What Makes a Great Werewolf?
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I wanted to explore what makes a great Werewolf (which happens to be my favourite movie monster). So sit back, relax, and beware the moon...
Films included in order of appearance:
Werewolf of London
Late Phases
Bad Moon
Curse of the Werewolf
Animal
Let the Right One In
Frankenstein
Dawn of the Dead
Cursed
The Wolf Man
Monster Squad
Wolf
Scooby Doo and the Reluctant Werewolf
Trick 'R' Treat
Dog Soldiers
WolfCop
Goosebumps
Werewolf: The Beast Among Us
American Werewolf in London
Dracula
Zombie Flesh Eaters
Wolves
The Howling
Red Riding Hood
Underworld
Teen Wolf
Wolven
The Wolfman
Hemlock Grove
Ginger Snaps 2
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Ginger Snaps
Howl
Silver Bullet
Van Helsing
Underworld: Awakening
Underworld: Rise of the Lycans
Jaws
The Company of Wolves
The Twilight Saga: New Moon
Abbot & Costello Meet Frankenstein
The Howling Reborn
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You had this almost perfect except for one very important thing that you got wrong. You said that the reason that they use CGI instead of practical for transformations is that it is "relatively affordable post-production work" . This is wrong. CGI costs 4 to 5 times more than practical effects work, in every case.
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The Wolf of Wall Street was the worst werewolf movie I've ever seen.
After the first hour, I thought it was great and that it would be a superb reveal to see who the werewolf actually was.
After the second hour, I was increasingly sceptical that there was actually going to be a werewolf in the film at all.
The best comments never get the recognition they deserve.
I feel the same. I usually root for the monster too, i was hoping that they were really gonna let us see a werewolf fuck up a bunch of Wall Street dickheads
They took the 'less is more' thing too far in never actually showing the werewolf.
LMAO!!
but Jordan is an animal.....just of the party variety not a literal shape shifting killing machine drugs,hookers,booze,drugs,more drugs,even more drugs,a fuckton of drugs that guy runs pretty fucking wild while he never transforms and mauls someone it wouldn't be much of a stretch to call him an animal
The werewolves from Van Helsing were always one of my favorites. I also think the werewolves from Love Death and Robot were really awesome. So powerful and vicious. I especially liked how the enemy werewolves took advantage of the protagonists vulnerability during mid transformation. Really dynamic.
Edit: I meant the movie starring Hugh Jackman. Not the show.
That short film really deserve a whole movie, it would make a great war and werewolf movie
Facts
Van Helsing werewolves... no, just no... second choice, sure but only because the whole ep is in CGI.
Absolutely agree. I'ev watched that episode 5 times, only because we are so starved for quality werewolf films, and even though it was full CG it was still 10 times better than most movies that have come out in recent years.
Which can helsing The One With Both The Werewolf And Vamp Or The Netflix Series
I think Van Helsing had my favorite portrayal of a Werewolf. They were massive, strong, agile, and overall formidable even to Dracula
Same
"Igor....why do you torment him so?"
I agree, just kinda wish he had a tail, though.
What I really love about the werewolves in Van Helsing is how every werewolf you see in the movie is unique to their character
Naff ears. Nothing like a dog's or a wolf's. That's always put me off the Van Helsing werewolves.
“American Werewolf In London” and “The Howling” are my favorite werewolf films!🐺
Agreed! I've yet to see any movie with the impact for a werewolf that those movies had.
Same
Silver bullet is a classic too I loved it
I agree
Those conversions are scary
Yeah. They're probably the best 2. If the Howling managed to pull off a better transformation scene it would win. I love others, like Dog Soldiers, but it doesn't touch the quality of the other 2. Underworld. Ginger Snaps. Good, but still not as effective. It's unbelievable that nobody has managed to beat American Werewolf's transformation. And that fucker is TERRIFYING.
I love the implied acknowledgement that Remus Lupin's werewolf form is a great werewolf bc it really is. As a kid, even Val Helsing's werewolf- which is just excellent- didn't scare me as much as his did. It's something about the lithe, gaunt, gaping thing slowly loping towards you that really gets me. The impression of vulnerability, the hope. You look at it and you think, "if only I was _enough,_ then I could beat this weak, whining thing. I could win," but it's only a trick and that the sniveling thing that looked so weak and vulnerable- you can see how much it wants you dead, how much _it_ wants to kill _you._ You have to stare it down, realize the helplessness of your situation, and know that without outside intervention, you're shredded flesh. The big werewolves in Val Helsing and Dog Soldiers are wonderful, but not once in looking at them do you get the impression that you're making it out of this, the terror is present, but resigned. They're hulking and snarling and you know there's no way you, the audience member, could ever beat them, even if you think of a brilliant plan and correct the character in your head, deep inside you know you can't. I think that trick, the way the werewolf in Prisoner of Azkaban is so thin and long and sickly, but overwhelmingly fast and brutal, that still makes it the scariest werewolf on screen to me today.
I agree entirely with your stance on CG wolves, but I have a soft spot for Van Helsing's werewolf and Lupin from Harry Potter. Lupin looks terrifying and that chase later in the film was done really well. It still freaks me out. And Van Helsing just looks fucking awesome.
Jarl Adolf Lupin has the most interesting design because of how skinny and sickly it looks. That design has stuck in my head for so long because it stood out so much
slayertakim1 You just put into words, better than I could, why I find him so terrifying. I never read the books, but one of my disappointments with the films is that we never saw Lupin transform again. Hell, we barely even see human Lupin after that movie. Shame. That canine Gollum looking fuck was probably my favourite thing to come of that franchise.
Transformations like the Van Helsing werewolves was alway visually and metaphorically impressive to me. The beast with literally rises to the surface, ripping and tearing away the rational human being and overpowering it with is savage instinct and primal hunger and brutal strength. And once a werewolf has transformed it is totally uncontrollable.
Van Helsing's werewolf is the one all werewolves should be judged by. It's absolute perfection.
Exactly.
One of my favorite werewolf is from Van Helsing (with Hugh Jackman). The transformation looked truly horrifying and painful, the speed and ferocity of them in the film was great and everyone in the film seemed to be really scared of them when they fought.
bertkrawl yes. I think they got it right with them in Van Helsing for sure
100% agreed
I also really enjoyed that transformation scene when that one guy starts crawling backwards up the wall. The werewolf was just as horrified to be transforming as the sister was to see him transform, the process looked painful and uncomfortable, and it showed him going from a caring brother to a ferocious mindless beast.
Totally down with that, and the fact that when you see them each werewolf is unique in color and appearance with one looking sickly and unwell while Van Helsing when he turns is strong, powerful and absolutely vicious. My personal fave scene is where he scrapes his claws against the stone wall to taunt Dracula and sparks come off. It also plays on that whole "Vampires and Werewolves do not get along" trope that has been around for awhile.
The Van Hellsing movie with Hugh Jackman has the best and most awesome werewolves, in my opinion.
They look how I imagine a werewolf would look. Big, fast, fierce and dangerous
I AGREE. wish they would do something similar with updated effects
@@dantan1249 Netflix's recent show "the order" has the best looking werewolves in recent memory and the story behind them is pretty damn different
Weirdly enough, some people that claim to have seen one in real life say they look like the Van Helsing ones.
van hellsing isnt a werwolf movie.
@@Rene9u But there are werewolves in it
I recently saw the series Love, Death + Robots and they feature werewolves in their episode Shape-Shifters. This, to me, was one of the most satisfying, brilliant portrayals of werewolves on screen. I honestly enjoyed every second of it. From the change from man to beast, to the fight sequences, to the actual look of the werewolves. Beautifully done!
Couldn't agree more - they went hard when making that episode, as with everything else in LD&R. Even though the werewolves in Shape-Shifters didn't get a large amount of screen time, the fact they filled a mere 17 minutes with rich, creative storytelling, stunning visual effects and intense emotional weight is something to applaud. It was said best in an article I read: LD&R is a brilliant over-correction for the comparable lack of impressive Western animation as opposed to that in the East, and it did such a good job it even did the werewolf subgenre - something I've been invested in ever since Dr. Who aired its episode 'Tooth and Claw' in 2006 - proud in the process. I have immense respect for Love, Death and Robots. Blur Studios and Netflix have knocked it out of the park!
When it comes to Werewolves I tend to think of them in a similar light to the Hulk. Specifically the first time he transforms in the Avengers. As a viewer, you know a Transformation is inevitable. You know they're going to lose control and kill everything. That's what I liked about the Avengers Transformation. His Hulk form is presented in a way that makes us understand why not only Bruce, but everyone else fears the monster within. The Hulk's entrance is terrifying. And that's the treatment I love seeing in Werewolves. Let us see how it effects the person and how they deal with controlling it.
"Dog Soldiers" is probably my favorite Werewolf film. Lots of love for the American in London (and even its sequel), and the Howling, but Dog Soldiers holds a special place for me.
I just adore Dog Soldiers so much. Big film for me growing up. The idea of weird monsters in the woods near where I grew up was never far from mind.
I love Werewolfs and Dog Soldiers is also my favorite one.Sadly good and fun Creature Horror, like Deep Rising, Dog Soldiers, Feast or The Descent are so rare nowdays.
Same.
Same for me too :)
Ginger snaps? I think that’s what it’s called. Wasn’t too bad
There’s nothing worse than a breathtaking transformation scene followed by a terrible (or worse) laughable werewolf.
the vice versa 50/50
good transformation bad wolf
bad transformation good wolf
where is the good tf good wolf smh
@@lonecourierjoeyv2133 American Werewolf in London
I think Harry Potter fits that. The transformation is good, I like the focus on the full moon, the fear in Lupin's face, the pupil dilation, the claws growing and the spine breaking through his clothes. But the wolf itself isn't good, looking weak, emaciated, and bald.
I think Skyrim is the best we've had to match good design with good transformation. Van Helsing has a good design, but the transformation is too rapid.
lonecourierjoeyV2 check death love and robots werewolves
Kavin Sivakumar the robotics in it were too fake.. even its look
Unpopular opinion, but my favorite werewolf movie is The Wolfman (2010). The movie aspired to be much more than a monster movie, rather a more character-based drama on cycles of abuse, honesty, societal racial prejudices, ableism in mental institutions, mental illness and how different people deal with personal grief. It's a great film that uses werewolves as an allegory to talk about much deeper, darker and more real themes, which is the best kind of werewolf film for me. There is a lot of nuance to the acting performances and depth to the 3 main characters and their relationships with one another and I can easily see the film becoming a cult classic over the years. And the cinematography looks like something out of a Monet painting.
I actually liked the movie. The only thing that ruined it for me was the Anthony Hopkins werewolf at the end. That looked stupid could have been done better by using a different actor as the werewolf.
It's my favorite, too. The transformation scene at the asylum is one of my favorite scenes in any movie. "I will kill ALL of you!"
yes! i love that movie too, it's not just a story about a monster going around killing people, it's more about the characters, it makes you feel everything, fear, worry when it's full moon, the actors and the soundtrack are great too!
TheMovieDoctorful that was a F AWESOME MOVIE AND WEREWOLF. i'm all about AWIL and HOWLING but that was done to perfect as well.
"The Wolf Man" (1941) is my favorite because it focuses on the unfortunate title character. Lon Chaney's character was a victim of circumstances, a man cursed through no fault of his own. Whatever technological merits other werewolf films have, they lack an essential element if the werewolf is not a character of pity.
dog soldiers is hands-down the best Werewolf movie I've seen in a long, long time.
I fully agree
This movie needs more recognition. The sheer horror of being in the farm house that father time has forgotten with those beasts is so terrifying.
Dog soldiers scared the hell outa me, and i was 24 when i saw it. They just looked so dang real
Dog Soldiers is the best werewolf movie in my opinion, Neil Marshall did a great job balancing the horror and action in that movie!
What is truly sad is how werewolves are becoming furry territory and people can feel it. They no longer see werewolves as respectful or fearful horror icons but more of a nuissance associated with "oh, those furry things "
To be fair I think there is genuinely a lot of overlap in the idea of a furry and werewolves. Not to say it’s not annoying seeing a beast reduced to something like that but it’s not an unthinkable evolution if you look at what a werewolf can represent
I wouldn’t exactly call myself the UWU in your face furry I just love the expressionism that comes with anthro characters. I prefers the more feral ones which is from able why i love the idea of werewolves. For a monster who isn’t controllable they show so much emotion. Harry potters a good example because you can see the sadness in Remus’ eyes once it’s done. The exhaustion from all your body changing in a way that naturally would take thousands of years really shows. Same with a lot of the others the pain of the characters and their reactions is what really sells it to me much more that all the furry ‘oh no what is happening to my ears UwU I’m now a cute little baby bunny now’ oh wow I wrote a lot sorry if you had to read all that 😅 either way I’m slowly falling out of the furry fandom I just enjoy the look of the more old fashioned anthro characters.
You're damn right, but this happens not only with werewolves but all monsters in general, they are simply denying that those monsters are evil and vicious and making them as understandable or have something good at them.
Also the "werewolf true mate" type of DomXSub romance story is very popular right now. I always thought Werewolves are supposed to be this humanoid and wolf hybrid psychotic murderer instead of some horny muscled dudes who's always half naked and somehow can turn into a direwolf.
Unpopular opinion:We need a werewolf version of The Lost Boys.
van hellsing is the best.....the werewolf had a great muscular body (human like) and an awesome wolf head.......very very cool..... tall and badass...looked like the king of all werewolfs......i wouldnt mind being in that form all the time.....
Sid Thevar was it a CGI werewolf?
@@randyacuna3248 In few words, Val Helsing (2008) is a CGI monster film, don't know why the people likes it that much, even the story is pretty generic.
Do you know "Werewolf: The Apocalypse"? It's not a film, nor a TV series, but, they have that kind of werewolves way before Van Helsing did it, that's an tabletop RPG from 1992 and I'm sure they took the idea from there for the design of their werewolf.
Maybe.. but the tabletop one is WAY different, more along the line of voluntary shapeshifters with real anger issues associated with a hybrid form than the hellsing werewolves that are still only here when a full moon pops up :p
its modeled after anubis
"You either embrace the beast within or get consumed by it..... your choice"
I embrace it. 🐺
I’m scared to let the beast take over
Facts I'm looking into spells to transform
@@ghost-ei9jj you know there is a potion that give me the skill to embrace and tame the beast within me, the potion is called Coffee and its 100% effective.
@@DarkMegaPlague I'm trying to become a were wolf
Wolfman 2010 looked great. Runs on 2 and 4 legs, Wide chest, Fast af, Practical most of the time, and looked like a proper modern version of the classic Wolfman (look at his face)
It is the best werewolf movie yet.
KevWebsz I loved that movie
but can it take a silver dildo?
Gotta give it to Hugh Jackmans Van Helsing - I've never seen a better representation of a Werewolf.
I'd say American Werewolf In London is by far better, the transformation and the effects of van helsing doesn't stand the test of time that well, but it's still incredibly good for being a 2004 movie
Idk, the ears were a bit much for me, I’d say the Lycans from underworld were the best
Dharzjinion I agree with you I don’t go for the transformation effect I usually just go for what the werewolf looks like not how long the transformation takes but that’s just my opinion
Cgi crap
I think werewolf are so freaking cool what's more awesome is if the make freaking werewolve video games because is so cool to play as werewolve
For me the design is one of the hardest things to get right. It either looks too cool and loses the fear factor or it is so creepy and unnatural that you can’t even recognise it as a werewolf
One thing I wanted to make known is that the characters in Twilight are not really werewolves. They are really more shapeshifters that don't really have any of the traits of a werewolf (such as transforming during the full moon, having a weakness to silver, and being able to turn others into werewolves).
Finally, someone who gets it. Jacob even states during their walk on the beach in New Moon that they are NOT werewolves, and are often mistaken for them.
I'm glad this is the case, because I prefer the animalistic, human-like werewolves, but I'm also irritated because the label of "werewolf" was STILL slapped onto Twilight's shapeshifters, thus ruining both.
Yeah and I’m pretty sure there’s a paragraph in one of the books that says the Vampires hunted down the last of the werewolf’s a long time ago
+Ameliano Vallerga You said it. Besides..there is already a actual giant-wolf werewolf in a movie called Red Riding Hood (2011) that does better than Twilight did with their giant shapeshifter wolves. Here is a video comparing the two.. th-cam.com/video/KracyHJNsuI/w-d-xo.html
+Shawn Fulford I hope that isn't the case. I hope that werewolves were never a part of the Twilight world to begin with.
@@Mister_Cool The wolf in RRH reminds me of Fenrir from Norse myth
My personal favorite movie werewolf s Remus Lupin. His transformation looked painful and terrifying, and he looked genuinely scared when he started to transform. It's a very deep character whose biggest fear is his lycanthropy. I love the design of the werewolf too, the skinny and sickly looking design works perfectly with what werewolves symbolize in that universe, which is an untreatable sickness that people fear and try to stay away from. The fact that he was still very dangerous and scary used to terrify me when I was younger
I agree, (P.S. Big Potterhead.)
It's just horrible looking imo
@@charlesdoyle3630 Well, your kind of right, but it seems a tad bit more organic then the others.
@@bluearrow1103 Don't get me wrong. Love the HP books. But in most forms of media they have lost the luster and mysticism that made them so interesting. As someone who is writing a trilogy on Werewolves nothing special about them now a days. And in this particular case it is a poor representation of. Where is the sense of mysticism and sense of supernatural that used to be prevalant in. Notice I said werewolf and not wolfman. Nor the supposed representation that is passed off in shows like Bitten and etc. Or movies like Red Riding Hood
@@charlesdoyle3630 You are right about that.
THE OG WolfMan, Amercian Werewolf in London, and the Babes from Trick R Treat will always be my favorites :D
Man, i see you everywhere.
Being human always had some of my favourite transformation scenes but Harry Potter had by far one of the best werewolves I've ever seen, no stupid muscular arms or insane amount of fur, instead it had long narrow limbs like a wolf and small patches of almost human hair that gave it a horrifying appearance that screamed RUN!
I love An American Werewolf in London and Dog Soldiers.
The American werewolf doesn’t scare me but the ones in Dog Soldiers scares me to death...
Try watching both before going camping. I can guarantee you it will make you freak out at least once or twice.
I did both before going hiking in the Scottish highlands for a month (which is actually where dog soldiers is set/shot) and had some moments where I was convinced my tent zip was going to start slowing going up.
Definitely the howl on American Werewolf was awesome!
I'd love to see an animated werewolf movie. A talented animator could do an amazing transformation scene.
I’d say Van Helsing did it very well. Even thought it’s a bit animated it’s gives you that primal badass beast feeling
I even made my D&D Deathknight a Lycan and he actually looks like Van Helsings Werewolf
Big black fur massive claws and jaw.
Van Hellsing is an underrated movie.
I just watched it again after years (about 1 week ago). It was because I accidently saw a Van Helsing clip on youtube. When I was so young I thought it was a good movie and very scary. Now I grew up and think it's bad as a movie stand point.
I think the plot seems good but was executed poorly. So many good material like Frankenstein, connection between Dracula and Van Helsing, Dracula purposes. However, much more thing do not make sense and ton of tons of tons plot holes that I don't even bother typing here. While I was re-watching this weeks ago, I kept telling myself "How did I like this or this back then".
However, I still very like the werewolf CGI. It is awesome, threatening and very good. Dracula probably the best part of the movie, he owned every scenes he was in. He look cool, act like a boss, talk and move like a boss as he should be. They hided the vampire form so well in the first half and it actually made him better and more scary. Then you saw it and disappointed (even as a kid I was very let down for that). If only they could make it as good as werewolf CGI. Even when I was a kid I was scared of his human form more than his vampire form. Then only very few action scenes are good. Most of them do not make sense but still very entertaining.
It is not underrated. It's just a bad movie but not as bad as people say it is. It has good chemistry between Van Helsing and his side kick, few but good humor, good werewolf CGi and very good Dracula performance. However I still like it for some reasons.
I love that fight with Dracula
It's a terrible but highly entertaining movie and I honestly prefer it for its treatment Frankenstein's monster than anything else. I found the werewolves great at the beginning and boring by the end.
+John W
yeah no that was still a mid tier werewolf,they are suppose to be fast and strong,its the flexibility of a human combined with the speed of a wolf,there is no room for being slow there
only the werewolfs look good in that movie
My favorite werewolf ever in the movie is lupin from harry potter
i love how the captured the idea of lycanthropy as a sickness into the design of lupins werewolf form, making it look skinny and sickly but, at the same time it stills looks like a werewolf and is very badass
I can see how you would _want_ a werewolf transformation to take a while, so that you really appreciate how unnatural it is and where it falls on the ever-unclear pain/pleasure scale (because seriously, I can imagine a couple of werewolf movies going full-on sensual with the shifts, as well as the more common agony). However, I think there's a point where it goes on for too long and my suspension of disbelief breaks down - not for the werewolf, but for any characters watching. How long are they going to stand there staring while this person turns into a bloodthirsty beast? Run, or attack, while they're still mid-shift and not as dangerous!
Van Helsing has the best Wwolf to me.... just looks amazing
yup
Moangus PIckard I agree it's one of the best but I think they could done without the skin falling off and the transformation was just too instantaneous. Just my opinion
@@rbname7318 it was an action movie so i let it slide. But from standpoint of just the looks, its tbe best. But i do agree with you
It's always interesting to me how many people find the werewolves from Van Helsing to be the best live-action depiction of werewolves. I feel the same way about Van Helsing, myself.
However, for some reason, the werewolves from Van Helsing don't make it on that many ''Best werewolves''-lists(wrongly so, in my opinion).
I plan to write a graphic novel about werewolves and I'm going to tell the artist that I want the werewolves to look as close as possible to the werewolves from Van Helsing without it looking like we're ripping off Van Helsing. The werewolves from Van Helsing are just so perfectly in sync with how I envision an werewolf that I just can't picture doing a comic book about werewolves and not using Van Helsing as an influence.
@@JR-ju3kj exactly.
For me the best CG transformation goes to Prisoner of Azkaban. I always loose my shit when watching it. In my mind it's just as scary as when I've seen it for the first time. The editing is fantastic - the way the camera shakes slightly when the full moon comes fills the shot always gives me that nightmarish feeling of fear. Maybe it's just me.
Yeah
Lupin is one of my favorite werewolf designs it captures the unnatural "wrongness" really well and it fits the story (The plot frames lycanthropy as a sickness and we are supposed to pity lupin, so the sickly hunched over design works well).
It's also one of the better CG werewolfs, probably because it was not done to cut corners but to better realize the director's vision (it was supposed to be pratical but the design did not work well with suits.)
Yo that thing needed to eat like 50 burgers and 20 virgin maidens to be scary to me
Probably just you. I thought that thing was a pathetic excuse for a werewolf.
Lupin looked like a werewolf from an alien planet inhabited by the greys. Werewolves are one of my fave monsters. The CG of that movie was terrible! I enjoyed the movie, but I lose my bleep because of how awful I feel it is. Fluffy from the first movie was awful CG as well.
There is nothing frightening about a starved werewolf design rendered in poor quality CG. Looked like an anorexic werewolf!
I think 'The Order 1886' did werewolves extremely well, regardless of the quality of other aspects of that game. They modelled the actual morphological changes that happened in the transformations and they are undeniably very impressive.
I agree completely. I have played the game twice now just for the werewolves. I love how they are done and this should be the blue print for future lycan movies. I love how the newer more feral werewolves are more animal like and walk on all fours where the "elders" or the higher werewolves are taller and are bipedal and are intelligent and can even talk. They are also more human looking the older they are which suggests they get smarter and more powerful over time. If you go to any post on the game devs FB posts or Twitter the comments are full of people begging for a sequel to that game.
It's a shame you only fight two of them in the entire game in what are basically just glorified QTE segments. The Order had so many interesting ideas, but the execution was just incredibly scripted and bland.
I agree there was a lot of wasted potential but from what I can gather it was the restrictions placed on Ready at Dawn by Sony. Interviews with the devs say that there is a lot of lore in The Order universe that could fill multiple games, unfortunately Sony have them by the balls and won't approve a sequel or a prequel. Bastards. My favourite part was the cinematic battle between the elder half breed and Gallahad. When you have to shoot it when it pounces at you and it scurries off. It was short lived but if they filled the game with segments like that instead of those horrendous QTE events, the game would be really something special and scary.
I don’t care! My #1 Werewolf movie is Shaggy the Reluctant Werewolf ;)
Mine is Scott mccall
Rome N you mean ssj4 shaggy?
Mine is The Boy Who Cried Werewolf.
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Ranking every on-screen werewolf:
Werewolf Of London:B-
The Wolf Man:B+
Curse Of The Werewolf:C+
The Howling:A+
An American Werewolf In London:A+
Wolfen:D-
The Company Of Wolves:D-
Teen Wolf:C-
Silver Bullet:B-
Monster Squad:B+
Wolf:C+
Bad Moon:A-
Ginger Snaps:A+
Dog Soldiers:A+
Underworld(film series):A+
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban:B-
Van Helsing:B-
Cursed:B-
Blood & Chocolate:D-
Trick R Treat:B-
Twilight saga:F
Never Cry Werewolf:A-
Vampire Diaries:F
The Wolfman(remake):A+
Teen Wolf(tv show):F
Being Human:A+
Red Riding Hood:F
Good so far?
What do you think about the werewolves in the netflix series "love,death,and robots"?
I absolutely loved them.
**SPOILER*(kinda)*
Poor Sobieski😭
I was down with the concept but I thought the execution story-wise was lacking.
Perhaps the worst episode in the series. All I care for is the story and the characters, if these are not well developed and interesting, it ruins all the rest for me.
That short film deserves a whole movie
Van Hellsing my favorite werewolf version.
unfotunate
I love that movie. It’s so much better than twilight. Which I’m not a fan of by the way.
CGI garbage. Good movie, but cartoonish looking werewolf and true form Dracula
@@bazookajoe6133 2004 son wtf you think
Harry Potter had a solid werewolf transformation but the final form wasn’t good
Zigor Campos McGregor I personally like the final form. I think that must like an American Werewolf in London’s design, it’s different.
I liked the design. It’s different. Not like the normal “muscled hart beast”. Also Lupin is one of my favorite characters, so that may make me a bit biased 😅
I actually really loved Lupin's final wolf form because it so well embodied what being a werewolf actually meant, how it actually effects the victim. In Rowling's universe, being a werewolf is truly an *illness*. Not only are they feared and looked down on in society, but the sickness itself wreaks havoc on the victims health and body. It wears them down, weakens them, especially when the person has had the illness since childhood and they have had to go through the change every month for 20+ years. It makes total sense that Lupin wouldn't be this strong, fierce, healthy wolf. He was sickly in human form, so he was just as sickly in wolf form.
I also really love it for how different it is from the usual werewolf we see in cinema. We, as the audience, hear Hermione say he's a werewolf, and our minds automatically go to this image of a huge, hairy beast that we've seen so many times. But then, when he actually transforms, it goes so hard against our expectations that it's honestly chilling. It's almost like we're unsure, at first, whether to even be afraid or not, which of course then causes us to be even more scared when it shows that he truly is a serious danger.
that looks like a giant rat. XD
@@user-sp2jg9rx8r Have you ever shaved a dog?
"Wolfman's got Nards!" Immediate uncontrollable laughter...
I will point out that the Werewolves in Twilight aren't actually werewolves. Their Skin-walkers. (In the book they mentioned there was another tribe who were werewolves and they hunted them down.) And also there are four types of werewolves. (European, American, Japanese, and Lokoti)
. European Werewolves: are big and hairless, and they grow bigger and stronger every time they kill and consume their prey.
. American Werewolves: are the ones we know and love covered in fur.
. Japanese Werewolves: turn into normal wolves.
. And Lokoti Werewolves: look mostly human with wolf like appendages. (The kind of Werewolf you see in Supernatural I guess.)
You could just excuse movies of werewolves that turn into normal wolves as the Japanese types.
The actual werewolf in being human is great. The actual costume isn’t great but the fear of changing is so great
Is it just me, or did you say "Lycan subscribe" at the end? ;V
I'm now going to pretend that I did
I thought that too and thought it was a nice touch.
I'd love a movie adaptation from the Dark World series. The main focus is on Vampires but the Werewolves of that universe are friggin terrifying.
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Methinks you gave Underworld a bit of the short end of the stick. While they could've looked more lupine, I feel they did a great job at portraying the savage beast that is the lycanthrope. And they **DID** explain why they were able to turn at-will plot-wise. The fact that New Line Cinema were sued by White Wolf/WOD for being too similar to **THE BEST** Lycanthrope & Vampire mythos I've come across is clear evidence to show they were onto the right thing...
ShidenByakko I agree, and also not every werewolf movie has to be scary. Sometimes it's about the power of the beast and the movie setting.
Additionally, there are two distinct types of Lycans in the Underworld films. Those that had control over the transformation (which have more smooth skin and are the ones he accuses of looking bear-ish) and those that don't, which are much more wold like.
In the end, the video maker will never praise a werewolf unless it uses unconvincing & dated practical effects.
I didn’t realize they sued them. I definitely felt that the creators of underworld were WOD fans
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Do a google search of "World Of Darkness Underworld Lawsuit" or you can also look up the Underworld 2003 Movie page on Wikipedia. Turns out they settled with an undisclosed amount...
Honestly... Underworld is what made "Werewolves" fascinating for me. I can't stand the "wolf man" look.. or the lazy "just a wolf" look. But the Lycans from Underworld were everything I wanted out of a werewolf. I'm just pissed that the movies keep trying to make them "equally bad" to the vampires, when we all know that the Lycans are the real heroes.
I know it says Halloween is round the corner, but this is a re-upload of an older video and I didn't wanna wait for Halloween as I have some more exciting new stuff planned for then...
I was worried there for a moment that I missed a whole season.
"It's a little early for Halloween, Simmons."
"Where you're going, every day's Halloween."
Great video! What do you think of hemlock Grove transformations? I think they did a good blend of practical and cgi.
I’m not going to lie, for a brief moment I thought I stepped through time and space. You had me in an existential crisis man!
Jk, well kinda....
you forget the wer (2013) really amazing redesign of werewolf
I'm not sure if you can call it a werewolf, but for me Vicar Amelia from Bloodborne fits these aformentioned categories pretty well. Although the transformation from human to monster is not shown you can feel the sheer pain of it through her screams and rearrangment of bones as both heard and shown from her shadow.
She is also tall and monstrous in appearance and yet retains human traits (elongated arms and five fingers) and posture (hunched over as if in prayer). And given to how much Vicar Amelia shrieks during her fights she is likely not enjoying this bestial experience or has completely embraced the monster within.
I love werewolves, their my personal fav monsters. I dressed up as a werewolf twice and even did some werewolf drawings.
Personally my favorite werewolf design is the Lycan from Underworld series. but I'm also a fan of the design from Harry Potter and Prisoner of Azkaban.
My favorites are The Howling, American Werewolf in London, Wolfen, The Wolfman (2010), The Curse of the Werewolf, Gingersnaps, Underworld: Rise of the Lycans, and Dog Soldiers. Worst movie with best werewolves: Van Helsing. Best movie with worst werewolf: Silver Bullet.
van helsing bad film? what the fuck are you smoking
finally someone else who likes wolfman (2010)
watch both Wolfcop films, they're brilliant (oh and, worst werewolf film I've seen so far, is a low-budget flick called War Wolves)
Big Bad Wolf, where the human is as much an ahole as the werewolf is. Bad movie, but it's a nice twist having a werewolf which is a monster in both forms.
The fuck is this list? Where is Bad Moon? Bad moon is way better than The Howling, also its scaried than AWiL imo. Wolfen is bad. The Wolfman ain't scary. Ginger snaps is good, underworld is good and dog soldiers is good.
I always loved werewolves as the representation for the base animal nature in mankind that we'll never be able to escape. Anger, fear, hell even lust as you touch up on lightly near the end can all play into that. The full moon isn't necessary to make a great werewolf, but the savage uncontrollable nature of the beast I believe is key. The full moon just helps emphasize that no, we can't control it. Whenever there is a full moon you *will* turn. That's just a natural law of the curse that you can no more change than you could make a fish breathe on land.
The book I am working on touches on this
MJ's Thriller, also by American Werewolf director - John Landis was another badass beast.
Steve D he did say in an interview that he wanted it to be feline but everyone thought I was a werewolf
@@tiannadelmo2647 Actually, I do remember MJ growing whiskers which wolves don't really have. Werewolf, werekitty - either way, he was still a badass beast!
@@steved1593 Technically wolves do have whiskers, just not as long as cats. Regardless, I got your point.;)
@@natebush8217 Learning a lot from were(insert animal here) comments!
@@steved1593 It's the magic of our mutual love for werebeasts that brings us all together! 🐺♥️
American Werewolf: The horror bits as well as the comic bits work to enhance each other and the result makes you uncomfortable. It’s sheer brilliance, from the opening scene in the pub and the moors, to the dream sequences with funny zombies, the transformation FX that are completely in service of the film, the Piccadilly Circus extreme slapstick, the fantastic acting and the fact that the wolf is never the protagonist, but always David Naughton’s character. One of the very few movies where dread and comic relief not only go hand in hand, but are interchangeable. Masterpiece.
Yes! I love werewolves! For me the best werewolf designs (regardless of final execution) are the dog soldiers, doctor who and skyrim werewolves. The skyrim ones are damn near perfect. I don't like the hairy dude with fangs design or the cop out straight up wolf design. For me a werewolf has to be big and bipedal while kind of hunched over, walks and runs on two legs but can sprint on all fours. As for execution I think we need a Jurassic park style blend of practical effects and expertly mixed CG
yeah skyrim ones where great
I've been playing Skyrim a lot lately.. now I gotta do a Werewolf playthrough.
Ah man I forgot all about the Skyrim werewolf, I just made a whole comment about the Doctor Who werewolf who is absolutely my favourite
Steve Spielberg's rules for Jurassic Park were simple and immortal:
1. Rarely, if ever, show the entirety of the animal in full frame
2. When showing an animal for an extended period of time, ensure lighting is dim or even dark
3. Limit close-up shots of the animal to practical effects only, function permitting (
I've always really liked the way The Prisoner of Azkaban handled it. The transformation itself is pretty good for CG and the werewolf feels like a genuine, frightening, threatening creature.
I think the skinny look is what makes it so disturbing. It looks uncanny. Neither too human nor too wolf-like. Also fits Lupin's look and portrayal in the movie. Mostly every other werewolf is hairy and buff.
Alfonso ST Oh, for sure. His elongated, disproportionate limbs make him somewhat off putting and unique.
Were wolves scared the hell out of me as a kid. And even today, I'll get nightmares of them. Silver bullet scared me so bad, the scene where it sneaks up on him on the bridge and he barely gets his fire work off in its eye. The soundtrack as he drove away and sat in his bed terrified transferred right into my mind and scarred me, I love wear wolves, yet I'm terrified of them. Funny thing.
Edit: fixed spelling error.
Also at 12:16 is another scene from silver bullet that showed the brutality and was far different than just a bite to the neck, I found that far more scary than a quick bite to the neck. I need to watch it again.
Same here man that movie messed me up as a kid an is still a favorite today!
Now that I’ve watched this I’ve got to say that 2 of my favorites are Prisoner of Azkaban, and the US version of Being Human. Keep in mind that I haven’t seen many of the older movies, before my time. Prisoner of Azkaban did a great job of showing the suspense of the transformation, as well as showing how the curse effects the person that transforms. Lupin as a character is easy to love. The reason I like Being Human’s take is because they emphasize that it is an animal. Not necessary a malicious monster, just a wild animal. Though that animal happens to be capable of incredible violence, it is just an animal. Due to this, the show does a great job of handling the ‘morning after’ of being a werewolf.
When you consider just how directors and storytellers can use their budget and how much time is available, the werewolf is difficult to fully encapsulate. You might be able to do some parts really well, but due to that focus other aspects become unrealistic.
I was actually suprised by the new Wolfman. My favourite Werewolf movie is however Dog Soldiers. It's like The Predator but with werewolfs.
I love An American Werewolf in London but honestly, Ginger Snaps would have to be my favourite werewolf movie. The relationship with the two sisters was great and I love how it’s more of a gradual transformation instead of a full moon one, very original. I also have much nostalgia for it too!
Werewolf movies are the best when there is a psychological aspect of loosing control or getting more lively, with werwolf side effects. And ginger snaps is great. They get the potential victim and the werewolf right.
Ned Barks I whole-heartedly agree
They need to make another "What We Do in the Shadows" but focus on the werewolves.
Pretty sure I heard they were going to do a TV series on it in NZ
really?! that would be awesome, I hope Bill Napier is in it :P
CG has its place, but it should never be used in its entirety. The problem with CGI is that the best CGI goes unnoticed, whereas the worst CGI is all anyone can talk about. The same is true about practical effects as well, if the practical effect looks stupid (like many, many practical effects have) then people will notice it as well.
Agreed. CGI can be good. I don't cringe when I watch The Matrix today, but bad the CGI in The Matrix Reloaded when Neo fights all those Agent Smiths looks terrible today. It looked bad back then when I saw it in a movie theater.
Good practical effects can stand the test of time like the transformation in An American Werewolf in London. I was born in the early 1980s but I didn't see that movie until the mid to late 2000s and I was impressed with those effects.
Van Helsing has one of the best werewolves
I think it works amazingly in animation because when everything is drawn or looks drawn the transformations look just as real as the rest which makes almost all monsters more terrifying. I know quite a few people lack the capability to suspend their disbelieve far enough to find drawn or animated images frightening as an adult but if you can get yourself into the mindset it's really one of the best forms of media to show convincing body horror.
I love how you included the shots from The Monster Squad, I still watch it from time to time, I love that movie.
Same here.It`s a true cult classic.
American Werewolf in London is the pinnacle of the genre
And max landis is penning and directing a remake with his dad as producer, gone be good
Eric Ellerbrock Max Landis has never made or written a good movie
Chronicle was not bad, but yeah ... he is not is father
It doesn't need a remake in my opinion. But if you are going to attach the name to something make it a sequel like The Fly where he has a son with the nurse and the son grows up and turns into a werewolf. American Werewolf in Paris would have been ok if the CGI wasn't so bad.
American werwolf in paris was a teenage movie by Waltdisney ...
I dont have the skill in english to say it all, but it was bad. realy bad
Bloodborne Werewolves are underrated
Those two bastards on the bridge...
Reza Satria The Werewolves in God Of War have a great design as well.
I friggin love Bloodborne
Best Werewolf in a Game goes to the one from Vampire Bloodlines, i never felt so helpness and weak and of coruse scared as fuck.
Me after I read this comment: "Wait, Bloodborne has werewolves?"
*looks them up on TH-cam*
Me: "Holy fuck now THAT'S a werewolf!"
I need to give Bloodborne a shot. Really love the aesthetic and now I know it's got werewolves. Always a draw for me.
Ginger Snaps, The Howling and Van Helsing,
My favourite werewolves. I need to watch Bad Moon!
Wasn't Ginger Snaps the one where it was teenage girls that were the focus characters?
@@andrejg4136 Yep
The greatest quote of all time: Wolfmans get nards
LATE PHASES might not have the best creature, but it's a *damn* good movie. I highly recommend it.
Nothing beats Rick Baker's werewolf in an American werewolf in London its my personal favorite
Rick Baker's werewolf stands the test of time.
That movie scared the shit out of me as a kid.
For me Silver Bullet and American Werewolf in London are the best two Werewolves movies ever.
I agree!
I agree. How about the Howling and Gingersnaps and the 2010 Wolf Man?
I think Skyrim has my favorite werewolf design. Skyrim's werewolves are probably one of the scariest and most powerful looking werewolves I've seen anywhere!
I agree. But I wish the transformation was more realistic.
To this day Van Helsing remains my favourite movie with werewolves.
Am I the only one who doesn't like the "Werewolf ripping out of the skin" transformation type. It almost looks mortal and just makes you wonder if those werewolves have some kind of super-regenerate power or somethin that allows them to reform the human skin.
i mean i dont like that type of transformation either but werewolves are known for having extremely high regeneration. Silver being the only thing that can actually hurt/kill a werewolf because every other wound would just heal up.
I don't like it either, 'cause to me it looks way too graphic.
Same! It kinda makes me uncomfortable I just stick with the regular kind where it doesn’t rip the skin
I love it. Part of of the werewolf curse is the excruciating pain that comes with the transformation, and I can think of few thinks more painful than a tearing of skin
Lord Starscream, True leader of the Decepticons yes all that tearing off the skin was stupid. Transform like that would already compromise the heart because of trauma pain and adrenaline.. now they have the people tearing off their skin?? Lol 😂
Big fluffy tail
Snout
Digitigrade posture
Rampant insatiable bloodlust
Supernatural resielience
Qthedude16 I’ve always loved werewolves like that, but as I’ve gotten older a tail isn’t so much of a necessity. Werewolves should have a balance of both human and wolf features, so, it should have snout, fur, digitgrade legs, human torso and arms and claws. My favourite werewolf is the Doctor Who werewolf and when I was younger I wished he had a tail but nah I think it he actually looks better without one makes em look scarier I think
edit: although i do love the tails on the skyrim werewolves
Oliver Reeds characterisation of the creature in Hammers' 1961 'Curse of the Werewolf' is one of the best interpretations I've ever seen. The make up for the creature was pretty awesome too !
How’d you guys feel about the werewolves from “being human”? Both the uk and us versions. Personally I prefer the transformation in the uk version.
I've always loved werewolves ever since I was a kid, mostly because to me they seemed the most realistic of movie monsters.
Those that have died coming back and snacking on brains? Nah. Cold skinned pale people drinking blood. Nah. But a person turning into a beast? Totally acceptable.
I love any werewolf that's large and can stand on two legs. I hate nothing more than to watch a movie hoping for a good werewolf and see someone transform into just an ordinary wolf.... it just seems so lazy, uninspired and removes any terror from the film for me.
That's why Red Riding Hood is my favourite guilty pleasure movie.
Totally agree with every thing you said. I can't stand werewolf movies where a person goes from being a 6 foot bipedal human into a 2 foot tall skinny wolf dog. Nothing scary about that.
It is kind of awesome, though. Sort of like watching the Hulk transform.
I loved blood and chocolate, cursed and the underworld but the others are just so hard to get into but the best classic is monster squad
Sounds interesting. I might have a watch one day.
I have watched AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON so many times...
The 'Transformation' scenes are Fantastic !! Genius work by Rick Baker & John Landis !!!
It's an absolute classic of the genre, and one of my favorite Films !!
Excellent re-upload vid, Rossatron.
DavyDevilution I ' always felt sorry the guy transforming into a werwolf, what a horrible.way to be. we
It's obviously not a film, but I really like the way werewolves are depicted in the Vampire The Masquerade tabletop rpg. In that Werewolves are these terrifying, huge and unstoppable forces of nature that even vampires can't match up to. They can think and talk, if they want to, but they generally just kill the player characters on sight. Killing them is possible, but incredibly difficult and dangerous, so even powerful vampires tend to run away if they come across them.
Instead of showing sub par cgi, these movies should show us powerful supernatural creatures flinch in abject terror when they hear a wolf howl in the night. That would make for a terrific film monster.
You raise an interesting point - in a world with a number of different kinds of horrific creatures, having one type of monster that terrifies all the rest a stroke of genius from a horror standpoint. For the sake of raising tension, seeing how something like a vampire or a gargoyle reacts when faced with the mere possibility of a werewolf is a spectacular way to build up the beast.
That's because in Vampire, the players control vampire characters. If the players controlled werewolf characters, it would likely be the other way around.
Styxblaze Vampire is the only World of Darkness game that I've played, so I still think of them as scary killing machines you should just avoid. Learning more about them would take away the mystique.
Masquerade is also classic world of darkness and most of those don't cross over so well. In new world of darkness or chronicles of darkness, werewolves are indeed much more powerful than vampires, and they function on more similar systems so it's an easier comparison.
Granted vampires have strengths in other areas but raw combat is a werewolf thing
Great Intake on Werewolf Films. I think Van Helsing”s Werewolf Transformation both, but mainly Huge Jackson”s Werewolf was done brilliantly, and also i like Full Eclipse with Mario Van Peebles as a hybrid werewolf worked for me too.
Well written, produced and cut. Good work.
Monster squads wolfman had a great, painful transformation , I feel it goes unnoticed.
Van helsing and the Wolfman have the best adaptation of the werewolf
Yung Dino the wolfman transformation was so slow but you can't deny that for that time period it was pretty cool to watch
It's cool that Rossatron is more prolific nowadays
The CineRanter He earned it.
"The Wolfman(2010)" was my favorite with Van helsing. Like really !
"The Howling" is my favorite werewolf transformation, but the first generation werewolves from "Underworld: Rise of the Lycans" are my all time werewolf design, bar none. They're the perfect blend of human and wolf-like characteristics and also have the benefit of being a good mixture of practical and CGI effects.
The reasons Why I love werewolves are explained in the above video from word to word. But one other thing that fascinates me is the werewolf mythology and what the character has to go through. Best example is again an American werewolf in London
I’m glad I’m not the only one who loves werewolves. And while I do agree that the transformations in Underworld are too quick, I like it. Mainly because if they took a long time to change, they would already be dead.
I'm glad you're not the only one too, else there would never be werewolf movies. They don't make movies for an audience of one person for some reason.
I love werewolves from Underworld. And werewolf from Van Helsing even more.
jozo fero I thought the werewolf in van helsing was one of the best all time. And it was my ideal werewolf despite being cgi
Whats funny is that in Underworld Lycans are kind of implied to be a different species than Werewolves. As the lore goes William was the first werewolf and anyone he killed or bit would turn into a werewolf but stay in permanent beast frenzy at all times never changing back to human. Somehow Viktor got some of these wolves to breed and created Lucian the first Lycan a werewolf who could turn back into a human form and retained sanity during both states.
In oreder to bring the good old werewolf back someone must resort to old good horror mood without too many fillers in between action horror scenes.
The werewolf in howling (the first one) is the perfect example werewolf movie for me as far as it gets.
Plus I agree absolutely with all you say in the video.
@Rossatron This was fantastic man. Thanks for your efforts. Subscribed and shared.
"The Howling" werewolf to this day gives me the complete creeps.
I liked the werewolf in Silver Bullet
Hell yeah finally someone else Also how sick is the transformation from Wolf to human at the end?
While the movie itself was good the werewolf looked lame and cheesy the only one that looked worse was the werewolves in the dog soldiers
Me too.That one was pretty cool.
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My favorite "Werewolf" movie is Van Hellsing, they made them look amazing. They also behave like a werewolf really would in my opinion.
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10:32 seeing too much of a monster and it loses power . what a great line and very thoughtful if you want my opinion
Agreed 100%.
An American Werewolf in London, besides being my favorite movie of ALL time, it hasn't been topped.
Awesome video.
New subscriber here.
But I did like idea that in van helsing werewolf can kill a vampire and only monster that scares a vampire!! Btw I like van helsing starting Hugh Jackman
Same
NeoSoldner fantastic movie
Agreed. So underrated.
Word. That movie was great
That was bullshit
Hey man i know you are a similar age to mine. Don't you remember the TV series "werewolf" in the late 87's? I remember as a kid i was so scared of this show. The main character was a werewolf but looking for the top of his bloodline so he could kill him and stop his curse. That was pretty cool. But i admit last time i saw it i was like 8... Good stuff anyways, again....
I loved that show as a kid. I've even started watching it again and am about half way through the lone season which is about 29 episodes long. You can find them all on youtube. Where it's not as terrifying as it used to be it's still pretty good stuff for werewolf buffs looking for a fix. It's a bit like the old Incredible Hulk TV show where each episode he goes from place to place helping people by killing bad guys.
goonymiami fantastic show
Werewolves are better then vampires don't @ me
Groovoo Vlogs I agree
Well yeah they don't have many weaknesses
Groovoo Vlogs yes
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Werewolfs are dumb in their beast form, vampires aren't.
I see a lot of Van Helsing fans on here. I liked it. But the #1 werewolf film ever made is "An American Werewolf in London". It can't be topped. Transformation is great. David's futile resistance, again great. The love story. David's torn apart buddy forced to roam the Earth. The subway scene (where a guy with a briefcase is first defiant, then a little scared because he hasn't seen the WW yet, and then truly frightened when he sees a beast beyond anything he thought possible.) The humor (zoo scenes especially).
The Howling has the coolest, Dog soldiers have the most abstract, Bad Moon has the scariest(Final form and very subjective as I say this movie as a kid and I'm a little biased), American Werewolf in London has the best transformation. I love this genre
Howling's werewolves I think get slept on because the latter movies are straight up trash. But they are some of my favorite bipedal types.
@@andrejg4136 .. nobody, nothing can even match The Howling, American Werewolf (Dog Soldiers).. until they face .. me! 🙋🏼♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreetings!
Ps: shit there is no full moon 🌕 today.. fu..!