The Targaryens might not have gotten sick like ordinary people, but their high infant death rate and babies born with monstrous deformities was quite a regular occurrence in the book.
@@Ashybe011 Thanks for sharing this information. Prior to you mentioning the Hapsburgs, I had never heard of them. I googled them and I understand exactly what you mean. Great observation. 👍🏼
How to survive in medieval times: - Stop living in your own filth - Take (not really) boiling hot baths that make you pass out after getting out (do not pass out in the water) - If there is war or famine, LEAVE
very late stage gangrene (necrosis) from leprosy (poor bastard had it all the way down to the bone!) but the Targaryens have the will, strength & stoic blood of the dragon, any regular person would've died long before Vicerys did. Those boils, sores & open wounds to the bone probably stunk to high heavens, so lucky for him, his nose damn near fell off his face. Because of this I don't necessarily think of him as a weak King, he was a beast in my eyes. He suffered so long & so very hard, so RiP to him. He will be missed. Those maesters probably leeched him with diseased insects (maggots & leeches) on purpose, by direction of Otto, AKA the worst hand in history. I can't wait to see him burn.
He was a pedophile that raped his cousin to produce Rhaenyra and then brutally disemboweled his cousin who he committed many grave acts of incest with. He also married and raped Alicent numerous times while decomposing. He was one of the most insufferable and repugnant characters in the series. I wish he suffered more.
Visarys was a good and kind hearted man he wasnt bad he tried his best. He simply wasnt the man for the job thats the sad part is there have been plenty of rotten kings but visarys suffers the most in the show despite being one of the best people in the show
From the accounts in the books it sounded like Viserys had Type 2 diabetes. Which makes it difficult to fight off infections/heal wounds & weakens the heart. It can wreak havoc on many vital organs if left untreated/unmanaged & can lead to an early death.
I'm diabetic. If he'd had type 2 to the point he's got bits falling off chances are he'd have fallen into a coma and died long before he melted to death.
It kind of feels like he may have been Diabetic and he had many MRSA infections that never fully healed. I haven't read the books for this series, so I am sure it is something else than what was written. In the show it is not Allicent imprisoning people, it is her father Otto....
@sarnol8973 i had mrsa that went into toxic epodermal necrosis...trust me staph without antibiotics is not even comparable pain nor infection wise to what a true direct line to the heart MRSA.diagnosis will do.
So if Viserys didn't have the blood of the dragon, why does he look so much like a Targaryen and ALL of his children, even dark-haired, dark-eyed Alicent's, inherited his white hair & light eyes? Meanwhile, his daughter with the obviously Targaryen Aemma, has white hair & pale blue eyes but ends up with dark-haired, dark-eyed children (darker than Harwin's & more like Criston's!), so SHE should be rotting away along with all her children from the 'dragon-blooded' Daemon. If you're trying to say that he didn't have enough 'dragon' blood, show us the family tree & where it was lacking. Maybe his parents weren't incestuous or polygamous enough? This explanation makes no sense & contradicts what the writers, including the books' author, are on record as having said. The reason he was rotting was because the iron throne itself, made out of the melted bloody swords of burned-up warriors, was killing him, a sign that it was rejecting him as ruler. He wasn't cruel or perverted enough to sit on it without being injured, & the haunted throne cut him more than once. It was stated somewhere that the throne was designed so that you can't let yourself get comfortable on it. Viserys was too peaceful.
he got tetanus infection by all the cut he got from iron throne lol and he got diabetes so it hardly heals🤣 his built was not like robert baratheon, but he also is a glutton. example episode on a feast for rhaenyra and laenor engagement
It's not that he wasn't cruel or perverse that the Thrown rejected him, it's the fact that he was a weak and pathetic king He avoided conflict and hard decisions at all costs , even when he had to make one
IF you have HBOmax. If you still have cable TV, HBO hasn't been showing any extras. They're trying to force everyone to give up cable & go to streaming services only.
He probably suffered from diabetes type 2. Like you said, he likes feasts, and he probably didn't have a diet and ate his entire life lots of sugar. One of the signs of diabetes untreated is wounds that won't heal. That's why, in modern medicine, we need to keep checking for wounds in diabetic people, and there is a thing called "diabetic foot", you can look it up on google if you want (kinda gross). Everytime Viserys got open wounds (like that small cut in his finger), the wound can't heal and starts to become necrotic. That's why it's important to amputate, cause necrocy can spread and cause more and more tissue to die and fall (that's why the meister amputated his finger, was becoming necrotic and spreading). Also, diabetes can cause blindness. Maybe that's why, in the end, he lost his eye. Diabetes can really be degenerating when untreated, and will rot you little by little. Like with Viserys. Also, about leprosy. Yes, it was a possibilty in the begining, but leprosy is highly contagious, and he was already having symptoms when he had intercourse with Alicent, and she didn't catch any disease. So, leprosy is out of the table.
If I'd been Viserys, I'd have had one of the dragon's breath their fire on that throne to melt it down just a little bit. Just enough to soften the hard edges. That way, no more cuts.
I think Viserys got poisoned by Hightower family first by his Alicent Father and by Alicent her self after sh discovered the true from Loryc Whome controll the rats he also involved into the cospicency againsy Targaryan Family. This is why Alicent father nver wanted Deamn as King. He is alwey behind that involing his daughter Alicent till the end and she didn't even want to redim her self.
theres no need to speculate. the show runners say it was leprosy. and in the books he doesnt have any of that shit. also how do you define "blood of the dragon"? he rode balerion the black dread, the most powerful dragon in history.
A theory made long before the show is that the maesters were purposefully poisoning him under the command of house hightower, since the hightowers and the maesters are VERY connected with each other since the hightower and citadel are right next to each other and both have worked with each other for centuries. The theory also is a bonus to the maester conspiracy of wanting to rid the world of dragons which has evidence of being true in the books as several characters strongly imply that it was house hightower and the citadel who influenced the starks, baratheons, tullys and arryns to form the coalition against the Targaryens during the mad kings rule and that influence of course helped lead into roberts rebellion which saw house Targaryen, essentially annihilated. On top of that, the maesters and hightowers are also heavily connected to the faith of the seven and whaddya know, the faith revolt against the Targaryens with a suspiciously well armed army and kill some dragons in the dragonpit during the dance of dragons. House Hightower is also one of the oldest houses in westeros, originating from the first men snd are heavily connected to the old magic of westeros and even use glass candles to spy. They are also the richest family in westeros and have the largest army. There’s definitely a bigger plot by the Hightowers than just simply wanting to have one of their own on the throne, they might want to bring about the end of the Targaryen dynasty all together. It might not be true in the show but in the books the evidence for these theories is astounding.
I love your voice and accent! What is it, if I may? TV-Viserys (and his DRASTICALLY more severe afflictions, seven hells...) is so different from his book character, and I love it. Even GRRM said that this take was an improvement, and I can wholeheartedly see why. Now he is a far more complicated and emotionally-compelling character than yet another fat, spirited, drunk, and weak king. There were already too many of those. This mature and quieter, onscreen alternative brought something fresh to the table. He truly felt like a troubled father on his way out, with his rascally family about to ruin the fragile stability he maintained. Otherwise, he would have just been unfortunate at worse, and forgettable at best. Thank you, Paddy Considine. This character wouldn't be what he was without you.
@@iAdden the writer and director clearly have no idea what leprosy is. They did say that but leprosy is contagious asf so no way the entire red keep wouldnt be infected if he had it. Otto, Alicent, and several maesters definitely had close enough contact with him to be infected, if it was leprosy.
Theory: the faith still wanted to get rid of the power of the house of the dragon, a conflict continuing ever since Mageor's battle against the faith, the Maesters were poisoning him!
Missed a point that iron throne accept only a worthy king and if a non worthy sits on it harm that person and truly said viserys is a boring and non worthy king
I think you are referring aids If you are then it is impossible. Because aids can be spread tho sexual intercourse. In that way all of his children and alicent would be effected.
Viserys looks like every 80's glam rocker that's still touring.
Haha yes he does.
😂😂😂😂😂 omg!!
lol
Vince Neil 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The Targaryens might not have gotten sick like ordinary people, but their high infant death rate and babies born with monstrous deformities was quite a regular occurrence in the book.
Yea a product of incest
Consanguinity - Aemon's chin reminds me of the Hapsburgs I think the casting was deliberate.
cause of targaryens century of incentious breeding
@@Ashybe011 Thanks for sharing this information. Prior to you mentioning the Hapsburgs, I had never heard of them. I googled them and I understand exactly what you mean. Great observation. 👍🏼
@@leerhode1021 thanks Lee 😊
How to survive in medieval times:
- Stop living in your own filth
- Take (not really) boiling hot baths that make you pass out after getting out (do not pass out in the water)
- If there is war or famine, LEAVE
very late stage gangrene (necrosis) from leprosy (poor bastard had it all the way down to the bone!) but the Targaryens have the will, strength & stoic blood of the dragon, any regular person would've died long before Vicerys did. Those boils, sores & open wounds to the bone probably stunk to high heavens, so lucky for him, his nose damn near fell off his face.
Because of this I don't necessarily think of him as a weak King, he was a beast in my eyes. He suffered so long & so very hard, so RiP to him. He will be missed.
Those maesters probably leeched him with diseased insects (maggots & leeches) on purpose, by direction of Otto, AKA the worst hand in history.
I can't wait to see him burn.
He was a pedophile that raped his cousin to produce Rhaenyra and then brutally disemboweled his cousin who he committed many grave acts of incest with. He also married and raped Alicent numerous times while decomposing. He was one of the most insufferable and repugnant characters in the series. I wish he suffered more.
Visarys was a good and kind hearted man he wasnt bad he tried his best. He simply wasnt the man for the job thats the sad part is there have been plenty of rotten kings but visarys suffers the most in the show despite being one of the best people in the show
He had some kind of Leprosy which is what caused his body and mind to decompose throughout the 1st season, and what caused his death.
necrosis kills you much faster
This deff makes sense. I had thought leprosy and thought this was said in a behind the scenes but looking it up does sound true too
@@DiabloTommaso a slow acting necrosis then. It’s Westeros, many diseases that don’t exist in our world exist there.
@@MythicKit yeah. The Leper King style mask similar to the one worn by Baldwin III in Kingdom of Heaven gives off the impression of Leprosy.
Necrotizing Fascitis
He got radiation poisoning from Alicent's glare
😂😂😂😂😂
From the accounts in the books it sounded like Viserys had Type 2 diabetes. Which makes it difficult to fight off infections/heal wounds & weakens the heart. It can wreak havoc on many vital organs if left untreated/unmanaged & can lead to an early death.
from all the wine and over eating thru feast. im not surprised of diabetes 😅
I'm diabetic. If he'd had type 2 to the point he's got bits falling off chances are he'd have fallen into a coma and died long before he melted to death.
Leprosy
@@ADobbin1he said in the book
It kind of feels like he may have been Diabetic and he had many MRSA infections that never fully healed. I haven't read the books for this series, so I am sure it is something else than what was written. In the show it is not Allicent imprisoning people, it is her father Otto....
MRSA is an antibiotic resistant strain of staph. but it could very well be plain ol staph. its just as nasty in the absence of antibiotics
@sarnol8973 i had mrsa that went into toxic epodermal necrosis...trust me staph without antibiotics is not even comparable pain nor infection wise to what a true direct line to the heart MRSA.diagnosis will do.
So if Viserys didn't have the blood of the dragon, why does he look so much like a Targaryen and ALL of his children, even dark-haired, dark-eyed Alicent's, inherited his white hair & light eyes? Meanwhile, his daughter with the obviously Targaryen Aemma, has white hair & pale blue eyes but ends up with dark-haired, dark-eyed children (darker than Harwin's & more like Criston's!), so SHE should be rotting away along with all her children from the 'dragon-blooded' Daemon. If you're trying to say that he didn't have enough 'dragon' blood, show us the family tree & where it was lacking. Maybe his parents weren't incestuous or polygamous enough?
This explanation makes no sense & contradicts what the writers, including the books' author, are on record as having said. The reason he was rotting was because the iron throne itself, made out of the melted bloody swords of burned-up warriors, was killing him, a sign that it was rejecting him as ruler. He wasn't cruel or perverted enough to sit on it without being injured, & the haunted throne cut him more than once. It was stated somewhere that the throne was designed so that you can't let yourself get comfortable on it. Viserys was too peaceful.
he got tetanus infection by all the cut he got from iron throne lol and he got diabetes so it hardly heals🤣 his built was not like robert baratheon, but he also is a glutton. example episode on a feast for rhaenyra and laenor engagement
Bingo!!!
It's not that he wasn't cruel or perverse that the Thrown rejected him, it's the fact that he was a weak and pathetic king
He avoided conflict and hard decisions at all costs , even when he had to make one
All you needed to do is to watch the behind the episodes after and you would understand. The writer and director said it’s a form of leprosy.
IF you have HBOmax. If you still have cable TV, HBO hasn't been showing any extras. They're trying to force everyone to give up cable & go to streaming services only.
@@mooncove my bad, didn’t know it was like that on “cable”. I’ve never watched GOT on “cable”. Only online.
@@mooncoveI wouldn't mind seeing calble and dish going out of buisness!
He probably suffered from diabetes type 2. Like you said, he likes feasts, and he probably didn't have a diet and ate his entire life lots of sugar. One of the signs of diabetes untreated is wounds that won't heal. That's why, in modern medicine, we need to keep checking for wounds in diabetic people, and there is a thing called "diabetic foot", you can look it up on google if you want (kinda gross). Everytime Viserys got open wounds (like that small cut in his finger), the wound can't heal and starts to become necrotic. That's why it's important to amputate, cause necrocy can spread and cause more and more tissue to die and fall (that's why the meister amputated his finger, was becoming necrotic and spreading). Also, diabetes can cause blindness. Maybe that's why, in the end, he lost his eye. Diabetes can really be degenerating when untreated, and will rot you little by little. Like with Viserys.
Also, about leprosy. Yes, it was a possibilty in the begining, but leprosy is highly contagious, and he was already having symptoms when he had intercourse with Alicent, and she didn't catch any disease. So, leprosy is out of the table.
Leprosy doesn’t spread through sex and also some people may have the bacteria and never develop the disease 95% of people actually
I just love that he was falling apart, so weak, yet he wanted ALL the smoke against Vaemond 😂
All I know is he was out of order for taking it off during dinner 😳😕🤮
Right, they just trying to eat
Out of line😶😶
🤣😭🪦☠️👻
f&ck 'em, Hes King.
Or rather, He _was_ King.
RiP Vicerys.
He was right to take it off, basically he is not hiding anything from the ones he loves
Why doesn't aliscent a regular human catch the leprosy. He's literally all over her body making kids with her...
If I'd been Viserys, I'd have had one of the dragon's breath their fire on that throne to melt it down just a little bit. Just enough to soften the hard edges. That way, no more cuts.
Nah. There’s only one way to win the Game of Thrones and free Westeros. Have a dragon melt that throne to molten metal.
I think Viserys got poisoned by Hightower family first by his Alicent Father and by Alicent her self after sh discovered the true from Loryc Whome controll the rats he also involved into the cospicency againsy Targaryan Family. This is why Alicent father nver wanted Deamn as King. He is alwey behind that involing his daughter Alicent till the end and she didn't even want to redim her self.
Viserys really looks like an Elden Ring boss
I'm guessing he must have picked up some disease that wasn't affecting Balerion after he came back from his jaunt around the planet.
theres no need to speculate. the show runners say it was leprosy. and in the books he doesnt have any of that shit. also how do you define "blood of the dragon"? he rode balerion the black dread, the most powerful dragon in history.
Viserys had the blood of the dragon. He was Balerions last rider
Drogo was poisoned by the witch. She admits it to Dany after she did the spell that lost Dany her baby
Seemed like the patch she used on him was filled with dirt, so makes sense.
A theory made long before the show is that the maesters were purposefully poisoning him under the command of house hightower, since the hightowers and the maesters are VERY connected with each other since the hightower and citadel are right next to each other and both have worked with each other for centuries. The theory also is a bonus to the maester conspiracy of wanting to rid the world of dragons which has evidence of being true in the books as several characters strongly imply that it was house hightower and the citadel who influenced the starks, baratheons, tullys and arryns to form the coalition against the Targaryens during the mad kings rule and that influence of course helped lead into roberts rebellion which saw house Targaryen, essentially annihilated.
On top of that, the maesters and hightowers are also heavily connected to the faith of the seven and whaddya know, the faith revolt against the Targaryens with a suspiciously well armed army and kill some dragons in the dragonpit during the dance of dragons. House Hightower is also one of the oldest houses in westeros, originating from the first men snd are heavily connected to the old magic of westeros and even use glass candles to spy. They are also the richest family in westeros and have the largest army. There’s definitely a bigger plot by the Hightowers than just simply wanting to have one of their own on the throne, they might want to bring about the end of the Targaryen dynasty all together.
It might not be true in the show but in the books the evidence for these theories is astounding.
Leprosy is contagious tho. i m leaning towarsd diabetes
The writer and director said it’s a form of leprosy.
@@iAdden oh well fiction is fiction i guess
Leprosy is contagious, but is not very contagious. But yeah, it's fiction.
@@DiabloTommasoit’s fantasy drama but yeah 😂😂
@@Heeem13 yeh but you can also be accurate
I love your voice and accent! What is it, if I may?
TV-Viserys (and his DRASTICALLY more severe afflictions, seven hells...) is so different from his book character, and I love it. Even GRRM said that this take was an improvement, and I can wholeheartedly see why. Now he is a far more complicated and emotionally-compelling character than yet another fat, spirited, drunk, and weak king. There were already too many of those. This mature and quieter, onscreen alternative brought something fresh to the table. He truly felt like a troubled father on his way out, with his rascally family about to ruin the fragile stability he maintained. Otherwise, he would have just been unfortunate at worse, and forgettable at best.
Thank you, Paddy Considine.
This character wouldn't be what he was without you.
He was being cut by rusty blades from the iron throne. It knows who is worthy and he was not. That's why it kept cutting him.
The Throne is the main antagonist of the series. It has no rhyme or reasoning. It exists to poison and corrupt Westeros.
Why is this lady talking about modern medicine and stupid stuff???
One little cut and Boom wasting away!!
Syphilis or leprosy it looks. I thought they said in the books it was a type of leprosy but I can't remember
in the books its gout and heart failure
The writer and director said it’s a form of leprosy.
@@iAdden the writer and director clearly have no idea what leprosy is. They did say that but leprosy is contagious asf so no way the entire red keep wouldnt be infected if he had it. Otto, Alicent, and several maesters definitely had close enough contact with him to be infected, if it was leprosy.
For me it looks like phase 3 of Syphilis! Which have similar traits with Leprousy!
Theory: the faith still wanted to get rid of the power of the house of the dragon, a conflict continuing ever since Mageor's battle against the faith, the Maesters were poisoning him!
I think big King Bobby B definitely took some life style inspiration from book Viserys.
I wonder if Viserys would've gotten sick if Balerion was still alive?
Missed a point that iron throne accept only a worthy king and if a non worthy sits on it harm that person and truly said viserys is a boring and non worthy king
Wrong. If that were the case, every Targeryen that sat on the throne would’ve decomposed.
I don't remember seeing Joffrey cut by it. And he certainly was less worthy than Viserys.
Fever can still be scary today wtf are you saying
He look like he was using that drug called crocodile. Rots inside out symptom
The targaryens loose a lot of eyes haha
… Thought Dhrago died because he was poisoned.
Looks like a form of diabetes
The writer and director said it’s a form of leprosy.
You are right
The maesters must be responsible.
Late stage Syphilis
Bruh he has a version of leprosy.
If I recall it was leprosy.
What happened to his *FAAAAAESSS?!*
He kept getting cut by the throne and he slow got septic and disease ridden
He was just trying to make his son Ammon feel better
Aemond
Viserys took the Fauci jab
but isn;t leprosy contagious??? if so, y hasn;t anyone else caught it?
Maybe he's the night king
I THINK DAEMON WAS THE NIGHT KING BECAUSE THEY NEVER FOUND HIS BODY......THE NIGHT KING WAS DEFINITELY A TARGARYEN
Shut
@@virgoqueen8950 shut
My man caught covid earrrrrrly
It was definitely the rats.
So you’re going to compare FANTASY to reality? Maybe your reality is a fantasy.
It's not leprosy as he feels every cut
Inbreeding and diabetes.
I don't know 🤷♂️
I've watched Kingdom of heaven and think I know everything like everyone else ...
Diabetes 🥲
Looks like Leprosy
It's leprosy =/
Leprosy
Tetanus?
Nah
Taids
I think you are referring aids
If you are then it is impossible. Because aids can be spread tho sexual intercourse. In that way all of his children and alicent would be effected.
Leprosy