Nice explanation, but don’t forget when tightening that front axle clamp to tighten the two top bolts first. Should also hold that wheel between your legs and give the bars a couple short pulls each way to ensure it’s all lined up before fully clamping down on the pinch bolts.
Yes, when we bought the bike it was bent and cracked where the factory seam comes together. That is why we threw a new set of wheels on the DR and part of why we did a big overhaul on the bike. Can't have a wheel wobbling off going down the trail, haha.
What's your opinion on progressive springs? I considered doing what you're doing but feel like getting completely new modern forks would be the better option for being fully adjustable and maintenance wise. Love watching this stuff though, you guys really deserve a million+ subs
Progressive springs are a great addition to any bike. We see them being more suited to the mild trail rider or those that are more street focused. There is a lot of debate around whether or not straight rate is better vs progressive. It comes down to what you're wanting out of the bikes suspension. Modern forks are awesome and work immensely better at higher speeds than the damper rod system found in the DR650. The key take away here is at higher speeds. We've tested RMZ450 forks and DRZ/sm forks on the DR650 compared to a set of modded stock forks (correct spring rate & DDC's) like you see here in the video, and to be honest, there wasn't a noticeable difference other than high cost to convert your forks over. The DR650 is a big & heavy dual sport. How often will you actually be going fast on single track trails? By all means, if anyone wants to convert their forks over, please do so and have fun. The inverted forks work great, we just can't justify the extra cost for the added performance we may rarely see.
Thank you for the Comment! We love the fork brace. Is it a necessity..? No, but it really stiffens up the front end. I feel turn-in can be made more aggressively along with higher speed riding stability. DRs 4eva!!
So i did this with my bike ddc's and all and when i sit and put weight on the bike the front drops 1-2 inches lower then the rear. Is this because i didnt cycle the air out correctly? Whats the correct method for that? Or is it something else?
Thank you for the comment. You can bleed the forks by pulling the fork springs & DDC's out, then with the forks in the upright position, pull the upper tube out and then collapse it back down. Repeat this step multiple times. If there is air in the system, you will see excessive bubbles as you collapse the fork. Eventually, you will get some gurgling but, there shouldn't be any air bubbles. Next, I would increase your spacer length to increase the preload.
I just got the bike...almost 1000mi in 2wks! really gellin' with it but I took the brace off because it takes away so much wheel travel. I noticed a difference at higher speeds and want it back! Anybody have issues with the brace smashing the fender up???
The fender braces for the DR will contact the fender if you're approaching full stroke of the forks. You may need to look into upgrading your fork internals if you're reaching that far into the stroke. Give us a call if you have further questions. 541-688-9543
Thank you for watching but, it's not a waste of time. This is a practice that serves two-fold. First, we want all riders to utilize this technique in the event there is an air pocket down in the fork that would prevent the proper level of fork oil from being achieved. You can pour the proper amount of fork oil into a measuring device and achieve the same result, but not every rider has means to a measuring device. Second, by cycling the forks you're ensuring the fork is functioning as it should. It's better to catch it at this stage of the repair / upgrade, than to bolt everything back together only to find out down the road that something wasn't assembled properly. Let's not forget that trapped air can get hot under friction and prevent oil from lubricating internal components properly, leading to premature wear of parts.
@@TeamProCycle gosh I think you just repeated me, or misunderstood me, bleeding forks is critical step or you will not have a good functioning fork. Checking oil level before doing that step is meaningless
We're sorry that you feel that way but, for some riders' fork braces have proven beneficial. With that said, not all riders will notice a change in performance for their bike and riding style. We encourage everyone to research the need for parts before purchasing them, and thank you for watching the video.
@@TeamProCycle why are you sorry I feel that way, that’s 52yrs. Riding experience and years of noting others experiences. You have many many products that I use and I appreciate your business, but don’t be sorry about my opinion or experience not matching yours, seems childish
@@stubabyfuora5280 We're sorry that you feel that way because they are a great product. Just because some riders deem them as not useful does not make them a "crap" product, nor does removing the fork brace guarantee improved performance.
@@TeamProCycle Well trust me I could tell you fork braces are not “crap” but I would be lying, they solve nothing but your other products from Cojent do. I stand by that advice to all that are interested.
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Great job on the installation and explanation! The new springs and DDCs make a huge difference. The Cogent suspension system transforms the DR!
Thank you for the kind words! Having the correct spring rate alone makes a huge improvement, then adding DDC's to the mix is just pure magic.
I bought these exact DDCs and it was a game changer.
We're glad that you are enjoying the DDCs in your bike.
Great video, hope to see more like it. Long live the mighty DR!
John! Well said! Cheers!
Thank you and we're glad that you enjoyed the video! We have plenty more videos in the works. Long live the DR!!
@@TeamProCycle Yes, long live the Mighty DR650!!
Man that 790 sounds mean. Keep the DR vids coming 👍
Thanks! Will do!
You synced the audio lyric "Get wild", with iconic Einstein image!
Cogent for the win! Love them on my DR!
We agree! Cogent has really nailed it, with suspension for the DR650.
Good job to show how easy it really is.
Thank you! It really is an easy repair / upgrade to perform and is a fairly straight forward process.
Nice explanation, but don’t forget when tightening that front axle clamp to tighten the two top bolts first. Should also hold that wheel between your legs and give the bars a couple short pulls each way to ensure it’s all lined up before fully clamping down on the pinch bolts.
Nice job, now I need to clean out my garage so I can do this! 😂
Thank you! Haha, you'll be glad you did.
Is the front wheel as bent and as cracked as it looks at 1:30?
Yes, when we bought the bike it was bent and cracked where the factory seam comes together. That is why we threw a new set of wheels on the DR and part of why we did a big overhaul on the bike. Can't have a wheel wobbling off going down the trail, haha.
Thanx DOOD!
🤘🏼😎🤘🏼
You're very welcome!
What's your opinion on progressive springs? I considered doing what you're doing but feel like getting completely new modern forks would be the better option for being fully adjustable and maintenance wise. Love watching this stuff though, you guys really deserve a million+ subs
Progressive springs are a great addition to any bike. We see them being more suited to the mild trail rider or those that are more street focused. There is a lot of debate around whether or not straight rate is better vs progressive. It comes down to what you're wanting out of the bikes suspension.
Modern forks are awesome and work immensely better at higher speeds than the damper rod system found in the DR650. The key take away here is at higher speeds. We've tested RMZ450 forks and DRZ/sm forks on the DR650 compared to a set of modded stock forks (correct spring rate & DDC's) like you see here in the video, and to be honest, there wasn't a noticeable difference other than high cost to convert your forks over.
The DR650 is a big & heavy dual sport. How often will you actually be going fast on single track trails? By all means, if anyone wants to convert their forks over, please do so and have fun. The inverted forks work great, we just can't justify the extra cost for the added performance we may rarely see.
Great video! How do you like the brace? My bag of Procycle stickers could always use an addition. DRs 4eva
Thank you for the Comment! We love the fork brace. Is it a necessity..? No, but it really stiffens up the front end. I feel turn-in can be made more aggressively along with higher speed riding stability. DRs 4eva!!
So i did this with my bike ddc's and all and when i sit and put weight on the bike the front drops 1-2 inches lower then the rear. Is this because i didnt cycle the air out correctly? Whats the correct method for that? Or is it something else?
Thank you for the comment. You can bleed the forks by pulling the fork springs & DDC's out, then with the forks in the upright position, pull the upper tube out and then collapse it back down. Repeat this step multiple times. If there is air in the system, you will see excessive bubbles as you collapse the fork. Eventually, you will get some gurgling but, there shouldn't be any air bubbles. Next, I would increase your spacer length to increase the preload.
I just got the bike...almost 1000mi in 2wks! really gellin' with it but I took the brace off because it takes away so much wheel travel. I noticed a difference at higher speeds and want it back!
Anybody have issues with the brace smashing the fender up???
The fender braces for the DR will contact the fender if you're approaching full stroke of the forks. You may need to look into upgrading your fork internals if you're reaching that far into the stroke. Give us a call if you have further questions. 541-688-9543
0.63 is not stiff?
Not until I gave it a lot more preload. Haha
Bleed fork numerous times before checking oil level, waste of time otherwise
Thank you for watching but, it's not a waste of time. This is a practice that serves two-fold. First, we want all riders to utilize this technique in the event there is an air pocket down in the fork that would prevent the proper level of fork oil from being achieved. You can pour the proper amount of fork oil into a measuring device and achieve the same result, but not every rider has means to a measuring device. Second, by cycling the forks you're ensuring the fork is functioning as it should. It's better to catch it at this stage of the repair / upgrade, than to bolt everything back together only to find out down the road that something wasn't assembled properly. Let's not forget that trapped air can get hot under friction and prevent oil from lubricating internal components properly, leading to premature wear of parts.
@@TeamProCycle gosh I think you just repeated me, or misunderstood me, bleeding forks is critical step or you will not have a good functioning fork. Checking oil level before doing that step is meaningless
@@stubabyfuora5280 My apologies, I miss read what you wrote then.
Money for a frok brace but not front fender LOL
What’s wrong with the front fender it already has on in the video?
Sorry but braces are crap, lose them and you will have improved forks
We're sorry that you feel that way but, for some riders' fork braces have proven beneficial. With that said, not all riders will notice a change in performance for their bike and riding style. We encourage everyone to research the need for parts before purchasing them, and thank you for watching the video.
@@TeamProCycle why are you sorry I feel that way, that’s 52yrs. Riding experience and years of noting others experiences. You have many many products that I use and I appreciate your business, but don’t be sorry about my opinion or experience not matching yours, seems childish
@@stubabyfuora5280 We're sorry that you feel that way because they are a great product. Just because some riders deem them as not useful does not make them a "crap" product, nor does removing the fork brace guarantee improved performance.
@@TeamProCycle Well trust me I could tell you fork braces are not “crap” but I would be lying, they solve nothing but your other products from Cojent do. I stand by that advice to all that are interested.
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