@NBABY-J btw, a high 12/mid 13 second car stock isn't deadly, atleast nowadays, lots and lots of cars are much faster than the N's are, even modded. They fool alot of people because the automotive world sees the H and still don't know what they've got going on🤷♂️ The next EN WILL BE special 🏁🏁
New SXTH pump will flow enough fuel mass for 400whp (and more torque than the Sonata) but with the stock turbo there will not be enough octane to touch that number. You'd still need meth, race fuel, or octane additive to touch that number. Regardless, it should be great for the platform.
@@Hoop_23 I agree with this. It's a look only a mother could love LoL (2023) But I was ok with it because I just liked what the car had to offer. But for me I'll take the 24 over the 23 all day. The front end just looks so much better. Cleaner and not so boy racer but still super aggressive.
Man, every time I see people saying they're at 330+ on a N75 stage 2 tune I get so bummed. My Kona N on N75 stage 2 dyno'd at 317/328. It pulls no doubt but I'd be happier if the numbers were there. My wife has been driving my KN back and forth to work and she's averaging 30mpg so that's also a plus.
I was in between the 23 Electra N and the 24 Sonata N line 2.5t .. performance stock for stock was the same … but loved the bigger body sonata so I went that route.
@@Grimesitty who’s really tracking these cars . In real world situations and I had both cars without a sales representative in the car with me for about an hour each car. Sonata won my heart fir performance and looks.
@@ctcdarkness nah the sonata N line is the adult performance car lol one who don’t want a small compact economy car with a little few extra horse on paper the sonata has more powwwa buddy facts … google it hahaha
Just a question with the DCT does NGS still work with an ECU flash tune? I’m not sure if the car can be programmed for NGS to still work. Appreciate your feedback on this
I think it kills the NGS because you basically no longer need it. I honestly want to set my NGS up to when it’s pushed, the radio screen glitches and says “danger to manifold”😂😂😂😂
Thanks for the replies. It would be good to still use the big red button for something after a tune. Maybe someone will come up with something one day. Thanks for the videos @ndriverkg104 I’ve enjoyed watching your journey with the N’s and look forward to seeing future videos
@@Chr1sT0fuThat’s what they just said. It’s surprisingly common. The EN’s performance and fun are so compelling that a lot of people overlook the aesthetics
Do you know if just doing a Stage 1 will void warranty? I only want this stupid octane learning feature to be removed and that's it. (It's driving me crazy resetting randomly and having to drive out of my way everytime I fill up)
I have a sxth element intake/inlet plus an Afe scoorcher, it makes about 330 whp on the highest map. It runs a high 4 second 0-60 if it grips and a high 12 in the 1/4 mile. I want to do a few more mods to it but my wife also drives it so I can’t go crazy on it.
Super new to tuning, but curiosity question. At stage 1, are we able to beat v8's like mustang gt's , 392's etc? Have you ever done stage 1? What's the difference between stage 1 and 2? How much faster does it feel?
@@rodgerrabbit8122thats a straight up lie bro, im at 330whp and I pull about 2 cars on the R/T’s that I have raced on the highway. Im sure I would pull more from like a 20 roll but those V8’s are a whole different thing compared to our 4-bangers on the highway.
@druemarino thanks everyone! I'm asking because I'm N75 Stage 1 tuned and I'm having "issues" with partial throttle at speed where my car "misses, hesitates, stumbles, etc and my buddy and I have to figure this out because it's maddening...plus it threw a 0302 code yesterday. I cleared it and it ran fine but this "issue" is unacceptable. I feel like I might need a dyno tune, off the shelf may not be for my car but we don't know what's going on...yet. Although not an actual dyno my EN showed 295/269 w/N Performance intake and Shark Racing turbo inlet pipe & Stillen mid-pipe but with N75 Stage 1 it made 336/318 and I like THAT. I just need to know what's causing this issue, I don't wanna go back to stock🙄
Are there any standalone ecu companies that have something for the N? MaxxEcu or Haltec something like that. Id love to see one tuned with one stock and see how much power difference could be made with one vs tuned factory ECU. Then do the same with more mods untill the turbo needs an upgrade and then the standalone would probably really shine. Anyone know how much power a stock block could hold?
@kennykedits there's so many variables why a tune doesn't work...maybe they didn't follow what the tuner advised for upgrade equipment to go with the tune....I would think if they are blowing up people's engines they would be out of business....but I can't find any negative reviews....
@ndriverkg104 nice! The cops in California are really switched on with car mods. Even insurance threaten any accident is void with this kind of stuff. It's crazy..
2024 don't look better. Front still looks bad. Now it has big matte black bar going across it. Rear has a ton more black that looks way worse now. And the Black carries onto the side. The only thing the 2024s have are the flat black emblems, better looking forged wheels and the black steering wheel badge.
Not all about the numbers even at stage 2 350whp i beat multiple gti with is38s ,tpc or e30 in my elantra vs the World vids but u choose a car cause you want and like it dont be weak minded and choose over hp numbers hope u get a better understanding of cars
MK8 GTI's do not make that power. Stock turbo GTI's max out in the 370's to the wheels on e85, Dynojet numbers with STD correction factor. You're thinking about the R, or you're referencing engine horsepower.
why do people even bother with this car, i understand its a great track car but i guarantee most people tuning these cars cant afford any catastrophic failure. dont fuck with a modern car until the warranty is done with, your bank account will thank me later. hyundai doesnt exactly have a clean track record of making great performance engines
I mean considering the engine in the N model cars has been around since 2017 with very few issues, your claim is a bit baseless. Ford doesn’t have the best track record either when it comes to the Gt350 engine blocks cracking themselves while still stock. See what I did there? Took something and blew it completely out of proportion to make my argument seem better.
I completely agree, Hyundai went out of their way to severely limit the possibility of adding any sort of after-market modifications. It’s a cool regular car but anything other than that isn’t smart on this platform
Are you slow? People are pushing over 70k miles on the car tuned with no problem 😂 stop talking about the old Hyundai and get with the new. Some people still living in the past.
Great job. Ppl are getting fooled by those numbers. The way this car is engineered plus that snappy transmission. 330 whp is deadly.
Watch his RACE videos💡
@NBABY-J btw, a high 12/mid 13 second car stock isn't deadly, atleast nowadays, lots and lots of cars are much faster than the N's are, even modded.
They fool alot of people because the automotive world sees the H and still don't know what they've got going on🤷♂️
The next EN WILL BE special 🏁🏁
Nice video.
I definitely like the look of the 2024 better. Just MO
Same here by far.
After driving my manual N I would for sure recommend using normal rev match over the other 2, way smoother for everyday driving
Feels good to me
Thanks for the hate tho 😂
New SXTH pump will flow enough fuel mass for 400whp (and more torque than the Sonata) but with the stock turbo there will not be enough octane to touch that number. You'd still need meth, race fuel, or octane additive to touch that number. Regardless, it should be great for the platform.
Agreed I think my 23 looks more aggressive and more unique over the 24th. Also the back end of 24 is definitely significantly worse
24 looks better in every single way. You are allowed to like yours still
@@Hoop_23 I agree with this. It's a look only a mother could love LoL (2023) But I was ok with it because I just liked what the car had to offer. But for me I'll take the 24 over the 23 all day. The front end just looks so much better. Cleaner and not so boy racer but still super aggressive.
@@georgevigil7001i like the look of both, but do agree with the 24 being “grown up”. It’s nice and modern looking, I have one on order. Can’t wait!
Man, every time I see people saying they're at 330+ on a N75 stage 2 tune I get so bummed. My Kona N on N75 stage 2 dyno'd at 317/328. It pulls no doubt but I'd be happier if the numbers were there. My wife has been driving my KN back and forth to work and she's averaging 30mpg so that's also a plus.
What mods did you have
@@ndriverkg104hr9 plugs, hpfp, k&n drop in air filter, res delete.
All dynos read different.
@ndriverkg104 you should upload a video on how you wrapped the car yourself if you took any fotage😂😭
Hey again Mike. How’s your fuel quality there ? That makes a big difference
I don't know what they were thinking with that lower rear. Why not create a rear diffuser similar to the Integra type S, which EVERYONE loves!
I also got a kirby hanging from my mirrior, its a little keychain with a blue kirby that says ggez that goes with my intense blue 24
I was in between the 23 Electra N and the 24 Sonata N line 2.5t .. performance stock for stock was the same … but loved the bigger body sonata so I went that route.
They're not the same performance wise though... same power maybe but no E-lsd means the sonata would lose through the corners for sure
@@Grimesitty who’s really tracking these cars . In real world situations and I had both cars without a sales representative in the car with me for about an hour each car. Sonata won my heart fir performance and looks.
@@nickclashez people who own the N series are - that's my point
@@nickclashezthe SN-L is not as good of a performance car. You can tell yourself it is all you want but that’s just coping for the obvious LOL
@@ctcdarkness nah the sonata N line is the adult performance car lol one who don’t want a small compact economy car with a little few extra horse on paper the sonata has more powwwa buddy facts … google it hahaha
@ndriverkg104 Can you do a video on the launch control with the MT not many videos out there showing the launches on them
Sweet been trying to find one in New Jersey but really no luck. I only found a black one !??
lol that wheelhop is something
Yeah it wasn’t made with the thought of going all out just budget fun car. I see people replace the mounts soon as they get em
Just a question with the DCT does NGS still work with an ECU flash tune? I’m not sure if the car can be programmed for NGS to still work. Appreciate your feedback on this
I think it kills the NGS because you basically no longer need it. I honestly want to set my NGS up to when it’s pushed, the radio screen glitches and says “danger to manifold”😂😂😂😂
It will still rev out a tad bit longer but i dont think the hp jump is there any longer
Thanks for the replies. It would be good to still use the big red button for something after a tune. Maybe someone will come up with something one day. Thanks for the videos @ndriverkg104 I’ve enjoyed watching your journey with the N’s and look forward to seeing future videos
If they could set it up where it activated the wmi setup that would be sick!
2024 looks way better. I've seen it in person. The pre facelift front looks ugly and i own one.
you think your own car looks ugly?
@@Chr1sT0fuThat’s what they just said. It’s surprisingly common. The EN’s performance and fun are so compelling that a lot of people overlook the aesthetics
The 24 looks like a honda to me.
"if you want to be as quiet as a prius put it in comfort"
Do you know if just doing a Stage 1 will void warranty? I only want this stupid octane learning feature to be removed and that's it. (It's driving me crazy resetting randomly and having to drive out of my way everytime I fill up)
No tune will void your warranty you can just switch your stock ecu and if u get ek1 put stock map on
I have a sxth element intake/inlet plus an Afe scoorcher, it makes about 330 whp on the highest map. It runs a high 4 second 0-60 if it grips and a high 12 in the 1/4 mile. I want to do a few more mods to it but my wife also drives it so I can’t go crazy on it.
Thats pretty good considering its a piggyback forsure
Super new to tuning, but curiosity question. At stage 1, are we able to beat v8's like mustang gt's , 392's etc? Have you ever done stage 1? What's the difference between stage 1 and 2? How much faster does it feel?
My stock N already beats 5.0s
To be on part with most 5.0s and 392 you will need atleast stage 2 but can do well with stage 1 but you have to brake boost
@@ndriverkg104 Interesting that about 20 hp makes that much difference. How close would it be stage 1? They take top end because they have more hp?
@rodgerrabbit8122 you're dreaming. 😂
@@rodgerrabbit8122thats a straight up lie bro, im at 330whp and I pull about 2 cars on the R/T’s that I have raced on the highway. Im sure I would pull more from like a 20 roll but those V8’s are a whole different thing compared to our 4-bangers on the highway.
hi about octane learning... do you still have to do octane learning after you put the tune?
No
Better if u do
What tune would yall recommend? I'm looking more for on the reliability side
Sxth is more conservative N75 is conservative but a bit more agressive
I think I’d like it if it could reach 350 ish for a good price.
I have the same radar detector as you. The speakers on mine stopped working, what do you recommend I do to fix it?
KG...you mentioned spark plugs for Stage 2, do you think a colder plug isn't needed on Stage 1🤷♂️
you need them for stage one
@@cinadrue You don't need them, but they are recommended. If you keep the stock plugs you will have to close the gap.
I dont think so i didnt back when i did stage 1 but its a good insurance
@@ndriverkg104 yeah its a high recommendation on my vn i went stage 1 which is lower boost than en and had fuel cuts until i got colder plugs
@druemarino thanks everyone! I'm asking because I'm N75 Stage 1 tuned and I'm having "issues" with partial throttle at speed where my car "misses, hesitates, stumbles, etc and my buddy and I have to figure this out because it's maddening...plus it threw a 0302 code yesterday. I cleared it and it ran fine but this "issue" is unacceptable.
I feel like I might need a dyno tune, off the shelf may not be for my car but we don't know what's going on...yet.
Although not an actual dyno my EN showed 295/269 w/N Performance intake and Shark Racing turbo inlet pipe & Stillen mid-pipe but with N75 Stage 1 it made 336/318 and I like THAT. I just need to know what's causing this issue, I don't wanna go back to stock🙄
What downpipe do you have and would you recommend that one
Hey man, I have a 23 Elantra n dct, what was the n75 tune you had on your dct? I’m trying to get everything out of mine that I can
whats the sonata hpfp part number.. please ?
Where at in jersey u from I’m from south Jersey
Bring the sonata N line guy on to open up your viewers
24's still look like smooth spongebob
Are there any standalone ecu companies that have something for the N? MaxxEcu or Haltec something like that.
Id love to see one tuned with one stock and see how much power difference could be made with one vs tuned factory ECU.
Then do the same with more mods untill the turbo needs an upgrade and then the standalone would probably really shine.
Anyone know how much power a stock block could hold?
In Puerto Rico there is like 2 Veloster N running fueltech ECU
i ORDERED THE lap3 TUNE 1.5...Does anyone use this tuner?
Everyone goes n75 for a reason, support and reliability. Everyone I knew who had LAP has all switched away from it
@kennykedits there's so many variables why a tune doesn't work...maybe they didn't follow what the tuner advised for upgrade equipment to go with the tune....I would think if they are blowing up people's engines they would be out of business....but I can't find any negative reviews....
@ejaysgarage8073 You do you, I did my research and n75 came on top, sxth second, Lap3 just hides everything and heard support is crap
Catless downpipe isnt street legal though. 😮
The pops arent either 😂
@ndriverkg104 nice! The cops in California are really switched on with car mods. Even insurance threaten any accident is void with this kind of stuff. It's crazy..
@@ndriverkg104is your car stinky?
who ur turner i need that help
N75
N75motorsports
Do you have exhaust mods in this video? That exhaust is a little obnoxious to listen to imo for a DD
Ah, catless DP.
Making me wanna jump ship lol
come join the dark side brother
Looks are subjective. IMOP 2024 they look much, much better. Where you sit has everything to do with where you stand. Triple
Thats why i said my opinion some like some dont everyone has a opinion i understand that
2024 don't look better. Front still looks bad. Now it has big matte black bar going across it. Rear has a ton more black that looks way worse now. And the Black carries onto the side. The only thing the 2024s have are the flat black emblems, better looking forged wheels and the black steering wheel badge.
@@ndriverkg104 Based by your ownpoll , (others) by a large margin agreed.
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Those numbers are way low. Mk8 gti's make high 300 to low 400whp on stage 2. My decision to not get the elantra is clear as day now
Not all about the numbers even at stage 2 350whp i beat multiple gti with is38s ,tpc or e30 in my elantra vs the World vids but u choose a car cause you want and like it dont be weak minded and choose over hp numbers hope u get a better understanding of cars
Great informational video, my guy. 22 is a mean looking car. 24 nice looking car. I vote for mean any day.
The golf r with the continental turbo maybe, but not the garrett that comes with the gti.
MK8 GTI's do not make that power. Stock turbo GTI's max out in the 370's to the wheels on e85, Dynojet numbers with STD correction factor. You're thinking about the R, or you're referencing engine horsepower.
mk8 can handle e85 without any mods too
why do people even bother with this car, i understand its a great track car but i guarantee most people tuning these cars cant afford any catastrophic failure. dont fuck with a modern car until the warranty is done with, your bank account will thank me later. hyundai doesnt exactly have a clean track record of making great performance engines
this is an old and tired argument, just stfu man and say youre jealous lmao
I mean considering the engine in the N model cars has been around since 2017 with very few issues, your claim is a bit baseless. Ford doesn’t have the best track record either when it comes to the Gt350 engine blocks cracking themselves while still stock. See what I did there? Took something and blew it completely out of proportion to make my argument seem better.
Why bother with it? Because we fckin can😎. Best sounding 4banger out currently.
I completely agree, Hyundai went out of their way to severely limit the possibility of adding any sort of after-market modifications. It’s a cool regular car but anything other than that isn’t smart on this platform
Are you slow? People are pushing over 70k miles on the car tuned with no problem 😂 stop talking about the old Hyundai and get with the new. Some people still living in the past.