TUNE vs. NO TUNE FUEL ECONOMY TEST! Does it make a difference + EXPERT Diesel Tuning Q&A
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 มิ.ย. 2024
- All the myths you’ve heard about engine tuning are about to be busted!
Shauno & Rob from Ultimate Diesel Tuning answer the hottest topics including ‘How to get the most power out of your common rail turbo diesel’ and ‘Do dyno tunes actually save you fuel?’
We also touch on warranty, DPFs, performance on and offroad, towing, you name it, Shauno and Rob aren’t leaving a single question unanswered!
Have a chat with Rob & the team at Ultimate Diesel Tuning to get the best out of your rig! ultimatedieseltuning.com.au/
00:00 Intro
00:31 Does a tune make fuel economy worse?
06:58 Does a tune affect a vehicle's warranty or servicing?
08:27 Should I remove my DPF? (NO!)
09:15 Can you copy/paste the same tune and save money?
10:50 "Just get a chip, they're cheaper".
What other questions do you have? Comment them below, and Shauno and the Ultimate Diesel Tuning team will answer them!
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You should have an independent do the test. The guys selling you the product conducting the tests 😂
@@fostersam0 yet you still watch
Well no shit sherlock
An independent tester would say that removing the dpf, installing a 3inch exhaust and maintaining a high air to fuel ratio in the tune is the best for economy
@@jakesdejager902 removing DPFs is highly illegal, which is why we do not encourage or recommend this.
@@matthutch5919 Sure do, their content is still good.
Who would have thought ...An add for a product tells us the product is fantastic ...Thank you
Love your stuff guys. Keep it coming!.
Wow, fancy asking a Dyno Tuner does tuning improve power and torque and fuel economy.
Of course it does!
I'd like to enter into the brief here.
I have a ZD30 CRC that I had tuned by a completely different company. Out of respect for diesel tune, I shan't say who I selected, but I think I can verify the 24/7 findings.
Why did I opt for a tune.
ZD30's in general run very high EGT's and mine was no exception, put my van behind it and very rarely under 500° exceeding 700° on steeper inclines.
My goal was to lower EGT's.
The company I selected advised the could lower my EGT, and give me a boost in torque.
Note: My selected tuner also installed Tillix & a welded intercooler at same time.
Results:
Abundant improvement in torque, heaps actually.
Holds 4th gear locked on modest inclines now.
The result of the above, improved fuel consumption, yes it's better now than before, categorically, as I record every tank of fuel and work out lts per 100 used.
(Not first cut off, I fill to the top of the fuel filler neck, every fill)
Another plus, far better engine braking, a benefit I was not expecting.
In relation to my Goal, EGT's.
Yes they achieved what they promised.
Sits around 350°-400° towing now, if I push it on inclines, climbs to 600° but not necessary to push it now. Roll off the throttle at 550° and it just keeps lugging along.
The trick with a tune is to not thrash it just cause it goes better, drive with mechanical sympathy in mind, that's the trick.
My tune costs are being slowly paid off in fuel savings, "slowly".
I have no regrets doing it, but my Patrol was out of warranty so contentious argument here doesn't apply.
Bottom line, if you wait to warranty expires, then go ahead, you'll be totally responsible for any resulting drive line damage.
Well why the hell view it differently if in warranty, just accept that if something fails you have to cover the cost as if it was out of warranty, it's not rocket science. Should a dealer cover it, you're laughing, if not, just foot the bill.
I now bow out of the argument.
@@UltimateDieselTuninggetting mighty defensive on your paid for video there budd 😅 calm down
I think the real testing that needs to be done is on forward/rear facing snorkels and a variety of aftermarket air box’s vs standard on both diesel and petrol models and exhausts
I'm not sure how warranties work in AU, but here in South Africa some manufacturers only has to prove that you did something to the vehicle in the area of the issue to completely void the warranty of that component (or even the entire vehicle). This is why dealers recommend you keep off the more involved mods (i.e. engine tune, long range fuel tank, etc.) until after the original manufacturer warranty has expired. Or just buy a low mileage 2nd hand rig with 1 year left on the warranty and mod it after driving it for a while to make sure there's no major issues.
Very good info every body needs
Awesome video as always 4WD 24/7.
Would like to see an intake clean performed on a diesel with 150k on it that has never had one before. Use the 4hr liquid/spray method, check fuel consumption again, then pull down the intakes and visually inspect how well that cleaning method really worked.
They don't clean like when you remove parts. Removing the intake and EGR is always better, do it once, do it right. Don't waste your money on that liquid cleaning crap! Also, don't fall for less fuel consumption after tune, unless your rig have less power after tune. No such thing as FREE power mate.
14L per 100 while towing is better than my suv is empty😂
@harry walker What car is that?
@@madcat4563 ford Territory with 2 inch lift and bigger all terrains
yup lol
@@Jacobtheunwiseso punching the barra all day?
@@Jacobtheunwise 4L petrol vs turbo-diesel is apples to oranges.
When it comes to turbos, intercoolers, etc. Diesels can run lean any day of the week. Petrol engines are stuck at that air/fuel ratio, you won't tune a petrol car and get better mileage towing.
Automatic converter slip is a big factor in fuel economy. Sure these days in modern dual cabs people just want to throw it in D and not think about but it would be interesting to see the same two tests using manual mode to stop it hunting gears the whole time. I suspect the fuel use difference would be much smaller
Yep, towing is a skill that extends well beyond road placement and reversing straight.
I was thinking exactly the same thing. With my MUX I generally tow in manual mode to keep the converter locked as much as possible. This way the transmission does a lot less changes, the trans temps stay lower and the car uses less fuel than using auto mode.
Exactly right 😊
Manual mode in the new Dmax is useless, still changes down. Very disappointed in it compared to 8 year old Colorado.
@@brianscott8559 damn, that’s unfortunate. Hopefully someone in the aftermarket might come up with a solution. MM4x4 make great ‘intelligent’ trans lockup kits which started with Mitsubishi and has grown from there
We have 2019 bt50 and tow a 19ft 6 caravan plus live full-time on the road.
Best thing I did was to have the bt50 turned to suit my needs .
The fuel economy and smoothness of driving and, more importantly, the towing capacity has justified the cost of having it done and have recovered the cost in fuel cost savings.
Perfect explanation! Similar to what the shop said I had my Mu-X tuned! 👍
I’ve had a few tunes done and can confidently say more power requires more fuel.
Not if you're getting a cleaner more efficient burn by not recirculating exhaust gasses
I,ve a MQ TrITON AND nw pAJERO..BOTH TUNED AND BOTH GET BETTER FUEL ECONOMY AFTER THE TUNED. pROVED THIS MANY A TIME AS i KEEP DETAILED FUEL RECORDS OF FUEL USED AT PUMP VS KILOMETERS TRAVELLED. Mates have good tunes and all get better fuel economy.
I disagree with the warranty thing. You tune it, you've lost your motor/turbo warranty. Turbo blows? "increased boost pressure caused premature turbo failure"
Rod comes out to say hi? "due to engine tune outside of factory fuel and boost pressures caused premature engine failure".
That's all they have to prove.
we always tune within the manufacturer's factory safety parameters set within the ECU, never outside.
@@UltimateDieselTuning I suppose in a way, you're correct in saying it won't void the warranty. But, they can refuse to fix it under warranty as soon as the ECU has that re-write data point changing from 0 to 1.
@@wheeman999 that's when we step in for our customer to argue our point. In the tens of thousands of vehicles that we have custom dyno tuned - this has only happened a small handful of times & almost all of those times we have argued our point successfully.
@@UltimateDieselTuning Oh, well, good! Not everyone goes back to the tuner. A lot of the time they just accept the manufacturer being 'correct' and buy a new donk/snail.
I've seen multiple posts on 200 series pages of people with DPF, injector, turbo or "dusting" warranty claims being rejected because of the re-write value having a 1 on it instead of 0.
Fix to that is a piggyback :( Who wants a box to control a box to control the motor? Overcomplicated.
Had a VW tdi common rail. Got it tuned away from the diesel gate tune. Went from 42mpg to 50mpg at 70 mph, had more power too.
I think my car is affected by that… I got a Leon from 2013 with the EA189 engine. Should have the diesel gate correction, right?
Good review....In my opinion a tuned car is more optimised in all aspects than a factory one
I have a 21 DMax had it tuned and yes it has improved but it still uses a a lot more fuel than I thought it would 800km out of 115lt
The manufacturer doesn't have to prove anything, if you modify it, the dealer and/or manufacturer will deny the warranty and you the customer then have to prove the mods didn't break your new car. It will take heaps of time and your car is off the road while you fight it out. Of course the tuner is going to say no warranty problem.....I bet they wont be standing at the service desk fighting on your behalf at the dealership.
I'll bet my balls they wont be standing there
@@hilbert3506 and I would bet mine you are correct LOL
Spot on.
Hi there. We do - in instances like this, we do step in to help the customer & 99% of the time, we are successful with our case.
ACCC says different, Burden of proof if on the person making the claim that the mods caused the issue i.e, the manufacturer. Have personally been through this with Ford and ended up receiving a brand new 3 year newer Ranger out of it.
I’d like to hear more about tuning petrol vehicles
Sure there will be power, torque and efficiency gains….however when they tell you the tune is well over a grand, and another grand + for the service and manifold clean, and another grand + because they require you to have your injectors replaced because the car’s done 18000kms even though there’s no evident problem otherwise they won’t touch it ….all of a sudden the cost benefit analysis becomes a little more complicated. That being said, if I had a spare $4k - $5k sitting around I would absolutely do it 🤔😂 No one said 4WD’ing is a cheap hobby
100% it affects your warranty. Unless UDT are going to offer to replace engine/drive train if things go pear shaped, I'd be very wary. Every manufacturer will wipe their hands of a warranty claim with any tune.
I’m in the USA. I had a 2005 2500hd duramax. I had switch on the fly tunes and my mileage went up about 3 mpg. On my highest tune my power was doubled
How much does it $$$ approximately really enjoy your episodes always very informative 🙏🙏
Very interesting. I wonder if this applies to the earlier models. Because my 02 Prado TD 1KZ has had a DP chip in it for years. Has done 1000s of km towing a 2t caravan with no issues.
What's your question exactly?
@@seantorcello3325 I was wondering if this applies to the earlier models with tuning chips
Highly recommend UDT here, the Melbourne guys did my Isuzu MUX 2018 model, also had a soot clean as well, the improvements in performance and fuel while towing were great, when not towing the extra torque makes a huge difference if you need to get out of the way quickly. Recommeded money spend in my opinion.
Great to hear Gary!
Hi mate I have the same car, and tow about 2.5t with it? what sort of gains did you get? I`m toying with doing the same tune.
@@phillbridgeman3731 Hello Phil. Change was massive, pre tune the Dyno on my vehicle read 94.8Kw and 426.4Nm at the back wheel, guys said this was pretty good standard motor, after soot clean and tune, same dyno made 128Kw and 565.3Nm at back wheel. As for fuel without a tow, nothing to write about really, with my 2500Kg van on the back, before tune averaged around 15-17Lt/100kms, after tune around the 12.5-14 mark, the notice was the lack of down shifting when going up hill or wanting to overtake, did down shift but only one gear depending how much you buried your foot. Remember pointless doing the tune without the soot clean, my MUX had covered 45,000 kms prior to tune at UDT, hope that helps Gary
@@garyboekbinder9169 it does help a lot mate. I appreciate your generosity and time in writing your response. I feel convinced to take on the same tune. Once again thanks
@@phillbridgeman3731 Just t finish, these guys will let you make the decision as they will not push you into the tune, these boys are definitely not the car park quick fix people. Enjoy your tune, You'll love it
You should be using the tiptronic when towing also
I test drove the new D-Max as one of the options for my new car. Great vehicle, but it tended to upchange and down change a lot more than the other vehicles I tested - and that was without a van behind it. Salesman said that was natural for the gearbox.
I have no issue with tuning, or even the channel running a advertisement by another name for an associated company. If I lived in Aus and wanted a tune, I’d likely use these guys. But the question about warranty always comes up when you run a video about tuning. How about including responses from actual vehicle manufacturers to clarify their stance on actually covering warranty cost/work rather than a tuners claims about the technicality of voided warranties.
Hi There
A great test in everyday conditions. One Question on higher mileage engines that was tuned at low ODO kilometers.
What would your opinion be on the longevity of engines and engine components with tuned higher output engines over 200 000+ kilometers?
A simple but perfect example; my neighbour had a professional install of a tune on his 3.2/5-cyl Ranger. Extra torque and power was epic (28%/30%) and he drove it everywhere. Gets rear ended by another SUV and insurance company did their homework and discovered said tune. Outcome?? Void insurance claim. Worse still, the tuning company also closed their books on him stating his 'driving style' most probably caused said accident.
That's because the insurance wasn't notified about the modifications, so they voided the insurance.
You have to tell your insurance company about any modifications you do.
that's ridiculous, if the modification didn't contribute to the accident it can't be blamed. You said he got rear ended, if he was stopped, how did his tune contribute?
WTF !? Why on earth would an insurance company investigate a stationary vehicle rear ended by a dipshit , sounds like a crock to me . A tune is not a modification 🤦♂️
@@jbzero85 I,m calling bullshit.
someone is telling porky pies.
Emissions.... in order to achieve these gains does the retune increase any emissions?
Can we do video on tuning petrol
Should do it or not!
What would it do?
How much power and torque did this car make after the tune
Tyres make a mad difference in fuel consumption… you don’t need 33 all the time. (They look sick, though)
When I drive my ranger with the camper canopy fully loaded I put it in sports mode. Stops the hunting and also saves me a shitload of money on a tune. Was the Isuzu in auto mode and the run in sports after a tune?
Running EGR delete cable on a 4jj1. Apparent you won't need a catch can after. What's your thoughts.
Great video mate 👍 👌
Rated at 3.5 t “ struggling with 2 t 😂 positive is excellent fuel consumption, would have been interesting to know how much weight you could put in tub keeping under gvm
Weight ratings are about safety, not performance. As long as it stops and steers with 3.5t behind, it doesn't matter how sluggish it is.
Destroying your drivetrain isn't a safety issue.
the van was 2.5T, and there are still plenty of owners towing more without issues.
@@bigmikeinoz It certainly does matter how sluggish. Sit on a highway at 80-85kph and you have a good chance of getting a ticket for impeding traffic. Happens in Qld.
@@scotty311 Hell of a lot are illegally over weight as well. It does not matter much as they are self entitled to do as they want....
How often should you get a custom tune? If I got a tune today is there a schedule for the next one or do you just get it done when you notice the drop in performance/fuel economy?
Fucking what?
Just the once. If it drops off in power/torque, then there is a mechanical issue. A tune won't "drop out" unless it's been overwritten by another tuner, or by a dealership.
Is this available for the GWM Connon?
Do you do automatic gearbox tunes as well ?
You said if the tune is wiped the owner can bring it back in and you can restore it. What is the cost for this?
Most of the time, it is free of charge.
I doubt that the warranty thing will fly in my country.
Dealship will point out the tune ASAP and ignore any other signs.
and good luck fighting the dealer, unless you want to play with lawyers.
Can you tune the Dmax gearbox so it will stay locked longer instead of stalling up or changing gears when under load
I hate the trans tune in my 21 Dmax. So much so, I gave it to one of my guys to drive and bought a Hilux instead!! Lots I hated about my Dmax.
Whats the cost of the tune v cost of saving in the fuel, does it out way the saving in fuel over 12 months
what about older diesel vehicles (2011). Would they still benefit from a tune
Yes, absolutely
I know not all vehicles will be the same however, what ball park price will it cost to do a dyno tune? You can use the DMax in this episode as an example.
Around $2k
What??!!!!!! 😮 That negates the fuel savings!
It was $1400 for my 2022 Dmax through these guys
@stormvalestarabs right? If tuning only gets you a 1.1 litre difference every 100k's how many miles do you need to drive to equal the cost?
Always shocks me when I see how much a custom tune is in Australia. A good custom tune from a very reputable company in the UK is the equivalent of about $700
Cheap generic tunes start from about $250
When purchasing an older vehicle, should they be immediately tuned or should it be tested firstly for other problems that occur with aging!
Fix the problems first then tune it.
A reputable place will only tune appropriate to the vehicles condition/capability.
The guys I went thru did a engine compression test before anything else.
How much does a custom tune cost for a 2018 Dmax
is there a way to get more power out of a non turbo diesel, without a rebuild or turbo
Nitrous
It's easy, just ditch the 4 bangers in these utes that are being brought into this country like I did, and buy a 2500 Ram with a 6.7ltr Cummins, it's got more than enough grunt for towing, and it's more stable on the road, job done, but of course those things are not for everyone, but for me it's about buying a fit for purpose vehicle, and it makes life much easier.
how much is a custom tune roughly cost ?? is it worth tuning a later model turbo diesel with high km's ??
If you for example have 2 of the exact same vehicals and there is a 7kw difference, how close to matching kw numbers can you get them?
No car will read the same numbers on the same dyno twice. Dynos are a tuning tool only - they are not really accurate for power/torque figures. The more accurate way to measure power/torque gains from a custom dyno tune is to work out the percentages in gains achieved from the figures before the tune to after.
Is it worth tuning an older vehicle with higher kms on it?
I have a 2011 Navara that’s passed 315,000km. Now it’s recently had new injectors and fuel pump but it has had issues with clogging the dpf and not great fuel consumption.
Would a tune help it at this point in its life or is tuning really a new cars game?
Thanks
At 315,000 it’s risky, you might be fine but more chance the engine won’t like it too. I’d delete the DPF and EGR, that way the engine is breathing easier and flowing out better with no restrictions. A intake manifold clean would be beneficial at those kms too
Yes it sure will especially if you have new injectors fitted to it.
The dealer doesn't have to prove that the tune caused the problem. Once they discover the vehicle has been modified they will tell you, sorry you have voided your warranty, and you will have to then engage solicitors to fight for you.
Could you guys please do a video explaining which gears to use in which situations 1st, 2nd, 3rd etc..., and which gears you need to use when you get stuck and attempt to get the car out, and in which situations just leaving the car in automatic is the right thing to do (if the car has automatic gear boxes)
Thanks
Is it worth tuning a petrol 4wd? For a bit more power
Yes, but unless it's forced induction.. Don't expect better economy.
What different advantages dose a tune have over a throttle controller. Will you notice the diffent between the two.What the answer should you keep your throttle controller or you simple don’t need it any more . And will you notice the difference between the two
You definitely notice the difference! A tune affects fuel flow and boost pressure increasing the output of the engine. A throttle controller does what it says, only affects the sensitivity of your throttle.
Keep the controller after the tune if you want to, but speak to the tuner if they are compatible
I would get both as the tune increases power and the TC helps with throttle sensitivity, especially on older vehicles it modernises the driving experience.
Chalk & cheese Mark. A throttle controller does not give you anymore power or torque or any less turbo lag. A proper custom dyno tune, which is what we do, most definitely will.
In my experience you need to consult tuner. I've seen many with a tune also running throttle controller.
Hence, in relation to my tune, having seen many run tune & throttle controller as well I asked the question, as you are. Many said run both, as you're hearing here.
Consulted my tuner, response "definitely do not fit throttle controller with their tune", hence I haven't.
Mind you, the tune greatly improved turbo boost, so turbo lagg is just about redundant now.
As 24/7 have disclosed here, fuel economy definitely improved for us also.
Another benefit we were not expecting, we have far better engine braking after tune also, a real plus for us.
Hope this helps.
What's going to be the extra strain on driveline components putting out extra torque and horsepower? I.E. reducing the lifespan of the gearbox?
oh duh.. a ford f100 will stand 400 hp.. why fk with jap sht..
Dunno, but that is one of the reasons the warranty shouldn't apply after tuning.
Well if you're tuning within factory parameters and ratios' then you haven't violated any engine expectation.
It all depends on how aggressively you tune, at most maybe upgrade your brakes but in general the rest should handle it. If you look at certain vehicles over the years when they get face lifted and power increases most will have minor upgrades mechanically.
That's the trade-off you go with. Along with more fuel consumption and losing the warranty.
i've got an 09, 76 series with 230000kms on it and I've just bought a small hybrid caravan/camper weighing about 2.8t loaded. Is it safe to tune a higher km engine? does a tune shorten the life expectancy of an engine even if it's new. Cheers.
HI Justin yes it is. It will need a good soot clean as well, plus an upgraded clutch. No it won't shorten the life expectancy of an engine.
Does it make a difference when you take your car in for a tune. Taking it in first day you buy it with a couple of 100km vs driving it first for a couple of 1000km before you tune?
No - we tune cars straight from the dealerships before they are even delivered to their customers!
I had found that when I got my patrol done hyway use was awesome around town was shit
how about the 1.9L vs 3.0L one on same test? some trader just want fuel saving and live with the lack of power
A tune, if done properly, will give you a better economy. The car does not come tuned for economic savings. Will give you more power and save at the same time.
I'd love to know if the tuned Dmax emissions are more than factory. Not here to bust anyones balls but I would assume yes? Eg, say the Dmax is euro 7 rated, it might drop to say euro 5 which might be still within the confines of the regulations here.
from what is said i don’t think that it would be much different as they said they are fixing the air fuel ratios from the factory flash tune
Emissions are better once tuned, from factory they are over fueled
Does a tune still work well even if the car is 10+ years old compared to a newish car
Yes. Just needs to be a common-rail turbo-diesel engine.
I have a pre DPF 200 snorkel bigger air box exhaust should I get a tune done ?
Yep
I dont see myself having a new dmax anytime soon butnif i did id like to know the cost of a tune like the one done in this video as im sure other viewers would to. Just ball park as i know from my mechanic days each make and model is different
You might wanna count that tuning cost into the fuel consumption LMAO
@@herctwenty11 There about 3k for the tune, with the numbers quoted, saving about 300 a year, it takes 10 years to break even.
@herctwenty11 why wouldn't the tune last ? and your getting a lot more then just fuel savings. If you tow you'll find the car drives better, and pulls easier. Had my 200 tuned and now the hilux and they drive the way they should now. also with auto transmission less hunting, less temp = better life of the auto.
@@SwampySi 3K for the tune?!!! Wow, we need to up our prices by over double if that is the case lol!
@@UltimateDieselTuning that was a quote direct from you. You wouldn’t do the tune without the flush also.
@@SwampySi depends on which car you have & the ks it's travelled.
Fuel saving say $250, cost of the tune? Cost benefit?
Not everyone is driving a new car. Would be good to see an older model cruiser or patrol on the dyno, or can they not be tuned?
Do u tune land cruiser 300 series?
shows both receipts at start of video but one has cheaper price which isnt blurred but blurs out litres pumped in haha
first love the videos whats ur opinion on 120 pardos petrol
if you avoid the early ones, as they had head gasket issues and a crappy 4spd auto, they're an awesome vehicle. The later ones are pretty much bulletproof as long as they've been serviced properly.
Can you tune a older hilux 2003 ln167
also, where is the garage that did the tune on this?
Hi James. We have performance dyno centres in Brisbane, Melbourne & on the Gold Coast.
How much would the tune cost?
what's the go when you want to tune a manual ?
Exactly the same! But, depending on which vehicle you have, you may require an upgraded clutch as well.
Can you tune an older vehicle? I have a 2014 Mazda BT50 with highish kms
Yes you can. But at the same time if it's got over 300,000k's on it, it's not recommended. After all, you wouldn' t make your nan run a marathon I'm sure!
What if the 4x4 not overly new and has done over 100thou kms ?
Is fitting a Ultimate 9 or Hike it controller just as good as a custom tune? I tow 2t trailer 5 days week.
No definitely not. One just adjusts throttle sensitivity & the other provides a lot more power & torque & a big reduction in turbo lag/greatly improved engine response. The first one being a throttle controller.
Sounds like a good idea to get my Ranger tuned. I will have to find someone South Australia that does it. Thank, Andrew
@@andrewmitchell5028 no worries mate!
Big tyres look good but heaps more fuel
only if you buy jap sht.. i only run 35.s..
You guys should do a episode about buying th right 4x4 to meet your needs, towing, payloads etc..
Haha!
yes,,thats why a drive a ford 01 , 4.2 tdi s.duty..14 lt 100.. no computer... 700nm.. buy drive..tows 5y no worries.. you guys are brainwashed into jap sht..
auto expert does videos like that if you can deal with his personality
Exactly, Why go buy a 3 litre 4 pot too tow 3 tonnes then complain about lack of power?
@@jamezxhare you suggesting spending 20k more to get a V6 anal ranger or a VW bag of bolts?
Could you please post something from a manufacturer saying the tune will not affect warranty?
Give the consumer law a call Shane (ACCC). Or the Australian Aftermarket Automotive Association.
@@UltimateDieselTuning so no then?
Like I said, they say no to a warranty claim and you have a battle on your hands. Taking them to court etc, to maybe win, all the while the car is not repaired.
They say the extra power from the tune is what destroyed the engine / driveline components / turbo etc. how can you prove it didn’t?
Might not have technically voided the warranty but you’ll be fighting the dealer tooth and nail in court as they’ll flat out deny you anything motor / driveline if they find a custom map on the ECU.
Not to mention if it’s not disclosed to your insurer they may void a claim as it’s changed the vehicle performance.
Was the fuel price the same the first and second time
Yes, same service station.
I have a hilux and thinking of getting a PPD performance exhaust and front mount intercooler would they tune my 4by or not from those mods
if its diesel, just cut the system before the back diff, small mufler. or non,, bigger the intercooler, the better.. engine buy coolers are bs.. bigger air intake, bigger,or no exhaust.. diesels need to breath..
You can tune for every mod you have installed. It's just probably not worth it.
Of course a tuner would tune it. They want your $$
If it's a common rail one (N70/80) then yes for sure. You won't notice much of a difference by fitting those parts without getting it tuned properly to suit.
Is it good to do egr delete on newer dieser ute nowadays?can anyone shared with me?teach me please..thank you in advance
Illegal = no insurance and fine
@@richardwalsh5570 dpf i get it you will be fine by authority...egr as well?boiii oo boii...
i've got a Nissan patrol upgraded. My intercooler and exhaust 5k and couldn't afford the tune. They wanted 2k to get it on the dino. Is this a reasonable price?
If it's just a tune only, that's a bit steep. If it includes like a turbo actuator etc. for more precise boost control, then that is about right.
not sure what a table actuator is. I love the look it up.. yeah it was just the tune. They wanted 1000 books to put in the gauges to do another few things. It would've worked out to be about nine grand all up for everything just way to Steep for me.. I am close to Sydney which a bit is a bit of a minefield, although Berrima diesel is close but they charge like wounded bulls too..
hey mate , I'm sorry Siri doesn't like my accent there's a few typos in there LOL cause I'm at pom.. lol
What is rarely mentioned in the "custom tuning videos" is the cost. Yes this may also vary, but I would hazard to say, for a quality tune you may be looking at $1000 🤷♂ Savings quoted 143L per year of driving the average 13000km, it may take you 5 years to realize the the money you have spent on the tune. In my humble opinion, the best purpose for a tune is for those that have mechanical sympathy for their transmission and running gear. Not the cost savings....no-one buys a 4WD and/or a caravan/boat to save money 💸💸💸
That's what I always say, more power means it take less effort for for the same effect, thus better economy. Thanks for proof I can send to nah sayers.
Alternate Universe - Shawn on PAVEMENT ?!?!
Does an engine tune put extra stress on an engine with higher ks (4jj2 with 170ks )
yes..
Not necessarily if the tune is done properly, it will help it breathe and use less fuel. Obviously, a worn motor will never give you huge power. But if your after economical tune will help.
Yes, unless you tune it for less power.
Yes. More power = more stress. Power is simply a factor torque x rpm. To get more power you need more rpm (stress) or more torque. To get more torque you need greater forces pushing down on the piston (stress). There is no free lunch regards more torque/power vs engine stress.
@D W ..Yes realise there's more stress on the engine and drive train..what I was I getting at does an engine tune cause damage to a vechical with higher ks?..
Would love to see the same test done. With the 2023 LDV T60 MAX PRO twin turbo and see how that goes.
Would it make the 180km trip though .
It wouldn’t go well it would break before leaving the servo
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 took the words right of my mouth
Can you tune 2004 disco td5?
Td5Zilla 👌
No, sorry Steve
I don't see why they can't, my local tuning/dyno workshops in sunny coast all said that they can do it no worries. Then there's all the tuning places in the UK who dyno tune the td5's 👌
Now take the dpf out and test it again.
What happens when you take your car for a service and they reset to factory?
I don't think they are allowed to perform any service without consent from the customer
Did you even watch the video the answer was pretty clear to you question.
Tuner guy said they store the tune on file
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why would you take it for a service,,you ndont know what a spanner is.??.. warrenty is worth squat..
guys can you help me tith my old xtrail what you do sounds amazing and where i am ffrom we do not have this sort of thing
What about diesel pumps 3 litres
Are these tuned vehicles tested to ensure they still meet emmission standards?
No 😂