The Bear Archery Podcast Ep. 207: The Fairy
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ต.ค. 2024
- Dylan is joined by The Ranch Fairy to talk all things arrows. The conclusion: figure out WHY you shoot what you shoot. WHY do some things work better than others, and what’s going to get the best results in the end?
There’s not another person out there who puts logic in Bow Hunting!!
A great wealth of knowledge
There is really nothing to argue I mean where is Troy wrong??
This was a breath of fresh air. Way better than John Dudley acting like a total arrogant jerk. Let's all listen, talk and learn. Thanks guys.
Please add links to the products you were mentioning in the video... sound great for building arrows
Use a carabiner and hook the handheld release to your bow. I shoot trad now, but when i shot a conpound i put a loop of paracord on my release and a carabiner on my belt loop and put it in my pocket
Great video I lean to the heavy with a crossbow but this is mainly bow efficiency and saving limbs lol.
600-610 grains is beautiful from my crossbow. But I would feel very comfortable on game with a 525-550 grains no problems.
When you talk about grainage, does that apply to the head or the whole arrow? Great show love archery. I use a recurve bow with an arrow rest and thumb release, which people have critised but it works for me.
The whole arrow. Tim advocate for 650+grains arrows with 200 grain heads set up FOC
Just a thought for the people at Bear Archery . A three piece hybrid long bow would be a great new product . A bunch of the people on you tube shoot them .
They are very quiet and shoot great .
If you can show the impact force then you’ll have no problem proving the point. For example people do speed tests on Bows. It’s pretty straight forward. They shoot the same specs (arrow weight, draw weight, draw length) and they can see which bow shoots faster.
If you can shoot a target that measures how hard it got hit. Then you can compare how hard each arrow weight and different FOC percentages hit the target.
You’ll have a clear visual of how much punch power the arrow actually generated on the target.
That cool expensive orange thing. Is just telling you what is happening in the air. Show us what the target feels.
I have forgot my release just like Ranch Fairy is saying. I have since switched to a thumb release BUT, I still carry a spare in my backpack.
It's been a long time for me, so ...
... how much did an old Bear broadhead on a cedar shift actually weigh. ?
my full length poc shafts with a 160grain bh and 3 5.5inch feathers. weigh 650grain. so if i had a standard 125g bh 615grain.
A screw and a single bevel broad head are not even close in comparison. A screws threads are 90 deg opposite of the shaft, a single bevels edge is parallel and on the same plain.
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Jesus loves the Ranch Fairy 🧚♂️
Bitzenburgers suck, save up your money and just get the Vane Master Pro from LAC.
Its triple the cost, but for how often the need for fletching occurs it will absolutely be worth it.
Spend good money on the tools that are used often
Time to target had him stumpt. What's gravity have to do with it? GRaViTy DrAgggINg eFIcieNt . Ive had more animals move off the sound of the bow than i have hit the humerus. Speed and stealth are the most important factors. I've tried heavy and I've tried light. This guy is an extreme. Its likely for most, that extreme,(on either side of the spectrum) is not appropriate.
I have given a lot of thought to this over the years. So I sobbed it with math, which doesn't care...
Assuming an average light arrow setup. 75lbs, 28" draw, with a 400gn arrow... shoots around 300fps. Agreed?
Then you have an arrow weighing 650gr out of that same setup. Let's call it 240fps. (I used my lab radar to chrono these speeds out of my VXR at 76lbs. I have a 27.5" draw so I know they are accurate. I'm sure you will agree. The point is, no exaggerated claims)
Now we do math. Assuming you intend to shoot an elk or deer at 60 yards.
60 yards is 180 feet.
The light arrow, moving 300fps takes 0.6 seconds to reach is target. This is assuming the arrow is launched in a vacuum, meaning the arrow isn't slowing as it flies.
180(feet)/300(fps)= 0.6 sec.
The heavy arrow takes 0.75sec to reach that same target (again, in a vacuum)
180(feet)/240(fps)= 0.75sec.
That's taking 15 one-thousandths of a second longer in flight time.
The average human blink takes 12 one- thousandths of a second. Don't believe me, Google it.
Is that 15 one thousandths of a second beating the deer at 60 yards?
That "gap" in fight time between both arrows is even less at closer ranges.
When were talking about a moment in time lasting the same as a blink, it kind of makes sense to shoot a setup efficient enough to make it through heavy bone.
At the end of the day, you gotta shoot what you have confidence in.
Happy hunting!
Great example, and what kills me is that this same argument for faster arrows was common clear back in the mid-80's........when 220 was pretty fast, and was being compared to a 200 fps bow.
This is one of those things where RF only looks extreme because of how extreme the "norm" has become. They have been pushing speed hard for decades.
220 uzed tp be fast, and 0eople killed deer. Deer arent any faster today than then.
@stephenballard3759 it's pretty evident for those of us who have hunted with a bow for a couple decades, or have come from a traditional background that when speed started selling, everyone bought into it. Then when their 400gr arrow only penetrated 6" from a flagship bow, they blame the broadhead. Without being aware, they spend more money chasing a problem that has been solved for 500 years. The indigenous people's across the globe hunted with a stick and cordage. Flinging arrows that weigh over a thousand grains. Sure, they didn't have carbon. But in geographical areas where larger game was pursued, heavier arrows were discovered. They chose to use that setup over lighter wood materials. But when you hunt to survive, I suppose it's more important to shoot a setup that is better known for feeding your family.
Another thing that kills me... everyone who shoots a fast compound with a light arrow talks about trajectory and speed being so important like nobody has ever harvested game with a stick bow.
I'll leave with a parting Riddle...
How can Doc Ashby get full penetration and even passthrough on dangerous game like cape buffalo from a longbow with an arrow weighing often as much as 1000gr. But TH-cam is littered with videos of deer being shot with a flagship compound shooting 300+fps with 3/4 the arrow sticking out of it?
Oh, and if someone wants to say "wEll TheY HIt bONe sO tHe aRRoW dIdnT pENetRaTe" congrats... now you know why shooting a 650+gr arrow would help most hunters... with all 11 other factors, it gives 1:1 odds of breaching heavy bone.
@@PersonalBestOutdoorsexactly. More momentum more ke and a few thousands of a second slower is so worth the benefit.