he didn't counter-offer, if he offered Ames that Darby would be the one on death row or just both of them in lifetime imprisonment, Clyde wouldn't have done any of this. He was blinded by the perfect score rating he has and his understanding of what is good for the case that he forgot his actual duty.
@@joewhitehead3 he purposely wouldn’t do things to risk not getting convictions, for his own ego and reputation, even if it meant knowingly letting rapist murderers off on incredibly light sentences or none at all. Did you not watch the movie? His ego to always be considered the winner was more important to him than actual justice.
No way some self absorbed ego maniac who cared more about numbers and ratings was smarter than clyde. Dude was doing some serious behind the scenes shit and suddenly gets found out and defeated so easily?
My question is how did they get the bomb back to the cell before Clyde got there. He wad already on his way back before they found the bomb. No way they could bring a bomb in through security!
@@KTMsoldier1988 it would definitely be a lot of paperwork and negotiation before getting in the prison in the first place, even then the prison woulda told him to leave or maybe even have him arrested. But that is just a mystery lol
Fox demanded to change the ending so his character came out winning, so that win would be les logical compares to the original. Because throughout the movie, it was established that Clyde was always ahead of Nick.
@@duyvan247 oh so thats why it felt so... idk how to describe it exactly but... it felt so disorganic maybe? like unnatural to the story or something, cus usually when turns like this happen there is usually a point in the movie or series or whatever where its a moment where you go "oh shit maybe i shoudnt be rooting for this guy anymore" but it never comes in this movie, till the end i feel i was on gerard butlers side
@@zaberfang Which shows how selfish he is. There's no reason both characters couldn't have won. Fox thinks Clyde is dead and goes to spend time with his family. Clyde is actually alive and enjoying a new life somewhere else, having taught ppl a lesson. 😌
@@jamielehman4934 fox character shouldn't have won anything he was a part of the issue have him think Clyde is dead then before the movie ends we catch him spying on Nick from a distance planning his last attack
@@xaviermontalban717 Why though, wouldn't that be the harsh truth in this situation that the protaganist couldn't win but also why does one guy get the creative direction over a whole team of writers and the director?
I never understood the original ending anyway. Nick killed everyone else in that wing of the prison by moving the bomb to the cell. He's a bigger murderer than Clyde.
@@MuffinMcFluffin Well, they certainly don't establish that very well in the film, if it's the case. It looks like a whole wing explodes in fire and the lawyer just walks away. I mean, did he check to see if the other cells were empty first? Hell, the door is blown off the Clyde's door from the force of the explosion. Did Nick even check on his friend who was locking the hidden escape door? The last we see, Colm Meaney is still running away underground, and Nick is maybe 100 feet away from the cell when the bomb goes off, despite running the way. Colm couldn't have gotten out in time. He was probably buried alive when that tunnel collapsed from the explosion. And Nick is just watching a dumb recital while Chief O'Brien suffocates due to his thoughtlessness.
@@berserkasaurusrex4233 Haha I think it's safe to say his partner was safe from harm as well. Sometimes you have to sacrifice bits to make a movie moment more impacting. In F. Gary Gray's case, that was getting a slow-motion shot of Jamie Foxx walking away as there is an explosion in that wing. And yeah, they likely scouted out solitary or had record of anybody else being in there. Heck, even Clyde probably scouted it out beforehand. How do you think he was able to build a tunnel without anyone else being aware, as well as work in and out of there, if there were other nearby individuals? I see what you're trying to get at, but it seems more like you're calling something a plot hole by force rather than being a little more presumptuous of the circumstance.
@@MuffinMcFluffin Well, I didn't call it a plothole, but it effectively is now that you mention it. There is zero indication in the film that the other cells are empty or that Nick even considered checking. Your assuming that characters must've checked ahead of time, when there is not even a throwaway line of dialogue about this, is just trying to mentally excuse a badly thought out scene. Most likely the writers didn't even consider that the other cells were likely occupied, making Nick a murderer. (Which he is, anyway, since he clearly killed Clyde. Having Clyde detonate the bomb doesn't make Nick less of a killer, since he put the murder weapon in the cell himself.) The film makes it clear that Clyde built the tunnel long before he killed his family's murderers; he didn't build it from inside the cell. He didn't know which cell he'd end up in, so built a secret entrance into each cell, presumably waiting until each particular solitary cell was empty, likely over a period of months. Then he just opened the door once he was sent to solitary after he killed his cellmate. As to the survival odds of poor Chief O'Brien, Nick says the bomb will go off in about 20 seconds, then takes off running. We never see the detective leave the tunnel, the last shot with him is him also running, still deep in the tunnel system. At any rate, Nick had no way to know he wasn't killing the detective. What if O'Brien had tripped and broke his leg after locking the secret door to the cell? I think Nick is just a thoughtless dickhead, frankly. Thankfully Clyde didn't tell him about the second bomb in the cello.
So let me get this straight. Dude hard hacked into the security feed of the prison.... but he didn't install a motion detector in the tunnel? Not even a camera watching the property? All he needed to keep going was a tiny PING on his mobile if someone tripped his hideout security. Then he could scamper off and try again.
Here's a ending for you. Chester who was Leslie Bibb's mystery boyfriend was actually Clyde all along. Leslie faked her death and was the real accomplice.Flashback and then the reveal to Nick. Clyde wins.
Personally, I would've like an ending where we learn Clyde really did have an accomplice. Nick leaves Clyde in the cell with the bomb. Nick proceeds to dismantle his own bomb and makes another phone call like, "Plan B. Get me outta here." Nick and several prison guards return to find the cell empty and the tunnel reopened. Nick is intercepted at home or on the highway by Clyde. Nick drops some of his moralizing talk, but Clyde's like, "This one isn't about me." Ames enters the scene, alive and well despite his seemingly graphic execution. Clyde remarks that the right chemicals made him look dead and the coroner had been paid off to expedite the disposal process. "You refused to give me justice, Nick, but you did so much worse to him." Ames proceeds to confront Nick with his sins. That he set Ames up to be executed despite Clyde telling him Darby was the killer. That Nick cared more about his conviction rate than the truth. Nick goes to make excuses and Ames puts a bullet in his head mid-sentence. Clyde slaps him on the shoulder and they leave the scene. The credits roll with audio of the news covering Nick's confession and proof of the staggering corruption within the local legal circuit. NOTE: Yeah, Clyde wanted all the revenge, but Ames was just some dumb punk wanted to steal stuff. The system screwed Ames just as hard as Clyde.
this is the 1 movie that i have always said was a great movie but the ending sucked. the proper ending should have been that nobody figured it out and nick who was the most corrupt of all,who only cared about his conviction rate, was killed last and clyde escaped through the tunnel and got away with his revenge/ justice.
@@macrogaming8003nah Clyde was always gonna kill em…… he rigged the bombs in middle of night and they armed when they open gate….. he knew they wouldn’t agree to his terms…. He was toying with nick……. I don’t think Clyde wanted to be released as he wanted to systematically change a corrupt system via war…. “ This is gonna be von Clausewitz shit, total fuckin war”!….. and in war/ revolution their is always damage of a callateral nature! He cried cause innocent casualties were unavoidable and he was never an evil man so it hurt him to do what he thought necessary!
I agree with your ending would have loved to see the guy who didn’t care about justice only his conviction rate! And boom goes the dynamite and the DA!
If this movie ended the way it should have, it would have stood the test of time in movie history like the usual suspects, unfortunately jamie foxx ruined it.
They never did release a director's cut with alternate ending dvd bluray....and everyone knows it was Impossible to beat him back to the prison with the bomb especially given he had at least 60-120mins head start from setting it up
What are you 7 the editing on this seems like they’ve been editing for 4 months legitimately anyone could of done this with almost no experience I could of made this while someone explained to me how to do so over the phone with bad reception and on a computer made from 2005
This movie has always stuck me as Odd... Clyde was the good guy.... Nick was a vile lawyer only after his record for years. Letting criminals go free. I'm sorry but the ending on this one will always strike me as a poor choice.
Yeah, I find it strange how in the end the system sort of won. Yeah he made a lasting impression on Nick and perhaps a few others, but in the end the system is rather unchanged. He lost, and the system won. But I suppose he too sort of lost himself along the way, killing people who already were beginning understand his message. That girl and his boss understood the error of their ways and they were still killed, it was Nick who was being stubborn until the very end. But none of this would’ve happened if it weren’t for him. And yet he gets the happy ending. I think in those final moments before he blew up Clyde understood maybe he took it too far, but that he was just trying to do the right thing and stick up for his family
Well the moment Nick didn't follow his deal at 6AM Clyde cried... because now he have kill more than he need...so it begins to lose his faith on Nick... Which is also...Nick is the one that cause Clyde to do more harm...even in the end they blow that cell along with few block...looking at the logic that should kill few more in the cell as they won't have time...but magically they already in his cell...when he was already arrived when they take that bomb...and u see from the scene road jam...no way man...
Yea clyde should have won in the end. I mean shit even if you keep the original ending jamie foxx character should have ended up in prison for murder. Would have been poetic justice did the right thing but because its outside of the law hes punished too. Movie was so good but the ending...I feel like that had to be foxx agent or a clause in his contracts where he has to win to keep his brand appeal going. Most of them do like the rock Jason stathom etc
Right?! Why doesn't he end up in prison for killing Clyde? Clyde had no problem with dying as he had lost everything he loved. The fact that Jamie Foxx doesn't receive any punishment for doing exactly what Clyde did makes the ending very unsatisfactory
Personally I think that this would have been the ending but due to movie promoting “violence” they MUST have had to change it, just like for the movie Joker, even joker had to be sent to jail to showcase “violence doesnt win in reality” but we all know the truth, the edit portrayed the justice really well
While I agree with you on this is how it should have ended and said so when I first saw it, but in a way Clyde did win in the original ending. He didn’t intend on living at the end just wanted to teach Nick that you should never make deals with murderers, or rapists. Which nick said he doesn’t make deals with any more. Just my opinion.
The worst part of the official ending wasn't that they were able to figure out what Clyde was doing and stop the bomb.... it's that Clyde didn't realize that when he saw Jamie Foxx standing in his prison cell! Did he think that Foxx just left the bomb at City Hall on the hopes that he could talk Clyde down? Dumb.
Just watched this movie again today and I can not stand the ending at all . Clyde should have won and I agree that Jamie foxx's character should have went to jail for killing everyone else in the jail with the bomb . I doubt any warden would allow a bomb be placed in their prison . Also I hate how they found the bomb that quick and Clyde should have hid it in his trash can on his cart
Lol for real like they could’ve took the bomb somewhere it couldn’t hurt anyone and just put a bullet in Clyde to avoid possibly killing other prisoners. Even if the wing is empty, they still fucked up the solitary confinement floor
In my opinion the movie should have ended with Clyde not making the call. After Jamie foxx says he no longer makes deals with murderers. Because even Clyde needs to be accountable for his actions, and he knows that.
They had to make the ending a victory for the system or it would never have made it to the box office. Can't have movies where the vigilante doesn't lose in the end. Boondock saints ended up in prison. V for Vendetta died. The ending of this movie being what it was kinda proves the point of system corruption that the movie reveals throughout.
Same reason why they killed the TV show Jericho. The premise was that "terrorists" detonated multiple nuclear weapons in the U.S. later in the show it turns out that elements of the government did it so they could establish a dictatorship.
The bombing of Parliament in the movie V for Vendetta, with that great music was a nice touch. It would've been really cool if they had this alternate ending.
No way Nick could have beaten Clyde back to the prison and convinced the Warden to let him blow up his prison! Not only that, but how did Clyde not see that cop who locked the tunnel door once Clyde went back to his cell! 😂
Great movie but there’s 2 main problems the hero loses and the movie acts like there’s a real reason for Jamie Foxs character to have such a huge part of the movie he’s a detective, prosecutor then promoted to DA of philly and a defense lawyer there’s no need for fox to have 4 different jobs in the movie
The right ending is... Clyde planted the bomb for Nick to find hoping that Nick would finally realize that murderers should be exterminated not bargained with. And that Clyde was watching Nick and knew Nick put the bomb in his cell. When he pushed the send button on the phone, Clyde should have said, ''You need to leave now Nick, because now Its my time to die. You'll make a good DA now.' Clyde being who he was was always going to die, and I would have rather it been him with the last word.
The original ending really is bullshit. I refuse to believe someone as clever as Clyde would've have tamper triggers. I also refuse to believe a pair of lawyers would be able to locate and transport a bomb safely.
clyde didn’t have to win but the way he lost was horribly executed a better ending would have been somehow he framed nick for some murders and they ended up sitting in the same cell or clyde murders nick wife and daughter then nick kills clyde. as nick kills clyde he understands why when clyde family was murdered he did what he did
I hated the ending mostly, because had his plan worked the crooked law system would finally have died and a chance at a new system would be born. instead in the end it was the crooked system that won.
I feel like I’m okay with him getting caught, but not that he was fully outsmarted by Nick, which given the brilliant nature of Clydes character doesn’t really add up.
Him getting away with it misses half the point. His whole ideology is that criminals shouldn't get away with their crimes. If he had gotten away with his that's just hypocrisy
I loved this movie and hated the ending. I’m so happy this alternate ending exists. How can a man whose family was slaughtered become the villain.? If I had the same cards dealt to me, I could see me going after the people who took my family from me and I’m a law abiding citizen too.
little known fact the original ending was supposed to be that clyde gets away and Nick was the one who dies, but the black actor who played Nick was too prideful and demanded the script be changed to make him the winner. major suckage : /
My ending always used to be the cops had a change of heart and let him go and he ended up moving to Bangladesh and living out the rest of his life in peace thanks to some old connections when he was working for the government
How about Clyde is on a sailboat, anchored at a beautiful atoll, he comes out of the water with a mahi-mahi on a spear gun and his girl friend turns, and it is Nicks wife!
Here is how I would have fixed the ending: 1. In the city government meeting, the Mayor plays up the fact that she doesn't care about breaking the law and violating the Constitutional rights of any citizen to protect her administration. The Police Commissioner and other city heads should affirm her stance. 2. Instead of planting a bomb to kill the city government, Clyde instead plans to record the meeting and transmit it over the internet when he presses the button (this is not revealed until later). 3. Nick does not know about the transmission and instead is convinced Nick has planted a bomb, a bomb he cannot find. 4. Nick confronts Clyde in the cell and threatens to kill him if Clyde won't tell Nick where the bomb is. 5. Clyde proposes they make a deal and Nick refuses, saying "I don't make deals with murderers." (Nick's character arc comes full circle. Clyde now knows he has finally gotten through to Nick) 6. Clyde pulls out the cell phone and presses the button before Nick can stop him, Nick shoots Clyde. (Clyde's character arc is completed)(Yes, Clyde should die in the end because he IS a murderer and justice must be done; this should be the conclusion to Clyde's plan all along.) 7. Cut to six months later. The entire city government has been removed or resigned in disgrace. Nick is the new City Attorney.
I like this one. Although, might as well have Clyde record Nick shooting him as well with Nick ending up in prison when it's all leaked for the happiest of endings.
I actually like this ending that's a great idea. No point for nick to die tho since all that Clyde did to get through to him would have been wasted. Nick must life for it to make sense. It'd be like a superhero getting a major power boost near the end of a fight then dying anyway 5m later. Lol
@Kramer I don't completely agree with your breakdown of how the movie should have went. Most of it is good. But Clyde shouldn't have to die. Nick made him a killer, this is all Nick's fault. Let Clyde shoot Nick, wounding, but realizing he has been no better than a criminal. After he finds out the truth of Clyde recording the meeting, he realizes he's not worthy of the work he does. He resigns and leaves, possibly for another state and a simple life.
Ending was bad as everyone has said... Gerard Butler's character should have either gotten away with it... Or should have forced the 'good guys' to break the law in order to stop him hence proving his point and still winning... The ending removed Jamie Foxx from the moral dilemma of upholding the law and letting people die or breaking the law in order to stop/kill Gerard Butler's character... Either way, Butler's character achieved his objective.
I prefer this ending but I hate to find it's fake where I have been trying to see the real alternate ending, if any! I guess it's my fault not to read the description first.
God I hated how SUDDENLY THEY HAD to BE FORCED to figure out the most detail plan, in the MOST convenient way, especially when the PREMISE was "he can kill you and never be in the room"
Yeah should of made a murky ending. He gets what he wanted but it still doesn't get his family back while the other guy walks out knowing well he agrees but still choose to do his best in the system.
@@upsideizi1427 how did he get out all the other times. i thought that he himself was the "accomplise" and that there were no other "main" accomplises.
@@BasicEndjo It's cut in this clip. In the full scene the police detective (curly haired one that was in Star Trek TNG) wedges the door closed right after Jamie Foxx closes the outer door of the cell.
the original ending was hypocritical ... rather finish movies like this ... clyde should be allowed to do whatever he chooses with those criminals (who entered his house) vs the law should follow similar principals ... why are we paying to support and subsidise these rubbish humans who mostly cause harm
I can’t stand Jamie fox. I heard this movie had a different ending planned, but then he whined and cried about it until they let him have his character survive/look like the winner, even though it made no sense/ruined the ending
@Alex Yelle that is just a rumor. Jamie had no power as it was Gerard who was the producer. All that simply happened is Butler liked the Clyde character more so they switched roles nothing more.
@@charlesdoyle3630 I second this, Butler thought his own character was "monstrous" despite playing him excellently, with the fervor and gusto of someone truly died-in-the-wool fanatical. I think they struggled with the ending not because of individual issues, but because ending this movie is quite difficult when its first two acts are impeccable. They frankly just needed 30 minutes more run time. Jamie Fox's righteous indignation here isn't represented well enough, there's a few deleted scenes that show his perspective more, and while I'm actually "ok" with the ending it could've been so much more, instead, it ends long before it feels resolved. Placing the bomb in Clyde's cell represents a breach of crazy amount of legality, and danger to himself and others transporting it. They could've made this much simpler by having Jamie Fox's character find the tunnel earlier, and in a panic to avoid a violent confrontation, he switches a test device with the real one BEFORE Clyde plants it. Then the explosion itself comes from the tunnel, where he might've kept the bomb closer to "tinker" with it. I don't disagree with the ending, it's just the rest of the movie is so eloquently thought out but the ending is not. They also had a much better narrative about the state of the justice system, and "punishment" as a model for justice they could've focused on. I think that's what really is "off" about the movie. Everyone loves Clyde's narrative paradigm, but Jamie Foxx's character should've represented an opposing ideology with redeeming qualities. Giving him more intellectual victories instead of seething negativity would've gone a long way to make him sympathetic, and the natural counterpart to Clyde. Meanwhile Clyde's amount of screentime presents him as the main character, which puts Jamie Foxx in a supporting role. I'm not going to say they should've cut a minute of clyde's time, but they should've let this movie's length increase and develop his character, and his ideology, with the same care they put into Clyde's. Showing Nick's capability to work WITHIN the system, instead of dragging him into Clyde's game. Essentially the ending here paints Clyde as being right, as Nick uses the same tools of murder Clyde did to enact his own personal brand of justice, instead of Nick showing a greater side. I can barely even remember "Nicks" name, and his generic story, he comes off as a supporting character, which makes the ending disjointed. Alternatively some of the other supporting characters could've been played up, and had the narrative about Justice being about the collaborative nature of society at large - that "truth" comes forward through collaboration with others, and that Clyde's solitude was his true weakness. Another detail that's off is that Nick does not fight hard for Clyde's life. If Nick instead took the tact that he'd have to kill Clyde before he hit the switch, as a lawman would have to do legally, it would've been Nick arguing more fervently for Clyde's life. Going as far as shooting Clyde to try and stop him from using the detonator would've made Nick more sympathetic, as while Clyde is a murderer and is likely to get the chair, he should work within the justice system to actually defeat Clyde, showing its merits - in this case possibly saving Clyde from himself. Instead, Nick risks a huge explosion and uses Clyde's methods, which is ideologically bankrupt in another wise excellent screenplay. Still, if you just imagine a few scenes relieving the narrative of the bombs transport and ethical puzzle, and then change Jamie Fox's tact slightly to be more sympathetic, as the justice system naturally is, it'd fix the whole movie. It's just "incomplete".
@@BigMac8000 many directors and producers dont understand the importance of the conceptual battle taking place along with the actual battle. This is what makes people love anime. whether its goku fighting freeza or naruto fighting pain. these arnt simply two people punching each other. these are developed characters coming into conflict due to their ideologies along with their circumstance. The thing that makes it so engaging however is the understanding we have of these ideologies and how we not only sympathize but also empathize with them. We cheer on naruto for his optimism and his love for his family and home. He wants to create a better world. One with peace. however we also have sympathy and even empathize with pain. "Do you understand Pain a little now? If you don’t share someone’s pain you can never understand them." Pain points out we cant empathize unless we have shared pain. How can i understand your struggle if i have not struggled? Pain also wants to create a better world. One with peace. The place they differ is their methodology. While we may disagree with pains methodology we understand his ideology and we agree with portions of it. The problem is there isnt much of an ideological struggle going on. The entire force is behind butlers character. Foxs character doesnt learn much. Didnt start from a point of a conflicting ideology. He even tells butler he almost supports what he did to the murderer. Which is even demonstrated later when he murders butlers character. This would be like if naruto agreed with pain but just didnt like it was happening to him which is just a fisticuff match with no real ideological stakes. i could go on but this is pretty long lol.
For those of you who didn't understand the end of this movie, Clyde DID win. The moment Nick said, "I no longer make deals with murderers." Clyde became the victor. If you wanted Clyde to live, what kind of life would that have been? Everyone he loved was gone. He was ready to move on. He did what he set out to do, even if the last bomb didn't go off where it was meant to.
This ending is a whole lot better than the original because it's realistic as smart as this guy was and then he goes back to the prison after his last set up now it don't make no sense, but this ending makes way better since than the one they went with I'm just saying he's too smart to go back to the prison and then get blowed up by his own bomb come on now y'all this was all Hollywood and he worked military too and he was special ops he ain't going to go out like that IJS
This is the one thing that so pissed me off about the ending. He is supposed to be one of the smartest think tank brains, but he wouldn't have any kind of failsafe or trips. nothing when it came to his cell, the bomb especially, or his little den. Give me a break. Would have been a great movie if the ending wasn't so lame.
Much better ending than the original. Thanks for sharing. However, the perfect after credit ending would have been if Clyde did the same thing to Nick as he did to Darby!
I think there was an original ending that would've been similar to this, but when the studio double checked it or test screened it, they got worried too many people would side with Clyde. Thus, we have the crappy ending we have today. Still loved the movie despite the ending, this one is canon, thank you OP.
The ending of the original movie was dumb. Clyde made that bomb. He could simply open up the briefcase and disable it. He was the guy who made it and knew it inside and out.
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Alternate ending: It's actually a prequel to Olympus Has Fallen and Jamie Foxx wants to one-up Gerald Butler and becomes president instead in White House Down
this is how the movie should have ended. adding to this would be and nick's (saved best for last) family gets killed so he can feel what clyde feels and then one on one combat nick dies brutally.
Clyde wins when he forces Nick to dirty his hands beyond his conception of "justice". Now everything Nick does is a part of Clyde. The real movie is twisted enough as it is. Pales in comparison to bLoWiNg Up a bUiLdInG. Thats just destruction. Nick is an agent of Clydes Gift.
Actually no, Nick will go on believing that he's doing the right thing, that the system that he works for isn't broken. He will never understand what Clyde went through, because he will never allow himself to. All he'll see is that Clyde is the 'bad guy' who did bad things, he won't see that he did anything wrong at all. You can plainly see that in the scene where Nick repeatedly punches Clyde outside the prison gates. Clyde is trying to get him to see what's going on, but Nick is blinded by his own ignorance. Same as with the interrogation scene, where he says "If you ever lay a _finger_ on my family!". It's all about him, and that's the way it's always been. He's completely fine with Clyde getting royally fucked over, as well as letting a turd in human clothing go free and sentencing the other guy (who was just 'there' and didn't participate in any of the travesties) to die by lethal injection, just to protect his conviction record. Like Clyde said, Nick should've brought it to trial. And after the judge threw out all that evidence Nick should've tried to get it heard in another court, stating that the judge unfairly threw out valuable evidence. Clyde's point was that Nick should've tried _something,_ instead of making a deal. And at the end, Nick never learned his lesson. Sure he said "I don't work with murderers anymore, you taught me that.", but he just said that to stick it to Clyde. You can bet your ass that Nick will make a deal with a rapist/murderer/child molester in a hot second if it saves his conviction rate. And if anything similar happens to his family, he'd be the first one to cry to the justice system to save him, and if they didn't he'd be all "This system is broken!!", completely ignoring the irony.
There should honestly have been a 2nd bomb in City Hall, wherein even though Clyde dies, he still wins somehow because he knows Nick slipped up and missed something, which will haunt Nick's dreams forever.
I think i read somewhere Jamie Foxx said hed do the film only if his character came out the winner. Its like they tried to make a film of 'good triumphs over evil' without realising most people would side with the man wronged by the justice system.
If this story were a real one, Clyde would have definitely completed his mission successfully. No way a prosecutor would have outsmarted a highly trained tactician. Remember he killed that one guy by inventing a kevlar thread with a hightech ratchet made of carbon fibre and inserted it into bro's tie! Lol.. No way kinetic operations recon mercenary fumbles the ball at the end.
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At the end the character of Jamie Foxx was being portrayed as good. But we all know, that character was corrupt himself.
The cause of those were also Nick....if he just agree with 6 AM...it won't gone uncontrollable...
How was he corrupt? He basically followed all the rules
he didn't counter-offer, if he offered Ames that Darby would be the one on death row or just both of them in lifetime imprisonment, Clyde wouldn't have done any of this. He was blinded by the perfect score rating he has and his understanding of what is good for the case that he forgot his actual duty.
@@joewhitehead3 he purposely wouldn’t do things to risk not getting convictions, for his own ego and reputation, even if it meant knowingly letting rapist murderers off on incredibly light sentences or none at all. Did you not watch the movie? His ego to always be considered the winner was more important to him than actual justice.
@@amostlyreasonableguy But he woulda loved more than anything to destroy Darby. Even said that to his face & praised Clyde for killing him
Fantastic movie horrible ending. He was 10 steps in front of everyone suddenly he's outsmarted
Exactly what I was thinking!
No way some self absorbed ego maniac who cared more about numbers and ratings was smarter than clyde. Dude was doing some serious behind the scenes shit and suddenly gets found out and defeated so easily?
And outsmarted by that dimwit jamie fox ...Although he was brilliant as Ray Charles...
My question is how did they get the bomb back to the cell before Clyde got there. He wad already on his way back before they found the bomb. No way they could bring a bomb in through security!
@@KTMsoldier1988 it would definitely be a lot of paperwork and negotiation before getting in the prison in the first place, even then the prison woulda told him to leave or maybe even have him arrested. But that is just a mystery lol
You have no idea how much this means to me. You fixed it. You magnificent bastard, you fixed the movie.
I agree! I hated the original ending so much!!
lmao
They filmed more than one ending.. and this guy posted some crap edit with v for vendetta spliced in
@@zmcginnis66where can I find the actual version?
Lol
Movie could have been an all-time classic but they had to go the route of "good guys always win".
That Jamie Foxx character wasn't a good guy... He was selfish, and corrupt himself.
Nick,Not even the good guys...he the one that causing Clyde to not able to tell them about the bomb if they had just go with 6am deal
He was the good guy!!
who was even the good guy in this movie
@@seaweedbanana4663 nobody was.
I find hard to believe Jamie found the bomb and got back in his cell. Bull ending for sure.
Fox demanded to change the ending so his character came out winning, so that win would be les logical compares to the original. Because throughout the movie, it was established that Clyde was always ahead of Nick.
I agree..... Defies logic....but it's just a movie.....just entertainment.
@@duyvan247 So what was the origicanl ending? The bomb blowing the mayor office? Then what?
@@duyvan247 oh so thats why it felt so... idk how to describe it exactly but... it felt so disorganic maybe? like unnatural to the story or something, cus usually when turns like this happen there is usually a point in the movie or series or whatever where its a moment where you go "oh shit maybe i shoudnt be rooting for this guy anymore" but it never comes in this movie, till the end i feel i was on gerard butlers side
Woke ending before woke knew about woke. 😂
This one of those movies that REALLY needs a remake to fix that garbage ending
I'd rather live with the BS ending. I fear what modern creators would do to this neo-classic.
Just let it be. We all know exactly why the ending does not match right with the plot.
AI will do that for you in a few years
I will never understand why the writer chose to have Clyde lose maybe underestimated how many people was going to side with him.
Foxx apparently didn't like the ending and threatened to leave the production if his demands weren't met. Hence, the change.
@@zaberfang Which shows how selfish he is. There's no reason both characters couldn't have won. Fox thinks Clyde is dead and goes to spend time with his family. Clyde is actually alive and enjoying a new life somewhere else, having taught ppl a lesson. 😌
@@jamielehman4934 fox character shouldn't have won anything he was a part of the issue have him think Clyde is dead then before the movie ends we catch him spying on Nick from a distance planning his last attack
Clyde win would have promoted terrorism. U don't address evil with evil...! That's my two sense
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The original ending ruined the whole movie.
You can thank Foxx for that as he was demanding the character of Clyde to lose
@@xaviermontalban717 Why though, wouldn't that be the harsh truth in this situation that the protaganist couldn't win but also why does one guy get the creative direction over a whole team of writers and the director?
Jamie fow ruined a great movie
I never understood the original ending anyway. Nick killed everyone else in that wing of the prison by moving the bomb to the cell. He's a bigger murderer than Clyde.
Justice or Murder... Lines are blurred
Clyde was in solitary confinement. It's possible (and for the film's sake, even likely) that he was the only prisoner in said wing.
@@MuffinMcFluffin Well, they certainly don't establish that very well in the film, if it's the case. It looks like a whole wing explodes in fire and the lawyer just walks away. I mean, did he check to see if the other cells were empty first? Hell, the door is blown off the Clyde's door from the force of the explosion. Did Nick even check on his friend who was locking the hidden escape door? The last we see, Colm Meaney is still running away underground, and Nick is maybe 100 feet away from the cell when the bomb goes off, despite running the way. Colm couldn't have gotten out in time. He was probably buried alive when that tunnel collapsed from the explosion. And Nick is just watching a dumb recital while Chief O'Brien suffocates due to his thoughtlessness.
@@berserkasaurusrex4233 Haha I think it's safe to say his partner was safe from harm as well. Sometimes you have to sacrifice bits to make a movie moment more impacting. In F. Gary Gray's case, that was getting a slow-motion shot of Jamie Foxx walking away as there is an explosion in that wing.
And yeah, they likely scouted out solitary or had record of anybody else being in there. Heck, even Clyde probably scouted it out beforehand. How do you think he was able to build a tunnel without anyone else being aware, as well as work in and out of there, if there were other nearby individuals?
I see what you're trying to get at, but it seems more like you're calling something a plot hole by force rather than being a little more presumptuous of the circumstance.
@@MuffinMcFluffin Well, I didn't call it a plothole, but it effectively is now that you mention it. There is zero indication in the film that the other cells are empty or that Nick even considered checking. Your assuming that characters must've checked ahead of time, when there is not even a throwaway line of dialogue about this, is just trying to mentally excuse a badly thought out scene. Most likely the writers didn't even consider that the other cells were likely occupied, making Nick a murderer.
(Which he is, anyway, since he clearly killed Clyde. Having Clyde detonate the bomb doesn't make Nick less of a killer, since he put the murder weapon in the cell himself.)
The film makes it clear that Clyde built the tunnel long before he killed his family's murderers; he didn't build it from inside the cell. He didn't know which cell he'd end up in, so built a secret entrance into each cell, presumably waiting until each particular solitary cell was empty, likely over a period of months. Then he just opened the door once he was sent to solitary after he killed his cellmate.
As to the survival odds of poor Chief O'Brien, Nick says the bomb will go off in about 20 seconds, then takes off running. We never see the detective leave the tunnel, the last shot with him is him also running, still deep in the tunnel system. At any rate, Nick had no way to know he wasn't killing the detective. What if O'Brien had tripped and broke his leg after locking the secret door to the cell?
I think Nick is just a thoughtless dickhead, frankly. Thankfully Clyde didn't tell him about the second bomb in the cello.
So let me get this straight. Dude hard hacked into the security feed of the prison.... but he didn't install a motion detector in the tunnel? Not even a camera watching the property? All he needed to keep going was a tiny PING on his mobile if someone tripped his hideout security. Then he could scamper off and try again.
Na it’s worse then that the guy can remember latitude and longitude’s but can’t remember 2 hrs later that the cover is off his classic car
This should have been the true ending, the man beat a corrupt system.
You don’t beat a system by blowing up a building full of people
I mean... he got back at the main guy. Then took down a handful of people in the system. I'd say he won
@@joewhitehead3 you should watch v for vendetta
@@lorton190 Why?
@@lorton190 No that's antifa garbage and V didn't unite the people by blowing anyone up.
Here's a ending for you. Chester who was Leslie Bibb's mystery boyfriend was actually Clyde all along. Leslie faked her death and was the real accomplice.Flashback and then the reveal to Nick. Clyde wins.
this is weird but that exactly how I remembered it happening when i first watched this movie
i also thought that clyde was chester and btch that must slap nick right in the fucking face
Nah cause she was around when his wife got murdered, unless he was having an affair their relationship wouldn't make sense
@@cptayne Or Sarah claims she has a boyfriend, but in reality, they're old friends who go way back before Clyde met his wife.
I like this.
they moved the Bomb across the Atlantic and put it in the Parliament building!? that is impressive
the bomb was supposed to go off in 30 seconds. How the fuck they moved the bomb so fast
Bloody hell
@@29subhra 30 seconds after receiving a call
@@kennethe3569 because all major bomb installations are done in 30 seconds.
@@29subhra fr bruh
Personally, I would've like an ending where we learn Clyde really did have an accomplice. Nick leaves Clyde in the cell with the bomb. Nick proceeds to dismantle his own bomb and makes another phone call like, "Plan B. Get me outta here."
Nick and several prison guards return to find the cell empty and the tunnel reopened. Nick is intercepted at home or on the highway by Clyde. Nick drops some of his moralizing talk, but Clyde's like, "This one isn't about me."
Ames enters the scene, alive and well despite his seemingly graphic execution. Clyde remarks that the right chemicals made him look dead and the coroner had been paid off to expedite the disposal process. "You refused to give me justice, Nick, but you did so much worse to him."
Ames proceeds to confront Nick with his sins. That he set Ames up to be executed despite Clyde telling him Darby was the killer. That Nick cared more about his conviction rate than the truth. Nick goes to make excuses and Ames puts a bullet in his head mid-sentence.
Clyde slaps him on the shoulder and they leave the scene. The credits roll with audio of the news covering Nick's confession and proof of the staggering corruption within the local legal circuit.
NOTE: Yeah, Clyde wanted all the revenge, but Ames was just some dumb punk wanted to steal stuff. The system screwed Ames just as hard as Clyde.
I like it.
Someone wrote that Nick should have been watching his daughter’s recital when you hear the sound of his tie strangling him.
this is the 1 movie that i have always said was a great movie but the ending sucked. the proper ending should have been that nobody figured it out and nick who was the most corrupt of all,who only cared about his conviction rate, was killed last and clyde escaped through the tunnel and got away with his revenge/ justice.
Yeah...Nick also the reason for Clyde himself to lose faith at him...and if he agree with 6 AM deal...it would have ended with less people die
I mean, I thought Nick was ok, it woulda been fine if he lived, but I wanted Clyde to escape and live too!
@@macrogaming8003nah Clyde was always gonna kill em…… he rigged the bombs in middle of night and they armed when they open gate….. he knew they wouldn’t agree to his terms…. He was toying with nick……. I don’t think Clyde wanted to be released as he wanted to systematically change a corrupt system via war…. “ This is gonna be von Clausewitz shit, total fuckin war”!….. and in war/ revolution their is always damage of a callateral nature! He cried cause innocent casualties were unavoidable and he was never an evil man so it hurt him to do what he thought necessary!
I agree with your ending would have loved to see the guy who didn’t care about justice only his conviction rate! And boom goes the dynamite and the DA!
Driving off as the credits roll in his classic black Cadillac
This is a better ending than the other one. This ending is now canon.
I see what you did there. I like it.
@@hankdutton8896 thanks. I hated how the movie ended. Clyde wins is way better. I hope Nick learns the errors of his ways.
@@AH-is5yg Completely agree.
It's da bomb...not da canon. ;)
If this movie ended the way it should have, it would have stood the test of time in movie history like the usual suspects, unfortunately jamie foxx ruined it.
Well said.
More like the writers ruined it
I honestly would have liked to have seen Denzel play his part. Then I could have spent the entire movie going back and forth on who I wanted to win. 🤣
You still believe Jamie had anything to do with the ending when it's been disproven and debunked for years?
Much like every other film Jamie Foxx has been in.
They never did release a director's cut with alternate ending dvd bluray....and everyone knows it was Impossible to beat him back to the prison with the bomb especially given he had at least 60-120mins head start from setting it up
This was better then the actual ending even thought I have no idea how the bomb got from NYC to Parliament in England.
he took down the true source of America's injustice; the british monarchy lol
@@Mrdestiny17 You're both idiots...it was Philly City Hall, not NYC and it WAS Parliament, not Buckingham Palace 🙄
This is very well edited... I even questioned myself and the time I watched the movie. I actually prefer this ending..
Yeah if you want an ending that doesn't make any sense why would an American based movie end with the British Parliament blowing up
What are you 7 the editing on this seems like they’ve been editing for 4 months legitimately anyone could of done this with almost no experience I could of made this while someone explained to me how to do so over the phone with bad reception and on a computer made from 2005
This is the end of one of his other movies, something down.
@@jeffreyhopkins7198 it's the ending of V for vendetta when he blows up the Parliament building
You’re an idiot if you thought this was “very well edited.” 🥴
This movie has always stuck me as Odd... Clyde was the good guy.... Nick was a vile lawyer only after his record for years. Letting criminals go free. I'm sorry but the ending on this one will always strike me as a poor choice.
Clyde was not a good guy 😂😂.
Moral of the story is, “The US justice system always wins”.
Same goes for every other ‘democracy’ in the world, thanks to putrid judges and morally decrepit, blood sucking lawyers
They are the only ones allow to brake rules and cheat to protect poor defenseless criminals from horrible law abiding citizens.
Yeah, I find it strange how in the end the system sort of won. Yeah he made a lasting impression on Nick and perhaps a few others, but in the end the system is rather unchanged. He lost, and the system won. But I suppose he too sort of lost himself along the way, killing people who already were beginning understand his message. That girl and his boss understood the error of their ways and they were still killed, it was Nick who was being stubborn until the very end. But none of this would’ve happened if it weren’t for him. And yet he gets the happy ending. I think in those final moments before he blew up Clyde understood maybe he took it too far, but that he was just trying to do the right thing and stick up for his family
Well the moment Nick didn't follow his deal at 6AM Clyde cried... because now he have kill more than he need...so it begins to lose his faith on Nick...
Which is also...Nick is the one that cause Clyde to do more harm...even in the end they blow that cell along with few block...looking at the logic that should kill few more in the cell as they won't have time...but magically they already in his cell...when he was already arrived when they take that bomb...and u see from the scene road jam...no way man...
You kill my wife and kids and I am doing the same
@@macrogaming8003 Clyde is not a hero. He planted those bombs himself and gave Nick an ultimatum. Clyde endangered those people himself
Yea clyde should have won in the end. I mean shit even if you keep the original ending jamie foxx character should have ended up in prison for murder. Would have been poetic justice did the right thing but because its outside of the law hes punished too. Movie was so good but the ending...I feel like that had to be foxx agent or a clause in his contracts where he has to win to keep his brand appeal going. Most of them do like the rock Jason stathom etc
Right?! Why doesn't he end up in prison for killing Clyde? Clyde had no problem with dying as he had lost everything he loved. The fact that Jamie Foxx doesn't receive any punishment for doing exactly what Clyde did makes the ending very unsatisfactory
Personally I think that this would have been the ending but due to movie promoting “violence” they MUST have had to change it, just like for the movie Joker, even joker had to be sent to jail to showcase “violence doesnt win in reality” but we all know the truth, the edit portrayed the justice really well
While I agree with you on this is how it should have ended and said so when I first saw it, but in a way Clyde did win in the original ending. He didn’t intend on living at the end just wanted to teach Nick that you should never make deals with murderers, or rapists. Which nick said he doesn’t make deals with any more. Just my opinion.
The worst part of the official ending wasn't that they were able to figure out what Clyde was doing and stop the bomb.... it's that Clyde didn't realize that when he saw Jamie Foxx standing in his prison cell! Did he think that Foxx just left the bomb at City Hall on the hopes that he could talk Clyde down? Dumb.
This is the true ending.
The Law has Fallen
The Phantom of Philadelphia has Risen
Reference?
Just watched this movie again today and I can not stand the ending at all . Clyde should have won and I agree that Jamie foxx's character should have went to jail for killing everyone else in the jail with the bomb . I doubt any warden would allow a bomb be placed in their prison . Also I hate how they found the bomb that quick and Clyde should have hid it in his trash can on his cart
@Brendan
Clyde should have had multiple bombs. They find the first, assume that's it, don't look for any more. Oops.
I would assume Clyde installed more then one...so they can't find it at the same time...above and below...boom....
Lol for real like they could’ve took the bomb somewhere it couldn’t hurt anyone and just put a bullet in Clyde to avoid possibly killing other prisoners. Even if the wing is empty, they still fucked up the solitary confinement floor
In my opinion the movie should have ended with Clyde not making the call. After Jamie foxx says he no longer makes deals with murderers. Because even Clyde needs to be accountable for his actions, and he knows that.
They had to make the ending a victory for the system or it would never have made it to the box office. Can't have movies where the vigilante doesn't lose in the end. Boondock saints ended up in prison. V for Vendetta died. The ending of this movie being what it was kinda proves the point of system corruption that the movie reveals throughout.
Same reason why they killed the TV show Jericho. The premise was that "terrorists" detonated multiple nuclear weapons in the U.S. later in the show it turns out that elements of the government did it so they could establish a dictatorship.
its retarted how he lose in the end. like they dont know whats coming to them until that time.
This movie would have been a classic with the right ending.
The bombing of Parliament in the movie V for Vendetta, with that great music was a nice touch. It would've been really cool if they had this alternate ending.
Stravinsky!
Uhhh, this is the original ending with the ending of London has fallen stitched onto it...
Thank you for this. Justice has been served.
He presses enter on his keyboard at the end, which would clearly "save" the draft, yet it still acts as if he clicked delete
No way Nick could have beaten Clyde back to the prison and convinced the Warden to let him blow up his prison! Not only that, but how did Clyde not see that cop who locked the tunnel door once Clyde went back to his cell! 😂
Great movie but there’s 2 main problems the hero loses and the movie acts like there’s a real reason for Jamie Foxs character to have such a huge part of the movie he’s a detective, prosecutor then promoted to DA of philly and a defense lawyer there’s no need for fox to have 4 different jobs in the movie
One of the reasons his character has a big role is because jamie fox character made a deal instead of goin for maxed sentence.
The right ending is... Clyde planted the bomb for Nick to find hoping that Nick would finally realize that murderers should be exterminated not bargained with. And that Clyde was watching Nick and knew Nick put the bomb in his cell. When he pushed the send button on the phone, Clyde should have said, ''You need to leave now Nick, because now Its my time to die. You'll make a good DA now.'
Clyde being who he was was always going to die, and I would have rather it been him with the last word.
Hoach and McDowell that is a set of great ideas.
i fucking love these replies omg
Even i though the one that give Nick the properties detail was Clyde himself
This movie made me realize the depths of my _fatigue_ from _the message_
The original ending really is bullshit. I refuse to believe someone as clever as Clyde would've have tamper triggers. I also refuse to believe a pair of lawyers would be able to locate and transport a bomb safely.
clyde didn’t have to win but the way he lost was horribly executed a better ending would have been somehow he framed nick for some murders and they ended up sitting in the same cell or clyde murders nick wife and daughter then nick kills clyde. as nick kills clyde he understands why when clyde family was murdered he did what he did
No one else shoulda been murdered
This alternate ending brings a sense of absolution that the original sorely lacks. Very satisfying, thank you!
In real life I’m sure a da isn’t going to be racing around the city w police detectives.
Like they're gonna allow some lawyer to put a live bomb in a prison, just to see how it played out. Laaaaaaaame.
I hated the ending mostly, because had his plan worked the crooked law system would finally have died and a chance at a new system would be born.
instead in the end it was the crooked system that won.
It's a realistic thriller not a fantasy movie
@@stalwartteakettlepotato9879 yeah but a fella can dream.
You sir are a gentleman and a scholar.
Why did the government let a brilliant tactician/strategists they used die in prison?
Gotta love the 1812 overture being played while the buildings explode.
It's the scene from "V for Vendetta".
This is how it ended for me
This is the ending I wanted! The ending every1 wanted!!
Honestly. He should’ve got away with it in the movie.
I feel like I’m okay with him getting caught, but not that he was fully outsmarted by Nick, which given the brilliant nature of Clydes character doesn’t really add up.
Him getting away with it misses half the point. His whole ideology is that criminals shouldn't get away with their crimes. If he had gotten away with his that's just hypocrisy
Yup that's the ending I remembered
I loved this movie and hated the ending. I’m so happy this alternate ending exists. How can a man whose family was slaughtered become the villain.? If I had the same cards dealt to me, I could see me going after the people who took my family from me and I’m a law abiding citizen too.
Awesome video, don't know why it doesn't have more likes.
Thanks for this edit
that's the end everybody wanted to see🎉
little known fact the original ending was supposed to be that clyde gets away and Nick was the one who dies, but the black actor who played Nick was too prideful and demanded the script be changed to make him the winner. major suckage : /
This is why every show has a gay actor now 😂 fucking stupid you have bet but if we made a show with just whites god forbid lmao
Source?
Source: Wikipedia wikileaks😉
My ending always used to be the cops had a change of heart and let him go and he ended up moving to Bangladesh and living out the rest of his life in peace thanks to some old connections when he was working for the government
How about Clyde is on a sailboat, anchored at a beautiful atoll, he comes out of the water with a mahi-mahi on a spear gun and his girl friend turns, and it is Nicks wife!
Here is how I would have fixed the ending:
1. In the city government meeting, the Mayor plays up the fact that she doesn't care about breaking the law and violating the Constitutional rights of any citizen to protect her administration. The Police Commissioner and other city heads should affirm her stance.
2. Instead of planting a bomb to kill the city government, Clyde instead plans to record the meeting and transmit it over the internet when he presses the button (this is not revealed until later).
3. Nick does not know about the transmission and instead is convinced Nick has planted a bomb, a bomb he cannot find.
4. Nick confronts Clyde in the cell and threatens to kill him if Clyde won't tell Nick where the bomb is.
5. Clyde proposes they make a deal and Nick refuses, saying "I don't make deals with murderers." (Nick's character arc comes full circle. Clyde now knows he has finally gotten through to Nick)
6. Clyde pulls out the cell phone and presses the button before Nick can stop him, Nick shoots Clyde. (Clyde's character arc is completed)(Yes, Clyde should die in the end because he IS a murderer and justice must be done; this should be the conclusion to Clyde's plan all along.)
7. Cut to six months later. The entire city government has been removed or resigned in disgrace. Nick is the new City Attorney.
I like this one. Although, might as well have Clyde record Nick shooting him as well with Nick ending up in prison when it's all leaked for the happiest of endings.
> Nick gets to live
No
I actually like this ending that's a great idea. No point for nick to die tho since all that Clyde did to get through to him would have been wasted. Nick must life for it to make sense. It'd be like a superhero getting a major power boost near the end of a fight then dying anyway 5m later. Lol
@Kramer
I don't completely agree with your breakdown of how the movie should have went. Most of it is good.
But Clyde shouldn't have to die. Nick made him a killer, this is all Nick's fault.
Let Clyde shoot Nick, wounding, but realizing he has been no better than a criminal. After he finds out the truth of Clyde recording the meeting, he realizes he's not worthy of the work he does. He resigns and leaves, possibly for another state and a simple life.
@Avenged110
Love your version of the ending!
Ending was bad as everyone has said...
Gerard Butler's character should have either gotten away with it... Or should have forced the 'good guys' to break the law in order to stop him hence proving his point and still winning...
The ending removed Jamie Foxx from the moral dilemma of upholding the law and letting people die or breaking the law in order to stop/kill Gerard Butler's character...
Either way, Butler's character achieved his objective.
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I prefer this ending but I hate to find it's fake where I have been trying to see the real alternate ending, if any! I guess it's my fault not to read the description first.
God I hated how SUDDENLY THEY HAD to BE FORCED to figure out the most detail plan, in the MOST convenient way, especially when the PREMISE was "he can kill you and never be in the room"
Just found this. This is how it should have gone. Thank you.
The OG ending was garbage. I prefer this. Jaime Foxx character deserved to eat dust
Afterall a good ending
Also Nick could be charged with murder knowing the bomb was moved to his cell.
He would have had an alarm system on the tunnel below the prison in case someone found it.
Yeah should of made a murky ending. He gets what he wanted but it still doesn't get his family back while the other guy walks out knowing well he agrees but still choose to do his best in the system.
Remember, Jaime Foxx has a clause in his contract that "Jaime Foxx' character should always be the hero and win."
Clyde should have just went back down the hole he came in throughthey would have thought he got blew up and he could have got away
They closed it from the other side, he had no way of getting out
Well then
@@upsideizi1427 how did he get out all the other times. i thought that he himself was the "accomplise" and that there were no other "main" accomplises.
@@BasicEndjo It's cut in this clip. In the full scene the police detective (curly haired one that was in Star Trek TNG) wedges the door closed right after Jamie Foxx closes the outer door of the cell.
the original ending was hypocritical ... rather finish movies like this ... clyde should be allowed to do whatever he chooses with those criminals (who entered his house) vs the law should follow similar principals ... why are we paying to support and subsidise these rubbish humans who mostly cause harm
Clide should have won system is corrupted
Well I definitely liked this explosion better than the one in the last ending.
Much better ending…
I can’t stand Jamie fox. I heard this movie had a different ending planned, but then he whined and cried about it until they let him have his character survive/look like the winner, even though it made no sense/ruined the ending
@Alex Yelle that is just a rumor. Jamie had no power as it was Gerard who was the producer. All that simply happened is Butler liked the Clyde character more so they switched roles nothing more.
@@charlesdoyle3630 I second this, Butler thought his own character was "monstrous" despite playing him excellently, with the fervor and gusto of someone truly died-in-the-wool fanatical. I think they struggled with the ending not because of individual issues, but because ending this movie is quite difficult when its first two acts are impeccable.
They frankly just needed 30 minutes more run time.
Jamie Fox's righteous indignation here isn't represented well enough, there's a few deleted scenes that show his perspective more, and while I'm actually "ok" with the ending it could've been so much more, instead, it ends long before it feels resolved.
Placing the bomb in Clyde's cell represents a breach of crazy amount of legality, and danger to himself and others transporting it. They could've made this much simpler by having Jamie Fox's character find the tunnel earlier, and in a panic to avoid a violent confrontation, he switches a test device with the real one BEFORE Clyde plants it. Then the explosion itself comes from the tunnel, where he might've kept the bomb closer to "tinker" with it.
I don't disagree with the ending, it's just the rest of the movie is so eloquently thought out but the ending is not.
They also had a much better narrative about the state of the justice system, and "punishment" as a model for justice they could've focused on. I think that's what really is "off" about the movie. Everyone loves Clyde's narrative paradigm, but Jamie Foxx's character should've represented an opposing ideology with redeeming qualities. Giving him more intellectual victories instead of seething negativity would've gone a long way to make him sympathetic, and the natural counterpart to Clyde.
Meanwhile Clyde's amount of screentime presents him as the main character, which puts Jamie Foxx in a supporting role. I'm not going to say they should've cut a minute of clyde's time, but they should've let this movie's length increase and develop his character, and his ideology, with the same care they put into Clyde's. Showing Nick's capability to work WITHIN the system, instead of dragging him into Clyde's game.
Essentially the ending here paints Clyde as being right, as Nick uses the same tools of murder Clyde did to enact his own personal brand of justice, instead of Nick showing a greater side.
I can barely even remember "Nicks" name, and his generic story, he comes off as a supporting character, which makes the ending disjointed.
Alternatively some of the other supporting characters could've been played up, and had the narrative about Justice being about the collaborative nature of society at large - that "truth" comes forward through collaboration with others, and that Clyde's solitude was his true weakness.
Another detail that's off is that Nick does not fight hard for Clyde's life.
If Nick instead took the tact that he'd have to kill Clyde before he hit the switch, as a lawman would have to do legally, it would've been Nick arguing more fervently for Clyde's life. Going as far as shooting Clyde to try and stop him from using the detonator would've made Nick more sympathetic, as while Clyde is a murderer and is likely to get the chair, he should work within the justice system to actually defeat Clyde, showing its merits - in this case possibly saving Clyde from himself.
Instead, Nick risks a huge explosion and uses Clyde's methods, which is ideologically bankrupt in another wise excellent screenplay.
Still, if you just imagine a few scenes relieving the narrative of the bombs transport and ethical puzzle, and then change Jamie Fox's tact slightly to be more sympathetic, as the justice system naturally is, it'd fix the whole movie.
It's just "incomplete".
@@BigMac8000 many directors and producers dont understand the importance of the conceptual battle taking place along with the actual battle. This is what makes people love anime. whether its goku fighting freeza or naruto fighting pain. these arnt simply two people punching each other. these are developed characters coming into conflict due to their ideologies along with their circumstance. The thing that makes it so engaging however is the understanding we have of these ideologies and how we not only sympathize but also empathize with them. We cheer on naruto for his optimism and his love for his family and home. He wants to create a better world. One with peace. however we also have sympathy and even empathize with pain. "Do you understand Pain a little now? If you don’t share someone’s pain you can never understand them." Pain points out we cant empathize unless we have shared pain. How can i understand your struggle if i have not struggled? Pain also wants to create a better world. One with peace. The place they differ is their methodology. While we may disagree with pains methodology we understand his ideology and we agree with portions of it. The problem is there isnt much of an ideological struggle going on. The entire force is behind butlers character. Foxs character doesnt learn much. Didnt start from a point of a conflicting ideology. He even tells butler he almost supports what he did to the murderer. Which is even demonstrated later when he murders butlers character. This would be like if naruto agreed with pain but just didnt like it was happening to him which is just a fisticuff match with no real ideological stakes. i could go on but this is pretty long lol.
@@BigMac8000 You are one well read sob.
For those of you who didn't understand the end of this movie, Clyde DID win. The moment Nick said, "I no longer make deals with murderers." Clyde became the victor. If you wanted Clyde to live, what kind of life would that have been? Everyone he loved was gone. He was ready to move on. He did what he set out to do, even if the last bomb didn't go off where it was meant to.
This ending is a whole lot better than the original because it's realistic as smart as this guy was and then he goes back to the prison after his last set up now it don't make no sense, but this ending makes way better since than the one they went with I'm just saying he's too smart to go back to the prison and then get blowed up by his own bomb come on now y'all this was all Hollywood and he worked military too and he was special ops he ain't going to go out like that IJS
This is the one thing that so pissed me off about the ending. He is supposed to be one of the smartest think tank brains, but he wouldn't have any kind of failsafe or trips. nothing when it came to his cell, the bomb especially, or his little den. Give me a break. Would have been a great movie if the ending wasn't so lame.
The good guy died on this movie
Jamie fox ruined the ending he’s such a baby
stop blaming jamie he didn't decide this ending
Much better ending than the original. Thanks for sharing. However, the perfect after credit ending would have been if Clyde did the same thing to Nick as he did to Darby!
I think there was an original ending that would've been similar to this, but when the studio double checked it or test screened it, they got worried too many people would side with Clyde. Thus, we have the crappy ending we have today. Still loved the movie despite the ending, this one is canon, thank you OP.
The ending of the original movie was dumb. Clyde made that bomb. He could simply open up the briefcase and disable it. He was the guy who made it and knew it inside and out.
how could he have open'ed it they locked it with handcuffs
@@Jay-O_Carlow Handcuffs? You really think a man with Clyde's engineering genius would even so much as blink over handcuffs?
@@gunn25 you liked your own comment lol🤦♂️🤣🤣
@@Jay-O_Carlow Always do. My insight and logic are excellent. I note you had no rebuttal to my comment but 'you liked our own comment'.
@@gunn25 🤦♂️🤣1) U liked Ur own comment AGAIN!1) its a fuckin movie 3)in real life the way ur taking it U can not think of everything all of the time,4) UR very much a narcissist,5) U will HAVE to get the last comment in when i dont care👍😂U Do!
I would have loved this ending ❤ but I also was sappy thinking 🤔 that Clyde wanted to be with his Wife and daughter again ❤😢
The reason the ending was wrong is Because the black actor didn't want the "bad guy to win" not understanding that the black lawyer was the bad guy.
Alternate ending: It's actually a prequel to Olympus Has Fallen and Jamie Foxx wants to one-up Gerald Butler and becomes president instead in White House Down
So the alternate ending is that he destroys Parliament?
this is how the movie should have ended. adding to this would be and nick's (saved best for last) family gets killed so he can feel what clyde feels and then one on one combat nick dies brutally.
Clyde wins when he forces Nick to dirty his hands beyond his conception of "justice". Now everything Nick does is a part of Clyde. The real movie is twisted enough as it is. Pales in comparison to bLoWiNg Up a bUiLdInG. Thats just destruction. Nick is an agent of Clydes Gift.
Actually no, Nick will go on believing that he's doing the right thing, that the system that he works for isn't broken. He will never understand what Clyde went through, because he will never allow himself to. All he'll see is that Clyde is the 'bad guy' who did bad things, he won't see that he did anything wrong at all. You can plainly see that in the scene where Nick repeatedly punches Clyde outside the prison gates. Clyde is trying to get him to see what's going on, but Nick is blinded by his own ignorance. Same as with the interrogation scene, where he says "If you ever lay a _finger_ on my family!". It's all about him, and that's the way it's always been. He's completely fine with Clyde getting royally fucked over, as well as letting a turd in human clothing go free and sentencing the other guy (who was just 'there' and didn't participate in any of the travesties) to die by lethal injection, just to protect his conviction record.
Like Clyde said, Nick should've brought it to trial. And after the judge threw out all that evidence Nick should've tried to get it heard in another court, stating that the judge unfairly threw out valuable evidence. Clyde's point was that Nick should've tried _something,_ instead of making a deal. And at the end, Nick never learned his lesson. Sure he said "I don't work with murderers anymore, you taught me that.", but he just said that to stick it to Clyde. You can bet your ass that Nick will make a deal with a rapist/murderer/child molester in a hot second if it saves his conviction rate. And if anything similar happens to his family, he'd be the first one to cry to the justice system to save him, and if they didn't he'd be all "This system is broken!!", completely ignoring the irony.
There should honestly have been a 2nd bomb in City Hall, wherein even though Clyde dies, he still wins somehow because he knows Nick slipped up and missed something, which will haunt Nick's dreams forever.
I think i read somewhere Jamie Foxx said hed do the film only if his character came out the winner.
Its like they tried to make a film of 'good triumphs over evil' without realising most people would side with the man wronged by the justice system.
If this story were a real one, Clyde would have definitely completed his mission successfully. No way a prosecutor would have outsmarted a highly trained tactician. Remember he killed that one guy by inventing a kevlar thread with a hightech ratchet made of carbon fibre and inserted it into bro's tie! Lol.. No way kinetic operations recon mercenary fumbles the ball at the end.
Maybe I'm going through some Mandela effect or something but i remember this movie ending with butler walking away freely
I find it funny this takes place in the sane universe as the fallen trilogy
Whatever happened to anti hero’s
Clyde was the perfect American I still don't get how that slimeball found out who he works for in the first place?
Remember guys Jaime fox wanted to win to help possibly get black panther role. It killed his chances and they would only allow him to be a villain.
Dang, dude was really pissed off with London.