents, like mine as well, are from the 90's era and so forth. And gaming back then was just born and not as mainstream as nowadays, so it's understandable why many parents wouldn't encourage their children to pursue this type of career. Of course, there are exceptions like the kid's father who encourages him in this video.
However, when we become parents, or if you're already a parent yourself and you yourself are a gamer, whether you're a casual one or not. I reckon "we", as in my generation and the generation after mine will have an easier time approving this career than our parents. Also, I'm positive that Esports is going to grow even bigger in the future, as well as gaming in general.
Anyway, that's what I think.
My parents suck
oh easily it will blow up even more than in 2022
100% I'm gonna be that Smurf 60-70 year old Grandpa that be killing these noobs in pubs. Then, later in Dinner I'll dab in front of my kids and tell them to hold this L for getting cooked by me. LOL
Found this after watching the Kings avatar, so interesting!
Read the novel after the animation, just..... worth it...
It's wonderful
Lol, came from the show on Netflix. I'm so excited that this is real. I've always wanted to try being a pro gamer, and this gives me hope in my decision.
Wait there's actually a World record of "First Professional Gamer" if it's a record how can that be even broken?!
By being the last one. :D
It is really unbelievable how much money there is in such e-sports events. A game suddenly turns teenagers into millionaires. It's really unbelievable to see how advanced e-sports are at the moment. The emotions and the fans are exactly the same in esports as in real sports, which surprised me a lot
True that bro, it's a growing industry. More and more money is flowing into e-sports. People all around the world are starting to get interested and it is getting a lot of attention lately. Through this lucrative business, more and more e-sportlers are now getting the change to get a lot of money. Furthermore it gives people the chance to meet new people and join clubs where they can get better. I am sure the industry will still grow in the upcoming years.
"I'm a 24 year old retired sports athlete. Had to retire because of a career ending injury."
"Wow. What was the injury?"
"Burning sensation in my thumb"
@Adjective for esport professional, your thumb being injured is like having your leg injured in a soccer game.
Hahahaha 🤣 eSports starts sounding dumb when people try to make it professional sports. Come on people admit it video game tournaments were WAY more fun when it was just us and our gang of friends betting on who has to pay for the cyber cafe. It was way more fun when it was dumb fun to be had in a lazy afternoon, don't ruin it.
@@crimsonstrykr I know right? I remember when games just used to be something me and gang just chilled to and trashed talked about each other with, ahh the good times.
@@crimsonstrykr not when million of dollars are at stake and the game mechanics are becoming way too complex and change by the minute. But yeah, I liked it just as well when it's just dumb fun lmao
I mean there were people that legit lost sensation in their hands and fingers because they put too much stress on them. Carpal tunnel syndrome is a very common thing among pros and six pro players actually had pneumothorax, their lungs collapsed. So yeah, it's better to stop when you get the early symptoms rather than risking a limb.
insanely great video, different perspectives and different parts of esports.
those two supportive parents are something soo many others would die for.
In overwatch, it might be the devs( or blizzard) that holds the monetary value for those teams, but in csgo, its entirely different. The sponsors hold it. Dont go and generalize it like that. 17:57
If Valve decided to stop support for CS:GO and shuts down the servers everybody involved with the scene will suddenly lose their job. They hold no power. Not the sponsors, not the teams and not the players. I can always go and play football but Valve decides if I can always go and play CS:GO.
@@iliketacos518 Yeah, only by valve saying that. Event organizers can still invite them. The money still comes from third party companies and sponsors.
Sugar not gonna happen lol
Kieran permanently banned players for breaking the rules, similar to how footballers get banned for cheating (like drug use etc)
Crazy, because back then I was a TOP 500 Overwatch player. Due to an injury on my elbow, I lost my natural ability of fluid movements. Before that I played for a lot prize money as a high schooler getting anywhere between $150-500 per tournament. Tallying up my earnings it ended up being 9,275 USD in less than 8 months. It may not seem like a lot compared to what players make now as professionals, but for a higher schooler who played over 75+ tournaments I can say it took a toll and it wasn't even "pro." I wanted to hit pro and go higher when I graduated high school due to that injury it crippled me not only physically... more mentally. You could see yourself get worse, worse, and worse as time goes by. The burnout is super serious which is why I support Esports whenever I can. Later, this year my college will have a team as well so I'm hoping to see tryouts. Very good article! Please do more!
Wow Those are the most supportive parents I've ever seen, thos is truly hartwarming
and this is the most important! People do not know how much more powerful u are in your doings when your parents are supporting u
"I'm not just playing a game for fun anymore." It's cool they can make a living playing games, but that last line is the most telling. Games were designed to be fun, not work!!
Same goes for any kind of traditional sport, doesn‘t it? Cristiano Ronaldo is playing Football because it‘s his job, not because it‘s particularly fun - Not anymore at least.
@@sugar5374 Indeed. I just find it interesting the route that it's gone.
So were sports but why do we have professional sports players like those who play in NBA or NFL who make their living there?
its still a game. And it is still fun, its the stakes thats becoming bigger
Not all games have fun in mind, other games are alot more focused on stories and on delivering a sense of dread and a difficult challenge. Other are more out of artistic expression.
Shout out to the host guy for not just yelling about how it's not a sport since you don't sweat.
9:17 for fgc people: remember when punk’s family supported him and showed up at evo 2017? That was amazing.🙏
Can't watch now, gotta grind
Respect to parents who support their child's passion and dreams, and the gamers who work so hard to achieve their dreams in e-Sports, amidst misconceptions, discriminations and prejudice. Also I hope esport will get more popular and that people understand how hard it is to be great at it because of the big competition.
finally a video that talks about the advantages AND disadvantages
wow seeing that support from the parents made me cry
no crying, go study
I'll just stick to making shoddy Overwatch montages, no thanks
*Esports is TOUGH!*
@Samraj Rai you really are only here to hate on gamers without elaborating/making a point
@Samraj Rai my dude, read the comment again
Samraj Rai literally watching a video on esports and hates people that want to play games and make a living out of it 😂😂
Samraj Rai Not very nice
lol imagine getting serious on overwatch :v
"gamer mom"
Just like any other professional
YOU HAVE TO DO YOU BEST AND GIVE IT ALL!!!
be brave be the best and DREAMS come TRUE!
I respect those who are in the Esports industry, it is not an easy job.
"Roses are Red,
Violets are Blue,
There's always an Asian Better Than You."
not csgo
You are right 😲
ASIA is a big continent so must be more specific
What if Im Asian.......
@@simpsbelongtothegulags3702 Dude I'm Asian too. But I know there's another one better than me in everything.
I couldn’t handle the online pressure. I game for fun and I’m more than happy with that.
5:20 Thanks for including the pens in that scene.
Wow, this games and tournaments are just few years apart, just a decade I think. Now imagine the future, imagine what games they would play, imagine how grand the venues are
beautifully directed
i swear, i wish my parents would appreciate the fact than iam obsessed with gaming back in the days. no one stood by my side while i playing a esport game and may notice some talent or smtn.
Im 28 and i still game like im 18! Grind never stops until you stop!
i stopped gaming when i was 16 years old. i was fine at first but i started to have withdrawal systems. I felt giddy at times and even un-content with myself. Felt like i was wasting, had difficulty staying awake even when i slept a full 7-9 hours of sleep. So i turned to drugs, thanks to drugs i am no longer addicted gaming. Thank you drugs for turning my life around
Ahmen brother.😆
Why is dota 2 not here, largest prize in esports history
Dota 2 is far too complex and hard to perform well for casual gamers compared to League of Legends
@benhur ambrosio one of the person who developed LoL was a former modder of Dota.
Miyaki Akinia nonetheless league is more popular and better than dota
@@singaporeseaslugs1393 because it is simple. Also the champions system gets the curiosity out of people to get them and trying it out and eventually mastering them, whereas all the heroes in dota is already free from the get go but offers many cool cosmetics for very little price compared to what league has to offer. Basically League is for casual faster paced gaming, while games of dota can take hours where the level of competitiveness is real
CashZero That’s because only the prize pool of Dota 2 is huge. The salary, housing, retirement plans and financial security of the player isn’t looked after. Riot Games did an excellent job of making the standard of living of the players as secure as possible. They designed their scene in such a way that even if you don’t win, you still end up being rich through your salaries and endorsements.
Whereas Dota 2 players HAVE to win to make big money. I believe Valve has also redesigned their scene recently so that pro players earn a lot through salaries, but for the most part Dota 2 players didn’t exactly have financial security unless they won the World Championship.
I think it’s not about if you can spend hours playing video games or not, it’s about if you can spend hours performing quality work and putting in a lot of energy and effort and competing and energy. It’s a lot of brain power.
Impressed that Alabama has two school E sports programs. Proud that my state recognizes this as a path for people
Showing how competititve League is and generally talking about League mad this documentary so much fun to watch. Gonna play a game of LOL now 2 :P
I hope all parents are as supportive as Connor's in terms of esports
like c'mon if someone's happy with something, let them be
Wish my parents can support me using drugs🤣🤣🤣it makes me happy
Cool dad and family right there. A very American family! ❤️
Great job on this. No bias and not one sided
talking about league, they feature him playing wow... lol
Andy too many puns lmao🤣🤣🤣
7:53 Lol Surgical Goblin there 😂
Cr
Good video for people who don't understand how much time and effort pro gamers put in and how it's not a waste of time.
damn i love the chemistry conner has with his dad
I'm a parent and have been an avid gamer for almost 36 years. Unfortunately for me LOL over the years has caused multiple issues with both of my sons especially in terms of schooling. I had to completely disable the internet at home at one point.
Why pursue schooling when you can make millions in eSports? If you had given your kids more leeway, they would've been able to obtain sufficient skill to compete.
@@isshin6202 That like a one in 500000 dude, not everyone can just be a prop
I too play (CSGO). I admit it had a negative impact on my first year of college. Everything in moderation 👍
Best life:
1.wakin up at morning qt 5
2.working out for 3 hrs
3.gaming for 8 hrs
4.spending time with frnds at evng
5.sleep by taking a lovely kiss from ur mother😊
You dont need to work out for 3 hours. 2 hours, or even less is enough
@@tramnguyen0000 I guess you refer to lifting, then yes but what if he goes for a run and swimms or something 3 hours can be spend very effectively outside of lifting weights.
@@50733Blabla1337 i still think if you run or swim for 3 hours its still too much
@@tramnguyen0000 Well if you count changing etc and wrming up you get to 3h pretty quick if you run swim and lift. But ye 3hours is on the very very high side you are right.
@@50733Blabla1337 lifting 😱
CBS really went all out on this, the twitch dude, a bunch of gamers, and Steve Cohen!
Mamma and pappa playing games and now are 2 kids is also playing games with us. Love playing games hope my kids can also doing good in that.
My parents always hated gaming and never wanted me to play any game but once I got time to play CSGO and I played just like a pro my friends were shocked but I didn't knew how did I play I think gaming is god gifted to me that my hands are set on gaming in any device
I'm Getting Bigger in this World.....& I'm Happy
What are some top 5 teams across the big games where their players don’t live together? I’m really curious about this, whether or not “living together” is conducive to winning.
special force guys all kive together
There must be some serious money in Esports because this guy couldn't make a layup to save his life and Nike gave him his own shoes.
I mean there was esport tornament that 20 mil plus prize if they win
Love how they talk about league but show wow footage...
Respect to the parents supporting their kids dreams💯🗣️
Random thought: would compression sleeves help prevent or mitigate wrist injury?
3:27 good ole potelter
“I can’t handle the stress!”
- Guests mom
Bruh he’s in the practice range
My view they need to have a scheduled physical fitness program. They can have this 3-4 times a week for about 2hrs each with appropriate time for rest and recovery. Constant game playing could lead to repetitive strain problems especially in the wrists. Fitness programs should definitely help them stay in the game longer...no pun intended.
Just love watching this type of documentary's ❤️
What do you have to say to those who don't know what Esports are?
- Win once and be set for 4 years without touching a cash register or being yelled at, at starbucks xD
Never knew practice range was so intense. Guess gotta spend more time there to go pro. 10:30
All sports requires grind to be the best in that field
Pretty good documentary, but smaller esports are incredibly underrepresented here. This documentary barely looks at any other games besides the two big boys, Overwatch and League, while there are many less funded esports, where players engage in the very same grind and challenge but they don't have a coach, or a psychologist, or a team house, or six figure salaries.
My only dream in world is to work with this guys or even play with them... 😍😍😍
“My whole life is waking up and grinding”
“8 hours a day”
Boy, that sure is alot of hours a day
That's a third of your day even if you didn't have to sleep that's a good chunk of time
Standard work day hours I suppose
I play that much anyway
Those parents are incredibly sweet.
Such a good documentary
Why is ESL an esports team.
It’s literally in the name Esports League
The new generation parents are so muddafking cool lol so acceptable and supportive to new ideas.
I think all gamers who considers themselves addicted should read up on the illusion of competition and see how far people are willing to go to keep you playing
If I ever becoming the best player in the world, or best clan team ever in history. Video game is not just a game it’s a game become so competitive it’s very entertaining in a way. I’ll give my future children as a motivation to them to push harder and beyond history.
21:20
This is the man in the driving seat of esports?
Yes. Pro player. Never heard of but playing pro nonetheless
in all reality, the people actually in the driving seat of esports are korean and/or chinese, and mostly that's for the better
I love how they are talking about league, then they show double lift playing wow xD... stuck in that challenger Q, couldnt get the footage, so they used B roll.
Feels good to be the only team from MN
mi amigo podría dedicarse a esto, (faramir jugando 300 horas) realmente es muy bueno y disfruta mucho jugar videojuegos. Me gustaría que en mi país hubiesen este tipo de oportunidades. Hay chicos con muchos talentos y múltiples habilidades que se deberían relucir alrededor del mundo. Muchos de estos talentos son apagados por las personas en su alrededor incluido sus propios padres. Es un orgullo la perseverancia y disciplina de estos chicos !!!
DL playin WoW and watching Thorin LMAO
Lol mans was calling out the bots in training mode
Dang I live in Santa Ana , wonder what school that is