Firewyrms Explained Game of Thrones/ASOIAF/House of the Dragon Lore
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Didnt mention how Balerion was horribly scarred
Like bruhhhhhhh I’ve been searching for that for so long yes Ik she died of fire worms but what about balerion😂
@@SerBarristanSelmy1 Nobody knows. Which is why it's so horrifying, something Lurks in Valyria which went head to head against Balerion in his Prime and wounded him.
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Damn :o
@@someguyontheinternet2684 wouldn’t say his prime
@@someguyontheinternet2684 I'm pretty sure fire worms grow to be bigger then dragons, so could've been a "momma" fireworm
Imagine being Aerea, flying for days in absolute agony to reach someone that thought they could help, just to die in that horrible way.
Shame the book is more about the human drama and not the world lore cause that was the best part of fire and blood
And the worst and most terrifying thing, that they were in old Valyria not one day, so just imagine what poor girl was doing there. Probably Balerion cared about her somehow and protected her, that's why he get a scarms, and when she was infected he just bring her back to Kings Landing
@@leman7648 Think King Kong on that island trying to protect the woman from the giant bugs and other monstrosities, but then the largest of the dinosaurs (Firewyrm) shows up.
And her mother had been looking for her the entire time and didn't get back to KL until after her death😢
At this point it's where to die rather survival
Don’t forget that whatever was there beat up one of the largest dragons in history and made him run away
Balerion wasnt biggest dragon in history
@@Neksy_ which is why I said “one of the largest” and not “the largest”…🤨
Was he beaten and forced to retreat or was he just scratched and then forced to leave to save Aerya?
What makes you say that@@Neksy_
@@ericlayton8888 same difference. Either something beat the crap out of it and it made a tactical retreat or something managed to wound/scare a DRAGON enough that it feared for its safety and left.
Forgot to mention the maester who said the wyrms had human faces when they burst from her. Made me shudder.
Mother of wyrms
Gross
They didn't combine wyverns and fire wyrms, they combined humans too.
@@carlost856makes sense since they always brag about their ‘dragon blood’
It never said human faces, he simply stated the Firewyrms had faces, many people get that line confused with actual human faces
The last dragon laid eggs from which 1 fyrewyrm hatched, so that basically confirms half the theory :)
really?
@@rebelsoldier2352 it tore the arm or check off a valyron babe.....
Yeah it took a bite out of the arm of a Targaryen baby so the father had the wyrm chopped into pieces after that.
@@jadeayla7548 on the wiki it said that the eggs were hard as stone but that’s really cool.
@@rebelsoldier2352 they were! And they were rounder too, but 1 of the 5 did hatch :)
Fire and blood is such an amazing book
Clash of kings >>>>
@@kamislookout327 this is from fire and blood.
@@Noone91875 never mind she is the girl with the terrible fever i remember now
It’s okay. Too much redundant conflicting information.
@@SnailHatan No there isn't
The one time “KILL IT WITH FIRE!” won’t work. 😂
Or I guess, from the wyrm's perspective, it did
That would be interesting to see in a animated series about essos
I kind of want to see a story about a bunch of Iron Born getting shipwrecked on Valyria and having to survive, could be a decent medieval horror story!
@@360entertainment2 HBO should make a what if series about ASOIAF just like marvel did
@@vishalmishra579or a bunch of short stories in the universe
If they ever make a show featuring old valyria I would 100% watch! Can you imagine what chain of events let up to the doom? Maybe the gods got tired of them playing GOD, maybe it was an experiment gone horribly wrong, or maybe it was just the volcanos time to explode and they got unlucky. But one thing we do know is that some “things” survived the doom and they sure as hell aren’t friendly
Oh shit, this is good.
I do think he mentioned the Faceless-Men caused the downfall. They were founded by a rather twisted Valyrian that relieved people from their suffering by killing them. He - or his followers decided his own people needed euthanasia and they sabotaged a blood-magic rite.
Probably the Faceless men along with the maesters were also involved in the Summerhall-disaster, with Egg even summoning cousins from Essos. - Who says that the cousins from Essos all were cousins. The Black Pearl of Bravos still exists, so her bloodline didn't join, nor did Brown Ben Plumm's grandparents. Neither of them wanted dragons around again, especially, if they knew it needed a human sacrifice they didn't wish to be turned into. This sounds like the job for a faceless man.
If they experimented using magic it's likely an experiment gone wrong, magic also tends to be very capricious in GoT so if they were making new life it may have come at the cost of other lives.
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Am I the only one who desperately needs more on Aerea and Balerions story here?? It drives me nuts. I want all of it from the moment she took the Black. Where did they go? What did we see? Did Balerion save Aerea? I NEED A WHOLE BOOK......PLEASE. Till my dead bed, I'll wonder what HAPPENED?
You will never find out
I wouldn't be surprised if GRRM wrote that before finishing TWOW. Anything to avoid finishing the main book series.
@@ILoveMyMalinois Yeah man. He told D&D his idea of an ending and what they did?
They shamelessly graped the saga of ASOIAF, they condensed the story worth of 4 seasons to 13 episodes with disastrous writing and from this the saga will never recover.
And now he doesn't know what to do.
@@janmajer4662 tbh that should serve as the impetus to finish his actual story. He could learn from what D&D did wrong and adapt the story if needed. He's got loads of time and the treasure trove of story ideas in the form of Reddit theory posts, let's be honest. He should show us what his real vision for the series is and end it on his terms
We only know as much as everyone in-universe. Every bit of information given to us is from the narration of characters in the ASOIAF universe.
Fire Wyrms bear a distinct similarity to Glaurung from Middle Earth. He was the first dragon and father of all dragons in Middle Earth. Had no wings and had human intelligence. His fire was so powerful that it made an entire vegetation around Angband (Where the main anatagonist Morgoth Dwelt) into a wasteland called Angfauglith.
Then comes ancalagon the black
I really want to know exactly how the blood magic process works from fire wyrm x wyvern to a dragon. But I dont think George is going to elaborate on old valyria and its magic, it's ancient because there needs to be something in a stories past, if he explores it too much people will want to look even further back
He also said thats why he is keeping alot a mystery. He wanted to leave it to our inagination.
George will definitely not elaborate on it, in his words other fantasy authors come up with some kind of system to explain magic in their stories, George prefers to leave it loose and unexplained so it gives him more freedom to work with while keeping its mystique.
Balerion also have cut of atleast 10feet after return.
Valyria and the Lands of Always Winter are honestly the coolest places in ASOIAF
Don't forget about the shadow lands of Asshai
@@AmitKumar-zn1ghand about Sothoryos and Ulthos (even if no one know what is going on there)
@@AmitKumar-zn1ghand also there is a cool place called Mossovia
We were told by George that, we will see further north than any part of the story thus far in TWOW, but one can't help but wonder if that means that we will see The Lands of Always Winter and the White Waste, and if we will see the grey waste, if instead of going west, *alll* the way through Essos, Dany goes northeast, through the grey waste to hit the White Waste, which would make sense since ASOIAF is of course on a globe. However, she seems destined to burn Volantis so maybe she does go west after all.
The most interesting place to me is Stygai where even shadowbinders from Asshai dont dare to enter, it is said there are demons and 'evil' dragons over there
The doom was probably caused by giant firewyrms
Most likely vulcanic explosion. But if we go with magic, its possible there was some wizard fuckery going on when fire wizard tried to stop someone from using dragon scale sickness (forgot offical name), and in the battle the vulcanoes and firewyrms were summoned what led to chain reaction and destroyed everything.
The faceless men caused the doom
Nah! Doom is caused by the shrouded God : aka hotpie.
@@michasalamon8315dude those wyrms de stabilized valyria so mutch it exploded
How? The Valyrians held back the volcanoes through magic.
Valyrians are also a magically engineered race, that's where they got the idea.
Caraxes is probably decended from a fyre wrym in some way.
All dragons are
All dragons are (or aren't, depending on the lore). It's been said by Martin that Caraxes looks the way he does because of a mutation.
All are, so technically Balerion is injured by his own relatives in there
"The dragon has 3 heads" - a firewyrm, a wyfern & a human.
Where is this quote from
@@Dan-kg9no "The dragon has 3 heads" is what Daenerys' brother Rhaegar says to Dany in her visions in the House of the Undying (in book 2).
It seems that it means three dragonriders, but there are theories that it also can mean something else, connected to the origin of the dragons.
The things that GRRM has going on in his mind!?
Oh to have the writings of Unnatural History from Septon Barth!
Don't let King Baelor see that 😂.
That would explain why Valyrian blood is the key to controlling dragons.
It's not Valyrian blood that controls dragons. It's the Targaryen blood. Not all Valyrians are dragonlords
@@terken8454 And not all dragonlords were Targaryen.
@@jf_kein_k8590 All dragonlords have Targaryen blood. If their father isn't Targaryen but their mother is, they're technically not in the Targaryen house but they have got the dragon blood anyways
@@terken8454they were many families of dragon lord
@@jamesbalbutin6796 no
So essentially, Area received the xenomorph treatment. Just extra crispy.
If fyrewyrms could live outside of volcanoes, imagine how fucked Westeros would be if Aérea was never put on ice and those worms went out of her body
they did go out of her body
@@InitialPCyeah but they died in the ice water
They’d be fine after a while. 90% people die due to close living quarters. Rest survive.
Sounds like the start of a horror movie... ^^
They wont survive in the north
The fyreworms and the parasites inside her are more than likely not the same. In Sothoryos there are tales of worms that live under the skin of horses and men. We don't know exactly what those parasites were or where Balerion had really taken her and it will likely remain a mystery forever.
It's implied that it was Valyria that he took her to. She demanded that he take her home, and he took her to his home.
Also, they were definitely fire wyrms. They give off crazy heat (which is something the wyrms of Southoryos don't do), so much so that Lucamore Strong can feel Aerea's extremely hot skin even through his armour, and being put into ice water kills them, and they match the descriptions given by the kindly man when he describes the wyrms in the valyrian mines.
Why is all the cool stuff outside of westeros, where all the story happens?
Isn't that the norm in all of worldbuilding?
"We shall name her Aerea Targaryen."
"Excellent name!"
"Yes! We love it!"
"Of course you would say that, Amelia Bedelia and Julia Gulia."
Aerion Targaryen also works
Lmao julia gulia
The description of Aerea agony is worth a read.
I still don't understand how Euron survived Valyria, man must be a God.
You know he could be just boasting right
😂😂😂Euron is just Gaslight them
My man definitely just step foot in Valyria and immediately leave and gaslight everyone to think he actually explored Valyria
He has an entire suit of valerian armor and a horn that can control dragons. Mans has been to valyria.
To be fair we don't know what the horn does. He could have gotten that stuff from lots of places.
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Honestly I'd like to know exactly *how* the wyrms got in her in the first place. My weirdest guess is that the wyrm lifecycle development requires living tissue to incubate the "egg/larval" stages and she ate or breathed something in that infected her. Idk. This is one of those things we need answers for because yes mysteries can add alot of depth to a world it can be just as jarring and alienating.
The doom of Valyria is one of the more interesting things is ASOIAF lore to me.
Did these die in the doom? If the volcano burned so hot that Dragons burned did the worms burn in the ground. Feel like if the volcano erupted and the ground become too hot for them, they'd want out and pop up all along the ground probably a few in the cites, adding to the destruction of valyria
I think that was what the Doom was. An experiment that went horribly wrong and the fire worms infected everything in the capital.
I did remember a tale talking about how even dragons would burst into flame from the heat of the volcanic eruptions over taking them. Maybe it was volcano lava, but the worm infested in the dragons burning them from the inside out. Those who survived the infection of this magical bio Harvard event. Became the first patient zero of the Grey scale virus. Similar to the experiment of the child of the forest making the first white walkers to defend their homes, during the Age of heroes.
They dabbled in the small science and, over time, became obsessed and used wild magic, unpredictable magic to perform great and terrible things.
🪱 🐉 🪄 🧊 ⛄️.
Greyscale comes from a curse Mother Rhoyne placed on the area Garen the Great was executed. The area is still surrounded in supernatural fog from the curse.
The ancient land of Valyria probably had many monsters, not just dragons. There have been no movies about the land of Valyria.
Baloney. Everyone knows dragons came from the second moon when it drifted too close to the sun, cracked like an egg and the dragons came out and drank the fire of the sun
It is known.
It is known
"Can I have a bedtime story?"
"Sure honey"
Bedtime story:
The idea Is that she tried to breed with the fire worms through a twisted blood ritual first by seeding them with the dragon, then the dragon through her.
Do you really think she effed a fire wyrm?
@@melonhead8760 they probably effed her tbh, the book did say she had smoke emanating from her "nether regions"
and asoiaf isnt exactly shy about this kind of material
@@InitialPC Okay, now it is time to stop reading this comment section
They did seem to like making chimeras
A whole book about the fall of old Valyria would be amazing. Learning of the houses, blood magic and actual dragons bigger than Balerion would be one of the best stories.
This was the element Tremors was missing 😅
The scariest part is we all saw Vhagar and how much of a flying nuke godzilla she is in HOTD. Now imagine Balerion who still has her beat considerabky in sheer size and power. And there IS still smth out there that pretty much retired the Black Dread
I love all the little mini stories and extended lore in asoiaf... Like about the one Valerian Queen that rode her dragon as far south as she could for years straight
Jaenara Belaerys. She wasn't a queen, just a Valyrian dragonrider.
Didn’t one of the world books mention that visitors from Yheen found farmers and showed them how to tame dragons. The visitors were the first dragon riders. Idk I could be miss remembering
I just realized how similar The freehold and Krypton were, along with their ends🤔hmm the doom might’ve been a combination of volcanic eruptions and the faceless men killing mages that kept the fourteen flames under control.
Bingo 👍
The most horrific creatures that we know of...so far!
"combined through ancient blood magic".... Soooo.... Normal selective breeding then? 😅
You have a point but Martin's big on taking real world phenomena and sprinkling magic on it.
Naaaaah man. They combined T H E M S E L V E S with dragons.
I think it's clearly mentioned how one of the early valyrians, who were only a small village back then, climbed a mountain and tamed a dragon.
Your leaving out the best part, all the worms had human faces. That’s what I think ultimately happened to the Aryan Valerian’s. Their fire magic got a little too big for their britches and they all got incinerated and reborn as fire worms
Nowhere does it say they had human faces.
@@joelglanton6531 yes it does it’s in The World of Ice & Fire companion book
@@drgonzo305 Does it say faces or human faces? If I said my dog was making a face does that mean he has a human face?
@@joelglanton6531 human faces. And also hands.
@@joelglanton6531Thats such s stupid argument. by logic any creature that has a head also has a face, its just assumed, so why would he explicitly mention the detail of the face unless the face had some unexpected or particularly shocking/horrifying qualities. Like suggesting out of his brief writing on the creatures that he decided to include the fact they had faces, for no other reason than they had normal wyrm faces is so autism brained lol, like he was just naming body parts for the sake of naming body parts "they had faces! and mouths! and setae too, used for locomotion by compressing and decompressing their bodies. and this is the clitellum! my god they have anuses too!" like its so dumb lol, obviously he meant human faces, and the context clues of common sense and logic combined with him stating they had "hands" fuxking hands a anatomical feature found exclusively on humanoid life, kinda seals the deal for me.
The things beneath her skin weren't baby fire wyrms. Fire wyrms weren't actual worms. The ones under her skin were unidentified, which is why it's not confirmed she went to Valyria. They didn't know what those were or where they came from.
I'm a evolved fire worm
One thing everyone forgets about the exspanted lore of game of thrones/ a sing of ice and fire is that most of it is just a collection of mythic and legend. It not actual history but travels tall tales and stories collected by minsyers in the tower so who knows if any of it is actually tire and the greater distance away from westeros the lest accurate the information gets
So here are two aspirin and just call me in the morning, but make sure to finish that bottle.😮
She didn't steal Balerion. She was his rightful rider.
I wonder if these are what Bran saw in his first vision (in the books) when Jamie pushed him out of the tower window. We know he saw Jon Snow in the cold north, and also dragons. This would mean that Drogon would not be the last one, if it is in fact a prophetic dream and not something from the past. There are too many things that point to it being a prophetic vision, though. We do not know what he saw at the very end of that vision that frightened him so much that he awoke in tears, but those disgusting things would do the trick.
the extinction of humans can also do it
HBO pls announce a old valyria series
I don't buy the hybrid theory because their ability to perform powerful blood rituals relied on their established power, which they did not have until their acquirement of dragons.
Perhaps they had some other powers before, to make the dragons. Maybe the dragons were made to provide a new power source, or enhance what was already there
How epic would all this be as a spin off series
These are the stories that HBO should delve into deeper and put these on the screen I want to see these type of stories about Valeria or Valerian ways and the magic and the mages and all of that.
You can fight them in Elden Ring which GRRM helped create
It also deserves it's short series
The idea that dragons were a man made creature in his lore is so dope. Acknowledging wyverns as separate non domesticated natural creatures is also him calling out ppl saying his dragons are not actually “fantasy accurate dragons” plus making a dragon a homunculus of both valerians, wyverns and fire wyrms- the latter which gives the wyvern portion its size and ability to breathe fire, its strongest weapon a shout out to dune and its use of giant grounded worms that are directly correlated to the ruling houses (targerean/atredes) power. Also the mini fire wyrms that sprout out of her is also accurate to the mini worms in dune. So cool grrm. So cool
Dude that's f**ked.
What happens in Valyria, stays in Valyria.
There's so much about Old Valeria we still don't know.
How VERY(!)...Melnibonean(!)... Elric and Stormbringer would be pissed!!!
I'd love to see a series with the original people, the monsters , the magic it sounds insanely good to watch
dude love your videos!!!!
My theory is that she and balerion went to valyria and the curious little girl wandered too far from her dragon and got attacked by firewyrms, she was then chased back to balerion where he fought the wyrms off suffering considerable damage and flew home with her and on the journey back she began her painful, horrific downwards spiral
Make sense how Caraxes got his serpant like looks from
They are adorable!!!
forgot to mention the giant wound that the giant dragon received meaning also whatever else is out there there's something monstrously large too
Need this live action asap
almost sounds like greyscale when he was describing it......
Aerea's story in F&B was the most disturbing thing I had read in all the books
I thought the dragons came from when one of the moons cracked open (meteor hit?) and dragons flew out
They need a whole new show about old valyrian which will take us into aegon's story
kinda sick to think that Targaryen bodies are the perfect host for a fire worm since they can take heat
So these creature are ancestors of ours Caraxes?
Omg
Get wyrm'd
Dragons were here before us lol
Moral of the story: Do not steal dragons.
Dragons exist in Asshai even in the current story. Bran saw them in his dream in ASOIAF: GOT (book 1). He saw 4 IIRC. Dragons on Asshai predate those in valyria.
So much for 'kill it with fire' 😂
I'd like to see these in the TV Show!!!
How they mix Wyverns and Firewyrms to create Dragons when the Dragons ARE Wyverns😂
would love a series set in ancient Valeria, the current series isn’t the same without the looming threat of Others, kinda like The Expanse without the Protomolecule, or Laconia, or those other things
Need a show on creatures like this....
If i was Aerea ill just asked balerion to torch me away like hell naw being boiled slowly inside is much shittier than it sounds
This is dope. Lets not forget ice dragons in the deep north are also a real thing.
we need a story of the doom.. its so clouded in mystery.. armies go in and never come out.. and if there is something there that can harm the black dread.. makes it more interesting..
The doom of valyria was fire worms
Or maybe someone blew the place up when they realised that millions of fireworms were beneath the surface
It never specifically stated it was fire wyrms that killed aelya
Belarion ran into a true dragon and got his butt whooped.
Those firewyrms look like really bad pets
Yeah and Balerion was heavily wounded which says a lot about whatever the hell attacked them
What ever it was, was (_______) enough to scar Balerion
You can't steal a dragon! Balerion knew what he was doing!
People need to learn the difference between dragon and wyvern.
They faced the wild dragon of the valerian emperor bigger then balerian,they say.....
Dont drink the water in Valyria. This happened to me in Costa Rica. I shat pure fire for many moons.