SAFE vs RISKY DIESEL POWER UPGRADES - 5 things you need to ask before choosing!
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- If you want to learn about Diesel Chips, Performance Chips, Power Modules for getting more power from your Diesel - or maybe you're looking at tune, remap, flash tune of a common rail diesel - either way you want safe and reliable power gains. Watch as Shaun Whale and Ultimate Diesel Tuning dive into the topic of Remaps vs chips and show you by putting a Toyota LandCruiser 79 Series and a Mitsubishi MQ Triton on the Dyno back to back with Chips, standard and Flash tunes to show you the different ways you can increase power.
Get a quote from Ultimate Diesel Tuning - the experts in diesel performance here: ultimatedieseltuning.com.au/
The 1 thing you need to ensure happens when you increase power is you get it done on a dyno by an expert. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
I'm not austrailian (Texas born and raised) but I do like to 4 wheel, but I have never seen such a thing as this. Incredible driving, incredible rigs, and plenty of entertaining and informative content. Since returning from a Feburary Big Bend backcountry camp trip to a COVID locked down world I have been watching your enormous back log of youtube videos almost daily (sometimes 2 X a day). I might not be an Austrailian 4 wheeler, but I watched 4WD action yesterday so I can now drive anything and fix anything that is broken. lol
Love you guys, started planning an Austrailia trip for 2025 just from watching your awesome videos.
I've got 5 years to prep for it and let the economy recharge. Is it even possible to rent a 4WD to drive on some of your "mild tracks"?
Cheers, keep up the content!!!
Can hire reasonably good 4x4 for mild tracks , do the cape mate be worth it
I've got a 2018 MQ Triton Exceed and took it to Ultimate Diesel Tune and the results I had are almost identical to the results you guys showed here - demonstrates consistency. Ultimate were really good at asking me what I use it for now and what I want to use it for including future mods. Thankfully I'm not carrying any tradie boxes on the back and I'm not wanting a muscle 4x4 either. I love how it performs now even when I'm not towing my 14ft offroad campervan. I compared some prices but half of them never called me back so Ultimate got my business based on 95% of your recommendation Shauno!! Bloody legend mate! It's almost got me wanting to do the Cape!
Awesome feedback Tim! Cheers mate.
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Can I just ask, once my vehicle has had a custom tune, and I want to play it safe and disconnect it when I go for services at dealer, is it $1500 everytime to reupload the same tune ? Without the dyno run which is not needed ?
Very well produced advert!
Great video mate. I have been on a limbo between going Chip tuning and remapping dyno. Now I know what to do. Cheers
Wonderful advice - if you are modifying an engine it’s worth every cent to Dyno check before and after!
For some that would mean paying $400 to $1000 TWICE before/after a minor exhaust/intake modification. In those cases I'd say just tune it afterward.
I had my 200 series ECT and ECU remapped, the best thing I ever did. Went from 142.3 kw atw to 178.4 kw atw close enough to 25% improvement. Torque improved by 25% too. The ECT now drops into 6th at 80 Kmh and I’m pulling 1500 rpm at 100 km/h. Economy has also improved both when towing and unladen. It goes like a scalded cat.
In combustion engines, power is the mathematical product of torque and angular velocity (=RPM). Since Diesel engines have a natural RPM limit due to the way combustion works, the only way to get more power is to increase torque.
@@aj_moto1044 Exactly
I luv this information,so many people listen to there mate or mate of a friend that knows how to tune & boast your car. Also it doesn't say much for DC chip plug & play !!! As you say every car is different even it's the same make & model 👍👍👍
Give us a call about DP Chips mate - 1800034373
Thanks Shaun for getting me onto this mob, it was from the video of the 1000 buck track. Got a $200 discount too, bonus 👍👍 thanks mate. Got my Hilux 2017 sr5 done. I got it done by Andrew, from the Dandenong branch. It’s done 90k plus k’s, been averaging 10.5/100 pre tune, post tune 8.8/100- 9.1/100, amazing benefits. I absolutely love how the vehicle can accelerate and the rev gauge just sits on around 2k and sometimes even drops in revs slightly, while accelerating in speed. I decided to do a tune for fuel consumption reasons and not power reasons. However, vehicle now looses traction when I tow my trailer up hills on take off, it has never done that while towing in the past. I can not believe the fuel saving. When I get my next lux, I’m getting it done from the time the dealer hands me the key. Unfortunately, my intake was fairly dirty, so there was an additional cost to do a chemical clean to the intake manifold, all good though. Very happy with my tune, and highly recommended.
Awesome feedback mate, thank you.
Love these videos
I have had my Hilux tuned by Ultimate diesel in Dandenong, I highly recommend using them to get the power and torque out of your 4wd. They really do care about your vehicle and make you 100% aware of any potential problems pre tune, I spent $5500 to get great numbers out of my Hilux, in this they also found my injectors to be leaking and in need of replacement. All round they have helped me discover the true potential from my 4wd and have done so safely and without any unnecessary nonsense. Thank you Ultimate Tuning Dandenong!
$5500!?? Jesus, you'd pretty much just buy a whole new engine for that!
When your on the money I was, it really doesn't matter
David Edwards weird flex but okay mate
Are services inherently more expensive there in Australia? I live in Las Vegas USA, and I spent $500 bucks for a dyno tune on my vehicle. $5500!? Did they do a complete rebuild for you? That's obscenely expensive for tuning. $5500 bucks would upgrade both turbos on my truck (3.5 ecoboost), or upgrade to a Whipple 3.4 for my car.
Hey guys, the custom dyno tune did NOT cost David $5500. We also carried out an on-car chemical soot clean to his 4WD & also replaced all injectors (which are very expensive as you will know). Just thought we'd clear that up!
Massive info right there..thanx a lot....the Dyno
Where I live, dyno are scarce & tuner usually go for ‘general’ tune without asking their customers & customers usually only asks for more power without defining what sort of power they need. I have taken the chip route, I didn’t need the power all the time. Might need to retune my rig as I am more aware of my driving style & needs over the years.
Very informative video there mates
If I had 5 dollars for every time Shauno says “dyno”, I could buy a cruiser 😂
you could buy his 79 ;)
Thanks this video was very informative.
Love your videos
What are the AFR"s for the cruiser and the triton ? Why not so that as well .
You were talking about pre inspection, do you ever recommend the terra clean for diesels? Is it safe
Alway impressed by how little power a v8tdi can make
They're very restricted from factory.
Just one of the hundred things you’ve gotta change on the buckets of crap.
@@shanenorwell8580 far from a bucket of crap
Nasty business. Nah not really. Look how much of them you’ve gotta change to make them half decent.
@Julz De I think you may be the one who’s high if you think the vdj “lasts forever” the engine themselves are solid but there’s inherent problems with pretty much every component that bolts onto them.
These vids are great
Where do you recommend to go in south East Queensland to get a tune done on a older vehicle? 1HZ with aftermarket turbo
Great Video . I have a 2021 PX3 Ranger XLT auto 3.2 litre on the way ( Its on the slow boat from China ?) . What can i expect in gains. My last Ranger would not sit on 100Kph while towing our 2 tonne caravan without hunting between 5th and 6th gears at the sight of any type of rise. I`m sure this is killing my fuel usage .
And what do both options do for the warranty?
Good advice.
So here i Kenya, the tuning scene is not great. I don't have access to a top quality tuner who would give me good safe power. What would you suggest in that respect considering i may have to do a remote tune?
What about custom tunes on old trucks? My ln61 dosent have an ecu or any guages that say what's happening in the engine other than boost? Are they worth taking to a dyno or just wind the fuel up till it smokes a bit like I have aha
Is the recommended course of action to firstly chip it and then dyno tune?
Very informative, but sounded like an advertisement for Ultimate Diesel Tuning towards the end. I'm scepitical about ALL of the discussed upgrades, in particular what happens if the engine in a new vehicle fails and the warranty is voided. Will the Chip supplier/ECU Tuner repair the engine? Will they offer a warranty on the drivetrain for the life of the factory warranty? Lastly, Shaun if what UDT offers is so safe have YOU had them tune/upgrade ALL 3 of your vehicles?, what about Grahams D-Max? I think this should be an HONEST discussion for the next Beers in the Shed.
Most tuners will offer their own warranty, like we do. Unsure about what type of warranties the chip brands supply. And yes we have remapped Shauno's 79 Series so far!
I had my Pajero tuned and it’s a dream
2.8?
What are your thoughts on iDrive throttle controller?
Good vid Shauno, great advice!
Is it a good idea to get a chip in my 3.0 D4D Hilux? Just keep in mind my vehicle is only 2x4 and I'm situated in south Africa.. So I'm purely just looking for more power without damaging anything
G'day, I'm in Vic. Who would you guys recommend on remapping my 2016 dmax?
Heyy Shauno and Graham. Big 4wd Action and diesel fan here. 05’ model Rodeo long wheel base 3.0itd with 350k on the clock and only had to replace the battery and alternator once. Love watching the dmax and 0$Suk lines through gnarly tracks! Just wondering if you guys could chat a bit about the vis system you guys use? Is the app similar? If I purchase the app will it run off satellite nav or my data? Are there saved preset 4wd tracks in the software? Cheers, Taz
what do you think is the best upgrade for the 2.5l 2kd hilux?
Will this work on a Kia Carnival 2020?
D4HB
What kind of increase can the transmission and CVs take without breaking?
I see you have an outlet in Dandenong, which is good for us in Melbourne
I recently removed my throttle controller because it was causing permanent DTCs and limp mode requiring a trip to the auto leckie on a flat top, the leckie erasing the DTC.
This happened twice before he confirmed it was the chip in the controller degrading.
The controller had been in for a year without problem up till then. A proper tune will always be best, I think.
Can those sorts of tunes be done on earlier models such as 2000 hilux?
What can you do for a 1hz 105 series with a bolt on turbo kit?
This is great..If you live in a country where you can get a DYNO tune. But what if you live Papua New Guinea where you can't! I just bought a 2021 GU Patrol with a ZD30. What's my best option for getting results like a DYNO tune?
Excellent content Shaun and co keep up the good work , I can’t believe all the negative ney sayer comments out there ,in response to this ,sound advice . To all those people who are wondering. I have both 79 series dual cab 2020 and a (ml triton GLX-R2008 THAT CAME WITH A 10 YEAR WARRANTY ,that I have thrashed the shit out of ,). ......the standard optioned triton wins hands down for stock performance ,comfort and drivability . PLEASE NOTE I DID NOT INCLUDE TOWING or payload ,we’ll leave that to the land cruisers
Hi I have a 2002 Toyota prado 3ltd it has 425000ks on it how long would it take to custom turn my rig and what price range would I be looking at.
I have a 2002 mitsubishi shogun sport 2.5td and would like a bit more power from my truck however there does not seem to be any options available other than the genuine ralliart chip which are few and far between are there any sutions you know of that I can do i am in England so popping down to you guys is not an option any advice would be appreciated. Thank you in advance
Wow! Interesting results 👍😎
Good video Mate
Shauno , with a re map - what happens when the power button near gear stick is used , does it change engine coding or only gear box response on revs. 200 series 2016 model L C .
It doesn't affect the different modes, Glen. The PWR buttons on the LandCruisers & Hiluxes are like throttle controllers, so they actually do not give your car anymore extra power or torque, they just change the calibration of the throttle. We are releasing a video on our Ultimate Diesel Tuning TH-cam channel on throttle controllers next Tuesday at 4pm that you might want to watch!
Saludos desde Chile amigos
Can use tune a 2005 mk triton 2.8turbo diesle
Hi two questions, How frequent to you have to tune or is it a one off and do you have a branch in Victoria or Vic - NSW border area, cheers, Neil.
Hi mate, it's a once off, unless you perform other engine modifications after the tune - then it will need to be retuned in most cases. And yes we have an Ultimate Diesel Tuning performance centre in Dandenong. Please give us a call 1800034373.
Anyone you would recommend for us over the ditch in NZ?
Wasn't shauno running a chip for years and saying how good it is? Lol
Yes that was back in the day DP chip were sponsoring the show
Yes. 😂😂😂
Should I increase the maintaince interval after a custom dyno tune?
How does it affect with the factory warranty?
No, just stick to the manufacturer's specifications. It should not affect warranty, most of the vehicles that we custom dyno tune are still under new car warranty.
I can only find locations in Queensland and Melbourne are there any locations in NSW closer to Bathurst the better.
What if you own a petrol 4x4? I assume it’d be a whole different ball game when tuning the vehicle, what differences would you have to consider when tuning your petrol fourby opposed to diesel?
You'd get way more power but heaps less torque
Ultimate diesel Brisbane wouldn't touch any vehicle with 300km on the odometer and charge alot, took my n70 lux to another tuner in Rocklea and the guys we're awesome went over the whole engine for health before working on it recommended some tweaks over the phone came back to pick it up made double the power that was in it and charged less than half of ultimate diesel 🤙
2011 6.7 Power stroke 533hp 1100 torque
Where around the mid north coast can ya get diesel tuned, from Port Macquarie to newi
We have a tuning agent in Coffs Harbour, Phil! Please give us a call on 1800034373 & ask to speak with Brad.
What about non-modern trucks? How much to turn my 80 series turbski-diesel into a trophie truck?
Nice add
How good!!! That Triton is a little beast!!! A lot more comfortable and easier to daily drive, would also blow the doors off the cruiser
Lighter to so it uses less fuel and goes better in sand can’t go wrong really
Mp300 nav all day 🤙🏽 only coz i own one 🤣 but them tritons are bloody bang for buck if i didnt see this nav i would have bought a new triton there a great ute 👌🏽
That cruiser is the real beast 😂
Which type of tune do yo reccomend for a Hilux 3.0 D4d 240k with 31 and 2 inch lift, just for occactionally towing a few bikes.
A custom dyno tune Federico. Tuned to suit your engine/car, what you use it for & how you would like the tuner to tune it for you - what your goals with it all are!
Got a mate here in the 🇵🇭 that got his Montero Sport/ Pajero Sport remaped thru EcuTek, absolute Rocket to drive from a stock baseline of 162whp/ 334 lb-ft to 221whp/ 455 lb-ft of torque. No Smoke💯
would nice to purchase a kit from PH and such Asian powerhouses, and have it remote tuned on a dyno at your location. Dmax and Hilux are really popular there.
thankyou do you have tuning shops in the uk
No we don't sorry Forrest!
pre dpf 2015 200 series.
Can you tune the ECU and gear box? Want the box to lock after 80.
Thanks.
Sure can mate, have done tonnes of them. Please give us a call on 1800034373 during business hours!
What's the general fuel economy gain/loss for those two vehicles after a tune?
Depending on your driving style, you should notice an improvement in economy with most vehicles.
That was helpful. Thanks Shauno
Ecu shop cube on my dmax goes hard and reliable and a lot of my mates who own dmaxs etc 4jj1 go with a cube.
Yes, they are full tuneable mate, they are good.
I am your biggest fan thank you for inspiring me thank you guys for what you do
I reckon my ML was flogged before I got it. Only had 112,000km on it but had a new clutch put in before I bought it and just had all injectors start leaking and playing up. I wonder if it was flash tuned or had a chip running in it to affect those injectors so early.
Possibly mate.
3.2 LITRE PAJERO 2015 DIESEL, have you any examples of what I can achieve over stock conparison??
Yes, generally at least a 25% gain in power & torque, depending on how we tune it for you. Most make a lot more than that. Visit our website & see the Pajero page, or give us a call during business hours on 1800034373!
what's the name of the first chip please and where can i get one thanks.
How much for do a diesels tunning?
Hey guys.
Does the I drive system come into play here as it is plug and play?
Can it potentially be harmful to the forby.
2010 bt50 150klms.
Cheers Craig.
No, a throttle controller does not give your power any more power or torque. They don't change anything within the engine.
2012 stx 550 navara with bigger intercooler how much gains can i get out of this. 2 3/4 exuast is it worth tunningg as it already has plenty of grunt
Hey mate they make awesome gains in power & torque. But they do vary from car to car. Definitely well worth tuning it - they usually make on average around a 30% increase in torque with just a tune only. Please give us a call 1800034373
Australia has all the cool 4x4s
Can you do anything for rd28 patrols?
Yep, it's called an LS swap.
Ok, so I bought a chip for my Nissan D22 Navara and it's been working fine thus far. Unfortunately, the purchase and installation occurred before viewing this video. Can I, keep the chip installed yet still perform an ECU remap? 😁
It's one or the other mate! A remap is much better though as per this video.
That's the modern fourby's, now what about the old ones - pre chips? 60/80/100 series cruisers, GU/GQ patrols, and stuff. Is the only option a tuner with a good ear & "Gut feeling"?
You an fit an inter cooler body control and get it dynoed the results are impressive
Have UDT done any Jeeps? Grand Cherokee 3L TD for towing.
Also I've read your comments stating it's illegal for a manufacturer to void a warranty due to a remap, can you supply some documentation verifying that please and, surely with Nm increases of over 100% it would appear on face value to be a sound reason for the manufacturer to dump your warranty.
Thanks.
Hey mate, yes we have done heaps of Jeeps. Give us a buzz on 1800034373 so we can answer your questions for you...
Shauno's fave 4:52.....
Is it possible to get a new turbo diesel ute tuned just for better fuel economy without power gains?
You'll always get power gains James, even if we custom dyno tune it to suit economy for you. So not only will you save a fair bit on fuel, you'll also get nice gains throughout the revrange.
Would it be safe & worth dyno tuning a 05 Hilux D4D with 310000kms? If so what would it achieve? The injectors along with a clutch were recently replaced.
Yes absolutely. We tune plenty of rigs with that amount of k's on them & over. They are all custom tuned on our dynos so we can see what the engine is doing.
I have an 05 RA Rodeo with 90,000km. Has Isuzu 3L diesel 4JH1-TC front mount non-commonrail and 4spd auto. Makes 98kw at the flywheel - would be nice not to slow down up hills or in a strong wind! What kind of safe power gains could you guys achieve?
In the same boat I’m looking at euro cars chip soon
Can we tune straight from dealership or run the engine in first for say 5000kms
Straight from the dealership mate! We have dealerships drop brand new vehicles off for us for dyno tuning.
Would it be safer to not tune it???
Guys, were those end results with the chip and a Dyno tune, or just the Dyno tune without the chips?
Dyno tune without the chip. We removed the chip mate!
Good day. There is a video on TH-cam from a different company that did n video on a 79v8 showing ecalerasion and egt, without anything, with chip without custom exhaust , with only custom exhaust, with chip and custom exhaust all tests done towing a caravan. Can you please do this same test with smaller displacement common rail, 2.8-3.0? Dyno and the actual road test with van, no tune or exhaust, tune with no exhaust and the a tune with exhaust. Something that would be in the normal range without other performance mods. You have the friends that tune and build exhaust that will all be able to back-up There claims. Thanks for great contents
How would you tune a Tradie ute NP300 @ 100,000 ks that's used 90% open road travelling and 10% towing a 2.4T van ? 25 return SA-Vic trips this year alone not towing but when tow van it's 4,000 ks round trips.
Our tuners will tune it properly for you mate, to what you use it for. We are not about max power/torque tunes! We are about tailored tunes to suit each car individually & what the owner's goals are with the tune.
Love the show guys. Two things come to mind, sorry haven't read all the comments - may have already been answered. Anyway, 1 - won't a custom tune invalidate your engine warranty? and 2 - during routing servicing when the ecu is usually updated, will the remap software get erased?
I’m curios about the erase of the remap as well?!?!?
1. no it won't, it's illegal for a dealership or manufacturer to void the warranty of a vehicle due to a custom dyno tune/ecu remap. 2. yes it will - however we save & keep everyone's tune files for this reason, they are easily re-loaded into your ECU again without having to go back on the dyno!
@@UltimateDieselTuning can you dyno tune a hino 817 4x4
For more info, Im living in Middle East jordan I have toyota hilux 2021 diesel, during last week im visit racing dimensions to get tune for my truck but before that I went to agent to ask to ask him if I have tune on my truck still there is warranty, he saying Sorry noo
Great advice if I need a tune in the future...
What are the wheels on tgat Holden ute?
1kd 2008 Prado with 275000k on the clock, just been given a clean bill of health by my mechanic with injectors etc in spec, is a tune worthwhile on an older vehicle with this many K's or do I just leave it stock?
Hey mate, absolutely it is. We custom dyno tune plenty of common rails that have a lot more k's on them than yours does! Give us a buzz on 1800034373.
How do you feel about a Unichip on a 4cyl 3L Turbo Diesel out of a Hilux?
Unichips are tuneable/reprogrammable so they are good. They are not a non-tuneable chip!
When should I do the tune. Right at the beginning before all the wanna do and gonna do starts, in the middle after things like exhaust mods and heavy duty suspension or as the very last thing i do after i think i have got it all together and the trip is in sight?
Up to you - but generally, after you have done engine mods. You won't see much gains in power & torque if you perform engine mods without tuning it to finish it off.
Hard to tell if anything has been 'upgraded' just because youve spent big money on changing parts if you havent got a baseline dyno test. My stock standard ute kept up with a $$$$$ upgraded mates ute on the beach, I could hear his heart break when he said, 'you could keed up no worries'.
So if I get a tune, what happens when I take the car to the dealer for service? Do they remap back to standard?
Not generally.
Can uninstalling a uni chip cause problems?
2.8 D4D Manual not able to remap? (At least not in South Africa) only Unichips for this model. Dyno tuned maps
We can remap them over here in Aus. No need for a Unichip or other supplementary ECU to be fitted.
Being that the 1HD-FTE is such a popular engine and people are still putting them into their vehicles nowadays, what is the recommended approach to tuning them? My understanding is that the FTE ECU hasn't been reverse engineered to be reflashed yet and you can only run a chip. Is it likely that the FTE will ever be flashable?
We fit a supplementary ECU to them & then custom dyno tune them properly from there. They make amazing gains in power & torque! There is one on our TH-cam channel if you want to check it out.
Nice info-mercial. You have me interested. Couple of questions, how do you dyno full time 4x4's? What sort of gains can be expected out of an Everest 2ltr bi-turbo? Cheers...
Easy, on a 4wd dyno.
On a 4WD dyno - we have 4WD dynos installed at all of our workshops. Currently, the factory ECUs in the 2litre Everests/Rangers/Raptors are unable to be remapped. We get around this by fitting a supplementary ECU to it, which then gives us full control over the ECU & allows us to custom dyno tune it. Results vary from car to car as we do custom dyno tune every vehicle individually depending on what the car is used for & how the owner would like it tuned. On one of the 2Litre bi turbo engines, expect from a 20% gain in power & torque upwards.
@@UltimateDieselTuning Thanks for the info, I appreciate the reply.
Ultimate Diesel Tuning, what is your experience in regards to new cars voiding warranty? I 2 have a biturbo Everest and every dealer has told me kiss my warranty Goodby. Do you guys provide any guarantee that it won’t effect my warranty??
@@ORD-nairy. take note of the lack of reply.
But how much boost anyone can get a car to make power
Heyy Shauno loved the video, if it’s possible would I be able to safely tune my LN172R hilux? for more low end torque for towing and power.
Lachlan Tilley the filthy N/A 5L. Best way to get power out of them is just slap a turbo on her HD automotive do a mint kit for them.
@@lachlanc5440 arent they 3 liters?
@@DiscoArma3 5l is engine code🙄