I like the length of the philips head for recessed screws, the file is idiotic though ! lol The D2 blade and its robust shape are outstanding 👍 The awl is totally the wrong shape, they're used for starting/enlarging screw holes in soft wood, aluminium or plastic. It needs to be a Victorinox style spike ! ( Even Leatherman get this wrong though !) I really like how the ferro rod is protected from moisture, that's a nice touch. I wonder if they removed the flat head and Philips they could almost fit a 4mm socket ? Learherman could really learn from Roxon's responsiveness to customer feedback 👍
I have a Leatherman free P2 and actually quite like the awl shape there. Admittedly, I've mainly used as a scraper or for adding a hole in a belt that was too big for my son but it does both jobs quite well!
Another nice review. I quite like the tool in this version. Tolerances are tighter than in the old one I own. They actually used and improved the flip out tool set from the KS2. Biggest improvement was materials overall and the flat head which was lacking. The whistle ferro rod is more secure than in the old version for me too. Very little wobble in the handles on my version. Pouch is too big. Almost want a Leatherman style pouch instead instead!
I bought the KS2 elite because of your reviews. And I really like it except for two issues (that I can totally live with): 1) having the knife thumb stud on the same side as the clip means I have to always rotate it when I take it out my pocket to fire out the knife. It’s frustrating. 2) the thumb stud doesn’t seem to be removable which makes sharpening the blade much more difficult than it needs to be.
Love Roxon and what they are doing but aside their KS2E, there is always something missing or odd. To be fair, it's true for all brands. But since I primarily use muti-tool for camping, I was a bit more disappointed than usual by this one. I'd rather have something smaller like the Sog Powerpoint (or something from Roxon M series but with better steel), however, if I had to carry a bigger MT, I'd rather have a real file and their awesome scissors than the Flint stone/Whistle. Those can be packed separately and beside, their usefulness is questionable. Thanks for the review though.
Where is roxon based out of? I haven't bought any of their stuff yet but I've enjoyed seeing their new stuff. I wanted to get my wife a signal for her first large multitool so she'd quit stealing my wave. Do you think this would be a good option as a first tool for her or should i get her the new modular roxon?
I think the Flex would be a more comfortable option just because it doesn't feel as stocky as the Flash. Both are great tools but the Flex feels more refined.
@hvacbudget8600 i think the flex is what she'd want. I don't think she understands fully how cool the modular system is! Thanks for your opinion. She is always using scissors though. What do you think of that tool with the shears instead of pliers?
My question is, is it rust proof?? The knife isn’t, but if the rest of the tool is I would consider it. The leatherman is rust proof and I pay more to buy it. My thoughts. Thx
Basically no steel is truly rust proof.... This should have a high resistance towards rusting tho. 4116 steel on the small tools (same as victorinox,i believe) and 420j on the pliers (very rust resistant and 5cr or 3cr for the body (very rust resistant) and the blade d2 kinda semi stainless not nearly as rust resistant as any stainless steel but way better than low aloy carbon steels. Unless you leave it wet or near salt there shouldnt be any rust issues unless heat treatment is off.
@@scrick7112 oh for sure, Like i said the most rust prone steel on this multitool is supposed to be d2 which is still semi stainless :) so to answer your original question the rest of the multitool is probably as rust resistant ir close to it as leatherman or victorinox
Nice to see that constant improvement approach.
I agree!
Roxon has been doing great work lately, and it may be the best among Chinese multi-tool brands.
I agree!
Yeah and add Nextool and maybe GHK.
I wish plenty harvest resells some of their multitools.
The sharp edge on the saw is your ferro rod scraper
I like the length of the philips head for recessed screws, the file is idiotic though ! lol
The D2 blade and its robust shape are outstanding 👍
The awl is totally the wrong shape, they're used for starting/enlarging screw holes in soft wood, aluminium or plastic. It needs to be a Victorinox style spike ! ( Even Leatherman get this wrong though !)
I really like how the ferro rod is protected from moisture, that's a nice touch.
I wonder if they removed the flat head and Philips they could almost fit a 4mm socket ?
Learherman could really learn from Roxon's responsiveness to customer feedback 👍
I have the KS2 elite which has the same awl/reamer. I prefer it over my SAK ones.
I have a Leatherman free P2 and actually quite like the awl shape there. Admittedly, I've mainly used as a scraper or for adding a hole in a belt that was too big for my son but it does both jobs quite well!
Got here faster than roxon updating their tools
LoL!
more great stuff from Roxon
Definitely!
Another nice review. I quite like the tool in this version. Tolerances are tighter than in the old one I own. They actually used and improved the flip out tool set from the KS2. Biggest improvement was materials overall and the flat head which was lacking. The whistle ferro rod is more secure than in the old version for me too. Very little wobble in the handles on my version. Pouch is too big. Almost want a Leatherman style pouch instead instead!
Thanks! I agree this upgrade feels better finished!
I bought the KS2 elite because of your reviews. And I really like it except for two issues (that I can totally live with):
1) having the knife thumb stud on the same side as the clip means I have to always rotate it when I take it out my pocket to fire out the knife. It’s frustrating.
2) the thumb stud doesn’t seem to be removable which makes sharpening the blade much more difficult than it needs to be.
Glad it works good for the most part!
Roxon need to make a bushcraft/camping multitool
I wonder if they tested the twisting strength of the Phillips head…?
Also, who heat treated the D2 for them?
Really enjoying your content!
Thanks!! Appreciate it!
Love Roxon and what they are doing but aside their KS2E, there is always something missing or odd. To be fair, it's true for all brands. But since I primarily use muti-tool for camping, I was a bit more disappointed than usual by this one. I'd rather have something smaller like the Sog Powerpoint (or something from Roxon M series but with better steel), however, if I had to carry a bigger MT, I'd rather have a real file and their awesome scissors than the Flint stone/Whistle. Those can be packed separately and beside, their usefulness is questionable.
Thanks for the review though.
Where is roxon based out of? I haven't bought any of their stuff yet but I've enjoyed seeing their new stuff. I wanted to get my wife a signal for her first large multitool so she'd quit stealing my wave. Do you think this would be a good option as a first tool for her or should i get her the new modular roxon?
I think the Flex would be a more comfortable option just because it doesn't feel as stocky as the Flash. Both are great tools but the Flex feels more refined.
@hvacbudget8600 i think the flex is what she'd want. I don't think she understands fully how cool the modular system is! Thanks for your opinion. She is always using scissors though. What do you think of that tool with the shears instead of pliers?
DIN - Deutsche Industrie Norm (Gemran industry standard).
1.4116 is the typical German kitchen knife steel.
Interesting! Thanks!
My question is, is it rust proof?? The knife isn’t, but if the rest of the tool is I would consider it. The leatherman is rust proof and I pay more to buy it. My thoughts. Thx
Basically no steel is truly rust proof....
This should have a high resistance towards rusting tho.
4116 steel on the small tools (same as victorinox,i believe) and 420j on the pliers (very rust resistant and 5cr or 3cr for the body (very rust resistant) and the blade d2 kinda semi stainless not nearly as rust resistant as any stainless steel but way better than low aloy carbon steels.
Unless you leave it wet or near salt there shouldnt be any rust issues unless heat treatment is off.
@@NarowAR07 I get all that. O1,A2, Magnacut AEB-L. But certain steels are more prone to rust easer.
@@scrick7112 oh for sure,
Like i said the most rust prone steel on this multitool is supposed to be d2 which is still semi stainless :) so to answer your original question the rest of the multitool is probably as rust resistant ir close to it as leatherman or victorinox
Does the 4mm bit adapter come with the tool? Do the 4mm bits come either the tool?
No, they have to be bought separately.
I suspect Dixon are aiming for a specific price point and the D2 blade increased the cost significantly. ..
The elite version of the KS2 comes with the bit set. They might bundle it with this as well now.
Man, those 8 year olds in China sure are working hard to get us a $45 multitool!
👍🏼
Does the 4mm bit adapter come with the tool? Do the 4mm bits come either the tool?