I think Mark Zuckerberg said it best in a Facebook comment section some years back. He posted something on his facebook page, and a female commenter said "I wish my daughter gets married to someone as smart and rich as you in the future"... Mark actually replied her and said "Don't wish for your daughter to marry someone rich and smart, wish for your daughter to become rich and smart, and she should then end up with someone like her".
@SweetChocolateCocoyamPudding hahaha yeah but some/most of yall hit the guy,do bbl , wear "banging" dresses and all of that. Let me guess,it's for animals to be staring lol. I love the way yall deceive yourselves. Then they fucking blush when hundreds of simps give compliments to that 🤡
It still hurts me seeing a woman told to sit at home and then her husband dies untimely. She is then left to figure out life with young children. The same society would not come to their aid to bare the constant bills.
I love the way you dissect and analyze issues. Good sense of reasoning. I have known you from “Borokini” and rare edge movies and I am a fan. Weldone Oreofe❤
A bit rough on mummy 😃 but I love your take on even if it's your sister who came staying with you & not contributing.....I hope a lot of women get that mindset - being valuable
It's honestly ridiculous. Men will rape, start wars, hurt people because of their fragile ego, commit domestic violence, then I will be hearing rubbish of 'women are emotional and men are logic' rubbish!!
I dislike how involved with themselves most of their arguments are. I wish they could view the matters at hand objectively, anecdotes are okay but one has to understand that they are not the absolute standard. They are however very civil which is great.
How much more objective do you want them to get? They are women? They have firsthand experience nobody can tell tell you about the experience of being a woman better than a woman.
How much more objective do you want them to get? They are women? They have firsthand experience nobody can tell tell you about the experience of being a woman better than a woman.
The problem of making more money than your husband and "forgetting your husband" is a major YOU problem. It's a problem of your attitude and orientation towards money, personality and personal mindset more than it is a generalized attitude of women towards money.
Attitude towards anything, money in this context isn't gender-based. There are a lot of men with bad characters because they have money. It takes discipline from both genders to act right. The form of discipline is different in both scenarios. Discipline on the women's end be humble, and emotionally stability on the man's end too. & Vice versa Now men who treat their partners badly when they have money are more likely to feel threatened when opportunities that surfaces for their partner to earn more, because they fear being treated the way they threaten others when they are in power.
Oreofe has a point about marriage being a partnership but the thing is that how many men agree that marriage is a partnership? A lot of men these days would rather convulse than agree that theyre equal with their wives so where does this stand? Men need to first agree that they are in partnership with their wives, give their wives freedom to fly and also, be open. It is that simple.
Marriage being a partnership doesn't mean both parties should be equal. Partnerships in business is not always 50-50, take note. Know your strength and your weaknesses. Put these together and you'll have a good home. There's no manual to these things, unfortunately. A lot of decisions you'll make in marriage will be influenced by the partner you end up with. The goal shouldn't be to be equal with your partner, it should be to grow together
This is so exciting. Seeing women have conversations like this just makes me happy. I don't know how you guys pick people for this,but I will love to have conversations on this topic. Cassandra ate though 😍
I feel like what the mama was trying to talk about is a woman that is so career focused that she puts chasing caterer before home making, but she used making more money statement which caused the trigger
A lot of these older women are raised to be male identified and they raise their daughters to follow. Everything in their life must revolve around men or children. Educated women know this is wrong but there’s generations of toxicity that needs to be undone
We should have grace for these women they were raised in a world that didn’t accomodate the privileges we now have today, I’m sure the next generation to come will also improve upon where we lacked. Such is life, we adapt and improve.
@@jessicadembo5753yh, you're right. They would not have thought this way or even raise their children this way if they were not those this way as well
This episode just triggered a business idea I can start in addition to my job. So it’s a job well done to the producers and everyone involved in the making of this episode
I like this video. It shows that women don't think the same The women that thinks you should be submissive to her husband thinks completely different to the women that knows they shouldnt bow down to a man
Saying that when men get older they look younger than the woman cause the woman has been overused AND also saying that men get down with sicknesses at their mid lives because of financial burden are infact contradictory statements. Especially when both statements were agreed to by the majority. Also, objectively, the 'my money is my money and his money is our money' thingy varies greatly according to the values, settings and perceptions of the couples involved. A man who values a traditional setting in his house definitely has no business asking the wife to support him. Finances are the only responsibility he has(Noone cares that the capitalist system of today can no longer contain such traditional arrangement as he chose it himself) and it would be absolutely unfair to require his wife to contribute anything to the household.
Also I'll add that the line between emotions and logic are blurry...if there are any lines at all. What we call 'logic' are infact neurological and sensory patterns that we evolved and retained from the days of our hunter-gatherer ancestors. Basically, their survival algorithm. There is also no scientific and even socially documented research that indicates any kind of variation in the 'sensory dna algorithm' based on sexes. Emotions are much more faster and reflexive 'Logic'. For example, take this 'logical' scenario: So when Mr. A wanted to choose a partner, he decided to be much more logical. He wrote down a short list of what he 'needs' from a spouse. Beauty - for the sake of his children looks Brains- Ditto Culinary skills- for his stomach's sake Up and down- for shaboinking ease That apparently is logical. The emotional 'opposite' would still be Mr. A. not having written anything down and just falling in love with a woman who embodies these traits. What informed those choices? Well, our ancestors bore the brunt and harshness of natural selection the most. The only ones whoose DNA survived to this generation were those who made certain choices. Or did not. The choice of a partner included. The 'love' and 'lust' emotions are 'logically' informed by our hunter-gatherers ancestors DNA. And our logic also the same. Sorry I failed summary in high school😂 Enjoyed the show as always tho
Brilliant discussion. It's quite funny though that when you are privileged "because you are a woman", it's termed feminine power even though it's just something that stems from the place of men's attraction to women. But, when women are refused certain opportunities "because you are a woman", it is then called gender discrimination.
@@TheChibuogwu Absolutely! And makes me wonder what their defense will be when hit with this truth. Thanks for the disclaimer. I wouldn't have guessed so😅. I'm a woman as well.
@@Bxtsy_d1st Exactly! At least, ot shouldn't be encouraged. One woman somewhere is saying, "don't call me a female doctor. I'm just a doctor, my gender has nothing to do with it" while another woman is adding "female farmer" to hers because of the advantages it will give her above her male counterparts. It's giving confusion and selective patriarchy.
Just want to say that the colorful background that represents the stances of each women on every topic is so beautiful and creative. Keep up the good work
My main issue with most of the arguments here is that they all conflate their personal experiences with facts or history. I expected proven facts and figures than just "To me o" Also, many of us need to do more reading about what it means to be a woman in the 21st century. Please read more before you open your mouth. Also, that babe on lowcut had different views that opposed each other on the grand scheme of things. Stand on business if you want to.
I love the quote from Oreofe about being financially free and working even as awoman, the last quote when you gave an example of someone visiting your house, I love the quote from you ma, it's like a direct message to all women out there, tnks for that, God bless you..❤
Yea, I did noticed that, she's a bit intolerant to other people's opinions wch makes her sound kinda rude, I understand that she wants to strike her point, she's really intelligent, I love her points..
Whilst I don't totally agree with what some of the ladies said, every single one of them, and I mean all of them, has said something today that has inspired me. Thank you CRUISE for constantly having conversations like this.
I love Miss Cassandra's points, the woman on her right too, they are really good, I enjoyed them, Miss Cassandra is really blunt and I like that but I see that she really takes the conversation very personal kind of so it made it aound loke she was kinda harsh, but I really do love and enjoyed the conversation..she is on point, all of them are on point, the first woman's point seriously got me laughing at that first prompt😂😂 That's a typical African woman there..
Women can make as much money as they want however most women want a man near their financial level or more- that means the richer they become, the richer a man must be for her to be interested… that leaves her with a small number of men to be compatible with.
Good. Most men don’t marry poor women either. If they marry from liwer social status, these women are very educated. Fiction has convinced people that rich people often marry low and middle class people. It is an EXCEPTION. The rule is that the rich marry amongst themselves
@@liannababy4030 poor is a reach, yes if he’s wealthy he’s not picking a homeless woman from the street… but I’m not talking about someone destitute- I’m talking about a man not caring about what a woman can provide for him financially.
Its a debate y'all, stop with the hate. For the love of Christ! Some people in the comment section obviously are handing the show with maturity, giving logical ans constructive criticism, while some otbers are just being emotional about the whole thing. Even if youre not enjoying the show, dont come and start ranting on how you hate the ladies. Please, lets be civil while making comments
What a lovely conversation. It has the potential to break generational curses. I really appreciated Cassandra’s voice and groundedness when positioning her perspective. As human, we want to do the natural thing of seeing the world through our own lens. But if only some of us are free, none of us are free and we exist in systems. It’s important to take a wider view so you know how to win the game . Listen more than you speak ❤
Oreofe is disconnected from reality. She is sooooooooooo disconnected from reality. That is why Cassandra keeps interrupting her. Cassandra has a more balanced nuance on this topic because she is directly involved with other women outside her sphere. Oreofe needs to step out of her bubble occassionally.
Jeez!!! I really love you for this understanding. Like you saw this!!! She dismisses other pples truths just bcos she doesn’t experience it. Cassandra connects more with the AVERAGE WOMAN’s reality.
So i do believe that there is something called feminine power but it does not however come from a place of being naturally loved. Firstly, women are most likely favored because of how they look, the one's who are not so beautiful don't get anything like pretty privilege whatsoever(basically objectification). Secondly, some of the ladies said something about "because she's a woman, let's be soft on her " or something, that's basically viewing women as weak and not being placed on the same pedestal as men. I also believe that the working spheres are still more dominated by men, it's one of the reasons why we never had a female president in Nigeria, they are majorly looked down upon, so yes men are still more privileged, it is not as rampant as it was but It definitely still exists . Not related but many women who have made their way to the top are also mostly accused of sleeping their way there. Lastly, majority of these women speak from a personal point of view and not from the point of view of an average woman living in Nigeria, because you did or did not experience such does not mean others didn't or it doesn't exist.
No, that is not what i meant.. I will not be saying women and men are of the same strength, physically... Most men are stronger(most, not all) ... All I'm saying is that them being softer on women is not because of being naturally loved or whatnot, it's just that you're perceived as the weaker vessel. NB:not all men are stronger than women.
then I think therefore it should be stripped of the title because the power is not in our hand and its not real call it what it is its internalized misogyny and patriarchy
@@rebeccaobakpolor952 that's where I'm driving at.... Feminine power is just a sugar coated name in my opinion, at least from the way the ladies were describing it
One thing that some feminist don't know is that no matter how much you think you can fight, if the men don't support or put up the fight with you, you won't be very successful
I think it is strange to say the earning power of the AVERAGE woman in Africa is not limited. To do this is to ignore things like the wage gap; almost all industries are male dominated including the catering industry (google). Why is that? It is to ignore the poor education of the girl child. It is to ignore the constant rise of femicide which among other things, LIMITS women from going to certain places for job interviews. Ignoring the silly maternity leave policies of so many companies in Africa and the world at large. It is to ignore the fact that the work of raising children rests primarily on the woman in Africa. It is to ignore period poverty. All these, among many other factors no matter how little you consider them, LIMIT the earning power of the AVERAGE African woman.
I never comment on TH-cam because I am quite shy, but I just have to say this: Please, I am absolutely in love with Cassandra. In fact, I became convinced and went like, "Ah, this girl is too smart" when she explained her perspective on the "Women are not emotionally stable enough to handle some leadership positions" question.
@@rebeccaobakpolor952 There is a certain level of depravity that is not supposed to be platformed or even argued about because the tiny percent of the population that will misunderstand are too great. We don't need topics like Jews vs Nazis or kids vs pedos.
@@rebeccaobakpolor952 No. I believe this particular topic was necessary. I don't want them to become like Jubilee and bring people that bastardise the beliefs of the average Nigerian
I’m actually a big fan of women earning and being able to do stuffs on their own but I think what the older woman is trying to say is …women aren’t really good with powers …a woman that earns more has more power in the relationship or marriage It all comes down to what type of woman you wanna be …for your kids and for your husband I mean we all have our core values ..and somehow women with powers tend to forget that easily
The moral of the story marry a husband with the right mentality. A man with drive and a man you are sure will strive to do well and you will both support each other. This argument come to place in a situation where there is a somewhat equal opportunity for progression available to both and that both can not purse it without the children suffering from lack of attention, the woman should let the man to pursue the opportunity.
honestly, about the earning power, and feminine power thing, it is still catering to someone who holds significant power over you- A MAN. Even with all the added advantages, how many women are actually at the top? so las las, you don't have more earning power than him cos you are catering to him- A MAN who is in power. and someone who has the power to feed you can starve you, so the day you don't fit the whims or gratify their fantasies, God help you! lmap. if it was so much about feminine power, we would have had lots of women at the top, even by mere sleeping with who is at the top. so las las, they give you breadcrumbs, just enough to keep you thinking that you have power, but they are winning more. That's why very successful women are sometimes termed masculine because to be successful to that level, you have to embody some of the characteristics normally attributed to men. Sure feminine power has its own advantages, however, when it comes to the real world, and getting to the top as a woman, you're gonna need to be qualified and graced with tenacity and a strong mind and heavenly backing, cos the other gender sometimes dey get fragile ego. so called "feminine energy" alone, ain't gonna get you there boo.
Wish you could add diversity all of these women are Yoruba and they lean towards a patriarchal mindset if you added other ethic groups it would be different
I dont know if I'll change my kind in the future but I'm not for my money is my money your money is our money, marriage is a partnership and you guys should be able to plan as partners and find a balance. Inless he earns way more and you guys agree to let him spend. Marriage is planning, every step of the way
Cassandra needs to understand that women are yet to dominate in the tech space simply put because of interests and not because men simply dominate in such sectors. Even in engineering today, we still hope to convince more women to join but all in all, it depends on interest.
Thank you ma. How many women do you see in construction, engineering, surveying? Let’s be true to ourselves. Similarly, how many male nurses do we see?
35:58 I don’t think religion is a weapon of slavery, rather a weapon of enlightenment. Most people read the Bible without the guidance of the Holy Spirit, that’s why they can conveniently coin one part of the Bible to back up their bias opinions… for wherever it is written for a woman to serve a man, you’d see where a man is to give equal value. So yes, I agree that leadership isn’t gender based, you’re either a good leader or you’re not.
Men should ‘love’ their wives but women should ’serve’ their husbands? How is that equal? Read 1 Cor 14:34-35. This doesn’t mean that religion doesn’t have advantages too.
@@sylviaowuala6343 I don’t know what love means to you and what equal value means to you but I believe when you study in depth verses on love, marriage, wife, husbands and children as a whole with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, you’d understand what I mean by equal VALUE. It takes one to love in order to willingly serve and if you know why he has to love you, you would agree (or maybe not) that “serving” is the least you can do. I can share some verses , if you’re open to it.
@@sylviaowuala6343 Ephesians 5:21 literally says “submit to one another out of reverence for Christ”. You’ve just proved the original commentator right about picking and choosing Bible verses to back up bias.
4:38 this first point eh. My mom and I are looking for money so that my father can retire in peace. And a working mother isn't the cause for wayward children, a rich mother is definitely not. I know people that would have led different lives if their moms were rich, this particular girl was introduced to prostitution as a teenager and she gave her mother money to add things to her shop🙆🏾♀️🙆🏾♀️🙆🏾♀️ she even took it sef and the mother of the girl who introduced her was complaining that she's never received anything from her daughter 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️. Rich women are not anybody's problem abeg. All my life, I've wished my mom was the loaded one, anytime this woman has money, everybody dey feel am, including my dad. She's very free handed, I'm working but she'll give me money to make hair even if I just squandered my salary. My life would have been so sweet if my mom made more
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥. That older woman is just desperate to make her point. A woman who is determined to out earn her spouse doesn't have a husband, she has a competitor. This seems to be more of a problem for men. Why is it not seen as a problem that they treat their partners as rivals?
I disagree with that first woman o, my mum makes more money than my dad but we still connect with her a 100 times more than with my dad, unless a woman doesn’t want to have time for her children, money is never a barrier.
Everyone should do what they want, we have free will to do so. The problem is people secretly care what others think. Do what you want, be yourself. Just be aware of the consequences of your actions. If you want to: commit a crime and go to jail; marry and have a family; have pre-marital sex and stand the risk of getting a kid or escape by aborting (and go to jail if it's illegal in your country); get a job and earn money; sleep around and get STDs; read books and gain knowledge; up skill yourself and earn more money. The problem starts when you force your opinions on people you DO NOT feed NOR govern.
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I think Mark Zuckerberg said it best in a Facebook comment section some years back.
He posted something on his facebook page, and a female commenter said "I wish my daughter gets married to someone as smart and rich as you in the future"... Mark actually replied her and said "Don't wish for your daughter to marry someone rich and smart, wish for your daughter to become rich and smart, and she should then end up with someone like her".
Who told Mark she doesn't want to be smart and rich?
I agree however I think people pray to marry rich as it’s easier than an intelligent rich woman finding true love unfortunately the game is rigged
@@BoujieTeemarrying rich is obviously easier than doing the work yourself, but easier doesn’t mean better.
"my existence is not for the consumption of the male gaze" YES
if that's the case, then what's your existence for?
@@OPkrypto for me and whatever I choose it to be.
@@OPkrypto Here comes the man
@@OPkrypto for herself abeg
@SweetChocolateCocoyamPudding hahaha yeah but some/most of yall hit the guy,do bbl , wear "banging" dresses and all of that. Let me guess,it's for animals to be staring lol. I love the way yall deceive yourselves. Then they fucking blush when hundreds of simps give compliments to that 🤡
It still hurts me seeing a woman told to sit at home and then her husband dies untimely. She is then left to figure out life with young children. The same society would not come to their aid to bare the constant bills.
Everything you said here!
This LITERALLY what happened to someone very close to me. I’m not sure how she did it. It’s so sad. They’re superhero’s
this happened to my grandma now my mother is a very big advocate of having ur own money
That's how the story always goes
I had so much fun talking on this one and connecting with great women. Thank you so much for having me.
I must say that I loved the way you articulated yourself and spoke. Such a true gem. And btw, you look stunning
You are so smart , I love the way you think and the fact that you are realistic. I like how you shut it down.
I love the way you dissect and analyze issues. Good sense of reasoning. I have known you from “Borokini” and rare edge movies and I am a fan. Weldone Oreofe❤
Great work👏
A bit rough on mummy 😃 but I love your take on even if it's your sister who came staying with you & not contributing.....I hope a lot of women get that mindset - being valuable
Men are logical..... lol, who are causing the wars today?
Wars start because corrupt leaders want to maximize profit, not because they aren’t logical
If women were better leaders they have had all the time through civilization to prove that, but yet men are still world leaders.
For real
Men are very emotional the murder and rape statistics prove this
It's honestly ridiculous. Men will rape, start wars, hurt people because of their fragile ego, commit domestic violence, then I will be hearing rubbish of 'women are emotional and men are logic' rubbish!!
I dislike how involved with themselves most of their arguments are. I wish they could view the matters at hand objectively, anecdotes are okay but one has to understand that they are not the absolute standard. They are however very civil which is great.
In Nigeria objectivity makes you guilty. 😂
True. I wish the conversation had been more objective.
Honestly, especially that Oreofe lady.
How much more objective do you want them to get? They are women? They have firsthand experience nobody can tell tell you about the experience of being a woman better than a woman.
How much more objective do you want them to get? They are women? They have firsthand experience nobody can tell tell you about the experience of being a woman better than a woman.
I don’t mind my wife earning 5x more than me, as long as she doesn’t use it to insult me. Well, she is not that kind of person.
This is true
Excuse me, you dropped this 👑
Exactly.It's more of the attitude not the money.
33:06 Uh oh Cassandra. You don miss road o!lol i'd like to everything you said until this point
Had fun speaking on this one. Thank you for having me ❤️✨
Aww, just finished watching the video. I love the way you speak
You were very intelligent. I especially agreed with your takes about "feminine power"
You were awesome!
You're intelligent and I love that you're firm and unwavering in your opinions. All the best. 🎉
YOU LITERALLY HELPED ME SAY THE THINGS I WISHED THEY WERE TOLD
The problem of making more money than your husband and "forgetting your husband" is a major YOU problem. It's a problem of your attitude and orientation towards money, personality and personal mindset more than it is a generalized attitude of women towards money.
But if it’s vice versa it won’t affect the man’s behavior??but only women… that’s so funny
As innnn… till today many men make it financially and disregard their wives, yet nobody said bcos of that men shouldn’t earn more.
Attitude towards anything, money in this context isn't gender-based.
There are a lot of men with bad characters because they have money.
It takes discipline from both genders to act right.
The form of discipline is different in both scenarios.
Discipline on the women's end be humble, and emotionally stability on the man's end too. & Vice versa
Now men who treat their partners badly when they have money are more likely to feel threatened when opportunities that surfaces for their partner to earn more, because they fear being treated the way they threaten others when they are in power.
Loud am my sister
@@sylviaowuala6343even men whose wives supported and helped them from the humble beginning have done this
Just because you are articulate about your thoughts doesn't mean the other party is wrong, please!
@@Iamnotxasin 100%
@@andrewiyanya447exactly..
Fact
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😂 exactly!
Oreofe has a point about marriage being a partnership but the thing is that how many men agree that marriage is a partnership? A lot of men these days would rather convulse than agree that theyre equal with their wives so where does this stand? Men need to first agree that they are in partnership with their wives, give their wives freedom to fly and also, be open. It is that simple.
Men do not need to give anything. Women shouldn’t wait to be given anything, the world is for the taking.
why should a wife's freedom be determined by her husband? Any woman out in a situation where her husband restricts her, she should leave
Your average Nigerian man needs a woman to be beneath him and not match up to his level because his ego won't tolerate that
I was about to reason with you but then I checked your name and you’re Igbo. Seems like a thing in Igbo tradition from what I’ve seen and heard.
Marriage being a partnership doesn't mean both parties should be equal. Partnerships in business is not always 50-50, take note.
Know your strength and your weaknesses. Put these together and you'll have a good home.
There's no manual to these things, unfortunately.
A lot of decisions you'll make in marriage will be influenced by the partner you end up with.
The goal shouldn't be to be equal with your partner, it should be to grow together
This is so exciting.
Seeing women have conversations like this just makes me happy.
I don't know how you guys pick people for this,but I will love to have conversations on this topic.
Cassandra ate though 😍
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Thank you for having me Cruise, had so much fun filming this💜
Please which state does cruise happen? I want to register for it
Well done Feyikemi, enjoyed listening to your arguments and you were really realistic !
@@MeetMoyele Thank you 😊❤❤
Cassandra is so smart!
Lmao nr b only
veryyy
She’s so stupid
@@ukuowheogaga136Urhobo man wey no like work, no go find work werey
@@roselineabiaediete9307 lmao Nr b only naso una take dey spoil so take am play first
I feel like what the mama was trying to talk about is a woman that is so career focused that she puts chasing caterer before home making, but she used making more money statement which caused the trigger
A lot of these older women are raised to be male identified and they raise their daughters to follow. Everything in their life must revolve around men or children. Educated women know this is wrong but there’s generations of toxicity that needs to be undone
We should have grace for these women they were raised in a world that didn’t accomodate the privileges we now have today, I’m sure the next generation to come will also improve upon where we lacked. Such is life, we adapt and improve.
@@jessicadembo5753 thats fair
@@jessicadembo5753yh, you're right.
They would not have thought this way or even raise their children this way if they were not those this way as well
I like how Cassandra explains herself...wisdom.
This episode just triggered a business idea I can start in addition to my job. So it’s a job well done to the producers and everyone involved in the making of this episode
I like this video. It shows that women don't think the same
The women that thinks you should be submissive to her husband thinks completely different to the women that knows they shouldnt bow down to a man
OBVIOUSLY
Cassandra is smart.
Very smart.. I like how she put her point out
Really smart!
But it shouldn't come across as trying to force your opinions on others
They should listen to her and Oreofe though
She's right but her denying feminine power which is a female privilege is wrong
Saying that when men get older they look younger than the woman cause the woman has been overused AND also saying that men get down with sicknesses at their mid lives because of financial burden are infact contradictory statements. Especially when both statements were agreed to by the majority.
Also, objectively, the 'my money is my money and his money is our money' thingy varies greatly according to the values, settings and perceptions of the couples involved.
A man who values a traditional setting in his house definitely has no business asking the wife to support him. Finances are the only responsibility he has(Noone cares that the capitalist system of today can no longer contain such traditional arrangement as he chose it himself) and it would be absolutely unfair to require his wife to contribute anything to the household.
Also I'll add that the line between emotions and logic are blurry...if there are any lines at all.
What we call 'logic' are infact neurological and sensory patterns that we evolved and retained from the days of our hunter-gatherer ancestors.
Basically, their survival algorithm.
There is also no scientific and even socially documented research that indicates any kind of variation in the 'sensory dna algorithm' based on sexes.
Emotions are much more faster and reflexive 'Logic'.
For example, take this 'logical' scenario:
So when Mr. A wanted to choose a partner, he decided to be much more logical.
He wrote down a short list of what he 'needs' from a spouse.
Beauty - for the sake of his children looks
Brains- Ditto
Culinary skills- for his stomach's sake
Up and down- for shaboinking ease
That apparently is logical.
The emotional 'opposite' would still be Mr. A. not having written anything down and just falling in love with a woman who embodies these traits.
What informed those choices?
Well, our ancestors bore the brunt and harshness of natural selection the most. The only ones whoose DNA survived to this generation were those who made certain choices. Or did not.
The choice of a partner included.
The 'love' and 'lust' emotions are 'logically' informed by our hunter-gatherers ancestors DNA. And our logic also the same.
Sorry I failed summary in high school😂
Enjoyed the show as always tho
Im not going to lie, if i see that yellow dress woman as my mother in law, im running, in fact sprinting
😭😭😭😭😭
I just know Cassandra is a Twitter babe! 😭😂❤️
Love her!
"This is actually me in my calmest state.😊" lmao. Gosh, I love her.
Your bank account is your throne, your money is your power. Liberating. 100%!
Oreofe is who she thinks she is a beg!!! love her
Brilliant discussion.
It's quite funny though that when you are privileged "because you are a woman", it's termed feminine power even though it's just something that stems from the place of men's attraction to women.
But, when women are refused certain opportunities "because you are a woman", it is then called gender discrimination.
You see that too huh? It is so ridiculous 😂😂. I am a woman, by the way.
@@TheChibuogwu Absolutely! And makes me wonder what their defense will be when hit with this truth.
Thanks for the disclaimer. I wouldn't have guessed so😅. I'm a woman as well.
So them what is the solution??
Do not give me or take away from me opportunities because of my gender, let me have them because of my qualifications
@@Bxtsy_d1st Exactly! At least, ot shouldn't be encouraged.
One woman somewhere is saying, "don't call me a female doctor. I'm just a doctor, my gender has nothing to do with it" while another woman is adding "female farmer" to hers because of the advantages it will give her above her male counterparts.
It's giving confusion and selective patriarchy.
I mean is it not!?
Why would you refuse them opportunities because of gender.
Just want to say that the colorful background that represents the stances of each women on every topic is so beautiful and creative. Keep up the good work
First time watching an episode as it lands … proud cruiser 🎉❤
Proud Cruiser!!!! 🤗.
No lies detected here!😫
I dey comments 1hr😂😂
My main issue with most of the arguments here is that they all conflate their personal experiences with facts or history. I expected proven facts and figures than just "To me o" Also, many of us need to do more reading about what it means to be a woman in the 21st century. Please read more before you open your mouth. Also, that babe on lowcut had different views that opposed each other on the grand scheme of things. Stand on business if you want to.
I love the quote from Oreofe about being financially free and working even as awoman, the last quote when you gave an example of someone visiting your house, I love the quote from you ma, it's like a direct message to all women out there, tnks for that, God bless you..❤
Cassandra is smart but intolerant of differing opinions and as a result, dismissive.
Yea, I did noticed that, she's a bit intolerant to other people's opinions wch makes her sound kinda rude, I understand that she wants to strike her point, she's really intelligent, I love her points..
yes,
Your point sums it up❤❤❤❤
Whilst I don't totally agree with what some of the ladies said, every single one of them, and I mean all of them, has said something today that has inspired me. Thank you CRUISE for constantly having conversations like this.
Oreofe is so enlightened and enlightening bruh
Cassandra is so on point. A queen
Dang!! this was very beautiful to watch. I admire the decorum among the ladies!!! Cruise! another banger!!!
I love Miss Cassandra's points, the woman on her right too, they are really good, I enjoyed them, Miss Cassandra is really blunt and I like that but I see that she really takes the conversation very personal kind of so it made it aound loke she was kinda harsh, but I really do love and enjoyed the conversation..she is on point, all of them are on point, the first woman's point seriously got me laughing at that first prompt😂😂 That's a typical African woman there..
Women can make as much money as they want however most women want a man near their financial level or more- that means the richer they become, the richer a man must be for her to be interested… that leaves her with a small number of men to be compatible with.
As it should be.
Good. Most men don’t marry poor women either. If they marry from liwer social status, these women are very educated. Fiction has convinced people that rich people often marry low and middle class people. It is an EXCEPTION. The rule is that the rich marry amongst themselves
@@liannababy4030 poor is a reach, yes if he’s wealthy he’s not picking a homeless woman from the street… but I’m not talking about someone destitute- I’m talking about a man not caring about what a woman can provide for him financially.
@@liannababy4030yh, people generally tend to gravitate towards similarity
Feminine power is for society standard of beauty. Someone who isn’t society’s idea of beauty will not see any advantage.
Which in definition, objectifying women for bread crumbs
I strongly agree
On point!
It's just her and her qualifications against the world
Its a debate y'all, stop with the hate. For the love of Christ! Some people in the comment section obviously are handing the show with maturity, giving logical ans constructive criticism, while some otbers are just being emotional about the whole thing. Even if youre not enjoying the show, dont come and start ranting on how you hate the ladies. Please, lets be civil while making comments
What a lovely conversation. It has the potential to break generational curses.
I really appreciated Cassandra’s voice and groundedness when positioning her perspective.
As human, we want to do the natural thing of seeing the world through our own lens. But if only some of us are free, none of us are free and we exist in systems. It’s important to take a wider view so you know how to win the game .
Listen more than you speak ❤
Cassandra ate❤❤❤
Cassandra is the most sensible on the panel !
Thank you for bringing Oreofe back!❤
Not my first time seeing Ore-ofe on Cruise and I’m a fan ❤️
Oreofo is annoying and self righteous. how can mama say she wanted to do something and u say she did not ? is that feminist ?
Oreofe is disconnected from reality. She is sooooooooooo disconnected from reality. That is why Cassandra keeps interrupting her. Cassandra has a more balanced nuance on this topic because she is directly involved with other women outside her sphere. Oreofe needs to step out of her bubble occassionally.
Jeez!!! I really love you for this understanding. Like you saw this!!! She dismisses other pples truths just bcos she doesn’t experience it. Cassandra connects more with the AVERAGE WOMAN’s reality.
you see the lady in black and white is shouting on top of her voice ...
Haew Oreofe is so fine 🥹🥹
She speaks politely too 😍
So i do believe that there is something called feminine power but it does not however come from a place of being naturally loved.
Firstly, women are most likely favored because of how they look, the one's who are not so beautiful don't get anything like pretty privilege whatsoever(basically objectification).
Secondly, some of the ladies said something about "because she's a woman, let's be soft on her " or something, that's basically viewing women as weak and not being placed on the same pedestal as men.
I also believe that the working spheres are still more dominated by men, it's one of the reasons why we never had a female president in Nigeria, they are majorly looked down upon, so yes men are still more privileged, it is not as rampant as it was but It definitely still exists .
Not related but many women who have made their way to the top are also mostly accused of sleeping their way there.
Lastly, majority of these women speak from a personal point of view and not from the point of view of an average woman living in Nigeria, because you did or did not experience such does not mean others didn't or it doesn't exist.
On your third paragraph, so are you saying women are of equal strengths to men?
No, that is not what i meant.. I will not be saying women and men are of the same strength, physically... Most men are stronger(most, not all) ... All I'm saying is that them being softer on women is not because of being naturally loved or whatnot, it's just that you're perceived as the weaker vessel.
NB:not all men are stronger than women.
@@Rumbu_P what if women are as strong as men tho what happens then?
then I think therefore it should be stripped of the title because the power is not in our hand and its not real call it what it is its internalized misogyny and patriarchy
@@rebeccaobakpolor952 that's where I'm driving at.... Feminine power is just a sugar coated name in my opinion, at least from the way the ladies were describing it
I loved this episode so much. Everyone brought really valid and great opinions to the table.
the way i ran here after seeing the teaser on tiktok 😂
One thing that some feminist don't know is that no matter how much you think you can fight, if the men don't support or put up the fight with you, you won't be very successful
Cassandra just be spitting facts back to back!!!!
They all speak so well
“If women were world leaders, we’ll just have a lot of countries that are not talking to each other “😂😂😂 … that got me😅
Not me saying that’s your family man with Cassandra at the same time😂😂😂😂
So Zainab,
Him earning more than you is giving misogyny but when he does your money is your money
Omo e tire me
the hypocrisy is crazy 😂
This Aunty on Fadan is bursting my heard, loveet!
I think it is strange to say the earning power of the AVERAGE woman in Africa is not limited. To do this is to ignore things like the wage gap; almost all industries are male dominated including the catering industry (google). Why is that?
It is to ignore the poor education of the girl child. It is to ignore the constant rise of femicide which among other things, LIMITS women from going to certain places for job interviews.
Ignoring the silly maternity leave policies of so many companies in Africa and the world at large.
It is to ignore the fact that the work of raising children rests primarily on the woman in Africa. It is to ignore period poverty.
All these, among many other factors no matter how little you consider them, LIMIT the earning power of the AVERAGE African woman.
Oreofe, woman do not have more earning power in this Nigeria.
I think they don’t understand what earning power is. A woman and a man can have same qualifications, same jobs, but the man will be paid more!!
I never comment on TH-cam because I am quite shy, but I just have to say this: Please, I am absolutely in love with Cassandra. In fact, I became convinced and went like, "Ah, this girl is too smart" when she explained her perspective on the "Women are not emotionally stable enough to handle some leadership positions" question.
22:50 thank you Arinola. God bless you. You have answered well.
😊 This was beyond beautiful ☺️
All your guess did very well. I am always on the look out for new release of your contents. Keep the good work up.
Zainab is not serious. Feminist wey de selective of her feminist beliefs
mama is a very wise woman
Please don't follow in Jubilee's footsteps. We don't want to see pro slavery vs antislavery
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wdym yes we do we need awareness on topics like this especially in a country as backward as Nigeria
@@rebeccaobakpolor952 There is a certain level of depravity that is not supposed to be platformed or even argued about because the tiny percent of the population that will misunderstand are too great. We don't need topics like Jews vs Nazis or kids vs pedos.
@@stamzthehuman897 well obviously but that's not what is discussed. do you think this topic was unnecessary?
@@rebeccaobakpolor952 No. I believe this particular topic was necessary. I don't want them to become like Jubilee and bring people that bastardise the beliefs of the average Nigerian
I’m actually a big fan of women earning and being able to do stuffs on their own but I think what the older woman is trying to say is …women aren’t really good with powers …a woman that earns more has more power in the relationship or marriage
It all comes down to what type of woman you wanna be …for your kids and for your husband
I mean we all have our core values ..and somehow women with powers tend to forget that easily
Lol. That's very incorrect. Most people don't do well with power regardless of gender
The moral of the story marry a husband with the right mentality. A man with drive and a man you are sure will strive to do well and you will both support each other. This argument come to place in a situation where there is a somewhat equal opportunity for progression available to both and that both can not purse it without the children suffering from lack of attention, the woman should let the man to pursue the opportunity.
honestly, about the earning power, and feminine power thing, it is still catering to someone who holds significant power over you- A MAN. Even with all the added advantages, how many women are actually at the top?
so las las, you don't have more earning power than him cos you are catering to him- A MAN who is in power. and someone who has the power to feed you can starve you, so the day you don't fit the whims or gratify their fantasies, God help you! lmap. if it was so much about feminine power, we would have had lots of women at the top, even by mere sleeping with who is at the top. so las las, they give you breadcrumbs, just enough to keep you thinking that you have power, but they are winning more.
That's why very successful women are sometimes termed masculine because to be successful to that level, you have to embody some of the characteristics normally attributed to men. Sure feminine power has its own advantages, however, when it comes to the real world, and getting to the top as a woman, you're gonna need to be qualified and graced with tenacity and a strong mind and heavenly backing, cos the other gender sometimes dey get fragile ego. so called "feminine energy" alone, ain't gonna get you there boo.
Indeed you are a blessing 🤝
Partners compete oo, unhealthy behavior.......
I don't know why the other women had to attack Mrs Favour with personalised questions instead of arguing on the subjects
This was a good episode!
Wish you could add diversity all of these women are Yoruba and they lean towards a patriarchal mindset if you added other ethic groups it would be different
They are Nigerian women…why does it matter
Am here again 😊 another wonderful content once i saw the notification i came running 😂😂
I loved Zainab😂🎉 please tell me she's a gen Z🎉🎉🎉🎉
All these women are beautiful. ❤
I love cruise bringing nigerian perspectives to the world
this was a beautiful episode… needed to hear this
This was a really good episode.
I wonder the kind of scripts Tade Olabisi will be writing.
She could be a good script writer. All that would be needed is a script editor.
Lmfao
I love how everyone looks beautiful and decent.
Imagine if it was an episode from America…. Every lady would be half naked
@@drsiza honestly 😳
I thought I was the only one who noticed!
@@drsizaand then, the ladies in the comments would troll @NK2003NP for making this comment 😂
You never see anything 😂😂
Collins Cassandra is so well spoken and intelligent.❤
I dont know if I'll change my kind in the future but I'm not for my money is my money your money is our money, marriage is a partnership and you guys should be able to plan as partners and find a balance. Inless he earns way more and you guys agree to let him spend. Marriage is planning, every step of the way
*mind
*Unless
Cassandra needs to understand that women are yet to dominate in the tech space simply put because of interests and not because men simply dominate in such sectors. Even in engineering today, we still hope to convince more women to join but all in all, it depends on interest.
Thank you ma. How many women do you see in construction, engineering, surveying? Let’s be true to ourselves. Similarly, how many male nurses do we see?
This is a lie but ok
You just hit the nail in the head, no man is dominating in the modelling industry
Yes, that's a loop hole that cassandra left out.
Many professions remain male dominated simply because women don't just want to be involved as much
@@jeffersonhassan4558hahhhhaa😂 even the fashion industry as a whole and the women's health industry😂😂
35:58 I don’t think religion is a weapon of slavery, rather a weapon of enlightenment. Most people read the Bible without the guidance of the Holy Spirit, that’s why they can conveniently coin one part of the Bible to back up their bias opinions… for wherever it is written for a woman to serve a man, you’d see where a man is to give equal value. So yes, I agree that leadership isn’t gender based, you’re either a good leader or you’re not.
Men should ‘love’ their wives but women should ’serve’ their husbands? How is that equal? Read 1 Cor 14:34-35. This doesn’t mean that religion doesn’t have advantages too.
@@sylviaowuala6343 I don’t know what love means to you and what equal value means to you but I believe when you study in depth verses on love, marriage, wife, husbands and children as a whole with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, you’d understand what I mean by equal VALUE. It takes one to love in order to willingly serve and if you know why he has to love you, you would agree (or maybe not) that “serving” is the least you can do.
I can share some verses , if you’re open to it.
@@a.aimuan but yet he can’t serve you “the least”
@@sylviaowuala6343 Ephesians 5:21 literally says “submit to one another out of reverence for Christ”. You’ve just proved the original commentator right about picking and choosing Bible verses to back up bias.
can the holy spirit explain the mass murder and slavery and misogyny in the bible?
4:38 this first point eh. My mom and I are looking for money so that my father can retire in peace. And a working mother isn't the cause for wayward children, a rich mother is definitely not. I know people that would have led different lives if their moms were rich, this particular girl was introduced to prostitution as a teenager and she gave her mother money to add things to her shop🙆🏾♀️🙆🏾♀️🙆🏾♀️ she even took it sef and the mother of the girl who introduced her was complaining that she's never received anything from her daughter 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️. Rich women are not anybody's problem abeg. All my life, I've wished my mom was the loaded one, anytime this woman has money, everybody dey feel am, including my dad. She's very free handed, I'm working but she'll give me money to make hair even if I just squandered my salary. My life would have been so sweet if my mom made more
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥. That older woman is just desperate to make her point. A woman who is determined to out earn her spouse doesn't have a husband, she has a competitor. This seems to be more of a problem for men. Why is it not seen as a problem that they treat their partners as rivals?
I disagree with that first woman o, my mum makes more money than my dad but we still connect with her a 100 times more than with my dad, unless a woman doesn’t want to have time for her children, money is never a barrier.
Your personal experience is not grounds for generalisation man.
I love this older woman😂
Nice to have Oreofe back 🎉
Everyone should do what they want, we have free will to do so. The problem is people secretly care what others think. Do what you want, be yourself. Just be aware of the consequences of your actions. If you want to: commit a crime and go to jail; marry and have a family; have pre-marital sex and stand the risk of getting a kid or escape by aborting (and go to jail if it's illegal in your country); get a job and earn money; sleep around and get STDs; read books and gain knowledge; up skill yourself and earn more money.
The problem starts when you force your opinions on people you DO NOT feed NOR govern.
Zainab didn't get to speak for long. I'd have loved to hear her opinions more..
Yh, I noticed but more often she had this middle/In-Between position
side note: the video quality is chef's kiss
Cassandra is my girl!!!
Best thing I did this yr is subscribing to cruise 😂😂❤❤😊
I love the 1st example and POV of Cassandra.
I love the panel. Mrs. Olabisi is living her soft girl life. With time, you'll understand her stance.