Cracks are appearing in Central Texas pools, causing them to drain dry | Here's why

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  • Alkali-silica reaction, also called "concrete cancer," is a hidden defect plaguing pools in Central Texas, making them unusable shortly after they're built.
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  • @darrellmoore1743
    @darrellmoore1743 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +219

    If concrete cancer is a result of incorrect mixing. Why is the concrete contractor not on the hook? ASR is not a disease. It is a production failure.

    • @DanOKC
      @DanOKC 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      Because the Cement Mixing Company provides the mix the Chapter 11 - Sub-Contractor ask for. The Pool Builders don't care because his sub-Contractors just change corporate names and then open back up under a new business name contract out to same builders over and over.

    • @DanOKC
      @DanOKC 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      @@JudsonWallace-ll1rb WHO PLACE THE ORDER AND the MIX? Builder's RESPONSIBILITY is to give and ensure spec's are being meet. If not the builders who suppose to hire qualified sub's labor and ensure they meet his requirements. (The Builder is the General Contractor) According to your logic a Builder's responsibility is ONLY to collect money. Sweet gig

    • @darrellmoore1743
      @darrellmoore1743 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@DanOKC Vinny Di Goombah concrete inc.?

    • @DanOKC
      @DanOKC 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@darrellmoore1743 Sorry. that one when completely over my head. I am say document, document and stop pointing fingers and changing company names every season.

    • @What.The.Fluff.
      @What.The.Fluff. 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@darrellmoore1743 Yo! I know a guy!

  • @georgesmith8774
    @georgesmith8774 หลายเดือนก่อน +537

    The kids used to say, "Daddy we need a pool!"
    "Nope" I answered "You need friends who have a pool."

    • @nomaderic
      @nomaderic หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      Like the saying goes "a friend with a boat is better than owning a boat yourself"

    • @czechmate6916
      @czechmate6916 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      Both great answers 👍👍

    • @terryfonz4603
      @terryfonz4603 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      You just need a concrete construction engineer present to test the concrete before it is installed to insure the concrete mix is mixed correct

    • @Ek0
      @Ek0 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      When I was a kid...what I wanted more than anything was a tree house. One day, I finally got mustered up the courage to ask my parents, and I asked, "mom... dad.... can we get a tree house?" and they said, "No ek0... we have to keep living in the van." -Anthony Jeselnik joke. lulllll

    • @manuelrojas387
      @manuelrojas387 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Best reply I have ever heard 👏

  • @epacig
    @epacig 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +289

    These flex-seal commercials are getting more elaborate

    • @tomcibulskis7649
      @tomcibulskis7649 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Flex seal is cheaper than a lawyer!

    • @Gary65437
      @Gary65437 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      You'd think there is a nice blue rubber they can spray on as a liner like some basement foundations use to keep water out. Sure beats rebuilding a pool.

    • @Danny-fs1hk
      @Danny-fs1hk 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      😂😂😂

    • @mrmrmrcaf7801
      @mrmrmrcaf7801 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Gary65437 Of course it exists, it is a nano-based pool paint and a rubber membrane is formed , it is used all over Europe in swimming pools because there are big temperature changes and that the water does not freeze in the concrete and break it but here they don't want to use it because the price increases and they want as much profit as possible.

    • @nczioox1116
      @nczioox1116 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If only they had flex seal on the titanic

  • @Xx-po1fu
    @Xx-po1fu 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +86

    No pool is worth $115,000. I'd rather drive to the beach, or a local pool.

    • @ryanehlis426
      @ryanehlis426 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      That’s actually on the cheep end.

    • @SusiesRepeat
      @SusiesRepeat 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Or a above ground pool, vinyl and Aluminium.

  • @Damone7653
    @Damone7653 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +91

    Back in 1974 we begged our parents for a pool and they said no. We were able to get a pool liner the neighbors were throwing out and made a pool and called it "the cheap parents pool"... great memories. Missing you Mom and Dad thanks for all the love and guidance.

  • @marcusdub07
    @marcusdub07 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +250

    $115k, that figure alone would have saved me the impending trouble.

    • @republicansthatdidntvotefo1605
      @republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah we can tell..

    • @philipclift7205
      @philipclift7205 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Yeah, kiddie pools are 15 bucks at Walmart! Same, same.

    • @mhxxd4
      @mhxxd4 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We know! Broke mf

    • @Gfysimpletons
      @Gfysimpletons 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 chump

    • @davidgray1515
      @davidgray1515 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Some people have more money than brains, You would think he could find a more attractive mate.

  • @crinklecut3790
    @crinklecut3790 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +73

    How did the Romans build pools so well over 1,500 years ago but we can’t?

    • @mfblowfish4671
      @mfblowfish4671 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      They weren’t using Portland cement Or steel rebar.

    • @bodyzoasispersonaltraining9186
      @bodyzoasispersonaltraining9186 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      ​@@mfblowfish4671they used tons of layers of rocks. And time tested technique of burnt shells.

    • @jenc8953
      @jenc8953 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Because they used materials built to last that’s why everything they made is pretty much still standing till this day. I stayed in a 500 year old house in Florence, Italy 2 yrs ago. There was no concrete cancer there and the craftsmanship was insane.

    • @Al828282
      @Al828282 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      When you carve a pool out of the bedrock, it tends to last longer.

    • @davidgray1515
      @davidgray1515 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Obviously people are way dumber now

  • @me5768
    @me5768 หลายเดือนก่อน +158

    Poor concrete, the wrong mix, to much water in the mix, not enough cement in the mix the list goes on. The bottom line is they did it as cheap as possible to make money and now their customers gotta pay. They’re all just gonna file chapter 11 and walk away from it.

    • @MrWaterbugdesign
      @MrWaterbugdesign 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

      It's not actually possible to build a pool using concrete with "too much water" because the concrete is shot out of a hose onto a vertical surface. Too much water and the concrete will just fall down.
      The issue with these pools is the wrong aggregate being used. Not using non-reactive aggregates or low-alkali cements or adding enough supplementary cementitious (to hardened concrete, such as fly ash, lithium nitrate, etc... It's kind of a mess because the concrete contractors aren't engineers so they don't know what kind of concrete mix to order. The concrete supplier just delivers whatever mix is asked for. And property owners want cheap, cheap, cheap so any pool bid that includes an engineer to spec the concrete mix and test each delivered load gets rejected by customers. And of course Texans hate government so there's little oversight.
      Congrats Texans, you played yourself.

    • @me5768
      @me5768 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@MrWaterbugdesign yes they did

    • @peter-pg5yc
      @peter-pg5yc 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They already have.

    • @1realtruthrightnow742
      @1realtruthrightnow742 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank is exactly what they did

    • @davidhughes5369
      @davidhughes5369 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@MrWaterbugdesign TRUTH!!!! 100%

  • @mashdatrashvideos2831
    @mashdatrashvideos2831 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +97

    I build pools in CA and we are required to do core samples, the cost for a concrete inspector and lab results is $400.00, cheap compared to what can happen

    • @lazarosanchez5314
      @lazarosanchez5314 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      The problem with this is that you only find out the results after the concrete is placed..

    • @mashdatrashvideos2831
      @mashdatrashvideos2831 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lazarosanchez5314 Yes, we have to turn in results prior to plastering the pool, it is part of the pre plaster inspection, sucks for everyone

    • @kevinconrad6156
      @kevinconrad6156 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@lazarosanchez5314 But you know it is not what you ordered and can have it replaced immediately.

    • @Mixer-he2wb
      @Mixer-he2wb 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And final payment isn't withheld until project completion?! Keeps the contractor on the subcontractor, etc.

    • @FaithandNova
      @FaithandNova 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@lazarosanchez5314at the end of the video she said to make sure they are using the right concrete mix. Meaning there has to be a way of knowing beforehand

  • @asymmetry9988
    @asymmetry9988 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    I installed a pool at my last house. Never again. They are a money pit.

  • @southern04man
    @southern04man 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +80

    Bad cement is more common than everyone thinks. There's a cement plant in my area that has horrible cement. They getting sued now.

    • @danwaller5312
      @danwaller5312 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Do you know the difference between CONCRETE AND CEMENT?

    • @lostfool
      @lostfool 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

      ​​@@danwaller5312Cement is the most important ingredient in concrete. It's the binding agent in concrete, bad cement makes bad concrete. If you're going to try to make someone sound dumb don't make dumb comments.

    • @serafinacosta7118
      @serafinacosta7118 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@danwaller5312 he is talking about bad Portland Cement. It is assumed concrete is parts gravel, parts sand , water, and Portland Cement. Rebar reinforced. And poured.

    • @danwaller5312
      @danwaller5312 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@serafinacosta7118 if the Cement doesn’t meet ASTM C94 they can’t and wouldn’t sell it. If the cement is bad it wouldn’t only be showing up in pools!

    • @Jamietheroadrunner
      @Jamietheroadrunner 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Probably bought it cheap from China. In China, they call it tofu-dreg construction because all their newer buildings and skyscrapers are literally falling down around them. It’s fascinating and horrifying the videos you see from China. These people are mostly part of their new middle class and they end up buying homes they can’t move into and they still have to pay off the banks anyway! On top of all that, all their real estate companies are filing for bankruptcy. Whatever our problems here, we are lucky to live in the USA.

  • @tedecker3792
    @tedecker3792 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +55

    I worked in a concrete test lab while I was in college. Each material in the mix had to pass rigorous testing. Any part of the mix can call failure. An engineer can specify each component of the mix, its source, its validated testing, and the ratio of each for the mix. Don’t cheap out.

    • @skutchBlobaum
      @skutchBlobaum 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      All concrete cracks eventually.

    • @tedecker3792
      @tedecker3792 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      @@skutchBlobaum all concrete is not the same.

  • @patpatpat999
    @patpatpat999 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    I dont know about Texas, but in most states when you are trying to sell your house, at least 1/2 the potential buyers will pass on any house with a pool.

    • @user-qr7ee2cp4y
      @user-qr7ee2cp4y 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Wouldn't touch a house with a pool. A bottomless pit in which you throw money.

  • @steveincali1
    @steveincali1 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +53

    Neighbors must have loved the sound system and all the visitors.

    • @Gfysimpletons
      @Gfysimpletons 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Yeah, he’s a nuisance I bet…..

    • @hello-ef4bn
      @hello-ef4bn 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Don’t buy a house 15ft from your neighbors if you don’t want to hear them. If people having fun bothers you then go buy 40 acres of peace and quiet.

    • @kstreet7438
      @kstreet7438 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@hello-ef4bnlol for real. These two comments are sad.

    • @Cocollyt
      @Cocollyt 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@hello-ef4bnyeah yikes I love hearing my neighbors. As long as people are respectful this is just part of living among people.

    • @levak8740
      @levak8740 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ha ha ha ha !

  • @NativeAmericanSwag
    @NativeAmericanSwag 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +30

    115k for a pool? For a hole in the ground to add some water in? They don’t have the same financial concerns many other people have…🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @supersize75k5
      @supersize75k5 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That’s the price of a new fully loaded 1 ton truck or a Denali suv, it’s not that crazy

    • @TannerCity
      @TannerCity 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@supersize75k5no but it’s crazy that people pay that price for them.

  • @viktorakhmedov3442
    @viktorakhmedov3442 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    Your description of what causes ASR is incorrect. It has nothing to do with how it is mixed. It's the type of aggregate used. Most other areas learned this lesson 20 years ago.

  • @jkd77433
    @jkd77433 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +47

    One might wonder how much of this concrete mix was used in our roads and bridges as well as other structures. Denver's new airport was plagued by similar problems with the concrete used in the runways in the 1990s.

    • @anderander5662
      @anderander5662 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      There's an expressway in my town of Tulsa that failed after a few years and is now being completely torn out and redone.

    • @serafinacosta7118
      @serafinacosta7118 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      And then they blame the Chinese and their Tofu Projects.

    • @Molon_Labe1776
      @Molon_Labe1776 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      They replaced my street recently and its like recycled asphalt. It's got huge gaps between the aggregate and it starting to fall apart months after. Water also weeps up from the ground during/after rain.

  • @peter-pg5yc
    @peter-pg5yc 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +47

    And Roman concrete is self healing and still standing..

  • @sjbock
    @sjbock 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

    Came here for the comments about a $115,000 pool and the wife's appearance and I'm not disappointed.

  • @moochythecat3435
    @moochythecat3435 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    All of the Milwaukee County public swimming pools built in the 1960's are still in mint condition and have never leaked...

  • @1realtruthrightnow742
    @1realtruthrightnow742 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    I was watching a court case a few weeks ago. A former pool installer admitted in court that his company installed thousands of pools that have a defect in the concrete that will cause them to fall apart. He dissolved the company and reopened under a new name, still doing the same work. All of those home owners are now left in the lurch with no recourse. Also I had NO IDEA how expensive and lucrative the pool business is.

  • @dandan7973
    @dandan7973 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    I just can’t feel bad for them. You can spend $115k on a POOL?!? 🖕🏻🖕🏻

    • @richardsmith5840
      @richardsmith5840 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      $100k-$125k is the pricing for an in-ground pool now around central Texas.

  • @paulcontreras3264
    @paulcontreras3264 หลายเดือนก่อน +160

    I have been in the construction business for over 27 years and 20 years with my own company. I always tell people to please please get structural construction components engineered then get bids based on the engineers report and specifications. In almost every case the homeowners decline because of the cost. How much does it cost to demolish and rebuild your pool or foundation? 100,000.00+ and you won't spend $1,000 to have it engineered . Amazing stupidity.

    • @alexsystems2001
      @alexsystems2001 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

      So bad concrete mixture can be fixed by having a structural engineer?

    • @tomcibulskis7649
      @tomcibulskis7649 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

      The specifications for the concrete mix design were probably not correct. I would have MANDATED stainless steel rebar #4 @ 12 inches on center both ways one layer. Or heavy stainless steel wire mesh of the same steel area. Pools are legally "non structural". Consumers need to hire a third party Structural Engineer for a concrete swimming pool. Ask for a full set of calculations also. If you cannot afford to pay an engineer 1000$ or 2000$, then you will not be able to afford to pay your swimming pool utility bill.

    • @republicansthatdidntvotefo1605
      @republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

      The pool Contractor collects the 110,000 dollars💰... And then makes the pool Subcontractors cannibalize each other, then picks the low ball Subcontractor to do the work..😂 And then start a podcast How he is the victim..😅 😊

    • @scaramouche8244
      @scaramouche8244 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 I am sure the illegals who did the work are not worried at all.

    • @paulcontreras3264
      @paulcontreras3264 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 100% Correct.

  • @Jason-pq5mq
    @Jason-pq5mq หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    How many buildings, structures, and support columns were built using these contractors? I hardly doubt it’s only pools. Does to story go further or stop at pools?

    • @imfloridano5448
      @imfloridano5448 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I was thinking the very same thing. I'm wondering if any government structures have been built using these contractors as well.

    • @akshonclip
      @akshonclip หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Shotcrete is completely different. This is the result of the contractor adding too much sand to the mix. It’s easier to trowel but not as robust.

    • @tomcibulskis7649
      @tomcibulskis7649 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      It probably only affects pools. Like roofers, pool contractors are cowboys. Y'all don't need no engineering. My swimming pool excavation contractor would not accept my drawing. I couldn't send it to him registered mail because he slept in his truck. He did the excavation correctly but it took 3 months.

    • @serafinacosta7118
      @serafinacosta7118 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@tomcibulskis7649 you should’ve posted as a topic reply. At the very least a few more people would giggle at your anecdotes.

    • @JCSmith-uo5cu
      @JCSmith-uo5cu 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I was thinking the same thing. Those lips and hair were nuts. Why I will never let my wife get lip injections.

  • @jpolish420
    @jpolish420 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Just what you would expect out of Texas.

  • @theotheleo6830
    @theotheleo6830 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    A pool is great, as long as it's someone else's. Pools must be maintained forever, even when they're no longer used.

  • @thomascunningham111
    @thomascunningham111 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    When ASR ("concrete cancer") occurs in cement, a soluble gel of sodium silicates forms on the aggregates. This gel can swell and expand as it absorbs water, creating pressure that FRACTURES concrete from within. The result is often significant cracking that weakens the concrete and increases risks of structural failure.

  • @eugenefirebird8938
    @eugenefirebird8938 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +51

    I bet his neighbors loved his sound system. ha ha ha

    • @JeffsGypsy
      @JeffsGypsy 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Was thinking that, also.

    • @radicalronie
      @radicalronie 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      I was thinking the same thing with those houses being so close together! Lol Bet the neighbors are happy now. 😅

    • @backtoasimplelife
      @backtoasimplelife 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Yeah, some of them are probably SO disappointed that this happened.

    • @motorhead281
      @motorhead281 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This guys got a hot wife and lots of $... he doesn't have hood rat neighbors like you all lol😂

  • @greydovegardens7688
    @greydovegardens7688 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +43

    Bet your neighbors are thinking it's karma for those outdoor speakers you installed and most likely blasting.
    " We have people over ALL the time."

    • @davidhughes5369
      @davidhughes5369 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      EXACTLY!!😂😂😂

    • @geemama420
      @geemama420 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yes I literally just wrote this 😂

    • @lobstermash
      @lobstermash 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Yes. Noise like that is a form of aggression.

    • @MrC9Oh3
      @MrC9Oh3 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah and that fake lipped wife

  • @RodManFB
    @RodManFB 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    That backyard was full of people when the pool was new. Now… not so much!

  • @MarkTurner-vs7uc
    @MarkTurner-vs7uc 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    Never buy a house with a pool. Listen to me, please save yourself endless troubles and giant piles of money. Forget the pool.

    • @user-gl9iz1bp1r
      @user-gl9iz1bp1r 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Had a fiberglass pool. Best day was when we removed it. Just not worth the time and risk (had little grandkids). Lots of work to remove, but enjoy the extra space.

    • @NicholasWHaley7
      @NicholasWHaley7 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Had a pool growing up. It was great and totally worth it.

  • @FlickLives
    @FlickLives หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    It’s a real shame this happened in a state with some of the worst consumer protection laws and regulations on the books. All these people are gonna get hosed.

    • @republicansthatdidntvotefo1605
      @republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      👍🇺🇸 The great state of texas, And there beliefs in less regulations...😊

    • @alienorificeinvestigation
      @alienorificeinvestigation 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Wasn't the pool builders fault, the concrete mix was faulty.

    • @ButterNutter37
      @ButterNutter37 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 Corporations own Texas now.

    • @peter-pg5yc
      @peter-pg5yc 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Limited liability companies. also bankruptcy, close down business its all over folks they be gone.

    • @neilopfer5687
      @neilopfer5687 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The laws/regulations really don't matter when you have wide-spread failures as I've seen comparable issues (not concrete related) in California, Illinois, and Michigan. These three states have buco regulations. Plus, from what's presented here, it was the quality of ready-mix concrete coming from the concrete plant that was problematic which is obviously not made by the concrete contractor.

  • @radolfkalis4041
    @radolfkalis4041 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    None of these people are going to see a penny for their pools. Most concrete subcontractor are small operations than will ninja vanish at the first sign of trouble, a d the costs of these pools will absolutely bankrupt almost every pool company out there. I feel for these poor folks.

    • @_PatrickO
      @_PatrickO 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      The owners need to go to jail. A pool company selling 100k pools who claims to have no clue how the concrete needs to be mixed is absolutely ridiculous. Of course the owner in the video is apologetic, he doesn't want to go to jail for his massive fraud.

    • @michaelstrang2563
      @michaelstrang2563 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Pool companies don’t mix or pour concrete, there is a company that pours it and a company that manufactures the concrete itself. It the the manufacturer of the concrete that is at fault.

    • @radolfkalis4041
      @radolfkalis4041 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@michaelstrang2563 That is what I said. :)

    • @_PatrickO
      @_PatrickO 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@michaelstrang2563 Sorry, but you cannot be in business if you aren't validating the mix in any way. You also should be buying insurance for this if it is a business risk. The consumer is the only innocent person here. These fly by night pool companies ignore all quality and just quickly install pools that look nice with no care about how long they will last.
      They don't get to say they don't understand concrete as that is the primary thing a pool installer needs to know.

    • @collinandry1188
      @collinandry1188 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@michaelstrang2563EXACTLY

  • @lukegaming86
    @lukegaming86 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    I like how they are describing their pool’s diagnosis like it was a human being who got cancer 😂

  • @lrs7777
    @lrs7777 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Warning: pool contractors DON’T offer to fix another contractor’s problems.

    • @skutchBlobaum
      @skutchBlobaum 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yet they'll be more than happy to suggest their buddies(or their brother in law's) concrete company to you.

  • @MM-qs2ny
    @MM-qs2ny 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

    Back in the 80s. Just swam the river and built a rope swing. Way better than a boring pool.

    • @FINfinFINfinFINfin
      @FINfinFINfinFINfin 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      These guys swim the river and spray gunite.

    • @alexlopez5800
      @alexlopez5800 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Can't do that now. Over crowded rivers, polluted rivers, and everyone's hostility towards each other

    • @maryswanson9982
      @maryswanson9982 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We found an old rock quarry, or went to the public pool.

    • @mdb45424
      @mdb45424 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Public pools have the fun without the maintenance. Just got to share

    • @nonawolf7495
      @nonawolf7495 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Wait till bad concrete starts showing up in bridges, runways, foundations, et...

  • @patrickradcliffe3837
    @patrickradcliffe3837 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    First sign of ASR I would have drained the pool and told builder that they are paying for a liner installation.

    • @UncleKennysPlace
      @UncleKennysPlace 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      In the midwest, due to freeze/thaw heave, nearly every pool has a vinyl liner; I'm putting in a new one now. Not cheap, but works out to a couple of hundred or so per year.

    • @anderander5662
      @anderander5662 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      It's not just the pool itself it's the steps and the walls surrounding it

    • @patrickradcliffe3837
      @patrickradcliffe3837 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@anderander5662 I agree the surrounding concrete will need to be replaced with the correct type.

  • @HipsterBanana
    @HipsterBanana หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Someone fricked and went for cheap aggregate that reacts in the concrete. No matter how many times they fixed it if the aggregate is messed up, it'll be a money pit.

  • @TheMowsefan
    @TheMowsefan 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Can they add a vinyl liner or fiberglass lining to the pool instead of demolition and rebuilding it?

    • @NDcompetitiveshooter
      @NDcompetitiveshooter 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Only if there will be long term structural integrity of the concrete basin holding the water. To do it right, a structural engineer would have to sign off on the modification being a sound remediation to the problem.

  • @dogface-hd8px
    @dogface-hd8px หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    So glad I bought an amazing fiberglass pool!! I am out time to jump in my pool!

    • @os2958
      @os2958 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      glad to know there are alternatives

    • @bigdougscommentary5719
      @bigdougscommentary5719 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Same here. 19 years old and swimming to this day.

  • @gallardo360
    @gallardo360 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    fiberglass is the way to go , hands down the best and cheapest to maintain 💯 %

  • @bigdougscommentary5719
    @bigdougscommentary5719 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    The builders make it sound like the cancer was a surprise. It was shoddy workmanship.

    • @NDcompetitiveshooter
      @NDcompetitiveshooter 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      shoddy materials from the plant--not workmanship

  • @scottsnodgrass4361
    @scottsnodgrass4361 หลายเดือนก่อน +94

    That’s some bad botox or plastic surgery

    • @danielcrouch6589
      @danielcrouch6589 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

      Cheaped out on that, too.

    • @serafinacosta7118
      @serafinacosta7118 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I noticed that. Trophy wife with Botox.

    • @rbfarrell1
      @rbfarrell1 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Just imagine the before.

    • @serafinacosta7118
      @serafinacosta7118 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Trophy wife gone bad.

    • @billycox475
      @billycox475 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

      Lip injections, always the lip injections 🤦‍♂️

  • @williamlevesque6348
    @williamlevesque6348 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Its not a disease, its quality control issue on the materials used

  • @chrismathes3647
    @chrismathes3647 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +85

    100K for a pool? You ain't got real problems 💯

    • @user-bg2gh6ty2b
      @user-bg2gh6ty2b 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Right?? That Walmart pool would be like 1000 for the nice one with a pallet deck 😂

    • @republicansthatdidntvotefo1605
      @republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Don't.
      Be a hater, You can't put a walmart pool in that neighborhood,

    • @republicansthatdidntvotefo1605
      @republicansthatdidntvotefo1605 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      The pool Contractor collects the 110,000 dollars💰😃... And then makes the pool Subcontractors cannibalize each other, then picks the low ball Subcontractor to do the work..😂 And then start a podcast How he is the victim, American greed at its best 😅 😊

    • @2ndgradeuscitizen
      @2ndgradeuscitizen 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Spending 100K for a pool is a big problem, but driving new luxury SUVs, visiting Disney parks and eating in restaurants is a necessity.

    • @user-bg2gh6ty2b
      @user-bg2gh6ty2b 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@2ndgradeuscitizen literally none of that is necessary.....

  • @pwu8194
    @pwu8194 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    There was a wall (shown on the video) that wasn't supported by pressure from dirt. That was disaster waiting to happen.
    The pool needed to be supported by walls of dirt or has to have steel frame strong enough to bring it together, like those done on the top of sky scrappers. His $125K wasn't going to be enough for something like that.
    It was bad from the start. They wanted to have a pool, but don't know anything about engineering. Pool company just wanted to make money. Pool company can always file bankruptcy when it gets sued.

    • @dr.emilschaffhausen4683
      @dr.emilschaffhausen4683 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Hydrostatic pressure is a bit like the terminator for walls... It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. "It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear! And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until your wall is dead!"

  • @glike2
    @glike2 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    A fiberglass pool lasts many many decades, costs less, looks beautiful, and allows pool shoppers can avoid all this.

    • @vivalaleta
      @vivalaleta 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      But it's PLASTIC. 😱

  • @Borkery
    @Borkery 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    never go with the lowest concrete bidder

  • @kimward5746
    @kimward5746 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    this is a great little expose. like a mini-documentary. even with some interesting closure at the end with the guy podcasting. nice job, real journalists!

  • @genehasenbuhler2594
    @genehasenbuhler2594 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    I live in the far west end of Texas- we have had this since the early 80s here! I've had to demo almost every pool made back then to now! The alkyl comes from the water they add to the mix! It's basically internal at that point and there is no way other than to use filter treated water to both make and cure the concrete!

    • @dunweyweydum
      @dunweyweydum 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Sounds like you could make a useful video on the alkaline water issue....???

    • @deemelody2396
      @deemelody2396 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I can see adjusting the water pH with some chemicals, but why would they have to filter the water?
      I wonder if this "concrete cancer" cracking is happening in other states with alkaline water?

    • @genehasenbuhler2594
      @genehasenbuhler2594 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@deemelody2396 it's happening all over the country! Especially in the southwest!

    • @genehasenbuhler2594
      @genehasenbuhler2594 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@deemelody2396 here we use filter systems to remove the alkalinity for swamp coolers! That and diodes to keep the corrosion down!

  • @scottprather5645
    @scottprather5645 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    There was another part of the country that had aggregate which contained pyrite it reacted and turned into sulfuric acid and the foundations were literally crumbling turned into a nightmare for a lot of homeowners.

  • @craigg4925
    @craigg4925 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    You know, if they mix, quicklime, crushed shell and salt water, when making the concrete it will heal itself. that is why the stuff the Romans made are still standing.

  • @diegop2311
    @diegop2311 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    The reason chemistry is important 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @skin2117
    @skin2117 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Concrete was not mixed properly. With that said why go after the pool companies? You should be going after the concert plant. You'd almost think they would have a performance insurance policy or a performance bond to cover their product.

    • @lazarosanchez5314
      @lazarosanchez5314 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Great idea

    • @kevinconrad6156
      @kevinconrad6156 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      It's Texas, consumer has no protection, neither do the small contractors. What you get when you think government regulation is a waste of resources instead of a helping hand for the small guy.

  • @trancextend
    @trancextend 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    No body is suing the concrete provider? They made the mix!!

  • @clifflong7944
    @clifflong7944 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    NOT the contractors fault. This falls completely on the batch plant that mixed the mud. They were given the specs when it was ordered. Contractor measures slump, batch plant measures concrete quality and composition. Every order can be different.

    • @lutomson3496
      @lutomson3496 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      if proper engineering wasnt done to specify the proper mix of concrete to match the soil and water composition, it is on the contractor. Only if the concrete plant was given the proper mix breakdown, and core sampled, and the plant failed to do so, is the concrete plant...

    • @clifflong7944
      @clifflong7944 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      @@lutomson3496 I worked at a batch plant...we did our own QC with concrete samples constantly so we had proof the concrete was mixed properly. Things were always being weighed ,measured and lab verified. This is just a lack of fly ash in the mix which is weird because its a super low cost component. It's a waste byproduct from power plants and readily available.

    • @matthewnosal6893
      @matthewnosal6893 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      This is a concrete foundation problem. Think a slab for a house. The elaborate walls steps require an engineer and a concrete contractor that communicates and are on the same page. Most in ground pools don’t have this problem. Most in ground pool’s without all the fancy superstructures don’t have this problem using gunite and rebar

    • @peterkn2
      @peterkn2 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I think it's the contractor's fault because they chose the concrete mixing company to subcontract with.

  • @chriscordray8572
    @chriscordray8572 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    We have know about concrete cancer for 50 plus years . Fly ash hardened the concrete. The concrete companies are to blame to knowing a pool takes different concrete than a standard foundation or sidewalk. Always use a epoxy coat over the entire pool surfaces. Deck and pool. It's a great investment on your addition to you yard. Epoxy comes in many colors. And it's permanently sealing the concrete surface. A new concrete actually heats itself below freezing Temps to keep the ice and snow off for hours after temperatures drop. No electricity or warming pipes under the concrete.

  • @NappyRB
    @NappyRB 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I mean a pool liner would help

  • @_PatrickO
    @_PatrickO 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Pool builders: "we had no idea what we were doing, so please feel sorry for us".

  • @JoseGonzalez-pv6sy
    @JoseGonzalez-pv6sy 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Hire a pool company that does shock creek this ensures the concrete is well mix because it gets mix twice

  • @lazarosanchez5314
    @lazarosanchez5314 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Years ago knauf imported chinese drywall tainted with a high level of sulfides. Seems like a similar problem

    • @tdw5933
      @tdw5933 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      In Florida, it was a very smelly situation

  • @galexander8723
    @galexander8723 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’ve recently retired from 40+ years in the concrete industry and I tell you there’s no such thing as cancer in concrete. It all comes down to the concrete mix.

  • @charrepz
    @charrepz 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Dear Pool People, I had wrapped my pool with fiberglass coating 20 years ago with a 25 year warranty. My pool is perfect still and it’s taken so much less chemicals to adjust ph and clean then standard concrete gunite and plaster pools. Also get your self a sand filter and wrap that pool with fiberglass and fire your pool man and chemical company!

    • @2ndgradeuscitizen
      @2ndgradeuscitizen 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I second that!

    • @MADmidway
      @MADmidway 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I'm with you except for the Sand filter.
      DE is the best filter over the long run. Simply because it can be rebuilt and you can vacuum directly into the filter.
      It uses less water to backwash also.

    • @ANT18621
      @ANT18621 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Coat with fiberglass? How? Is that a DIY project or have to hire a fiberglass guy? Please advise, thanks.

    • @charrepz
      @charrepz 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ANT18621 professionals do fiberglass coatings on standard gunite pools. Does America still use a yellow pages? 😆

    • @charrepz
      @charrepz 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@MADmidway The sand filter makes cleaning a breeze. Cleaning is why we hire a pool Man. Oh! Let me clarify, if you ever worked a pole on 6 pools in one day. Brushing algae and scrubbing mold? If you have, you know this is a Man’s job or Your girl best have some serious shoulders and stamina to make this her career. Just clarifying!

  • @dustinscheller7795
    @dustinscheller7795 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Fly ash is literally the cheapest thing ever but they may not have it in tx everywhere since it's used mainly in mines to fire proof the walls of the mine

  • @SirHumano97
    @SirHumano97 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like the guy showing the pool builder awards... The awards are given based on how the pool looks when you finish it, not based on the quality of the product after 5 or 10 years which is what matters the most.

  • @shane7133
    @shane7133 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I worked for Hines in Austin for a few years. Great company and a great owner. All I can say is that having a pool is incredibly expensive, even if it is done right. After working on them for a few years, my recommendation to anyone who purchases a home with a pool would be to fill it in with dirt.

  • @DanOKC
    @DanOKC 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The receipt of the formula used by Concrete Mixer Suppliers should be REQUIRED BY LAW for any concrete work period. The Required Building Material Specifications given to the Cement Company and it's Certification of Concrete Content matching those specification, should be considered every bit as important as your Property Titles and Insurance Policies. Cement integrity impacts everything aspect about your structure, foundation, floors, driveways, pools any and everything on the property. ( Why do states NOT REQUIRED THIS? )

  • @LoriL010
    @LoriL010 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    United States imports Cement primarily from: Turkey ($636M), Canada ($512M), Mexico ($254M), Vietnam ($203M), and Greece ($152M). The fastest growing import markets in Cement for United States between 2021 and 2022 were Turkey ($319M), Vietnam ($99M), and Mexico ($83.2M). China produces the most cement globally by a large margin, at an estimated 2.1 billion metric tons in 2022. China's cement production share equates to over half of the world's cement.

    • @serafinacosta7118
      @serafinacosta7118 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Hopefully Brazil does not import cement. Our Steel Mills are still running. Top cement brand seller for any serious builder is Votorantin.
      The late Antonio Ermírio de Moraes , our Robber Baron , was dead serious about his product. He also ran aluminum smelter plants.
      So in hindsight , I will stick with older building structures when taking listings to showcase.

  • @mvsorola
    @mvsorola 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great story! TY for looking into this.. pools in South Texas are so prevalent.

  • @kristibuckley
    @kristibuckley 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I would never buy a house with an in ground pool or put one in myself. Anyone I know with one has a never ending list of issues. We bought a 30ft above ground and are just fine with it. Over 20 years using it and only had to get a new set of steps a couple years back.

  • @MrTwenty20video
    @MrTwenty20video 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That's terrible for both parties. Mixing concrete properly for pool construction is an art.

  • @collinandry1188
    @collinandry1188 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    If the builder is using any NPT pool finish components,
    This entire material defect is completely avoided , and only uses the highest quality cement, aggregate, etc.

  • @rambone5282
    @rambone5282 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Cheap labor and more profit. Let's face it I'm Hispanic but it doesn't mean I'm the best labor out there you have to pay for skill and knowledge.

  • @user-dv7hq2rh4g
    @user-dv7hq2rh4g 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The phenomenon is not the cause, it's the result.
    The result of companies cutting corners and trying save costs either when using or selling concrete.
    I would guess it's more likely the ones who are making the concrete than those who use it.

  • @stephenbrand5661
    @stephenbrand5661 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is just part of the charm of living somewhere without so much big government oversight, and overreach!
    I heard Dave Rubin telling Joe Rogan all about it!that

  • @stevec8861
    @stevec8861 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Given the timing of complaints, have to wonder if Type IL cement component of concrete, aka PLC, is involved? To reduce carbon emissions in cement manufacturing, Type IL cement replaces 10-15% of Traditional Type I/II cement with raw ground limestone. I believe Type IL was a small part of market back in 2017 when these complaints started, but now outsells Type I/II cement.

  • @mrmrmrcaf7801
    @mrmrmrcaf7801 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    We have one of those big 14000 gallons Intex above ground pools for the kids and never had any problems...we install it when summer comes,you get them from walmart for $1800-$2000 and it is much bigger and much cheaper to maintain than any concrete pool from this video 🤣

  • @salinarodriguez309
    @salinarodriguez309 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    We just got our pool built last year and this is scaring me now. And it was with premier pool and spa!

    • @blessedmamags7796
      @blessedmamags7796 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Keep close watch. Hoping yours is safe.

  • @sw6118
    @sw6118 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    So how do you get the test pour records/know the right mix?

  • @craiglee3253
    @craiglee3253 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The ancient romans knew of this effect in concrete construction. It isn't new and is totally avoidable. The pool builder who has lost confidence of his clients deserves to go under.

  • @peter-pg5yc
    @peter-pg5yc 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Strange a pool company doesnt keep tight control of the products used. research products use proper contractors that know their trade. So basically the company is just plain ignorant. Hit and run, uses a subcontractor with zero control ... what could go wrong?

  • @babyseals4872
    @babyseals4872 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Meanwhile the Pantheon continues standing. As a society we have completely forgotten how to do everything

  • @Peeta-wn4hh
    @Peeta-wn4hh 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It wasn’t mentioned in the video, but it would be interesting to know what grade (or standard) of cement was used.

  • @mattbosley3531
    @mattbosley3531 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Spending $120,000 on a pool seems kind of ridiculous. These people have too much money and not enough sense.

  • @Reyvion
    @Reyvion 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As devestating as this is for them (financially), i'm so glad concrete cancer isn't actually like a sort of illness someone can get from the cracks of a pool.

  • @Thepriest39
    @Thepriest39 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I would be devastated at loosing all of that money.

  • @alphalight1469
    @alphalight1469 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That would look so bad. Poor dude. That home value took a massive shot.

  • @YESITSWILL
    @YESITSWILL 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    So I guess it´s true, A pool actually is a hole in the ground that you pour money into.

  • @andrewfisher8749
    @andrewfisher8749 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    As a pool owner/builder here in Commiefornia I feel for all involved. I’ve had zero structural problems on my pool/spa built in 2003. I subcontracted it myself and completed it in six weeks. I lucked out before the market went crazy. $27,000.

  • @dr.emilschaffhausen4683
    @dr.emilschaffhausen4683 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Poor concrete work happens in this business. Shady pool companies are a dime a dozen. They're everywhere.

  • @orion2250
    @orion2250 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Sue the concrete contractor

  • @CommentsAllowed
    @CommentsAllowed 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Having a pool can be one of the most stressful things in your life. Just go to the YMCA.

    • @serafinacosta7118
      @serafinacosta7118 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And you can barbecue by the poolside. On the YMCA. Brilliant.

    • @CommentsAllowed
      @CommentsAllowed 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@serafinacosta7118 That's a great idea! Bring the bbq to the YMCA. Can make a whole class out of it. 😀

  • @nancienordwick4169
    @nancienordwick4169 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In Seattle, the King County metro light rail addition is delayex and had to be redone due to concrete problems. I wonder if it was a supply issue for concrete ingredients. More of a nation wide issue. ?

  • @rnvrnv354
    @rnvrnv354 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    What about the the reinforcement and foundation? Those cracks are huge and were created by immense water pressure!
    The

  • @lutomson3496
    @lutomson3496 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    used cheap concrete...any competent engineer would know about ash and the consequences of not using it in concrete, in the projects especially with water and soil testing that identifies the chemical composition. guess there either wasnt engineering done, or if it was the contractors cheapened out

  • @joshuaupham5993
    @joshuaupham5993 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    115,000? 😂 I'm sorry, you do you.

  • @centex7409
    @centex7409 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I worked in this industry at the primary supplier of pool equipment for the Central Texas area in 2021. I met and talked with most of the big builders and saw many of the realities of the industry in the area..
    Here's the BIGGEST reality that lead to this: People flooding in from California freaking out about how cheap life was (yeah WAS) around here decided they all needed pools. Builders were running after tripping over themselves unable to keep up with the utterly insane demand. So of course a bunch of fly by night scamners showed up at every level. ESPECIALLY in the concrete business.. Because on top of it at, there was an utterly insane construction boom going on. The wait times for concrete were insane back then. So all these guys from far away with absolutely NO idea about the specific conditions here (like our utterly alkaline water) just took orders and ran. The builders didn't have time to check up on anything..
    I wouldn't be surprised to find out over 50% off all pools and homes built in Central Texas since 2015 are utter trash.

  • @donnak743
    @donnak743 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m so glad I’ve never had a desire to have a pool. ❤

  • @russg007
    @russg007 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've heard that a lot of houses in Texas have cracking foundations.

  • @shakey2634
    @shakey2634 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Time to have it all removed, to lower your stress and let the lawsuit wind it’s way through the legal,system.