The Rise and Fall of Valyria
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2024
- The Valyrian Freehold was once the greatest civilisation there ever was. After discovering and bending fire breathing dragons to their control they quickly expanded their borders. Gaining the attention of the Ancient Empire of Old Ghis, who reigned supreme over much of essos. The Ghiscari looked to Valyrian's control over dragons with jealously and desired to claim the power for their own, sparking the Ghiscari Wars. Five Great conflicts followed with Valyria coming out on top each time, until finally they wiped the Ghiscari from the map. Raising their cities, pyrimids and salting the land so that Old Ghis could never grow again. With little contest Valyria expanded into Essos adopting the practice of slavery from their fallen foes, they desired more land and slaves to mine the precious resourced below Valyria. While The Freehold faced little challenge from the Andals and Rhoynar their undoing would come all the same. After a cataclysmic event triggered the eruption of a chain of volcanos on the Valyrian Peninsula. In a single day their great civilisation was sent to the history books. Though other dragon lords survived for a time. Within a few years House Targaryen was left as the old dragon riding family in all of the known world.
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It's obvious how the Valyrians did it; just look at Nettles in a dance of dragons. She tamed her dragon with sheep, what were the Valyrians before they were dragon riders, sheep farmers, who likely worshiped the great Shepard. Personally I believed they tamed dragons over hundreds of years through friendship. Then the Asshai taught them blood magic, binding their blood to dragons creating permanent blood bonds.
Heck no lol
yes. your idea makes sense
Valyrians weren't sheep farmers just the targaryens
@@miketime4290bruh 😒 read books
Rick and Morty settled the bonding issue a while ago, soooo......
I would love a book about Valyria before the doom.🐉
Sadly George will die before we ever see a book like that, hopefully he has people studying under him for when that time comes.
Would be difficult, not only because of George´s age but also because the width of that subject, what exactly will he write about, cant be only a description, we need characters, and thats the difficult part.
Or some sort of MMO RPG like SWTOR but for GOT and it's set in the time of old Valyria. But a show would definitely be my first ask.
@@spicymonkey7660I think (and hope) someone will take on his legacy (or maybe max will take it on themselves) and create a story on old Valyria- the fanbase eats this shit up and rightfully so.
Winds of Winter and Dream of Spring will be enough
Sending in 300 dragons after 3 were killed like aight Settle down Rhoynar 🤣🤣🤣
Targaryens was among the least of the noble lords in Old Valyria, if a least house like them have a dragon like Balerion, jst think of the dragons of the powerful houses
The targaryen were among the weakest of the dragon lords (Who were at the peak of nobility) There were other noble classes beside the dragon lords.
@@Sacressane yet they still died
@@Sacressane House Belaerys
Headcanon:
By taking that one account that the Valyrians were taught by a group of mysterious people to control dragons, my guess is that the Valyrians were suppose to be the next generation of Magic Users and defenders of Mankind after the Long Night had nearly wiped out the previous Magic Users but unfortunately the Valyrians' descent into degeneracy and lust for power forced these mysterious people to destroy them.
That is an interesting idea ngl.
That could also be how they learned about making Valyrian steel as it was a way the last magic civilization had found to fight the night and researching how to more easily produce such rare material they found a way to the 2 options in the video, merger the bloodline of reivern ( couldn’t find how to right the name) and the fire serpents per se creating the dragons with the ability of fire and grow to enormous size as the serpents does and the ability to fly from wiverns that would add a great advantage in any type of war and after with the experience of merging bloodlines they tried to merger they bloodlines with dragons so they could control them, but I feel like that wasn’t they ultimate goal which probably spelled they doom, after all they could control dragons and some had special abilities but they didn’t really had the power of dragons themselves.
And like the norm once a civilization reaches its max it starts to fight among each other about who can amasses the most power.
That's a good theory, but valyrians didn't really show interest in Westeros/the long night. There's no contact mentioned except for a tower made of black stone.
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Maybe at first they do but after toying with the power of the Dragons for so long by destroying the Ghiscari, the Rhoynar and the Andal Realms, most of the Valyrians had lost their true purpose except for the Targaryens.
Great video!! You have helped to slay the dragon known as Boredom!! Keep making great videos and I'll keep watching!
I am glad you liked it!
Would love to see a tv show around the history of Old Valyria
Budget 😂 problem 😂 yea we can make anime on valariya but not series like house of dragon
My theory is it was a combination of the faceless men getting involved and them delving too deep, stretching the resources and magic of the volcanoes, which awoke something or caused the magic to blow up, creating the equivalent of a nuclear reactor having a meltdown and releasing magic that irradiated and warped everything.
You know, a lot of people want a show or a book on the Doom Of Valyria…but I genuinely think the mystery of what happened is what makes it so intriguing.
I still to this day stay up at night thinking about Old Valyria sometimes, if what truly happened was ever revealed I think it would ruin it. I get this same feeling from the mystery of what happened to Aerea Targaryen and what could’ve possibly wounded Balerion so badly…these things are like my Roman Empire.
Completely understand the mystery throughout GRRM's books are part of the fun. Solving or theorising about those mysteries is even better, IMO.
@@loreramble “solve” all you want in your head, just don’t push for the author or a television outlet to do it.
Answers ruin questions.
I think a good story could be told about the fall, even if we never find out what happened. Maybe even the Valyrians didn’t know what happenex exactly..
@darcymoon2109 I belive old valyria is grrm's Atlantis, so we could get a depiction of the doom similar to how Disney showed the doom of Atlantis in their animated movie.
Love the longform video! Have been a big fan of the shorts! And would love to see more longwr videos.
You have a verh good voice to listen to.
I can see how George R.R.M was based on the Roman Empire, like Rome fought the surrounding nations in Europe and Asia the Valerians did the same. And after Rome fell, Europe lived in the shadow of Rome’s glory for centuries many technological and societal improvements we’re lost. The same happened Valerians it seems. And arguably only in the last hundred years have we truly surpassed Rome in terms of glory which took over a thousand years. And it would likely take the world of ASOIAF a long time to do the same aswell.
I would agree. The Targaryens kinda remind me of the Byzantine empire. Holding onto tradition like that.
Valkyrian Empire was influence by 3 other empires of history
Their ambition was taken from the Roman Empore
Their technology and power were on paton with the British Empire
Their sick pleasure with Cruelty was match with The Japanese Empire
Yeah the Valkyrian Emipre was the goat
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My only nitpicky is that there Dominion only stretched to west essos with how powerful they were it doesn't make sense that they only ruled half of essos not even the whole continent just half that's absurd, they should have expanded to different continents like westsros and southryos thats how real life major super powers usually go , when your that powerful you never just stay in your own playground.
@@thatoneblackdude3333they established outposts and colonies in Westeros and sothorys
@@jay-1800 yea but what did they do with it ? Nothing hense my problem old valyrea should have conquered all of essos and westaros via the first men or anduls or southoryous they shouldn't just have dominion over only half of essos being that powerful.
This would have been a great tv series
I think the Asshaii legend is the correct one. The ancient people who taught their arts to the Valyrians would have been the Children of the Forest.
We know that the Children can bond with animals, the dragon riders bond with their dragons.
The Greenseers can connect to the weirwoods and see event at long distances, contact people into their dreams. Valyrians sorcerers can connect to their glass candle, made of obsidian, to do the same thing.
The Children helped the Last Hero to forge a magical steel with fire magic and blood sacrifice. Valyria sorcery is rooted in fire and blood magic, their valyrian steel is imply to be made with blood sacrifices.
The Children live in caves full of corpses and the Shadows Lands is a mountainous region with a lot of caves and there is a city call the corpse city.
In the show we can see that valyrian steel can kill the Others just like dragonglass and in the books the dragonsteel sword made with the Children is also describe as having the same powers as dragonglass. So the tv series already confirmed that the Children did make "valyrian" steel and are most likely the ones who taught the Valyrians how to make it and how to tame the dragons.
HoT D also has material implying a connexion between the Valyrian gods and the Old Gods of the Children : awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/List_of_characters_created_for_House_of_the_Dragon#Shrubbery
I keep watching videos about valyria, there is nothing more fascinating about this world than Valyria and also Aashai.
Thank you bro
The tale of Valyria is basically the silmarillion of ASOIAF it's vast complicated and if someone tries to adapt it it will be expensive as hell
Would be cool to see a series of this time brought to life, kinda like rings of power. But I doubt the author would and with his age and timely matter with current books he might never get to it
Like rings of power? So you want a dull and poorly written version made by high school interns, that is so different from the source material that only the names and locations are correct.
@@mr.s2005 I mean concept wise yes, I don’t mean quality haha
Wow what a video
We know that the dagger is around, and Joffrey and Jamie’s but Jamie gave his to Breane and that Jon Snows has a valerian steel and Sam, So that’s five out of 227 LMFAOO if I recall correctly lol 😅
Where did you get all this information? I just started reading my first ever grrm book and so i wondering which book or books contain this history
Like playing a games, bits and bits are everywhere
Imagine a show on this. Would need 100 mil budget for each episode lol
11:57 i believe that even is a lot of dreamers of different families had the same dream, i mean the profetic dream about the doom of valyria i doubt the empire or the city would do anything to believe them, targaryens were the only ones with strenght and madness to follow a prophecy.
4:37 actually no, Targaryen do just for culture. A lot of valyrians still exists in westeros like celtigar, velaryon are not extinct even in Daenerys time. Targaryens do incest because is a cultural thing from Valyria. They don't even was the most strong family before the downfall of Valyria.
No Marcos. You need to understand much of the history of Valyria has been sanitized for the human world. The Shadow people of Asshai came to Valyria and created the half human and animal creatures. One them was the Valyrians themselves. The Targaryen stubbled on this truth in Westeros when some the Targaryen Princess gave birth to babies that where born prematurely and died. They had dragon scales and baby wings on their bodies.
Can you make a video explaining daemon targaryen and how even though he's done horrible deeds,he is one of the most liked characters in the show
Wow the Valyrians were awful
Like Tolkiens elves
The Cannibal dragon
We really need the age of valyrian
Don’t forget house velaryon escaped to Westeros to
This is a silly theory but Eurion could steal a dragon and mutate it with a kraken using blood magic.
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