The 7i is currently on sale on their website for just over 1700. Will probably be gone in 24 hours, but it goes down again like every two weeks not including holiday sales. Unfortunately it's not the white version. If you sign up for business (don't need to have a business), you can get another 100 or another 7% military discount. They usually stack, at least they did with previous purchases of mine.
i just bought the legion 7i with 4070 and i9 14th gen and the warm feeling doesnt feel bad at all and its really only warm when your playing games. Also I use an external keyboard and mouse so I dont feel the heat and I never really hear the fans. Also the weight for me isnt an issue since I can carry it easily. The screen is a huge upgrade from using a 60HZ 1080P monitor.
Do you play for long time? thats the only concern i have picking the legion 7. I play sometimes 3H to 4hr and i'm afraid it wont be the good machine for that?
I agree with you - thinner laptops with RTX 4070 and lower GPUs would be better served by being paired with a Core Ultra CPU instead of the power hungry and hot running HX line.
I feel as though when we get a Legion with a Core Ultra next year, the performance of this one will still out do the new one, and since alot of people use it plugged in all the time, they would still be picking up this version as the last to have a HX line intel CPU
@@mcslender2965 5 pro is far less portable, you seem to be unaware that people take laptops to school/university/work, which often times comes with many other things in their bag than just a laptop, so the slimness of Legion 7i with how competitive the performance is to full size 16” gaming laptops makes it the choice for people, for example: I returned my Legion 7i because Ive been getting black screen issues, I am seriously considering yoga 9i because I THOUGHT it would give me way better battery power and similar gaming performance, but after this video I am considering rebuying the Legion, as I don’t think the new Ultra cores will be optimised enough by the next 2/3 years to completely make the HX series useless
@@mcslender2965 No idea why my initial response is deleted but what I said what you seem to underestimate the amount of people who pack their laptop to go to school/uni/work and pack stuff like lunch boxes, papers, books etc in the same bag, Legion 5 and Legion 7 pro are beefy and Legion 7i is slightly less beefier, for instance I returned my Legion 7i as I was getting black screen issues and thought of buying yoga 9i, but after this review I am considering rebuying the Legion as the Yoga is not giving the great battery returns I expected for the far less gaming performance, its just how it is.
@@mcslender2965 No idea why my initial response is deleted but what I said what you seem to underestimate the amount of people who pack their laptop to go to school/uni/work and pack stuff like lunch boxes, papers, books etc in the same bag, Legion 5 and Legion 7 pro are beefy and Legion 7i is slightly less beefier, for instance I returned my Legion 7i as I was getting black screen issues and thought of buying yoga 9i, but after this review I am considering rebuying the Legion as the Yoga is not giving the great battery returns I expected for the far less gaming performance, its just how it is.
@@JustJoshTech i saw sooo many people and reviewers say that you can fix fan noise by uninstalling armoury crate and installing G Helper I am very intrested in buying a G16 so I would appreciate it alot if it can be tried
I have a g16 with a 4070 and with the new bios, uninstalling armoury crate and tweaking with g-helper it's dead silent for normal tasks and gives me almost 10hrs of battery for normal college use and it doesn't get abnormally loud when gaming. Highly recommend!!!!!
Honestly, I feel the pro 7, though a step up from the regular is just isn't worth it for what it offers. Lenovo tends to put their products on sale and it'd be nice to get the legion 7 for 1600 or so, so that's my pick
I just picked up a 7i with the i9 and 4070 for $1624 straight from Lenovo yesterday. It was marked down and I got a student discount. It's still up now for $1710 without the student discount
lenovo has done well with their cooling, allowing for higher wattabe gpus.. i have the legion 9 from last yeaar and can tel that even the fans/blowers are of higher quality
I just bought a Legion 7i Gen 9. So far it's been just ok. My main issues are it's heavy and run time on battery is very short. I have to plug in the charger after an 1.5 hours of use. My HP Spectre x360 has 3x battery life.
@@JustJoshTech A 2019 with 15" display, i7, and 1050 GPU. Runs hot as hell when playing games but ok otherwise. I get about 3 hours when gaming, 5 when doing CAD work, and about 7 hours when surfing the web and TH-cam. Still on the original factory battery. Lighter than my Legion even though it also has an all metal chassis. I would have gotten a new current Spectre but HP doesn't offer it with a gaming GPU plus it's lacking in the USB ports.
@@JustJoshTech Eh, prior to the Legion, it was my newest laptop. I still have a few of my laptops dating back to the late 80's. The oldest one is running either a 286 or 386. I don't remember. But then, there's a lot I don't remember. Lol. Anyway, I still like my Spectre and will continue using it. Will need to upgrade the M.2 to a 2TB though. Original drive is getting full.
Hi Josh! Do you plan to make a review of the new MSI stealth 16 ai studio A1V soon? Like many people, I'm considering this option as an alternative to the new Asus G16 due to its fan noise and there are currently no solid reviews thereof so it would be really helpful :)
Hello Josh, could you tell me if to date there are still problems with the black screen and exactly how it fails? I have looked for a lot of information about this laptop until I came across these comments and I no longer know whether to buy it for this reason
Thank you Josh! I was waiting for this review on Legion 7i for weeks. I'm just wondering if it is difficult to keep the Glacier white clean and away from stains?
Its white so it does pick up stains, especially the rubber part at the bottom of laptop, I bought the Black one before I returned it as it was faulty, and it was also gorgeous, it was a fingerprint magnet, but had a timeless minimalist metal black look that was just gorgeous to use, so I would say black is better if you want to keep it for the next 4/5 years
as a full stack web dev, the website update got me the most excited! Great video as usual! I have a question regarding the Legion Slim 7 AMD from 2023. I ordered it as it was on sale for 1500€ including 21% VAT. 16GB upgradable RAM, 7840HS, RTX 4060, 3200 x 2000 IPS 165Hz display. Is this laptop decent for someone who won't do hardcore gaming, more productivity and light gaming on the side?
The laptop you have ordered is fantastic for that. It would have been my number 1 pick 6 months ago. Yoga Pro 9i 16 is my number 1 pick in 2024. That being said, i'm guessing the Legion Slim 7 2023 is much cheaper.
Any thoughts on the new Legion Slim 5? Looking for something that is good for working on the road in hotels/remote offices but can still play some games on it in the evening. Or any other products to look in to for that purpose?
I like the 14inch Slim 5. the 16 inch is a bit of a meh laptop. It is a big step down from the Legion 7, and doesn't bring much to the table other than the price drop. The 14 inch is more special though. It's more portable and has a big 14.5 inch screen. Hope that helps. Try to buy via our website as it helps support the channel. If you can
@@JustJoshTech thanks for the reply! I’ll take a look at that one. I’m in Canada so not sure I’ll be able to offer your site but I’ll take a look around.
Hi there, I think I am torn between the Legion 7i and the Yoga Pro 9i. In the Yoga Pro video you had 57% after Cinebench 30 min run, but in this video it lists 11%? Do you know why the discrepancy? I'd like a laptop that can play games, but 120 FPS is more than enough. Battery life and portability are paramount, and the Legion 7i has the bigger battery but less efficiency. Though I love the look of the white Legion 7i. And speaker quality is surprisingly important for my workstation background music, though I'll be coming from a 2018 Alienware 15 R3 so it'll be an up grade either way.
Yes. This model is the retail one with rtx 4060. The other was an early stage sample with RTX 4070. We re ran that test and got 28%, btw. I have another video coming out next week with it btw. So maybe wait for that video
@@JustJoshTech ah I see. For my use case do you think legion 7i, voga pro 9i or zephyrus g16? Not gaming on battery but doing other work tasks for sure.
@@english724 I bought the Legion 7i before I returned it as i kept getting black screen issues (apparently its an Nvidia issue) its very good for games that I ran: Rocket League and COD, I thought because I run both on lowest possible settings so I can get higher fps a yoga 9i would be better as the battery life is better, but after seeing so many reviews, the battery is not that much better compared to performance drop off, I think I'll be rebuying the Legion 7i, or maybe wait for the AMD version of Legion 7 if you want better battery life (I would need intel because it gets better performance in 3D softwares)
@@JT11111 That's fair. I went to see them in person and the screen on the Yoga (and the G16 to a lesser extent) is ohh so nice though lol. The matte on the Legion just isn't doing it for me.
@@english724 yh the screen on legion is very average from my experience, and I can only imagine how nice yoga 9 is, but as Im looking to use this for the next 5 years, if yoga doesn’t give great compensation between performance and battery life then theres no point not getting the legion
I have a question have u seen asus creator q540 before? I was wondering why is there BARELY any reviews for it online, please help. It looks like a good laptop but im confused!
Cool Laptop. The Legion 7i gen 7 is still better option than these newer generation laptops. The gen8/gen9 is dodgy in my opinion since Lenovo went on their way to downgrade it so as to release the legion 9i which in my opinion is just an expensive and unreliable version of the 7i. I hate the legion 9i for ruining the legion series, they could just stick with their older lineup version BUT NOO “let’s change the legion 7i into a flashier ‘razor overpriced’ but way more reliable” I swear when the release of the legion pro 7i released, I was very disappointed and didn’t want to even look at the laptop BUT when the legion 9i got released, I think I see the pro 7i laptop very differently.
Hi Josh, thx for your videos. I'm an architect so I frequently multi-task two of those apps: photoshop, archicad, autocad illustrator, twin motion... I really like the yoga Pro 9i 4070 64 ram for his adaptability but the legion 7i is more powerfull. I'm not a gamer. Can you help me decide between those two please?
hi Josh. I just bought the Yoga Pro 9i with the MiniLED panel but it looks like an IPS panel in SDR mode with backlight bleed. its only in HDR mode that it does look like a MiniLED panel. is that normal?
Josh do you know what is tdp for legion 7i 4060 gforce model?...100w or? Im thinking of getting one with i7 14700HX and 4060, that one is probably more cool to the touch.
So, will it be better if we buy Lenovo 7i with i7-14th gen with RTX4070?? I mean, the processor will be less powerful so it will consume less power and will give more battery life?? Please explain, I am noob and love this laptop but it's very high priced so checking out all the TH-cam videos😂
Okay now we have the review I’m stuck between the legion 7i (glacier white) vs hp transend 14(white)is the two I can’t decide on. I want to game and do school work on them with good battery to stream and browse. Which one is better in yall opinion?
Lol i'm on the Transscend right now. I'd get the Transcend for school over the Legion 7i. It's far more portable. Clearly your gaming will be worse off, but i'd personally take that trade off
At 5:10, the graph for cinebench 30 minute run suggests the new yoga pro 9i has worse battery life than all those gaming laptops?? Is this true or a mistake in the graph?
1) I'm curious to see how these laptops will fare when Lenovo will use AMD chips. 2) Josh really likes the Legion laptops, there's a certain bias there. It's OK, though, we all have one. 😊
I know it's priced pretty well, but still, having a usb c port with usb 3.2 gen 1 speed is a shame. Most premium-'ish' gaming/creator laptops even have 3.2 gen 2 speeds on their usb a ports, so having such a slow usb c port on this type of device is not great, to put it mildly.
Did you ever have the black screen that the computer and the computer becomes unresponsive? I finally finished installing everything and I could not play any games nor could I put the computer in sleep mode. Disabled hybrid mode and now I can launch games (so far) but hibernate is still a no go. Having to force restart a computer that is 4 days old (happening since day 1) is such a bummer. Legion 7i 2024, 240hz ge force 4070.
Yes, this is a well-known Nvidia driver issue that is rampant on laptops right now. Try disabling the MUX switch so you use the Intel graphics via Optimus. That may help. Otherwise see if there are older drivers available to go back to. Please note many laptops from a vatiety of brands right now have this
I returned my Legion 7i last month as on the 25th day I faced this issue, only fix was to launch apps or games without it being connected to charger, was hoping its been addressed by now and its worrying that NVidia hasnt fixed this yet
Got the 2024 Lenovo Legion 7i recently. For me, the display is lacking in brightness, speaker is terrible and keyboard deck feels hot. You feel the most heat around where WiFi card sits. Returned it and got M3 MacBook Pro.
I hear that due to your therapist's recommendations, you are only reviewing, boaring safe laptops that won't raise your blood pressure. However, i need you to leave your safe space and review the I pad pro where a 2 tb and 16 gig of ram with a metal plated keyboad is over 3000 dollars. "What world are we living in". BTW the Dell xps 16 is the best-looking laptop. I guess PTSD from that review made you forget😅
honestly the new legion is a big L, but the look is stunning. People are basically paying for the look rather than the performance of the laptop. A lot of people will never need a 14900hx, it's all for marketing to the people who know nothing about laptops
I would love to have it too but I dont want Intel processor and it is 16“ which is a deal breaker at that point. Visually it is one of the great looking laptops. A Ryzen and bigger screen would make me consider with a right price point. 1.7k - 1.9k would be my max.
I would recommend something other than the 14th gen, as Intel will make that architecture obsolete in a few months. You can get a Core Ultra or AMD, but preferably give 2024 Intel and AMD an easy pass. You will see Gen 2 Core Ultra next year, along with new GPUs. If you are not a gamer, wait for the new M4 chips as another alternative. But save your money and be patient. The 14th Gen has awful efficiency, and in 2024, it should be a criminal offence to sell this chip.
I am really curious about the design meetings made in Lenovo. How come they come up with with that much wrong decision? There is no USB connection in backside, also Thinkbook had this bad design choice. If you want to use the device in desktop mode, you have to plug power and HDMI backside, USB to left/right. Why not just placing a thunderbolt to backside with power input so that you just connect them? Nearly all Lenovo's 16" laptops have numpad which I hate. Just only that is enough for me to not buy Lenovo laptops. I bought Z16 which had unnecessaryly high DPI OLED. Which is power hungry, and which causes scaling problems with external monitors. You have to restart programs to solve. Than they added touch feature to this OLED, which creates dot patterns on screen. If you look at the screen closer than 50cm, you'll see thin lines. Also renders OLED worse than TFT, after 10 years for the first time I've machine that it shifts color with respect to angle you look at.. Why do you ruin an OLED panel with a touch panel that is never used? Adding page up/down keys around arrow keys etc.. Really? Etc etc.. How come a company designs that much bad product? Fan noise on idle? WHYYYY? I am using PC laptops but with disgust. I wish I didn't have to use Windows..
Simply stunning until 2 years later when they completely shit the bed. Gaming Laptops still are garbage, way to heavy, always get throttling issues later, even when you replace the thermal pads, EVEN if you use the same ones that Lenovo uses in their Legions (PTM7950 )
Says the person as if there has not been logical advances in the last 10 years. 🤦🏿♂️ We are suffering the consequences of trying to put best of everything in a small chassis. What do you expect? It is simple physics. And still I believe they are getting there. Let's see if then new Snapdragon can aid in the complaints.
I’ll never buy a Windows laptop again because of Microsoft intrusive ads, update policies and bloatware. If I really wanted Windows, I’d be better off buying a Mac and running windows on a vm
Software compatibility is also important you know. Who gives a damn about speakers or battery life if you can’t even run the softwares you need for your job and get fired💀
I picked up the black version of that 7i with a 4060 and 14900HX on day one and have been using it for two months now, but there was no white available at the time in my country (Japan). I honestly love this computer. It does feel warm when gaming and in performance mode, but considering that I only use an ergonomic keyboard on my desk it's not a big deal. The battery is better than my old computer, but I can never seem to optimize it enough to reach what other TH-camrs have achieved for battery life. Still, I'm super happy with this computer, and hole it holds up for five or more years.
You're one of the few reviewers who takes the time to properly assess the surface tempature of the laptops - thank you. It boggles my mind that so many others oveerlook this aspect - what's the point of having a "powerful" laptop if you can't use it due to excessive keyboard heat?
@JustJoshTech 2:37 Do Nvidia Still Limit Power in Gaming ? as I seen from @Jarrod'sTech Videos it seems like from 4050 to 4070 nvidia powerlock laptops for gaming so anything lower than 4080 not actually reaching to the promised power limit unless outside gaming as far as I know is this still a thing or nvidia fixed it ???
Great review, Josh! I'm considering buying the Lenovo Legion 7i with the Intel Core i7-14700HX + RTX 4070, but I've read that Intel 13th/14th gen processors have some issues. Have you encountered any problems so far? I'd like this laptop to last me around 3-4 years. Otherwise, I'm thinking of getting the Legion Slim 5 with the Ryzen 7 8845HS + RTX 4070. Thanks!
I was hoping, almost praying, that these laptops would come with AMD CPUs or Core Ultras, just so i could get some decent battery life for my next laptop. But here we are, such a shame.
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Do you run the benchmarks when temps are at steady state? The numbers mean nothing if it thermal throttles after the fact.
I have the Legion 5 from 2021 in Stingray White and can confirm Lenovo makes some really good White Legions.
The 7i is currently on sale on their website for just over 1700. Will probably be gone in 24 hours, but it goes down again like every two weeks not including holiday sales. Unfortunately it's not the white version.
If you sign up for business (don't need to have a business), you can get another 100 or another 7% military discount. They usually stack, at least they did with previous purchases of mine.
Loving my 2023 Pro 7i 🎉
i just bought the legion 7i with 4070 and i9 14th gen and the warm feeling doesnt feel bad at all and its really only warm when your playing games. Also I use an external keyboard and mouse so I dont feel the heat and I never really hear the fans. Also the weight for me isnt an issue since I can carry it easily. The screen is a huge upgrade from using a 60HZ 1080P monitor.
I'm very glad!!!
Do you play for long time? thats the only concern i have picking the legion 7. I play sometimes 3H to 4hr and i'm afraid it wont be the good machine for that?
@@bryce2fadeway i do play for long hours sometimes and when I do it does get warm becuase it is metal
I agree with you - thinner laptops with RTX 4070 and lower GPUs would be better served by being paired with a Core Ultra CPU instead of the power hungry and hot running HX line.
I feel as though when we get a Legion with a Core Ultra next year, the performance of this one will still out do the new one, and since alot of people use it plugged in all the time, they would still be picking up this version as the last to have a HX line intel CPU
@@JT11111 if they want to plug in all time the 5 pro is already there
@@mcslender2965 5 pro is far less portable, you seem to be unaware that people take laptops to school/university/work, which often times comes with many other things in their bag than just a laptop, so the slimness of Legion 7i with how competitive the performance is to full size 16” gaming laptops makes it the choice for people, for example: I returned my Legion 7i because Ive been getting black screen issues, I am seriously considering yoga 9i because I THOUGHT it would give me way better battery power and similar gaming performance, but after this video I am considering rebuying the Legion, as I don’t think the new Ultra cores will be optimised enough by the next 2/3 years to completely make the HX series useless
@@mcslender2965 No idea why my initial response is deleted but what I said what you seem to underestimate the amount of people who pack their laptop to go to school/uni/work and pack stuff like lunch boxes, papers, books etc in the same bag, Legion 5 and Legion 7 pro are beefy and Legion 7i is slightly less beefier, for instance I returned my Legion 7i as I was getting black screen issues and thought of buying yoga 9i, but after this review I am considering rebuying the Legion as the Yoga is not giving the great battery returns I expected for the far less gaming performance, its just how it is.
@@mcslender2965 No idea why my initial response is deleted but what I said what you seem to underestimate the amount of people who pack their laptop to go to school/uni/work and pack stuff like lunch boxes, papers, books etc in the same bag, Legion 5 and Legion 7 pro are beefy and Legion 7i is slightly less beefier, for instance I returned my Legion 7i as I was getting black screen issues and thought of buying yoga 9i, but after this review I am considering rebuying the Legion as the Yoga is not giving the great battery returns I expected for the far less gaming performance, its just how it is.
Fyi: With the newest BIOS, the fan noise of the G16 with Vapor Chamber has been reduced
Thank you. We will try it a 4th time :( . But the high-pitched fan noise of the g14 and g16 is due to the airflow design. So I doubt that will change
@@JustJoshTech i saw sooo many people and reviewers say that you can fix fan noise by uninstalling armoury crate and installing G Helper
I am very intrested in buying a G16 so I would appreciate it alot if it can be tried
Wish my gen 8 legion 7i would get this lol. The fan has a higher pitched sound when maxed out.
I have a g16 with a 4070 and with the new bios, uninstalling armoury crate and tweaking with g-helper it's dead silent for normal tasks and gives me almost 10hrs of battery for normal college use and it doesn't get abnormally loud when gaming. Highly recommend!!!!!
@@juancardona2213mind sharing the settings you've changed?
legion 7, but with AMD.... the moment this arrives, im gonna become a very poor man
So much this. I try to buy AMD CPU on laptops whenever I can.
Honestly, I feel the pro 7, though a step up from the regular is just isn't worth it for what it offers. Lenovo tends to put their products on sale and it'd be nice to get the legion 7 for 1600 or so, so that's my pick
The Pros are among the best value if you need an RTX 4080 and above though
@@mcslender2965 Agreed. I still haven't seen a 4080 laptop on sale for less than I paid for my legion 7i pro. Not even close.
@@mcslender2965 But you lose the fingerprint sensor among other nice features.
@@mcslender2965I know but portability is a thing for me so that's why I'm very hesitant. I don't see myself going on a coffee with my lesion 7 Pro...
I just picked up a 7i with the i9 and 4070 for $1624 straight from Lenovo yesterday. It was marked down and I got a student discount. It's still up now for $1710 without the student discount
Thanks for the review Josh. That 7i is a really attractive laptop.
fantastic as always! I really enjoy every piece of your content.
Thanks Jonathan
lenovo has done well with their cooling, allowing for higher wattabe gpus.. i have the legion 9 from last yeaar and can tel that even the fans/blowers are of higher quality
great review, i noticed you haven't put the link to your website in the description and you usually do
😁 Feels like a breath of fresh air for you compared to other 16inch Windows laptops you've received recently 😂😅. Great review though, Thanks Josh 👍🏾
The legion 7i vs alienware m16 r2, which one do you recommend? Please
How about comparing Legion 5i Pro and Legion 7i Pro? Should be closer in terms of performance as 5i Pro outperforms 7i
I appreciate the comparison with Yoga Pro 9i. How do they compare in terms of speakers and build quality?
Speaker and build quality (e.g. touchpad, screen contrast, ir-webcam) is better on the yoga
I just bought a Legion 7i Gen 9. So far it's been just ok. My main issues are it's heavy and run time on battery is very short. I have to plug in the charger after an 1.5 hours of use. My HP Spectre x360 has 3x battery life.
Which spectre do you have?
@@JustJoshTech A 2019 with 15" display, i7, and 1050 GPU. Runs hot as hell when playing games but ok otherwise. I get about 3 hours when gaming, 5 when doing CAD work, and about 7 hours when surfing the web and TH-cam. Still on the original factory battery. Lighter than my Legion even though it also has an all metal chassis. I would have gotten a new current Spectre but HP doesn't offer it with a gaming GPU plus it's lacking in the USB ports.
@@Waltkat Oh wow that's a very old laptop
@@JustJoshTech Eh, prior to the Legion, it was my newest laptop. I still have a few of my laptops dating back to the late 80's. The oldest one is running either a 286 or 386. I don't remember. But then, there's a lot I don't remember. Lol. Anyway, I still like my Spectre and will continue using it. Will need to upgrade the M.2 to a 2TB though. Original drive is getting full.
Hi Josh! Do you plan to make a review of the new MSI stealth 16 ai studio A1V soon? Like many people, I'm considering this option as an alternative to the new Asus G16 due to its fan noise and there are currently no solid reviews thereof so it would be really helpful :)
Oh we don't have that one yet. I'll enquire about it
I wonder if there is comparision btw the Legion 7i and the new Zephyrus G16 models.
Can we not get the 7i pro in white?
very very informative ❤
Thank You
FINALLY! Thank you Josh, you are a legend!
They are running good for creative works? (3D modeling, Media design, Media production, web design?) I need it for that
Hello Josh, could you tell me if to date there are still problems with the black screen and exactly how it fails? I have looked for a lot of information about this laptop until I came across these comments and I no longer know whether to buy it for this reason
Thank you Josh! I was waiting for this review on Legion 7i for weeks. I'm just wondering if it is difficult to keep the Glacier white clean and away from stains?
Its white so it does pick up stains, especially the rubber part at the bottom of laptop, I bought the Black one before I returned it as it was faulty, and it was also gorgeous, it was a fingerprint magnet, but had a timeless minimalist metal black look that was just gorgeous to use, so I would say black is better if you want to keep it for the next 4/5 years
Hi, What is the best RTX 4060 and i7 laptop currently? Is it the Legion 5i Pro?
Legion 7i 16 inch or yoga pro 9i 16 inch?
as a full stack web dev, the website update got me the most excited! Great video as usual! I have a question regarding the Legion Slim 7 AMD from 2023. I ordered it as it was on sale for 1500€ including 21% VAT. 16GB upgradable RAM, 7840HS, RTX 4060, 3200 x 2000 IPS 165Hz display. Is this laptop decent for someone who won't do hardcore gaming, more productivity and light gaming on the side?
The laptop you have ordered is fantastic for that. It would have been my number 1 pick 6 months ago. Yoga Pro 9i 16 is my number 1 pick in 2024. That being said, i'm guessing the Legion Slim 7 2023 is much cheaper.
@@JustJoshTech it definitely is, by about 500-600 euros.
Lovely review as always
Any thoughts on the new Legion Slim 5? Looking for something that is good for working on the road in hotels/remote offices but can still play some games on it in the evening. Or any other products to look in to for that purpose?
I like the 14inch Slim 5. the 16 inch is a bit of a meh laptop. It is a big step down from the Legion 7, and doesn't bring much to the table other than the price drop. The 14 inch is more special though. It's more portable and has a big 14.5 inch screen. Hope that helps. Try to buy via our website as it helps support the channel. If you can
@@JustJoshTech thanks for the reply! I’ll take a look at that one. I’m in Canada so not sure I’ll be able to offer your site but I’ll take a look around.
Is it more warm to the touch then razer blade 16
Hi there, I think I am torn between the Legion 7i and the Yoga Pro 9i. In the Yoga Pro video you had 57% after Cinebench 30 min run, but in this video it lists 11%? Do you know why the discrepancy?
I'd like a laptop that can play games, but 120 FPS is more than enough. Battery life and portability are paramount, and the Legion 7i has the bigger battery but less efficiency. Though I love the look of the white Legion 7i. And speaker quality is surprisingly important for my workstation background music, though I'll be coming from a 2018 Alienware 15 R3 so it'll be an up grade either way.
Yes. This model is the retail one with rtx 4060. The other was an early stage sample with RTX 4070. We re ran that test and got 28%, btw. I have another video coming out next week with it btw. So maybe wait for that video
@@JustJoshTech ah I see. For my use case do you think legion 7i, voga pro 9i or zephyrus g16?
Not gaming on battery but doing other work tasks for sure.
@@english724 I bought the Legion 7i before I returned it as i kept getting black screen issues (apparently its an Nvidia issue) its very good for games that I ran: Rocket League and COD, I thought because I run both on lowest possible settings so I can get higher fps a yoga 9i would be better as the battery life is better, but after seeing so many reviews, the battery is not that much better compared to performance drop off, I think I'll be rebuying the Legion 7i, or maybe wait for the AMD version of Legion 7 if you want better battery life (I would need intel because it gets better performance in 3D softwares)
@@JT11111 That's fair. I went to see them in person and the screen on the Yoga (and the G16 to a lesser extent) is ohh so nice though lol. The matte on the Legion just isn't doing it for me.
@@english724 yh the screen on legion is very average from my experience, and I can only imagine how nice yoga 9 is, but as Im looking to use this for the next 5 years, if yoga doesn’t give great compensation between performance and battery life then theres no point not getting the legion
I have a question have u seen asus creator q540 before? I was wondering why is there BARELY any reviews for it online, please help. It looks like a good laptop but im confused!
Cool Laptop. The Legion 7i gen 7 is still better option than these newer generation laptops. The gen8/gen9 is dodgy in my opinion since Lenovo went on their way to downgrade it so as to release the legion 9i which in my opinion is just an expensive and unreliable version of the 7i. I hate the legion 9i for ruining the legion series, they could just stick with their older lineup version BUT NOO “let’s change the legion 7i into a flashier ‘razor overpriced’ but way more reliable” I swear when the release of the legion pro 7i released, I was very disappointed and didn’t want to even look at the laptop BUT when the legion 9i got released, I think I see the pro 7i laptop very differently.
Would like to see this compared head to head with the Razer Blade 16.
Is this good for students? Like how much does the battery pack last without intensive use. (JUST MSO and browsing)
This is rough for students re battery. It's a good laptop but you may want to choose something else
Hi Josh, thx for your videos. I'm an architect so I frequently multi-task two of those apps: photoshop, archicad, autocad illustrator, twin motion...
I really like the yoga Pro 9i 4070 64 ram for his adaptability but the legion 7i is more powerfull. I'm not a gamer. Can you help me decide between those two please?
How does the Lenovo legion 7i 2024 compare to the Acer predator helios neo 16 2024?
hi Josh. I just bought the Yoga Pro 9i with the MiniLED panel but it looks like an IPS panel in SDR mode with backlight bleed. its only in HDR mode that it does look like a MiniLED panel. is that normal?
Would you say the Asus G14 is better than the Legion 7i, other than the screen size preferences?
I like the Legion 7i over the G14. I'd say the 7i is a 9 out of 10 device. The G14 is more 8 out of 10
Surprising? How so? Legions have been at or among the top choices for some time now. It's either Legion or Asus for me.
I’m just wondering. Does the Ugreen Nexode Pro 100W/160W work for legion 7i/pro 7i gen 9?
Yes, great charger
Josh do you know what is tdp for legion 7i 4060 gforce model?...100w or? Im thinking of getting one with i7 14700HX and 4060, that one is probably more cool to the touch.
So, will it be better if we buy Lenovo 7i with i7-14th gen with RTX4070??
I mean, the processor will be less powerful so it will consume less power and will give more battery life??
Please explain, I am noob and love this laptop but it's very high priced so checking out all the TH-cam videos😂
I want to ask you that is buying a thinkpad nano intel gen 11 in 2024 worth it. I am a data analysist
Can you review the new MSI Stealth 16?
Where can i find the legion 7 last gen?
I have the 14900/4070 7i and is nowhere near warm or noisy as my previous Strix Scar 16. Maybe you've been unlucky in the silicon lottery.
What's your thoughts of the removal of Ethernet Port completely? Does that affect Gamers?
I don't love it tbh. But wifi gaming is pretty good now
Also you could buy a cheap ethernet dongle. So not end of the world
Okay now we have the review
I’m stuck between the legion 7i (glacier white) vs hp transend 14(white)is the two I can’t decide on. I want to game and do school work on them with good battery to stream and browse. Which one is better in yall opinion?
Lol i'm on the Transscend right now. I'd get the Transcend for school over the Legion 7i. It's far more portable. Clearly your gaming will be worse off, but i'd personally take that trade off
@@JustJoshTech Lol awesome! Thank you Josh! your the man!!!
At 5:10, the graph for cinebench 30 minute run suggests the new yoga pro 9i has worse battery life than all those gaming laptops?? Is this true or a mistake in the graph?
Likely a mistake. Others have pointed this out. We will place a comment when fixed
@@JustJoshTech thank you!
1) I'm curious to see how these laptops will fare when Lenovo will use AMD chips. 2) Josh really likes the Legion laptops, there's a certain bias there. It's OK, though, we all have one. 😊
Why when this boot up, the fans sound like a Jet Engine taking off?
Not a hard-core gamer, so the Lenovo Yoga Pro 9i (2024) would appeal more to me.
pls help choosing between this one and Dream Machines RG4070-17NA41. Price is $150 lower
Great content
I know it's priced pretty well, but still, having a usb c port with usb 3.2 gen 1 speed is a shame. Most premium-'ish' gaming/creator laptops even have 3.2 gen 2 speeds on their usb a ports, so having such a slow usb c port on this type of device is not great, to put it mildly.
thanks
I dont know what kind of crack they were smoking, but they straight up tossed out the idea of putting in a core ultra or ryzen cpu
HOW MUCH?! I can afford one, but won't
Did you ever have the black screen that the computer and the computer becomes unresponsive? I finally finished installing everything and I could not play any games nor could I put the computer in sleep mode. Disabled hybrid mode and now I can launch games (so far) but hibernate is still a no go. Having to force restart a computer that is 4 days old (happening since day 1) is such a bummer. Legion 7i 2024, 240hz ge force 4070.
Yes, this is a well-known Nvidia driver issue that is rampant on laptops right now. Try disabling the MUX switch so you use the Intel graphics via Optimus. That may help. Otherwise see if there are older drivers available to go back to. Please note many laptops from a vatiety of brands right now have this
@@JustJoshTech oh that's good to know! Maybe I will hold off on buying one then. Just wanted one before my current one died (it's on its way out).
I returned my Legion 7i last month as on the 25th day I faced this issue, only fix was to launch apps or games without it being connected to charger, was hoping its been addressed by now and its worrying that NVidia hasnt fixed this yet
Can we max the RAM with 32GB × 2? 😬
Best 17inch laptop comparison?
I am Honesty waiting for 50 series GPU from Nvida for Insane amountly of Cuda core to future proof my Laptop
You would be waiting until late 2025 early 2026, because the 50 series is not coming out this year
Legion 7 pro or the razer blade 16 oled
Got the 2024 Lenovo Legion 7i recently. For me, the display is lacking in brightness, speaker is terrible and keyboard deck feels hot. You feel the most heat around where WiFi card sits. Returned it and got M3 MacBook Pro.
Crisp review 😮
Vivobook 14 review?
I hate that you keep referring to the Pro 7i as “Pro 7” and not 7i. It gets confusing since there actually IS a “Pro 7”. You need to be more clear.
I'd be honest, I just can't handle the touch pad on the left as a right handed person.
So many people have said that. It's weird as It doesn't bother me. But I understand
1 min ago is crazy
why is it crazy
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Great video as always 👍
Microsoft is going to announce new Surface devices in a couple of weeks, mind checking them out please?
We will. The last ones were so bad. We bought them
Legion gang
Imagine shipping a laptop without an option for OLED in 2024. No oled no buy
Wow. You are aware that most OLED laptops in 2024 have a very bad screen door effect right?
How is this a history fix when there is no mention of France's role in Vietnam?
I hear that due to your therapist's recommendations, you are only reviewing, boaring safe laptops that won't raise your blood pressure. However, i need you to leave your safe space and review the I pad pro where a 2 tb and 16 gig of ram with a metal plated keyboad is over 3000 dollars. "What world are we living in". BTW the Dell xps 16 is the best-looking laptop. I guess PTSD from that review made you forget😅
Ha ha, working on something similar
honestly the new legion is a big L, but the look is stunning. People are basically paying for the look rather than the performance of the laptop. A lot of people will never need a 14900hx, it's all for marketing to the people who know nothing about laptops
Then why people buy the razer for😂
There are stil 13th gen options available no big Ls if younhave a brain
Which is what the overwhelmimg majority of consumer base constitutes.
I would love to have it too but I dont want Intel processor and it is 16“ which is a deal breaker at that point.
Visually it is one of the great looking laptops.
A Ryzen and bigger screen would make me consider with a right price point.
1.7k - 1.9k would be my max.
@@eorzoriantr5228but intel one has better performance and actually pretty good battery life considering it's performance
Why not?
Honestly I would still go for G16. I am done with bad laptop speakers.
We are going to re-test the G16 with the new bios btw
@@JustJoshTech oh those are great news. I hope there are some noticeable improvements. Thank you so much for all the work you're putting in.
numpad = pass
Still not loving the retrograde numpad. Yeh yeh yeh, you all use it for MS Excel ... Still, bleah
I have a few Legions. I'll stop buying them the day they take away numpad
@@TheKolian1996 tell me when it happens, I may start consider buying one ;-)
I would recommend something other than the 14th gen, as Intel will make that architecture obsolete in a few months. You can get a Core Ultra or AMD, but preferably give 2024 Intel and AMD an easy pass. You will see Gen 2 Core Ultra next year, along with new GPUs.
If you are not a gamer, wait for the new M4 chips as another alternative. But save your money and be patient. The 14th Gen has awful efficiency, and in 2024, it should be a criminal offence to sell this chip.
I am really curious about the design meetings made in Lenovo. How come they come up with with that much wrong decision? There is no USB connection in backside, also Thinkbook had this bad design choice. If you want to use the device in desktop mode, you have to plug power and HDMI backside, USB to left/right. Why not just placing a thunderbolt to backside with power input so that you just connect them?
Nearly all Lenovo's 16" laptops have numpad which I hate. Just only that is enough for me to not buy Lenovo laptops. I bought Z16 which had unnecessaryly high DPI OLED. Which is power hungry, and which causes scaling problems with external monitors. You have to restart programs to solve. Than they added touch feature to this OLED, which creates dot patterns on screen. If you look at the screen closer than 50cm, you'll see thin lines. Also renders OLED worse than TFT, after 10 years for the first time I've machine that it shifts color with respect to angle you look at.. Why do you ruin an OLED panel with a touch panel that is never used?
Adding page up/down keys around arrow keys etc.. Really? Etc etc.. How come a company designs that much bad product? Fan noise on idle? WHYYYY?
I am using PC laptops but with disgust. I wish I didn't have to use Windows..
You lost me at IPS display, seriously in 2024?
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Ryzen better
Simply stunning until 2 years later when they completely shit the bed. Gaming Laptops still are garbage, way to heavy, always get throttling issues later, even when you replace the thermal pads, EVEN if you use the same ones that Lenovo uses in their Legions (PTM7950 )
Says the person as if there has not been logical advances in the last 10 years. 🤦🏿♂️
We are suffering the consequences of trying to put best of everything in a small chassis. What do you expect? It is simple physics. And still I believe they are getting there.
Let's see if then new Snapdragon can aid in the complaints.
I’ll never buy a Windows laptop again because of Microsoft intrusive ads, update policies and bloatware. If I really wanted Windows, I’d be better off buying a Mac and running windows on a vm
3 MAJOR Flaws:
1) Intel Garbage inside
2) No OLED
3) Off-Center trackpad
Get your sh*t together, Lenovo.
And you, should stop hating
You should really stop hating
We got a hater in the chat haha
I don’t understand why would anyone buy Windows laptop over Macbook M other than gaming 💁
Creator series are overall optimized instead of gaming which only focus is peak and much higher sustained performance
Software compatibility is also important you know. Who gives a damn about speakers or battery life if you can’t even run the softwares you need for your job and get fired💀
@@josephle2381 interesting thought
where the heck are those white laptops , ey ? usa website - none , canadian - zilch.
Did you check our site
I picked up the black version of that 7i with a 4060 and 14900HX on day one and have been using it for two months now, but there was no white available at the time in my country (Japan). I honestly love this computer. It does feel warm when gaming and in performance mode, but considering that I only use an ergonomic keyboard on my desk it's not a big deal.
The battery is better than my old computer, but I can never seem to optimize it enough to reach what other TH-camrs have achieved for battery life.
Still, I'm super happy with this computer, and hole it holds up for five or more years.
Do you make long gaming sessions I'm not currently at my home so I need a computer to work and and game at the same time
@@bryce2fadeway I don't game on the battery, since it would drain the battery very quickly.
You're one of the few reviewers who takes the time to properly assess the surface tempature of the laptops - thank you. It boggles my mind that so many others oveerlook this aspect - what's the point of having a "powerful" laptop if you can't use it due to excessive keyboard heat?
@JustJoshTech 2:37 Do Nvidia Still Limit Power in Gaming ? as I seen from @Jarrod'sTech Videos it seems like from 4050 to 4070 nvidia powerlock laptops for gaming so anything lower than 4080 not actually reaching to the promised power limit unless outside gaming as far as I know is this still a thing or nvidia fixed it ???
Great review, Josh! I'm considering buying the Lenovo Legion 7i with the Intel Core i7-14700HX + RTX 4070, but I've read that Intel 13th/14th gen processors have some issues. Have you encountered any problems so far? I'd like this laptop to last me around 3-4 years. Otherwise, I'm thinking of getting the Legion Slim 5 with the Ryzen 7 8845HS + RTX 4070. Thanks!
Same I’m trying to upgrade my computer/gaming laptop and I have no idea which one to go with.
is it worth it to wait for the AMD version ? or get the intel version ? ( 7i Not the Pro version )
is there gonna be AMD version? if it is, i will wait for that instead
I was hoping, almost praying, that these laptops would come with AMD CPUs or Core Ultras, just so i could get some decent battery life for my next laptop. But here we are, such a shame.